Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Jeffy's Corner: Talking Fear 2 - 8

Episode Date: August 22, 2016

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This is the Blaze Radio on demand. All right, here we go. Wow. You know, fear the walking dead is back, which means talking walking dead, talking fear is back with myself, Jeff Fisher. And joining me today, Brad Staggs, because my usual sidekick Jason in Africa, whatever.

People will use. anything not to work with me. Last night, kicked us off with season two, episode eight, entitled Grotesque. Action-packed is all you can say

about that episode. And since we don't have, you know, I don't really don't like the fear, music or anything like that, so we'll just start us off with, you know, real music. Yeah, you hear me, that's right. The whole orchestra. This is the countdown to the real

Walking Dead. It's amazing when you see that orchestra playing right in front of you. Welcome, Brad. Thank you. Welcome to talking walking dead. I never thought I'd be sitting in this chair, honestly. Neither did I. All right, so anyway, fear back on.

The good thing about having it back on for me is that it's counting down to the real walking dead. Yeah. I want, again, I want to like this show. Yeah, it's like the girlfriend that you know is, she's perfect inside and out, and you just want to love her, but she just never says anything smart. Welcome to Fear the Walking Dead.

Oh, man. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what we, what the point last night was, or the point of the episode? The point of the episode was to show the state of the world and to show, you know, the group already splintered. Well, we already know because of Walking Dead, but we don't already know if you take fear by itself, okay?

Right. All right, so we're supposed to take fear by itself since it was supposed to be earlier than walking, right? Okay. All right. So, I mean, that was the original premise. So far, by the end of season one and pretty much throughout season two, they're mirroring the Walking Dead. They've stopped trying to be, it stopped, I don't even know if they ever actually were going to try to be different.

You know my theory. This is just another, this is just another, another Walking Dead. I mean, I don't know why they even are pretending. Have you ever mentioned my theory of why they're... I may have, but it's your theory, so give it your, you know, should come from you. The producers of this, of Walking Dead, in their contract, were required to come up with a second series. Yes. And in doing so, the producers not wanting to, they wanted to do the original, I know, fine, we'll do the second series.

They're blowing it out their nose. they are trying to make it intentionally bad so no one watches it and says look we did it we did your second series it's done we fulfilled that that contract and it just we're paying the price yeah well I mean we're not we're

but we keep watching it yes we do yes we do we keep watching it don't we because we keep waiting for it I mean this is an exact a mirror show of you know early dead with Rick and Atlanta and and seeing people, you know, finally realizing people in cars.

It's just the same thing. There was a... There's something different about the characters. Nick is the closest one. He's very flawed, obviously. He's the most fast... Who would ever thought the heroin addict would be the most fascinating character? Me?

Aside from you. No one. Nobody. He is, though. He's the smartest character on the show. Okay, well, let's talk about that a little bit, shall we? The smartest character, because he seems a little slow on the uptake. That's what her only does, do you.

When you see your girlfriend eating somebody on the floor there, and, you know, that really... All right, so you've got a point. But you think by now, like, all he wants to do is walk among them, but... There's a metaphor in there somewhere. The world is, I mean, he already knows that it's a little bit different, and he still doesn't have any kind of weapon. He lost his goods. He lost his bag.

He lost his drink. That girl with a baseball bat. Beating the crap out of him with a bat. I mean, she's going to beat the crap out of anybody that is sleeping, and then she sneaks up on him and catches you in a dead sleep and starts digging you. Right. Why didn't she hit him in the face? Because he's Nick and he's the star of the show.

Because he wouldn't have had anything for the next 40 minutes. And she was shorter. Right. She didn't have the reach. Okay. I'll buy that. Absolutely. Okay.

That makes the most sense to me. Fine. And then he got dog bit? He did. And then the guys, the three guys, the bad guys. Oh, yeah, prior to the dog bid. But they came after him twice. You just knew that once he ran away from the first time, he was going to run over the mountain,

and they were just going to drive around the mountain somehow. But these were the three dumbest guys in the history of dumb guys. with guns. And again, there was an opportunity for three more interesting characters. One of those, I kept expecting one of them to be fast, no, they were just people wanting to shoot.

Yeah, the guy that freaked out seeing Nick in with the walkers, I thought would at least be a decent character to be some guy in charge. But no, it turns out to be just dumb. And why were they shooting? shooting him in the first place. I mean, why when he found the radio and he, what was there, they're just out linking people off? Is that their thing? Yeah. And I mean, you'd think if

Nick was scared, first of all, he should have just climbed underneath the car and played dead. Yeah, because he was, yeah, he's covered with blood all the time. Or he could have come clean and just put his hands up and sit, you know, although he's in Mexico and he really doesn't speak a lot of Spanish. So he's a little slow on the uptick as I was starting out. conversation with that's true but we did see the three bad guys it could have been good guys drive the piece of rebar through the other old guy who just wanted water he just and what did he get he got rebar in the eyeball well that's what you deserve apparently i mean like did you see the way he was dressed stuck in the if you're look if you're stuck in a road road jam for so long

that's it rebar in the eye yeah i mean you've tell me you haven't felt that way before on many occasions Many, many times. Please end this. Yeah, and so he got it. Congratulations. My favorite line, I think, of the entire episode, was when Nick said, I want to go where the dead aren't looked upon as monsters. And I actually paused it because, wait a minute, what?

