Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S1 Ep6 | Talking Walking Dead | The Ones Who Live

Episode Date: April 1, 2024

Talking Walking Dead: The Ones Who Live  Season One Episode Six Season Finale     SHOW TITLED: The Last Time     With myself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill & Maximus Fisher     EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB:  Rick and Michonne need to perform a near impossible miracle     This is the Rick and Michonne story  Show Description:  The love story between Rick and Michonne. Changed by a world that is constantly changing, will they find themselves in a war  Against the living or will they discover that they too are The Walking Dead?         Each week we discuss the latest episode and what the future may and should hold.  We also discuss all things Dead.  Email the show [e-mail]  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season one, episode six, The Walking Dead, The Ones who live, season finale. Show description, don't forget, this is Rick and Michone's story, the love story between Rick and Michauden changed by a world that is constantly changing. Will they find themselves in a war against the living, or will they discover that they too are the Walking Dead? This episode titled The Last Time, the episode description on IMDB, Rick and Michelle, need to perform a near impossible miracle.

This is Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it. Talking Walking Dead, myself, Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill and Maximus Fisher, bringing you the season finale of the ones who live, recap. Just a quick, just a quick factual note. Well, I'm going to call it a factual note. I haven't done the work myself,

but this is from at Trash XX Rawlings on X. Trash is his headline name. Richonon kissed 104 times in six episodes of the ones who live. It took me forever to put this together. And then he added a couple of emojis. And then he replies to himself saying, oh, edit that, it's 107. I missed three after they talk about RJ and

episode four. So it was just another, you know, beautiful kiss vest of Richon on the season finale because we had the series finale. Yeah, well, let's hope that it's a series finale. I mean, they haven't re-uped season two. It's definitely open enough to hit it. And the numbers have been, I mean, they've been touting how good the numbers are on AMC plus.

I'm not sure what they are on AMC. but they've definitely touted the numbers as the most watched shows, you know, over. It started with Dead City. Then it started with Daryl took the lead. And then the ones who live took the lead over those two. So they've definitely been touting the numbers. So I find it hard to believe they won't do a season two. I don't think they will.

But you never know. So anyway, we just had to start with, you know, the last time, the last bidness together before we went back. to Philly. Right off the back. I know. Remembering it all. I remember it all. And I want...

I liked this episode. I'm just going to say it. I like this episode. I did too. I liked a lot of the flashbacks. I liked a lot of the kills. I liked all that. Rick was great in this episode.

Rick was awesome in this episode. There was... I'll save it to the end. Because I only had one issue with this. and it was one reaction. That was it. The rest of it was great, but there was one reaction where I was like, wait, what? But we can say that to the end

because it happened at the end. But otherwise it was great. Action was great. Everything was great. I enjoyed the Michone going to our girls' apartment looking for the dossier. We got that we found the dossier. We did find the dossier.

It was in the cat's sculpture. It was in the cat's butt of the sculpture. So I guess that the wonderful thing. It wasn't really, it wasn't very dossier looking-ish. It was not. It looked like something you find in a, like a bottle note that someone threw off a ship,

you know, or something like that. The dossier wasn't what I expected. Not a folder, just like, just a hidden piece of paper, three hidden pieces of paper. Tide with ribbon, you know. Up with the window, but we did find it,

and we did see some. of the serial killer writing on the pages, documenting the Rick and Michelle and Alexandria City. That whole sequence, I was like, what are you doing,

Michone? Like, it's supposed to be like this clandestine op and she's trash in the room. Right. Just straight trashing it. And then just rips it

and throws it around on the ground. I'm like, what are you doing? She picks up the pieces. She picks up the pieces. And puts them in her pocket. So you're thinking, okay,

she's going to get caught. They're going to find all this crap in your pockets. Right. Like, the whole time, like, you're just burning. it in the sink.

I'm sorry, what was the quote that I said? The first thing he said, burn it immediately. Burn it now. What are we doing? What are we doing? Each room has, I don't know, a bathroom. Burn it over the toilet and flush. What are we even doing?

I don't understand. Great Walker killer, great soldier, horrible clandestine ops operatives. No kidding. I mean, is that really a surprise? And then, of course, she's, you know, ready to leave and decides, no, I can't leave. I have to go watch a film and I'm going to get...

