Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S10 E14 | Talking Walking Dead

Episode Date: March 30, 2020

TITLED: Look at the Flowers   THIS IS TALKING WALKING DEAD With myself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill & Maximus Fisher  EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB Heroes and villains reckon with the aftermath of t...he Hilltop fire; Eugene takes a group on a journey to meet Stephanie, with the hopes of befriending another civilization. We also discuss the aftermath of the Coronavirus screwup for AMC and The Walking Dead Join us each week after the newest episode as we discuss the latest happenings and what the future may hold. We know the future holds four episodes left in season ten…Join us for the ride…  Subscribe on YouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Season 10, episode 14 of the Walking Dead, titled Look at the Flowers. And that makes this talking Walking Dead. Now, if you're watching on YouTube and you don't hear the Walking Dead music, that's because you can only hear it on the podcast. You can't hear it on the YouTube channel. Sorry, that's the way it is. Welcome to it with myself, Jeff Fisher and Jason Buttrill and Maximus Fisher. Episode description on IMDB, Heroes and Villains Reckon with the Aftermath.
Starting point is 00:00:51 of the hilltop fire. Eugene takes a group on a journey to meet Stephanie with the hopes of befriending another civilization. Welcome to it, talking walking dead. Before we get to, we gave Maximus some homework last week to give us some recap on a few of the cookies from last week's episode. I just want to give a quick round on Jason. What did you think of this episode this week? I thought it was good. I had a whole lot of questions. There was a lot of big reveals, which we'll get to. But, yeah, this has really opened up more questions that I wasn't really thinking about before, but I'm thinking about now.
Starting point is 00:01:30 So I've been very impressed with all these episodes. They keep, you know, kind of leading to, you know, greater things. And I mean, the leadership at AMC is doing good job. Are they? No, we'll get to that voluntarily. Yeah. I disagree with that wholeheartedly. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:01:51 He's just been leading trinkles of this all week. Okay, so what did you think of the episode? I honestly thought it was a pretty good episode, especially some of the reveals. Some of the reveals were pretty good this episode. Okay. So, give us last week's recap of the cookie. So last week, some of the, we found out what the, or at least I did, you guys didn't do your research. No, we left it to you. Get to it.
Starting point is 00:02:17 We passed that up. What Virgil gave Moshone was actually. something called Jimsonweed, which is an actual drug in the world, and it's one of the most hallucinogenic drugs in the world. You have to tell me. Go ahead. That's in the garden in the backyard, right, Jeff? Yeah. Did you bring some in the show? It is not.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Then there is, during the flashback when she was trying to hitchhike and Daryl just left, she was wearing the orange backpack, which. That thing is apparently synonymous with a curse in the show. Because first was the original hitchhiker who had it. Then he died. They found it. And pretty much anyone who's worn it has either died or has been close to death. Oh, nice. Because first time was, let's see, Daryl wore it.
Starting point is 00:03:11 And then when he was wearing it, that was when Denise got shot by Dwight. Then Glenn wore it. We all know what happened to him. And then... Oh, yeah. You don't want to be Glenn. And then in... In the flash, in the hallucination,
Starting point is 00:03:25 Michelle Ward, and she got shot by Daryl. Weird. Is this some weird, like, I don't know, what are they calling, the Easter egg or something like that? Yeah. How crazy. Anything else? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:36 And also, another thing is the phone with the drawing. With the drawing. Which we think is a screw up, right? That or something along the lines of Rick or whoever drew that had seen them recently. Okay. There was actually something on the phone written there, and I think it said still believe, or like, still hold on and believe or something along those lines. So pretty much saying, like, still believe Rick is alive or something like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:04 So. Was that in a different language, wasn't it? Japanese. Okay. I mean, Rick was just fluent in Japanese. I don't think. Everyone knows that. I don't think it was Rick just talking Japanese.
Starting point is 00:04:18 You know what, though? I don't think it was Rick. I don't think it was right. It might have been Jadis. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the attractive lady could have done it. Why would she do that? I mean, she helped Rick, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And also, when we were, when Michone was flipping through the pages on the book, on the book with all the places the boat has been, I don't know if that's before or after the apocalypse, so we think after, and we think one of them, we remember one of them was New Jersey. Right. One of them was Tampa Bay. Oh, nice. Back to a little Florida news for Tampa Bay. Nice.
