Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S10 E4 - Talking Walking Dead

Episode Date: October 28, 2019

THE WALKING DEAD TITLED: SILENCE THE WHISPERS This is TALKING WALKING DEAD… With myself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill and Maximus Fisher EPISODE DESCRIPTION from IMDB Still paranoid Alexandrians get riled up over the Whisperers and take their fear out on Negan; Back at Hilltop, the group deals with an unexpected safety issue. Join us each week after the newest episode as we discuss the latest happenings and what the future may hold. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 10, episode four, the Walking Dead, titled Silence the Whisperers. That makes this, Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it, Talking Walking Dead with myself, Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill, and Maximus Fisher. Silence the Whisperers. Episode description from IMDB, still paranoid Alexandrians get riled up over the whisperers and take their fear out on Negan. Back at Hilltop, the group deals with an unexpected safety issue. Yeah, the walls came down.

So I really wanted to like this. Every week. I really wanted to like this. You say that every week. Because there's bits and pieces of each show now that I'm like, stop. Yeah. But the overall ambiance of the show I love. Yeah.

For sure. The thing of this kind of just it was all about everyone's breaking down. You know, and the tension that the whisperer was right. Although, I said this during the episode, during that one scene with Magna and Unumiko, I was like, I bet Jason's liking this one. I mean, we'll get to that. That was probably, yeah, let's get to that. But, I mean, how could you not like this episode after that? Come on.

Hello? Sheesh. That goes world class. No, but this episode had everything, really. You know, it had Walker stuff. It had a whole lot of Negan, which is always a bonus. Neon killing someone. That's always a bonus.

Which we haven't seen in a while. I know. They incorporated so many of the characters. Yeah, they sure did. Everyone pretty much? I think so. Except the Whispers, because this was, we've had two episodes of Whispers. Yeah, right.

Yeah, except for the Whispers, which if they would have included some Whisperer Action, it would have been a perfect episode. And technically, I guess they kind of did with the Walker Waves at Hilltop. We still don't know if this is the Whispers, though. I think he so is. I think Lydia, not Lydia. Judith. What she said was right on the money.

That's totally what. happening. Right. I mean, that's the old, I mean, it's an old Chinese proverb, right? I mean, that's the way they battle, right? I mean, just send them in. Right. And, but my biggest issue with it, with all of these is like, they're not very narrative driven. You know what I mean? So the overall arc of what's going on, they'll, they get away from that. Yeah. Just to kind of, let's do an episode that just shows how society's breaking down and they're nervous. Okay, fine. If you want to do that, but put it in the context of like the narrative. But the only hint at the overall narrative was what Judith said.

Yeah. Like this is, so, but you have to, as a watcher, you have to read between the lines. Yeah, but I think that was the point of this episode

because skipping forward a little bit to the one, to the trial-ish scene with the council, even Sadiq said, we're focusing on the wrong thing. So I think that's the point of this episode show. Everyone's focusing on one thing where they should be focusing on the whispers. Right. And you don't need an episode to do that.

Well, you can show that. and then give more narrative. You know what I mean? You don't need an entire episode of that. But I'm nitpicking. It was, I enjoyed this night. I know.

I know, me too. That's what I'm saying. You know, the overall essence of the shows have been really good. Yeah. You know, and I loved the, I loved, I can't remember his name now, but at Hilltop when he was talking about we're already at war. You just didn't know it. Oh, the welder. Yes.

It doesn't matter. Whatever. Bill, the welder. Yeah. I think they call him Will at the hilltop, Will the Welder. You know, that's a great point from him, though. Right.

I mean, if you didn't think you're already at war, you know what you're doing. Right. You know, you're not looking. Yeah. Did the show open up with that tree scene? Is that how it opened? The show opened up with them, like, going back and forth from like,

they're showing, like, I believe, Michone. Oh, yeah, Darrell was family time. Daryl was delivering food up to the room that you knew was for Carol because she was, she was convalescing and just couldn't come up. Yeah. Going through rehab? Yeah. Could you tell us about that entire process, Jeffrey?

Like how does, you know, she works? Well, it certainly takes a while. And it takes a while for you to actually want food again. Yeah, and it's very little. But you've never had an issue. Very little. That's just strange. Yeah, but then.

