Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S5 E9 | Fear The Walking Dead

Episode Date: August 12, 2019

SEASON FIVE EPISODE NINE MID SEASON PREMIERE FEAR THE WALKING DEAD TITLED: Channel 4 This is Talking Fear… With myself Jeff Fisher and Jason Buttrill Maximus Fisher still missing in action EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB The group, traveling in a convoy, doubles-down on their mission to help survivors. In an effort to encourage more survivors to reach out, Al, Luciana, and Charlie document Morgan and the gang on a dangerous mission to help a reclusive survivor. Each week we discuss the events of the latest episode and look ahead to the future... Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 5, episode 9, mid-season premiere, Fear the Walking Dead, titled Channel 4. That makes this talking fear. Welcome to it. Okay, I'm joined by Jason Buttrill, myself Jeff Fisher, Maximus Fisher, still missing in action somewhere. IMDB description for the episode, The Group, traveling in a convoy, doubles down on their mission to help survivors. in an effort to encourage more survivors to reach out. Al, Luciana, and Charlie document Morgan and the gang on a dangerous mission

to help a reclusive survivor. Pretty boring. I have a feeling you were going to, I knew you were going to talk some trash on the style. I tell you what, I actually enjoyed the style until the ending, right? So like my kids nowadays, they listen to, or they watch YouTube,

like vloggers, stuff like that, they're all into it. All the time. There's like that, I got a sense of that and kind of like a, you know, like an early day vice style. You know, the shaky camera, the running out and reporting stuff like that. I actually dug that. Like in the very beginning, I was like, this is kind of cool. Like they've been, when we've been, I think, putting some praise on them for doing things differently or, you know, like in their cinematography, how they like do an action sequence or something.

It's always done well. Yeah. Yeah. The content isn't always well. Isn't always good. Right. But they, but they,

they're definitely showing a willingness to do things differently or to like up their production scale. And I thought this was really cool. I, I, I, I, I,

I, I, from, from the opening, you know, five minutes, I was like, this is going to be kind of a cool episode. Okay.

So, I'll give you a little bit of, it's okay. You know, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, this is, uh, you know, this is us.

We have everybody. We're showing everybody. We've got, we've got, Morgan on his pretty road. It's gorgeous. It's just sitting there. We don't know where it is.

It's somewhere in the world. We found out about the gas and their travels and how they're trying to help people. And we got little, we met, you know, everybody gave us their little recap and it was all edited nicely. We found out that guy was not being legit, which we were pretty much all expected. Right. He was trying to set him up again. Yes. We did get confirmation on that, which is, I'm glad to.

I was going to be pissed if they invited that guy into the group and like helped him, you know, helped him do something. Logan, yeah, the, the, the power plant guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy that showed up at the end again. So we didn't actually kill him. Right. Okay.

Okay. But it was, I know, I know, right? Like, Rick and the gang would have just taken him out. It's time for him to be done. Why are we even concerning ourselves with this human being still? And he's going to, as we saw, he's going to come back. Absolutely. You didn't deal with the situation, didn't deal with the problem.

It's going to come back and bite you. Thank you. And he shows up at the end with his band of merry baddoers. Yeah. As they take on motorcycle boy at the end. And they showed the, you know, it was the motorcycle guy that was watching the videotape of everyone. Okay. So that is where my love for the style completely fell off.

Because it went from documentary style, documenting it, all that stuff, to freak. infomercial. Yeah. It was an infomercial. Remember like a rapid fire at the end? Like each of them would say like three words and three words and three words. I was like, oh my gosh. Literally I wanted to go out and buy some Tupperware.

I didn't know what if I was watching a movie or a Tupperware commercial. At the end, I personally, and it's funny that you thought that because I thought that we were watching the like the PSA for polar bears. I mean, it was just like, I want. Right. Come on. I don't know. Is this another Travago commercial or something like that?

We're out here. We're out here. Okay. You can make a difference. You can make a difference. Side note of the... Shut up. Side note of the Trivago commercials, too.

I'm surprised they still have that guy doing him. He got busted for DUI not long ago. Which one? In Houston. The Chavago guy. This has nothing to do with fear whatsoever, but the Chavago guy. In the commercial? Yeah.

The guy that does the Chavago commercial. There's like 40 guys in that. No. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, the main guy. No, no, no, the main guy is the main Travago guy. Because there's several women in my life that enjoy him. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He got busted in Houston not long ago.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm surprised he's still doing. And now I know you're talking. And he's still doing him. So tough. It doesn't matter. Chavago's standing tough. We're good.

We like him. Anyway, so we go back to fear. I'm sorry, a little diversion there for the Chavago guy. I found it fascinating that we, okay, I give you all the clips. We enjoyed, we had all the clips and everything. We knew the tense moment when they were at the house of Tess and the landmines. Yeah. And, you know, we're all going to run through the landmine field, and of course, Morgan steps on one.

