Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S2 E8 | Talking Walking Dead | Dead City

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

Talking Walking Dead: Dead City  Season Two, Episode Eight…Season Finale…  Titled: If History Were a Conflagration     With myself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill & Maximus Fisher     SHOW DESCRIPTION:  Maggie makes a painful choice while Negan puts on a show    Each week we discuss the latest episode and what the future may and should hold.  We also discuss all things Dead.  Email the show [e-mail]  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 2, episode 8 of the Walking Dead, Dead City, titled If History Were a conflagration. That's an extensive fire which distores a great deal of land or property. This, the season two finale with the internal struggle of our heroes and villains deciding how they can take over and make the world right again. What will it take to make that world happen? Some things you just can't let go of. This is Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it. Myself, Jeff Fisher, Jason Butchell, and Maximus Fisher.

He's back. We take a look at the latest episode of Dead City. Yes, show description on IMDB. Maggie makes a painful choice while Negan puts on a show. Mr. Butchell is back from his covert operation. I think we know now what that was. Midnight Hammer comes to mind. Welcome.

Good to see you. On the ground. Just swimming. sweating and doing my part. I'll tell you what. Well, thank you. On behalf of a great nation. So we missed the last couple episodes while you were gone on your covert operation.

So you missed the Novi Dan, Novai Positac. And you missed the bridge partners are hard to come by these days. So I'm sure you're caught up. And before we get to the season finale, there were a few things that happened in those episodes that were pretty dramatic for the show. And so what did you think? Where are you at?

I mean, I didn't dislike the episodes. I really didn't. I thought the two before the season finale weren't bad episodes. I did take some notes because I didn't want to forget this. Having three episodes to watch was pretty insane to get caught up. How many pages of notes have you taken? Oh yeah, just, I mean, it's just page. Page after page.

I got three notes on the first episode I missed. Okay? These were the things that stood out to me on the first episode I missed. Okay. Okay. I just put very easily, Negan pushes out the Croat, you know, whatever. New day, new beginning. Yep.

I thought that was way past time for that. I put Psycho Chick is hurt because I didn't want to forget that. and I couldn't remember her name Jenny. Jenny? Yeah, wow. Jenny is her. She got stabbed by a branch. Which I didn't, I completely missed

and I was like, did she get bit? Like at sometimes, at points it looked like she got bit. Other ties, no. That was when the walkers all crashed into the foragers. But why was she so. Has it in a hiding? I don't know. That's why I was like, why?

Cost to her life. Spoilers. Well, yeah, sorry. And for the finale of this first episode I took notes on, cocaine bear. Yes, awesome. Yes. Yes, that was a good. What a tremendous scene.

I love the bear. I love the bear. That was great. That was inventive. It was fun. You know, you don't have to read too much into it. It was great. You know, it just good solid.

Absolutely. Sometimes you just need fun. I completely agree. I completely agree. Especially with a zombie show. Come on. This is not, come on. It should be fun.

The next episode, just going through these really quick. Everyone loses their minds. I was losing track of how many people were going insane on this episode. Negan having a concussion and Maggie going through sleep deprivation. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, right. I was like, it's, okay, funny. I didn't even think about sleep deprivation. I was like, is she just screwed up because she's afraid of heights?

because they kept talking about that? Yes, she won't. Yes. I think that was it. She also had that. She said in the beginning of the episode, she hasn't slept it like two days, so. Interesting.

And then all of a sudden, like when she would do those little scenes, it almost looked like she was like high on the, you know what I think when they had the meth poisoning or something? And I was like, is the Croat doing this somehow? Because he kept on slipping away at the last minute. I don't know.

Whatever. Next note. The Kid Walker Dormant. scene. Badass. Oh, yes. That was great. I love the dormant walkers. Okay. We talked about that. One of the things that was frustrating to me about that is that

just kill the kid. Oh, yeah, Chuckie. Just kill the kid. What do we do? That's on my note. What are we doing? Yeah. What are we doing? Just kill the kid. I mean, I know. Here, let me play Max. He's always loved kids. He can't kill kids. Shut up.

I was laughing because he was playing the game that you play with your little brother, you just put your palm on his forehead. Get away. And he fell and got a concussion. I loved Niggins come to Negan normalcy in this episode.

Where he said, I showed mercy. Gonna line him off and kill him all. Yeah, I know. We were all like, this is a Degan. He's back. He's back. I know. That's all it was. It was awesome. He was back. And we had every second of it.