Starting point is 00:04:55 And that's all right now. So back to that phone. I wonder if that'll be in another episode or not, I guess it won't be another episode. Maybe the movies. Maybe in the movies, yeah. I'm surprised we didn't get a, like, turn the phone on. Maybe he recorded himself saying something. You know, power it up.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm not sure if it would work or even be charged. Well, some would think that. you, but then everything else works and still has power, so you figure the phone does too. Cars don't. If it's anything like the walkie-talkies, those are always charged up a way to go. It's correct. Don't matter.
Starting point is 00:05:29 And just as a side note, amazingly, we saw record player work for a beta in the episode this last week. We'll just turn it on and it works. All good. The record players do last a long time. Yeah, the record
Starting point is 00:05:44 player lasts a long time. The electricity that runs it, does it. That's my point. A lot of them run on and throw batteries. No, they don't. No, they don't. There's no battery record players. No.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Sorry, this just doesn't happen. So, let's get, we'll get to this episode, episode 14. Look at the flower. Started out with the Negan and Carol flashback, Alpha head on a spike. You know, Negan explaining to himself what took so, or explaining to Carol, what took so long. You know, crap like that takes time,
Starting point is 00:06:18 which I thought was. He's trying to explain himself. How's interesting to see the flashback with Egan and Carol. Yeah, that was good. Especially because, like we pointed out, what was that last week or a week before, that they just never had any screen time, which is just so insane.
Starting point is 00:06:33 So I hope we get a lot more of that, even though Carol is being so douchy. I don't know. I was like, that was the one time when I was like, wow, I don't like Carol right here, and I actually filled out of a little. You know what I mean? I know, right?
Starting point is 00:06:45 I think that was the point. And they even end the episode with her. coming back to Alexandria. So that was just another screwing Negan. Yeah. Right? Because she said she wasn't going to go back. And then she decided
Starting point is 00:07:00 after she made the roof collapse on her that she wanted to live and she was going to go back. But without Negan, okay, well, thanks. Appreciate it. You know, we've never had any flashback ghosts you know, haunt some of these Walking Dead characters
Starting point is 00:07:17 before. That's never been done before. Yeah, we have. Yeah, we have. That's my point. I'm being ridiculously sarcastic. I'm so sick of that vehicle. Wait, wait a second. What the heck are you watching? Wait, Jeffrey, you were the king of all, like, uh, of those tactics. How did you not see that cover? I apologize. I did at the last second. After I said, wait, yeah, yeah. I did. I did. I apologize. It goes right over his head.
Starting point is 00:07:44 It's the gyps and weed. I apologize. It's the gypsin weed. So, I know. I know. The flashbacks with ghosts are, you know, seeing people. And I get it. They try, you know, they're another way to keep the characters alive when they're dead.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Okay. Well, I'll give them to you. We had the, you know, the group then meeting up after hilltop fire, all coming together. And this little shack. Yeah, the shack that they found the kids in, and they were all wrapped up. I was a little upset. I thought your boy, Jerry, was getting a little touchy-feely with your girl. So he got close there.
Starting point is 00:08:26 I know probably from, well, I know from insider information that they were exploring, like, a little relationship there. I caubashed it, so they were like, will you settle for just an extended hug? I was like, it depends on how extended it. That almost. I don't think Jerry's the type of guy to cheat. on his wife. I try to tell him they didn't care, but, you know, they did pull back when I
Starting point is 00:08:50 put the foot out. Good. And by the way, when you say you don't think Jerry's the type that she doesn't know's wife, I agree with that unless Magna shows up. Right. Who is gay? You think to yourself, you know, it's worth a little, just to say hello.
Starting point is 00:09:05 But she's gay. Not for Jerry. Anyway. It was good to see them. But then that's when... I would make an exception for Jerry also. So, come on. He just throws all those issues out.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Thank you. And then we had Eugene telling, you know, pleading his case, pleading his case to the crowd of going to meet the New World Stephanie, his girl that he's been yapping to. And the king kind of saved him. The king kind of saved Eugene because the people were getting a little wound up at him for reaching out. Yeah, I was glad he kind of held it back a little bit.
