Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Jeffy's Corner: Talking Fear 2 - 12

Episode Date: September 20, 2016

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This is the Blaze Radio on demand. All right, let's do this, season two, episode 12, talking fear and fear of the Walking Dead. Brad Staggs, Jason Mudrell. I don't know. I don't know. This particular episode kind of set me back a little ways on the show. You missed the moral of the story. I did?

Yeah. What is the moral of the story? I'm not going to tell you yet. He's not going to ruin it. Come on. Well, we can't start without the sounder. I'm sorry, because, you know, three more shows of fear. Really?

And then the real walking dead. But for now. Wait, are we seriously three weeks away? We're three weeks away from the end of fear. Oh, but not the start of the real show. October 23rd is the start of the walking. So four weeks. That's not too bad, actually.

Wow. Huh? We were struggling on this episode. I mean, we were actually looking up the pictures of the different, you know, female co-stars. Well, we have to get some background information. Background information, if you will. I am Glenn technically as chief researcher, so that's what we were doing. It's all research.

Pete Townsend used that excuse, too. But it was actually a very fun experience, I have to say. I think we should begin every episode doing that. I like that. I'll perhaps we'll share it with the listeners someday and let them experience the joy that we have in the pre-show. Yep.

I'll just leave it there. Anyway, Fear of the Walking Dead, season two, episode 12. At the end, by the time I got to the end, I thought, why am I watching this? Yeah, I mean. I don't like these, like,

and Walking Dead does this too, where they do these like set-up episodes where you're like you've had to like they'll tease you with like two really like intense you know like a lot of stuff going on and then there's the filler episode where you're just like okay I see what you're doing there you're setting it up you know I get it but this episode sucks

and even Walking Dead at least has become a little bit better at the suck episodes where they're not really they don't really suck they're just kind of like okay I get it This is how Morgan got here. Okay, great. But we're not talking about walking dead.

We're talking about fear. They have to do that in a lot of series, though, and I can't remember they're called. There's a particular name for that sort of an episode, but it's a budget thing. They're cheaper to produce, and they have to have so many of these cheaper episodes to get the expensive ones.

It does make sense. Is it bottle can't? There's a name for that. I'll think of it. Yeah, but in the Walking Dead, at least in those, you care about the characters, and they have great writing. So even if there's not a lot going on,

like if you're just sitting and bathroom in the middle of Alexandria. It's going to be interesting. Right. All right. So let's start again. Last week I started with the same question. I'll start with this question again. Have we reached any character that you care about yet? I care a little more for Ophelia after this episode. I was... Why? Well, before I didn't know if she... They just left it hanging to where she was just gone. Right. So I was actually on the fence on whether she was going to come back at all this season. but now at least we know that...

She was powering in the corner in some hotel room. It's never... I mean, you just didn't know. Well, now you at least, they are providing depth to her. So she's, from what I took from it was. So it picks up where she's going to the spot where she was proposed to at. And kind of weird how everything happened right there in Rosarito for all these characters, even their past. Which is, that's neither here there.

That whole budget thing when you're shooting. I mean, even you said you'd been there before, Jason. So it's not... Apparently the whole world is. Except us. Okay, touchet, I guess. But now I care for her. So now it looks like she's moving on to go find, see if her husband or see if her fiancee is still alive.

That's all it took for you to care about her? Just to see her get proposed at a restaurant? Well, I cared about her five minutes ago when we were looking at photos. That one site, whatever that was, that made me care about her. I cared a little more in the episode, but even more now as of five minutes ago. We can't kill her. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, he can't kill her. You can't, you can't, you can't have him, get up.

Where's Chris? So you think she's going to find, find, see if hubby is alive, huh? Yeah, from what it looks like is she had this misconception that her parents were the little old, you know, cowrie and poor little old people. She didn't know her dad was a badass. She had no idea. Now she's like, okay, my dad's a badass. My mom was kind of a badass, too. So they kind of, they could take care of themselves.