Well, we're all the reds up. By the way, so I know we're kind of jumping ahead of ourselves. We got the echelon briefing. We got... Partial of the echelon breaching, right? No. I don't know that we got the whole... Well, I got the whole thing. All right. If that's all of that, I expect... The last thing was swear on the sword. Yeah, and I mean, we... And I did enjoy, you know, no one like you, Rick, and Bill knew that. Rick was the man. You know, there was nobody... He was the man.

And I, you know, I like the, you know, the sword that kills is the sword that brings life. I like that. And, you know, it was kind of a, it was kind of a, you know, when they reflected back, when he asked Rick to reflect back, that was, I was kind of. And he had a lot of, like, all of dead, basically. Yeah. And asked him what his worst kill was, you know, who he killed, what his worst. I ripped a man's throat out with my teeth. Right, which was awesome.

I mean, it just brought back memories of that episode. It was such a great episode because there's just, he's our man right then. That's our man. Yeah, so a few things. Like going back to that, you know, Michone sneaking into that, you know, presentation or whatever. I thought it was just so ridiculous that they're all wearing these big head coverings sitting in this theater. That way conveniently no one can tell, see each other's faces. I was like, this is like eyes wide shut.

Stanley Kubrick like, you know, organize this specific meeting of the CRM? Come on. I thought that was kind of ridiculous. Overall meta, I now understand what they tried to make CRM, like, you know, the military to be. Yes.

And so basically, I mean, now that it looks like it's over with, I kind of see that is, if Rick wouldn't have constantly had those episodes where he was to, he would take a step back and reevaluate how far he was pushing his morality. Like it, like, Like if they would have been successful in killing off Negan, you know, station by station going in and slit in their throats the middle of the night, that was awesome part of the show.

But if they would have continued down that line, they would have been CRM. They absolutely would have been CRM. And I guarantee that really crystallized when they were. Go ahead. I was saying that Rick would have agreed with General Beale. Great. Right. But that really crystallized to me

when they were having that fight with that South African chick When she was like What was the quote? You probably know, But like, What was her quote? Like we're building the world. She was fighting with,

She was fighting with Michone and she was basically saying, You're just like me. And, And Michone was like, Well, no, like, you know, I didn't give up on. Exactly.

Right, right, right. And I was like, that's what they're trying to do. And I actually didn't roll my eyes at it. I was like, okay, that kind of makes sense and made it pretty much okay for me. It doesn't. And, you know, we, we learned that which we knew really from world beyond that, you know, CRM Beal, the military was acting on their own, you know, their own entity. Because he was just saying, yeah, you guys can go play politics all you want. I'm me over here.

And it actually looked kind of cool, too. He had like, what, two to three thousand of his like elite, you know, secret soldiers? The red stripes, yeah. It was just cool. I dug it. Yeah. Yeah, that was kind of cool. I'll give you that, no question. And there was some great, some great kills,

the Beal death. You know, Michone had a couple of great kills. Then we had Thorne, you know, that was, her death was great. I will say that I was,

I would like to know what the special tarp was made of. Covered in water. for the explosion because it's a magic tarp right there. It's a magic tarp. I know it's the Walking Dead. I know that there are people. And I know that things happen to our advantage.

That's the way the show goes. But that's a magical tarp right there. That's a very good point. I'm glad you make that, Jeff, because I also noticed that Hollywood learned something from, you know, there were people that were putting like panties and underwear on their face, you know, for a face master in COVID.

And apparently, it doesn't matter if it's like, a crazy chemical weapon. You can just have, you know, like one of those stupid little gaiters over here. Then they got a gas mask. I was like, well, I guess that kind of makes sense, you know, with that mentality. Straight up.

Thank you. A little gator over your face. Got the gas mask later. After the initial explosion. You just running around huffing and puffing, fighting with a stupid piece of cloth over his face. He's good. I have to say, like,

the whole thing with the whole thing with the walkers and then like setting off the grenades was awesome. Yeah, that was fun. That was fun. And it was fun to have Beal in the cart on the elevator, you know, with the blood dripping. Rick just kind of hoping nobody's going to notice, but then the guy does notice. That was a hell of a good fight. That was a good fight.

