Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S10 E16 | Talking Walking Dead | Fear Edition

Episode Date: June 14, 2021

TALKING WALKING DEAD: FEAR THE WALKING DEAD EDITION… Season Ten Episode Sixteen The Season Finale TITLED: The Beginning WELCOME TO IT… With myself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill & Maximus Fisher EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB Everyone desperately scrambles to live out the coming destruction on their own terms. Join us as we discuss the latest happenings and what the future has in store for The Walking Dead Universe… The Final Season of The Walking Dead begins in August of 2021… Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 6, episode 16, the season finale of Fear the Walking Dead, titled The Beginning. This is Talking Walking Dead, Fear the Walking Dead edition. Welcome to it. Myself, Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill, and Maximus Fisher, 16 episodes deep into season six. And that was it last night. Jason, first thoughts. Well, my first one after you think 16 episodes, that's a lot of pain to have to endure, with not a whole lot of...

Did it for you, the listener. Yeah, right. So you don't have to. Yeah, I mean, well, it ended pretty much exactly how I wanted it to end. So that's good. I mean, fairly pretty much. Like, I, the entire time, I was like, they're going to come up with a way to stop these bombs going off. I'm going to be so pissed.

At least one doesn't go off. So I was, let me just, my opening remarks is I was happy with that. Yeah, I was very happy that they actually, not just they didn't shut down all the bombs except one, not all ten of them are going to go off. I did enjoy that we lost some people and we'll discuss who we lost as the show progresses. I also was disappointed that we didn't lose as many as I hoped. You wanted all of them. Start again.

Reset. Everyone but Morgan and then reset. You know what? I'm all right with them going to. I want them all gone. Season four was already kind of a reboot of this show with Morgan coming in. Yes, it was. Yes, it was. So the IMDB is everyone desperately scrambles to live out the coming destruction on their own terms. And, you know, I did like the idea of how they broke it off into sections. You know, each section had their own little black screen. The first one was, you know, promise me you'll find someone. And the second one was some kind of Spanish words that Daniel was in.

I don't know what they were. Adame a llama. Yeah, whatever. What's that mean? Give me the weapon. Yeah. And then one was Enjoy the View asshole, which I will say was probably my favorite scene. My favorite part of the White Sherry.

Yes, the Dwight and Sherry. enjoy the view asshole was really, really good. Then you have nothing to be sorry about with Teddy and Dakota. And then which man are you with Strand and the new buddy? And then Grace on the sub with I can hear her. And then I know how to survive was the final one. I will say, you know, they were all okay. I really did enjoy the Dwight and Sherry segment of Enjoy the View Assail.

that was actually a really good segment. Will this be a surprise to hear that I did not enjoy the multiple different segments? That's why I set it up exactly the way I said it up. It does not let me down. Yeah, I thought that was annoying as hell, really, for me, because I just wanted to see them build on are they going to stop these? Are they not going to stop these? I didn't care all the little, oh, this is the life lesson I learned while this is about to go off.

Shut up. Shut up. I did not care. The part was Sherry and Dwight probably actually pissed me off the most when she was like, oh, my gosh. Maybe I shouldn't have been so angry in pushing you away. Oh, like we agreed with. We all agree with her all that. Yeah, and I did actually during that segment when she was like,

You know, we found each other. We did find. No, no, no, no, no, no. We did not find each other. Dwight found you. Okay. Dwight crossed the country to find your boogey ass, okay? Right.

You were not trying. Thank you. You left a couple little notes here and there to pretend like you cared. That's it. Right. If I'm Dwight, I just stare at her with this dumbfounded, stupid look. And then just cold cocker. Just cold clocker.

Get it over with. that he would have been the one saying to her enjoy the view as as you're looking back up at me after you wake up exactly i i did i did i did enjoy it and it was fun seeing how they got the uh the diggleberries out of the out of the bunker out of the tornado bunker for the family now that was a that was a fun scene and uh then we had uh you know daniel i i i They've got to do something with Daniel. His character, he's too good to make him this crazy guy, losing his mind guy.

