Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S10 E10 | Talking Walking Dead

Episode Date: March 2, 2020

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We'd love to talk. Business. Season 10, episode 10 of the Walking Dead, titled Stalker. That makes this talking walking dead. Welcome to it. Myself, Jeff Fisher, Jason Butchell, and Maximus Fisher, Talking Walking Dead. Episode description on IMDB, the group must defend Alexandria from a threatening outside force.

I wonder what that outside force is. So there are a couple of things during this episode. stalker that, look, I know, I know we've talked about it before on this show, and in particular even, you know, the other dead show. There where we have to, you know, we've... Suspend our disbelief. We've suspended reality. We have to, we've moved down.

We know that it's a show. And so we don't, we expect... People coming back from the dead. Is it real? I know. I know. But there were a couple of things that happened on this episode that was really suspended. Disbelief episode

Throughout the show Now I will say Overall I enjoyed it Jason Dope episode Maximus I really liked it

Now before we get started On talking about The episode As a story in general I need to give props To the director of this episode

Bronwyn Hughes She was great Like those can't You notice the camera angles Were like Really good In this episode Yeah

It was It was done well Yes it was Especially because apparently she did like breaking bad episodes, but this was her first time on bed. No, yeah. Yeah, it was great. Yes, absolutely. She'll be back.

I usually have like complaints, like in all these. Like it's a love-hate thing, you know what I mean? But I had none really from this. I just did it the whole time. All right. So, you know, we we started off with beta going into his tunnel under the Winnebago. Yeah. So El Chapo now works for the whispers.

I was like, what? Or like some other Mexican drug smuggler? I will say that if I'm a whisper, the job I want is the Winnebago job. Yeah. Just sit in there. Just keep an eye on the tunnels. Just sit in the chair. Just sit in the chair waiting for somebody to show up.

That's their one job. Everybody else has to like lay in the dirt. Dig, bring out dirt. Or hoard duty. Or hoard duty. Horde duty must be the worst job. Oh, no, I don't know. I don't want to dig that tunnel, man.

I don't want El Chapo. A tunnel dig in. That's a drug Because they're not I mean you're doing some work Digging tunnels man Yeah how I don't talk about suspension

Dispola how long would that take? A couple days Yeah just a couple days That's it You're in and out He knows how far You know rig up the Winnebago Dig the tunnel

It's a long way right Had to be a long way Yeah That's a serious Because it wasn't There used to be a border Remember And they couldn't cross the border

So this is on the other side Of the border I have to be right So she was as doing Breaking the rules as much as they were. Alpha never made, no, no, she wasn't because the rules were they couldn't cross the border

but the whispers could, remember? Don't bog me down with dead facts. So you guys are wrong on that aspect. But still, okay, so, even so, that's still a long-ass tunnel. Yeah, but even still, it had to have been on the other side of the border because there's no way if it's on their side of the border

and no one noticed. And remember, the tunnel led to the grave in Alexandria. Well, it led to underneath Alexandria, right? Oh, holy cow. No, specifically to the grave that Dante dug. Oh, yeah. So that was the whisperer guy, right? That was the spy in our camp.

Yeah. So he dug that grave, if you remember from when he buried the old lady, he dug that grave. So he knew that that tunnel was the, Dean knew about the tunnel and he dug it there. Yeah. Yeah, he was the El Chapo Guard and in the prison, man. He was the, you just started there. Yeah, yeah. Just started there.

You're good. So we have a timeline. This is two days after. This is two days after Dante died and Siddique. So then we start off with the dream from Rosita, you know, having the baby die, which, you know, Max called it right away. That was a dream sequence, you know, because it was like, no way they're killing the baby, although I would have been happy with that. Oh, come on. Oh, yeah, please.

I want somebody to die. We did, right. That's my motto of these episodes. Someone needs to die. Someone did die. We had, what's your face, die, your girl, the. the whisper girl. Oh, that was your girl.

No, no, not the whisperer. The ex-savior girl with the bar code. Yeah, you texted if she dies. I'm pissed. And then boom, that was the kiss of death. Right there. Yeah, Laura, because five minutes later. No, no, it wasn't.