Now, you knew he didn't die because we were watching the videotape, right? I mean, the videotape was the recap of what they, of everything that they've done, and they're telling that story. So you knew he didn't die. Am I the only one that hoped maybe? I don't know. He lost a limb or a leg or something, just an explosion. Something. Just something.

Just something. Because the characters, these kind of, they kind of seem immortal for some reason right now. Granted, we've lost a lot from the original fear to dying. But for some reason, I think that this group is immortal. I'm getting that feeling. It feels that way. Nothing can happen. And it also.

You know, we don't have any concerns about. I guess we've found warehouses that house all our batteries and all our tapes and all our recordings. And we can make videotape production and we can leave them all over the world so that people see our polar bear PSAs. Yeah. And let us know we're out there. With enough gasoline to have random generators and random gas stations just stay on all the time. Right. So they can play these stupid freaking movies.

Right. What? Is that that thing wasteful? No. What? I just don't. No. And we're supposed to, we're supposed to believe, I guess that there, we have, we keep

adding people to our group. So, you know, she, what's her face? Newk lady talked about making her special dinner with packets of ketchup and stuff. But there was still enough to feed all those people. Yeah. It wasn't like, you're only getting half a bowl tonight, kid, right? You're doing nothing for the group except be a little kid. So this is all you get.

Over there. Were you, were you disappointed in, when we saw the, the trailer for this season premiere, it looked really pretty dope, actually. Yeah, I did. It showed like the landmines going on. I remember, I was like, oh, whoa, what is that? Right. But in this context, I was so underwhelmed.

Yeah. It was still a good idea. But, like, you notice it, it's, they're not advancing the story ever, hardly. It just doesn't seem like. Like, this was, I didn't hate this episode until the very end. But then at the end of it, I was like, well, we didn't really get anywhere. We didn't get anywhere. We're not advancing.

I mean, we're not advancing anything, right? I mean, we're staying in a, I don't know, I guess we're supposed to be moving toward to they find someplace. Hoking up with Rick or, I mean, what Morgan thinks is hooking up with Rick. Are they still doing that? I guess. See, I, but it doesn't seem that way. Because they said June said that they were going to find a place, a forever place to stay.

Right. Right. But I thought that was what. Morgan had talked them into finding the utopia of his older place. I don't know, man. It almost sounds like they've abandoned that. And now they're just going to make a separate community. I don't know.

They abandoned that plot line of going and linking up with Rick. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. But it was like this was one of my big issues with the first half of the season is that they had this scenario. All this stuff going on, you never felt like after you ended the episode that you got any further along in the storyline. Right.

I was like, hopefully they're not going to do that the second half, but they did it, but the first one again. Yeah. So next, I guarantee you next week's episode, they'll be put in some other conflict situation and nothing will happen. Yeah. I mean, that was the, that was the promo of it too, right? I mean, they were all in some sort of conflict situation.

Yeah. And we know that, we know that Logan is out there looking for him. We know that maybe the, the one guy at the gas station, with the motorcycle guy, the black guy at the gas station with the motorcycle, maybe he stays alive. Maybe he's just a character that showed up and now he's gone. I don't know. Which again would not surprise me.

Right. He just showed up. He watched the videotape so that we had an opportunity to see the videotape. And now he's just gone. Yeah. Just disappeared. Yeah. I know they tried to make a big deal about they were trying to say that when,

remember when he was standing there with Logan and his merry band of bad doers, Which don't look at all intimidating. Not at all. I'm like, what? Because that was his, that was the people that were searching the, the power plant or whatever before, right?

It was, what are you talking about? They don't look scary at all. They look like a, you know, a small group at a church that was like, hey, you know, let's read the Bible some and on our off time,

go shooting. That's what they look like. They don't look scary at all. But off to the side was a, Winnebago. So people were trying to say that that was the, you know, the old Winnebago and they're trying to say that, you know, it's a possible, you know,

possible little, oh, that's a tie-in to the, to the Walking Dead. When they show that, I never saw. Yeah, off to the side of that gas station when they were shooting up the motorcycle was the, was the Winnebago. Huh. And, but, you know, that Winnebago was, I thought, destroyed. I don't remember. The original one, right?

I think that was destroyed. So anyway, you know, we got one little, you know, Easter egg that, people, you know, people are trying to tie in. That was about it. And then, I don't know, we saved. It seemed like, see, this is where I'm at. Why are we wasting all of our time, energy, ammunition, livelihood to save a lady that's surrounded by landmines? When we'll try to get you out.

No, I don't want to. Talk to you later. Okay. All right then. You take care. Stay off of channel four. All right about that, because that's our channel. I know you're looking for a hubby around here somewhere, but good luck.

