Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S6 E7 - Talking Walking Dead: Talking Fear to be Exact

Episode Date: November 23, 2020

TALKING WALKING DEAD: Talking Fear to be exact… FEAR THE WALKING DEAD SEASON SIX EPISODE SEVEN TITLED: Damage from the Inside THIS IS TALKING WALKING DEAD / TALKING FEAR and a little World… With m...yself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill & Maximus Fisher EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB FEAR: When Dakota goes missing, Strand sends Alicia and Charlie on a search and rescue mission to find her; an unlikely ally provides a new possibility of escape from Virginia. Join us as we discuss the latest happenings and what the future may hold in the aftermath of the Coronavirus pause for AMC and The Walking Dead Universe… Talking Walking Dead / Fear and World Beyond as needed inside the Universe S1Ep8 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Season 6, episode 7, mid-season finale of Fear the Walking Dead. And that makes this Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it. Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill, and Maximus Fisher on Talking Walking Dead Fear. Episode description from MDB, when Dakota goes missing strands sends Alicia and Charlie on a search and rescue mission to find her. An unlikely ally provides a new possibility of a... escape from Virginia. Okay.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Jason? Yeah. Yeah. I was very afeard. The entire... Were you? I was so afeard. I didn't really know what to do.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Maybe I was so afeard because everyone seems so stupid in this episode. I don't even wrong. I liked it. But everyone was just dumb. I know. Right? Come on. Go ahead, Max.
Starting point is 00:01:14 Go ahead. Yeah, this episode wasn't the best, but I did really like it, but I do agree some actions were a bit peculiar, to say the least. You know what? That's a good word, peculiar. Because by the end, I just wanted Morgan to put his spear through Alicia's head and be done with it. Be done with it. Have a nice day. You know what?
Starting point is 00:01:37 You're the final person from the original show. I know Strand is close, but he wasn't there on the first. first show and just end it, be done with it. Because she is agonizing, or she was last night anyway. But I digress. Yeah. You know, in this era of women empowerment and, you know, feminism from Hollywood, you'd think that they'd have them stop acting so stupid and annoying in shows.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I mean, you would think that, wouldn't you? Why are you writing them that way? That's not how they are. Almost, you'd almost think that is how they are, though, in real life, wouldn't you? have Carol. She's still an awesome character. Yeah, don't stick up for any of the women right now. Let it go. So it was interesting in the beginning as Dakota is trying to kind of feel out Strand a little bit and see where he's at in the Virginia chain of command world.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And, you know, that was kind of, that was a good little chat because I'm still torn between Strand, right? is still up for himself always. It's just the deal. Yeah. He's, so I do believe that he is against Virginia and he's plotting in his own way. He's just doing it in a way where he comes. You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. There's another plan going on that is better. But Strand's not going along with that. He's going with his plan because he thinks that, you know, hey, you know, this is a community and this, I'm just assuming here. and I can come out of this with a whole lot. I can come out the leader.
Starting point is 00:03:16 I can still, you know, get our people back. So I think he's good at heart. He's just selfishly good at heart. Yeah, that's kind of the character of Strand where he just, he hasn't changed. It's him first, his group second, and then everybody else. For sure. For sure. Yeah, but, and she was right, Dakota was right.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Like, when she said, you know, if we just left all these Rangers, we'd already be there by now. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah. Duh. What are you doing? The slow move with the horses and the car? What are you talking about? Why even be in the car?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Right. You can go to go that slow. It doesn't make it didn't make any sense. That's stupid. You're right. In fact, tonight's episode, stupid. And then, so then she gets, you know, she gets, you know, missing in action.
