Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Jeffys Corner: Finding Dory Review w/ Andrew Herzog
Episode Date: June 18, 2016Andrew Herzog from " The Bonfire " podcast, joins Jeffy to discuss the latest Disney movie, Finding Dory. Follow Andrew on Twitter: @andrevhertzog & @officialbonfireListen to the Podcast here: https:/.../soundcloud.com/blazeradiobonfireMore on The Bonfire here: http://bonfirethoughts.com/Jeff Fisher is live from 9am to 12pm ET Saturdays Listen for free on The Blaze Radio Network: www.theblaze.com/radio & www.iheart.comFollow Jeffy on Twitter: @JeffyMRA Like Jeffy on Facebook: www.facebook.com/JeffFisherRadioFollow Jeffy on Instagram: @jeffymra Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Big weekend at the box office, Finding Dory.
And yes, we found out that we had the possible lesbian fish scene
where the two women fish were pushing the little baby fish.
We had the transgender rea, stingray.
So it was trans-ray, right, or sting?
Right.
Joining me, Andrew Herzog.
Howdy, howdy, howdy.
Host of Bonfire on the Blaze Radio Networks podcast, blaze.com slash radio.
Welcome, Andrew.
Good to see you.
Thanks for coming along for the ride.
Now, you teased on your Facebook live the other day about going to see Finding Dory.
Yes.
And so, I mean, I'm fascinated.
I would love to go see it, except I would make me feel bad seeing it without my children.
there in Florida. You know what? I'm going to go see it.
That's the spirit. Thank you. I like it. So you went to see it.
I've been dying to talk to you about it and I've let it say, I've saved it for the air.
So big weekend so far, they're claiming, you know, almost 10 million so far, probably more by
this time during Saturday. What's you think? And I don't care about spoilers. This is the Jeff
Fisher show on the Blaze Radio Network. Spoils be damned. You don't want spoilers. Don't listen.
Well, in that case, I, okay, so I, I really liked it.
I thought it was a great sequel, but it doesn't live up to the first.
The first, Finding Nemo was just so great, so original.
It is a classic, you just can't beat it.
It's like Jurassic Park.
You can't do Jurassic World.
It's just not going to top the original.
Although they're good.
I mean, they are good.
All the Jurassic's, I enjoy all the Jurassic's.
So that, you know, I'm in this sequel and I enjoy all the Toy Stories.
Yes.
So I'm with you on not being as good, but enjoy them.
It's like half a step below finding Nemo.
It's just that good.
It's almost on par.
But with that being said, it was, it's very Pixar.
You know, something that's, it's just a stupid cartoon.
But it gets your emotions all riled up and you're watching it and you're having a good time.
Take it easy.
Come on.
This is animation.
Animation.
It's not a cartoon.
Same junk.
Now, Pixar is really good at this.
And, you know, they always have those little animations before the movies.
Yeah, that was great.
And after the little thing.
Yeah, exactly.
This year's, it's like this little.
bird called Piper and you're watching it and you're, it's really funny, actually. It's hysterical and you're
having a good time and there's no talking because they're birds. So you're able to understand,
hey, I know what's going on. I know what that bird is feeling because that's how great the
animators are. It's hysterical. You're sitting there just having a good time. And then the movie starts
and it's an hour 45. I think that's a good. That's a good length. That's a good length. Keep the
kids happy, nice and easy. And the parents happy. You say, hell, the movie's over. Okay, we can go home.
Yeah, let's go. But Dory is.
still the greatest character, I think Pixar has ever made.
Pretty good character.
Ellen DeGeneres is so talented.
She really is.
All the other voice actors are just doing a great job,
making the fish look very human.
I was a little disappointed.
They didn't call me be one of the fish,
but that's okay.
That's another story.
I don't know.
I haven't seen the movie yet.
The blowfish.
Oh, that hurts.
But there is an octopus, and he's funny.
He just is like, leave me alone.
Don't touch me.
I don't want to be touched.
And he's in a petting zoo kind of air.
And it's hysterical.
And then he gets poked and he squirts everywhere.
It's pretty funny.
So what about the,
did we have the trans,
Ray?
Okay, no,
I did not see that anywhere.
I kept an eye out.
No,
I kept an eye out.
There was no sting,
real or whatever the heck it was supposed to be?
No,
there's the,
the sting.
It wasn't supposed to be Sting Ray.
It was supposed to be Sting Rhonda or whatever.
Sting Rhonda,
yeah.
Nope.
It does not ring a bell.
Now,
it has that,
it has that teacher from the first one that's like,
oh, we're going to the edge.
Right, right, right, right.
that dude is in it.
and then you see like, hey, let's watch the stingrays migrate back home,
and you see this massive group of stingrays.
And I'm like, okay.
Other than that, I don't really remember any stingrays.
They're just the normal fish.
There's little crabs, hermit crabs.
There's Dory.
There's her parents.
There's finding Nemo.
I mean, I did not find anything.
What about the lesbian couple with the kid?
Okay, now that one, I was looking very closely to see, okay, I know the scene's coming up.
I know everyone's bitching about it, so I want to see what's going on.
And it happened in half a second.
And I don't think they were necessarily a lesbian couple.
Because all that happened was this lady picked up the toy.
It says, oh, look, let's give it to the child.
Oh, it's not a child.
And then she turned around and grabbed the other girl's arm and turned her around to look away from the baby octopus.
And then the scene was over.
So it was either so incredibly vague that no one's going to get it.
Or Pixar really just wasn't going for that in the first place.
Right.
