Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S5 E6 | Fear The Walking Dead

Episode Date: July 8, 2019

SEASON FIVE EPISODE FIVE EPISODE SIX FEAR THE WALKING DEAD TITLED: THE LITTLE PRINCE This is Talking Fear… IMDB description Facing impossible odds, Luciana and the group work together to tackle an impossible task while Morgan helps prevent disaster. Elsewhere, an old friend presents Sarah, Charlie, and Strand with a solution. Jeffy Fisher and Jason Buttrill discuss the latest happenings on the show and look to the future. Hmmm… Has this show Jumped The Shark already…   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 5, episode 6 of Fear the Walking Dead, titled The Little Prince. That makes this talking fear. I hesitated a little when mentioning this episode because episode 6, this one, according to the IMDB description, facing impossible odds. Luciana and the group worked together to tackle an impossible task while Morgan helps prevent disaster. Elsewhere, an old friend presents Sarah, Charlie, and Strand with a solution. That's the description. My description would be a tad different than that, but I guess they wanted people to watch. Joining myself, Jeff Fisher, is Jason Betrell, and of course Maximus Fisher, who joins us from time to time.

He's too good to be here this week on Talking Fear. But thank you for coming along for the ride. I don't know if we want to just, if we want to just dive in or you just want to go down my notes and maybe we just kind of cover it till the end because this episode was, to say the least, I mean, I'll use the word amazing, but it's not the word I'm really looking for. The final scene made me forget everything that happened. So maybe we should stick to your notes. But there's a, you know, they always say, you know, that famous Happy Days episode when, you know,

the Fong jump the shark. That's the television show, meaning that meaning jumping the shark is meaning that's the end of the show. I mean, that episode was the end of the show. They had nothing else. They knew it. Right. They had exhausted. Any kind of great content that they might have already.

They did it several seasons back. I think this was that moment. Really? They have nothing left. I don't know that it was that bad, but it was pretty close. Oh my gosh, Jeffie. It was pretty close. It was bad.

So, all right, we'll start at the beginning. We'll start at the beginning because if we just start at the badness, we'll never get to any of the goodness. If there was any goodness at all. Because as I go through my notes, again, I didn't look at them until I printed them out again. And I'm remembering now, I don't know that there was a lot of good in this episode. It was such a strange episode. I like the concept. We'll go top to bottom.

Well, we've said that all along about this show, though. Right. Especially this season. The concept is great. But they have not implemented it well. Yeah. And I like the concept I'm meaning is like building an airplane, you know, to go somewhere. Like, I, like, I actually, I don't know, it makes me, like, it reminds me like a Mad Max scenario or what's that movie where they like, they like, they, their airplane gets shot down or crashes in the desert.

Yeah. Oh, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love that movie. But, um, but they have to somehow figure out of way to fix it. That movie starts with the great Johnny Cash song.

Yeah. Exactly. Um, but they, uh, I like, so I like the concept, you know, surviving at any means, you know, any way they can. And even if it means building a freaking airplane. I was like, maybe it's kind of cool. I'll pause for just a second because you pissing me off with the Johnny Cash. Do not be messing with Johnny Cash

on I've been everywhere, man. Shut up. Does you remember that? I've been everywhere, man. Of course. Okay, don't, don't. Don't do it. All right, we're back to fear.

Raise your damn notes. Back to fear. All right, so we started out with them bringing all the stuff from Daniel's warehouse. right off the bat, I'm thinking, why didn't we just bring the people to Daniel's warehouse? Why are we wasting all this time and energy and fuel and equipment on moving things there?

I didn't understand. Oh, because the roads are out. Oh, well, how did they just get all the cars and stuff over there? I don't understand. It was just, I was like, what are we doing? And if I have to, seriously, I think, okay, now we're out. I'm already down the bad road. If I have to hear one other Morgan motivational speech about why.

they're doing it and who they're saving. I'm going to tell Morgan to take his mop handle and go somewhere. Or at least own how ridiculous it is and just like have a theme song for every time he starts into one of his little diatrives. That'd be nice. You know, like, oh, here we go again. Right. Yeah.

Right. It's almost like a song and a musical. You're like, we're already into another freaking song. Come on, man. You just ended one. I did like, I did like Morgan testing his new stick and then, you know, finding the mop handle that he thought would work perfect because you knew it wasn't right. He was out testing the old stick that he had and it just wasn't right.

