Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S5 E1 | Fear The Walking Dead

Episode Date: June 3, 2019

Season Five Episode One Fear The Walking Dead TITLED: Here to Help   This is ‘Talking Fear’ … With Jeff Fisher and Jason Buttrill  Special guest once in a while Maximus Fisher   EPISODE ONE ON IMDB Says Here to Help Led by Morgan and Alicia, the group lands in uncharted territory in search of survivors to help - but everything is not as it seems in this foreboding new land.   Join us weekly as we discuss the happenings from the latest episode and look ahead to the future of Dead… Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 5, episode one of Fear, the Walking Dead, titled Here to Help. That makes this the season premiere of Talking Fear. Welcome to it. Yours truly and Jason Buttrill on the season premiere of Talking Fear. Season 5, episode one, here to help us. Actually, it's just Here to Help is the title. Led by Morgan and Alicia, the group lands in uncharted territory. in search of survivors to help,

but everything is not as it seems in this foreboding new land, according to the IMDB description. My description would be, you know, the opening sequence was great. Then, uh, had some questions. This does not sound like usual fanboy Jackie. You're usually just like, oh, it was awesome. The opening sequence was great. And first of all, I don't remember, recall ever being a huge fanboy of fear.

That's true, that's true. Okay, I don't recall that at all. I was happy to see a number of things that are happening in this season. And if this episode is true to what's going to be happening, I could become a fanboy. Yeah. So the opening sequence, just like you described, was amaze balls. Like the first 20 minutes, I was like, holy crap, this is good. And then, but so went from that to I see what you're saying.

I think we're on the same page here. There was one thing that just seems stupid to me that one character should have known better. And then at the end, I was like, I see what they're doing. I see the direction. Yeah. This is freaking awesome. Yeah. Yes.

Yes. And actually, I think more than one character knows better. But I guess that wouldn't be a show then, would it? You know, we brought in the new kids. They found some, we brought in some new kids that maybe they'll come back around. I'm hoping that maybe we just see them dead, you know, strung up somewhere. Oh, they're so coming back. I think.

But they're coming back. I know. I know. They're like the kids. They started with the other kid. What's her name? Not Grace, but is it Grace? I don't remember.

I know like none of their names, which is horrible. It's like, it goes to, I guess, the character development that they've done is like, whatever. There's Morgan and a bunch of other people. Right. No, I'm talking about the little kid, right? Yeah, yeah. From last time that killed Nick and, you know, she's getting obviously grown up now, but.

And she's still rolling around. around with them. Yeah. Oh yeah. She's her main character now. She mean, she's one of the main characters. Yeah, she's there. So the kids will definitely come back. I will say this. Just as a, before we get a little bit farther into the show, I will say that when we found the kids and where the plane crashed, there was a roadblocks with walkers with intestines as ropes. That's why I didn't know if that was what it was or not. And there were walker heads hanging from trees, you know, chomping at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, at the, that's. mouth. If AMC doesn't make a billion dollars this Halloween with those, that's a mistake.

Straight up. Mistake. I already want my tree with heads on it. Straight up. See, AMC always, I think, loses out on like merchandise type stuff. Even though they've done some stuff, but like, imagine if George Lucas was in charge of merchandising there. Oh my God.

I mean, they have to turn that around, right? That's got, they have to turn around. I mean, because we know now with what happened in fear that they're now tying the TV show into the movies. Right? We know that now from what happened. We know that that's where there has all big happy family now. We're driving people to the movies. The movies are going to drive us back to the TV show.

It's all going to be one big happy family. So let's make sure that the merchandising happens because that's worth a – I mean, tell me you don't want six walkers in front of your house with intestines for Halloween. Like, yeah, guarding your, like, front entryway. Oh, my gosh. Oh, man, totally. With heads hanging from the tree. I definitely want it.