God bless. Yeah, not only that, but she basically told him to leave. Morgan's like, no, we're going to stay. We're going to protect you. We're going to wait for your husband to show up. And actually one more, we're going to send people out to go look for your husband. Why? What?

Why? And we're going to make last. And shoot up the walkers on top of the landmines so that it creates more noise that will bring on more walkers. Yeah. Okay. I'm glad you said that because I was thinking the same thing. I was like, yeah, granted, it's loud when the mines blow up. But so are you shooting your six years.

Like you're not stopping. Like they're not differentiating between loud noises here. No. They're like, oh, is that landmine, a zombie friend? Was there a moat that they couldn't get over? It was a fence. They walk over the other side of the fence and kill some walkers. I don't understand why we had to have, you know, we had to have the six shooter across the yard.

Right. Pull over there and stab him in the head. Right. What are you talking about? Oh, man. The holes in this show. But if they didn't have them, we wouldn't have as much to talk about because the content does not fill the time, for sure. Well, no question.

And, you know, I guess we've got some, you know, when they have their little camp and they've circled the wagons. And they had, you know, we had a couple of walkers break through their little fence. Yeah. So let me stop complaining for a little bit and say I did actually like that. Okay. So you know like the day to day survival stuff? Kind of reminded me. Remember in the original show in the first season when they were at that like big like was it a rock quarry or whatever and they were all like kind of camped out

there in a big circle? Yes. And you could just feel the tension because you remember there was several scenes. You didn't know what was going to happen. And they had no fence. So every once in a while you remember in that in those shows they would just come up. They would just come up. Yeah. And they didn't know how to deal with it. Yeah. I kind of got those. like vibes. And I was like, that's cool. Like actually, if you turn this show into like they're caravanning to get to whatever place, as long as, that might actually be a little better. It would be better, I think. And you wouldn't have to like do these fake manufactured, you know,

crisis points where they have to go save someone that's surrounded by landmines. In theory, it sounds cool. But it doesn't do anything for the story. Right. But I would much rather to see day-to-day survival. Because that's, that was the original, that was first season, Walking Dead. Yeah.

Yeah. And I mean, this could have been Fear of the Walking Dead, you know, K-O-A camp style. Yeah. Yeah. We're just crossing the mountains.

We just want to camp. We don't want to, we don't want to stay here. We don't want to take your things. We just need some ketchup packets and we'll be gone. We're on our way. And peanuts. Yeah,

and peanuts. That's part of it. It'll be on our way. That's all. And then, what the hell were they making? Raman noodles. ketchup packets and crushed up peanuts.

Yeah, she was making her, a new lady was making her special, some kind of, some kind of dish. I forget what it was called. I read it. Something awful. Are you, I'm not eating crushed up peanuts,

ketchup and ramen noodle? And I love me some ramen. Let me tell you something, my friend. When you're out there in the world, fighting walkers and you come home and some lady says, hey, I've got ramen noodles and some peanuts for you to eat, you're going to eat it and like it. Oh, yeah.

In that situation, I'm eating it and liking it. But she had to apparently had this recipe on her refrigerator. Yeah, her special, yes. What else did you have on there that was what? This is one of your like prized recipes? It's like, what? Grilled grasshopper or something like that?

She worked for the UN. That's true. It's true. So she's all four bugs. Nothing good ever comes out of the UN, especially their ramen dishes. Every few months, every few months, just keep this in the back of your mind. About every five months, the UN comes out with the new way that we really should eat bugs. And they are pushing for the world to eat more bugs, man.

Every five months or so, if they pick up the pace. And that's where she's at on fear, eat bugs. No, it was some special family dish. I can't remember the name of gosh darn it. I should have wrote it down what the dish was. I think we're better off not knowing. Well, it was a little off because she had to use ketchup packets. It wasn't quite the

recipe. So, and then we look ahead to, I mean, really, I think I like your idea of the caravan. It actually works. I like that better than putting videotapes all over the damn cut. And plus, if they're putting videotapes all over, then they're not going anywhere. Right?

They're traveling back and around to let people know that they're out there to help them, but they're not going anywhere. And setting up a little, I guess, portable generators so that you can provide electricity to all these places where you can play on the TV on the TV and BCR or whatever. Shut up.

I just, they're like the gas is going bad. It's very limited supply. Okay, let's stash them all out and those random generators all over the place so they can watch this stupid home movie or infomercial or whatever. We're carrying a, we're traveling with a tanker guarded by an armed vehicle, but we're going to leave, we're going to leave gas out there for these generations. narrators, no thank you.