I just texted you, L.O.L. Hold on. I got to see, because I don't think that was. Laura was a pretty cool character when she was with the Saviors, and then she joined up with our crew after the Saviors were defeated. Yeah. Well, I wasn't talking about her, although I'm okay. I know.

You said barcode girl. She is the one with the barcode on her name. No, and the text message. No, I was, I was looking throughout her text, because there's a couple texts in here I want to get to from last night that, you know, we're really good. But I thought, I originally thought that maybe she didn't die, right? That Beta just threw her up against the cell wall and stuff, and she would still be alive.

Yeah. But I was disappointed with her because she's been around long enough to know she had the she had the she had the knife or the sword or whatever you want to call it to bait his neck she's been around long enough to know to stick that bad boy in

yeah what are you doing right because I know Gabriel gave the order don't kill him so right to keep them alive if you catch them keep them alive because he wanted to pull her teeth out in their toenails and their fingernails and torture them all right

we'll talk about that scene later but yeah but still no way right she's been around long enough to know you're in that close quarters you got to kill. With the number two? You got to kill.

No one really knows beta that much. Everyone knows Alpha. Okay, so you're in close quarters with a giant. Right. Okay. And basically the only scary whisperer they have. Everybody else is like a millennial skinny gene-wearing guy with a mask on. That's it.

Gabriel understood it. And you realize it too. The only whisperers that could actually fight are alpha and beta. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The rest of them fight. Negan even calls it out in the comics when he's surrounded when he first meets beta. He goes, it was all I can kill all of you. Beta might kill me, but I can kill the rest of you. Yeah. No problem. That's speaking of Negan.

Next episode. Ghost Town. We knew it. We called that too. That was even part of Twitter last night looking for, looking for Neegan. Because at the same time, we were all, I think, at some point going, where the heck is? is Negan. How come he's, we haven't seen him at all. Or the king or? Right.

Next episode. We're definitely seeing them. We're not seeing them next episode. I don't know about my shown, but we're definitely seeing the king and Negan next episode. I'll still complain about how they, how they do that. I just hate it.

I know. At least even it doesn't have to be a lot of screen time. The total of just a few minutes screen time. Just shown. Then back in what we were talking about, so, gosh darned. I can out.

Beta shows up in Alexandria, which I love. Figure out that phone thing. I love the scene where Beto puts his hand up through the grave tunnel like Night of the Living Dead. That was awesome. Yes, that was great. And then, you know, when Gamma shows up at Alexandria, I will say that Preacher Man was, you know, looking badass last year. Gabriel was awesome.

I don't care what you say. He signed his death war in so many different ways. Okay. So many different ways. Remove him with Rosita for a second. How was he when he was talking with Gamma in the cell? Out of character, which was great, but that's not. I think that they're signaling that he's gone too far and he's the next to go.

That type of thing he does not exist and where they're taking the show. So he is a goner. Oh my gosh, he's a goner. They couldn't have signaled it more if he would have basically said goodbye to everybody. and then what are you saying goodbye for? Oh, just in case. Just in case. Just in case.

Just in case. Something happens, you know. I might get into a dangerous situation later, you know, and something might happen to me. Which I thought might happen when they ran across gamma and beta on the roads, you know, after gamma got beta out of Alexandria, which I realized that was her plan. But there's another suspend reality. I'm sorry, suspend, what is it?

Suspend disbelief, you know, whatever. Suspension of disbelief. Whatever. Just that, so one moment we're in Alexandria. And the next minute we're miles away in a road. Okay. We've skipped quite ahead in the episode. Yes, we did.

So did they take the tunnel out? I guess so. Okay, so that scene, well, we'll get back to that scene. No, go ahead. Okay, so that scene just happened after Beta was about to kill Rosita. And Gamma was holding the knife to her throat going, Alpha wants me alive, basically kill her, I kill myself. And of course, Beta to a fault is loyal to Alpha.

So he takes her out, right? Everybody else in Alexandria is either dealing with the walkers that Beta had made or is running around trying to figure out where the other people are. Barely anybody, because we saw them run off, is guarding the gates. So they could have just walked right out the front gate. And been miles away a couple of months later. They weren't miles away. They were probably maybe a mile.