You know, and we'll get back to this, all the stuff or skip it over. But, like, that scene right there, I was like, you're, that there's not even a second thought in your mind that some really effed up people put that there. Right. You're just like, ah, screw it. We're going. Just keep going. Like, Morgan, you've just been through a Negan for crying out loud. And this is not like warning bells kicking off.

I realize that Morgan has, you know, he's always had some mental issues. That's been his whole story, right? I mean, his whole story has always been, you know, a little off-kilter. But at some point, even off-kilter, you've got to think, I know we want to help people and I know we want to do all this, but no, what are you thinking? And they're capable of that. Right. They're capable of pulling out their intestines.

And using it as rope to keep them blocking the road. Come on now. No one even brought that up. They spent time cutting heads off walkers and hanging them. Right. They've spent time doing that. But they just passed it off as casually as. Oh, so we put some yellow cones out there.

Should we go through it or not? Like, what are you taking? Those are yellow cones. Never mind. It's the radiation signs. Yeah. Never mind that. Ah, I don't worry about that.

Oh, yeah. Zuz is like, oh, crap. Yeah, radiation. Oh, well, screw it. We were worried about that. Yeah, we saw the signs. You know, what about the walkers? We missed those?

We missed those are the new kids, the new kids, growlers. Yeah, everyone's got their own name. I know. I know. That's got a nose. So we don't know where they're at, right?

The plane crash, we're not quite sure where they're at. She did mention going over some mountains. So, I mean, are we on the other side of the Smokies now? Are we back over into our neck of the woods? Did you say it over mountains?

I didn't hear that. I feel like, I remember when she was talking, trying to read somebody on the radio that, so we made it over the mountain or something. I just kind of feel like, so I don't know where, we're at exactly. You know, I'm not sure. The Smokies is a good guess. I'm not sure if we've

crossed over and now we're back over into our neck of the woods, you know. And you get on the, because if you're still on this side of the Smokies, that's where nuclear power plants are and stuff still. You know, I'm just talking about it in real, real life. So you're just trying to tie a little real life into into the TV show. Well, that's a really good observation you make because some of the articles I was reading afterwards were still assuming this was like East Texas. or something like that. Right. I don't think so.

Because we've already, the time frame has already passed most of that. I mean, they've been moving, right? They've already said that they've tried to, you know, they haven't had much luck trying to help people. Right.

So, I mean, they've, you know, killed a bunch of people and, you know, still staying alive or, and or not found anyone. Yeah.

So, I mean, they've, they've been on the move. But, but the, but their home base area still is in East Texas,

right? That's what they're assuming. Like their, their factory that they've commandeered. That's, Texas. Oh, yeah, I guess that's right. So that's East Texas, right?

Because that's where that guy... Yeah, yeah, that's right. Because that guy said he sent him to that... The L on C&L, Logan, right? Sent them to the farthest point he could find so that he could go and look at the factory. Yeah. And that was the gist of them going to save Logan, which was a...

What you were saying? Is it Morgan, what are you thinking? Right, right. I would just go off on a... I would just go off. Okay, we'll travel 8,000 miles to try to save this person. We have no idea is telling us the truth. Right.

So then our theory is that they're closer to home base, meaning Virginia. That's what I would. That's what I got. But you're right about now when you back up to where the, to where the factory is, right? The factory is, is that, well, is that still in Texas or was that in like Louisiana or Mississippi or something? I think the factory is in Texas, but that's what I think. But so the truck stop that they went to, right? Was that the original truck stop that they went to in the very, you know, like last season?

Yeah, I don't think so. That's a different one. Yeah, it was a different setup. Okay, because I was going to say if that is the case, then remember, they were in Louisiana. That's what I thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was so ridiculous at the time because when they were driving back and forth, they were doing it like in 30 minutes.