But he wasn't losing his mind this episode. I know, which was nice. It was nice to see. But they still thought he was at one point. He was just their, you know, the only reason they went with it is because he was the last hope, right? The coordinates for the helicopter that shows up. I was not expecting CRM. That was cool.

That was cool. I did enjoy that. They had to ship that was a way that we were bringing the universes together, right? Yeah, I am very happy with that. And it sucks that you get that in a season finale. I wish they would have gone there way sooner. But, I mean, I guess that's why they have to keep you, I guess, on the edge of your seat, tune in next season. But more of that, please, a lot more of that.

I did like the Strand segment. I thought that was good. Yeah, that was good. And it was enjoyable. And he, you know, then realizes, you know, he's Mr. You know, he lied. And now he knows he's alive. And he's, you know, I don't know that it matters.

That was at the end. I'm talking about when he first met Howard, the historian, where he lied about I'm the one. They came down to two men. One wanted was okay with dying. One wasn't. And him saying he's Morgan. Yeah, we'll see how that pans out in the end. I, you know, I did enjoy it to skip to the end of that segment.

I did enjoy, like, have you seen that movie Desperado with Antonio Banderas? Long time ago, yeah. At the very beginning, there's like the shootout in the bar, and the bartender, who's Cheech, he ends up surviving briefly, and he goes, he goes, the bartender never dies. Like, he's like, you know, I live. That reminded me at the end where he's, like, all fatalistic, and then all of a sudden he's like, ha, ha, I do. I live.

Yeah. I do it. I'm alive. And this is a theory I've seen people thrown around a lot, and I think this might be the case. They're setting up Strand to be the main villain of season seven.

Okay. Okay. No problem. As he turns, I mean, he's been turning into the bad guy anyway, right? He's basically been the villain since season one. Yeah, he's been

in and out of the villain. He just has milked his way into being in Alicia's heart. One of the things that was enjoyable about the episode and I know I'm kind of jumping back and forth but we didn't have Alicia in the show

at all. We saw We saw the bunker. Yeah, we saw her view from the bunker, right? When the bomb went off. Yeah. Through her room, but not her. So, I mean, I guess maybe she wanted

to raise for the episode. I don't know. I don't know, but this is the first finale from fear that does not feature Alicia. Right. Right. So, I don't know. See, it's weird.

That's what I'm talking about. Like, you do it this little artsy, artsy way, you know, of let's see what all these different parts of the group who are all split up. For some reason, they can't all rendezvous back to the same spot. I don't know. And instead, like, the main, like, even though there's main characters in the show, they don't feel like main characters because they don't, you know, they don't show them enough. Right. But Alicia is supposed to. to be one of the main characters.

Oh, yeah. That's like, what? It's weird. Well, remember, she's locked in the bunker with the rest of Teddy's old group that Teddy monitor. I know, but we still should see her, right? I mean, maybe you show somebody walking by and banging on the door going, ha, ha, I want I let you out, ah, something, right?

Yeah, or the plot has them getting to her and then all getting in the bunker, you know, or something, but there's multiple ways you could have brought her in. Right. Right. I did like, I will say, that in the very beginning, We have a baby lady. Rachel. Rachel, who, you know, again, nobody remembers except for Max.

She, okay. Who says, oh, that's Rachel, to let the baby who named the baby Morgan. Okay, she is. Okay, remember in the beginning of the season. At least we remember this. Remember in the time of us? You know, Jason, 16 episodes ago. The guy who saved Morgan.

The guy who led Morgan to the dam. Yeah, I mean, we're all remembered after the fact. But, I mean, in the very beginning. I was like, what? Exactly. And Max is going, oh, that's the lady from the very first episode that's same work. And I'm like, okay. I mean, I'm happy to have you there, but.