I know. I was hoping, I thought for sure that Rick was going to kill him with the elevator door. Oh, yeah. You know, push the button in time for it to open and then close again as it just crushes down. on it. I had that. That would have been fun. But him just completely bludgeoning him with his prosthetic. That was good. He did not let up. He just kept going.

That's classic Rick Grimes right there. That is. Yeah, that was really good. We had a lot of classic Rick this episode, which was fun. Him, the fight, I loved the fight with Bail where Bair realizes, okay, he's not on my side. Yeah, it was close because I will say that was a great scene with them together because I felt

like at one point and obviously that wasn't the case but I did feel like at one point he was winning Rick over I feel like there was one little point there where he was like okay well that makes sense okay when I had that thought

and it completely blew past me but there was way too much dialogue so I just missed it but he she showed him that like imagery and said something about 14 years did you guys catch the specific what was the specifics of that what was 14 years he said

humanity statistics show for us that most, if not all, humanity will be gone in 14 years. And they're trying to slow that down. You know, I mean, they're trying to, you know, widen that gap. Okay. For them, at least. Correct. Correct. That's correct.

Shortening the gap for many others. That's correct. Yeah. Yeah, because that was his deal that he needed to, uh, he needed to do. that for food and you know just for his humanity to survive longer than the 14 years and then that's why he offered and he offered rick's team which whether you believe it or not but he did offer rick and his people safety said he would bring them all in and right about that time is where i was thinking i think rick is going to go with them i like it i like this let's go

and michaud's going to be michelne's going to be left hold of the bag he did something him with his knife. Like, I thought he was putting his knife back in the holster. I did too. I thought he was, right. That's the point. Yeah, I was like, what? He's winning him over. He's going to strap all that redstripe. Mishon's going to be left out in the wind.

Dude, that was pretty dark. That was the same scene. With the, with the other, with the, with the Mishone's presentation going on at the same time and going back and forth, and they're talking about they're going to get 10% of the children but only 10% and they're showing their faces up on the screen. I was like, which ones

taking like that was a great scene and like what they're planning on doing like we're doing this then we're going to gas that whole town we're going to kill everybody else that's hardcore man it was like mass genocide just for this one group to survive well and that's what they've been doing right we learned that from uh we learned that from the world beyond uh you know and which they referenced uh you know getting rid of Omaha and they reference and he referenced uh getting rid of the scientists that we saw flashbacks of from World Beyond that we knew about. We knew that he was wheeling and dealing with foreign entities, which is where we got Daryl, right, which is how they got Daryl and Daryl to France because of that wheeling and

dealing selling walkers for testing with, you know, international entities. So, I mean, he was, it was, it was pretty, they did wrap it up. They did bring everything. I thought they did a really good job at wrapping that story up, especially with what shocked me is when Beal said we will basically pillage and kill every single group that is out there, only taking in little people and taking all their stuff to survive. And then they're saying, oh yeah, and then after we kill Portland, we're going to take over the Civic Republic, get rid of their system and basically induce martial law. I don't It wasn't clear to me how Thorne was such a big convert to this after getting that briefing She I don't think she really believed in Thor in in in in Okafore's thing like Rick did

Not Okafore yeah I know yeah Thorne did not believe much in Okafore and then she saw the Echelon briefing that And apparently that convinced her Yeah I mean it's it's a it's a legitimate convincing you know I mean Because like I said, in my mind, I thought he almost had Rick at that point, you know, because he's going through that like, look, we're here. You survived. You did.

You are a survivor. And that's what we need. And those dangleberries out there, they're going to be lucky to make it 14. In fact, they're going to be lucky to make it past 14 hours. So why don't you just pack up your stuff and we're going to go take care of business? I mean And we'll say And we'll save your group

Because I like you Well yeah Because Rick is the man Right I mean Rick is there's no one like him So you know what I'll You can bring in whoever you want And we'll make sure they're okay I don't know

Okay It's just wild Do you imagine yourself being in that briefing And he's like look The experts say They probably only have 14 years anyway So we're just killing them all Okay

Well All right If we all Right And the thing is, is, look, we all have this amount of time and maybe shorter, depending on what diseases crop up, how much food we can make, how many people, you know, what we're feeding the people, how much we're feeding the people. You know, sometimes people are expendable. You can't say me, but I'm reaching for my knife right now. You won't convert me, Jeffie, to this.