I was like, Texas is larger than that, you know? Yes. And that's where they had crazy lady. Right. Travel behind them and everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no. But I just felt, then she said something about going.

over. So maybe I don't know where they're at now. Now you've got me back to confused. We'll get back to the reason why this is important if anyone scratch their head right now is because this makes more sense when you think about the meta where they're going with this and when it links up to the movies. Yes.

Because it being closer to Virginia makes more sense to me. I thought so too. Because we're trying to get everything together, right? We're trying to make one big happy mesh. Let's come back to that. That's where we're at because I mean the gas station, you know that staging point at the gas station. I know, you know, your girl, your girl Alicia, something's not right, always bugging her, but your main girl, got the pipe through her.

Yeah. Wait, what are we talking about? She got piped. Wait, wait, what are we talking about? Are we talking about something that I didn't see happen because do I need to rewind this? What kind of show does this become? No, it was just my episode. I think of my episode.

It was just a Jeffie fear. Something you didn't Photoshop afterwards. It was just a Jeffie fear. So at that time, I mean, I know we're trying to save people and everything, but, you know, hang on. We did a lot to save her. We can't skip over how she ended up getting piped. Okay.

All right. I mean, that was an amazing sequence. Yes, it was. Okay. All right. Go ahead. So, like, you mentioned the kids, the plane flying over, decapitate, or not decapit, splits the walker in half with the propeller.

It splits the walker and half with the propeller, right? The kids are saved. And then freaking Alicia Popper. out, which I thought originally she was wielding like this video game giant sword weapon thingy to slice off a la Michone, you know, slice it and half. But it wasn't until later that I noticed that, anyway, that's not a sword. That's a propeller. It's a propeller.

Which was really cool. And by the way, I think that that should be her weapon. Totally. Instead of that stupid muffler thing. That's that muffler. Whatever it is. What is it? It's the end of a machine gun.

That's what I said to muffler. It's a muffler. He just goes on the back of a. truck. Shut up. Either way it's dumb. I don't care what it hooks up to because the propeller would be great. And you tell me, tell me her going through any kind of down the street in a building,

in an alleyway, just dragging that behind her, calling out the walkers with that propeller. That would be badass. Drag it on the ground or dragging against the wall like Freddy Cougar. That would be great. Sharpen that bad boy up. Those are leather to, you know, make a handle on the end. Yeah, definitely because she was, you know, whining about her hands. Cool.

Take your jacket off or something, dummy. Dude, that's what I, right. Yeah, you don't just have to, yeah. I was thinking of something. Something. I mean, there's got to be a walker you just killed as a rag that you can wrap around. She's got a shirt, rip that shirt off and wrap it around that. I noticed, I noticed, too, just as a side note about Alicia, there were a couple shots there that,

ooh, it seems to be, uh, did she have a kid? Did the off-season? Is she suddenly a kettle? I don't know. I mean, are you? Why would she be a kettle? I'm confused. I mean, it sounds like, you know, there's a pot making a very loud noise right now.

I make no bones about it. I'm making no bones about it. I'm just saying that, you know, she's brought to us as a person of beauty. All right. Unlike me. All right. And that person of beauty seems to have. It'll possibly go on a road other than beauty.

I don't know. Whatever she's doing, I'm still liking it. I have no issues right there. But I tell you what, they found a weapon that could rival the Negan bat. Absolutely. Straight up. 100%. I have no idea why we didn't keep it.

Merchandise that. Oh, you think they didn't? Yeah, they probably didn't even keep it. That's what I'm using. When the zombie apocalypse goes down, that's what I'm using. A propeller. We're going straight to the airport. Wait a minute.

No. Don't gather food. We'll be right back. We're going to DFW. Oh, we got a lion. That's close. That's right. Yeah, that's closer.

There's some prop planes out there. You're good. It'd be tough to get one from DFW. Anyway, you're right. So there's, I mean, there's three things right there. We've already made you. I don't know how many millions of dollars, AMC. You're welcome.

