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The actor Raymond Cruz
Now you may have seen him in
The Closer
Television show
He was in over 100 episodes of that show
He was in major crimes
The television show
Over 105 episodes
In that series
He was in
Breaking Bad
I think he was only in
just a few episodes of Breaking Bad
and he was in a few episodes of
Better Call Saul. I mean,
you know who he is. When you see him
he is definitely
oh yeah, that guy. I mean, he was
on Madam Secretary, a couple
episodes of Get Shorty.
I'm trying to look, there was
on seven episodes of Los
Americans. He was in Mayans.
I was only in Mayans for a short period.
My name is Earl for
four or five episodes. A couple episodes
of CSI, crime scene,
investigation, a couple episodes of nip-tuck.
I mean, the guy's been on television for a long, long time.
And, you know, I mean, when you see him, you go, oh, yeah, that guy.
Well, he was arrested because someone called the police claiming that he had assaulted their daughter.
Well, what was the assault?
Well, he blasted her with a garden hose.
This can't be real.
This cannot be real.
So apparently he was washing his car and asked the girl to move out of the way.
When she didn't, she allegedly got sprayed and believed he did it on purpose.
The incident went down outside of his home in Silver Lake area of Los Angeles,
and he was arrested for it.
It's a misdemeanor arrest.
Wow.
So what's strange about this is that they say, you know, this girl.
So you think of a little girl walking by, standing there, getting out of the way.
But the story that I read was that the girl parked her car, and he was saying, hey, I'm washing my car, you know, get out of my way.
And she just stood there.
So apparently, he continued to wash his car.
She got sprayed, believed he did it on purpose, called the police, and he was arrested.
for it. He has been released from police custody on his own recognizance and is due back in court on
October 1st. Are you kidding me? Someone in California called the police because they were sprayed
by a hose with as he was washing his car. Unbelievable. These are the times that we live in.
So Raymond Cruz. I'll tell you what. He is a criminal.
and should be put away for a long time.
He's standing in his own yard, washing his own vehicle,
and he's spraying people with water from his hose.
Unbelievable.
The criminal that Raymond Cruz is.
I can't even describe it.
Welcome.
Welcome to Chewing the Fat.
A new poll from Gallup yesterday, and I love them,
found that 54% of U.S. adults view capitalism positively.
The smallest share since the polling group started asking about the topic 15 years ago.
In 2010, Gallup first asked the question,
just off the top of your head,
would you say you have a positive or negative image of capitalism and socialism?
At the time, 60% of the respondents said they had a positive view of capitalism.
And besides a small dip in 2018, that number remained relatively steady through 2021.
Meanwhile, positive views of socialism have hovered around 39% since 2010.
So we know the latest survey.
We talked about that where the American Dream is getting harder to sell.
There were recent data pointing to type job markets, declining consumer sentiment,
and the growing number of Americans who no longer believe hard.
hard work is a key to getting ahead.
Even now, Americans are still big fans of some parts of capitalism in the most recent poll.
95% of respondents said they supported small business, while 81% supported free enterprise.
That's interesting.
Big business, though, yeah, no.
Only 37% of survey takers rated it favorably.
That's a far cry from 58% in 2012.
Yeah, we don't like the big monster corporate heads.
We don't like them.
Hey, they're evil giants.
So Republicans still overwhelmingly support capitalism, 74% over socialism, 14%.
How could someone support socialism?
Democrats and independents have waned in their support for capitalism in the past four years of the survey.
This year marked the first time that a majority of Democrats rated Socialists,
rated socialism positively, 66%, while just 42% viewed capitalism favorably.
Wow.
That's where we're at.
That's where we're at.
Really incredible.
We like small businesses.
We like free enterprise.
We don't like big business.
And if you're a Republican, capitalism, yeah.
If you're a Democrat, socialism.
Yeah.
Welcome.
to America.
And just so you know, as Americans, your information has been hacked.
There's no question.
We've talked about it at length on this show.
We might as well just face it that your information is out there.
It's somewhere.
Does anyone going to use it for nefarious reasons?
I don't know, but it's definitely out there.
We know that the cyber attack by the group known as Salt Typhoon is China's
most ambitious hacking yet. It went on for over a year. It targeted more than 80 countries and may have
stolen information from nearly every American. Ooh, so nearly every American. So not every American.
Nearly every American. They see it as evidence that China's capabilities rival those of the United States
and its allies. Okay. Assault typhoon attack, as I said, years long, coordinated assault that
infiltrated major telecommunication companies and others. Investigators said in this unusual
joint statement, the range of the attack was far greater than originally understood.