You know, it didn't have the right way. It didn't feel right. It wasn't the same thing. That was kind of fun. Yeah, I guess. It was kind of fun to watch. And then he found the mop handle. He's like, oh, yeah.

Yeah. This is it. I was screaming at my TV. He's like, dude, they unscrew. You don't have to pull. It literally just turn it and it and it unscrew. No, those good mop handles don't do that, though. They're screwed in like that.

What? What kind of on American art? Have you not used a mop before an actual. an actual industrial mop. You unscrew them. No. No, you do not. Shut up.

No. I will shut up, but I'm just telling you the industrial mops like that do not screw in. They're tightened in and a lot of them have at least one screw that screws those in. So this mop handle stay on. So you unscrew the screw and then it unscrews. Correct. Then it pops out of that.

I don't even know if it screws in. A lot of those industrial mop handles are put in there and then they're, you know, they're like machine squeezed in, you know, so they're so super tight that you can't. It's not a, it takes a while to get them out. So when I say unscrew it, that's still technically correct. It's like to unscrew the screws. So then we went to the planes. Then we went to the planes.

And they're welding and they've got power. You know, come on. Okay. Are we, I mean, we seriously, we've got walkie-talkies. We've got power. We've got welders. We got airplanes. We got gas.

I mean, we're going to fly the plane out of here. Good, because my understanding, planes fly on something called jet fuel. Do we not have it? Where do we have that storage somewhere in the back? If you, there's a good point. If you have all these resources, why do you want to leave? Right. Just build up around where you're at.

You're good. Yeah, you're fine. You're good. In fact, I'll tell you what, let's go over to the nuke plant and try to keep that from melting down. And then we'll have more power. So it wasn't into this episode that I, that they, kind of like hinted that the nuke plant was that big of a deal, right? Right.

Like I thought it was kind of contained. There was no other issues. But now it's imminently going to explode. Yeah. Once your face, the, the nuke girl, whatever her name is. Grace? Yeah, Grace. She's worried about it, you know, melting down.

And we could have, you know, Charit Noble and whatever mountains they're in. And we finally got a good shot of that, too. It showed one of the things exploded. Yeah, yeah. A little plumes or whatever and the other one still going. Before we hadn't even seen that. No, we had not. And I'm kind of over the.

You know, you're going to get sick from the radiation. I mean, I know it's bad. I got it. I really do. I understand that that's another thing to have to worry about. But we've been worried about this zombie apocalypse for quite some time. And radiation is the least of my worries right now. I mean, we're trying to live.

I mean, I understand. I understand how difficult it is and how terrible it is. And it's another thing that we have to worry about. I like it, but I am kind of over it. You know, let's just get out. You know, I don't understand why we're, this, we've got one girl, one lady who was in charge of the new plant that's, you know, now all wound up and trying to save everybody. Just blow it up or do, do whatever you got to do. Bring the people in and let's get it.

Let's get it working. If you know what to do, let's fix it. If we can't fix it, then get out of there. And didn't she concede that it's going to, it's just a temporary bandaid? It's like, it's like this generator, whatever, keep it going for a little bit. longer. Yes. But okay, so I mean, so why, I mean, why wouldn't she just say, okay, guys, let's just get out of here now? We have to. We have to. We have a limited amount of time. Let's go. So instead, they devote half the episode to them taking this stupid generator out,

another Morgan speech, right. You know, all this crap. I mean, just wasting time. The finding of his of his, uh, of his radiated stick all wrapped up on the back of the truck with his longing for his, oh, my, my beautiful stick. Come on. That's goofy, man. That's goofy, man. It would be good if it was like Lucille laying back there. Well, that is Morgan's Lucille, right? I mean, really, that is Morgan's Lucille. That was given to him by the doc. And that's Morgan's Lucille.

That's the right call with that. And one of the worst episodes ever made on the Blockington. I completely disagree. Completely disagree. So then we find we catch the kids talking to someone. We don't know who that is far away over the microphones. Who's letting the kids play with the microphone? Get away from there.

I don't know what that kid is doing back there but get him away from the microphone. Oh yeah, who was he talking to? We don't know. They said, we don't know. They're far away. They're just, they're trying to help or something.

What are you doing? Oh, my God. What are you saying? It's another enemy, of course. Didn't learn their first lesson. Right. Still doing it. And Lucille was like over his shoulder at the time, right?

I mean, not Lucille. Alicia or whatever came in. Luciano, yeah, came walking in. Yeah. What are you talking to? I don't know what he's just somebody far away. It's fine. No.