You won't convert me, Jeffie. What's happening? I mean, they don't realize they're making the case for what they're preaching. These same people are preaching climate change in the end of the world. I know we don't need to get into politics, but the same people that are doing this show, showing how bad that these people are are doing the same thing. Thank you. Facts.

Straight facts. Yes. And they, and for some reason, they don't see it or don't want to see it. but that's another day. I see a chew in the fat Jeffie monologue on Monday. That's another day. I loved, but then they get into the fight and Rick is able to kill him with his sword, which that was a great, like him going on a monologue and goes,

we're the ones that are alive. You're dead. Yeah, his reference to we're also the dead was also very interesting as well. Yeah. Because people have been saying that since the very start of season one. Yeah, we are the Walking Dead. Yeah. I love to, and I will say, I did, I did, that's why I think,

I think we're not going to get a season two. I mean, they, they wrap this up pretty good, you know, while we could get to the end if you'd like, because, you know, I was hoping that maybe, I don't know, they all died the end, roll credits, it's over. Cool. No. Can we, before we do, can, can you guys maybe explain this?

because again, this is something that I might have missed, but in the melee at the end, when Rick is covered in walkers and he explodes a hand grenade, how did he not die there? He was, so I rewatch that scene. My gosh, what kind of, I thought you were military. I was confused. I was confused, too,

so I actually went back and rewatched that scene myself. So he pulls the grenade and then drops it. As he's backing up, there's crates, and he hides behind one of the crates. that's cornered so that he's at least far enough and behind cover that. Oh, you can see that? Yeah. It's behind a ton of blood and fog.

Okay, so honestly, I thought that he pulled the grenade, and when he tossed it into the crowd, he used those other walkers as a shield. I didn't think he went behind the crate. I thought he was using those other walkers. I saw him go behind something. It could have been another walkers. or shield.

But like after the explosion, he pushes out two or three walkers to come out. So I thought that that's what he used as his shield for the, I mean, that's what I would have done. Yeah. I mean, you have done similar. Orranged by walking. Well, don't. I don't want to.

That brings back too many. But, uh, I mean, if you're going to, I figured that he threw the grenade, you know, tossed it as well as far as he could, outside. of the surrounding what kind of like what uh you know what what's his face did it when uh oh what's what's her face his husband under when glenn yes with the dumpster the dumpster and he was you know they were all the walkers were on top of him and he realized that use the guy's body is yeah he realized that all of that goo saved him you know i don't know they could have explained it better that's that's i if max is right i didn't go back

and watch it. So maybe he did pull himself back behind the crates. That's what you're saying? That's what I think I saw. Like I said, it was hard to tell with all the walkers, the blood, and the yellow fog of chlorine gas. Apparently, the magic tarp is only good for one cover.

They couldn't get over to the magic tarp in time. That would have saved it completely with the grenade. But I really did think that he used the walkers as cover. Anyway, I mean, it was it's a good vote because I thought maybe that either way it's

either way actually we're going to kill them well I was gonna be I was getting ready to say I'm not doing this podcast if they would have killed Rick off like that I know I was like nah not even gonna bother I know

but then when that happened we get kind of the news report we just go dark man they kill Thorne and then we get that news report from the civic republic that that they found everything the Beals men are all dead

the 3,000 red stripes and that the rest of the military didn't know what was going on which we already knew that and that the Civic Republic themselves is now taking control of the military and then

then we're back home yeah and I would that I was so happy it landed back home so what did you guys think about that the reunion? I loved it I loved it. I loved it. I thought it was awesome. Max loved.

I was pissed. Really? Yeah. Why? Because it took what felt like an hour and 45 minutes for Judith to even recognize that her dad was standing two feet away. And I was like, uh, what? Like, she's, he was the entire reason that she sent Michaud out. Right.

She thought he was dead. surprise, I'm not dead, and she doesn't even look at him. She did. They both hugged Michone. About like an hour and 45 minutes. Right. And not once did Michelle say, I want you to meet your father. I thought for sure that was going to happen.