Seriously, we're going to go there again. Then, of course, it cuts us to what was happening at Hilltop with Magna, Um, and then the king. Yeah, the king struggling. You know, again, that's what everybody is struggling with the same issues, right? It's been six years and they're trying to build something and now they've got another war coming and they feel like what they've built is nothing, really. They've just been going through the motions, right?

It doesn't feel like anything is actually taking hold. Maybe it wasn't a good idea to make one of your main leaders, you know, who, you know, just a big actor. That was one of my issues with the king all along and why I don't really, like him because he's just an actor and he's probably going to get dramatic you know oh there's no question that's coming when he comes back when he gets when he gets his breath back which that's coming yes

you're going to hear a few viz and thous and yees in fact that's probably what drives michehano off yeah oh come on you can't handle this Michelle's like then I was going to have a little if you call my sword e old sword one more time I'm out I was ready to have a little business with you and then

no but then uh then of course we had the tree fall and knock down the walls. Right. Well, I mean, and do you think that was on purpose? Do you think it was a mistake?

I mean, somebody on the inside. I mean, it just feels like. Yeah, large, but large trees, they usually just fall for no reason. Just fall.

I don't know where. No storm or nothing. They just fall right on your wall. And I find it difficult to believe. I really do. I find it difficult to believe with the security of that wall around hilltop.

I mean, it feels like it should be more stable than it was. Yeah, but it was a big oak tree. Not the tree, but I mean, talking about when the walkers are coming. Wouldn't the, well, I think they broke in right by where at least the tree was.

So wouldn't have the wall weakened by that point? Yeah, that's true. By the tree, yes. I know what you're saying, though. I didn't, I was like, wait a minute. I thought they were going to come pouring in through, like, some of the gaps that the tree, like, knocked down or crawl over the tree or something. But instead, they just pushed down another part of the wall.

And maybe that's because of the tree, but it just feels like, it feels like that. After six years, we would have at least had that a little bit of security. Right. That's like the only reason why you're breathing right now. Right. Maybe we should make that thing secure. And I did love, I'm telling you right now, this is a call from Jeff Fisher. This is a felt from Jeff Fisher.

The Walking Dead is going to have, they're going to, AMC's going to have a deal with either the American Dream Park in New Jersey or they're going to sign a deal with Disney and they're going to have rides at Disney because that horse is pulling the car. That's a ride That is a Disney ride I'm telling you That's going to be the ride And you're going to have walkers Coming up to the car And people biting and killing

And everything around you It's going to be a tremendous Walking Dead ride And if you haven't thought of that AMC You're welcome You're welcome You are so right It's like at Six Flags

They've got like a What is it Justice League ride You know that in that Or you sit in the little car or whatever You know you shoot with all the bad guys You'll do that, but you'll be shooting, you'll have like Daryl's crossbow and you'll be shooting Disney ride, man. That's great.

It's great. Maybe AMC just opens their own theme park. The dead, you know, dead theme. No, if they make it. Dead park. That would so make money. That was guaranteed. No, if it was AMC, they'd also have Breaking Bad, so they'd have to have something there

like that there for too. They'd have preacher into the badlands. Okay. Oh my gosh, yeah. All of their shows are theme park worthy. Okay. AMC, but make sure and our lawyers get together so we get our something something. We want, AMC, we want royalties.

Big something, something, something. We want royalties. It's a big something something, something. And then I did like the, I cracked me up when the king in, you know, the king was off by himself and Michone had to go find him. And I, the funniest part, let alone, you know, the kissing. And I haven't kissed anybody above taller than four feet in six. years. That was kind of nice. And you can get the idea, right? I mean,

it's a lack of options in those days, you know, in those times, right? Yeah. And so, but I did love the, when she's going to look for the king and the king's horse comes riding by and she's like, whoa, horse. Okay, good job. You've trained that thing real good.

You know how to handle those horses real good. Whoa, whoa. It just keeps going. What was the horse scared of? I don't know. Maybe he just slapped it on the rear and told him to get out of here and go back home or something. know. I don't know. That whole kiss thing just came so out of nowhere. I was like, I don't know about that.

