Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S5 E16 | Fear The Walking Dead

Episode Date: September 30, 2019

FEAR THE WALKING DEAD TITLED:  End of the Line This is Talking Fear… With myself Jeff Fisher and Jason Buttrill EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB Facing an unknown future, Morgan leads the group on... a mission; Al puts the pieces together; John and June make a promise. Listen each week as we discuss the episode and look ahead to what the future may hold… This was the final episode of season five Reminder: Join Myself, Jason and Maximus for ‘Talking Walking Dead’ Monday 10/07/19   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Season 5, episode 16, Fear the Walking Dead, titled End of the Line. And thank you, Jesus, it was and is the end of the line. Welcome to it. Talking Fear, that is, with myself, Jeff Fisher and Jason Butrell. Episode description on IMDB, facing an unknown future. Morgan leads the group on a mission. and Al puts the pieces together, John and June make a promise.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I mean, okay, I know we've gone round and round about this season, and, you know, this was the end of season five, but I mean, I don't know, Jason. I don't know. I don't know where I'm at. This was the, oh, man, this was the perfect episode to show, or to, I don't know, to, to explain how we hate the show this season. Because like, it's got so much potential.
Starting point is 00:01:18 And like we've said before, time and time again, the visuals are cool. Herding a herd of walkers is cool. But like, the fact that nothing made sense, everything was so, all the choices they were making were so agonizing. Right. I was, I wanted, I, I watched this on DVD. because I was watching Cowboy game last night. Which was a, by the way, just a side note, the Cowboys look great. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:01:42 How dare you, sir? But I kept wanting to fast forward. I did actually. I was fast forwarding through some of the dialogue because I was like, I can't handle this. I literally can't. It was late. I was like, I cannot believe. I've refused to believe that after everything they've been through that Morgan made that call
Starting point is 00:01:59 and was like, yeah, come on, come help us. Thank you. It's like what? We even talked about that last week. What are you doing? What are you kidding me? I don't. Yeah, I just don't understand it.
Starting point is 00:02:07 I had hope. So like at the beginning when Dwight ran off and, you know, he saw the horses, I was like, hey, maybe Virginia came and something happened. This is their horses. And they're all dead or something now. When they started it off, I thought I wrote down on my show notes, Dwight on the run. And then I put in parentheses, he comes back to save them question marks.
Starting point is 00:02:26 So I figured, he came back earlier than I thought. You know, I thought he would be the one to come back and save them against Virginia. Yeah. Saying, you know, at least growing a set. Back to where he used to be. But no. But kind of. Kind of.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Bringing the horses. But kind of. You know, he was like, that's enough. We got to do this. Right? So, I mean, he was sort of the old Dwight.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I will say, I gave Justin, our Facebook commenter, a shout-out last week. And I'll give him one quick shout-out from this week. He posted for both you and I on his Facebook messenger.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Hey, thanks for the shout-out on Talking Fear. By the way, you're welcome. He said, I'll try it out next week. But if Daniel doesn't remember, that he led the herd away using nothing but a 1995 boombox back when he was back at the warehouse, I request a riot. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Stuff like that. Yes. So ridiculous. Right. And then, but Morgan himself also has a purpose, himself has been a part of them, you know, a massive operation to clear, you know, different areas for them instead. This is not out of the realm of possibility for this group at all. Not even close.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Although that one visual, they had like an overhead shot of the gulch and all the walkers that were inside. Yeah. That was pretty cool. That was really cool. It looked like a ton in there. Well, I mean, Virginia said it was 263 souls, but I don't know. It looked more than that on the shot. And it certainly didn't look like 263 in the herd when they were surrounding what they were out there hurting them like cattle with the horses.