You're welcome. Listen. Just listen to us. Heads, bodies, wrapped, and just, let alone just the bodies. I mean, just sell in the, contestants that people can hang from their trees. I mean, you're welcome. You're welcome.

I want to cut. Hey, so what was that place where they were at? Was that legitimately a nuclear facility or something? No, I don't know. I have no idea. I mean, where they were at, you know, the gas station and stuff they went was some kind of stop being restaurant place that, you know, they had the barn out back where truckers would stop and everything. It was all fenced in. And so that was, you know, post-apocalypse gathering point, right?

At the, where they went because it had the CB and it had, you know, what looked like people had been there trying to survive. And then, you know, what's his face? Logan was back at the factory. And we saw how big the factory was and what was going on there as he walked through it, right? Yeah. That was pretty impressive. Yeah, it was.

And then when the fight, and then where the plane crest, yeah. I don't know. That's what I was saying. I don't know if it was on the other side of the mountain or if it crashed on this side of the mountain, which would leave them in Tennessee, which there are actually nuke plants there in real life, you know. But I didn't know. It was kind of hard to determine if there was actually a nuke site there. Or just the signs. If they just put that there to keep people out.

Because the little girl did say later, she mentioned the signs. Yeah. The signs are over or whatever. And she kept saying you guys don't know what you're dealing with, you know, who these people are. And then she was like, but never mind. I won't go into that. And they just left it at that. Okay.

Everybody won't go into that. No sweat. We won't ask you. Right. But Al caught the soldier, right? Al was the one that caught the soldier that had turned into a walker because she knew that there was something off with that. That was something right.

I will give Al that. But she should have brought it up. Right. Instead of trying to keep it to herself, I don't know what that. I mean, she knows better. Yeah. She knows better. She goes off by herself in the middle of this rainstorm to go see this soldier walker.

and she thinks she's going to be safe out there with her little flashlight on her camera. Yeah. Stop it. I know. But we did see, right, as the, when she pulled the paperwork out of the soldier before she got knocked out from a soldier that wasn't a walker, that the paperwork had the insignia that was the same insignia on the back of the helicopter that picked up Rick. Yeah. So they're trying to marry the, and I didn't catch that at first. Max was the one and I know that Max is usually here.

We were watching it. Yeah, I know. He's working this summer. So, you know, he'll be off and off and on some of these as he can. But my younger son, Max, usually joins us on the talking, walking dead and talking fear podcast. He's the one that's like, that's the same insignia. Of course he would recognize it as something that they'd used in the past. But I couldn't put my finger on it.

Wasn't sure what it was. So I instantly, of course, went to Twitter and everybody was like, He was calling it. Yeah, they were flooding it. Yeah, Twitter's full of maxes. I was like, holy crap, man. So, yeah, exactly what you said at the beginning of this podcast was they are totally, it's like they're using fear as the promotional arm for the movies. Yeah.

And we know that they're filming, we know that they're filming Walking Dead already right now. And we know that, you know, we've got another marriage between Walking Dead and Fear coming sometime in these next few episodes. episodes with Dwight. Yeah. Right? We know that we saw, we saw, what's his face looking at Al's videotapes and seeing Daniel. Yeah. And freaking out because he was, you know, he thought Daniel was dead.

Yeah, it's like crap. Right. He's like, no, that can't be. I thought I was rid of that guy. So that, but we don't see where he's at, right? We just know that he's still alive. How? That was saying, hey, he's still alive, which was, you know, which was cool.

And I can't wait to see him. I loved his character. And I'm glad that they brought him back. Same. I'm very glad that they brought him back. He's going to be a big part, big part of it. So I just was going to say, so my question is in the future. Are they going to marry the entire Fearcast to the movies?