But I let my fiance go thinking that I had to take care of these two old people. So now I have a feeling she's going to try and move off and try to find him. Was that between the lines? Did she actually say that? No, I'm just reading between the line. No, because she was looking at a map and where to go and try to find. See, I got the impression that maybe she was going to see if Dad was still alive. Oh, I didn't get that at all.

No, no, because she went. I couldn't get where she was going or why she was doing it. The sign said one, it said the left to go to Mexico or the right to go to the United States. Right. So she's going. And that's just what, I mean, she had that little heart to heart with her mom, that flashback where she was like, look. Yeah. plantains.

Yeah, your dad was like, you know, like, you know, we had to survive all this stuff, you know, and we could take care of each other. And to me, they were just saying, okay. They went from Cuba to the United States when they had to take care of each other. No, not Cuba. It's like El Salvador. They're from Central America. From somewhere outside this country, into this country. So she's doing the same.

She's just repeating what her parents did, coming back to the U.S. Right. Well, she thought originally that her family was running away from these mad men in Central America, I think, El Salvador. But now she's like, oh, wait a minute. My dad was the, he was. the crazy guy. And we kind of escaped to get away from that life. That's what she's figuring out. So now she's like

everything, all her reality about our parents is completely shattered. But it looks like she gave up this life with this fiancee because she thought she had to take care of these people. Now she realizes everything she knew was like nothing, you know, was built off of a lie. Now she has to go reconnect or see if she can reconnect with this guy. That's what I took from it.

Okay. I figured he was dead. Okay. He probably is. Yeah, he probably is. I hope she, fine. I hope Daniel's still alive. See, that's just my inside wish that Daniel is still alive and he's going to show back up again? I've heard a rumor that might happen. I hope so. He's the one character

I was really bummed that he's not in the show anymore. If Ruben, is it Blades or Blades or Blades? I never know how to say. If he shows up on another series, he's not coming back. And well, let's be realistic. They can't have Ophelia go all the way back to the United States to find

this dude. It just can't happen. Right. She'll be completely out of the storyline. So you might be right, Jeffie. They might have Daniel intercept her at some point, and they just run into each other, maybe at the border or something. It might happen because she literally, they can't for like, what you were talking about, budgeting reasons, they can't allow her to go back to L.A. Right. Can't. Right.

Okay, so then we had, and then, let's see. My man gets stabbed. Oh, so, you know, what about when it started, back from the family started, that family escaping. Yeah, and then they end up, they got kidnapped by the grocery store people. Yeah. The grocery store gang. Again, I want to point this out. I've been to that grocery store.

Love that group. It's in Rosarito. See? I've been there. It's called Cali Max. It's called what? Callimax. Is it really that?

Oh, you know what? It's not Calimax. That's the commercial. There's too big. This is way too much information in Rosarito. I used to go there like three times a year when I lived in L.A. It's actually a cool city, the town to go to. But the little store, the supermarket thing, is that like just massive?

Yeah, like the outside. The inside is a different scene. I guess they're in a stage, sound stage, whatever, but on the outside, yeah, it looks exactly the same way. It looks all kind of beat up, but on the inside, it's nice.

It looks like a Sam's or something like that on the inside. So you go in the bottles of Oxy, they give you water. Oh, it's Mexico, bro. I have got to go to Mexico. Well, I just thought, okay, the reason the family's escaping is, the pharmacy guy,

he's a bad guy. Yeah. He's got to be. Well, he's just, I don't know if he's, I think he's just a guy that's trying to hang on to power now as it's slipping through its fingers. Because they're trying to pretend that everything's hunky-dory, but they're running out of drugs and they're running out of water. Water is the biggest thing. I think they're literally just,

you know, I think they're dehydrating. Everyone's in there and they're like, screw it, we got to go. It's just a matter of survival now. Correct. You've made up an entire world in your head for them. For the Colonia or whatever? Yeah. I mean, because these are things, I didn't even ponder. Yeah. Well, I mean, that's what's going on, right? I mean, everybody's struggling. They've got their place and they felt pretty secure there, but they're running out of all their goods. That's why they're sending people out to get their trips, and that's why Nick is screwed up when he went to make the trade

and then stole the cookies, so he had to trade for the drugs, which then spent the grocery store gang into, hey, we got to go get this place. Remember in a couple episodes ago, Nick was going to drink that water, and then his now homegirl, his girlfriend, was like, no, no, no, don't drink that. You're going to get sick. Right.

