Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Put Some Ice On It… | 5/11/23

Episode Date: May 11, 2023

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That's according to Wendy's chief executive, Todd Pinniger. He says, a chat pot is so good. You won't know you're talking to anybody but an employee. Oh. So apparently Wendy's has been working with Google to fine tune its large language model to cope with a vast array of ways in which customers order food at the drive-thru. Customizations require, you know, unique terms, phrases, acronyms. That way any combination of food items can be handled. So common terms, you know, biggie bags, someone.

asking for a JBC what if you change your order mid-order so everything has to get wiped out so I hope that I just want my order right I just want my order right and according to this

it's going to promote a daily specials and attempt to upsell customers to increase would you like to upsize that no thank you chat box so it's going to start in Columbus, Ohio, starting in this summer. Now, they haven't said where it's going to specifically be at.

Just said that there's going to be a new, you know, at Wendy's Drive-Thru. So they may not say which exact store or stores, plural, it's going to happen at, because they don't want people to know. They just want people to be happy with their orders. And I am. I am as long as you get my order right. and you always double-check the drive-through order anyway. Those times that you don't are the times that you get screwed almost every time.

You can count on it. And remember, I mean, years ago in the movie, the classic movie, Lethal Weapon 2, with Joe Pessy, as Leo gets, saying, you don't go through the drive-thru. His point was, don't go through the drive-thru at all, because they F you at the drive-thru. You know why? Okay, okay, I'm going to tell you. Now, we all are fans of the drive-thru.

That's why there's such a thing as the drive-thru. But you do need to double-check. They do a pretty good job these days of repeating back to your order. That doesn't necessarily mean that's what's in the bags they're giving you. But they do repeat it back to you. So we'll see if the Wendy's drive-thru chatbot works. But as long as they can take my order, I'm fine. If it's like the pharmacy voice commands on my phone,

I hope that Wendy's has been working with Google to make that a little bit better than the ones I have to deal with from Walgreens when I call and have to go through their computer service with their voice messaging with the computer. It does a pretty good job, but it doesn't. It's not like talking. to a human. So I hope that chatbot makes it a little bit better than that. Again, just get my order

right. Welcome. Welcome to chewing the fat. Earlier this week, I talked about the experimental Chinese spacecraft that returned to Earth that had stayed in orbit for 276 days. Now, that was reported from the China state media. So, you know, you take that. that with whatever you want to take that with. But it was a landmark mission, according to them, to test the country's reusable space technologies. It's an uncrewed spacecraft, and it launched from China, and it returned to the launch center in northwest China.

And according to state media, they didn't give out any details on the technologies that were tested, how high it flew, where it orange, orbits, you know, that sort of thing. However, you know, it's kind of similar to our X37B autonomous spaceplane that we had up there for, I don't know, over 900 days on the last mission. We've sent that up there multiple times, half a dozen times, and the last time was up for over 900 days. So, you know, they're matching us there.

Then we see a report from a private services. I'm sorry, a private space services company, Leo Labs. And its data shows that the Chinese reusable space vehicle believed to be a miniature space plane docked with or otherwise captured a separate object on multiple occasions during the recent 276-day long stint in orbit. It's a highly maneuverable space vehicle. and with this kind of capability, it could be used to surveil, disrupt, outright attack an opponent's space-based assets. So space wards are coming.

Now, the state-run China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation, or CASC, CASC, announced the spaced vehicle had landed and they didn't provide any of the details, yada, yada, yeah. But since its launch, This company observed multiple large maneuvers raising the object's altitude, repeated deployments, formation flying, docking with a sub-satellite, which is, according to NORAD, ID-4218. Oh, okay. We've determined that this test spacecraft two was propulsive or has propulsive capability and engaged in proximity operations with,

object j including what appeared to be at least two and possibly three capture docking operations i know that norad assigns identification numbers and they have identification numbers for you know all kinds of things that are going into space that's what they're used for but i remember back in i don't know March, I think, when, what's his face? You know, what's his face? The Chief of Space Operations, General Chance Saltzman, testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee in, I said March. It was in April. All right.