Come on, man. You don't know that. I did love the fact that I wish it looked like we're going to get our call on Alicia using the propeller as a weapon, though. Yeah. After the propeller flew off. Why is that such a theme this season? I wish she would just use it. Bite the bullet or bite the propeller.

Let's go. Make it your weapon. You've used the one. You dropped it. You went back to your muffler. And now the other one, the other one, the same thing happened. It's a perfect weapon. and she picks it up and then, you know, back to the muffler.

Stop it. It's some weird cosmic thing going on with broken propeller blades and Alicia. Right, leather that bad boy up. That's your new weapon. I want to see that. Literally wherever she goes. Oh, look, another propeller. Right.

It's like all the time. Get the hint. It almost makes you think that they're setting something up for the finale. Like, I don't know. Okay. Whatever. Just get the hint. And then John and Dwight are out, you know, making friends and looking for, like,

and trying to find love. I kind of liked it. You know, I liked that John and Dwight getting to know each other a little bit. I don't know if I went a little bit far with the, oh, look, what I found on the order up sign at the restaurant. Yeah, yeah.

Mr. Sherlock Holmes. This is what I learned back in detective school. Give me a pencil. And then you're like, I was we going to figure out what she said. Perfect. Okay. All right.

And then we find the letter of the secret glove. box that everybody forgets about, which they do actually. I mean, that's actually true. You do forget that a lot of those cars have that extra top glove box, but it's the letter of, you know, leave me alone and I don't want you to find me anymore. I actually felt bad for Dwight there. I did too. I was like, damn.

I did too. So did John, right? Yeah. He was bummed for it. So his thing is, so he's just going to, so they're going to keep on looking for her, I guess? I mean, they have to, right? John won't let him. stop. I mean, what the letter says, but John, you know, he found, he found June. They're all in love.

So you've got to find. What is Sherry's, the whole point of this entire thing? I don't. I don't know. To lead him on this wild goose chase and at the very end say, never mind, turn back. Right. What? Then why, why have you been doing this this whole time? I don't understand. I didn't understand it either. Man, screw that girl. That's dumb. Right. And I mean, when's the last time we saw her, really? I guess that I guess in Negan world, right? Oh, it was like right before Darry. It was when Darrell was in captivity. Yeah, that's the last time we saw her, right?

Because before that, it was Dwight and her that captured Darrell. Yeah. You know, had Darrell took his motorcycle and stuff, right? And then they hint that she's the one that let Darrell out and she left at the same time because she didn't want to get in trouble or caught for it? Yeah, I believe she did. I think that was what happened. That was the last time we saw her, that season at least.

So, you know, bye. Dwight move on, bro. Yeah, that's just, I mean, it kind of makes it, even if they're setting up eventually finding her, because they have to at this point, right? Yeah. Devoting so much a plot to this. They either have to find her or she's got to come out of a building as a walker

and let Dwight have to kill her something. Some kind of finality to that. But as an audience, when they do find her, I like don't care because I'm like, she's a punk. No, I wanted to come out as a walker with a letter in her pocket that says, I still love you. I hope you find me and she's already dead.

And then we had Strand and telling everybody to keep their spirits up when he didn't really mean it. I kind of like that because at the end of the end, he was like, I was just telling him

that to keep their spirits up. I really have no hope. We're all doomed. I kind of like that. That was fun. And then, you know, Al and June with her little, you helped me.

I'll help you. You can tell me. secrets. I really mean that. Did something happen out there? There's something happened out there? Did you, did you fall in love? So they're going to spill that. I think they are. Because she's already, I mean, she's already struggling with it, right? She has to tell someone. Yeah. And so, but when she, because she said I should, if I could have stopped the helicopter, that was what caught her. She said, I should have stopped the helicopter. We'd already been out of here. And is that, is that where they said we were, we had to fly over the mountains or

whatever. Are they said that at one point? And I remember fly over the mountains to get here. I'm still so confused. We've got to be in Tennessee, right? We've got to be on this side of the Smoky Mountains. But they're still, but they still playing like they're in some part of Texas. Right?

