Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S10 E1 - Talking Walking Dead

Episode Date: October 7, 2019

THE WALKING DEAD TITLED:  Lines We Cross This is TALKING WALKING DEAD… With myself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill and Maximus Fisher EPISODE DESCRIPTION from IMDB The group in Oceanside continues to train in case the Whisperers return; tensions are high as the heroes struggle to hold onto their concept of civilization Join us each week after the newest episode as we discuss the latest happenings and what the future may hold.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 10, episode one of the Walking Dead, titled Lines We Cross. And that makes this Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it, Talking Walking Dead with myself, Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrell, Maximus Fisher. I'm back again. Episode one, season 10, and we are just as excited as you to have you back. Episode description on IMDB, the group in Oceanside continue. to train in case the whisperers return. Tensions are high as the hero's struggle to hold on to their concept of civilization.

And then we go into chapters. I don't know if we're going to do this for every episode, but I kind of liked it. Yeah. It's a copseing. It's a copy. So like a lot of shows are doing that now, but it worked. It was fine. I don't think they'll keep doing it, though.

Just for episode one? Yeah. Yeah, I think I agree with you there. I liked episode chapter one was Training Day, which was fascinating. So I was not in the whisperer mode And so I guess because I've been so cynical From watching fear You know like that's the mode I was in

So I have to be deprogrammed from the awfulness that was fear But my first thought was Why are they going through all this trouble? Like before back in the day when Rick was in charge Like four of them would go and wipe out like an entire herd of a million Right And they didn't have to do all these like crazy shenanigans But then I was like oh

But then they don't know What's what? They don't know what's what? Then I got it so yeah In the herd yeah The deprogramming is slow, but it's going to, it's going. I love the first walker we see. Actually, no, before we talk about that, we have to talk about the first scene of this episode, the Soviet satellite.

Yeah, that was great. That was great. And, of course, you know, that's, I mean, you don't, we would talk about it maybe off the air where, you know, what would happen in the breakdown of society like this. And that's one of the things that would happen, right? The, you know, satellites would fall from the sky. Yeah. And they're falling from the sky now. I thought that's all they were hinting at.

I didn't think they were going to make it a major plot point. Even at that moment. That was the crash point. Yeah, I thought they were just showing that, yeah, society has continued to degrade. I didn't. But I thought this was really cool. Yes. It sucked me in from the beginning.

It was like the cinematic, you know, level. Yeah. Like we were watching a miniseries or movie. Absolutely. It was great. Had that feel. Then we saw the first Walker, which was where the driftwood had stuck to the walker. That's got to be one of the craziest looking walkers.

Actually, there were a lot of crazy. There were a great ones this episode. The waterlogged walkers. And, of course, the, you know, Michone on the beach during their training day where she was cutting the three heads and the one as slow motion as the eye flies by the swing. Oh, that was so great. I noticed that. I was the one who noticed the eye.

And then he was. Along with the rest of the world. You didn't notice it. You didn't notice it the first time. And then it was fun. And obviously, you know, as they're trying to, uh, Be gladiators. Yeah.

Against the Whispers. It was, you know, it was fun to see. Now, prior to the new episode, episode one of season 10, you know, they were running the last episode from last season. And they had the, uh, that showed the, the radio was someone hollering out. Remember the radio? Yeah. Yeah, I remember that. I'm still trying to figure out who that was.

Maybe it had been something. I think, I think so, too. Now it's going to be Maggie because it wasn't Morgan. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, of course. Totally Maggie.

Thank you, which we talked about. There's no problem, especially since, you know, her other show went the way of the trash heap. That's literally, I think we should stop and just re, like, focus on that. That's exactly what you said was going to happen. Because you were like, yeah, the ratings are bad, shows canceled. She's totally coming back to walking dead. Absolutely. Totally cold.

I have to give you props to that. Yeah, you didn't call it. And they made it such a big deal at the New York Comic Congress. She comes out on stage in a mask. shows it off and everybody's all happy. Okay. Okay. We got it.