And here's the thing. From personal- No, because Gabriel had already figured out. They had no gate guard. Because they all were running off. We saw them run off. And we did. And Gabriel, again, they would not leave the gate.

Gabriel had figured it out when he was out of the road. Remember, he realized there at the last second that no one was really guarding back home. And I'll tell you this from personal experience. None of the hardcore fighters. But, I mean, they would leave, hey, 17-year-old. We need someone to open the gate for it. us when we come back. But at the time that, you know,

walkers were starting to invade the city coming out of houses and stuff, they may have left. The gate. Yeah. Possible. And I'll give you this too. From personal experience,

it doesn't take that long to walk a mile. I know, I know. So went back to Negan not being there. One of my favorite tweets from last night was, uh, where's Neakin? She just had sex with him.

Probably off having afterglow cigarettes. But we never, I mean, we didn't see him. Right? I mean, there was nothing. He's next episode. Still, though. He was in the preview for the next episode. But still, this was too big in an episode.

Ridic. Too much going on without him being somewhere. I mean, Alpha is fighting Daryl. Daryl's off whisperer hunting. And then, you know, we had the, we had the Alpha and Daryl fights, which was great. Oh, that fight scene where, uh, where they're leaning. the where they're leading part of the horde out and then darrell just snipes off a couple of them and gets into a fight with alpha was great it was great and then you know tremendous it was great the only thing that i was like why i missed the part where he got brutally hurt i guess oh he was like what i saw it it was uh right after he swung the knife and cut alpha here she based she used her one of her knives and hit him sliced him right to here cross the face that's why the blood we could That's why the blood was coming down, and that gave her the opportunity to take another knife and stab him in the thigh.

So I got the thigh part. Yeah. But the other part, I was like, why is he so jacked up? It was just out of nowhere all of a sudden. I can find, I'll find after we're done recording, I can show you the scene on YouTube. No need. We believe you. It's all right.

We're not doubting you. It's okay. Calm down. Plus, I was just kind of pissed that Daryl is probably the best fighter outside Beda in the entire, the entire show. Except maybe Negan too. Yeah, and Negan. Good point. I'm like, come on, man.

This is not a fight. Like, you destroy her. I thought so too. I thought so too with that. But even a good fighter can sometimes mess up a little bit and throw that other person can get a lucky shot. Don't try to cover it for Daryl. Don't do it. He screwed up.

But then of the gas station scene with Alpha and Daryl, that whole scene was really good. That whole segment was really good. That was dope where the three walkers came in order. She was banging her shotgun on the wall. And there's so many, I still, okay, speaking of your theme here of suspension disbelief, there's so many times, and we've mentioned this before, about just having a mask on. It works. Makes it to where the walkers suddenly.

I know. So all you have to do to survive the zombie apocalypse guys, write this down, go to party city right now and just buy one of those random, you know. You have to have a mask. It has to make it look realistic. I'm doing a makeup kit. I'm not doing the makeup kit. The mask. You get hard to breathe in, you know?

So, like, you just had a makeup kit. So now, yes, they have. That's all you need. Well, here's the thing, too. One, they probably smell horrible because they even, even some of them, like, even if they don't douse themselves in guts all the time, they still probably smell like it. And the mask is made from actual skin. So that's what they're smelling. That's what they're smelling.

That's what they're smelling. And before you see what it does to your face. That's stupid. Right? I mean, that's almost like a meth mask. on the whispers you start wearing you know

former human skin on your face man your face starts to eat death it's so hilarious it used to be you had to completely douse yourself

in blood I know douse but look there's we also one of the things that we that we

I'm gonna let Max said one of his theories that came to kind of fruition last night and and you wonder what the turn when you turn from human to Walker.

And so beta stuck in the house. The beta was going house to house creating his own little hoard. And the one scene where he cuts their throats and then he gets down on his knees and waits for them to turn. Right. So what makes them turn so fast? So I've mentioned this like once or twice. I already said that.

What makes them turn so fast? I think the more blood you lose the faster you turn. So when he cuts their necks, I mean, they just bleed out, right? He's waiting. You saw the one guy crawling and he's just bleeding out.