I guess. We talked about this too in the past couple episodes. I guess. I mean, I guess it's in a, it's in a mystical land that doesn't exist except that when we get on the other side of the mountains, it's going to be back in the land that does exist.

then that'd be Virginia. And what in the roads, so the big thing now is to like make us believe they need the airplane is all the roads are out. All the roads are out. All the roads are out. Like that's like, so how did Dwight and Morgan get there to begin with? Well,

because the roads weren't out then, dummy. They freaking walked and drove all the way from Virginia. But now they've got it closed shut down because of what? Because of the storm and radiation, right? Gosh, I guess. I guess that's, I guess that's, it's got to be it right and then uh alicia and the little annie girl uh you know i like i kind of liked her story it was a cute little story and you know calling them growlers and went back to get

the parents and the parents it was a sad story but then she gave her the she gave her the said okay i listen to your story and and i understand and here's a key if you still want to leave leave but you should stay and she walks away and then annie leaves and alicia says no i got to go at her. I know. You gave her this. You told her. She wants to leave, leave.

I don't. Why would you give them a vehicle to get the heck out of there if you were like, yeah, yeah, they left. I'm immediately going to go find her right now. Right. Why? Why? You told them here.

If you're going to leave, leave. They obviously don't want to be there anymore. Get out. No problem. Have a nice day. So is the only saving grace I could think of that is they just didn't talk through it enough. But so is maybe Alicia is thinking, okay, this is going to melt down the, the nuclear

reactor and they just don't know that. Okay. So that's why they have to. I guess so maybe. That's the only thing you can think of, but they didn't really talk through it. That would be news that, that would be new news since she told them that they could leave.

Right. That'd be the only way, right? And the kids wouldn't know that yet. And I do like the idea that, uh, uh, when they, when Alicia went to find them, they had a new wall of, of walkers all tied together with guts and everything.

That was a real deal, man. No doubt. That's a real deal. And if you tell me, if AMC does not make a fortune on Halloween from that, you are fools. You're fools because I'm planning on using it. You can just sue me. We really do need to try something like that for Halloween.

That's fantastic. I mean, that's such a, if there aren't yards across America just strung up with Walker guts and Walker's, this is not America anymore. It's not the America I know. And then, of course, you know, since the propeller broke on the plane early in the episode, that's at what broke Strand's hope that made him, you know, put in the hope. hopelessness of the future, they figure out that there's a way for them to get the propeller. There's finally a way of the saving grace of getting the propeller.

And I will say that I honestly thought it was something else other than what it was. I thought it was like a giant propeller from a mixer of the hops or something, you know, from the, from the where he made the beer. You know what I mean? that's the only thing I could think of. I didn't catch the balloon. I thought it was going to be, they actually had Henry Winkler, and he was going to get on some skis, and they were just going to tie the propeller on his back, and he was going to jump over those mountains via the skis. So, of course, the brewery is right around the corner, and all the roads are out, but we got there pretty fast.

And we got there pretty fast. And we brought all the equipment from Daniel's shop into our place, but we couldn't drive the, propellers back from the brewer. We had to fly the balloon, the giant beer bottle balloon. What? Oh my gosh. I mean, that was... I wanted someone to shoot that out of the air so bad.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing. I was like, are we really doing this? I was like, please let this be one of those commercials where you can't... You know how they do them real cleverly now? Yeah, yeah. You think you're still watching? Like, this has got to be like a good beer commercial or something like that. Yes.

Or some beer commercial or something. Right, right, right. You know. But no, there's... They actually think through this for a second. The writer sat down at a table and said, we got this awesome idea. We're going to fly them in on a hot air balloon. And not even a cool-looking hot air balloon.

It's some stupid- The beer is the beer bottle balloon, yeah, from the company. And they're going to fly in on this hot air balloon. That's a cute-looking balloon, now, really. Hopefully we'll see that at, you know, Comic-Con. Cute-looking does not belong in my Walking Dead world, Jeff. I didn't understand what they had the propeller, you know, glued to the side of the cage, the basket of the balloon. Yeah, I'm sure it was glued.

Had died with Walker guts. And they're flying it. And they, I mean, they don't know how to land. It's not going to land. Are you kidding me? Yeah, because, of course, there would have to be something like that at the end. Okay. Didn't have enough fuel.

Okay. Oh, my gosh. That was agonizing a lot. And then they land. Of course, they land in the radiation zone. and Morgan says don't touch the walkers. And of course, the first walker you see has one of the radiation necklaces on from, what's her name, Grace.

So, you know, this is going to prove to be a problem. This is agonizing. I'm sorry. It's like all of the scenes like are set up for this like, remember we talked about manufactured conflict of a couple podcasts back? Yes. Every single one of them, that's how this feels. Yes, it does.