Starting point is 00:04:11 And Strand should have been a little bit smarter at the ambush. Again, stupid. I thought he had a little bit of smarts because I'm thinking, no, dude, just wait a second. Think this through a little bit. So he's like, Strad's all quick. Like the situations change. Let's all split up and go into different directions.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Let me take the person that's missing horse and we'll go. I'm going to do the same thing he did when he disappeared. You stay in the car. Watch her. And then he shows back up. The car's missing. Dakota's missing and everybody else is dead. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Who is thunk. I know. What a plot twist. Well, I'll have to get someone with some saws for this tree. Let's go back. Okay. Okay. Quick.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Get the sauce. I love how he said it so authoritatively, though. He's riding up, you know. Hey. Quick, you go get the saws. I'll go take care of... Oh, crap. All the horses are coming.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Whoa, I never saw this coming. I hope the electric chainsaws are charged. Let's go. Okay. But, okay, so, you know, granted, we have, you know, we have things like that with every episode, right? I mean, we question why. Yeah. Well, you know, I'm giving it up for the greater good of the episode.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Okay. All right. Five. We'll give it up for the greater good. And then, you know, Strand has got his little helpful Ranger lady that looks eerily like Virginia, so you think that it's kind of Virginia at the beginning. I thought it was a flashback.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I know. I know. I was like, whoa, she got her hand back, so we went back in time. I know. I thought, did you just shoot that with her right hand? I thought she lost it. Same. About the same. But it's not her. But it's not her. Right. So we were fooled, duped again. And so, you know, then, of course, you know, Dakota goes missing and, you know, we're out looking for her.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And we have him out looking for, what's your face? And what's her face? You know, the two chicks. Oh, Alicia. Yeah, Alicia and Charlie. Because Strand sent them off to that one outpost for like six weeks. Right. So they're just hanging out in an outpost.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Pinging walkers in a field once in a while, practicing how. to kill. That's why you've been teaching me how to kill walkers. Yeah. No, I've been teaching you how to do that to stay alive. What, what are you kidding me? What do you do is you put the knife in their skull. Think you can get it? It's not like a secret dojo where they learn the secret arts of ninjit-su zombie killing. Well, it is with Morgan, man. Don't be messing with my man in a secret dojo. The Morgan Dojo, don't do it. No, no, no. Where's our boasts?
Starting point is 00:07:13 That's what we need in this old office. Strand did say when he sent them away, I'm sending you someplace where pretty much you won't be bothered. It's just, I need to do my thing. Go away. That's true. That's true. So he kind of, you know, he had them someplace safe, right?
Starting point is 00:07:27 So they're gone, but not forgotten, but they're okay. So that is kind of true. So then we, you know, Alicia finally, you know, caves in and says she'll go look for Dakota and we end up at the we end up at the bucks landing. Yeah, interesting how that happened. You know, like, you know, Strand
Starting point is 00:07:50 couldn't track them down at all. Elisha and Charlie are like, this is me looking my finger. Let's see which way the wind blows. Yeah, let's just go in that direction. Oh my God, a hunting lodge. That's where I would go. Well, that was after the crash.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Right? So the great tracker Alicia you know track the footsteps from the car what I don't know then we had that kindest then we had that kind of skinned walker walk up yeah we did
Starting point is 00:08:21 have some cool some cool walkers this entire episode right we did have I like the whole idea of this actually I did too I really did too and the guy and I can't remember his name now for the life of me that played the tax you know Ed I know but the real life actor
Starting point is 00:08:36 is, you know, he's been in a whole ton of shows. And he plays that part really good. And I was actually, well, spoiler, sad to see him go. I thought that would have been, he would have been a good addition to the group. Right? Because, yeah, I mean, I mean, Morgan could have used him. I mean, he's the guy. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I'm calling him Ed Frankenstein. Yeah. You know, so he's got, you know, he's there for everyone's. safety, the taxi dermis. And it was, you know, we were, you know, locked in the house. It was just... What did you call it, the taxi dermist? He's a taxi dermist? Does he have a side gig as an Uber driver as well or something like that?