So you remember in the movie,
frozen where they went to like this lodge and the dude owner is like, hey, there's my family in the, um, whatever.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
The sauna.
And you look inside and you think you see a dude with all these other kids.
And people were like, oh, look, it's a man and his husband.
That, that was pretty vague.
I thought that was a stretch already.
Plus the, the joke of the, first of all, and the joke with that is that really a lot of women, in parentheses, look like men in the mountains like that.
Yeah.
That was the joke, right?
I mean, that was the old hunter living in the mountains with his madwoman.
His bearded wife.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that was a stretch.
This one is far more stretch to watch the movie and say, oh, that was a lesbian couple.
No, I don't.
There was no implication.
I didn't think.
It was really a stretch.
Okay.
So Finding Nemo, it was a long time ago now, I think, 2003.
And they spent under $100 million for this, for Finding Nemo.
On the budget.
It was under $100 million.
budget for Dory was $200 million.
$200 million.
And then they'll make it.
I mean, there's, you know, $200 million for finding Dory is like a drop in the bucket.
No question.
Yeah, that'll happen.
Yeah.
I mean, but they've got to make, you know, worldwide, it'll be a billion dollar enterprise.
How many, and I heard you talking the other day, the Pixar movies, how many are a billion?
Made it over?
Yeah.
I believe only two.
I'm looking at the article right now.
A couple, right?
Yeah, so for Business Insider where I found it, let's see.
Which I found fascinating because I wouldn't think that it would be more.
That would be more than two.
About a billion dollars, a lot of money.
I don't know about, you know, for you, maybe not.
All right.
Toy Story 3 got $1.1 billion adjusted gross.
Oh.
And that was for, yeah, Toy Story 3.
And that's number two.
Number one, finding Nemo got $1.22 billion.
Wow.
And they spent under $100 million.
for that. Adjusted gross. Yeah, it says, yeah, adjusted budget was 122 million, but unadjusted, 94 million.
Okay, so, so yeah. Okay, so the 200 million really is for the voices. Yeah, because they knew,
they knew this was going to be huge. They're right. We have to pay them more. There's no way. Ellen's not
coming in for a million. Right. Oh, no. I mean, Ellen's not, Ellen's not picking up the phone for a million
doing this movie. Definitely not. Yeah. I mean, God bless her for that. I wouldn't touch it either for her.
So you're saying we should go see it. I'm disappointed that we don't have.
the trans ray
though. I was hoping for
the Stig rot.
I have no idea why
but I was. You can keep an eye out for that. You tell me
if you see that because I didn't see it.
Now there was a beluga whale and he was funny.
He was hysterical. You know, they have
that echolocation sonar crap.
It's hysterical because he's like, ooh,
okay, I feel stupid. And he can't do it.
At some point it just works. And then he's like,
now I can see everything and he's
using sonar. It's hysterical. That's pretty funny.
It is pretty funny. Original characters, like,
new whales and then this new fish, there's hermit crabs,
and then Dory finds her parents, which is, you know, that's the climax.
Yeah, she does, surprisingly.
And throughout the whole movie, it's all about finding your family.
You never give up.
And Dory's, I would say, if you really wanted to, you could say that the message of this story is,
even though Dory's handicapped, she can still, you know, get things down.
Handicapped.
Yes, that is a handicap to be that stupid, short-term memory loss.
Everybody's mocking her for her, too, saying, Dory, that's what you do best.
You're stupid.
And she's like, okay, that really hurts.
And then she still goes and finds her parents and does it all.
You'd say, well, there you go.
Good for you, girl.
I don't know if you want to take it that far.
Calling Dory handicapped is a stretch.
I mean, that's part of the fish deal, right?
The short-term memory.
For her.
For no long-term memory.
Yes.
I mean, the other fish remember things, but she doesn't.
It's funny.
It's a good hour and a half of just entertainment, good music, great animation, and just fun.
I love it.
You know, it's an escape.
I love it.
So you recommend it for everyone.
Oh, yeah.
I think adults.
Is it PG-13 or PG?
I think it's rated R.
What?
No, it can't be rated R.
PG.
Maybe G.
I don't know.
Find a jury.
It can't be PG.
It's got to be at least PG, right?
I would think so.
I mean, it's got to be,
I wouldn't be surprised maybe.
There's no language, really.
No, there's not.
So it's got to be just PG.
I'm surprised.
that everyone was making
such a big deal
over all this
over the sex stuff
that's got to be just
because of Ellen
I mean you know
who Dory is right
with her wife
yes
yeah I mean
so we know who Ellen is
that's just PG
and people seeing the trailer
we're just speculating
like oh it looks like it might be
a lesbian couple
then the scene that you saw in the trailer
is what is in the movie
second for second it was that quick
and then it was over.
That seemed, it just was way too quick.
I said, nah, I don't think Pixar is trying to say,
here, there's a lesbian couple,
because we approve of that.
No, I just, I don't know.
And she was dressed very much like a man.
Maybe it was the daughter and a mother.
I don't know, you couldn't really tell.
It was over so quickly and say, okay,
no one's going to understand if you were trying to make a gay reference.
It was that quick.
Okay.
All right, did you see any other movies?
Did you go see another one?
No, I want to see The Conjuring, too, tonight, though.
So, scary movie time.
You know, get a little balance between the kiddie movie
and then go watch a scary movie.
I haven't made the time yet to go see that.
I mean, I don't want to.
I don't have a busy schedule.
I know.
Sleeping in, grocery shopping, going to bed early.
Yeah, well, man.
I don't know how you do it.
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