I think this is more a trick for the audience because you have to admit it if you were in the audience, that would have been kind of cool. Yeah. This is big though. This is good for the show. More of the OG characters coming back is good. Yes. He's excited for the Rick movies that are coming out probably next year.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this is the whole deal, right? I mean, it's the Walking Dead world, right? It's the trilogies. And we have an interview with Gimple talking about how all of that works together and how it's all, how the circle emblem works together between the Walking Dead world and the movies and how they're coming together.

Yeah. And one of the things that he talks about is intertwined is the A&B classification system used so far to categorize Rick Negan and Father Gabriel. Answers behind those labels will come in the Walking Dead movies. trilogy. Of course, so that's starring Andrew Lincoln, who has been relocated to Philadelphia.

Who was it? What were Rick and Negan? What were they labeled? Were they? They were A's. Right? Because remember when she took Rick and What's her face? A Trash Lady? No, Rick was a B. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Rick was a B. Okay. All right. But I'm just saying that Father Gabriel, she was, she

left him in the trash heap and she said that she thought he was an A, right? Mm-hmm. And he wasn't. Remember when Trash Lady took off in the helicopter? That makes no sense. We still have no clue what A and B mean.

Well, I mean, strong characters, right? Characters that survive and are leaders. Well, you wouldn't, then you wouldn't classify Rick as a B. I know that. I don't get it. I don't either. Unless you're classifying A's as someone who's a strong, powerful leader that really doesn't have a conscience.

you know and Rick is a strong, powerful leader that was trying to have a conscience and build a better society, right? Yeah, but a priest doesn't really classify as someone that is a strong leader but doesn't have a conscience. That is true.

That is very weird. But Rick wasn't having sex with her either. That's true. So she was like, okay, you're an A. Well, Gabriel Ari got... That's a good point. She probably just said that so he'd be spared. Right.

Well, Gabriel already has another girl anyway. Yeah, Gabriel. I don't know. I do not. We've gone through this. I literally think because we know they listen to this. All of my chicks, they're just giving to Father Gabriel. Like one wild father. Let's get back to the beginning. Let's get

back to the Vikings. Okay, let's get back to the beginning as we talk about Luke having a little ocean side business. Yeah. That was cool. Yeah. I was like making little notes which I forgot to bring into this. But like

That's good because you don't need them when we're doing the show. Yeah, but yeah, obviously. I know you make a big, this laundry list for us to follow anyway. But Luke wearing the Don Johnson Miami Vice jacket. I was like, what is he doing? He's had that on from the beginning, right? And even the sleeves were pulled up like Don Johnson. I was like, you couldn't get any more toolbox than that, right?

He probably pulled that jacket out of his toolbox. You can't play a violin with your sleeves down like that. And then, you know what? I was surprised, though, back for that for that training. was how integrated Judith was. Did you notice that? That was cool. Yeah.

I was like, also, I didn't know, I don't, I won't, I won't, I guess I won't go too far in realism here. But I mean, come on, like the seven-year-old, you're going to like have her as a major attack force. Well, I'm with you. Well, it's Rick's daughter, so I think that kind of. Right. And also, uh, I kind of feel like, um, at least to this point, and that's obviously

going to change somewhere in the season. But to this point, Michone doesn't want to be anywhere without her, which is strange because she still has the little kid left at the house too. Yeah, the kid with the smallest personality, I think is imaginable for a kid. Like, kids that age have so much personality. Right. This kid's personality. It's like he's a robot kid or something like that.

Right. I know it's hard to get good child actors, but Judith is amazing. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. I mean, she steals the scenes, right? She does. As a child, you can tell she's got all of her lines memorized.

How old is she? Seven, maybe? I mean, something like that. I can't remember how old she is. She's amazing. She is amazing. Yes, fantastic. And she, you know, she owns the screen.