Starting point is 00:03:58 No, no, it didn't. Let me see that. I mean, we can get into that later, but I mean, they missed a golden opportunity just to show them doing all that stuff. Like it was just all of a sudden, they were all out of the gulch. You notice that? They decided they were going to let them out. Dwight brings the horses back.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Okay, we're leading them. We're down the road now. And then it was done, and they were just walking around the gulch. Like, good job, guys. I was like, you missed it? This could have been the best part of the show right here. I know. And just skip through the entire thing.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Plus, I did, I don't know if we talked about it off the air or on the air. I barely remember what time I got up today. When we talked about the gulch and last week when they showed up and we didn't see any of the parking areas or it was just, hey, here's the here's the thing. But they did actually have some of that this week, which was kind of fascinating. Did they? Yeah. You get to see because they were in the, they were in kind of the back area. That's where they were talking.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And then you could see like that, that building that they were originally in was like the, you know, the place that you'd go for, you know, gulch corn dogs. and then there was the big parking area out back. Yeah, there was. I didn't see the parking area. Yeah, it was the big space up back where people would park, yeah. Well, there definitely was like a main road
Starting point is 00:05:14 to go down to park in that parking lot. Oh, yeah, it was right over there. It was right over there. You saw the huge bridge over the river and everything shakes you right to the Gulf. Yeah, that the only road was like the one that I guess Dwight saw the horses on. Right, where the cars had broken down.
Starting point is 00:05:31 But that was like a dirt road, like a pasture road or something like that. Yeah, I mean, it was a side road, farm road. So speaking of, that was what made Dwight come back. Because he was like, oh, it's the horses. That means they probably found water somewhere. So that means there's a water source. So screw it.
Starting point is 00:05:48 It's back on. I'm coming back. I was like, what? And are you kidding me? These horses just walked around for like, who knows how long? Like weeks, months? No, they were just out rolling. Kind of circling around there.
Starting point is 00:06:01 That's what horses do. Have you never been around? horses before? They just circle around the gold. Circle around the golds. Actually, that's when I figured that they were golf horses, right?
Starting point is 00:06:10 So that's where they, they know that's where they belong or where they belonged in the past. And I actually did think that that they were, you know, gulch horses. Really?
Starting point is 00:06:19 From the get-go you did? Yeah. When they came up, I was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense that they would be close because they're, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:25 that's where their home was. Well, I guess it was my hope that the Virginia deal was going to backfire. Because I just said, I was assuming, hey, maybe it's their horses. Me too.
Starting point is 00:06:33 So, Because I was like, seriously, really, they can't be doing this. There's no way Virginia and the gang are going to win here. There's no way. Can't. Can't happen. Can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 The whole time I'm thinking, no. Because if you thought the show sucked before, it's, think about how much it's going to suck then. And that happened. Yes, I know. I know. And you saw, I will say that it was nice, a lot of the area, a lot of part of the show, it's good that Daniel is still doing his work on haircuts because they all have nice haircuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I love that. But so we're leading, we're leading the herd, we're circling them, we're out in the field, which wasn't 263, no way. I still don't understand why we have to, I mean, they were like circling them so close. So, I mean, I guess that was just for the tension and the excitement of the possibility of what happened to Dwight as he jumps off the horse and gets surrounded by walkers. Manufactured conflicts. Kills the horse.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Right. Got to, got to make it up. it's not there, I've got to make it up. It's the only thing. Because we've seen in the past, literally, you'll just have,
Starting point is 00:07:38 like, I remember, Darrell did that all on his own. Was it last season or a couple seasons ago on his motorcycle? Remember just barely driving? Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:47 That's what they were doing. They were leading them. That's all they had to do. You didn't have to like, ha ha! Ha! Ha! Come on.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I mean, I get what you're doing. It's kind of cool to see a cattle drive with this herd. Yeah, of course. But literally all you have to do would just walk your horse
Starting point is 00:08:05 at a, you know, not even a trot. Just ahead of them. Just ahead of them. Just a little bit ahead of them and they'll follow. You pretty much know that you should now that the walkers don't run. They don't run. They're not going to meander off and go chew on some grass and start chewing their cud, you know, in some other direction.