And security officials warned that the stolen data could allow Chinese intelligence services
to exploit global communication networks to track targets, including politicians, spies, and
activists. Hacker sponsored by the Chinese government are targeting networks global.
including but not limited to telecommunications government, transportation, lodging, and military
infrastructure, that's great.
I mean, we know that they've hacked into American power grids and other companies for decades,
stealing sensitive files, intellectual property.
So now we just know that under this assault from this assault from salt typhoon,
nearly all Americans' information was hacked.
Yeah!
Don't worry about it, though.
Don't worry about it's fine.
They don't need the information about you.
It's somebody else they're looking for.
I mean, we just had the story of the Chinese hackers
pretending to be a member of Congress
as a way to influence the trade negotiations
between the U.S. and Beijing.
Hackers allegedly created a fake digital profile
and sent fraudulent emails impersonating the lawmaker.
Fake emails were sent to key players in the trade negotiations,
including U.S. officials, business leaders, and trade policy experts.
U.S. intelligence agencies have long warned
that state-backed hackers from China, Russia, and other countries
continue to target the U.S. public and private entities.
Uh, yeah.
And according to this,
they're still investigating whether any data was stolen during this operation.
they didn't need any data from this operation because Salt Typhoon got all the data from the last one.
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So congratulations, I guess,
are in order to authors
who just won the largest
copyright payout ever.
Anthropic agreed to shell out
$1.5 billion to settle a massive lawsuit after getting caught downloading pirated books to train
its AI models. The Amazon backed company scraped millions of titles from sketchy online libraries
like Library Genesis instead of, you know, buying them. So the settlement, the largest in U.S.
copyright history, will pay out 500,000 authors roughly $3,000 per book.
The ruling draws a clear line.
AI companies can train on purchase content,
but pirating creative work is still pirating,
even if a robot's doing the reading.
Authors can opt into the settlement or decline
and pursue their own damages in court.
Wow.
So you can probably sign away your life
and take the $3,000 per book,
or you can say I'm going to sue them myself.
And then you're going to have to prove that Anthropic
and the Amazon back company
actually used information from your book.
Good luck.
I hope it works out for you.
Or you can just take the three grand.
That seems like money well spent by Anthropic, doesn't it?
I feel like if I'm anthropic,
I settle for the $1.5 billion
and that's money well spent
on training my AI models.
But, you know, what do I know?
And as long as we're congratulating people,
I might as well congratulate Howard Stern.
He is not going away from Sirius XM.
Oh, thankful.
Thankful for that, man.
You wouldn't want to lose Howard Stern on Sirius XM.
Would you?
No, of course not.
So he just did a bit with Bravo's Andy Cohen.
Howard was supposed to be leaving.
Andy was taking his place in this bit,
saying that the morning show was now his.
And they did that for about a 10-minute bit.
And, you know, some, I don't know,
publications even wrote stories.
about it and then Stern took over the mic and I'm not leaving I've been thinking about
retiring but I can't now yeah okay so his five-year deal with serious XM the 500 million
dollar deal expires at the end of this year so the 71 year old I mean Stern was the man
for a long time said that they are working out a new deal and still the early morning you know I
I mean, certainly the other mornings are going to be with Howard Stern.
Yay!
So, I mean, he's been with Sirius since 2004, and that would become Sirius XM.
He brought a name brand, a big audience, and now Stern is working less, and Sirius XM is home
to half of the top 20 podcasts in the U.S.
So the company doesn't disclose how much they bring in, but according to a New York
Times report that in 2024,
Series XM made $606 million in revenue outside subscriptions,
which was up from $475 million in 2022,
with I'm sure podcast ads compromising most of that.
All right.
So they're saying that their stock shares tumbled,
though nearly 60% last year while the revenue fell by 3%.
Okay.
Subscribers are down from 35%.
million in 2019 to 33 million this year.
They have 33 million.
I'd like to know.
I bet you they're not all paying.
33 million subscribers to Sirius.
And there's no way they're all paying that.
Maybe they're.
You know, they estimated in 2020 that if Stern left,
15% of his audience would go with him,
which would be a potential loss of 2.7 million listeners.
Boy, I don't think that's true.
I don't think it's true.
But I'm sure Howard thinks it's true,
and he's going to make that case.
but I don't believe that to be true.