And in fact, the show that comes on after Walking Dead, she was on last night. Oh, was she? Kirkman said that from the first time that he saw her in a tryout film. He was like, that's her. I haven't seen a, like a young actress like that or actor, for that matter, come out like that out of nowhere. And since, I remember in a Game of Thrones, remember Game of Thrones, the Little Bear? Yeah, yeah. When she stood up and, like, just destroyed everyone and owned the scene.

Yeah. And it was so good that they had, she was going to be a one-off, but they made it to where she. Yeah. And the keeper. But, like, same exact, same exact level. Like just. Yes. She is around nine in the show.

No, no, no. I mean, but alive. Oh, the actress? Yeah. That's what you were supposed to be looking up with us. Because that's what someone's pressing. She's so young and she's so powerful on screen. That's what, and that's something fear should learn from.

Whoever's doing the cat, I don't know, is the person that's casting doing both? Yeah, I don't know. Probably. Probably some of it anyway. I don't know. But that's something fear could use. 12. She's 12. What fear is doing is that's the trainee to the actual cast.

director that takes care of walking dead. Yeah. In fact, it might not even be the trainee. It just might be the helper. Yeah. The intern. The understudy. Then we had the king and Jerry

opened the door to the ship. You know, it was fun as they get the ship. That was a big deal, you know, during their practice and killing, you know, killing the walkers and Magna's still looking good. Yeah, she's looking good. Magnus still looking good. So it's about time for her to hook up with the preacher. Hurry off.

Any second. I'm not going to say anything. I think that instantly clears the preacher from any kind of relationship with her. Even though she's up with that British chick, right? Yeah, she's with Yuma Kope. Yeah. And so then we had, you know, Jerry, we show Jerry and his brood. Good to have Jerry back.

Again, another from day one. Instantly one of my favorite characters. I know. Jerry's awesome. And then we go into chapter two. We have the, you know, skin. Yeah, because the, the, uh, RJ was picking up shells and then he dumped the bucket and there was the skin in there. And also we found out that there were some other earworms in the bucket as well.

Like there were some teeth from jaws, the jaws movie, stuff like this silly stuff. And they're called Easter eggs. That's just, whatever. They're not Easter eggs, they're shark teeth. Duh. Duh. And I never got why that was such a huge, like, Pucker factor.

They just love it. No, not for that. but the mask. Because I mean, like, we're pulling out messages and bottles that are like 80 years old, you know, like that wash up on the shore. So like there's no way to like tell how long that thing had been in the ocean. Right. So why is it like, oh my God, it means instantly.

The skin showed up there back and they're alive. I know. Like, yeah, I didn't get that either. Come on. And then we found that one camp after they were out. I didn't get that either why that was such a big deal. But they, you know, they made it into a big deal. And then they found the, they found the,

We found the camp. Actually, before we found the camp, we had Michone and Aaron. And he was, Michone and Aaron, they were just on the bridge. At the border. Yep. Yeah, Aaron being a doofus. Although you love that line. I do.

I'm sick of being nice. I'm sick of being G.D. Nice. Is that what he said? Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I mean, I agree with them. I don't blame him. And Michone said she was too.

right but sadly we know that we're losing michelle this season so i keep waiting for what's going to trigger her to go away and how is she you know how is she we got to trigger her to just leave and leave the kids too it's going to be really weird why is she hanging out at uh why was she hanging out at hill or not uh what's the ocean side so much that's where they were training is that really the only reason or they just like i think so i think her i think her and darrell were just there because of the training, yeah. I guess that makes sense. You know, when she leaves,

I guess, is Father Gabriel taken Alexandria? He is part of the, he is head of the council. Yeah? No, remember, Father Gabriel is head of the council. She's just head of security. Remember that. That's just so boring.

Yeah. Like, Father Gabriel is boring. I know. Unless he's not Egan, but we'll get with that later. What will happen is it's going to be Negan, right? That'll never happen. I don't know. If he takes Alexandria, I might riot.

That's, there's, I, oh my gosh. I'm telling you, I love the Negan character so much. But if he takes Alexandria, after everything that happened, I'm not on board with that. Really? Yeah, I'm not on board with that. Okay, what if he's on, do your own thing? He could be on the council. No, no.