Really? Yeah. Have they ever had a moment? I don't. Well, here's the thing, too. You could under, in this situation, you could kind of, even, you could tell at the time during it, you can tell there wasn't really any romantic thing between them. It was just really a kiss to help ease the moment, and then that

happened. And you could tell they'll not like. How many times, Jason? How many times in your life? You're in a struggling moment and you think, I'm just going to kiss the girl is here. I mean, I can't count the times I had a nickel for every And here's another thing too They referenced the comics

It was a good reference to the comics Because like I said before There were a couple They were a couple in the comics And even Ezekiel said Maybe in another universe Right Right

Right It's a good call Is Carol and Ezekiel Officially not a thing Did she completely break it off? Yeah I thought that I thought that was easily explained. Don't you remember

she removed the ring at the end of season 9? I do remember that. But I always felt like that was still, the ring was just kind of like We're not getting, I thought it was more like we're not getting married. They were already married at the time. But she's, but she's been gone now, you know,

on her pirate escapades in the shipping lanes. And, you know, now she's been, you know, off, you know, on the streets doing dope. and so yeah it probably is it's completely over now right I don't know I mean King is that the king lost his kingdom so he's hanging out at hilltop yeah with the bows

and so I guess yeah I just I never really got it for me I never really got a definitive this is over type thing I think Max is right that I think the ring was the symbol of we're done we're divorced yeah yeah which

okay whatever And then I did, because then we have, we have the Nigan scenes, which were tremendous. Oh, the Nigan scenes. I mean. Well, first we had Lydia, which was when she was walking past and then the guy that Aaron was training, which was part of the highwaymen. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're messing with her and being smart Alex. But Aaron's okay with it because he doesn't like her anyway.

You know, so he led to ha, ha, ha, let's go. Let's go back to work. Aaron's such a douche. He's turned into a real douche. Such a douche. He's turned into a real douche. I'm not quite sure. You know, look, okay, sure the guy's lost most of his arm.

Okay, sure the guy's got to carry around a giant metal honker thing on his arm to kill things. And sure, he's lost two boyfriends. And sure, right? He has to, now he doesn't have to collect license plates anymore when he's out on the road. Remember that when he was collecting the different state license plates for his boyfriend? Wait, way back in the day he called out. So he doesn't have to do that. That was when he was first following Rick and the gang, right?

He was trying to come up on them. And sure that he's had those problems, but he's turned into a real douche. Yeah, it seems so forced. Yeah, his characters made a real turn on a duchiness. Yeah, he's like, no, believe me, I'm a tough guy. Just believe it. I'm tough. I've lived through this.

Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Like everyone else that's there. Right. They're not all duchies. That's where we're at now. That's where we're at now.

Right. That's where we've all been through this. We're all down the road of we're the ones that have served. And to have survived, we've covered this before, to have survived and made it to this point, you've done some bad things. And maybe I don't know that I call them bad things, but you've had to do, you've had to make some choices that you wouldn't have normally made to stay alive. Okay.

So, hey, so the people that are messing with Lydia, like, okay, so, and this is probably a question for you, Max, although you might know this as well, but the highway, so that, the main chick was one of the highway. That whole group was, right? No, not the whole group. Well, the main girl in that was part of the highwayman. So, of course, the two, the Aussie and another guy from the highwayman died from the Pikes. Then the other two, I believe.

From Henry's group. Were from the kids group? Yeah. Because one of their group got beheaded and piked. So the highwaymen, were they part of the Saviors? No. No, they were separate. Remember the highwaymen?

I don't remember at all. They were like, I don't know why, but I completely blinked. They were the ones that were supposed to be protecting the fair. Remember when the fair would happen? Yes, yes, yes. They saved us on horses and stuff. The head guy was such a cool guy. That would have been a great character, and he just killed him.

That's such a waste. He was such a great character. He's just dead. Wow. Okay. Yeah, they were the original cosplayers. Yeah. Before fear.

Yeah. We're going to take that idea. Exactly. That's exactly right. Is there one of those like Wild West Adventure parks maybe somewhere around there? We might be able to trace all those parks. The East Coast. Just the East Coast version.

It's one of their expansion. Expansion parks. I'll remember the reason the highway men originally signed up to help protect the fairs because they wanted to watch a movie? Right? Yeah, right. Okay, sure. Haven't seen a movie in a while.

Really good. Really good. And so, okay, so then we have, that was the, you know, that was the group that was, that are hating Lydia. I mean, doing bad, wanted to want to do harm to her, right? Want her to run off, want to try to scare her, hurt her, get rid of her. Her revenge was pretty good. The whole skinning the squirrels. Before the squirrel scene, we had, we had Lydia by the laundry talking to Negan.