You know, blood gushing out. More blood you lose, the faster you turn. And remember, it is an interesting theory. Not sure if it means anything. No, I mentioned this like a while ago because I was like,

he's creating his own horn. How do you know they're going to turn in time to create your own hoard, right? But he's, they've killed enough to know them. Right, Beda knows. I bleed them, they turn. Because if you think about it, how fast did Spencer turn when Negan disemboweled him with all the blood loss?

He turned fast. But if you just get shot here and you bleed a little bit, how long does it take for them to turn? Pretty long. I mean, we've milked several episodes of Carl. Who was Spencer? Huh? Who was Spencer? The guy who wanted to get Rick out of control of Alexandria for Negan to kill him and put Spencer and.

control and Deegan was like no screw it and he got it him with the knife remember he was the guy he was the guy you were like rain man with names of the show I never in season two that transient that walked into Atlanta yeah his name is Joe I remember names okay he was born in Vegas was born in 1994 in Greenland hey I'm 18 you idiot wait I'm 18 wait does Vegas is Vegas gambling 18 or 21 because I just turned 18 I think it is 18. You might be able to get away with it at 18. In fact, we're just good.

We'll just lie. Yeah, we'll just worry about it. And then after we had, I really did at one point think that it was possible. And I don't know why. Because after I thought about it, I'm thinking, no, it's not possible.

They're not going to kill off Daryl. But I thought for the, you know, an instant that they could possibly be killing off Daryl last night. Really? Like after? Because I said if they kill off Daryl, I quit. The show's over.

If they kill Daryl, we're done. This episode would be the final episode of talking Walking Dead. Talk about destroy on your show. I mean, good gosh. I know. When the Walker was almost on top of it, was pretty much on top of him, and he couldn't do anything except pull the knife out of his thigh. That was great.

Yeah, that was dope. Yeah. And when the blood started... That was a Rick move. Yeah, totally. But when the blood started spurting because it was an artery because it was his thigh. and I was like... Which artery was it?

Semoral. Femoral artery. But when he pulled it out and the blood started spurting, he was trying to put pressure on it, and then he was just like lightheaded for a while. I was like, could this be the end of Daryl? He dies from blood loss? No way.

Can you imagine if that's how they killed Daryl? He dies from blood loss because he pulled out a knife from his thigh. And then we had Lydia show up, right, out of the blue. She's been out in the woods. She looks pretty good for being out in the woods all. that time. It looked like she'd bathed, showered, put on a little makeup for the show.

You know, she did there, you know, like somebody's going to be coming to the gas station to pick up something sooner or later. Yeah, you might as well be ready. You never know. Yeah, you just don't. You always want to be prepared. You always want to have clean underwear on. I honestly thought that was a pretty good scene with Alpha and Lydia. It was great. I really am disappointed

that she didn't kill her. Right. As long as we're not going to have the Negan killing Alpha scene, if we're not going to have that, then that would have been the time for her. her to do it, right? Save Darrell, kill Alpha, and move the hell on. Yeah. Her response to Darrell and that was pretty good, though. It made sense. Of course it did. And it was a great scene where if she was close to dying and I'm not here for you, right? Don't even, I'm checking, I'm just

checking you out. I thought I'd just come over and say hello and let you know that I'm going to let you bleed out here on the floor. Yeah. You know, so while we're on that topic, how much you think Lydia weighs. Probably like what, like 80 pounds, 90 pounds? Why? I think she's pushing 3, 400. I could be wrong. I think you're wrong.

I think you're thinking of the last time you stepped on the scale. The actress who plays her is my age. Yeah, that's fine. I got it. I got it. The person who plays Lydia is my age, so she can't be like, she has to be at least maybe 120. Okay.

I doubt it, but females, no, females do not weigh as much as men. So even if, let's say 120. Just say, just say one 20. Okay, let's say, let's say, but I doubt it. She's a husky 18-year-old. But she's not. She really isn't. She's not.

So how much is Darrell away? So, 20? 220, maybe? Yeah, he's these thick, you know, muscled up. There's no way in hell that she got him out of that place with all these walkers around and everything. There were no walkers around. throws him over like she's firemen's carrying him and then heads out. I was like, how did they get over there?