Be the guy, be free. You know, come and go as you want, whatever, be the personality. But if he's in any way involved in the governing of any of the community. Now, that's true. That's true. I'll give you that. And that's kind of, that's kind of, that's kind of, his character in the comic books too, right?

Free. Except that he doesn't have, he doesn't do anything with the people really, right? So that would change in the show where he wouldn't be governing, but they would still, like Judith and Father Gabriel

would come to him for advice. I'm all about that. Yeah, come and go, go kick some A, you know, whenever you have to, you know. Can't wait till he meets beta. We got confirmation on the show that comes on after that this season

there will be a Negan beta meeting there are, wow, you think the meeting? I don't know if it's the meeting but it is a meeting and if it is the meeting I am going to flip. You know what's going to piss me off

is since I, I thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I did too. Pretty much enjoyed everything. The only, which is such a departure from just a few weeks ago I know, I know. There wasn't, there wasn't, there was very few scenes

in this episode that I wasn't really involved in watching. You know, I mean, I enjoyed it the heck out of it. Yeah, and even the, and even this is a, this is a kind of, if I can compare and contrast a little bit from fear, the satellite thing, if that would have happened in fear, it would have served no purpose. Like they would have done it just would be, oh, it would be cool, you know, we have a satellite crash and we put up the fire.

That'd been the only thing. Then that's it. And nothing would have come from it. This specifically was so that they would have a reason to get caught crossing the border. Yeah. So there's always a reason in this show. It's just so crazy how it's such a different. Yep.

I know. I don't think Alpha would get that mad for them crossing the border to put out the fire, but I think that just stared down at the end of the episode kind of was like, why are you on this side? Yeah. Oh, yeah. We'll get to that. I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. Are you going off of something specific that happened in the comics? Carol's dead at this point in the comics. No, no, I'm not talking about that stare down. I'm talking about did they cross the, border for something frivolous and beta and alpha not care? Oh, actually, they, after the border scene, they don't cross the border at all in the comics.

Negan's the one to cross the border. Oh, really? Negan, someone, he was still locked up in the cage at this point. And someone let him escape. And then that kid who was probably a teenager at that point in the comics, Negan knows about the whispers. So as soon as they're about to cross the border, Negan's like, thanks, kid. Stabs the kids.

It makes it looks like the whispers killed him because he was near or across their borders. The Negan goes across the borders. Okay. I want to see more of that, Nigan. Yes, me too. I'm with you on that. I'm with you on that. I don't want Farmer Negan that's completely bought in.

Which happens in the comics as well. But I feel like that is his ruse to. I hope you're right. Now, he's still on our side in the comics. So. Yeah, yeah. But he still got his, I don't, I'll, you know, I'll smoke somebody if I have to. Right.

You know, just to save myself or to improve my situation. Right. The only person we know that he's not going to smoke is Judith. Yeah. That's how I want to keep it. Yes. Anybody else's fair game. You know what I'm saying? He's not.

Judith stays alive all costs no matter what. Yeah. And if I have to take out Father, actually, yes, please, take out Father Gabriel. Oh, and then what's in the? Oh, then we have, then we hear the noise after, oh, then we have Judith telling R.J. about the Brave Man's story. Oh, whatever. That was a good.

I actually like that. A little nod to Rick. Yeah, and Michelle coming over, being mom and playing with whatever. And then we had the satellite. Then we hear a sonic boom and we hear the satellite crashing through the atmosphere. Get over. Get over with your little mommy thing. I got it.

Then we hear a satellite crashing through the atmosphere. Well, that was, that was, now, okay. I found it fascinating how they tied the chapters together like that when we were in the different areas to see what the other, what the other areas were doing, right? Because originally, when the Oceanside sees the sap coming through the atmosphere, you're like, holy crap. And then we go to, we go to Alexandria. And I'm thinking, so they don't see the satellite burning?