Starting point is 00:08:24 They're just going to keep walking straight. There's a little hot walker over there in the bushes. I'm going to go over this way. Check that out. Yeah. Who are you? It's over there. They don't do that. So we hook them down to the, and then, of course, they chase manufactured with Dwight down by the river. You know, they're going to hurt them into the water. So they lose all the walkers and Morgan and Dwight hide in the bush.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Okay, that one walker went, hey, there's a live people over there. I'm going to go over this way. Nope, I'm going to go into the river. It's just, okay, I got it. But I did, I guess it was, you know, I did appreciate the walker. Falls, you know, in the river as they were going down. Again, there were some good shots, right? Some good shots of that.
Starting point is 00:09:08 So why did they abandon using the walkers as a weapon? Because I was all in on the show at this point, even though it was kind of stupid, some things were kind of stupid, but when they were going to use the herd as a weapon to fight back. Absolutely. I was like, finally. Yes. You know, finally this is going in a direction I'm liking. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:26 And I just, I missed, maybe this is one I was fast forwarding. Why did they decide we can't use them as a weapon anymore? Because they, they, Dwight got surrounded. That's what it was? Dwight got surrounded. And then they, they were going to, they were going to drive the herd. And then they were told wait. They had to wait because what's her face was there?
Starting point is 00:09:47 They didn't want to drive the herd in because their other girl was there that was left for the oil. Oh, that's Luciana. Yes, Luciana. That's what it was. They said hold up because Luciana's there. So during that holdup is when Dwight got surrounded. and then they just, they had to go save Dwight and Morgan. And why in God's name, Morgan brought Grace along for the ride.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I don't know. She can barely walk around because she's so sick, but we're going to let her ride along with me on the horse. Yeah. I don't understand. Yeah. I mean, she can stay back. It's all good.
Starting point is 00:10:22 I mean, let her rest. Yeah. She needs rest. We haven't got any intervenous water for you today. Sorry. I was just mad. Yeah. Just maddening. Why would just the mere presence of Luciana make them abandon their entire plan?
Starting point is 00:10:37 I don't know. I don't know. Because I guess they thought the herd of Walker was going to just wipe out everything and they didn't want to wipe out her. Yeah. Okay. So was that their plan? Was that their plan? Was this that they were going to wipe Virginia's group out? I guess so. Or just deter them and make them go away? Either or. It must have been just to make them go away. So I don't see how Luciana's presence there changes any of that.
Starting point is 00:11:03 She's going to be fine. Right. She's rolling around the MRAP. She's fine. You know what I mean? Come on. And then, well, the MRAP couldn't go anywhere, right? Because Victor had the starter.
Starting point is 00:11:15 That's why he... That was the other thing. What? Oh, my gosh. And how did Daniel even let that go? I know. He just watches him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Go ahead and give it to him to him. And then afterwards, he's like questioning it. I'm like, shut up. You had your chance to question it before. just maddening. I know. And then Strand later is like, we can, we can, we'll be more, you know, effective, you know, from within. I was like, no.
Starting point is 00:11:43 No. You could have fought them. You have a place with a water source. The horses can, you know, feed, you know, water themselves at. Um, and you have the ability to deter them. So why are you going and just giving them the keys to your most, you know, your most dangerous weapon? I mean, see, it was something like that every five minutes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Or you wanted to be so into, you know, you wanted to get into it. You wanted to like it. And then, oh, yeah, they're doing, oh, it was like the entire time. I know. And then we decide that, hey, Virginia's coming. And she's, we've already told her that, hey, come and save us. And so as long as we're waiting until she gets here, hey, let's do, you know what, why don't you two get married?
