Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Jeffy's Corner: Talking Fear 2 - 9

Episode Date: August 29, 2016

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This is the Blaze Radio on demand. Welcome to it. Fear. The Walking Dead. This is Talking Fear on the Blaze Radio Network with Jeff Fisher, Jason Butchrell, and Brad Staggs. And is this season three? Are we into season three or whatever? It only feels like it. To be.

To be. With a commitment for a third season, though. Oh my gosh. We've already committed to a third. Yep. Why, guys? Wow. You want to talk about a time slot hit? I don't know.

It's this one. I don't know. I got some, I don't know. I got some good feelings, actually, guys. Okay, so anyway, we'll get into this, but we can't, you know, I mean, we have to have the open. I'm not playing the fear open. I refuse. The only reason, only reason we're watching fear is to get to this one. The fear open is just that annoying. Oh, yeah, that's right. That's right. Aboriginal.

Yeah. So anyway, welcome to it. Jason, you didn't join us last week. Apparently you were out gallivanting the globe. Yeah. Liberia. Looking for Ebola. Yeah, there's a huge relief effort going on in Liberia right now.

And went out there to go take a look and see what was involved. And I got to tell you what, and this is a perfect segue right now. But there were certain spots that I could have sworn. I was in the middle of a walking dead scene. Wow. straight up. I mean, literally looked like I was in the middle of a zombie apocalypse and multiple spots. I heard you talking about the doctor whose bed was still there, and they'd just burn the mattress and all that, but everything else was still laying there. Oh, yeah, it was an

isolation ward. It was in one of the Ebola treatment units. They basically just, they pulled out all the mattresses, they sprayed it down with some, like, bleached incontaminate, locked the doors, and then took off. Wow. So I was one of the first ones to actually walk back into it. I walked back into it. There were syringe needles all over the ground. There were surgical masks that were still strung out all over the place. I'm serious, guys. Some of these... They just walked away. It literally looked like a scene straight out of an AMC Walking Dead movie or TV show. It's straight up in multiple spots. And you can only imagine what it was a year ago when all this was going down. Right. That's, you really would have felt like you were in the middle. So before we go any farther,

just so the people that are listening know, we're in the same room. And how are you feeling? It's right. Because... I don't know. Body aches, headache, headaches, headaches. Can you breathe the other way, please? I thought some blood was coming out of one of my eyeballs. Maybe not. Maybe I'm just being a hypochondriac. So anyway, we're glad you made it back safely, and I'm really fascinated to hear more about the trip, but that's not what we're here for.

We're here for fear. His trip may be more interesting. I think it probably is. No question. You came along this week, Jason, when you're a little happy, happy, it could be better where things are looking up. things you're looking up. After the first two weeks of

the B side of season two there was a bright spot. I thought the coolest thing about this episode was where the bodies falling over the railing. At the hotel that was cool. That was cool. He was down there making noise playing music and it started freaking them out. Yeah and they just found they hit and they'd get up. That was yeah that was that was kind of a cool thing. I'll give you that. Well okay so real quick. The reason why I remember from last time, last 2A, when we

were like expressing our grievances on fear. The things I hated the most, right? The characters were not interesting. The beginning to the end. Yeah. The characters were not interesting. They weren't focusing on developing each character. It was so scatter-shodded. I didn't know who to follow, and I didn't care to

follow. They are trying a little bit of that now. They're changing that. Now, right off the bat, you guys probably talked about this last week, but like focusing straight on Nick, I thought was cool. It was, that was like, what is it like to have to survive in a zombie plagued, you know, like desert and all that? That was interesting to me. That was, and the gangs that took over, that's what you want to see from a post-apocalyptic show. But yes, however, it seems like

we're quite a ways along where we really would be in real life. Um, you know, I mean, we're, we're months, I mean, months along. the way of not two months. They're two months in, and they've got all this infrastructure? I don't know. I mean, maybe Mexico's that much better than us, but I doubt it. I hadn't even thought about that, but you're right. I mean, all the gangs.

Well, maybe that's the point, though, is that Mexico is a lot like right now living in the land of the Walking Dead, and so they're already set up for the apocalypse. It's an interesting point. They're not as addicted to the cushiony lifestyle, you know what I mean? That's true. And it's very communal. It's a lot more communal society down there. So they would just be willing to eat. That's a very, very good point by the Stagman.