And then Daryl came in. I mean, Niggins helping her out, which is just breaking Negan into, you know, more and more. His old kill him with kindness does not sound very Negan-esque. I was like, what? No, he's just trying to be nice. He's just trying to be nice. He's just killing with kindness, kid. You know, just don't worry about it.

Yeah, I don't. It felt good. You knew he was going to come to her rescue, though, when they were attacking her. You knew Negan was coming to her rescue when they were attacking her. I just, I did. I couldn't wait. I was like, because you just walked out of talking with Daryl. And I was like, where's Daryl when all this, like, screaming and punching and craziness is going on?

He just instantly fall asleep. Well, no, Darrell was... He was off struggling with his... Remember, because he was after that, I think he was the... I got the impression that he's really struggling with being in charge. Oh, yeah, for sure. I mean, that's not him. Yep, right?

Because he was like that. Oh, geez. Oh, yeah, he wants to be out with dog. Right. Where the hell's dog been? That's a good question. Did he leave him somewhere? That's a good question.

No, dog's got to be around. Right? We saw him last at the premiere when they were at Oceanside. Yeah, dog's got to be around, right? Plus, if we wanted to take a side track from dog a little bit, it was possible. We had one thought last night that it was going to be Jerry's night. Yeah.

Really? There was one scene where they focused on him, and I was like, no, don't focus on him like that. Really? Remember because the king said, I'm really, Jerry, I'm okay. okay, but they made that point of him being focused. And I thought, oh, no.

Interesting, really. I got that impression from a completely different character. The Luke guy? Luke. Oh, my God. The goodbye he got was like a goodbye to the show. I think he's dead next episode. Which one is Luke?

Luke, the music teacher. The guy heading to Oceanside. Remember they goodbye? Yeah. I was like, what the hell? Like, they were like, it was like slow motion music, giving the hugs and the, even did a kiss goodbye to that one chick. Yeah, that's right.

And they made fun of him wanting to go back to Oceanside to take care of a little Oceanside business. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He's so dead. He's so dead. You know, so what? Yeah, have a nice day.

Oh, come on. He's a good. Eugene. Take your little. Take your little. He's a good. He made the, right. He made.

He made. He made. He's joke. Yeah. Eugene had to look like, what? Yeah, yeah. Bro, that's my spot. That's my spot.

Sit up. And he was like, you got. That's Gene Zen. You got the joke? What? It was great. It was great. I had enough too of the Sadiq PTSD.

Oh, gosh, get off. I know. Come on now. There is actually a good theory on that. Not from me. One of the theories is, at first the theory was he was a traitor and helped the whispers, but I don't think that's the case. I think he's with us.

However, I think there's this. That's my girl's job. why would Enid be a whisper? I mean, Enid is a traitor, clearly. So whoever she could be on the traitor side of, that's where she's at. But go ahead. Even though she's dead. But.

Or so you think. Yeah, don't bug me down with that. We saw her head on a pike, okay? She's dead. Or did we? Yeah. Anyway, there's this one theory now, because everyone's pretty much thrown out that he's a traitor, is that Alpha made him or help behead them.

Like there's a theory that after maybe she killed them or knocked them out, whatever, or she made him take off one of their heads. We haven't seen any evidence of that, right? I mean, his PTSD hasn't had flashbacks to the bikes or anything. I know. We have, yes, we have not seen that, but that's a theory going around. Well, that's a dumb theory. Was anybody outside the fair area when that went down?

Like when they got beheaded, was there anybody else outside the walls that we know of? I don't think so. I mean, okay, we'll go with that theory, I guess, just because it's out there, but I don't know that I, I don't know. I mean, but I get where people are trying to come up with theories on that because it doesn't make sense. Yeah, the PTSD thing, we're over it, all right? take it, get over yourself. Yeah, at this point, we're like, okay, something traumatic that we don't know about must have happened because this guy is just completely off his rocker and why.

And if that's going to keep up, we need to let him set him free. Right. It needs to be done with Saddam. Goodbye. Have a nice day. If we're not going to kill you, go. Good luck. God bless.

What's the deal with doctors? They can't seem to like keep a doctor. No, they can't. We have two doctors and they haven't died yet. Well, the one guy isn't a doc, though, right? Yeah, he is. I mean, he's a, he was just like a medic or whatever. Yeah.

Which don't they have, like, at least really above average medical training? Well, Max, when I was battling. Grenada? Yeah. It's been an anniversary this last Friday. Yeah, of course they have training, but I mean, and in our times of need during Walking Dead days, any kind of big training like that is about. Really valuable, right?