Starting point is 00:09:19 He's a taxi dermis. That's what he does. That's what he does. And then, you know, I'm guessing here at the end of the world, the taxi dermy business is a little slow. Not a lot of people coming to the door with their animals to get stuffed. I believe it's a taxidermist. It's a taxi dermist because a taxi e-dermist. That's a little funny with the Uber.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Yeah. Ha-ha-ha. That sounds like a mobile skin doctor. That's what he was. That's what he was. You're telling me it's not a taxi-dermy as well. Oh, my gosh. People from Florida.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Okay, Websters. Okay, fine. But it was a joy. I loved his house. And I loved his, I loved the whole idea of his creations. the walkers, the horns, and the unicorn walkers, and the skins. That was actually really cool. His creations.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I love that. Yeah, that was super cool. The whole, like, but again, the stupid stuff, you know, Alicia sneaking in and just being so stupid about it. You know what I mean? Like, I'm like, we know she's smarter than that. We, like, or she's supposed to be. I mean, this was just a recreation of her. Remember when she snuck into the house looking for Charlie?
Starting point is 00:10:34 The one house in whatever season or episode that God-Aful show was. Yeah, when she was hunting her down for killing Mick. Yeah. And she's going through the house and they end up in the flooded basement. But anyway. At this point, she should be, you know, for following her progression and how experience they are. She'd be like combat rolling around, you know, disappearing into the shadows, popping out through the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:11:01 Who knows? You know, stuff like that. Not like, oh, hey, look at that. That's a bobcat. Oh, look at that. Stuff that was pretty good. Turn around. Hey, look at that.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Oh, crap. What's that stuff getting injected into my freaking neck? I'm up top here upstairs and the walker's going crazy. He won't notice. I kind of liked that how the way the guy noticed something was up was when the walker started acting up on the bed. Well, yeah. I mean, that's his alarm, right? I mean, she is supposed to be smarter than that.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. Supposed to be. I know. And I did, right from the very beginning, though, I knew that the horn chairs would play a part because you don't see those every day. Those were cool. And I thought those were really cool. And I love that we were able to, you know, have electricity. Turntable worked fine.
Starting point is 00:11:50 I am radio worked fine. Just powered up. Just push the button. Boom. On it goes. Oh. No generator anywhere. You didn't hear a generator.
Starting point is 00:11:57 In the middle of Texas, we guess, somewhere just around the corner. at Bucks Landing. And there's plenty of power. Plenty of power being generated. No problem. But the horned chairs were cool. A lot of those old hunting lodges do have backup generators, so I'm just saying it's the truth. Thank you, Fear Writer.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And my tour of old hunting lodges in West Texas, they all have at least four or five generators. I've been to one, so. What they do is they bury them underground so you don't hear them. It would scare the animals away. Have you ever been to a hunting lodge? I said, whatever told them. I did the tour of the ones in Arkansas. Not West Texas.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Not West Texas. So anyway, and so then, you know, of course then, you know, Charlie sneaks in and she's hanging out in the house. We've got a house full of people. nobody knows anybody where anybody is. Fascinating. And so that was interesting to have his character in there. And of course, he summoned his creations to lock them in the house.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Then amazingly, after the creations show up, and Morgan goes through a few of them, just shows up to save them and rescue them. I love you. You talked about there's no way Strand could have tracked them. who shows up Strand. Yeah. Why do you even need a leash?
Starting point is 00:13:35 I know, yeah. Well, remember, Texas is a very small place. So literally all you have to do is run in circles and you'll bump into it eventually. You're right there. And Morgan, of course, has the dog, which we didn't see last night, but the dog
Starting point is 00:13:50 can sniff out anything in the great state. Yeah, yeah. Southwest. Super dog. Yeah. And of course, he invited them to come to his place at the dam. and he originally wanted to use Dakota's leverage.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Yeah, we're leaving out. Alicia was the first one to do that on the radio. And it's like, this poor chick, like everyone wants to sell her. Like, what's going on? Right. I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:21 we can, it's Dakota barter system, man. Instead of fighting, instead of fighting the battle, we've just got her. You're right. I mean, they just want to get rid of her. Have a nice day.
Starting point is 00:14:32 We don't need her. How about the whole everybody joins in and we're all big one happy family to save the world? Well, it's not her. Oh, okay. Everyone is like willing to do this to, you know, because they're scared of Virginia. And I'm still having a hard time with it. I just don't buy it. I'm like, why are you so scared of Virginia?