You can't? Did he all of a sudden animate, you know, and walk over? And she just kind of let him over there? Yes, she did. I guess that. I'll actually, on the show that comes on after the show of Walking Dead, Hardwick put out a poll, I think, on Twitter or Facebook going, were you surprised Lydia chose Daryl, chose to save Daryl over Alpha?

And everyone, like 75% of people said, yes, we were surprised. She didn't pick Alpha. And Hardwick was like, really? No. But the poll was kill. You know, pick saving Daryl over killing Alpha because everyone wanted Alpha dead. No, no, no, there was a different poll. There wasn't.

Yes, there was. There were two polls. No, there wasn't. There was the one where were you surprised. There was the poll where it was, should Lydia have killed Alpha? Yes or no. And there was the one where is, are you surprised that she picked to save Daryl over Alpha? Well, anyway, I'm not surprised that she didn't kill her mom.

It makes sense. Yeah, it does. But I, and I guess I'm not really surprised that she told her to save Daryl. The way the whole episodes have progressed with her, others, you know, I wasn't surprised at all. Yeah, he was kind of one of the, basically one of the first ones to come on to her side. Yeah. Makes sense. Did they show in the previews whether she sticks with him?

Yeah. Which is, you know, what else do you think he's doing? Banging on the glass like that? I don't know. Ticking me off. Did he fall or something? It would be a real shame. They might hurt himself.

Chris Cruz, I'm talking about, by the way, just wandering around here in the building, pretending like he's working. So, as long as we're progressing here on talking Walking Dead, I know that we had, it was interesting to see Gamma talk to Judith. Or Judith talking to Gamma in the cell. That was a cute little, little face-to-face with them. So everything with Judith I absolutely adore. I love every scene she's in.

She's such a good actress. And it's always good to see a little more grimes. It's almost like they put that in these shows because they know we don't have any more grimes. I know. So they've one more grimes. They throw in the grimes, you know, factor. And especially like, who else is going to get the best of beta if not for a grimes? Thank you.

I was like, I was actually texting to you from Grimes with love. You know, like right when she put the bullet in him, I know. I know. It was great. That was really great. And I was really bummed that he was wearing the vest. I know. I wanted to have it.

He needed to take a scar home, you know. Right. You know, tattoo Grimes was here. You know, over the scar. I have said this before. I'll say it again. I hope they actually change his death from the comments. comics because Beta's death in the comics was not good.

Yeah, less than fun. And they probably will. I mean, he's become such a big character now. Alpha's death, amazing. Don't change it. Beta's death, change it. Yeah. So I'm guessing that he probably will.

And although it would be a while for him to die, right? I mean, everybody wants Alpha to die. And we'll just let Beta could go off and be his crazy self in the woods with the whispers as long as, you know, leave us alone. Go wander around in your horde for a while. That's fine. Which doesn't happen, but... Right.

And then, I do love the... A little love story between Father Gabriel and Rosita. Oh my gosh. Can me please make it stop? Here's the thing. Ridiculous. Rosedica's on... I was honestly a little expecting Beda might have killed Rosita.

I was honestly expecting that. Yeah. I'm kind of... Yeah, she was high on my death list for a while because I thought that she... I think she was... Didn't she have a kid recently and... Yeah. She, remember, she had the kid.

Well, in the show, but in real life. In real life. So, yeah, I just assumed that she was, she would probably be looking for her. Here's the thing. She's on borrowed time in the show, because guess what? She was on the Pikes in the comics. She was one of the pike victims. Yeah, but she was, they weren't going to, I mean, she's now become an Alexandria

and a little favorite, right? She's been around for a while, so, you don't want her to die. But I really did think that they were going to have her die with Beda. I mean, there's no way she beat the Beda. But she didn't. Which she didn't. Correct. Gamma saved her life. Yeah. Hey, Max, so after Hilltop falls, do they all go to Alexandria?