We had the scene with his two wives. Right. Yeah. That was kind of pissing me off because I was like, how many of these insane psychotic we need? But they got him to the right direction, though. It did get him to the right direction. But it was kind of agonizing.

And then one thing Max pointed out that I didn't catch the first time was that when they ran through the dormant walkers, they didn't start moving until Negan touched. them. So we should have known that that was a figma of his imagination. Yeah. Yes. And my final note, the finale for that episode quoted word for word, oh geez dot dot dot, Madam Dam is effing alive. I told you. Dad called it. I remember. I will say this on an episode that you were not a part of. I was like, there's no way that she is. I'm sorry. You were right, and you were right?

I don't know how she pulled it off with another body and the ass. She couldn't have. Come on. Wait, what? Come on. There's just no way that she was going to die. And you called it. You were right.

She's stuck pleading for help. She weighs probably 80 pounds. Freeze herself and drags a walker there as like subdufewed. And Croat was there most of the time. Yeah, but then he ran off and came back. No, but it just, within the time that Croat leaves, she devises this, he puts a body in there and still alive and escapes. I know.

It was very hard to believe. However, that having been said, I knew, no way. No way. He called it. You called it. No way. Of course, and she's still not dead. She's still not dead.

What are we doing? The worst still in walking dead history. Okay. No. No. No. No. There's some fear villains that are worse.

Okay. I don't consider fear canon. I just forget it. I have a brain cloud on fear. That need to absolutely stay that way. But does that villain, does this villain, Madam freaking Dan, or whatever the hell her name is? I'm sorry, it's the dama. Show of a respect.

Shut up. She does not deserve this long, drawn-out. whatever the heck is it. Multiple season, I know. I know. Come on. Anyway, I'm caught up.

All right. So then we get into this episode, the season of now, and I will say, the last two or three episodes have been pretty good. I've been pretty good. And getting Negan back to being Negan again

with no mercy. Awesome. Awesome. Happy to have that. It was so fun seeing that again. Oh, okay, screw it. It's a small portion of time. Skipping ahead, screw it.

Because I loved it so much. When he healed Bruegel. When he had them lined up on the knees, there's a, there's a point, it was either before that or right after he put him on their knees where he got like a smirk. He was facing away from them and then turned around and started pacing back and forth, just like in the day. I was like, oh my gosh. It's happening.

It's all coming back to me now. It's hilarious when he picked, when he picked, when he picked the marshal and then he goes, but I really want to kill you. Which was a great death, by the way. That was a great walking dead death

the way he killed Brugel. I don't think it's ever happened before or will ever be duplicated in the future. That's how unique it was. Yeah, it was awesome. It was fun to see. Methadine explosion with fire and then bat to the face.

That's never going to be done again. That's awesome. I know. That felt really good. I felt really good. and I'm all for it. But even before that, when Brugel came in with his crew

and Negan had the dinner all set up and you assume oh maybe you put something in the food, they didn't put anything in the food, they had stuff under the table. Yeah, the double cross and then the double cross of the double cross. Yeah. I mean, that was fun. The statue had weapons in it.

That was fun. That's what I was funny. I wrote down as a note, dueling Trojan horses because they both had the same idea in different ways. That was fun I mean everybody is I mean that was the whole thing of the episode with

you know with you know Herschel Marshall and Marshall Neegh and Okay I have to ask Jason What do you think of this whole Herschel thing?

It's agonizing Absolutely agonizing It really is Pisses me off It's just stupid I think it's dumb He doesn't do anything I guess he throws knives

And he draws pictures Which is great I mean Hook him up with the historian And he could draw pictures for the history book that they're making on, you know, the new world. And we're good. Have a nice day. Your mom helped you survive this whole time, whether you liked her or not. And whether she couldn't, you know, every time she looked at you, she thought of her dad and she thought of

Negan and your dad dying from his hand. I mean, you still have had in today's world a pretty good life. So why don't you zip it? Okay. Yeah. He's the perfect, like, young teenager. because I guess because at first he was just like he was butt hurt because his mom wouldn't move on now he's butt hurt because she has moved on but won't kill him so right

in essence he wants her to go back to how obsessed she was over killing him before which made him crazy apparently now so I'm like what what and on top of that okay so Maggie I don't understand why Maggie just doesn't kill the dama I mean I get that

I guess we're in her old office is where Maggie was being held captive. That's my guess. I mean, that's just kind of a guess, but I'm guessing that was her old reviewers' office, where she would go and type out her great manifestos of how bad restaurants and plays were. And so I don't understand why she just doesn't kill her. Because she's such an intimidating specimen of a bad guy. That's why. Would you?