So you're good with it. Especially combat medicavailable because they know how to deal with that type of situation. Yeah. Yeah. And then we with the lovers quarrel with our girls, a ton of little business. They were in the stairs and they are the lovers. Coral away. Let that divide just get in there, you know?

Break them up. Like frozen water and a rock, baby. That's what I'm looking for. Yeah, because you want Magna. Yes, that's exactly right. Thank you. And see, I love the, you're not my lawyer anymore. So we know that she was, you know, the girlfriend was a lawyer.

Humico was a lawyer. Yeah. And then I love the Lydia going, you know, Negan breaks out. Negan's gone. He's gone. Who in the heck could have? And you guys have any theories on that? I don't think it would go.

Yeah. I don't think it was Lydia because we find out really she just said that to go walk herself in the cell, even though Darrell was like, you didn't, I was on watch last night, you didn't leave the house. I'm thinking Gabriel, maybe.

Gabriel or Darrell. No way, Darrell. I don't know. I don't know. Daryl is really struggling with that because he wants to hate him, but he knows that he's in the right now. You know,

I mean, the right legal place or the right justifiable place to be is that Negan saved Lydia. What's her face? High Women's Girl's death was an accident in the battle and Negan is in the right.

I can maybe see, because Darrell has done this before with Dwight, so I could maybe see him saying get the heck out of here and never come back. Just get out. I don't want to have to deal with you anymore. And if I see you again? Right, because he said we've never been one on one together and just get out. I don't have any place else to do, any place else to go with this except the crowd, the mob killing you, you and I fighting, when it's in the wrong, just get out.

I can see, I see where you're coming from. Yeah, that could be interesting. But I don't know. Something inside says that Daryl just has too much hate for him. I don't know. And he definitely showed that during this episode. He definitely showed his hate for Negan. But Gabriel, this is very convenient for Gabriel because he didn't want to be the deciding vote. You could tell on that. And he was like, well, let's just take some recess time. And you think he's going to sleep. Oh, I need the night off. veer off over towards Negan's cell really quick.

I think it was Gabriel. Okay. But anyway, you know, that, when they voted on that, when the council voted on that, and that just kind of sealed the deal for Aaron's douchiness. I was like, dude, he saved your life. And he mentioned that. He mentioned that. But still screw him.

Still, right. I know he saved my life, but screw him. Because he was like the things he's done and the people he's killed. And his own words, and I, I quote, there is something broken in him. And I'm like, isn't that everybody? Yes, thank you. Yes, Negan took extremes.

So did Rick. Yeah, well. Oh, come on. We were all, but Rick was battling for the good. So was Negan. Not really. Yes, he was. Because if you, okay, how about this one?

Oh, my gosh. I know where you're going with this. And I think I agree, but continue. If we had followed Nigen from the beginning of the, apocalypse all the way up to the to the lines to the to the to the line up make Rick Nagan and no no same as it was the same story and everything just we had followed Negan throughout the whole apocalypse and then we get to the lineup and meet Rick there we would see Rick as the bad guy right yeah and that's the way Kirkman

wrote him Kirkman specifically wrote Negan to be an opposite of Rick where you could where they have both done bad things, but they both think they're fighting for the good. Imagine if you were in Negan's group, just like the regular people. And like you get word that, what, there's this new group by this crazed guy in a beard

that snuck in and knifed everyone to death? In their sleep. In their sleep? Didn't even give a chance to fight back. Knifed them in their sleep. He'd be like, is this ISIS that's going to to Virginia? Right.

We've got to fight back. Right. Our group's got to fight back. It's interesting. Yeah, because the guys, it's all perspective really on this. Except for the whispers. Yeah, the whispers are another thing.

I'm just talking about Negan here. And look, I love Negan. So I'm all on his side. Plus, you know, you talk about, they were talking about how he is so good with the kids or whatever. Well, that's a throwback to him being a teacher, right? I mean, that we don't know that. I think he told Gabriel when they were in the crappin' pants wagon there at the sanctuary.

that he was worked with kids or something, right? So they gave him a little bit of throwback, but that's what he was, right? He was a teacher. And so. It's crazy the parallels, actually, especially with the, like, they both lost their wives. I know.