But anyway, rest your, dry your eyes and rest your feet,
put your arms up and put your feet up and relax and sit back
because Howard's not going anywhere, okay?
They're just working on a new deal.
So, whew, that is good news, huh?
And since we're talking about media empires,
you know, like the stern media empire,
or Sirius XM for that matter,
the real-life succession between the Murdoch,
at Fox News and of all the other, you know, the media empire that is Rupert Murdoch,
they have, they've worked it out.
The deal is done.
They have reached a deal to end their legal battle over control of the companies owned by
Rupert Murdoch.
Now, Rupert always wanted Lachlan.
And the brothers and sisters were like, no, we want to.
It's on us.
We want to.
We want to.
And they were all fighting over that.
And they're fighting over the money.
So Lachlan wins.
he is going to be the helm of the media empire
that includes Fox News and Wall Street Journal
among its holdings
and the three oldest siblings
who are reported to be more liberal
than Lachlan and Rupert
which is probably true
I don't know that I would call Lachlan and Rupert conservative
but you know sure
if you want to do that you go right ahead
but they made a deal with this trust fund
that they were fighting over
from Rupert.
They're going to get paid $1.1 billion each for their shares when that family trust that gave
the four eldest Murdoch siblings equal stakes is dissolved.
So that one's going away.
Then they're going to build a new one.
You guys can't go anywhere without a trust.
I'm sorry, no, that just doesn't work.
So Lachlan's going to be in charge.
I don't know if that means that we're pushing Rupert over the cliff now
or if Rupert is just taking an advisory role.
It's still his empire and you just live in it.
And Lachlan will be in charge.
And the other Murdox can do their own thing
and continue to live the life that they have become accustomed to live
with the billion and $1 for each share from the trust
and then get billed another trust because that's what $4 billion?
And that's not even close to Rupert's worth.
What is Rupert worth these days?
Yeah, according to this, Rupert is worth $24.2 billion.
So $4 billion, that's nothing.
That's why we need another trust fund.
Okay.
All right, let's go to the break room.
I need something cold to drink and a trust fund desperately.
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So we've wrapped up the first weekend of football,
first weekend of NFL football started on Thursday, Friday,
and then Sunday and Monday.
And we're right back at it again Thursday.
But I saw where the Thursday night game,
No, it was the Friday night game in Brazil.
YouTube exclusive Los Angeles Chargers on the Kansas City Chiefs.
They claim that it drew 17.3 million viewers.
That's pretty good.
That's pretty darn good.
But then I see where the NFL is nerding to complain,
or has been complaining for a little while anyway,
about the numbers that they're getting,
viewership numbers coming from Nielsen.
So the league claims that the 80-year-old
ratings giant is undercounting audiences by tens of millions.
And it's a critical moment.
More people are streaming NFL games than ever before on platforms like Amazon Prime,
Netflix, and YouTube.
And since streamers are protective of their data, the NFL needs an independent firm to verify
viewership.
But Nielsen has struggled to adapt to today's fragmented media landscape.
I thought they were keeping track of that, though.
I mean, we see the charts and the numbers of that monthly on the streaming numbers.
so but the NFL is saying no they're not doing it right and they want more accurate numbers for ad rates and future deals yeah no kidding
so Nielsen Nielsen rolled out this new big data plus panel mythology last week in response but the NFL says that's not good enough and they have a rival experimenting company called video amp that is supposed to keep track of these numbers but we see those chart
numbers from Nielsen from what they call the gauge and that's Nielsen's total TV and streaming
snapshot that they have and we see those charts monthly at least at least once a month from
them so I guess that's not good enough and they're doing the calculations wrong okay sure
and if it helps out the other streaming platforms great that's but I don't think the NFL cares
about the other
streaming platforms.
Although I do believe they do care
about the streaming platforms
if it's going to assist
in making everybody
more money because of the ad rates.
Yeah, that's what they care about.
Oh, and I saw where AMC
has finally said,
well, we'll try something.
Let's try something.
Let's call it the slash pass.
There's a bunch of horror movies coming out.
And you know what?
We should lean into that a little bit.
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we'll let people buy tickets
under the AMC slash pass umbrella.
It's a limited time, though.
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Get it?
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I got it.
I got it.
So slash pass provides moviegoers with six admissions
to use on participating horror films
at AMC theater locations nationwide.
That's 1111.
a ticket. I feel like you could be able to get a ticket
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And don't even get me started going down the numbers roads.
6-6-66-6-11, yeah.