I apologize. I guess I'm just curious, though, that obviously she knocked her out and then we see her tied up. And by the way, I'm just saying, I love that scene. That was such a classic, like, Walking Dead. They're trapped and they have to figure out a way out. And she sees the keys, and her getting the keys was really good. Yeah, it was. And then, of course, you know, she gets caught by the dama and gives up.

That was another thing that really irritated me about Herschels. as soon as that scene comes up and you see she's tied up, Herschel ties up his mother for this chick. And I'm like, are you, what? Like, he was dead to me. I mean, he was already borderline dead to me. But then after that, I'm like, who cares about what this kid does next? Who cares?

I'm just saying this. I'm just saying this as a comparison. Imagine this exact same situation, exact same. But with Judith and RJ with Michelle. and Rick. This would never happen with those characters. Never. No. No. I never would. And

first of all, we'd go ahead and let Michone die and we'll be okay with it. Come on. Oh, darn. We lost Michone. Oh, well. Crap. Let's move on. We miss no, we miss her. We miss her a lot. Let's move on. But

it never would happen. Absolutely not. No way. So then you know, we've kind of, we'd jumped way ahead, but I loved the fact when after he's ready to kill Marshall, you know, Maggie gets, gets the knife in him and stabs him. And I thought I had mentioned at the end of last episode, is it possible we kill off Negan? Now, I don't think they would ever do that,

just because that's nice. not what they do, but I thought it would be an interesting way to end it. Just kill him and finally kill off Negan and Maggie and Herschel can, well, I guess along with the Dama could skip out of town and be happy. Yeah. But no, I was genuinely surprised. Like, at first my brain during that scene was like, are they actually going to kill off like a Colonel Armstrong, basically?

Like, are they going to kill him off? Because Negan was ready to do it. Yes, he was. that scene kind of irritated as I went from being so it was so cool to he just stands up basically and runs off and I was like

huh? Like what happened? And then like Maggie goes full Terminator T-1000 out of nowhere she's just like That was a good scene. He does that move where she like slices two throats right in a row and I'm like that was awesome. That was a good kill that was a good kill. What's happening here? We're just like

Negan's bad guys are just falling apart right and left. They suddenly just forgot how to breathe or something. I don't know. Right. And then so after they get stabbed them, Brugel, of course, uh, I mean, Nigan wants to get

to Jenny. Because that was the whole point. This surprised me. And, uh, yeah, I don't know that I expected Jenny to be dead, although probably should have. Uh, and he kept her alive to be dead. I like the twist of that. And, uh, that kind of is what

brought Maggie and Marshall and Nigan back together again was the death of her. Because they all, we all knew what it, what she meant to everyone, even though she was, you know, whacked out of her mind. Yeah. Which she was. No question. But it was interesting that, you know, the, the, the tree branch in the back or the side kills her. Okay.

All right. Sure. Well, she let it get infected for like two days. Yeah, I know. I know. I get it. And then, Negan went, and speaking of that, we'll just back up a little bit, when he went to get the medicine for her at the hospital run when he was having the, when he was, when he

had his hallucinations after him. He never found the medicine, but he found a ventilator. Yeah, we never see him bring that back. I love the walking dead time jump of that. He goes to the worst hospital ever that no one ever came out of in the city, on the run with no other humans, no guards. And then he just shows up back in the cellars with the

ventilator. Oh. Okay. Sure. I was convinced the way they were doing that, because that was at the same time Maggie and Croat were ascending their tower of terror. Right. And I was assuming that they were

actually at the same spot and we're going to run into each other there, just because that's how the Walking Dead works now. Yeah, sure. But no, no, there was two very different buildings. Giantic City, they go to the same spot. No, it was very different buildings. Imagine meeting you here. Hi.