Sorry. All right. I'm off a month. If they could blind us, if they can interfere with those capabilities or, God forbid, destroy them completely. they know that they will just diminish our advantages. I can see interfering, I can see blinding, I can see some of those gray area kinds of attacks on our capabilities to try and put us behind the eight ball.

Pretty incredible. He also said that right now, Space Force is dealing with what he calls reversible attacks on U.S. government satellites, meaning that the attacks don't permanently damage the satellites. And he deals with that every day. Wow. Both China and Russia are regularly attacking U.S. satellites with non-kinetic means, lasers,

lasers, radio frequency jammers, cyber attacks. Wow. So this particular article wants you to go and read something called The War Zone, which has been highlighting for years now how space is very likely to be. a battlefield. Oh, thank you. I wouldn't have seen that coming. I needed your magazine or your website to tell me that.

Hello, we've seen that coming, or at least we've talked about it here on chewing the fat. That's definitely coming. So, anyway, and plus what needs to happen? And what brings me to all of this is because we need somebody to take care of space trash. We need to have the mafia. take over the picking up of space trash because we've got too many too much stuff floating around up there that's not doing anything so somebody needs to send up a couple of garbage trucks and pick up

that trash but space wars are coming and it's not going to be pretty and we need to be on top of it and thankfully we do actually have uh you know a space force that is on top of it and chance assaultsman the chief of space operations, General Chan Sultzman, seems like he is on top of it, which makes me feel better about it. I know, I don't start with me about the military and all their wokeism.

It's still America, and I still believe in our military. I don't necessarily believe in all the top brass, but I definitely believe in our military overall. Speaking of space, I see where the James Webb space, Telescope has revealed a Fomelot's

disc in unprecedented detail. I mean, it looks awesome. It's beautiful. James Webb Telescope has snapped, I mean, some of the clearest images yet of the young star Fomelhot, which

Fomelot is right there. It's about 23 billion kilometers. from Earth, although that makes it's about 150 times the distance from Earth to the sun. Wow. Now, you can't see it, I guess. It's the brightest star in the southern constellation. What is it?

The constellation of... Isis Ostraneous. Yeah, that's the name of... Isis Ostraneous. Yeah, I got it. Thank you. Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

So you can see it with the... naked eye in the southernmost constellation Pisces Ostrainas. That's what I said. Anyway, the pictures coming back from James Webb Telescope show an amazing picture of Fomelhot. And it shows that the outer gap

is rubble, followed by an outer Cooper belt-like ring. it's pretty fascinating and they've got the dust belt and they've got the inner gap the intermediate belt the outer gap the outer ring the halo the inner disc

so it's pretty fascinating what we're seeing from the James Webb Telescope now is that going to help us in our space wars maybe let's hope so let's hope so all right let's go to the break room I need something cold to drink

and desperately Oh no, Susan Sarandon was arrested. I know when you're thinking, oh no, what did she do? Who did she kill? Who did she hit? What kind of drugs was she on? No, she was at the New York State Capitol in Albany. Is it Albany?

Albany. She was up there in Albany. In support of raising minimum wage for tipped. restaurant workers. So the New York State Legislatures are getting ready to increase the minimum wage to $17 an hour, though

tipped restaurant workers are excluded from this new law. And apparently Susan Surandon is pissed off about that. So she's 76 now. Susan still looks pretty good. Recently celebrated her daughter getting engaged. She was one

of eight activists for one of fair wage. who were arrested. I don't know if there were more than eight people protesting, but eight people were arrested. They were trying to spread the massive pink banner across the concourse before they were arrested for disorderly conduct.

Oh, boy, she was put behind bars because she was protesting. raising the minimum wage for tipped restaurant workers. I thought she would have been, you know, on the picket line for the Writers Guild. Right? Okay, we'll see. We shall see. So the actress was, yeah, she was part of the Writers Guild thing.

Hello, yeah, in New York in front of Netflix headquarters. I thought I saw a picture of her there. Okay. And she was arrested. Back in 2018, too, at the women disobey protest in Washington, D.C. I mean, she's just a criminal. That's all that is. Susan Saran is just a criminal.