I guarantee you, Max was the only one in the country that knew that at that moment. You should, you should start tweeting those things because, like, I guarantee everyone else is like, who's this chick? She's kind of hot, but I don't know. Beyond that. She didn't look so hot with the bone sticking out of her life. Oh, that made me so, that cringed me out so much. So, I mean, it was, it was, you know, that was really a predictable scene. Oh, the tire change was agonizing.

That was agonizing. I was like, what are you doing yanking on it like that? Right. Come on. Every person in America, other than, you know, Maximus, who was telling me who she was, was saying, stop doing with that with the tire. What are you doing? You know, we know it's going to fall on you, stop it.

And that's what it does. I was not expecting a compound fracture, though. But I will say that her move, after that was genius. That was a genius move saving the baby. And when you realize there at the beginning where she wraps the baby, puts the baby in the backpack, and then ties her mouth shut and stabs herself so she dies and ties her up to the dog, ties herself up to the dog and then dies, knowing that, and we find this out at the end,

that as a walker, she's good. She can't feel pain. Well, we don't know that she can't feel pain. We're just guessing that she can't. But as a walker, she'll continue to walk. And that does, the dog and the bloodhound who finds anyone anywhere in Texas, no matter how far they are. Yep. Rufus the God bloodhound.

This dog puts Lassie to shame. You know, like, you know, go get Farmer John. Lassie, go get Farmer John. No, car. You know, like, go by and Morgan last. I know the Pekinese won the dog show over the weekend. The Bloodhound should have won the run the dog show.

Straight up. But it was a good move on her part, right? I mean, she saved the baby. She wasn't able to bite it. The dog brought her to the people. I mean, it was huge. That was a genius move on her part. And so, I mean, that was, and there's another part of it.

Okay. So Morgan and what your face? Grace. Newk lady. Yeah, Grace. are struggling through this whole thing and they've got the baby no the baby was after

right no what are you talking about when they're in the submarine why are they not why did they not take the baby and get back into the submarine for the explosion instead of standing there in the dirt

and then running and hiding underneath the truck I don't I don't understand that just close the latch on the sub fine. I never, it didn't make any sense to me. But whatever.

And I know that they're trying to, Grace was ready to die there at the end. I know we're jumping ahead to the scene, but during the scene where Morgan and Grace were thinking about killing each other, you know, at the same time, the suicide. And they hear the baby crying. It,

which the baby was outside of this. Anyway, this whole, they're inside this deep, inside the sub and we're hearing a baby cry outside. Okay. I actually did set that up. We know why, though. Why? Okay. Grace, at the top of the, Grace, at the top of the submarine in the beginning of this segment, through her walkie-talkie off of the sub. We hear the baby crying through the walkie-talkie monitor. That's correct. You're absolutely correct. Thank you. I'm not wrong, though.

Don't push me. Don't start bogging up with facts. Okay. That suicide scene also, it's like there was zero viewers last night that were shocked when they didn't actually pull the trigger and commit suicide. It was like, you should try that trick on, like, if you had tried that trick on Dwight and Sherry, I would have been wondering. You would have bought it. Yes, you would have bought it. But Morgan has the most plot armor of any show on cable television.

I thought that was the one guy they cannot get rid of her that show, Tanks. Yeah. I thought that was Daryl. Yeah, I don't know. Morgan might hold up higher than Daryl as far as plot armor. I'm still watching if Daryl does, because there's other characters I'm interested in, Maggie, you know. Yeah. Yeah.

Egan. Yeah. I think it's Morgan. And I'll look at through any other show. Like, I'll still watch it, but like Morgan dies on this show. I don't care how long I'm invested in this show, which. which is an insane amount of time. I'm done.

I'm done with fear. But at that point, Grace, I mean, she still wants to die, right? Even after they found the baby and they survived after the nuke. The first new. She wants to die. She's done with it. She's done with it all. So that's another plot line for the future in season seven is that she's done.

Right? No way she wants to take care of somebody else's kid. and even if it's... Do you don't think she's had enough? It's not my kid. It's not my kid. I was ready to die. You didn't kill me.