Starting point is 00:09:42 But you can tell he wanted to go full on and listen to that. Oh, no, no bites. I was like, oh, it's coming. It's coming. But then he pulled it, he rained it back in. Yeah. I miss a little bit of that king. I miss a little bit of that king.
Starting point is 00:09:56 I know. I kind of was hoping for it last night, too. It was all about it. And then we had, I love the, as we, you know, I'm going down the breakthrough of the episode. But I did enjoy beta. seeing alpha on the spike yeah on the spike and really kind of going off the deep end which we knew would happen but it was interesting that as he pushes his homeboy listen to what she's saying to his face and then the other
Starting point is 00:10:27 whispered smart and runs off that's a good yeah he's like screw it I'm out yeah when he gets this way uh-uh why is he so why is he so I don't know what standoffish about being called Alfa. I don't get it. He was like that in the comics, too. When Alpha died in the comics, they, same, like, One Whisperer said, you are the new Alpha now. He reacted very similarly,
Starting point is 00:10:54 where he was like, she will always be the Alpha. So, really weird. I mean, that's his... He's always been extremely loyal to her, and we know that, so... And when do you say loyal? Wacko,
Starting point is 00:11:12 They both were wacko and they both are. I did. And then, you know, we talk about the record player just firing up because we got to see Beta show up at the club, the back room of the club that he was, you know, performing at. Also, no, fear of the walking dead set. It did kind of look like that. You looked exactly like it. I was like, well, it sure did.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And it was interesting to see his, you know, his poster that he rips off. and then he plays himself. It was nice to see him in his crazy mode, you know, bringing the crowd of walkers to the balcony while his music is playing. And he's actually, a rare time we see Bata smile and actually kind of lip syncing to his own song. Right, because he's, you know, enjoy it's my audience. Okay, thanks. So crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I'm surprised that they kind of let a lot of that go. I have no idea how that reveal. That reveal was kind of tiny in the comics, wasn't it max? Where he just kind of... Oh, yeah, definitely. It was like just, oh, he's this guy, and then they move on. They actually have done a way better job in the show. Well, in the comics, he was not a...
Starting point is 00:12:27 Singer. He was a basketball player and actor. So I mentioned this in our little text, you know, group there when we were watching this. But after the Talking Dead or what is that? Show that airs afterward. I can't remember the name of it. And that, the actor said that that was his idea. Yeah, he's had a lot of, like, he's heavily inputted on Beta's backstory.
Starting point is 00:12:56 That's cool. Well, I thought that I caught something there, but maybe I didn't. But he said, how does this character last for two or three seasons? Has it already been two seasons that we've been in? It's been a couple seasons, yeah. Yeah, wow, it feels like just one long season for some weird reason. I don't know. he was at the t he wasn't in every single episode last season no he was in the he was in the second half
Starting point is 00:13:16 of last season but three seasons two or three seasons maybe i'm reading too much into that but well i think that's what he was when i think that uh well yes yes you are i think that they're reading too much into it no i think that when he was creating the character right and they're talking about the character he's thinking about how to stretch it out for two or three seasons whether it's going to actually be that way or not who knows. He's like, she's a back story where this goes 10 seasons.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Trust me. And think about it. You as a writer. Yeah, I know about that. I mean, if you think about it, he's done a pretty good job at actually creating a backstory for beta. Oh, for sure. Oh,
Starting point is 00:13:58 yeah. I like it better, actually, than the, what was the basketball movie star player, whatever, whatever it was. And it also gave them an opportunity to cross-promote during field. right when we saw yeah when we saw his face on the on the record right which leads us into you know the movies and the whole bringing the you know dead world together and then it was really kind of a great scene where uh darrell is with nigan at the uh at the spikes and uh the other whispers come up and then uh it was a cool little turn for them to bow down to the new alpha Yeah. It was such a callback. I mean, that's what he's used to, right? And I mean, it probably tells us more, too, on just how, like, Megan's mindset. Because he would be so tempted. He's like, look, they think I'm the leader now. I could easily just steal this group. I could take it back to the old sanctuary or whatever, you know, and start back up again if you wanted to. Especially with, especially Daryl's got the arrows pointed at him. He's like, I haven't charged now, bro. I mean, the look on Daryl's face was. tremendous. Just like when the whisperer has the shotgun