So I think that the majority of the people that are sick in that little pharmacy are sick because of the water they have is contaminated. So that's why they have to send little groups over and pick up the water. So everyone's literally getting, they're forced, they have nothing to drink, what they can drink, they're getting sick off of. I should stop napping because I miss

big chunks of the story when I do that. That's what the podcast is for. That's right. Thank you. That's what we are here for. That's why I'm here listening. And then, of course, I got stabbed from the mother. I don't know. I mean, look, I get being nice,

and we can't have that anymore. Madison's trying to, you know, pull the group up by our bootstrabs. Oh, man. But it looked like such a... She needed to take a long walk off a short patio. Yeah. The scene was very reminiscent to an Alexandria scene from last...

Wait, what? You mean almost like a repeat of Walking Dead? Oh, yeah. Shut up, Jesus. I've seen that happen before. I won't hear of it. But literally, I remember not so long ago, I remember us bitching about it in this podcast saying

There was a filler episode where it showed everyone just walking through the streets of Alexandria and talking to each other, having cookies with each other. Remember that? Life is normal. And it was this huge setup episode. That's what that scene reminded me of. They're water and crops. They're like, you know, getting surfing lessons. Right.

We're back in love. Yeah. I was like, oh gosh, here we know. Maybe that's what they did. Mom's bringing them water down at the beach. Yeah, yeah. You got a second? Ice tea.

Here you go. Maybe they look at outlines of the Walking Dead and go, okay. We could turn this. We could be Rick. Okay, this could be Madison. Oh, I don't doubt it at all. Oh, I don't doubt that either. Yeah, that's easy work for them.

Yeah, they have to be doing that. And it's hard not to, but that's going to be their downfall if they just try and copy it. It's just, I mean, I think generally walking dead viewers are pretty intelligent, it seems like, because there's just a lot going on in these shows. Look at the brain power in this room. Yeah. Right. Thank you.

Thank you. What was that website? She was on? Anyway. I copied the link Just in case We need it for research So Madison is out of her mind

I would like to say that I think I've I think I finally had enough of her This episode pushed her over the top for me Her little Her little It's a pug nose isn't it Temper tantrum

At the grocery store gang Yeah so Stran gets stabbed They have to go to the same grocery store That the cartels running To get the medicine for him I knew exactly she was like, it was just so stupid. They're having a private conversation, a floor above.

And she's like, oh, what are they saying? Oh, what are they saying? You know, girl, why do you care? Shut up. You're in a cartel grocery store. Shut your mouth. It was all too tidy. It was.

It was too tidy. Oh, what are they saying? Oh, what are they saying? Translate, please? Why? It was stupid. None of that made sense right there. But I knew when they were setting that up, like, oh, my God,

she's going to go crazy and do something stupid. Which they've been riding her intelligent, like they'll write her intelligent for two episodes. and then completely stupid again. Why are you dissing women's intuition so badly? She just knew. I mean, you're more in touch with your feminine side than I am, you know, so I guess you understand that better.

But I just don't understand that. And you also knew it had to be a way for her to try to reconnect with Nick because the daughter was talking to Strand about mom not ever noticing her. Yeah. Right? The setup and Strand was like, well, then, Maker. Yeah. You want to bother me about it?

I don't think Nick has ratty hair. I'm not kidding. I don't think he does either. That's when the next shot of him, I looked at him. It's not really ratty hair. It's he's got a. But it was when they found him because he had a Walker goo all over him. But she doesn't know.

Walker Flage. Sorry. I never thought about him. I apologize, Jason. Yes, Walker Flage. Walker Flage. But I never thought of him as having ratty. hair.