Both drove him a little crazy. I know. That's the way Kirkman wrote him. He's explained that before. Interesting. The way he wrote Negan was to be a parallel Rick. So, you know, and so he's free. And this is where we now hope that he's going to be out

and make it with Alpha, right? This is where he's out there in the wild. Must be right, Max? This looks like it. And we actually see him with, we actually see him meet up with someone in the trailer for the next episode. And I'm like, okay, if this goes the way of the comics, you're getting knifed at the pikes.

What is that? Who's getting knifed at the pikes? In the comics, there is a kid who let him out because he wanted revenge against Rick, so he wanted to go to the whispers. Okay. Negan, being the smart man he is, knew, okay, I can't trust the kid, because he doesn't like traitors on either team. Right.

However, so when they got to the border, he was like, thanks, kid, and as soon as they pass the border, he kills him with the knife, with his knife, because he knows the whisper is to kill with knives, and they would kill anybody past their border. So when, so when, so when Michone later in that comic passed, the border and she, or not passes, but like walks by it and sees the body there, she just assumes he passed the border, they killed him. Hmm. Okay. So how long is, I'm just trying to get, trying to figure out how long we have left before we see like an alpha death.

How long is Negan with, how long is he out before he, and he links up with the whispers before he kills her? Is it a long time? Not long. Not long at all. Does he live with him for a while? Oh, no, no, no. when he's like out by himself he's not out for a long time when he he meets up with the whispers he's there for like he's at the whisperer camp for a good couple days before he kills her oh wow hey hey i'm liking this okay i'm good with the end of this season having her dead that'd be cool yeah and nigan standing over with blood dripping off a knife the end season 11 i'm fine with that me too and the next season full on war with beta that's dope yes

Michone's gone. What's her face comes back to hilltop to rebuild and show them how to secure a fence. Lauren Cohen. Maggie. Which is interesting that are they going to have Maggie just step right back into her role? Because it kind of seems like this.

That's going to be a tough spot to be in, right? This British chick that needs to die. Are they trying to put her into that? I mean, Maggie's going to come back with, you know, perhaps that thinking of, you know, I'm just going to, I've been on, you know, I'm on pregnancy leave I've had a maternity leave

I'm back now I still walk right back into the same job I had and the people are like not so fast not so fast we're not going to do what you say anymore okay so why don't you go over there and work with Will to Welder

and take it easy well he'll talk doesn't really have a leader anymore and it seems like they're trying to pigeonhole that into the British chick a little bit so maybe that's the fight they're going to have between when Maggie comes back right that's going to be a small battle there

Of course, so let's get to the Walker killing scene that they had when they were fighting outside the wall. That was a good scene. And then they pull back inside the wall and then they're fighting the walkers inside. That was an awesome one-take shot where they take the camera and it just is a one full take, no cuts. That's what's his face. Oh, yeah, Michael Cutlitz, Abraham directed this episode. He's great. Yeah, that episode was really good.

This was all him. Really good. I mean, everything. The way it was done, I love the, I even love the. the song at the beginning and at the end yeah that was good like he he he a plus has he has how many has he done too this is a second time ever directing a episode of the walking there he's got another one coming up later this season what was the first one do we know it was a fear episode oh yeah and then he had uh and then he talked about which we'll get to he talked about he's

going to be directing a bunch if and i don't know how many or what his deal is with with the new spin off with the third show another spinoff coming uh which they um It's a yet titled show. It's about teenagers learning to live in the zombie apocalypse after leaving the safety of a walled city with over 9,000 residents living there. And there's a trailer that I'll post on at Jeffrey JFR later today. The show is set 10 years into the apocalypse in the Midwest in a community that has built itself into a safe haven, a fortress where life isn't just about surviving anymore. Oh, and they call the zombies Empties instead of walking.

Empties, that's a new name. Weak. I don't like it. Oh, come on. We've had multiple weak names before, but also good ones. But that's a spinoff. And he said last night on some show that comes on after the Walking Dead that he's going to be working with this.

Okay, well, I saw stills from this, you know, just like photographs. And I was not impressed with what I saw. I didn't feel like the need to go out and watch this show. Right. So they're going to have to do a lot more. I really like the trailer for the one that was based in New Orleans, in New Orleans, right? That was the animated one, right?

From the website? Oh, that was the VR game. Yeah, the VR game. That was really cool. Well, that was a video game too, so. Hey, but I was just known. It was really cool. I didn't see that.