To be honest, I think, and we may have even talked about this on talking Walking Dead last season. I don't know if we talked about it on or off the air, but I think that sooner than later, they're going to have to be, it's going to be one thing. Movies, TV show. And it's not going to be Walking Dead and Fear of the Walking Dead. It's going to be, you know, maybe just call it dead

or maybe just they all becomes walking dead or it all becomes fear or something. You know what I mean? But instead of having two shows, I think it just becomes one. Yeah. And maybe that, I don't know how you, I don't know how you get there with, uh, financially. Because, you know, you have two shows.

You're creating maybe, I mean, you end up probably saving money down to one. And you just make sure that the one thing, you know, between, between one show, the movies, and the show that comes on, uh, sometimes after the show and most of the time, sometime the same night that one of the dead shows air that brings in the stars and stuff that's all money for AMC, right? I mean, so, and then, you know, merchandise.

So, I mean, that's... Well, it makes sense if you think about it just from their strategy is they're about to run out of content from the creator. And they're about to run out of actors and actresses, right? Yeah. On the ones, there's only going to be a few of the strongholds from Walking Dead that are still hanging on.

The rest of them are gone. Yeah. Right? That we still care about. Right? We're gone this year. Mishone's gone this year. And we talked a little bit about that on, you know, talking Walking Dead is that, you know, these characters, there's only a few left that are worthy of our caring about.

you, hey, we want to keep this going because we like the world. But eventually the content will run out, but it doesn't matter because we'll marry the new characters from Walking Dead with the brand new characters of fear, tie them in with these movies that will kind of have go out for another five years, at least, something like that, and just keep this puppy on churning. Right. And you know, Rick is all, I mean, Rick is a huge part of it. I mean, they can't stop talking about Rick on the set here and on the set there. and his first wife in Walking Dead produced one of the fear episodes this season two. Oh, really? So she's still, you know, once they're, once they get, yeah. Really? Once they get their fingernails in the dead family, they're like, oh, well, sure, you know,

I might be able to stop by and produce a show for you for, you know, a few thousand. Yeah, yeah. You know, that's a good gig, right? If you're involved in it, by the way, I mean, you, AMC, call me. Why let go of it? That's a really great deal, right? So anyway, so we ended with them, you know, trying to figure it out. It's such a weird thing that they, you know, are out to help all these people.

I think that hopefully this was going to put them over the top of maybe we need to not help them. But Morgan and Al and then Cowboy and what's her face, the two lovers, they pretty much had the same kind of speech, right? About we have to, we're here to help people, and that's what we're here to do, and that's why we're still alive and because we have to help people. I would say, we're here to get a propeller and kill people.

Yeah. Is my goal. So your last thoughts on this episode? Yeah, I loved some of the sequences, some of the fight sequences, everything. I love the ending where how they kind of set that up. It's got my brain churning about this group, and it's got to be Commonwealth.

instead of the white armor and the Commonwealth that they have in the most recent series in the comics called New World Order. I think they just changed it to black armor. It's what it looks like. It was kind of cool looking armor. Yeah, that was dope. So that's got to be the direction they're moving.

I personally like it. The thing that was stupid was Morgan knows better than this. He knows better than just go out on the radio and say, hey, does anyone need help and just show up like the white knight? You know what I mean? Like, hey, I'm here to save you all. You know this world.

You know it's dangerous. You don't just show up like that. So it was a stupid mistake. Stupid not to ask questions. Like, wait a minute. Why are you guys nervous about moving? Who's out here? Are these people you're talking about?

Not even a single question. Just like, screw it. We're going. And we talked about that with the kids, right? It was like, oh, never mind. No, we can. No, go ahead. Tell us.

That's what I mean. Yeah, yeah. It's so stupid. Tell us. That's the first question you ask. Like when someone says, oh, you can't, kids get, you'll never believe what I got you for Christmas. You're going to go absolutely.

insane. What's the first thing they say? What is it? What is it? So the characters didn't even do a, what is it? Who are they? Well, they were concerned with what's your face getting piped? Anyway. Well, she'd already been piped at that time. I got to come to your house and watch a show because I think you're watching a different version of it than the time.

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