Starting point is 00:12:26 John and you, you guys wanted to get married all along. Come on. Let's get everyone without any lookouts at all anywhere into the church and have this wedding, which, by the way, almost a musical at the end. Yeah, it was. Almost a musical at the end. It was really close of all, everybody breaking into song. Oh, my gosh.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I was waiting for a wheelchair boy to start spinning around and singing too. I wanted them all to start singing and dancing. Yeah, and it was not only just the wedding that was stupid, but they, what's, Alicia and the other guy start painting a mural? You know, that was before, yeah, that was before, like, we were going to do what we came here to do. So you guys go paint. Live our lives or whatever. I was like, come on, dude. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I don't know. And I can't believe that Daniel let them split up, split them up with Charlie. I can't believe, I can't believe there were too many things that it just wouldn't happen. Yeah, Morgan. It just wouldn't happen. Morgan was like, yeah, the stipulation is we all got to stay together. And then no. And she was like, okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:13:31 You know, she gave in. She's like, yeah, okay. And what's the first thing they did? I'll break them up. Break them all up. Well, she said he knew that because her line there, when she agreed, then she said that one line, like I think it was goodbye yesterday, hello tomorrow, or something like that, her line.
Starting point is 00:13:50 That's the line that she uses, I think, when she's just going to kill everybody. Yeah, okay, you're right. Goodbye yesterday, hello tomorrow, or whatever her stupid line is. But that's her line of saying, yep, that's to her people. Don't worry. We're knocking them out. I'm not really agreeing to this. Has she said that before?
Starting point is 00:14:12 Or is this your theory? That's my theory. Oh, okay. But I think she has said it one other time. I don't remember when it was, though. But anyway, it doesn't matter because there's only been on, I don't know, a couple of episodes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So the whole breakup thing was really breaking them all up and letting that happen was kind of agonizing. The whole thing of splitting everyone at John and June, Morgan and Gray's, Charlie and Daniel, and the cat, and the whole, I mean, it just, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to me that they would, that that would be allowed. It was almost, I know, like, somebody would riot or, you know, that would not go down like that. It would not be allowed. Unless they had been so put in their place and so demoralized, they, they could, they had no other choice. Reason I say that is the example is what, kind of what I, kind of what I. felt like they were trying to give you the sense of was when Negan went into Alexandria
Starting point is 00:15:06 and started taking all their crap. Remember taking all their guns, food, beds? But he didn't break them up. He wanted them together so that he could have them defeated all right in front of them. Right. But same thing. Remember how you felt like you were just like, oh my gosh. Like you were just, you, the viewer was demoralized.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Yes. Yes. And but you got it. But I never felt that with her. Oh, no. Because it didn't make sense. It's like they were cosplayers that had a few guns, but so did. your group. So why are you giving in at every step of the way? That's why it just doesn't jive.
Starting point is 00:15:37 It makes no sense. But anyway, I thought that's what they were trying to like make you feel. It just wasn't believable at all. And like we said, there's no way John is going to go away quietly like that. Without June? Take my new wife. Go ahead. Yeah. We all good. We just got married. So we're good. Yeah. I put I put my buddy's ring on her finger and I've got his other ring. tied around my neck, so we're fine. Don't worry about it. It was like a bad version of the joke, you know, hey, take my wife, please, see ya. Those are good jokes.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Don't be messing with Henny Youngman. I love that guy. I've tried to remember my one foot. Now I'm going to start doing Honey Youngman jokes. I don't want to. I love that guy. You talk about a guy that had an actual, an actual roll-a-dex of one. wife jokes, man.
Starting point is 00:16:32 It's the guy. Just stand there with his violin and tell wife jokes. So then we get to the end. We get to the end of the show. They've already got it split up. And of course, you know, that Virginia wants to kill Morgan. But of course, she's got to speechify instead of just shooting them. Because that's what you do when you're a bad guy.
Starting point is 00:16:58 This is your speechify. Yeah. And Morgan jumps in. and gives her a quick whack with the stick. But he gets shot still. And then I thought it was pretty good that the gun misfired. I know the spoiler alerts, but, you know, get over it. The last show of the season, tough.