With some stupid gimmick thrown in to try and make you like, I don't know, keep watching. Man, I hate doing podcasts like this because it sounds like we are just hitting this hard with how awful it was. But it comes from love. It really does because of the potential. Potential has been great. We've said it all along. It was so good. And look, we know we get the idea that you wanted to create fear this year to just drive people to the movies.

Right. and drive people to the later versions of the dead. I got it. I got it. We get it that sooner or later, it's all going to end up being one big show, and everybody's going to be together, and you're going to have the one show,

and then the movies, and it'll be a wonderful thing, and everybody will get rich and still be rich, and it's a wonderful thing. I got it. But at some point, the manufacturedness has to stop. Yeah.

Right? It's got to be the writing, and I hate writers. Man, do I hate writers? Shut up. Yeah, you know, it's the stupid is you don't have to do these, like, elaborate plots. Like, the world is cool as is. Right.

So literally just have this group. Use the events that are actually unfolding. I know. You don't have to do other stupid crap. It's so dumb. It's kind of frustrating. On a side note from this episode. And we can look forward to, you know, the next episode.

We'll be here. We'll be here to talk about it next week. But the Walking Dead comics actually ended. Kirkman pulled the plug, episode 193. I read it the day it came out. So did Max. I got the full, I mean, I don't read. But I have readers.

And so he read it. Then I gave it, let him give me the breakdown from it, give me the report of the book report of it. It was a good ending. Yeah. Well, it was. And it needed to end, right? I mean, he could have milked it to maybe, you know, 200, you know, and take. taking it, taking that ride, but he was, he'd had it enough and it was over and it was time to bring it to an end.

It's 193, it's over. We're done. Have a nice day. And if you think that what the Christmas presents are going to be is going to be the all 193 episodes of the Walking Dead comic books in a package deal. Yeah. You're going to get that. Yeah. You're going to get the, you're going to get the Robert Kirkman, Kirkman's version, his own copies sold for millions of,

He hit a gold mine with this series. He sure did. Gosh. He sure did. Good for him. You know, the craziest thing, like, I don't, I'm, I'm hesitant to spoil how it ended because that's kind of a big spoiler. No, that's fine.

If you're into it enough to have read, then, you know, you know the ending. Yeah. Well, anyway. And I'm, if it were up to me, I say, I'll tell them. I don't care. Because I don't, spoilers don't ruin things for me. Yeah. Well, I won't say how it actually ends, unless you guys.

you know, tweet adists or whatever and say, I will. Robert Kirkman dropped over and it's over. But the epilogue I thought was really good. Did you, did Max tell you what he said? I think so, yeah, where they recapped everything and what was happening with everybody. Yeah. And Robert Kirkman was just like, you know, this.

Oh, yeah, he says, yes, yeah. So where he talked about it all. Yes. He was basically like this is the one of the best thing, barrenone that's ever happened to me. Yeah. And, you know, he was talking through it. And he lets loose like something he's never told before. And he said he almost ended it the entire series right.

after they got to Alexandria. That was supposed to be the ending. So he said that right when they got to Alexandria, Rick was supposed to like, I guess the final scene was like him looking up or something like that, you know, or looking out on the horizon. It was supposed to be understood that they were going to try to rebuild society at Alexandria. And then there was like a, there was supposed to be like a page or two this goes by. Then it, after he's looking up, the camera pans out.

And then you see that they're all dead. Alexandria is wiped out and the walkers end up winning. I love it. Oh, I would have been so pissed. I love it. No. Because that's where that's kind of close to, I mean, my original ending of Walking Dead was, you know, kind of like the Wizard of Oz ending where Rick wakes up in the hospital.

Yeah. You know, and sees everybody around him. And then it's like it wasn't real, but then the TV reports are the actual reports of the dead starting up. That was the end. That's kind of what I wanted to do. Annie M. You're here too. Yeah, yeah.

But then the TV, you know, the Wizard of Oz, everybody's happy right the end. but the TV has the news reports of... Weird sightings. Yeah, right. Yeah, so it's actually going to happen. Right, right. It was just all we did was watch what's going to happen. Anyway, thanks for listening to Fear.

We won't beat it up anymore. We'll see you next week. Hopefully we'll, you know, we'll give Fear some happy love next week. Okay, we'll really try really hard not to beat it up as long as they don't fly balloons all over into the new plant. Thanks for listening to Talking Fear. Be sure to subscribe to Chewing the Fat Pod. wherever free podcasts are sold. Have a good week.