Who would have known? I thought this was an office building, not a hospital. And I thought, and for two weeks in a row, we had an opportunity to kill Maggie and an opportunity to kill Negan. And we didn't do either. We came close to both, but of course, the Walking Dead world, you know, moves on. And that's what I read a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, quote from Gimple that said

they wanted to find a new iteration of Negan and Maggie, who can finally set aside their past and move forward toward a future where New York actually stands a chance of returning to civilization. Okay, well, while they're giving their final little wrap-up

of their world and their lives and where they're headed, because... New Babylon comes in. Because Marshall is looking at the Bush people rock. You know, the queen of the Bush people gave them that rock from the bird only know his episode. And that's where he starts talking about the man comes to his fork in the road. And they start telling the story. I thought, I told Max, this is it. This is the end. We're not

having season three. It's over. This is wrapping up. This is the way we ended. And they showed New Babylon, the Babylon B people marching into the city. And so we still have the Dama and Dingleberry looking on. New Babylon got the methane. And these three, are just together and the Croat is gone probably show up on Daryl because he's going to Croatia but he's going to end up

with Daryl and France they're not in France anymore where are they at season three starts at the in September right? September or October September September 7th so I you know

is the Croatic going to be on Daryl? I would I would say yes he's going to travel to he wants to go to Croatia he'll have to fly ash air remember and ash air will end up

dropping him off to Daryl I wouldn't mind that he's a good backup character you know like the evil guy behind the evil guy something like that or the evil guy behind the pathetic and he could be a good guy for Daryl until Daryl

actually finds out that he was part of the sanctuary and he was Deegan's boy. Then Darrell will have to kill him. Yeah. Visions of or sounds of Easy Street running through it.

Ronnie. But he was gone way before Darrell anyway. Still. Still, that was his Darrell would not be able to have him alive. But yeah, so we see the Babylon, we see a new Babylon come in. The historian

basically after one of the guards gets killed, Who are you with? What a gutless tongue. New Babylon. Anything. I mean, gutless, but anything to stay alive, right? You're definitely right, though, about how they ended it. I fully believe they're waiting to get either, I don't think, it doesn't feel like they've been greenlit yet.

No, they have not. They must have, I don't know if they're looking at ratings or what they're looking at. But that was clearly meant for, if they needed to end it there, they can. if there's an outcry or they suddenly get greenlit for another season, they've already got the plot set up so they can do it. The timeline's going to be tough. I mean, Negan is doing his game show now, and I don't know what Maggie is working on,

but I mean, he's got other things going on. I think they're going to have to, you know, work a schedule out if they're going to do it. If I remember correctly, we had the kind of same situation with season one where they didn't announce a season two, even after season one ended on a cliffhanger. They didn't announce season two until like a month later. Yeah. The ratings have not been very very.

good. I was looking at a report for the ratings and they've been really good for AMC and or AMC plus. They've been driving subscribers and those numbers for AMC plus have been good. But for regular cable, franchise low numbers through the books. I don't know that they, I don't know if that matters anymore to them. They might be putting all their eggs in the AMC plus basket. I mean, they could be happy because it drives the growth of AMC Plus, which I, you know, definitely understand that. But the numbers for the cable and the, also the audience, the audience ratings were lower for season two than they were for season. By the way, Jason, I want your opinion on this. Apparently a lot of people did not like this finale.

Really? Because of the ending or just the episode? I'm not exactly sure. Like, I'll admit, I haven't looked at a ton of reviews. I've just seen just like kind of general dislike. One thing I noticed that a lot of people were upset about is they were hoping Jenny would survive just so she can get more character development.

Oh, God. That was not on my top list of things that I had to have out of this finale. What happens to Jenny or character development? How retarded is that? Give me a break. I mean, she might have to bleep that. He went, no, we could say the R word. I just realized what he was saying.

What word you said that I was supposed to be upset about it? Remember, she fell down dying, trying to kill Deegan. That was her whole point. And, you know, Deegan was okay with it because, you know, obviously she didn't do it. But, yeah, we're, Ginny's character development was developed enough. Yeah, to the contrary, I think. thought that they did things in this episode that they should have been doing the entire season. So even small things like, and I know it costs more money, but they showed way more like panoramic

scenes of New York City. Yeah. The last year it is. The last three episodes have been a lot in New York City. Yeah. Just, I mean, I know that's heavy CGI and all that, but I mean, come on. You got like VEO3 now from Gemini and Google. You can do these things. So I, they should have been doing that since the beginning because it never really felt to me. There was one, I think in the first season, they showed like some skyscrapers and there was like, you know, walkers falling off the top. And it made you feel like you were in a big city.