No word. Is she out on bail? She was arrested at the President Trump thing with Diane. Oh, yeah. Big time. She's arrested there, but there's no word on it. I mean, she's still in jail in New York? They did.

So she was arrested. It doesn't say she's out on bail. If they just let her go, I don't know. I mean, there's no way that Susan Sarandon is rotting in a jail cell, right? There's just no way. So, let's see. Oh, Sarandon and the others were booked, issued appearance tickets, and released. Okay, who, good.

They didn't have to post any bail. They were just arrested, booked, and issued their appearance tickets and released. So she's not rotting in a jail cell in Albany, New York. And I'm sure her appearance ticket will be taken care of by another someone that goes by the title attorney. Who knows, though? She may show up just to prove a point.

I see the actor Stephen Tompkinson, the UK actor. You remember DCI Banks, big show. It's on Amazon. Prime, I think, and Netflix. I'm not sure what platform it's on now, but it's called DCI Banks. A bunch of years of the show. And he's pretty good. I love him. I do. I love him. Why don't you marry

him? No, I mean, I like his work. And so he has been on trial for grievous bodily harm on a drunk stranger outside his home. And so he was accused of punching this guy, Carl Poole, in the head after finding him in a friend drinking at the bottom of his driveway

in May of 2021. Apparently, according to this, Mr. Poole fell to the ground, broke his skull when his head hit the pavement. Oh, okay. Prosecutors claimed Mr. Topskin snapped and lashed out at Mr. Poole and disgusted at his behavior.

But the actor told jurors that he only pushed Mr. Poole away in self-defense, and the content, wasn't enough to knock a sober man off his feet. Now, the picture of my man, at the time of arrest, he's got long hair and there's a bruise on his left hand. I mean, I don't know what show he was working on at the time,

and if he was supposed to look like that, or if he was, you know, in the UK as part of COVID, so he just stayed home and let his hair grow. He did not look that way in court. He looked like DCI Banks, although DCI Banks, who had lost a lot of weight, he lost, it looks really thin, it looks fine, but I mean, his hair was cut and he was well quaffed and wearing a fine tailored suit, as you would expect Mr. Tompkinson to wear if you were to see him. So he's now, as that trial has come to an end, the jury cleared him of all charges. and that's so that's when they released all the photos of the at the time of his arrest with the long hair and the bruise on his hands the 911 call i don't know i don't know how he explained the bruise on his hand or if he had to

in court uh i know the guy suing him claimed that he had uh damaged to his brain and his skull because of it uh and you know there's just no way and even if it even if it happened look look here's the thing even if it did happen so what are you doing drunk in your underwear in front of his house in the middle of the night douche uh you deserve to get hit it's a pretty nice neighborhood that he lives in not a surprise and uh the 911 caller actually it's the nine nine nine call in the uk was released and he doesn't sound like a a person who just got done punching a guy and driving his skull into the pavement. Please. Hello, mate. I've got two incapable of drunks outside my

in his underwear. You know how the people are? No idea. No. There's a bottle of Yeager nice to be between. You don't know. I've just taken off them. I've asked him to move. They can't move. And how many people? Two. men. Okay, I'll send an officer along there. Could I take your name, please? Stephen Tompkinson. Is that with a pH or a V? Pardon? Stephen, is it pH or V? P8. Oh, which you call on the in. I'll get enough so long there as soon as I can.

So, it doesn't sound like he just got done cracking a skull, but what do I know? He was found innocent of those charges. And when asked about it, he just said, I just want to go home. He said he was out of work. He's had his put his career on hold for this trial. And so I'm sure that he's glad it's over. And I just want to get back to work and go back home. So, all right. Good news for Stephen. So I mentioned this on my chewing segment. Pat Unleashed this week, but I don't know that you and I ever got a chance to talk about it. a 79 year old Robert Duchero I mean Robert De Niro

Who I love, I love his work We've been over it already I love his work But in real life he's just A douche But congratulations are in order To Robert 79 year old Robert

De Niro They just had a brand new baby Congratulations So he's got seven kids now He's out hawking this new movie And he's outhawking this new movie and he was on E.T. Canada

with Brittany Blair and Brittany brought up hey, you know, fun fact, I got six kiddos. Drainah, Raphael, Julian, Elliot, Aaron, and Helen. And he goes, seven, actually.