I could believe the sequence there. Setting aside the Judith, okay. I didn't really give that much thought because I was so pissed at Michelle not saying, you know. To RJ. I want you to meet your father Then they had to we had to They just stand there And it's like so you're the

You're the brave man You're the brave man Yeah Little fuck brat He fell out exactly He was like I felt like he was being like pushed to the side And he was the secondary character all of a sudden

I mean I would have been fine for them all the both to share The spotlight there But it would But to prioritize that way and be like I wanted to give Rick his own The thing is it was Mishone

then Rick. They wanted Rick to have the final like goodbye with both of them for I guess the audience as well because it was Judith and RJ hugging Michone then Judith looks at Rick and like notices it's him

and that gives him a big hug. I didn't recognize you with one hand. What do we do? See that part was even more kind of ridiculous because... To be fair. To be fair time out. To be fair. Rick disappeared when she was a very young. I know.

She knows who Rick Grimes is. I know. She was not six months old. So like I was I was great with it in the initial like they're running through the field. I got goosebumps. I was like, oh, this is cool. The reunion. Then they hug for an hour and 45 minutes.

30 seconds. And then Judith kind of puts her hands or hips and goes, that's you. Where you been? Okay. And she just kind of sachets three steps. I got it. Oh. you and then it's like okay bring it in for a little sideways hug i was like except it was a

full-blown hug well i had to be a sideways hug there's only one arm but tell you're not except it was a full-blown dude you are misremembering this it was a full-blown hug you're the brave man you can call me dad oh mo the lawn yeah i know and then and then it was all happy happy and we heard the Christmas music and the Hallmark ending rolled credit. I thought it was great. That's just me. Watch it again and just count how long it is in your head. It's going to feel like an hour in 45 minutes.

But like he's just standing back there awkwardly. It's like, oh, yeah, it's that guy with the one arm. It's the first time he's ever seeing his son. Of course he'd be a bit in shock. You know. It was strange that, you know, now that I'm actually, I'm okay, so I'm not mad about RJ anymore, although I still am.

But I, it was strange to me how long they hugged Mishone without, before going to Rick, specifically Judith. Like, Judith would have hugged Mishone

and gone right to Rick, right? I mean, she was the whole point. Well, she hadn't seen her mom in like, at this point,

two years. Yeah, and her, yes, she thought her dad is dead. Yeah. Suddenly figure it out your dad is alive.

He's resurrected. And you're not even, acknowledge him for an hour and 45 minutes. You keep saying that. It was like 30 seconds. You need to go back and watch it, Max. You need to go back. Somebody is misremembering, and I think it's you. I don't know. I was like, I'm thinking if I'm Andrew Lincoln,

and I'm like, geez, how long do I have to hold this sad face? The thing is, I think he was in charge of that, Lincoln said he was in charge of that ending. So, yeah, because he probably. didn't think about how awkward he was going to look just stand there for it. Because he wanted to get the, he said in the post show wrap up where he wanted to get that

Shawshank Redemption, uh, great, uh, gathering and then the, the pullback with the God's eye view of everything. So it, you know,

felt so much bigger. And that was, that was cool. And he said the C word, uh, right there. He said, give them that closure. Yeah. I was like, this is probably serious finale.

Yeah, this is, which honestly, I am, Jason, you were right, it's over. This is, I don't think this is going to be a season two. I think there's still a chance for you to be right. Because as Jeffrey was pointing out, the viewership numbers. Yeah. They were pretty impressive.

So I don't know if they just wanted to gauge how much fatigue people had, you know, on these two characters and Walking Dead in general. Yeah. So it's possible. Like, I think I read a quote from Gimple, not too long ago, where he just kind of said, well, anything's possible.

So there was no finale, you know, he didn't, he was asked if there was going to be another season. He just said anything is possible. So he definitely didn't say, the door is closed. No, but that just means, that just depends on how much Rick wants. Exactly, exactly.

So it was written to where it could be a finale. That's closure. We gave it to them. The fans are happy. But when they're going back through their books and they're like, damn, we made a lot of money, and we can get a deal with these guys to come back. I don't know.