Yes. But they got away from that. Yes, they did. Because walking through the park and staying with the bush people and then they'd be in the museum, the art building, or they'd be in the theater. It never felt like New York. Yeah. Right.

I think the Central Park thing was great. That they handled very well, but I definitely agree with you, Jason, that I wish they did more of what they did early in season one and I guess now late in season two. It feels like a city. Back to what was that season one of the main show. Is that when they went to Atlanta or is that season two? Season one, I think was Atlanta. That actually felt more Dead City at times than Dead City did. When they were in Atlanta, yeah.

Yeah, like when they first picked up Glenn and there was the Walkers. where it barely makes it out. I mean, that felt like Dead City. What about season one of, I get it, we joke about fear, but season, the first few episodes of fear where they were in LA. Oh, yeah. The first few episodes. First couple episodes definitely felt like Big City.

Yeah, most definitely did. And when, was it fear when we got our girl? What's her face? Was that fear? No, no. with the furry jacket or the crazy chick. Oh.

Yeah. What was her name? Princess? Yes. No, Princess was the main show. Princess was the main show. Okay. When we first met her.

Yeah, because she was in the city. That felt like a big city too. I get it. I mean, it's expensive to do those things. But if that's your entire concept, you should have some good ideas on how to pull it off. Yeah. And I definitely agree with you, Jason.

They definitely pulled it off the last. few episodes. The last few episodes have felt city-esque. At least better. Yeah. For sure. Which I was all for, no question. So we didn't have any Crow at all in this episode. He's just gone.

No, we might see him next season, or he'll be in Daryl, like your opinion, like your theory is. Yeah. But he was not part of that, which is really strange. So I don't know, you know, so the Babylon Bee people come to the city and they take it over and they fight the little uprising here or there

but most of the time what little uprising is left they won't take long and who has the knowledge for the methane other than Croat I mean that seems

I mean the methane is like plant is still operational like I get it they don't know how to, I guess, keep it operational, but at the moment it's operational. Yeah, when I guess you could start season three with Croat blowing it up, which is what I thought would happen in this final episode.

I don't see how I can, when I, at the end, when you saw the, you know, the Babylon B people walking in. Yeah. I couldn't imagine enrolled with the other big powerhouse groups in this entire universe allowing this to happen. Thank you. I was like, the timeline, I was thinking about that. I was thinking about that this morning, you know, between actual war thoughts.

Okay, so you have, but Commonwealth, who's in like the Boston, D.C. area now. And CRM is everywhere. Not anymore. We were told. Well, not really anymore after their military got defunct. Now they're just really based in Philly. Okay. All that infrastructure doesn't go away.

You know, I mean, it's like, I can't imagine them saying, oh, yeah, just take New York City. the largest in the country. Like, huh? Right, that has a guy that's working on a power, that has power. I know. And they came, boy,

didn't take them long, right? One minute we've got the lookout, looking down, and it takes the historian to go, oh, hey, look, there's a guy coming on shore.

Yeah, I know. Without binoculars or anything. Miss binoculars is busy looking. Was that blown here before? I don't know. And the next thing you know, we've got troops marching in the street.

That was pretty, I mean, made it a lot. I was laughing at that too. It's like, you know, the mighty island of Manhattan is being guarded by one chick with binos.

Like, what? And she didn't even see. And she didn't even see. Right. No, she saw the first boat. No,

she saw the second boat, but not the first. It took the historian to go, hey, what's going on down there? There's one guy. that's coming on shore. Is that normal?

Is that you a few fishermen? Know what happens every day here? I mean, you're the one up here looking out. You're supposed to know what's happened. You should just tell what's going on. I just really struck me kind of funny. That's all. I was like, what are we doing?

Anyway, you know, so we wrapped it up with the season finale of Dead City. It was a pretty darn good season overall, I think. I enjoyed the heck out of it. I don't. I don't think we're getting a season three. I think that was the end. I think that was the end. You're probably correct.

This season, I was really annoyed with the constant carrot on a stick for getting full unleashed Nigen. That pissed me off so badly. I know. And it was a great reveal when it happened. We got it. Yeah, but even with Gimple saying, you know, it's time for this new iteration. You know, they want to. No, no, it's not.

Scott, it's not. It's time for Negan to take over the damn city and be Negan. What are we talking about? Yeah. I mean, he's giving up everything now. Let him be Negan. Unleash him. I agree.

