Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Jeffy's Corner: Worst Dad Ever!

Episode Date: October 1, 2016

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You're listening to the Jeff Fisher Show. So, we talk about raising children, and, you know, it's hard raising kids. I know that. I've raised too darn many of them. And there are plenty of times when you, all right, I should use just say me. There are plenty of times when me as a, in quotation, Mark's father, Look, kids, leave me alone. But leave me alone.

Go away. Now, I know I'm probably the only one that does that. Okay, I know, I know. I, you know, look, I love you. See the roof you're living under? You're welcome. See the food in the pantry? You're welcome.

See the cooking utensils that you can cook that food that's in the pantry? You're welcome. But for right now, leave me alone. You know that whole upstairs that I have for you up there with television games and stuff? Go there. Okay? Go there. I know I'm the only one.

I got it. I understand. There are a lot better parents than me. I know. Trust me. But at this year's annual exhibition robo business in San Jose, California, they really decided, according to Savoki robot, that when you make your robot look and sound too much like C-3PO, people expectations are way through the roof. They expect so much more from the robot. So they've kind of, you know, they've kind of dumbed it down.

Like Subokie's has is the hotel bot that brings you room service and, you know, kind of looks like, you know, a kind of cooler R2D2 kind of thing. And I have yet to have a robot deliver meals at a hotel, so I'm looking forward to the first time. But this year, the big hit at the. robo business annual exhibition was the iPal child-sized robot designed to take

according to this story take on distinctly adult responsibilities I don't necessarily agree with that I don't think it does that what it does the three-foot-tall working fingers a touchscreen tablet on his chest it can sing dance play rock paper scissors

I can talk with the children, answer questions, and it can provide surveillance video for the parents. So the parents could be, I don't know, in another room or another state. Oh, I do not do that. That was just a joke. Oh, I have never, never done something like that, ever. It's a robot for children, said the Avatar Mind founder, Jipping Wang. It's mainly for companionship.

It could keep children aged 3 to 8 occupied for a couple of hours, if need be, without adult supervision. It's perfect for the time when children arrive home from school a few hours before their parents get off work. So, I mean, really, we're doing that already with television and the Xbox and the 360s, right? and the wheeze and the iPads and the iPods and the laptops and the desktops and the desktops. We're doing that already, right? Go sit in the corner with your iPad. You're being punished, but leave me alone. Don't your kids want to go outside?

No, we're fine. We're just going to be upstairs here for the next two days. Okay. We're hungry, Dad. Then cook something. I mean, I don't know how difficult. I look, I make no mistake. I know I'm, you know, the worst possible parent.

No question. I struggle with it. I have struggled with it all the time. With all my children, I got it. I am a horrible parent. There is no, I admit that. but this sounds like not a bad thing because we're already doing it.

This is just adding to it. Now, Noel Sharkey, who we should actually try to talk to on this show, Noel Sharkey, Professor of Robotics and Artificial Intelligence at the University of Sheffield, has been raising concerns about robotic nanny since 2008. And I bet you he has,

he's calling iPads and televisions and smart devices, robotic nannies. Noel Sharkey. He quotes, robots are a great educational tool for children. It inspires them to learn about science and engineering. But there are significant dangers in having robots mind our children. They do not have the sensitivity or understanding needed for child care.

Yeah. Because hey robot, want to go play? Okay. Hey, dad, want to go play? Go away. Which is better? The robot or dad? The robot, sure.

What do you want to do? Dad, leave me alone. Which is better. I'm just asking a question. So just asking a question. All right. The overreliance are robots to, look after children will lead to a number of severe attachment disorders that could reap

havoc in our society. And that's what Sharkey has argued. In 2010, Sharkey and other robotics specialist published an ethical appraisal of robotic childcare, and he believed had to close down the field for now. I don't have to read his little ethical appraisal. I don't recall reading that in 2010. When contacted about the IPAL, he responded, This is awful.

Of course that's what he's going to respond. Madeline Duva, an advisor for Avatar Mind, contradicted Wang's claim that the robot could be used to mine children for several hours. Yeah, well, she is saying, Hey, this thing can take care of your kids for a couple hours. Madeline Duva, one of the public relations people, is like, oh, no, it can't. No, it can't.

No, don't leave your kids alone. with this. Don't, don't, don't. We're not responsible. And Wang is like, yeah, leave the kids with them. That's what it's for. Legal department. No, it's not. No, no, do not leave children alone for unsupervised amounts of time. You must always supervise your children. The robotics engineer. Yeah, that's what we made it for. So, you know, it could be with the kids. The parents could just go to work. maybe not even come home for hours.

Legal department. No, no. Eh, eh, that's not true. Do not leave children unsupervised with robot. Do not leave children unsupervised with robot. It cannot replace a babysitter. But it is a social robot. It's not like you're going to abandon your kid.

Yes, she's from legal. When I asked her about the dangers involved with creating a robot that could be used in place of a human caretaker, she said, that's a good question. we don't have an answer to that. A lot of parents handed iPad to kids and keep them quiet. This is more interactive. Yeah. She's not going to answer.

Dova is not going to answer any specific question. We don't have a good answer to that. That's interesting, isn't it? The IPAL already in production in China. It'll be available to consumers by the end of the year. He wants to start selling into the United States by next year. Wang said they found that 80% of the United States, of the children love it.

15% have no reaction. 5% are scared. If 80% love it, the IPAL is going to be a huge, huge. I love the fact that Wang, the robotic engineer, I just go ahead and leave your kids alone

with it. Fine, a couple hours, days, whatever. That's what it's made for. Legal department, Madeline Duva. Ah, no, the robot, no, you should not. leave your children alone without adult supervision. No, I can't replace a babysitter. No, no, that's, as the wank doesn't know what he's talking about.

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