Starting point is 00:14:55 She is the least scary villain in the entire Walking Dead universe. I disagree. Especially now. Who will be least, less? The weird lady from a couple seasons ago of fear where she would, she would put like the, like the, like the poison in the water. Poison in the water bottles and. Well, okay, well, at least she was cray cray, gray. But, okay, so I will agree with you on one thing that the, the, what's his name, the Metro Negan?
Starting point is 00:15:22 He was less. Oh, him. Yeah, he was less scary. But his people, I mean, he had people around him and they, they were, you know, the trash. You know, the traveling carnies. Yeah. So that was kind of fun. That was kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And you knew that he was, and he was crazy too. Well, I guess everyone that is a, you know, world leader in the dead universe is crazy. But she doesn't seem crazy enough. Yeah. Especially now as Captain Hook. Whatever. Get away from me. Take your little leather strap.
Starting point is 00:15:55 You've got your arm plugged in and get away from me. Yeah, come on, man. You know, I was, something was did interesting, she brought Alicia during that all this, you know, back and forth trying to figure what she was going to do, she mentioned the stadium again. And I'm like, yep, it didn't work out before
Starting point is 00:16:10 and it's going to work out again? Like, didn't they have to leave because crops wouldn't grow there? Yeah, well, it was, they got poison stuff, right? Well, the reason crops didn't grow there is because Charlie originally sabotaged it, remember? Yeah. Is that what it was? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Okay, so I guess, yeah, so it would work then. afterwards. And doesn't this mode to maybe we mentioned the stadium, which then gets us back to the possibility of watcher face coming back? Madison Clark returning. Totally tracking. Yep. Totally.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I mean, that's so something they would do. Yes. So something they would. However, though, I do have a theory, though. Yeah, Max says she's not coming back. For one reason. So during the Glenn dumpster situation, if anybody remembers that, on the show that comes on at Walking Dead,
Starting point is 00:17:03 when they do the in-memorium sequence, Glenn didn't show up. His name wasn't there. Glenn showed up. At the dumpster, after the dumpster episode. Yeah. Of course, Glenn's name showed up after the Negan episode. Right. The stadium scene in fear, when you see Madison with the torch walk into the herd,
Starting point is 00:17:23 and then it just zooms out and you just see the place light up, it showed her name in the in-memorium sequence. So she's canonically dead. At least she was supposed to be. So according to Hardwick, she's dead. I hope so. It's got to be. Me too.
Starting point is 00:17:38 I don't want her back. I want to least she's gone too now. I like the actress that played, what's her name, or Madison, but how her character as written was god-awful. It was terrible. And so was her son, Nick, was god-offal.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I think they did good by like, you know, the fat and filling it with more interesting characters. So, agree. And they also, the only character that started to come around, actually from the original group, was the dad who they killed first. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I mean, he was just... That's what I mean. He was just starting to come around. Yeah. You know, because they were both California teachers. Oh, God. And so you got that outlook from them at the very beginning of fear, but that takes us way back to the beginning.
Starting point is 00:18:28 We already know that they didn't do that right. Yeah, because the characters we have left from the beginning is Luciana, Strand, Daniel, and Alicia. Although, they keep on teasing this who was the person that helped Morgan. I know.
Starting point is 00:18:44 We've done it in the last one of three episodes. So this person's got to be significant in some way. Yeah. I don't know. Another little carrot there, Dangle. I know. I know. So is it, you know, is it Burned Scarface Madison that doesn't want to show her face?