I know. And we also will see how season two of Dead City and Daryl. And season two of Daryl does numbers-wise. And if they are still strong, which I'm sure they will be, at least for AMC Plus, which is all they're caring about. That's all that we're getting minor reports on the numbers for AMC Plus. No specifics inside those numbers, but just overall numbers for the season premieres and finale. And they're in love with those numbers. So they absolutely will try to talk Rick to come back.

No question. I think what's more than likely is kind of like what Marvel does with their like high profile cameos. So, you know, like we know that Carol mentioned in that radio broadcast when she was talking during the Daryl Diction show. She said he's back or something like that. He came back. He came back. Which I think we all know is Rick. We knew that from then.

we were just waiting. So it would make sense. Like if like when they're wrapping up the Daryl Diction show, they get back to Alexandria and then they bring Michone and Rick back, you know. Because what's strange is, okay, so we've got the CRM and you know, this

is in Philadelphia. I mean, we know that Dead City is, I mean, New York is its own entity. They haven't even breached New York. Well, New York isn't, doesn't have a military. Remember, New York. Well, you're not getting in there. All the bridges are gone. New York is its own energy. So, I mean, that's a big deal. New York is it like Manhattan?

Literally is it's, is an island that's almost impossible to get into other than by boat or helicopter, funny enough. Well, at some point, they were going to need, they're going to need, uh, walkers for food. I realize that, or I mean, walkers for energy. I realize that there's, you know, eight or nine or 10 or 12 million people in New York that were burning as walkers. But that is, you know, that is. And, you know, isn't forever. That's going to, that's going to, they're going to run out at some point. So they're going to need to find a way for more walkers for energy and food. Right? That's the same thing that, you know, CRM was concerned about. So things are not going to get really any better in New York. I just, I don't know. Just me. So when is that? Is Dead City further down the pipeline than

Yeah, it's going to be Daryl than Dead City from what I understand. It's going to be Daryl season two, then Dead City. That's weird. That sure is. I know. And, you know, the Daryl is the book of Carol or whatever, which I don't know that I'm actually looking for it. I hope they do Carol right, because the thing is, what we saw these last few episodes of the ones who live, and I remember Jason complaining about it in the beginning. And so was our grandpa, who we watched the show with is the thing is, the thing is,

Rick, for the first two or three episodes, felt weirdly different compared to all the other versions of him we have seen. Then after the romance episode, he started to get back into classic Rick Grimes, where at this episode, we had full, oh, this is the Rick we know and love. So hopefully they actually do that with Carol, where she is treated correctly like Carol.

Yeah, there's only one way to do Carol correctly, and that's like Gorilla War for, Fair Ninja Warrior. Yeah. That's what I would like to see. I'm still not excited to see it centered on her journey too, Daryl. I'm not excited about that. It could be okay.

Although, although if it is the carol we want to get to Daryl, which it probably will have to be, it may be fine. Because remember, she got the guy who got his bike. She put him into the trunk. Yeah.

Yeah. So, I mean, but then she's going to get to Daryl and, you know, make chocolate chip cookies. And it's going to be okay. It just, it feels like it's like Batman and Robin from the perspective of, from the perspective of Robin. You know what I mean?

And I'm like, I want to see it from the perspective of Batman. I don't want to see it from the family. Yeah, we like Batman. Actually, the perspective of Robin is some of the most interesting comic book stuff ever written depending on who actually writes that.

Oh, we're done. Okay. All right. Episode 485. Chapter 5 is when Rob, Robin first you realize. Okay, we got it. If you read comic books, you'll actually understand this.

We got it. Okay. Thank you. All right. That was the most max comment ever. I love it. That's got to be, we got to do a cold open to the podcast, and that's got to go before you saying. Whatever. We're done. So the ones who live is over. It's over.

Goodbye. Have a nice day. We're done. Thank you for listening to Talking Walking Dead. It's over for now, right? I mean, we're going to, we end it with, you know, the way, of course, you know, with the generic gimple away of, well, you never know. Anything's possible. I'm just sitting here with my little binoculars on, my little camera, pretending I know what I'm doing.