What's going on? You didn't know they set back in time? And then, yeah, then you realized that it was, you know, pre-burned. Yeah. Which I found fascinating. So then the next chapter you realized was you already knew that that was going to be pre-burned too. So they were all tying it together. It was done well.

I got no complaints. So while we were in Alexandria, now we move on to Alexandria and we have. I tell you what, we actually blew over the Carol Daryl. Well, I was just going to say, yeah. That's later in the episode. No. Well, I mean, Negan and Lydia Chab. when they were at Alexandria.

Lydia. You don't, you think she's the traitor now. I don't like her at all. I don't like her at all. Alpha's daughter. Agonizing. Oh, you think that you, I don't know that I think that she's a traitor.

He's just trying to push on what he did with Edith. He's just, and what happened to Edith? Anyway, she got killed. She died. She died on the pike. She was on the pike. So we've yet to find out

the traitor that she was. But we will. It'll come out. It'll still out. You're just waiting. Niggins will say it. You know what? Nogne will say, it's too bad I don't have her to tell me anymore.

It'll be something like that. She used Niggins' little birdie. I'm still on board. Tell it. Still on board. But, yeah, we had Negan and Lydia chat. And then we had the, you know, Father Gabriel, the regurgitated bird wisdom, which was funny.

That's good lines from Nagan. Then, of course, we had Rosita, Eugene, Gabriel, and Siddique. I had the baby with Rosita. Oh. That was kind of agon. Isaac. Well, I knew she was pregnant. So, of course, she would give birth by this point. Okay, I take back what I said. I thoroughly enjoyed

the entire thing. That part was stupid. Because she did finally have the kid, and it was the... Then Eugene's just taking all the notes. I love the father. No father from last season. It just makes me laugh even more. Father not the father. Father not. That's so good. Yeah.

Come on. What about Eugene taking... I know. I know. Measuring the baby, taking notes, keeping everything on track. And then we have Sadiq. Eugene, that was the... only saving grace to that because it's just because he's we can laugh at him but the entire scenario I forgot about that

from last season was just the love triangle was dumb yes it is it was at the time I mean it might not be now because you know once you're pregnant you know go take a hike and then we have Siddique then we have Sadiq taking care of the baby and then he's

suffering PTSD yeah no kidding with the help of you know the being gods from the that guy's got to go Oh, yeah, what a weird. That was a weird doctor. That guy's got to go.

He's never, he's brand new this season, right? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, that was odd. That was odd. That was a point. But it could have just been his mind making it weird too because he was suffering from the PTSD. That could have been it. Whatever.

And then Carol shows up on the boat. Oh, yeah. We had to chapter, I think, four sea dogs. Sea dogs. And then we have a Daryl and, well, actually, first up. So what is she? So she's just been going out on these fishing trips to kind of like stay away from. And I think one was to find Mackie.

I think that was one, but I could be wrong. No, I think, which is what Daryl said. Daryl said that Daryl teased her looking to find out where Alpha went. Oh, yeah. And she could, you know, said, I don't want nothing to do with that anymore. Uh-huh. She's just hiding pretty much. It feels like it.

Oh, and then before that, we have the sisters on the beach. Because she's still alive. Yeah, right. We'll talk about that. the deaf girl and the sisters and they give the Easter egg Yeah, I know. Being deaf is a superhero movie.

Because she said being deaf is a superhero and that person was... I'm not... I haven't fully bought in that that's a female. We proved this. Max and I had a fight about it last night. We proved this. We didn't prove anything.

But she just signed a deal to be one of the next superheroes in one of the Marvel movies. So that was a nod to them for that. But then, okay, what's wrong with Kelly? Okay, Connie's the deaf one. And then Kelly is the partial. I'm sorry. If the next superhero is in a wheelchair, we ride.

No, I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about your insistence that the, the, the Kelly is a dude. Oh, well. Kelly's a dude. Look at the screen. Anyway. Oh, and then we have a little hint with, uh, with her, with Connie and, uh, Daryl. Yeah, but that, that was kind of weird, though, back to that.