It was really cool. They just need to try something new. I don't know what. But that's why fear was so promising, like, you know, the apocalypse in a city. sounded crazy cool. I mean, I would say that if I were to sit down and just, you know,

under the idea tree, kind of goes along what we talked a little bit about what they should do for fear, you know, what they're going to do for fear, which they end up going to do, you're welcome, by the way, fear. There's some more ideas for you. We're going to be rich at the end of all this.

There's some more ideas for you. Is that maybe instead of trying to focus on one group like this, whether they have the teens and the empties and all that, why not make the show in my head I'm seeing like a glow just call it dead world you know and so you go around in each episode

is a different locale yeah a flash of what's happening here what's happening here just go around the world and you just have separate episodes like that so you have separate makings that'd be interesting I'd be fine with that and you don't you wouldn't have to pay actors all these crazy fees because you're just you're not paying them up for multiple episodes

Right. Maybe we'd have two partners every once in a while. And then there'd be no leverage for the actors to get more money later because we already used you, dude. There you go. Yeah, that's a good idea. Anyway. But yeah, I agree with you there. Michael Cutliss knows how to direct.

Yeah, it was great. He was so good. The fight scene with Judith, dude, more of that, please. Oh, yeah. I forgot to mention that. She was a ninja. No doubt. Well, yeah, because Michone was training her.

Mishone trained her. She's a straight ninja. Yeah. She looked better than Mishone. right there. And I was like, dude. She's the new superstar man. For sure.

No, no. This is not a war. Just send Judith out there to be over in like 50 minutes. Well, no, no. You have the term wrong. You mean samurai. And our weekly thought from Facebook, Justin. Okay, I stand beside my prediction of Carol stepping into Michone's spot.

I'm more confident now. The musician guy needs to die soon. Oh, come on. I love Luke. He's going to. Also, do you think? with Negan escaping, this is where we'll find Lucille now and he is outside the walls again. Yeah.

I'd love it. Me too. I love it. Me too. Oh, wait a minute. Next episode, if we might have, it might not be next episode, but could be next couple. We might have the first Negan beta meeting. Oh, that would be cool.

And I also, speaking of violin boys, uh, weapon, you know, they made a big deal about that too, how they made it because it's motorcycle gears, you know, wrapped around and stuff. Shut up. It's a cool mace. And of course, we had Connie. Shut. He's a violinist. How does he rate that?

Well, you said you liked, I know you said you liked Connie and Kelly's slingshots. I do. The slingshots is kind of a good idea because it's quiet and it's a good killer. That's a good, I mean, the slingshot is like the crossbow and the bow and arrow, right? I mean, and even better because the slingshot you can use, you know, just sharp rocks, right? You don't necessarily need to retrieve arrows. But it's a good. The slingshots are good.

because you keep at pretty good distance, good accuracy, you kill them in the head, they're gone, and it's quiet. It's hard to be samurai sword. I mean, I think that would probably be my go-to. For one, it just looks awesome. And two, it's just, freaking samurai sword.

There's not a lot of us that can pull that off, Jason. Those of us that have practiced for years with the sword. You don't? I mean, two hours every day after school and work. All right. So next episode is titled What It Always Is. Supplies go missing from Hilltop. Negan is idolized by an Alexandrian.

Ezekiel holds a secret meaning. So we still have, in Alexandria, we still have the little secret group of Silence the Whisperors, right? They remember, they even, like, Daryl was wiping it off the door, and then they showed the other new sign that went up along the fence there that says Silence the Whisper. So there's still some people, you know, some graffiti makers in Alexandria saying going against the grain, right? And so, Negan idolized, I mean. Which is kind of what happened in the comics. And then Negan stabs him right past the border.

That dude's so dead. Good. That dude's dead. Luke is dead. I'm a little. Those two guys are dead. I agree with you that the kid that will idolize Negan will be dead. I don't think Luke is going to die

just because I actually like his character. And maybe the lawyer dies once Maggie gets back so you'll be free with your girl. That's what I'd say she needs to die. Those two are definitely on my list for definitely dead. She needs to death. Unfortunately, she stays alive throughout the whole comics. Umico and Magna are together throughout their entire

run in the comics. Yeah, but we've changed things. Yeah, we've changed things all the time. We don't follow that. Who follows that? Be sure to subscribe to Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher so you're alerted with Talking Walking Dead goes up. We do it every week.

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