But it's probably. before we end this I actually I said this after the episode this whole show and dad was very happy about this this whole show other than two or three flashbacks and Jadis

there were no world beyond main characters in this show that's always a good thing no kidding other than Jadis and Beal right wasn't he Beal wasn't in that world beyond we talked about him right

they talked about him a few times, but he wasn't in World Beyond. And Jada started in Walking Dead. Yeah. So, I mean, she was doing the, she was the special spotlight in World Beyond. They do not deserve

being spotlights in the big show. You take your two seasons. Thank you very much. Goodbye. Yeah. All right. All right. So I guess we'll see you guys. When Darrell comes out, when Darrell starts, which is sometime in I don't know, 20, 28, 2029.

Probably get a season premiere about January of 2030, and we'll be looking forward to it. October? Actually, between the strike, it'll probably be October or November of this year. Yeah. I don't know that they've actually, they said later 2024, I believe, is what I read. So because they're, you know, they were busy filming right after the strike.

So what do you got? I'm looking at it. now. October just makes sense. They always used to do big premier October. October. Is that official? Yeah, it seems like it.

It does no date, but it just says October. That's what they're shooting for. So with the filming and everything, they probably, it will be October or November. You're right. They usually do October because then they give you the first five or six episodes and take that holiday break. Yeah, in December, yeah. All right. So we'll see you then for Darrell, Book of Carol, or whatever they're going to call it.

Then after that, Dead City. and then that's all that's on the horizon for Walking Dead right now. You know what? You're probably going to be right, though. AMC Plus is going to be worth too much to them to let Rick walk away. That's weird. This is weird. When Walking Dead ended, we only had finished World Beyond and we still had fear.

We'd had Darrell coming up. We had this show coming up. We had Dead City. We had Tales of the Walking Dead. All of that. And then now we only have two. shows coming up of season two. Yeah.

I wouldn't mind expanding on some of the tails. I like, I didn't like all of them, but I did like two or three episodes that they could expand down with tails. You know, Scott, you can email me, chewing the fat at the blaze.com. You and I can sit down and talk, work out some episodes for you. No problem. I'm happy to do that. You know what the, you know, it's going to be the next show for Walking Dead, like the new

IP. It's going to be Alicia and. in L.A. with her mom. Okay, seriously. Seriously, we are done. Thanks for, we're not wrapping this up at all. We're walking away from the table. No.

We start missing that. That was, this show was good. Okay, how about a series review? How was the show? Father? I liked it. I think they really did use this six episodes

to try to cram into what would have been two movies, right? at least two movies. And so they, you know, they jumped some timelines pretty fast. But it seemed to come together at the end. And we got the, you know, we got the rolling credits with, you know, Santa Claus is coming to town and Christmas music playing. And everybody was happy.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I enjoyed it. I did not like the premise of the show, the love story. I still to this day do not like that. They could have done this so many other ways and had been fine. and so much better. So that was kind of eye roll to me. But there was enough good moments and there was Rick Grimes.

So, I mean, it's really, it's like bacon and eggs. It's really hard to screw that up. I know. I know. And that's, look, Max mentioned, you know, his grandpa, my father-in-law, who watches the show with us, he, he's like, okay, so it made me think that, you know, he's probably right because we're going to. to watch it and enjoy it for what it is and be happy that we have Rick Grimes there.

But the love story that you talk about and the business story that we all were like, okay, enough already. Because they were all wrapped up at the end, and we're getting the God's Eye View of the Stop. Max is going, I liked it. It was really good episode. It's a happy ending. And he said, for women.

And I thought, yep, there you go. except I liked it. The premise of that only makes sense is if it was a driving plotline throughout the entire series. And it was not. It was not. It was like a story about a man and his son,

you know, pretty much the majority of it. Yeah. Yeah. And Rick and Michumachon got together mid-season five or six. And it was never believable. It was always awkward. So, you know, forcing that into like the whole point of the season, you know, ending the show.

That's why it was awkward. But whatever. Like I said, it was bacon and eggs, hard to screw up. So I enjoyed it ultimately. All right. We're done. Thanks for listening. Jason Butchell, Maximus Fisher.

Thanks for listening. We'll see you the next time around here on Talking Walking Dead.