Starting point is 00:17:15 And then the gun misfires on her, which was great. And she doesn't, there's no other gun anywhere in America in the gulch anywhere. So she's just going to drive away because a couple of walkers are coming. What? I mean, if she really wanted the guy dead, you're going to kill him. You want him dead. Yeah. Plus, there's got to be multiple bullets in that gun, right?
Starting point is 00:17:35 Wouldn't you just, like, kind of click over to the next bullet and then try that one? I mean, I guess. And I like to go back earlier when they were talking about how they were going to fight Virginia, and they were saying they only had a couple of, you know, they only have, you know, some weapons and a few, a little bit of ammunition left. But they had plenty of ammunition to shoot walkers when they didn't need to. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:57 You know, when they're out riding of the herd and John is just popping walkers in the head, why? Yeah, because they were too close. I don't know, ride the horse away. Take the horse in the other direction, stupid. The walkers are stuck at like a crawl speed. Right. Literally. Just be a little more brisk in your walking.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I just didn't understand. So we're supposed to believe. And then we find out that Virginia is going to be nice and says, I thought for sure that that guy wasn't a nice. doctor for grace. I thought for sure it was just, you know, wasn't a doctor. I was waiting for Virginia and go, he's not really a doctor. He's just going to take her off and kill her. You got that Morgan? Because I'm going to kill you too. But no, apparently it was some kind of doctor. And we find out that Grace isn't sick or have any nuke poisoning or anything like that. She's pregnant, which isn't
Starting point is 00:18:53 Morgan's kid. Right? It's got to be some nuclear power plant guy's kid. Again, why? Like, what does that add to the story? I have no idea. I mean, again, it made me feel like it was back to square one. And I was like so. For the two of them in that storyline. Yeah, it was like so? I know.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I know. I kind of expected her not to be sick with the nuclear thing. Yes. Because that just seemed kind of stupid to bring them through that entire, like, arc. And then she just dies because of the nuke thing. Just seemed pointless. But so this, though, is just like, okay. You know, like, I don't like.
Starting point is 00:19:30 I don't know. And no reaction. And June, the nurse, doesn't come up with the idea that, you know, you might be pregnant. Oh, yeah. The whole time, the whole time that we're out looking to replace your fluids around the world looking for two huge bags of fluid. Oh, we found them. We don't think, you ever think you might be pregnant? I mean, you have sex with anybody in the last few months?
Starting point is 00:19:55 How long has it been since your last cycle? Right. Something. And that's standard questions. I think most nurses ask for everything. I mean, I'm not a nurse and I would ask it. I mean, if you were actually taking care of someone. Agonizing.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And now we're to believe that the end of the show. I know this is going to be a spoiler. So just if you don't want to hear the spoiler, move on. But tough. We're supposed to believe that Morgan is going to die, right? Yeah, because there was like seven walkers or something like that. converging on him. He's shot.
Starting point is 00:20:31 He crawls up, not into the church, but to the outside of the doorway of the church. And starts talking on the walkie-talking to no one about whatever. And then the walkers are supposed to be, are coming up on him. And we're supposed to believe that he's going to get eaten by walkers, right? He is the main character on the show. And you didn't kill a single character. Not one. in this episode.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Not one. Not even a low level, nobody. Not one. So they, after all that, they think that is a cliffhanger? We know someone's going to come save him. Have to. You know who I think it is? This is my theory.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Because they foreshadowed Sherry or Cherry or whatever in so much. I think she comes out on the season opening and she rescues him. That's what I think. It says you can't tell Dwight. Huh? You can't tell Dwight. he doesn't even know where Dwight is now, right? Because the Virginia's got them all broken up all over.
Starting point is 00:21:31 So now it's in reverse. Now the two of them have to go find Dwight. Yes. Oh, gosh, that's what it is. Yes. That's what's going on. I know everybody. I saw some theory about bringing Madison back.