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Who died today?
Who died today?
Let's begin with Ron John Surf Shop's legendary founder Ron Demena passes away at the age of 88.
Ron Demena, one of the pioneers of surfing at the Jersey Shore and founder of Ron John Surf Shop, passed away in Florida.
He was 88 years of age.
He was described as a free spirit, duh, founded the surfing business in 1959 and then opened
the first Ron John Surf Shop
at Ship Bottom on Long Beach Island in
1961. The original store
small whitewashed cinder block
building and over the next 60
years the surf shop
expanded into a worldwide phenomenon
that currently has retail stores along the east coast
from the Jersey Shore to Key West Florida.
Yeah, I mean, credible.
So he was known as a free spirit
and his love for the beach and the sport of surfing
endured throughout his life.
said Michelle Goodwin, president of Ron John's surf shop.
He lived life on his own terms and created a retail empire that remains one of the most
successful beach shopping destinations in the country.
At the time, there was a group of like 20 surfers that all hung out, and they surfed the island,
and he said, surfing, that's going to go over at the shore.
Yeah, duh.
And so he was a veteran fresh out of the Marine Corps, and he started selling surfboards
out of the trunk of his car.
And there you go.
Ron John is now a superstar place.
And that's where you get your surf stuff.
And Ron John's surf shop founder and head surfer dude,
Ron Domenna, dead at the age of 88.
Then we have former metal drummer, Alan Blickle,
from the original lineup of the metal band Baroness,
who can't forget them,
has died at the age of 42.
The news was announced by Baroness frontman John Basley
in a statement he said,
hey, breaks my heart to share the news
that my dear friend, creative partner,
and former bandmate passed away a few days ago.
I'm still in shock that he's gone.
We ask for understanding as his family and his band
process his passing and grieve his loss.
Alan, I love you and miss you.
I treasure every moment we shared.
So does that mean that Alan,
doesn't say why the cause of death did Alan overdose did Alan commit suicide did
Alan you know was he murdered by someone I think if he was murdered they'd give
you the cause of death right so it had to have been either an overdose or a suicide
yeah sad and you know I mean just call 988 it's the suicide and help lifeline
And look, whenever you think, I've talked to you about this before, whenever you think that life, this world would be better without you in it, that's not true.
Okay, that's your bad, sad voice speaking to you.
Don't listen to it.
Call 988 and see if they can help you out because they, you know, life on this planet is better with you on it, clearly.
So rest in peace to Alan Blickle dead at the age of.
of 42.
Then we find out that Kristen Cabot, remember her?
She is the head people person at Astronomer.
Yeah.
She was the one that's having an affair.
Right, you remember her.
I got called out when the CEO was giving her a nice big hug there on the big screen.
There at the Cold Play, at the Jumbotron, at the Coldplay Cont.
Yeah.
Well, she is now filed for divorce.
Huh.
weird that that took that long apparently they were not really a couple anymore anyway and uh when
the husband of christin cabot was confronted about it he was like yeah that's her life and uh she
can do you know she can do what she wants oh okay so they've been apparently that marriage has been
deteriorating for quite some time well yeah and you know she's having an affair with the CEO duh
so he apparently told someone, yeah, that's her life.
I don't have nothing to do with that.
Okay.
All right.
And so then we find out that Andrew's ex-wife, the CEO, Julia,
said that she was just out for the money,
and that he, Andrew,
wasn't husband material.
Oh, okay.
And saying that Kristen wasn't a wife material either.
So they were just in it to screw around
and take care of business.
Yeah, that's what it was all about, okay?
The CEO and the head people person,
they're an astronomer, just taking care of a little business.
So, you know, now it's official that she has filed for divorce
from her husband.
Boy, that is not a surprise.
You know what is a surprise, though?
Holy cow.
So if you're listening live, today is Tuesday, the 9th of September 2025, which makes Thursday,
September 11th, September 11th, the anniversary of the September 11th attacks 24 years ago.
24 years ago.
Let me say that one more time.
24 years ago.
That is incredible to me.
And wow.
I mean, there's people,
plenty of people, a lot of people.
You can quote me on this.
There's a whole bunch of people that are alive,
that were not alive,
when the September 11 attacks happened
on the World Trade Center in New York City.
Yeah, you can quote me on that.
Holy cow, it's been 24 years since September 11th.
I don't want to get into the whole.
I mean, there's so much.
that's happened in those 24 years,
I would venture to say it,
and I'm not even going to look it up
because I don't want to know the numbers right now,
but the number of people believing
that it was an inside job have probably doubled.