Starting point is 00:19:04 She pops up doing like ninja backflips and comes in and saves the day. Right. She's got her red cross bag with her. She's busy sewing up wounded people across Texas. That's awesome. Oh, gosh. Please no. I've been watching, Alicia.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I wanted to come and let you know I was alive this whole time. but I just couldn't. No, do not. Oh, I don't know. I don't want that to happen at all. No, no, I'd rather scorch earth with all of them. Let's start again. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So then, you know, at the end, we're all going to, you know, head off to, I love how Morgan doesn't tell anybody where he's taken him. I found a place. You're not going to know where it is until I get you there. Right. I love that. I do. Like, he's the only one acting smart. Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:55 He doesn't want them getting caught. He doesn't know if he can trust them all yet. Yes. Whoever, whoever, I trust you enough to bring you with me. But until we get there, uh, ain't nothing going to be said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I like that a lot. Yep. That's good. That's a good move on his part. So then we have, uh, and that was the midseason finale. So we have another 18, 24 months before we get to the, my guess and before we end off with fear then we had uh strand tell virginia and then we saw grace again we finally saw grace oh yeah yeah morgan's girl grace uh that's virginia's got her in her back pocket for
Starting point is 00:20:40 morgan right because she knows that morgan is alive and strand you know strand said he was with virginia right eye to eye which he's not toe to toe there was no hesitation Yeah, but he's not. There's no way. He's not. And what they're setting up is, you know, they still have a, she's going to use that all of the people that are left from the original group as leverage. And it's going to be whatever many people they've mustered over in Morgan's new area, you know, to assist with the inside coup that Strand is going to hopefully lead. Right, because we have, we have a John that's missing now.
Starting point is 00:21:24 He's gone. He just disappeared. He'll link up with what he's got. He has to. Yeah. His text is so small. He's just going to end up bumping. He's right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:33 He's right there. Then, of course, you had June and the rest of them trying to start up that hospital. Which we didn't get any of. So we'll get the end of that as, you know, in the last half of this season. And we'll see some of the highlights showed Daniel down, Daniel getting a gun to his head, right? That's going to be a turning point. if she tries when she has him down. If he's back to being Daniel and she ends up having him down,
Starting point is 00:22:01 the crowd doesn't let Daniel die. No, no. Nah, no. He'll be fine. I will say I was a bit disappointed that they didn't show June, just in tears,
Starting point is 00:22:12 distraught over, why did he leave? Why do you think he left? Right. I wanted, I just wanted to, I wanted to put a tap on my TV and just, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:24 drink up all those tears as she was bawling. I wanted that so badly. And they didn't give it to you. Didn't give it to me. I think when they show that scene, I don't think she's going to be bawling because I think she understood, like, her character-wise,
Starting point is 00:22:39 she understood why he was leaving, and he even told her why he wanted to leave. A guy can hope. A guy can hope. Yes. Thank you. And I will say that I appreciate the message from Justin, who messages me after every show. and his reviews sometimes are, you know, leaves a little bit,
Starting point is 00:22:55 leaves a little bit in the dust. But this week's review from Justin, so apparently Morgan has the infinity gauntlet that allows, allows how to traverse space and time. Alicia is just the worst and needs to die off. Amen to that. She's not a strong leader, exactly the same as Strand.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Her number one character trait is that she's a female actress in 20, 20. It was cool. It should be a main character moving forward. I know. Sad he's dead. And it's time to let Alicia go.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I'm with you. I'm with you there. And does Charlie get the barrel blade? Whatever. Yeah, that's whatever. I don't care. You know, she's if she
Starting point is 00:23:40 does something. But she goes back to, I mean, he's right with the, her number one character trade is that she's a female. That's exactly what we were saying, right? She's supposed to be this... smart, strong, lead, powerful character and not stupid.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Sorry, it's just... But that's what's so agonizing. Why are they writing them that way? I mean, come on. It's like, it gets to a point to where, I don't know, if you are, you know, if you are, like, a feminist, you're like, what are you doing on this show? Like, I mean, come on. So then, uh, what are we going to do?
Starting point is 00:24:22 talk about now well we can talk about a couple quick things we'll get into a little bit of world beyond but we also had the big announcement of the walking dead uh season 10 returns for the six bonus episodes starting on february 28 that's when i think fear's gonna come back so fear will probably come back then too as well right yeah and they listed the uh they listed the next six episodes home sweet home find me one more splinter divergent and here uh here's negan so and they added a new character the robert patty actor has been cast in the final season. He'll add to the group.
Starting point is 00:24:57 And I like him. He's a great actor. He too. Yeah. T-1,000. So that'll be fun. And that's something to, you know, look forward to. And we'll get at least one Negan flashback we know of with his wife, right?