Pretty much. So I was about to say that. I don't think Alexander could lose another big personality. Right. So I was like if Rosita dies and who else do you have those like big personalities? So if you interrupt me one more time, I'm going to throw this thing at you. Sorry. But what I'm saying is maybe that can help us predict a little bit deaths if they're going to let some of these people go. if we're just about to have,

because that's what's happening the next episode, right? Right. It looks like Hilltop's going down. Maybe have more people that can kind of care. Actually, I'm looking forward to that. Because if they have more of these people centrally located, we won't maybe won't have some of these, like,

you know, complaints that we have of. I don't know. I don't know. If they all go to Alexandria, then, you know, an episode is going to be, you know, address 517, Alexandria Drive. The whole episode is just going to be that house. Well, after Hilltop Falls, a few of them,

not the main, main, ones, but a couple of them stay behind to start rebuilding Hilltop. But after that, mainly they all are in a central group. I'd love it. Right. I'd absolutely love it. And then maybe we'll have, uh, what's her name? Dead.

Alpha dead. And maybe then we'll have Negan back at the. I think, I'm not making a full prediction, but I think she might die next episode. Remember the last time you predicted that? I know, no, no, no. No, I, I know. That's why I said it's not a full prediction. I'm not making the same mistake I made for the mid-season.

Okay, Raid, man. Because in the preview, we saw Negan and Alpha together again in alone in the woods. We saw another of those two together again. It might be a little bit. What they just hook up, what the now booty calls for each other? Yes. I mean, Alpha's like, I mean, it might as well, right?

Does my true skin? Disturb you. Still haven't got that image out of my head. It's great. And I also saw where, in real life, Norman Rebus was giving Jeffrey Dean Morgan a hard time for not going fully nude in that scene. Are you serious? Rebus said, you know, I've been nude a couple times during this show. Filming of this show.

Why did you just go all out? Has he? Calling him a plus. Remember when he was locked up in the cell? He was completely Was he nude there? Yeah Yeah

Okay The story goes They even asked him Are you sure you don't want to wear a sock or anything? And he was like nope I'm going for it Full money It's part of the show

And those of us that have been on episodes like that It's just time to do it Oh yeah you just go for it You just go for it So And again no Moshone No Mishon No Mishon

No Nigen Which I don't really care about the Mishone stuff Because we know she's leaving and I don't really care about the plot of it. Just to get over it. Yeah. In fact, her on episode with her struggles and her leaving is going to bog us down.

And it's going to be the entire episode. I know. The entire episode. I just was thinking that it's going to be the entire episode. So it's just going to bog us down. And it's going to be after maybe like if Max's predictions correct, like something huge like that. Then you want to find out, oh my gosh, what happens next? Cut to Michelle on the desert island.

Yep. It's going to be the bog down of Michelle. Because that's exactly. what's going to happen. They have the names of the episodes coming on. I bet you we can guess. I found the names of the episodes. Okay.

So next episode is called a Morning Star. Morning Star, right? But that's going to be the battle at Hilltop, right? And I did enjoy the preview that we saw on a show that comes on after the show that comes on after Walking Dead on AMC. Hardwick must be pissed. I know. But he's back right after next week, by the way. So, you know, good for him.

But they set up a big, an electrical fence with a truck and a, you know, a pile of old batteries that they have, which starts zipping walkers with the electrical fence, which is really cool. That was awesome. That was awesome. Really cool. But, you know, obviously it's not going to last long and you're going to suck. You know, all those walkers hit the electrical wire just sucks the juice out of the batteries. So hilltop's going down.

No, hilltop's going down. We may lose some people there, too. We still have. We got King. We got Jerry. We got some other people there that we could lose next week. Dude, you better knock on some wood. You mentioned the J word.

So anyway, next week. We could also lose the preacher man too, maybe next week too, right? No, I'm thinking you might die in episode 15. So next week is Morning Star. The week after that is walk with us. Okay. The next episode after that is... That's them going back to Alexandria.

What's next? What we become? Oh, that might be it. What's next? After that one, I'm scared. Season 10, episode 14, after what we become, is look at the flowers. Oh. That might be a Carroll episode because of the name of that.

Yeah. The reason I said Gabriel might die in episode 15 is because episode 15 is called the Tower. That's his baby, right? And that's when he dies in the comics is when he's on the tower. and then after that is Season 10, episode 16, A Certain Doom. That's the end, that's the finale?