Yeah, I didn't know. That's the thing that the drugs, yes. You know, but ratty hair, no. I don't know. I just thought that was weird. Yeah, no, I agree. If they would have said, oh, they said ratty hair, then if I'm her mother, his mother, I'm like,

well, who's that? That's not my son. My son's got a cool, cool ass hair cut. Yeah, exactly. It's not my son. Okay, so then they go back to the hotel, right? They travel all the way back. They go to the drugs for the street.

We haven't seen them get the strand yet. Right. I mean, he's still bleeding, and she's all freaked out that she's got to send a sign from the heavens to Nick that could be out there possibly in the middle of the freaking desert. That's her first impulse coming back. I don't know. Right. Until then it was, oh, hurry, hurry, we got to do this now, now, now, now. Right.

She gets back and what does she do? She fires up the generator that is connected to the ice machine and the sign. Yes. Because those are the two things I'm going to put on a standby generator. Not only the sign, though, right? I mean, it was the main... The big sign. No, but the lights in the hotel came up, too, right?

No, it was the hallways. In that wide shot with Travis. Oh, no, yeah. Remember it was just the red letters, and then he sees it blink out. Oh, no, no, no. There was tons of lights on inside. It's like every other floor that was lights on. I would notice that.

It was like the emergency lights or whatever, yeah. Now, I'm curious. I have a question for you. Do have to quit napping. Now, I have a question for you, because you know about this, Brad. What is a generator usually hooked up to like that? Well, in a resort hotel like that, the air conditioning, I'd want to keep people, the ice machine probably.

The sign is the last thing I would ever hook up. Right. But they obviously can't have all systems attached to that one little bitty generator. No, I don't think it'd be powerful enough to run the air. Well, plus, that one big generator, maybe. Plus, you also knew that even Strand made the passing comment in the room prior pre-stabbing that uh you know we can't run that at night uh you know that we give away our position because i mean that's the whole thing of having generators when you know we joked

around about it when i lived in florida for the hurricanes um you know generators are great but if the neighborhood is out of power and you're the only house with with the with the machine running people are like we're going over there you know what's irritating me about as we're pointing all the stuff out. There's so many tells in the script now. Yes. Because it's almost like everything they say, make note of it. At the end of the scene, the last line at the end of every scene,

you're going to see it again. You're going to see the answer to it. It comes back. Yes. It's so telling. It's so obvious. Yes. I don't know. It's just irritated. All right. So here is the, okay, there's the hotel when she turns on the sign. Everybody listening to the podcast, look. Yeah. Can you hold that up to the microphone so we can see it.

See it there. You can see it really well. it's just the still of the sign and it looks like there might be light bulbs on in each floor but you got to see however when Travis when they look from from Travis's perspective I think the only thing that's on is the sign which again no I disagree all right let's see I may be wrong it'd be the first time but it is possible that I've ever been wrong I remember pretty specifically because I was I was thinking The whole thing lit up. Yeah.

There is Travis. There is the sign in the background. Go ahead and yeah. Yeah. You can see all the lights on. Do you need my glasses? Okay, I see if you're like. Every floor.

You're right. Which makes this even dumber. Right. Wow. Okay, but okay, so that's how the episode ended. So what I'm curious about is that where is Chris at that point? He drops his stuff. Doesn't he drop something in that scene?

And he starts walking towards the hotel. So is this later, is this after next episode? Or are they going to show this and everything that happens with him and Chris is going to be a huge flashback? Probably. Because Chris, see he goes right there. You guys can't see this. We're watching off of Brad's little mini iPad.

Yes, that's what I'm saying is that when we first walked in today prior to talking to you, the listener of talking fear, I mentioned that Travis showed up, but without the kid. Yeah. So that's going to be the flashback episode of one of the next three, right? It's got to be what's happening to Travis and the kid. Is he dead? Is he dead? Oh, I hope so.

He's either dead or he went off with the freakoids, right? Yeah. Yeah, because then he's going to form the band of brothers and come back and attack them. They go Lord of the Flies game. Yeah. It's so ridiculous. The Frat Boy, Lord of the Flies gang. Why was that considered like, oh, these are bad dudes?