The only iteration Negan I want to see is either how he really is, or he's so pissed off because he can't be that anymore. He just goes and lives like a hermit somewhere. Which is what happened. Yeah, that's what happened in the comics. It's what happened in the comics. I'm fine with that. I'm fine with that. Yeah.

And, you know, that could happen. I don't know. I just, I don't think we're getting a season three. I think we probably are. Like, I don't think. The thing is with dead and specifically AMC, they will not let things, if you notice of the AMC,

they don't let things end randomly. I, they might, I feel like that wasn't a random end. They might cut it short. Like, I truly believe, I get it. They said it was a limited series.

If World Beyond, was considered really good, it wouldn't have just gone two seasons. But World Beyond had an ending, so they didn't just cancel it after season one. I don't think they would do that. Maybe the next season of Dead City is the final season

to wrap up the new Babylon arc, but I don't think that they would just end it. They're in a tough situation because they have no more source material on this stuff. So they're traveling further and further away from how the characters are. And not really in a good way.

So if you don't have the story that they love and you're changing the characters that we love, what really do you have that has anything to do with Walking Dead at all besides the zombies? And the name. Just the name. Yeah, that's it. So that's what really worries me.

That's, I'm sure, something that they're thinking about. I would love, listen, Scott, give me a call or email me to you if I at the blaze.com, because I would really love to get back to Tales of the Walking Dead and have like a different shows, two shows each. Talk about limited series, limited series of one to maybe three shows, arcs of different characters. Yeah.

And good characters like that. When they did the Tales, I really enjoyed a couple of those. Tales of Lock Down is some good episodes. And they deserve better than, they deserved more than what they got. Right. You don't have to. characters. Like you don't, like some characters you don't need

to make into good guys. You don't have to do that. They were cool as they were. Yeah. You don't have to make them likable. It's so stupid. We didn't fall in love with likable. Well, Negan was always likable. But we didn't fall in love with I mean, good guy Negan was a thing in the comics

too. That was a Kirkman decision. That wasn't an AMC decision. But what was? A good guy Negan. That wasn't a Robert Kirkman decision. Negan becomes a good guy. in the comics as well. Oh, no. Yeah, I'm not talking about that. I mean, even in the comic books, I thought he was cool.

And the only comic books I think I read of him are the ones that you gave me. And I was like, even then, even every time he was on the page, you know, he had a smirk and like a swagger. Okay, I got a good one. The governor, he was never a good guy. The governor, he was never a good guy. You always hated that man. He was a douche canoe, straight up.

Yeah, always. But, well, great character. But great character. Yeah. All right. So we have the end of Dead City. we do have Darrell coming up in September, so we've got that to look forward to.

Other than that, and I guess we can wait to see if we get a dead season three, or Dead City season three. But I'm saying that's not happening. I don't think we're, I think it's over. I think they're going to use schedule and conflicts

as an excuse and just call it. And what you got is what you got. But I definitely enjoyed this season a whole lot more. than I thought I would. I enjoyed parts of it. Oh. Yeah, I enjoyed parts of it.

I just couldn't get over the carrot on the stick with Negan. I won it so often. Didn't get it. Kind of pissed me off. But it did pay off big time in the final episode. Yes, it did. And with Maggie picked up the bat, That was awesome.

That was a great thing. Yeah, that was great with Maggie holding Lucille 3.0. And there was just, there was other, even beyond the lineup, which was amazing. But when you get full unleashed Nigan, you could tell Jeffrey D. Morgan was waiting for this. Yeah. Oh, yeah. He was having a great time. Oh, yeah.

Even in the big battle. Remember when the other guy stole one of the flamethrowers and he was trying, he was chasing? He was just kind of like strolling, half jogging, half strolling with no worry at all, you know? I was like, see, right here? Yes, that's the person we want. Absolutely. That is the person we want. I'm torn.

Yeah. I enjoyed this season. I think I preferred season one as a whole, but season two had better moments, if that makes sense. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. All right, Dead City, wrapped up. We'll see you in September for Daryl, and we'll wait to see if Ash Air gets Croat from New York City

into wherever Daryl's hanging out they're not in France now where are they at? I think they're in Spain. Oh, they're going to Spain? All right. So Daryl's touring Europe. That's great.

All right, welcome. Thank you for listening to Talking Walking Dead. We'll see you in September. There's a song there somewhere.