Starting point is 00:21:42 Get over it. She's not coming back. She's dead. Yeah. Come on. Nobody wants her back. I'm sorry. Now, I will say that the last couple seasons of fear has made me think, you know,
Starting point is 00:21:51 maybe they bring her back. It might be better. Try anything at this point. But, it's not Madison but I love that theory that's exactly what it is so it's just reversed now
Starting point is 00:22:02 now they're gonna go have to find Dwight yeah he was searching for her the entire time that final episode with the rings and everything
Starting point is 00:22:09 she's there she's there and she's going to yep because he thought he heard her you know he talked to her there on the walkie
Starting point is 00:22:16 so she's got a walkie talkie I mean doesn't everyone yeah oh yeah of course it's standard issue yes
Starting point is 00:22:22 I mean if you were anywhere in a hundred mile radius of the gulch. You have a walkie. So I did love that we also have a petition to fire the showrunners from this year. Really? Yeah, on change.org they want, because of the season was so.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Now, obviously, it's just funny. You know what I mean? It's not going to happen, although it should. That's hilarious. So bad. So bad. That's hilarious. They cannot, as soon as they run out of source material on anything, they just have not,
Starting point is 00:22:52 historically over the past couple years or so, they've, None of the, on any show or any movie, when the source material runs out, the show sucks. The Star Wars movies suck. The, you know, look, we've covered. I know, I know it's ground that we've covered, but really was disappointing this season when we have such talent to use. And they used none of it. We just ran in circles all year. And, you know, you're right in saying that it would be, it would.
Starting point is 00:23:25 be better to just let the episodes be standalone. Yeah. Without trying to tie everything in. It would be much better. And then you'd be even better off. But they still trying to tie everything together. So next season is going to be getting the group back together again, right? It's going to be Sherry and Morgan, get Dwight, and then they're going to go find the others,
Starting point is 00:23:49 because Dwight is going to have heard where some of the others are. Because he's, you know, trying to play a lot. long. And so we're going to have to find the others and kill Virginia. Yeah. There's season six for you. And that's going to be agonizing because it's, again, the way they have it set up is very, very clever for their little business model.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Because how they did it this year, they had to figure out some way to where they could use all this talent, but not pay them all. So they could only pay them for like the two episodes they were in or whatever. And they're going to break them up next year. That's why they did it. That's why they did it. Yes. They won't have to have.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Daniel probably cost a lot of money. You know, all of them together costs a lot of money, right? I mean, maybe not separately, but altogether you're looking at a pretty good budget. Right. On top of the creation of the show
Starting point is 00:24:40 and the walkers and everything else. Now, they're shooting in a field in Texas can't cost that much. Right. Hello, Mr. Johnson. Could we rent your 10 acres here that you're doing nothing with? Sure, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Yeah. I bet you, they probably had to build the gulch. Yeah. So that's kind of surprising. Yeah, well, they had to build them all over. They're all over, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's true. You see them all, I can't, I can't.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Doesn't that piss you off on Saturdays? It gets so crowded because everyone's going to a different gold location. It backs up traffic for miles. Let's go to the one in Oklahoma. No, no. That's full too. It's so bad. So, I mean, you know, I really want to like the show.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I really want to like the show. And they've really walked me down a road where it's going to be very difficult to come back to it. Do you remember that, that little, I don't know, it was like a little mini series they did and it played like during the commercials for, uh, that was online. Yeah. It was like the, what was it, the red. Something like that. Something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:40 Those, because I remember those were less little one-offs. I actually enjoyed, I think, those better than I'm enjoying the show now. And again, it was because I like the setting. Yeah. I like the overall, you know, zombie thing. But you didn't, there, you weren't expecting some. crazy grand story to come off of it. On top of which, right, on top of which, guess what?