I want to go. The dead. Where the dead aren't looked at as monsters. Okay. What are they? they're dead they try to eat you we had walker talk last night too

with Nick I mean obviously it was a little bit of hallucinations going on but we did get Walker talk which I thought was fascinating oh that's right yes where he was where he was hearing them communicate with him were they okay now I heard gibberish

or I heard there were words in there just a few though spring just enough to make you go wow yeah yeah yeah that was And that was obviously from his lack of water. But he didn't have the rebar in the eye. Did not have the rebar in the eye. He didn't have the baseball bat to the head. All he had was a dog bite in the leg.

And where did those dogs come from? Were they just wondering? They were a healthy dog. They were good-looking healthy dogs. Yes, they were. That one wanted to jump on top of that van. It almost made it a couple of times. The one almost made it.

It probably did in real life. Yeah, I would think, yeah. The trainers were out. Those were. Because there was one shot that they broke away from. I thought for sure he had it. Yeah, his back foot. Because his back pause was up on that window ledge.

Those I think. That's so funny because I thought for sure he did too. They probably were the best actors in that whole episode, those two dogs. And I do love Nick, but. That's hilarious. And at the end when the dogs did play dead, they did an amazing. Yes, they did. Yeah, they did doing an amazing job.

But they were healthy looking. They were not scoundrels, you know. No, they've been fed. They were well-fed, well-groomed dogs in the middle of nowhere. In the middle of nowhere, almost to Tijuana, and then all of a sudden they got hooked up with the herd of walkers. Yeah. So.

Nick ended up basically killing those two dogs. He sentenced them to them. I mean, so that was the first time they'd ever seen walkers? Right. Right? And these are all questions. It is early on. I don't want to have to ask these questions.

It's early on. You know, I, there's so much more that we could do with the episode and episodes. On fear, it's driving me and saying. Now, so we've already started with the breakthrough now of single episodes with characters. What about the characters? Now, I'll give you that I kind of like Nick, kind of. Right. Kind of.

Kind of. But there's going to be some characters that they're going to start giving me background on. I don't care. I don't care about the background. This is supposed to be the beginning of the apocalypse. Show me what happened. Show me what's going on. He's already in some barricaded city in Mexico.

Something else has got to wait. There's going to be something weird going on in this little barricaded area. It isn't all lollipops and roses. You don't want to know what is the backstory to. What is Madison's husband's name? Cliff Curtis is the actor. Yeah. Yeah.

know his name. Yeah, what is his name? Travis, that's it. Stupid name, Travis. Yeah. I, can we vote to give him rebar through the eye? Because you're right. I don't want to know his back story. I don't want to know his backstory. He's a teacher, and he, he had an affair with Madison after Madison husband got killed. We know that he got killed. Yeah. Who's in some sort of car wreck.

Which, by the way, if you dig a little deeper, someone did bring out the point that apparently Nick's dad suffered from depression, maybe. And maybe it's quite. questionable whether or not he drove the car intentionally into the accident. That's what they're saying. All right, well, that's fine. All right. So, you know, we'll, whatever. So Nick might be letting that rattle around.

I'm just. Oh, good. And that's what drove him to heroin. So now we've got, but we've got, so we have, we still have to have the group and find out what happened. We're splintered. Have we lost Daniel? Is he gone completely?

I think he is. I didn't see him in any of the previews. But here's one of my favorite characters. He's going to be gone now because he got burned in the fire at the mansion. That's right. I mean, I don't know. I hope not. I love ribbon blades.

I love ribbon blades. Or is it Blithe? Yes. Yeah. He did one of my favorite episodes of The X-Files. And a great actor. He's actually a musician. And he would be such a fascinating character if they would give him material, which leads

me back to my original point, I don't think they're feeding these people. people good material. Huh. For whatever reason. Huh. I know. Right? So we'll see if any of it changes.

There's so much, look, we're going to be doing this podcast because we're building up to Walking Dead. We'll have a special podcast where we kind of talk about, we preview the Walking Dead. So we get a little bit closer and we'll get everybody's opinion on, you know, who's dead, who's alive, who made it through Negan's. Lucille Bat. But until then, we have to put up with

Fear the Walking Dead. And since we have to put up with it, so do you. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week.