Now you want me to raise this kid? In a nuclear fallout. No, thank you. In a nuclear fallout of all things. Right. I think she's done. So how many bombs actually went off? Ten.

All ten of them went off. Because I think we get the perspective of a couple, maybe going off, maybe during, like, when it's, which are the different characters we see maybe one or two go off at that point. But then at the end with Morgan, we see, you know, the one that goes off and the one they hide the truck under. And then you see a flash again. They look back. There's another mushroom cloud and you see another shockwave coming.

So, and that's where it ends. So at least maybe five more need to go off. Or we're just going to assume that they do, that they went off, right? Yeah. I hope they show some kind of like aerial shot or something. because it's so hard to like visualize just the amount of devastation. Right. I mean, it's enough that they called in the CRM.

So, I mean... Well, that was Al's doing. That was Al's doing because if Al didn't find... Because remember, Al left earlier in the season to find Isabel, her girlfriend from the CRM. If she didn't do that, we wouldn't have CRM. We wouldn't have CRM. So this was just blind luck that they did show up the day these nukes were going on. I guess so, right?

That's kind of dumb. I mean, you're probably right, but that's kind of dumb. Whatever. Really? Really? It's kind of dumb. No, Jason, stop talking about it. This is fortuitous.

They showed up right when this thing's about to drop down. Literally within like 30 seconds. Oh, and Daniel just happened to hear the broadcast of the coordinates. Yeah. And then, of course, we had the, apparently his name's Roley. the ex-leader of the mask people in this show. He joined up with Teddy's group after the whole Daniel Dam incident, and then Daniel shot him in the head.

Yeah, that was nice. That was good. Daniel knew that he was being had and, you know, reverted back to the Daniel we love, which I'd say needs to happen all the time. Just let him meet Daniel. And then Charlie shot Riley. Yeah, that was good. That was good.

And they, you know, dragged him along. I also will say that I was really disappointed that Dory didn't kill Teddy. They had to show up for their little college scene. Now we're here. Now we're here. And, you know, the Teddy Dakota scene and, you know, and then June and Dory show up to, you know, say that we're forgiven. Oh, agonizing. Oh, my gosh.

I just absolutely agonizing. I almost turned it off at that point. Seriously. I was like, I can't take this. I know. However, the only thing that kept me tuned in was the fact that one of the bombs might fall directly on their head. That was the only thing. I'm just going to say to watch that.

I can't believe that we didn't let Dory kill him. Honestly, I can't believe that we let Dakota kill him and not have Dory kill him and then tell Dakota you're forgiven. Yeah. I just don't understand that. I think the reason was, is, now, I think this is it, if they just killed Teddy right off the bat while Dakota's there, that would confirm her belief and believe in his cause more. However, because they needed to, like, figure out of way something, they found that bunker that Teddy was planning on dragging both of them under there so they could go back to the sub at some point and turn the keys to launch more of the nukes. Okay, so if you're correct, the producers and the directors and the writers are assuming that we're, we care about Dakota's growth, which at this point, we do not in the slightest.

Yeah, we all want to die. We just want fan service at this point. Oh, that's right. Right. I'm just saying, though, I was very happy when she died. We got the death of Dakota. It was a great death. No question.

The nuke-frying death was outstanding. I don't think, I think, and again, you want fan service, right? I mean, everyone was cheering. And that means if you follow anything on social media, they were all cheering for her death. Yes, thank you. That's what we wanted. And that still could have happened. That death still could have happened had Dory killed Teddy, not Dakota.

Yeah. If so many people were cheering over that death, you obviously did not like the fact that they were forgiving her and were preparing to basically let her go. Right. No one was happy with that. Not a single person. No. And then they had the little, what was the, what was the Dory thing that he talked to June about calling it the St. Louis shuffle or something? I think they're referencing an old Western.