So that is what that other dude is after? That's what that was his big prize, the tanker. Well, I don't think, I think there was, uh, his big prize was the oil field. Yeah, him and his buddy had, uh, a way or places where they had stashed or knew where to get gas. So I, I think. So it was a map, like a treasure map to an oil field? Yes. And that's what they were digging up.

I think so. That someone made a treasure map to an oil field. He and his buddy made the treasure map. And buried it. And he couldn't remember all the treasure, you know, all of it. You're in Texas. Just walk 20 miles one direction. You'll walk through about 14,000 oil fields.

Logan could not remember the map. So it's stupid. That's like it's stand by me when the little fat kid forgot the map to his pennies. I love that movie. Don't be mad mouth and stand by me. No, that's a great movie. But that's what that reminded me of. It was like the little fat kid down there,

it's searching for his pennies. Well, you're looking at me when you say that. Anyway, so, yeah, that's right. I think it was, I think it was some kind of treasure map, yeah. I guess, I mean, it's the best I can get from it. It's the best I can get from it. I caught him stealing a plot from another movie. I caught him stealing a plot from a,

I can't remember what the other one was. I've said this a couple of times. But yeah, they just stole stand by me. Anyway, go ahead. No, no, I just, I just, you know, we look forward to maybe, you know, where they're going in the future. I hope, I hope it gets better. It feels, I just kind of, I had, I had one person send me a message on Facebook that talked about how, what it felt like, that they were trying to, trying, they didn't, they were, they were behind so they had to put an episode together and this is what they came up with.

And so, you know, that's where they were at. It was just, I kind of felt like that. And I also saw on Twitter, and I know it's Twitter. I understand, I understand the differences between, you know, between Twitter. But last night, the Walking Dead Twitter account at the Walking Dead, a verified account, asked, how are you guys liking the found footage aspect of tonight? hashtag fear twadd I should not have asked that question

I should not have asked that question not good response most of the 100 most of the likes and responses were not helpful really we're not helpful yeah boring I get the feeling something bad is about to happen the worst it sucks

well sorry this is not why I watch this show I like hearing what's going on in their heads, which is something we talked about. Hate it, and I hate that Al wanted to videotape a woman who was fearful to leave her home. No, it's important. This is not.

Storytelling gimmick isn't working. I'll just stop there, all right? So most of it down the trend. And again, I say, I know this is Twitter. Yeah. So you're not going to, Twitter isn't a place to go for love. I mean, you can get love on Twitter, but for the most part,

when you ask a question of, hey, do you like this? You're going to get troll. Yeah. Overall, no. Not only that, and you're going to get trolled hard. I think that's a little unfair. Like I said, I like the found footage.

I love found footage, like horror movies, like Blair Witch and stuff like that. I love news reporting, like, not content-wise, but like in the style of the old style vice. Like, I love that crap. It helps, it helps. It's, the whole,

point of it is for immersion. So you get immersed into it, almost like you're the one with the camera or something. And, and at times you did feel that way. Kind of, but they just didn't do it all that well, obviously. But the problem I don't think wasn't the style. If they would have done this style in The Walking Dead during the, during the height of it, I bet you people would have been praising it because the content was so good. If the content sucks, you can't, I mean, if it's still a pig, if you put perfume on it or not. You know what I mean? And that's what it is. And that's what is. It's like they're trying to put perfume on this because anything they can to mask the fact that their content sucks, basically. Back up to you, Aldi. All right, this is Talking Fear. We will be back next week for another exciting episode of Talking Fear because I looked for what the title is for next week's episode. And it has not been listed yet that I could find. So maybe the guy who said, maybe, no, I don't believe it's canceled.

No, they've got to catch out. They're letting it go at least until Walking Dead because something's got to go there. And I saw that the show talking, the other talking show on the network was there was an episode before Fear. And then there was going to be an episode after the show that airs after Fear, which is just dumb AMC. I don't understand it. Was there any marketing to say I completely missed the Walking Dead preview? I saw that. Well, the preview was about Walking Dead, I think, right?

Coming up. Yeah. I did see a, this is their marketing, a tweet from that show like last week talking about it. I forgot all about it. But it wasn't on the cable box. The cable box still just said it was going to be a repeat of fear like they normally do. So it wasn't enough to promote for the cable companies to change their info. They've clearly cut on their promotion and advertising, clearly.

For fear, they didn't even promote the midseason finale. And now for no one to even know they're going to do a major preview of, the Walking Dead season coming up in just a couple months? I know. I know. That's kind of scary. It is a little scary. So be sure to subscribe to Chewing the Fat with myself, Jeff Fisher. And that way you'll be alerted when this show, Talking Fear, gets uploaded each Monday. And you can enjoy it.

And then you'll also know when chewing the fat gets uploaded. Duh. And you want that to happen. Don't you? Yeah, you do. Thanks for listening. See you next week.