Starting point is 00:15:14 up to his head, he puts his hand up, and then he's like, we kneel to the new alpha. Darrell's just like, are you kidding me? Really good, really good. And you knew, and of course, then you knew that Negan was going to kill the whispers, right? I mean, he's got to win Darrell back.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I don't know that it helped win Darrell back. Him explaining the shotgun was great. Yes. Yeah, really good. I love Darrell's response right after he got finished killing all of them he goes, untie me a-hole. You know, it was almost like playful, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:46 Right, right. And then we had, we get to, we get to the king and the group headed with their horses as they head out with Eugene and Yumiko and the king head out for their trip to meet Stephanie in the
Starting point is 00:16:04 new world on their horses. I found, it was really weird, that his horse was bit? It got bit during that one part when they tried to search that one area. When Ezekiel was being attacked by those walkers, you hear the horse actually get hurt in the background. Well, that's the first time we've ever seen an animal get bit
Starting point is 00:16:27 and still be, I mean, we've seen them get eaten by walkers, but we've never seen an animal get bit and then struggle along. I mean, would we end up, if we'd let it go, do we get the Walker horse? We probably would have seen Walker animals by now. I don't think animals are able to turn back from the dead like humans in the show, but the infection still hits them, so it just runs them dry.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Are you the Who now? The World Health Organization, animals are fine. They just die from the virus. Jeffie's weird hang up with the animals. He'd be like, it's bull crap. We'd see tons of rats, squirrels. We'd see, we're the walker squirrels. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Horses. They only just got, they have one bite and they're still alive, stop it. Come on. And then we found out when they got, when they rode into the city, everyone was wondering what city it was. We never saw the show what, you know, there wasn't a welcome sign or what city they were going to. I read afterward that it's supposed to be Charleston, West Virginia. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:38 So, I mean, we knew that they were headed to West Virginia, which is what I said last night. that it had to be, you know, West Virginia, but it never said, I didn't see, I mean, maybe you guys caught it. I didn't go back and watch it the second time. In the comics, it was that that city is supposed to be Pittsburgh, but to get to West Virginia, I don't think you would go through Pittsburgh from Virginia.
Starting point is 00:18:00 No, not from where they're at. I mean, Pittsburgh's way on the heck. I don't know if you have ever looked at a map before, but Pittsburgh is way far west, getting there from there. But it was supposed to be Charleston, West Virginia and that was you know
Starting point is 00:18:15 it was kind of cool getting them back into the city again and before we talk about you know what happened as they get closer to the city that's you know then we went to Carol being trapped with Alpha that was another it was an interesting scene
Starting point is 00:18:31 eh I know I'm kind of over that too I mean really the only point was to bring Carol out of her insanity. Yeah. The entire purpose, that entire thing,
Starting point is 00:18:46 all it was... We've seen insane Carol before, so this is nothing new. Well, I know, but this was just to bring her back right that she wants to live instead of die, and she's going to be Carol again, right? Yeah. I had the sneaking
Starting point is 00:19:01 suspicion that she might actually die this episode, just a little bit. I thought so, too. Yeah. I thought that might be a possibility too. And then, of course, you know, Duh, what are you thinking? She's going to, you know, no other human. We have to suspend reality.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And Carol is the new Rick, and she's going to get out of that, no problem, and save herself. And that's fine. I mean, I don't want her to die. She's a great character most of the time. My only issue is just waste time. You know, it's like you could have done that in like two seconds. You didn't need to develop, like, half the show to her wandering the woods and come to this revelation. It's just waste time.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It was kind of interesting hearing name drop like Sophia, Ed, Lizzie. Yeah, and wasting time with Alpha. I mean, that was all that was, right? You keep Alpha alive while being dead, and you bring back all the flashbacks of earlier episodes, so it keeps all that alive. Yeah. Of course, we know why. It's called Look at the Flowers.