Right, where she shot the gun out of her Dakota's hand or whatever. I forget what they called it. I can't remember. I didn't actually, I didn't look into that. It was called the St. Louis stupid or something like that. I don't know what it was called. But I just shoot her. Yeah, so apparently it wasn't John, the son.

It wasn't him that was just an awesome shot. It was just those guns. Because apparently once you grab one of those guns, you are a professional trick shooter. As evidenced last night, June can now just, she's an amazing shot. She's better than John all of a sudden with no price. Even the episode before, right, when she's shot down into the sub. Yeah. Yeah, right.

Yeah. It's the guns. Magic guns. This was the John Dorey Guns. If this was Dungeons and Dragons, those would be like plus 15 to hit. Magic guns. Enchanted with accuracy. I love that enchanted with accuracy.

Enchanted that. But, yeah, that was good. But I was happy she died. And I have to say this. I loved John Glover's performance as Teddy. I thought he was great as Teddy. Yeah, he was a good villain. He was an excellent villain.

And that's why it was so disappointing to me that Oman Dory didn't get to kill him. He's on the hunt for all these years, all this time through the, you know, in the beginning of the apocalypse, he's still hunting him down. And he doesn't get to kill him. That was wrong. That was wrong. Yeah, I'm sticking to my, I was disappointed in his performance as the villain, because I love the cult concept. He just seemed so cartoony to me. Like, I wish they wouldn't have made him.

And he's a great actor, so he could have pulled this off. I was looking for more Jim Jones and not Peewey's Playhouse, I guess. Yeah, I guess. That's just me. You know, I just wanted it to be more, like, sometimes we were laughing at him. He was so, like, off the rails. A little campy, which. Yeah.

Especially, like, what was it? last episode or whatever with the whole mother thing and all that stuff. A couple episodes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. That's just, you know me in these things. I think I'm always expecting a little too much from it. Now, I'm a fan, I'll be honest, I am a fan of the camp stuff, so that's why I found it good. But I know everybody has different styles, and that's perfectly fine.

One thing that's interesting, though, and it was on the episode, on the show that airs after fear, which it actually did at this point. John Glover's look, the long hair and the crazy beard, that originally wasn't going to be Teddy's look. They hadn't filmed any teddy scenes before the pandemic hit. So when the pandemic hit and production shut off, John Glover decided, okay, I'll grow out my hair and beard. And just when he showed up on set, he didn't shave.

So that was funny. He looked like the rest of us for those two weeks. And they said leave it, which is, you know, I mean, It makes sense that was a good look. But I still, now you've got me thinking about the, you know, the character being too campy. And it would have been better played as, you know, less campy. That's just me. Because, I mean, he did, he obviously did what they told him to do.

You know what I mean? And he's a great actor. It probably did extra. It probably did extra because John Glover, if you watch the scene in the awful movie Batman and Robin, where he played the crazy scientist, he does the crazy well. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, the problem is, I keep on comparing them to Walking Dead, like, cannon villains. Like, Negan was a little off the rails, but it was a very dark and, like, oh, crap, we don't mess with this guy. The governor, I thought was equally, he was obviously crazy, but there was just like this evil undertone that you were like, this is really.

Yeah, so it wasn't campy at all. And then there wasn't campy at all. I guess the thing you could kind of say kind as campy was alpha, but. The way she pulled it off was just... I don't think so. It was still freaky as hell with her. But every villain so far on fear has been, can't be. Yeah.

I mean, that's the way they've portrayed them. They can't do a good villain. So maybe that's actually a good rumor that Max said about Strand developing into that. Like, I think he'd be a good villain. I mean, he's definitely got the brains for it. Oh, definitely. And if you think, and if Strand is the main villain of the next season, I think he'd be great, but at this moment right now, I believe Teddy has been the best villain in fear, which is funny because he hasn't, he didn't get a lot of screen time, but he has been the best villain.