That's the finale, a certain doom. Yeah, and then start, then that week also starts the new Dead show. World Beyond. World Beyond. I know. I know. I know.

I'm questioning it too. I mean, it seems like it's, may or may not be good. Hopefully it's not another fear. You know, I'll watch the first episode is to see if my suspicions are correct. I have a three episode.

They had the one guy that stars in it on talking, on the other talking show last night. Oh, really? And he talked about the, he is one of the, he's one of the lead guys. You know, the Rick Grimes, if you will, of that show. And I'll just let you know that when he explained

what kind of guy he is, he loves, he was adopted by the old guy at their, they, there, there, There are a group of people that have been protected, but they're younger, right? So their life has pretty much been after civilization fell. So the old guy prior to them had taken in this guy and raised him with his two daughters, who this guy loves as his sisters, but they're not really brother and sister. And the guy took him in and basically adopted him in in the real world after.

his father kicked him out because he was gay. Oh, come on. Come on. Of course. I know. Gotta. I know. I know.

I know. I know. I thought the same thing, though. The way he said it, it didn't seem like that he just said it really fast and he didn't linger on it. If that was the case, maybe they won't push it down our throat. I don't know. If this turns out, watch, it's going to be like. Yeah, we didn't want to do another zombie film

to go out and kill zombies. We just wanted to make sure that our, you know, protagonists, their vision is to bring social justice to the zombie apocalypse. So you can kill a zombie, just got to make sure that you're doing it, you know, with the right, what do they call it, intersectionality. You know what I mean? I hope that is not the case. Please, dear Lord.

I want to bow our heads and pray for a moment because I'd like to pray that that is not the case. Oh, my gosh. now seriously buy your heads for real for real man oh that is just tough to take

so so gamma's come around now rosita and gamma our big buds now as they hop in their pickup truck wagon train

pickup truck bed wagon train which I love and off they go into the new world and and Alpha is still alive wakes up still alive

and you knew that with her experience with Lydia even at the end of the show when she says we are the end of the world I have that whole speech memorized I know that in the whole thing of course you do I mean you know that

she is going to be you know hell to pay now doesn't matter nothing matters now her daughter who she kind of kept her grounded a little bit who she thought was at Alexander Andrea, but was off in the, you know, she was off in her woods, but she was still, you know, alive and part of part of the deal. She kind of kept her grounded a little bit.

And she wanted her to kill her to become the new alpha. It's over, right? I mean, she has nothing to grab onto now. I mean, she's just going to be whacked out of her mind forever. Maybe Negan, because Negan's able to get to her, but other than that. I mean, the only reason Negan's around now is for a little alpha bit. And that's it. Except it's Negan and he's able to mess with people.

people's minds. I know. I know. So next week we have Morning Star and that's Hilltop and they've got to, according to IMDB, the whispers are coming for Hilltop after Daryl and Lydia's encounter with Alpha. The communities must decide whether to run or fight Eugene's communication with Stephanie gets complicated. Oh, so we're going to have Eugene talking to talk about more Commonwealth stuff. Yeah. Wow. You're excited for the Commonwealth stuff. I am. I am too. I am. Yeah, I think that'll be Cool. You know, another person we haven't heard of when you said Eugene, I thought of, what's his name? You know, the guy that was part of Magnus Group that went off to Oceanside?

Oh, yeah. That's another guy we haven't heard of, and I assume. He's the next episode. We saw him in the preview. Oh, really? Yeah, he is. Him and Eugene are in the next episode. I wonder if he, it still seemed like they're sitting him up to die.

I know. We love Luke, too, but. Do we? Well, I like him. You don't like him that much because of his. I do not. It's agonizing. The music, him being a music teacher. He is agonizing.

That's unbelievable. All right. So, all in all, great, you know, good episode. We're looking for moving forward. Hopefully we don't, we're not going to get bogged down with a Mishon episode here after the big war next week. And that's very possible, though. So keep your fingers crossed.

I couldn't really decipher that from the names, though. I couldn't decipher which one was which. I know. There's not a description on the names? No, no, it was just the names. Yeah, there's no description yet. So thanks for listening to Talking Walking Dead. I appreciate it.

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