Starting point is 00:20:05 Why? Because that's what Alpha said to Carol. I know you're being sarcastic I don't know about that As we And then we got As the king And Eugene and you were going to get into the city
Starting point is 00:20:22 Of West Virginia, Charleston I thought it was fantastic As they were getting into the city There was the walkers in the cage And in the cages with the bird In the other cage So the walkers kept trying to get to the bird
Starting point is 00:20:37 so that they would still be riled up a little bit. And as they get into the city, all the walkers tied up like it's the wax museum. That was hilarious. That was fantastic. And then the king, when he sees the cop and the cop and the walker in the car, he's just dying, laughing. At first, I didn't know if, like, when they first started,
Starting point is 00:20:59 I was like, oh, they're going to, someone set in something like ominous to scare people. And then I was like, no, that's not what they're doing. I thought so too. I'm with you on that. That looks like if you have like a bunch of frat boys that got bored during the zombie apocalypse
Starting point is 00:21:14 I've got a great idea. Let's get some beer and then tie up a bunch of zombies look like little scenes. Yeah, and then we meet we meet Princess. We meet the Princess. The Princess, which was great.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Oh my gosh, hi! What's her significance? I've heard of her, but I didn't know She showed up around this time in the comics, too. She is the sole resident of that city. That whole city is empty, but with walkers and her. And she has been, and she has never been in a group ever. She has only met a couple people traveling through. That is it. Well, that doesn't say much for Charleston, West Virginia. Yeah. So she's not tied to the Commonwealth or anything.
Starting point is 00:22:02 She becomes part of the group later, but she is not tied to anything. That is her city and she has been living there since the beginning. Crazy. Oh my gosh, hi! I love it. She's going to be great. That's going to be a fun character. I don't know that I thought that her displays were as funny as the King did.
Starting point is 00:22:23 I just thought they were really cool. I didn't think that they were that funny. The King needs some chemo or something. A little cancer issue going on. I know. I know. It's going to be sad. Who knows? Maybe the Commonwealth will have chemotherapy. So, very possible, right? So next week, we have two episodes left. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, I'm just, I'm curious about, because before, I thought they were replacing the Commonwealth with the CRM.
Starting point is 00:22:58 But now it doesn't look like it. I don't know. Yeah, it doesn't look like it. It looks like they're, so they're going to coexist. this, they're going to have the Commonwealth and this other huge group? That's nuts. That's what it looks like, or it could be all these communities when they meet up, and then the show ends, and then the movie is all the communities versus CRM with Rick leading them. Oh. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Someone pointed out, I was reading about that group that Michone saw on last week's episode, you know, at the very end. Yeah. And he was pointing out that huge, you know, looked like a battalion of people down there. They were like riding in horses and it seemed very low-tech. But from the images we've seen from the other shows, the teases, the CRM is very high-tech. They have helicopters and they have uniforms, those black uniforms and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:50 So maybe that's how many... Go ahead. They're the only group we've seen in all three shows because they're a big part in world beyond whenever that comes out, and we've seen them in dead and fear. Yeah. But now I'm confused. I was fully set on that group was part of the consortium CRM.
Starting point is 00:24:09 But now I don't know because or maybe, because we know it's like three different communities. Maybe they're all, they don't all look alike. Maybe they're not all three as high tech as the one that we've seen. Right. Well, that's, I mean, that's what we're getting at, right? So the movies are bringing the different communities and they all have their own special ways of doing things. And that's their special ways of survival, right? You learned your way.