I just had a baby. Okay. Well, isn't that special? It's good news coverage for him out hawking his new movie about my phone. father and that comes out at the end of the month.

So he just breezed right by it, said he, uh, he, uh, he doesn't see himself as a cool pop, uh, adding he disagrees with his kiddos from time to time, especially the younger ones. Yeah, that's because you're you, Bob. Uh, you just agree with everyone. Ugh. Just unbelievable. Now, he's gotten, uh, uh, uh, divorced a couple of times. I think Grace, his last divorce, he was married to her a couple of times or they split up and got back together.

I forget the whole story there. But this one is with Tiffany Chen, they believe. He didn't say this. But there's footage of him leaving some restaurante valet parking. And you can hear with Tiffany and you can hear someone in the crowd say, come on, guys, she's pregnant. So it's got to be her that just had his new baby. Now, Tiffany, he met her on the set of the intern,

and that was back in 2015. So I don't know if there was any business going on with her on the set of the intern, but that was, he was still buried at the time, I believe. Maybe it was during a time when he and Grace were split up, up. But remember that last divorce, he was crying poor and saying the COVID had made him lose money and he had to continue to work because he needed money and he had, you know, he's invested in these restaurants. And so, I mean, kids aren't cheap. You can quote me on that. Kids ain't cheap.

And especially for Bob and Tiff, because Bob isn't doing any of the raisin of the kids. Okay. He's going to have, there's going to be nannies and Tiff is going to take care of it. But Bob isn't doing any of that. Okay, do thank you. Bob, could you watch the kids? No. With Amex Platinum, $400 in annual credits for travel and dining means you not only satisfy your travel bug, but your taste buds too. That's the powerful backing of Amex.

Conditions apply. Who died today? Who died today? Jacqueline Zeman. Is it Jacqueline Zeman? Zeman? Jacqueline Z-E-M-A-N. You remember her as soap opera legend,

Bobby Spencer on General Hospital. Who doesn't know Bobby Spencer on General Hospital? That's for sure. Anyway, she just passed away at the age of 70. The cause of her death is unknown. So it couldn't be that. Don't you even think about it being that, okay? Because it wasn't.

Just because it says it's unknown, it just means that, well, it's unknown, and it's not that, what you're thinking. So stop thinking it. So Bobby Spencer, or the actress who played Bobby Spencer, dead at the age. age of 70. Rest in peace. Also, in our Who Died

Today segment, Mommy blogger, Heather Armstrong, known as Deuce, two fans, dead at the age of 47, Deuce, D-O-O-C-E. It's a fascinating story, though. It's sad and fascinating all in

one story. She was one of the pioneering mommy bloggers. She, you know, talked about her struggles as a parent and her battles with depression and alcoholism. Her site, deuce.com, d-o-o-o-c-e-com. And on social media, she is, she passed away at the age of 47 and it is reported that it was suicide. And there was no other further details on that. she talked about how she had been sober and she talked about the birth of her children and the struggles of her being a mock.

She was on Oprah and she was one of the most influential women in media and she did these book deals and book tours and social media. I mean, it was, she was a big deal. She was a big deal. She talked about how she, you know, came up with Deuce because she couldn't spell Duce. quickly on social media or something like that if I remember the story right but she passed away in her salt you know committed suicide in her Salt Lake City home and the story is I don't know it's kind of sad she was raised in the you know LDS family and then left the church she graduated from BYU then she left the church and then it talked about how she

struggled with depression and and it talked about how she went into this clinical trial at the University of Utah's Neurophysics Institute, which began to put her in chemically induced comas for 15 minutes at a time for 10 sessions. And she said, I was feeling like life was not meant to be lived. And this was, you know, this was a while ago, at least a few years ago. and she talked about how it was so hard sometimes that she didn't want to live and apparently she finally reached that point. Very sad. So if you or someone you love needs help, get them help.