And they have the whole, the worshiping the dead essentially? I mean the dead are not monsters. Yeah, they do. They have really pushed the worshiping the dead. And I did like the offering to the gods of the dead. When you got bit, you got sick, we're throwing you out. Yeah. So it's, yeah.

wife is is Mexican and she I've I've gone through multiple like what is that Dia de los Moritos type things and I think they're pulling a lot from that culture like death and like the whole point is death is a part of life yeah so you know you shouldn't like label one is evil then maybe we maybe we should not have called the the show fear the walking dead then maybe just a thought well not going to fear them then maybe but another good point who are the the Walking Dead in these shows. It's not the zombies. Right, which is true of the original, but this one...

See, now, being as we bring that point up, you would think that this fear would be more centered on the crazy things that the people are doing. Right. Those are the people you have to be scared of. In the beginning, which would what would happen, at least we would assume, right? So maybe they are transitioning. There should have been more freeway. There should have been people in cars, you know, and what they, you know, real drive-by shootings, the whole. whole line you are. What's his face?

Your boy, who was, you said you enjoyed the episode. And there were some parts, good parts of episode one where they, you know, focused on Nick completely. It was man versus nature. I was digging it. But he's in, I mean, I know that Mexico doesn't have as many people in it as the United States, but he's walking down a highway a month and a half after the apocalypse. And there's nobody except well-fed dogs.

Except for the Jeep full of the three guys who could have been really good characters, except they turned out to be douche-bad. Speaking of that, plus, okay, there's more characters we've gotten rid of that could possibly have developed into something. We don't have Daniel anymore. He's gone, right? It just disappeared.

They say he might come back in season three, but they said he would reappear organically. What's that supposed to be? I don't know. Who is he? One of the showrunners. Oh, wow. One of the showrunners said he would probably be back in season three,

but he would appear organically. What the hell does that mean? He's growing out of the dirt? Oh, look, there's Daniel. He's a tree now. No GMOs. I don't know what that means. They just said he probably,

and he could have been a very fascinating character. So maybe he did survive the, you know, we're hoping that he did survive the fire. We didn't see a body. No, we did not. And, you know, hopefully he can, you know, take over. I mean, I was fascinated. I never read his, I was just telling Jason,

and I never read his actual AMC, Fear of the Walking Dead biography, which I'm going to have to do on all the characters now. Character bio? Because, yeah, because they've got, I mean, his character was, did you know that his wife was the daughter of the last guy he killed, according to his bio? No.

His wife was the daughter, oh, yeah, after Juan, the guy he was killing, his wife. Let me say this, okay? Griselda was pretty cool with the fact that Daniel was peeling her dad because her dad was kind of a dick and Daniel was pretty hot, especially covered in blood. After Juan died from blood loss, Daniel and Griselda hooked up and eventually Daniel knocked her up. Figuring that he knocked up the wife was a dangerous thing for a resistance fighter to have, so he gave up torturing with his new wife and moved to East Los Angeles. And it goes on. That's on the AMDB page. Oh.

Apparently, I mean, it could be, you know, if you have editing rights on IMDB, you probably could do that. That's fine. But I don't look down your nose at that. That is tremendous. It is better. You're right. It's better than what they're doing. You aren't lying it is.

The final line was the kicker. That was my favorite part. He gives up torture and moves to East Los Angeles. He gives up one hell for another. So we have, so I'll let you start. You tell us your little happy, little happy, happy horse dance over Fear episode two. I'm just, I guess in summation of that, I'm happy that they're, they've split the group up so now we can develop each character, which means they're listening to us, obviously.

There's listening to this podcast, basically. So they're concentrating on developing the storyline of each character. And they're showing us what it's like to survive in the apocalypse and not like, you know, the Gilligan's Island storyline of last season. and a few people in a boat on a three-hour cruise or whatever. But that could have been so good. Could have been. So good. The Gilligan's Island part.

It would have been fun to at least explore the island a little bit more. Speaking of Gilligan's Island when they landed on it. We said before that they should never have left L.A. Correct. That would have been insanely cool. Just the rival gang warfare, like surviving in a metropolis. That's why we watch the show. Yes.

You know why they left L.A.? LA raised the permits for filming. Are you serious? Yeah. I mean, that's not necessarily why, but L.A. did raise permits for filming in downtown L.A. I don't know if they know it or not, but if they filmed, I don't know, say in, oh, I don't know,

Louisiana and made it look like Los Angeles, we wouldn't know. That killed the show. The moment they decided to take it out of an urban environment, it became a bad version of the Walking Dead. Right. That moment. No, I think it was before then

And I'm just sorry to see the Abigail go The Abigail is I mean The Abigail is lost, go north Who would have thought that someone would steal a boat That was just anchored there So yeah You feed off the shore

A luxury boat It got stolen, what? I know, wow That's crazy Shocker I wonder if that's gonna be old girl I know, it was just the girl that ended up in San Diego in the shipyards that hated us because we cut the rope.