So that's a hereditary issue with them that slowly, gradually over time takes their hearing? I guess. Well, the actress, you're going to, the actress who plays Connie, the deaf one, is actually deaf. Right. And the actress who plays Kelly is actually partly deaf. What's up? Did they not want actors to actually act this way? They want to get the people.

You can't. We need to, yeah, we need a guy that's struggling. struggling with his weight and really wants to be a walker and he also has a radio show. Let's just get Jeffie, you know, instead of getting an actor. Wait. Wait, I believe that's a tremendous idea. But then we have the little flirty hints with Daryl and Connie. Well, I mean, Daryl, you can't be out on that beach for so long without thinking a little business.

That's right. Well, here's the thing. Then I realize something. Daryl hasn't done anything like that throughout the entire. show. Well, that we know of. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. That's not his character, right? I mean, his character is, you know, is different. Yeah. And of course, he tells her that she likes, a dog likes her more.

Yeah. I mean, that's, that's just, that's just, do you have predictions the dog's going to die this season? I tell you what, the relationship stuff is kind of agonizing. I know. I know. I don't, but on the other hand. That's got to be Kang throwing that crap. On the other hand, probably. Kang wrote this entire episode. But on the other hand, well, there you go. But on the other hand, it is what I guess would happen, right, in real life?

I mean, when you're... Sure. I mean... But I don't know. The Walking Dead never felt like a soap opera to me, really? Love dry. But like it's... But we did have...

We started out with, you know, Rick's brother. the wife. I was going to say the same thing. Yeah. That's how it started. I was like, we did have that element in there, but still, it didn't feel like a soap opera to me. But these feel like a soap opera. Oh, then we had Carol come in and then say hi to the king, and then say hi to Daryl, and then they went traveling.

Yeah, they're out just getting to know each other again by killing walkers and be out in the woods. And then Carol gets mad at Daryl because they wouldn't grab the deer across the border. Yeah. Yeah, Daryl. froze up at the border to get the deer.

Pretty amazing. I mean, look, you got to honor your word, right? I mean, that's what you have to do. Now, would it have been a big deal to drag the deer back across? Probably not, but you got to honor your word, right? What did you think of that, Jason? The deer scene?

Yeah. Whatever. I mean, it showed, I guess it just showed, I don't know if it's the fear that they had for the whispers. So it kind of like, it helped too, create that sense. Yeah. And that,

but that people are conflicted, are starting to get conflicted. I know. That's like this, I think this built right on to the, what's his name? Guy with the fake arm. Aaron.

Aaron scene. Like that, that was exactly this. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost like they're, while they've spent their, you know,

they're already afraid of trying to survive and now they have to be afraid again about going past a border, you know, it's almost, they're in their own. restricted prison. Yeah. Yeah, it's tiring.

So there are people that are scared, but there are some people that are tired of the arrangement. Yeah. So they're building the scene of revolt. And it was kind of cute when Daryl's out with Carol and there do the little bracelets. That was a funny scene where Darrell calls her, his best friend. Carol's just like, what are we in high school again? She kind of took that little bit too far.

I was like, I was like for there, she was five minutes into her teasing him about it. And I was like, dang, they're still. do it. Still on it. It's still going on it. Okay. But that's honestly something best friends would do to each other. Let's be honest here. Their relationship is one of my favorite. Oh yeah, Daryl and Carol and great. Straight up. And then we go into, you know, the satellite crash, right? The sat crashes. And we get the big fire and we have to cross the border to put the fire out and save what we have. So was Eugene more worried about the fire and the potential for what the fire would do? Or was he more worried about not getting to it to get extract.

I couldn't tell. I think he was more worried about trying to extract the satellite. That's what you thought at the end. Yeah, I heard the feeling like that felt that way. And of course, you know, we know that while it could have probably been okay with crossing the border to put that out, but the, you knew that, you know, the sound and the fire is going to attract walkers. And that's a lot of the whisperers heard, right?