They look like they stepped out of a frat party and we're like, Hey, we're bad guys. Come on, let's do some fart jokes and kill some people. No, that was not scary. You know, what's really sad is watching Jason go from so full of hope last week. Remember that? I mean, he was so hopeful that maybe this is, did this. I hate the filler episodes.

I just can't stand them. I don't like it. I wish they would do it. Especially when they suck. Yeah. Because there's just no. I know they were trying to build, you know, they were actually, they were trying to get us, you know, set up some stuff of what's going on. But it's so pretty.

rudimentary, right? I mean, it turns on the big light of the hotel, which is the beacon to not only Travis, but to every other dingleberry in the, in the, in the region, there's no power anywhere. For a smart woman, Madison's not smart. Yeah. There's going to be hundreds of... It's all for Nick. Yeah. Who, come on. I mean... Yeah, you got to side with Alicia on this one. Yes. What? Mom? What are you doing? Hold on. I'm right here. Yeah, she needs to set mom down and say, uh, chill for just a little bit of your mom. Yeah. And why would she think that he would come to them when he made his decision and left? Like literally turned his back on her and left. Well, now because she heard Nick and drugs and she thinks he's back to being the druggie again, right? I mean, that she had to take care of forever. Maybe, yeah. I didn't think of that.

I mean, I don't know. All those years of therapy. It's pretty dang obvious. We left out in the beginning when that family got taken. It was those same cartel guys that run the grocery store. Oh, yeah, the grocery store gang. So you know that now, like, one of us said last week that that's probably going to be in the future is they're going to go after and decimate that colony. So then you're going to be left with Nick probably his girlfriend, which is smoking hot.

Years. And it's really down to. Yes. Talking fear. That one's hot. Talking fear. You know, she isn't that good looking. We got to point out the highlights and there's very little highlights.

But the women in fear of the walking. that are some of the highlights. They're definitely for anything. They definitely are. There's no question about that. But anyway, so we know that after the last

scene, or one of the last scene, the last scene from the colony, was that Nick got spotted by those two guys. So apparently they interrogated the family and they found out what he saw him with binoculars. He didn't need binoculars. Well, no, but he didn't, I don't think he actually saw

them. He just something was out of place. Like he saw the reflection of the binoculars or something. His spidey sense was tending. Yeah. I mean, just something wasn't right. How do you hate Nick? Wow. He's the one I like the most. Nick is saving that city and you've just got a bad, man.

See, this will be interesting. He doesn't have ratty hair. He doesn't have ratty hair. I was defending the guy. This will be interesting, though, because it sets up. I'm just assuming that Nick is going to know who that was, and he's going to run right to the lead. What's the leader's name?

Roberto or whatever it was. Pharmacia guy. He's going to go to him and say, hey, the cartels coming for us. You said they'd never find us because they had that conversation. Remember, again, the last line of every scene. So you knew that was coming to bite him. But now they know where they're at. They're coming for them.

So I guess Nick is probably going to be saying, hey, let's leave here and go somewhere else. Or eventually, we know where they're going. They're going to the Rosaryo Beach Hotel. The city is pretty well blocked. I mean, they've got the walkers. You know, they've got the walker fence, which is keeping the city pretty safe. But they're running out of everything. So, I mean, it's time to let, I've been calling them the grocery store gang,

but I think I'm going to call them G squared from now on. Ooh. They're going to just take it over and be done with it. They want the drugs. They want whatever else they have, and you're going to be with us or we'll kill you. Let's move on. Yeah. Well, the end goal is they all wind up at the Rosarito Beach Hotel, I'm assuming.

Because they've got ice there. Yeah. A really nice sign. They got ice in a beacon light. And the best generator in the world that powers an entire hotel. Yeah. And you know that thing sucks a lot of gas, so I can't run that much longer. Right?

Like, I don't know how it would be running at all. I mean, that's what's... Wouldn't you fill your car up at the gas tank for the generator? It seems to me that would be more valuable to have a car that runs than ice. I don't know about that. I don't know about that, man. You're in Mexico. You want some ice, bro.

But at that point, you're making it with the local water, so what difference does it make? That's kind of a good point. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. See you next week on Talking Fear. Nick doesn't.