Oh, that's right. She was very interesting. She's the captain of the Abigail now. Yeah, that's probably very well could be. It'd be good to run into her again. She was fascinating. Yeah, yeah. Yes.

What happened to her? Oh, I don't know. She's not in the show. It's unbelievable. But, okay, the Ophelia and what's the other girl's name? Alicia. Alicia. When they're in the hotel.

But what happened to Ophelia? She's disappeared, right? Yeah, we don't know where she's at. When they showed the sliding glass door open, I thought she committed suicide. I thought so, too. But then when, when, Ophelia. Not Ophelia. Alicia.

Alicia. I can't remember the name. Gets out of the shower. And then I'm thinking, oh, oh, I know. I see what's coming here. And nope. I know that. Ophelia saw it coming too.

That's why she left. No, not on this day rate. I'm not doing that. You see how close we were. having a very interesting show. Uh-huh. Right. So close.

Right. It could have been really, really, really good. But no. Oh, well. And then we had, no matter, I know we're in the middle of the apocalypse and our family just broke up and the girls are up, you know, clearing the floors. We're going to sit here and get drunk. And not a rip roaring drunk.

It's a good idea. They were destroyed. Okay. Okay. Let me point out that that area, I've been to that hotel, specifically multiple times when I live in LA. You've been to that hotel? Yeah, it's in Rosarito. It's the Rosarito Beach Hotel. It's beautiful. It's so beautiful. It looks great. It looks dilapidated as hell. Oh my gosh. No, it's beautiful. Oh, it looks beautiful. There's beautiful. There's

beautiful. There's beautiful. This is before the apocalypse. You can get rooms pretty cheap now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, very cheap. But seriously, that is a beautiful hotel. And even the part where they were getting drunk on the inside. That was like the old restaurant. Yeah, yeah. I've eaten in that restaurant multiple times before. And that was the single story. When they saw it when they gave you the engineering layout of it there in the lobby. They showed all the land of all the property.

That was the very beginning of the single-story building in the complex. It looked really cool. Yeah, yeah. I think that model is actually in their lobby as well. I'm sure it is. Yeah, but it's like there's multiple wings, like the wings that the Elisha and Ophelia were in, that's like the brand new tower they just built. It's state of the

art. It's beautiful. But the part they were in was part of the old wing. But I'm surprised they were going to shoot there because it's usually crazy busy all the time. I always am impressed at how they can find and make places look absolutely. Empty them out, I know. Especially places that are actually being

used. Now, you know, the real dead show has pretty much taken over towns and just said, okay, you're dead town now. But even in the first or second episode when Rick was in downtown Atlanta with the horse tank?

That was amazing that they were able to clear out those streets in downtown Atlanta. Well, so much of it's really amazing so much what is green screened and what isn't. Yes. Some of the most iconic shots of the Walking Dead when you see them the shot that's the iconic shot. Right. Like the one, one of my favorites is the one where Rick is crouched down, looking on a hill looking down into the city. And he's got that walkie-talkie, you know, trying to reach what's his face, Morgan. And then you see the shot that was actually the shot was just him, you know, and then there's a green screen. I know. I know.

It is disappointing. I know. TV is just a big lie. The whole thing is just a big lie. I can't take it. Why don't even watch it? So, okay, so then they're caught with the walkers and what's her face is up in the tower and she's busy hopefully getting the emergency exit door closed that's full of walkers. Who would have thought there'd have been walkers behind that door?

I mean, it does seem, I find it. strange how some people, and maybe this would be the case, but we're two months in now, how some people have adapted and are so far along, and yet our people don't even know that we need to, you need to kill these people with something to the skull and noise attracts them and we're just, it doesn't seem like we're, it seems like we're stupid. Yeah, well, I mean, they had to bring us along slowly with the original Walking Dead because they were just telling. I think it's just, I don't, I think they just don't want to insult our intelligence. They've kind of advanced, you know, the learning curve a little bit for this group.

I give them a pass with that. That's not that big of a deal with me. I did, when I saw Nick approach that community with the walls and everything, I actually said that to my wife who was watching with me. I was like, wow, the other group, Rick and the game didn't come anywhere near a community like this. Thank you. Until multiple seasons into it. Right. I was like, wow.