Starting point is 00:26:02 With the exception of maybe one or two characters, and that's even pushing it. But let's just say, with the exception of one or two characters, I'm not opposed to people dying. Yeah. That's the show. Yeah. That's what's going to happen. I want the reaction of the people surrounding.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I want that reaction to the death of someone that meant something, not just. we're going to do good. Oh, okay. Great, we're going to do good. That's special. That possibility is what I think probably made this. I mean, it contributed in a big way to why it's so popular. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:39 You just didn't know. You know, it was like Game of Thrones. We've said that before. Yes. They were very similar in that you just never knew if the main character was going to end up getting killed or whatever. Now, you know, obviously, right. And I mean, Game of Thrones started that way.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Right. I mean, they built up a character that you thought was going to be there forever, dupe. And that show would not. have taken off if he wouldn't have died at the end no way i know i know but have been alive that'd been it you're absolutely right yeah that death makes that and so those deaths that's what i want i want the reaction and the and the the feeling and and the outlashing after of when someone close dies but you know take a deep breath because walking dead begins next week i can't believe i'm surprised
Starting point is 00:27:24 season 10 is next week wow not even a week no we don't know we don't know I don't give people. After this last episode, they were like, dear Lord, start the walking dead. Start it. Don't even joke around about it anymore. Just start it. I wonder if they'll try and do any kind of crossover
Starting point is 00:27:40 into the Walking Dead for this. You know, I don't know. I thought that that's what they, we talked about, I thought that's exactly what they were going to do with fear because originally, as we talked about, that was what Morgan was taking them to, right? People that were trying to build something else.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah. And then we took a plane ride somewhere over mountains that there aren't don't exist and then we get we're lost and wandering into circles they'll be they're smart if they i don't know like show that symbol again somehow and in this season's season of the walking dead or show the helicopter again i was just going to say virginia did say to al you're going to have to tell me about the helicopter right because she doesn't know about that so the helicopter is the crossover right the helicopter people are the crossover that's how they're linking it yeah it's got to be yeah it's got to be they'll be smart i mean have you heard any
Starting point is 00:28:28 Anything about the movie, the TV movie? I heard nothing. No, I haven't, but as far as I know, that along, the regular Walking Dead, fear, and the movie were supposed to be 2020. So that's what it was supposed to be. 2020 was supposed to have all three. That's, man, that's coming up fast. I know.
Starting point is 00:28:53 I know. We're already there, right? So we're looking at, if you're looking at that, then you're looking at season 11. for walking next year, season six for fear, and the movie all, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:06 within the middle to end of next year. Good luck. You know what? And again, they're going to be smart. Like, you know all those like Warner Brothers or like the WB
Starting point is 00:29:15 or CW or whatever it is, they have those superhero shows. And they'll have like a solid, like they'll have one season or like several weeks where it's crossovers between all. So they're smarter if they do something like this
Starting point is 00:29:27 and that's what I hope they do. is you'll get a, you'll get fear, and they'll do crossovers into the movie while the movie is going on. And then maybe that ends or something like that, Walking Dead fires back up and they have crossovers within that. Right. That would be cool. And one of the ways that you could do that is John watching the wedding for movie night. Remember June gave him the movie or movie night. Anyway, you know, what do I know?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah. So we've got season 10 of Walking Dead next week, Sunday night. So that means talking Walking Dead with, we'll be back on Monday, next Monday. I am really looking forward to next week's Walking Dead. And I'm this season, and I know, don't look at me like that, I know. I've been through the promos of Walking Dead before. I know the seasons do tend to drift away from where you thought it was going. But I think this season, I feel like this season's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I feel like it's going to be good. Seems like it. I know. It's going to be hard to screw up because this is like real, this is prime content right here. And especially coming off, coming off fear.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I mean, it's going to take at least a few weeks for you to go, pooh, man. Yeah. I mean, anything is better than that. Coming out this season, we're going to be like,
Starting point is 00:30:45 dang, they're going to take all the Emmys for this season. Whoa. Why does this seem so awesome? I know. So I will see you next Monday for Talking Walking Dead.
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