That wasn't a lot of the herd. And when we went back to where the herd was, the herd wasn't there. I know that because the herd, you know, she, they're the nomads, right? So they've got the herd someplace else. But when you round up walkers for a herd, you need walkers. You need to replenish those ranks once they start getting killed off. Yeah. I mean, it just seems, you know, it was kind of strange.

And then we had, I did like as a. you know, Darryl and Carol are out walking and they're just kind of checking it out. And then we... Darryl leaves and we see Alpha. Yeah. That was really good.

It was like, you know, well, it was like you know, she came out of the cave or wherever she was at down there in the valley. And she believes that she's all alone and it's okay. And this is, you know, Alpha land.

And Carol's up top. staring at her and she finally sees Carol and it's, oof. I want that. That's what Carol was hiding from though, right? Carol isn't necessarily Carol's more hiding from herself. Yeah. Right? I mean, she's more, she's

more hiding for herself because she knows, at the flick of a switch, she goes back to being the carol we want her to be. She wants to be the wild like, she doesn't want to be tied down, but that's what she's found herself in with the king. Well, she's not with him that anymore, I don't think. Every time she's been tied down, it's led to

a child dying. So she's like, I don't want to do this anymore. And it makes perfect sense for, I guess, the inevitable hookup that's going to happen later on in the season. Wait, what? The hookup between the king and Michone. You think that's going to happen? We already saw the preview of that, right?

Yeah, we saw the preview of that, right? Oh, yeah. And I don't know if it ends up all-out business. or if it ends up with a slap in the face after the kiss. Me too. Part of the Me Too movement in Mother's Dead, which wouldn't surprise me. No, not with these courage showrun. Yeah, except Carol and the King aren't anything in the comics since Carol had been dead at this point.

Right. It has always been the King and Michone in the comics. Right. And again, I think maybe that's what, that's going to be. be one of the things that makes Michone go away, right? Is maybe she starts to have these feelings for the king, and

the king has feelings for her, and then she realizes that she still loves Rick, and maybe even Darrell says we never even found his body. We don't know if he's, we don't even, we can't even say that he's dead. Because that's what Darrell was doing for the longest time,

right, trying to find his body out there. And he never did. So and maybe that's what Carol was out doing, to, you know, floating around out there in the Atlantic, wondering where Rick is. I cannot wait until that miniseries. I wonder if they'll ever hint. It's a trilogy. It's a movie trilogy.

I wonder. Whatever you want to call it. Thanks for stopping, Scott Gimple. Whatever they call it, I wonder if they're ever going to hint back to the main group, you know, if he's still alive. I'm so curious if they're going to do that. Well, I think they almost have to, right? You think?

I don't know. Because wouldn't they? You'd think that that group would risk everything to just drop everything and head off to go get him? I don't know. I don't know. Now, I think I have an idea on what Rick could look like in this series. So they could either keep the way he looked with the beard and the gray hair, or what we've never seen, full gray Rick, clean-shaven.

How do you think that would look? I don't know. Time hasn't really passed yet, really, for him. be full gray? He's already full gray. He was already full gray. Was he really? Yeah.

It was pretty close, but I don't know that. I mean, there's only been in a few months, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. At most a year. Right. I don't think it's been more than a year. What?

F's in between all out war and then when season nine started? Because we've had, no. No, when Rick died. Since Rick died to now. To now. It's been like seven. It was like a seven-year time jump. Was it really?

Oh yeah, because the little kid. Because remember, Judah? Oh, that's right. It was like a seven year time jump. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Don't lose your attitude with me. No, talk down to me.

Because you're wrong. You're wrong. Yeah, so he might be for long gray, actually, at that point. And then we had my, I think one of my favorite lines was you genius. You genius. It was funny. Mr. You know, Mr. Satellite.

looking for everything you genius over there. But we, and so now, you know, that, I mean, episode one was, was pretty darn good. Yeah. I mean, if we keep it up, if we keep it up,

then we're, you know, it's worthy, right? They're gonna, the only way they're gonna start pissing me off is if they do these extended, you know, these, those throwaway episodes, you know,

where they, nothing happens. You can tell us, yeah, it's just a filler, just trying to extend. And you're looking like, sometimes fillers work, but sometimes they do. don't. It really depends. Yeah.