Yeah. Yeah, and I'm trying to think if there's been any credible villains in fear. Guess what? He actually kind of won. I mean, he had. Yeah, he did. He kind of did. They had what, you've got, Strand's first boyfriend and mother in Mexico, right?

that was the villain people. And then you had the cowboys or the ranch people. Yeah. Not not the cowboy con people with Virginia. But the first ranch people. Right. The people that were end of the world people, right? And nothing scary about them at all.

No. Nothing. Then wasn't Benchle Negan, which. Oh, yeah. Yes, your boy. Your boy, Metro Negan. The next one was that one, the one crazy lady, the one that Morgan, like, kept following Morgan, the one that would poison the water bottles. Yeah.

Yeah. And then we had the trucker. Yeah, that was dumb. And so was, and the, what was the trucker? Like the one that kind of, like, owned the truck company. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Then we got Virginia. Campy. Yeah. Virginia's been the longest running villain, I think. And then... Can't be as hell. Like, it was laughing. The whole thing was lappable.

So that's actually, hopefully a good idea that Strand does become the evil guy, and he's not campy. We make him into the bad guy. That's what they need. They need something credible, like something where I'm just not second-guessing it the whole time. I don't know. And Strand could go, and they could... And Strand could actually start negotiations with CRM, right, behind the scenes and Morgan,

and he would try to take over all the whole thing. So you're on to something there. He's absolutely the type, but they would be double dealing. Yeah. Oh, definitely. He said it. He was a grifter. He was a shark.

That's Strand. Yeah. So that's how to look forward to. So final thoughts about season 16 over actually episode 16, season six of fear. Worth it, Jason? No, it's not worth it. It had flashes that made you think that it was going to be worth it. And then it would have three to four episodes that were just completely jumping the shark.

I mean completely jumping the shark. I haven't seen that in a while. But the few episodes they did have that were good, I really enjoyed. So that's what's really weird season. I don't know, but the finale, they do this to me every time. Like, it makes me want to watch the next season. I know. It's so stupid, as if I wouldn't watch it anyway, but it actually has me wanting to watch.

Now, here's the thing, though. Now we have CRM. Will any fear characters show up in the next season of World Beyond? Man, I hope so. They're smart if they do. Yeah, they have to. Yeah, they have to. And now, and then beginning in August, right, August 22nd,

We have Walking Dead. Walking Dead. The big guns back. Oh, that's August. Oh, yeah. So we'll see. I mean, that's their final season, but they have, you know, 185,000 episodes left. So I know they're making their final world tour.

I got it. Is it 30? How many? 24 left. I think 24 episodes. And 20-some episodes left. It's an extended season of death. It's a long time.

Wow. So wait. So we'll get it in August, and then when does it pick back up? Was it pick back up in October after the break? Maybe. Oh, probably. I'm not sure of the timeline for those. I'm not sure.

I don't know the air schedule. But fear probably is not going to be back now. They didn't say anything about when the new fear starts, but you're looking at, you know, probably next year, right? And World Beyond. Next year, 2022. And World Beyond, I think, might get its final season in October as well, maybe. Right, because they only had two seasons.

Yeah, World Beyond is two season. done deal. I was hoping they forget about that. I know. They haven't either. But that seems to be the episode that we're bringing, you know, we're trying to bring everything together. So in timeline-wise, right, we still have to make some kind of small jump in fear to

catch up, right? Where are we at time-wise? I believe we're just around the time of the bridge, incident with the Rick Bridge incident, I think that's the time of fear right now. Okay, so they're still going to have to make a jump after when they come back. That jump's going to have to happen when they come back after they'll be, they'll have already been surviving for a while after the nukes. Right.

So you'll get that time, you get that time jump. Man, so we could get some, if they did it, they could get some Rick interaction. even if it's just like hints or clues, because he is with CRM. So if that timeline guess is accurate, that could be good. That would be fun. I don't know if it's save the shows. I mean, they've got, look, we talked about it earlier. They have to bring him into these so that the new fans know who the hell he is.