Starting point is 00:24:33 The same with the whispers. with Alpha. I mean, that was just her way of survival, right? I don't know. I would be happy if they did have CRM and the Commonwealth, because the Commonwealth just looked cool from what I saw in the comics. Yes, it did. Yeah, that would be fun.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So, next week is episode 15. Well, we forgot to talk about beta and alpha before we talk about next week. Well, okay, that's fine. Beta ended Alpha finally, which I was kind of surprised at it. I thought he was going to keep her alive. longer than he did. What do you think
Starting point is 00:25:05 Jason? I don't know. Yeah, it was interesting. I guess he had no other real choice could just be kind of hard to sleep, you know, with a little head going. I don't think he minds. It's beta. I don't think he minds
Starting point is 00:25:24 it's beta. That's tremendous. Could you keep it down? Trying to get a little rest here. He stabs the head and then and then we see him walk out into the herd kind of the herd he's created. And then we see his face and he fixed the mask with Alpha's part of Alpha's face. Right. That was kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah, that was kind of cool for him. So he's, you know, gone off the deep end and he's going to, you know, get his herd ready to, ready to go. His horn. I got it. It's not his herd. So next week is episode 15. There's two shows left in season 10. Season 15 is, the show is the 10.
Starting point is 00:26:02 tower as the communities prepare for the final battle of the whisper war and meanwhile eugene's group encounters princess so we get a little bit more princess which means we don't get stephanie yet right with being her we're still hanging out in charleston and they're preparing for battle and hope you know we'll probably get uh we saw a little bit of the previews of uh beta having the horde get bigger and trying to figure out what was going to going on. And we also saw it one of the previews. I don't know if you saw this, Jason, but they were in the tower
Starting point is 00:26:39 up behind Beta. Yeah, it was Aaron and Alden. Aaron and Alden, you know, sneaking in that tower trying to stay alive as Beta was up there, you know, probably still humming his little tunes for the horn
Starting point is 00:26:54 creating them. So that was, that would be kind of weird to see what happens with that. And my theory still stands. Someone will probably die that tower like in the comics, although I'm not sure if it will be Gabriel, but let's see. Well, he wasn't there though, right? Yeah, he wasn't there, but maybe
Starting point is 00:27:10 because he was the one that died. Yeah, but they weren't, they were up in the tower, they were, in the preview, they weren't, that wasn't, they didn't have the look on their face that it was post-death. It was pre-anybody dying. They were just hiding up there hoping that Beda and his crew
Starting point is 00:27:30 would go away. So maybe Alden and Aaron will get up, We'll get Gabriel's death. Yeah, it could be. Very could be. And those two are another two characters that you'd be sad to see go, but, eh, yeah. It better be Gabriel.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Otherwise, we're going to have, AMC and I are going to have words again if it's not Gabriel. Pretty sure I put my foot down on that one as well. Well, I'd like to say that the, here we go. After, let's take a moment and ask AMC, what the hell are you doing? this is next week will be the final episode although it won't be the final because the episode a certain doom has been postponed
Starting point is 00:28:15 episode 16 the season finale has been postponed now we found out last week that it was going to be postponed and everyone was like wait what it's going to be postponed until something time later this year, and they're using the coronavirus as an excuse because everybody's got
Starting point is 00:28:41 to work from home. And then we get the tweet from Nicotero that talks about, hey, this is the first time I'm hearing about it too, but the shows are three weeks out and post-production. For those of you who are curious, involves VFX, music, sound mixing, and sound effects. Thanks, Greg. And this process usually goes up to about three weeks from air date. I'm fighting out about this the same time you guys are and it's disappointing but the episode will not disappoint. Be safe everyone. Okay, well
Starting point is 00:29:11 then it seems to be that two weeks ago so the show is still three weeks out now. Okay? The last week. Two weeks ago we found out that the world beyond was going to be postponed because of
Starting point is 00:29:26 we're assuming the coronavirus and I'm guessing that since the world beyond was going to air right after the season finale of Walking Dead, they realized, wow, we don't have, you know, if that's true, if their three-week-out plan and still holds true with their other shows, then, you know, it's still, they,
Starting point is 00:29:47 no one, no one at AMC said, well, we're postponing world beyond because it's not three weeks out and we've got the coronavirus. You know what, why don't you guys work on the season finale of Walking Dead so that we actually end the season of Walking Dead. And then we can postpone world beyond.
Starting point is 00:30:09 That can air, you know, later on this year. But we could have Dead End. No one said that. No one thought, you know, maybe we ought to have to do that. Why don't you guys work on that? No one.