Jeez, suicide just isn't the answer. 988 is the suicide and crisis lifeline. Use that. get the help that you need. Just really, really sad. One of her posts in 2021, she writes that I celebrated six months of sobriety

by myself on the floor next to my bed, feeling as if I were a wounded animal who wanted to be left alone to die. There was no one in my life who could possibly comprehend how symbolic of victory it was for me. All by one fraught with tears and sobbing so violent that at one point I thought my body would split in two.

The grief submerged me in a tidal waves of pain. For a few hours, I found it hard to breathe. That was October 8th, 2021. Sobriety was not some mystery I had to solve. It was simply looking at all my wounds and learning how to live with them. So apparently she had fallen off the wagon. and that may have aided in her quest not to live. Very sad.

Very, very sad. Heather Armstrong dead at the age of 47. So we do have some good news, though, when you need some kind of motivation. Sometimes it has to come from within, right? So there's new research that suggest cancer-fighting immune cells, have found a way to do just that. Scientists at the University of California, San Diego,

have discovered a property of T-cells that could inspire new anti-tumor therapeutics. Nice. Though a previously undescribed form of cell auto-signaling, T-cells were shown to activate themselves in peripheral tissues, fueling their ability to attack tumors. This study published May 8th of this year in immunity, I am a fan of that

was led by the study's first author and post-doctoral fellow Young Lung Zao a co-signor there's plenty of co-signor authors Enfu Hoy Professor of the School of Biological Scientists at UC San Diego and Jack DeBois

Professor of Pathology at the UC San Diego School of Medicine T cells are the type of white blood cell that protects against infection and help fight cancer. In the lymph organs, T cells are trained by antigen presenting cells, which, as their name suggests, present an antigen, a piece of tumor or pathogen, to T cells stimulating an immune response. A key part of this process is the binding of B7, a protein on the surface of antigen presenting cells, with CD28, a receptor on T cells.

I don't want to talk down to you. I know you understand this. This B7, the CD-28 interaction, is a major driver of the T-cell immune response. So once trained, the T-cells leave the lymph organs and travel through the body to find and attack their targets. Hello. Through a series of experiments, the researchers found that T-cells could indeed self-activate by puckering their cell membrane inward to allow the B-7 protein and the CD-28 receptor. to bind to each other. I mean, people often assume

that the cell membrane is flat, but it actually looks more like a coastline with lots of coves and bays. We found that local membrane curvatures are actually a rich dimension of T-cell auto signaling, which is paradigm shifting in a field that assumed

this only happened across cells. So, duh. Good news. though, that's what I'm saying. It's good news. We're getting breakthroughs all the time. And hopefully, if this is a way that we can create these anti-tumor therapeutics that will, you know, kill these tumors that get in our bodies, good. Good. It's hockey season, and you can get anything you need delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything. So no, you can't get a nice rank on Uber Eats.

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So she was this Beth Bogor, B-O-G-A-R, was apparently, according to her, crossing off her bucket list, taking photos with elephants at the Mason Elephant Park and Lodge.

Man who doesn't want to go to the Mason Elephant Park and Lodge resort. I mean, okay, it might be fun. there's pictures of her in her bikini riding on top of the of the elephant and in fact petting and riding the elephant that bit her so apparently this elephant is with the one trainer who's been with him for 24 years

and the trainer is telling you where to stand and how to take pictures and she didn't know that she was too close and then she said I found my arm sucked inside the animal's mouth I couldn't get my arm out I could just hear cracking and I just starting to panic. Yeah, hello. It claims here that the bill was 10 grand. I mean, part of the story is she got a $10,000 bill.