And so you're probably at what, 20%, 25%
of the people believe that 9-11 was an inside job
and not the work of terrorists.
I mean, it's just incredible when we've learned so much.
There's so much has happened on the planet since September 11th, 2001.
Wow.
Just a reminder, though, that Thursday is the anniversary of September 11th
and, you know, celebrate the way you normally celebrate.
My sister-in-law, her birthday is or was September 11th.
She doesn't admit that anymore.
She moves, well, first of all, I think she stopped admitting to birthdays.
I understand that process.
but she doesn't celebrate it on September 11th any longer.
She hasn't done that since September 11th.
And so if your birthday is on September 11th,
do you still celebrate it?
I feel like that day ruined anyone's birthday
who was born on September 11th.
You changed your day or you don't celebrate your birthday
the way you used to celebrate it.
I bet so that's true for a lot of people.
Yeah.
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Okay, so the comedian Kate McKinnon, she, you know, part of Saturday Night Live,
she's an alumnus from Saturday Night Live and she's been in movies and, you know, Kate McKinnon.
If you see her, you know who she is.
Oh yeah, that girl or that chick or that babe.
Either way.
She's 41 now.
And she just admitted that she suffers from a rare condition called Geographic Tongue,
which is characterized by smooth red patches on the tongue that resemble a map.
That could not be real.
I'm sorry.
No,
I don't believe it.
So she claimed it's not life-threatening.
And she admitted that the condition is gross.
And she's now opening up about it since she found out that she had it.
She said she took a...
a photo of her tongue and send it to an actor friend, and we both have the same medical condition.
It's called Geographic Tongue. So now it's spreading. Uh, okay. Your tongue sheds in patches
and looks like an Atlas, hence the name Geographic Tongue. McKinnon hasn't let her condition
get in the way of having a good time. She and her friend brag about their tongue's appearance.
we brag about how geographic we are on any given day.
I don't believe that that's true.
I don't think that's a real thing.
According to the Mayo Clinic,
geographic tongue is an inflammatory but harmless condition
affecting the surface of the tongue,
which look like a map.
Okay, so the tongue is usually covered
with tiny pinkish white bumps called papilline.
Well, I guess it's papillai.
P-A-P-I-L-L-L-L.
A.E.
Papilly.
Yeah, that's what I said.
Papilly.
It's called Papilly.
It's pinkish white bumps called
Papilly.
Thank you.
Good to have you back.
The condition only affects
approximately 3% of people worldwide,
although the Cleveland Clinic notes
the number may be higher in reality,
as many people don't seek medical help.
Yeah, they do.
If you have that,
you talk to your doctor about it.
I'm sorry, if this is a real thing.
All right, so if we're admitting
that this is a real thing.
Geographic tongue is a real thing.
Then you're telling your doctor about it
because you have patches on the surface of your tongue
and they're smooth and red.
They have some kind of raised borders
and it does not look like it should.
According to this, it's not related to infection or cancer.
But you think it does.
You talk to your doctor.
about it. I'm sorry, the numbers have got to be right. It can't be more because people do talk to
their medical professional about it. So it's documented, okay? Geographic tongue sometimes can cause
tongue pain, oh, and make you more sensitive to certain foods such as spices, salt, and even
sweets. So apparently the condition will go away on its own, although it can continue for days,
months or years with instances of reoccurrences.
Oh.
So it never really does go away.
Once you have whatever thing gives you geographic tongue, you have it.
I still question whether this is a real story or not.
But for now, we'll go for it.
We'll say, okay, it's real.
and I don't know that I wish that on anyone,
but thanks to Kate McAnon for sharing,
for letting people know that they aren't alone
and their struggle with geographic tongue.
All right, let's get out of here with the joke of the day.
I've had just about enough today of myself,
so it's time to move on.
Okay, thank you for listening to During the Fat today.
Don't forget there's Talking Walking Dead to listen to as well,
and there's yesterday's show from this week.
So you've got some listening to do.
So let's get out of here.
I'll leave you with the joke of the day.
Sent to Chewing the Fat at theblaze.com from Scott.
And he said he didn't write them,
but they're old and so everything old is new again.
Is it, though?
Is it?
Okay, well, we'll go with it.
Do you know what they did before they invented crowbars?
No.
I don't know what they did before.
they invented crow bars.
Crows had to
drink at home.
See, because what he was,
no, you got it.
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