Starting point is 00:30:23 At this network, a supposedly major network, says that. And then we have to have their, you know, their main Angela the Kang showrunner. I think it's disappointing for all of us that work on the show. Everybody works so hard, our post-production team.
Starting point is 00:30:39 But, you know, everything just takes longer. There's certain processes. That couldn't be moved before California shut down for business. And it just couldn't be done. Stop it. I don't believe it. I believe that someone really dropped the ball. Well, I, so this is my theory.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I think that Negatorial King, all them are lying out their rears because they're, I think, I think they're protecting their rollout schedule. And they wanted things to happen on specific dates. So they wanted World Beyond to happen within a certain period of time right after the season finale of Walking Dead. And everything was lined up. So right now, the only thing I think that is being held up
Starting point is 00:31:19 is the production on World Beyond. And that's what they're worried about. So they can't have actors out doing their stuff. They can't be doing all their second shots and all their stuff like that. Second recordings, yeah. All of that stuff. And then that, of course, holds up the movie production and then all the other, and fear production and all that stuff. So they, I guarantee you that the season finale of Walking Dead is done.
Starting point is 00:31:43 It's in the can. It's in the machine ready to play. But because of their rollout schedule that they're protecting, that's why they're delaying it. That's my guess. Wow. That actually makes a little bit of sense. And I want to be on your side, but I don't want to stop being mad at AMC for dropping. well. So that's that.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Although, so, I mean, those are, that's a, that's a good, that's a good theory. That's a really good theory. And if, if that keeps me from being angrier at AMC and the Walking Dead world, then I'm going to go with that. You make me feel a little bit better. It still puts me on. I don't care about the rollout schedule. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:25 All I really care is this show. Everything else is secondary to me. Thank you. That's what we're here for. Yep. That's what we're here for. And if it matters that much, then replay the last two episodes before you premiere World Beyond, before you get into fear.
Starting point is 00:32:43 That's fine. We all would love that anyway. Imagine you guys are wrong, and they actually can't finish production on the last episode. Yeah, it's amazing that the network didn't see. No, I'm with you. Okay? So let's say, let's say Jason is wrong, although I tend to think that's a pretty good theory. But let's just say that I'm right.
Starting point is 00:33:05 And they just, they just dropped the ball. Okay, so I never want to say that people should get fired ever. I mean, that's just not right. I don't want people to get fired. I don't people lose their jobs. But it's too big a deal for a network not to see this coming. Was it a big surprise that we were all going to, I mean, we knew something was going to happen with this coronavirus.
Starting point is 00:33:29 We knew that things were looking like, and some studios are going to start shutting down. We're not going to be able to get some work done. Theaters have already started moving movies out. Films were already being postponed. You knew something was happening. So if they were on that schedule, there's no,
Starting point is 00:33:47 you can't tell me without someone dropping the ball that there wasn't one person on the Walking Dead staff that said, you know, we should probably double up some more. work and get that final season finale done just in case. You know, just in case. No one said that. You know what? And while we're talking about some of these screw-ups that you should have seen coming,
Starting point is 00:34:14 can someone give Chris Hardwick's address to me? So that when he just talked to the thing afterwards, your audio doesn't sound like you dropped your mic and your freaking toilet. You know, maybe like, I always, buy you a mic and send it to you. This is, that was, what is he using? I don't know. I don't know. It was bad.
Starting point is 00:34:36 Hurst and Morgan, like Jeffrey Dean Morgan and Ryan Hurst, their mic sounded fine. Yeah, they also, but. Except Hardwick. Yeah, and actually their video was better quality than Hardwick's as well. So his camera, it's like he's using
Starting point is 00:34:51 his phone or something, but no, because even phone has better audio. I don't know what he's used. It's like he's purposely trying to sound bad. Like maybe he'd duck around his microphone or something. Something. Just something. It has to be better, right? I mean, it just
Starting point is 00:35:05 has to be better. The show is worth more than him sounding like crap like that. It just is. It just is. All right, so this is talking, walking dead. Thank you so much for tuning in. Those of you that are listening to the podcast, make sure, you know what? Those of you listening, wherever
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