That seems pretty cheap in Bali. It might be a place to go for surgery if you're getting that taken care of. For 10 grand? Yeah, that's an everyday hospital stay for 10 grand. so she got nuts and bolts in her elbow and uh you know she's apparently it's going to be a you know a long road of rehab uh getting that arm back to work uh you know i know that it's got plates and screws in it and whatever broken bone so i mean she's fine and didn't lose the arm so they say that the resort will help with the medical expenses or pay the medical expenses yeah i would

would think so. I would think that if one of the elephants at the Mason Elephant Park and Lodge in Bali bit their customer or one of their customers, yes, you should take care of that bill. That would be part of the deal, wouldn't it? Now, they did not respond to what they were doing with the elephant. I don't know that at this time, that they, were would put it down i mean it would take more than just one bullet you know to put down an elephant we've talked about that it's going to take more than that right there to put down an elephant i don't care how big that or how small that elephant is it's just a mini elephant uh-huh okay no problem uh that elephant uh if by and by the way maybe that the trainer just takes it away right i mean if

the resort management came out and you hear you're going to go ahead and hide, right? You know anything happened to your elephant, friend. I love the resort, though. She got her arm crushed by this elephant. And it says here that before they took her to the hospital, they just took her in the office and gave her some ice. I have a little ice on that thing. He'll be fine.

Yeah, never mind those broken bones. And, you know, it all bent up like that. I'm sure it's starting to swell a little bit. Put a little ice on that, wouldn't you? That says, they didn't take her to the hospital until after about an hour. After the people at the Bali Mason Elephant Park and Lodge. Oh, we gave her some ice and she's in the office, but that doesn't look too well. Maybe we should take her to the hospital.

Yeah, you think maybe you should. Good rule of thumb, though, when you are at an elephant park and lodge, don't get too close to the elephant's mouth. It's just a rule of thumb or a rule of arm or a rule of elephant mouth. But you get the point. Hey, be sure to follow me on social media sites on Twitter at Jeffrey JFR. Facebook and Instagram is Jeff Fisher Radio. you can always email the show chewing the fat at the blaze.com. I may not reply to all those, but I do read them all.

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glad, mean, mad, whatever you'd like, and I'll do that for you for whatever the price is on cameo. Speaking of Twitter, though, I see where, you know, we've got the news that Tucker is going to do his show on Twitter now, and I see where Elon has invited Don Lemon, who was sacked from CNN, to do his show on Twitter.

Elon has said, hey, let you launch your own program on Twitter. The audience, maybe the tweet was, have you considered doing your show on this platform? Maybe worth a try. Audience is bigger. Yeah, the audience is a lot bigger. I know they, CNN hosted their town hall with Trump last night.

I'm sure those numbers are. going to be huge, but that won't matter because it's Trump and it's on CNN. So whatever, whatever he said will be just Trump lies. You can count on that. There's no doubt about that. Let's talk about Temple University for a moment, shall we? Temple University unveils porn studies course on sex and the patriarchy. Oh, no right. verse wrong perspective. Oh, course instructor Jennifer Pollitt

claimed the course will help fill in gaps in students' sexual education. Oh, so it keeps going, oh, I just want to be, oh, is that special? So Temple, in Pennsylvania, for those of you that don't know, Philadelphia, has started its first

porn studies course. Amy, to teach students about sex outside of a moral, Right versus wrong framework. Right. Oh, wait. Oh. Additionally, the new course, which has become popular at the school,

will serve as a jumping off point to talk about woke issues like race, ability, and the patriarchy. Oh, good. I mean, oh. The course titled Social Perspectives on Digital Pornography, the other sex ad. Oh, that's. Oh. students are going to learn to discuss sexuality, intimacy, and power dynamics. The professor explained that starting a class on pornography seemed prudent, considering young people's reliance on the medium for filling in gaps in their sexual education.

And she's had to extend the class now from 25 to 40 students because the demand is just, too high. So in addition to teaching about sex, though, the class aims to use pornography as a foray into discussion about progressive topics. Oh, she said her goal in creating the course was to use digital pornography as a jumping off point. Yeah, because we don't want to have any class where we're not talking about race, where we're not talking about the patriarchy. Right? All right. I want the class to explore porn outside the social stigmas and the morality discussion attached to it.

I want to get students away from binary thinking. Viewing porn as simply right versus wrong. Good versus bad. Good. I mean, oh, oh. So if you think that college porn is ridiculous, you think again, students leave recognizing how valuable it is to research and to study pornography across all disciplines and to figure out what we can learn. So I'm thinking about maybe starting my own chewing the fat pornography class. I think it would be only prudent to fill in the gaps.

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