I mean, this is record time. Right. The closest they came was the farm. For sure. Yeah. And then it was... Now it was an abandoned house. That wasn't even a community, really.

Well, it was, you know, the preacher man with the daughters. But it was a working farm with the preacher man. Yeah, yeah, just a house. Right, I understand what you're saying. But remember, Nick is a heroin addict. Nothing much scares him. The Nick character is just so. When we were on 2A last time talking about that first half of the season,

I was like, the moment I start liking him. So from the get-go, as the addict, I wanted him to die instantly. Right. I didn't care if he was about to get killed. I was like, good. You know, I can't care with this guy.

Then they start changing him into like a fearless, badass, you know, that also had some medical knowledge on the side, you know. I was like, oh, okay, I'll see what you're doing here. You know, a little Mad Max, you know, type character. But then they change him and he's like stealing drugs out of that, you know, that island house. Right. He's like, what are you doing with this guy? Now he's like, just a big pansy.

that doesn't want to kill these zombies. Well, no, he actually saved his own, and you thought he was stealing the cookies for himself, but he was stealing the cookies for the little girl. Yeah. Or the Twinkie or whatever it was. And then he used his drug null. To get another cart of water.

So you see, it's always, when you're in the apocalypse, find a heroin addict. They'll get you out of situation. First of all, it was an oxy. That's not heroin. Let's get your drug straight. Leave it to Jeffie. He's a pillop.

Let's be clear about the drug. Second. You're right. You're right. Second, he screwed up the whole thing because he stole cookies for the little girl, which, okay, great. It was nice of him. I mean, you said you thought it was stealing for him. I didn't.

I mean, I saw the, his train of thought was for the little girl. But then when he saw the woman on the floor, I guess the sister of the guy. Right. No, no, the drug knowledge. I'll give you that. But the whole thing, why is he going to steal from the drug, cartel, the grocery store cartel. It just didn't, stupid.

To move the plot along. But she mentioned that, too. She was like, you know, shut up. What was it? What was it? Courage is not, you know, having no fear or whatever. She said something along those lines. Like, you're no good to us if, being brave is one thing, but running to death is another thing.

Right. Something like that. But I don't know. I kind of, but seriously, I don't mind that they do those little quirks because it helps kind of develop out the character. I like that. It breaks up the monotony and boredom. It does break up to monotony.

It's such a U-turn for how they were writing the show before, that now it makes me, now he has that label, so now he's not just a heroin addict that we want to die right now. Now he's a guy that's slowly starting to build, you know, build a background. Now he has a plot line like Daniel does on IMDB that we are already. And then when we also have, you know, mom talking about him a little bit when they were getting drunk and, you know, what's his face called him bulletproof. Don't worry about him.

that kid is bulletproof. And always a slipping through my fingers ever since he was born. I know. Yes, that one. Yeah. Since they were born, they were heading for death. We all are. So I know we're ramping along today, so we'll try to cut it up.

So what are we looking forward to and hoping for, and what do you think we're going to get? Me first. I am very optimistic. I'm maybe I'm the only one person here right now that is but think about what we've seen we've seen this is deviances from the last season and a half yeah we've seen character development we've actually seen walkers and mass you know herds and stuff coming after them which we never saw before but we're starting to see and we're starting to see like these communities and I don't I think I have two thumbs up right now as far as what I'm expecting so I think that obviously this

you know this I don't know what you call them this hipster group and you know down in tj they're obviously all going to die that community's not going to last because they're idiots um i can't wait to see that happen that's going to happen see them all die and uh i'm curious about we'll probably see travis and his kid probably next episode more on the new year's i hope he gets lost and drowns i totally agree i's and that and that kid i'm tired of the i'm glad the kid hasn't been around i was so sick of him those two can go tie themselves to a rock totally agree that's what i'm waiting for yeah Wow, is that what you're hoping for?

That's what I'm hoping. That would maybe justify all of it. My devotion to this otherwise lackluster show, which I keep wanting to like. I do too. And that's why I say it's a time slot hit. I mean, we want to like it so bad. But really, we're just biding time for the real Walking Dead. Yeah.

Yeah. But I think they're making it intentionally worse to see how long we'll all stick with it. Oh, it got better. These past two episodes were better. They feed you, they throw you a little bone every now. Here, we'll make them think it's getting better. And then we'll just, can you believe I'm going to write this line? The head toward death will have Madison say.

They're slipping through my fingers. You're going to have her say, yep, I'm going to have her say that. Go. The guy goes to Africa for a week. He comes back optimistic. The whole thing goes to. We're out. I'm out.