It's like, I guess I'm just more sensitive to it because fear was just one solid extended filler episode. I know. And you know that's what, you know, we got one of our listeners on Facebook talked about, so if the Russian satellite causes instability between the whisperers and the

communities, I'm afraid one of the writers from fear made their way to the main show. But I don't think so because that was the point of the satellite, right? I mean, that was the whole point of the satellite so that they had to cross the border to save themselves, right? So actually, it'll take it.

You'll really know that it's the Hollywood riders that are, you know, starting to tank things. If they start saying that the whispers were colluding with those Russians. Ah, thank you. And they made that thing to influence the situation. Thank you. And who didn't start thinking about fear when Darrell and Carol were talking about riding into New Mexico, you know, taking a trip to New Mexico?

I mean, that's just, that's all fear. Yeah, yeah. That's all running into fear. Thinking about no more fighting anymore. And you're like, no, that's not what's going on, bro. God, they better not be setting up another departure. I know. They better not be.

I know. And then we had a... This show could not lose Carol and Daryl. Oh, no way. No. Cannot. Oh, no way. No way.

I mean, they might... No. I don't even want to think about any of the other. Then we had them trying to put out the fire with all their little cool equipment. And then... I will say this, though. Sorry. I will say this, though.

That would say fear, I think. Oh, my gosh, yes. Like, that would, if they really want to go back to this, both shows are basically the same with characters and both. Like, you could even take one character from fear and bring it over to walking. John Dory. To really make that, like, feel that feeling, hey, you can watch either show because they're basically the same thing.

Right. That would really cement that. And I would watch fear, even if it was just a bunch of fear, filler episodes. Yeah. I don't know. That's conspiracy talk. I hope that's not what's happening, but. Actually, AMC, don't listen to any of that, what I just said.

Do not listen. And then we had a Carol put out the fire by slitting the walkers throat open. Yeah, yeah, the fire extinguisher. I mean, there were some great deaths, and there was some great walkers. I mean, throughout the whole episode, they really worked hard at doing that for the episode, which was great. It was very enjoyable. So next week they talk about the episode is called We Are the End of the World. and the description is the origins of Alpha and Beda are revealed.

No, I'm happy about this. And Alpha attempts to toughen up Lydia as they prepare to walk with the dead and the whispers create their herds. So if Alpha is attempting to toughen up Lydia, then this is pre. Yeah, this is a flashback. What's now? And then they're preparing, the whispers are going to create their herd. So it's time for them to get the, you know, this is all just a flashback of the whisperers.

Which I'm happy about. because I'm going to say this right now, and a lot of people have been saying this too, the Whispers are like two times better in the show than they weren't the comics. That's what a lot of people have been saying. Why is that? The Whispers really didn't get a lot of development in the comics.

They were just the bad guys. They were cool, especially beta, but Alpha didn't get, like, Alpha in the comics was like, oh, hey, she's the bad guy. Oh, hey, she's dead. I'm not opposed to that now. So this is why it's going to suck because Kirkman's not writing it.

So anytime they try to go off script, it sucks. Pretty much. Like 90% of the time, these showrunners go off, it sucks. All right, let's hope that doesn't happen. It's a filler episode. The only way I'm going to be happy this time next week is if it's not solid and they intercut. Intertwin them.

What if it's a solid flashback, but it's really good? Well, then that'd be great. But their track record just hasn't been able to prove they can do that yet. Right. We'll see. Right. But also, I'm going to be mad if we don't get any update on what's happening currently. Right.

That is true. Because that's back to fear. We don't know how they're trying to, what they're doing at the satellite, what they're doing at the border, what they're doing, any of that. We get none of that. Yeah. And we don't even get any Oceanside business. Yeah. So thanks for listening.

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