So for the movies, too. Yeah, because, right, for the movies, because the movies have been so pushed back now that you've got to know who he is. Are they even filming? They're in pre-production, I believe. So no, oh my God. So the answer to that is no. Wow. It was no.

I know. I know. It's incredible. So we got away. So anyway, I felt like this season was one of the better seasons for fear. No question. I feel like 16 episodes, maybe half, were really worthy. you know, eight of them were really good.

And I have to go back and look at them to really, really, you know, say which ones to put a finger on it. But I really, at the end now, just thinking about it, I really feel like half the season was worth it. Made me want to watch again. Yeah, I know a lot of people consider this has been the best season of fear, which I think I agree with. Yeah, I do too. Yeah, I do too. No, we don't want that phone call right now. You tell them you're busy.

We're going to film for the show. Maybe that's the time limit saying it's time to wrap this thing up. Maybe we will. I didn't realize you had us on a timer, Max. No, I didn't. I'm sorry. I'm with you. So anyway, we've got August when talking Walking Dead will be back.

You feel good about half the episodes were worthy, Jason? I was just thinking about that when you said that. I don't know if I'd be willing to go half. But I can think of at least three to four off the top of my head. So if I can just think of three or four outside my head, there must have been more. But you might be a little generous with the half there. I agree with you, Dad. I thought this season was definitely better than the previous seasons of fear.

Did you just slid him his allowance money? I saw that right there on camera. I did. I did what's going on there. But I honestly thought this season was the best season we've had a fear. No question about that. definitely was the best season for fear. Whether, you know, whether, I mean, for sure all the episodes were not necessarily worthy.

But, uh, I feel like a little bar, like you're tripping on that bar. Yeah, I feel like, you know, what happens is that they, and I've got, I feel like they, you know, they have, I don't know why they feel like the, the need to bring in, you know, a different writer's pack for these shows and a different writer for these. instead of using the same people so that we have the same vision. I know that we're supposed to believe they all have the same vision, but I don't think they do. I really don't think they do. I think the universe has the same vision, so a lot of times they throw things in so that it sticks with the picture. But it doesn't work for this crowd of writers, and it only works for this crowd of people doing

the show and I just feel like maybe we need to get rid of that. Yeah. It almost seems like some of these writers have never watched the original Walking Dead. Right. Or a zombie movie period or show period. We did see a couple of good Walker kills. The nuke burning Walker was kind of cool in this final show. And what's her face, baby lady, you know, breaking her leg and then killing herself to become a walker to drag the

baby with the dog. That was kind of cool. That was a good move. That was a really good, really good move. And, of course, one of the final shots we had was this isn't to the end sprayed over the body of Riley. Yeah, that was pretty cool. Yeah, that was. That was pretty cool.

Yeah, we got the art done with that. So we'll see. I mean, I know that people have survived during a nuke blast. And Max was quick to point out that, well, I've got stories from people in Nagasaki. survived under a floor board. I tell you, though. I know, I know, but it wasn't a truck. Okay.

Yeah, a floorboard is a lot stronger than a truck. Yeah. I just, you know, it's surprising that we're going to believe that they survived. But okay. Truck tires block nuclear blast. Little known fact. Yeah, he does not go through a truck tire. There's no way that a blast like that would.

melt rubber. Wow, that's just dumb. Or burn wood. Right. Dakota completely fried to a crisp and then shattered apart. That was awesome. That was outstanding. But a truck tire.

Like, I remember seeing video, I remember looking up videos after that. They've seen people literally clap and like scream in joy that that she was gone. They were like, oh yeah. Then after that, they were like, oh yeah, Teddy won. Oh, well.

The Dakota's dead. Right, and I would have been okay with a few more people dying. Anyway, thank you for listening to Talking Walking Dead. We'll see you in August when the big guns return and I'm looking forward to it. So it should be another exciting final year of the Walking Dead. But thanks for listening to Talking Walking Dead. And if you're listening to this and you're not a subscriber to the big show Chewing the Fat and you don't know when this show uploads every week, you need to make that happen.

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