Starting point is 00:25:11 And they may even do that a couple episodes, right, where he starts having flashbacks of his past life, which would be, you know, interesting. If they were to call me during this production, I would tell them how to do it, but I haven't gotten a call yet. I'm excited for a Negan episode. I've been wanting one. Oh, this is, those, these bonus episodes are going to be so good, man. I hope so. They tease the Commonwealth soldiers and all their armor.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I was like, it doesn't be good. I know. I know. I'm looking forward to it a lot. It will be great. And then we had, of course, World Beyond. And we have a couple. We have a double.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And I'm so looking forward. to a double episode of it next week. Man, can I not? So it's going to be all in one night? Both episodes back back? Yeah, next week. Ugh, painful. I know.
Starting point is 00:26:02 You know what? It's a movie. This episode was probably one of my favorites. The last two episodes have been pretty good. Yeah, they're finishing out more strongly. I was really kind of, I don't know why, but I was really interested in, what's his name, Max? Silas. Silas.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I was interested in, like, if he is, you know, this, like, the serial killer. Or if there's some more explanation, and there's obviously more explanation. Yes, I know. I'm disappointed. They made him. They kind of did, they kind of did a mix of it. They didn't do exactly what Jason was thinking, but they didn't do exactly the serial killer out. They kind of mixed it.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Yeah, because, I mean, yes, he killed his dad, but his dad had turned. Yeah. He was going to leave his dad alive after he smashed his skull in a couple of times and almost jumped him. So. But he does that when he's attacked. He doesn't do it just because. Right. Plus his dad's a mom beater and a kid beater.
Starting point is 00:26:57 So, I mean, he's fighting back. Nobody, there's not a court of law anywhere. Even after the world goes to hell is going to convict you of that. He's innocent in both cases. Yeah. One in the past and the one now. Yeah. So, I mean, it was, and we found out some interesting news from,
Starting point is 00:27:18 that didn't surprise me as much as it probably should have, but it was really good to see that the one girl, Huck, is the double agent. This was a cool plot twist. I didn't see it coming at all. So, yeah, again, they kept surprising me in this episode. But I always said, I never liked Huck because I were like. I know. I'm like, she's either overactive.
Starting point is 00:27:48 acting because she's a bad actress. You know, they were overdoing the conboy stuff, how she walked and how she talked, and her accent was just stupid. But then she was, you know, they did the flashback where she was the, you know, the Marine. Stupid Marine, you know how stupid Marines are. Oh. Oh, did I say that out loud?
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yeah, buddy. No, but I mean, so that kind of changed, my, seriously, it did change the fact of her toughness when they flashed back that she was a Marine. Right? So it kind of gave her that edge that you didn't realize why she had it. Right, right. But just the way she was acting. I'm like, but now I'm kind of like maybe she's acting bad on purpose because she was a character. She's literally acting in the show. Yeah. And did you find, did you catch the one scene that, that, uh, that Huck is actually the colonel's daughter?
Starting point is 00:28:46 that's what we're talking about yeah yeah yeah like that was the that actually kind of did that part we got to this one was that so she gave her the watch of the dad I know I know I'm I'll admit I missed that my first time watching does off like the rest of us
Starting point is 00:28:59 no I just mentioned it's usually me and so then in the show that follows once in a while I guess it follows every week on AMC plus now but it only follows on AMC
Starting point is 00:29:15 channel once in a while for the big episodes and it followed the mid-season finale and this episode of World Beyond last night. They had the guy that plays Silas on along with who else they have on. Huck, Iris, Morgan, and Strand. Okay. So it's a pretty big show for him. And just for a side note to you, Jason, and it was just an agonizing side note, I'll let you, I'll give you three. guesses and the first two don't count what country Silas is from. You're kidding me as a Brit? No. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:29:56 It was agonizing to hear him talk last night, man. That would have shocked the hell out of me. I would be expecting something else in there. Cheerio, mate. I was listening to him and I was like, wait a minute, he's British. Oh, come on. Hollywood, Hollywood. We defeated King George for a
Starting point is 00:30:13 reason. Thank you. We've got overweight serial killers in this country. That pisses me. Come on. I'm talking to one right now. I'm sorry. So in their question and answer
Starting point is 00:30:30 portion of the show last night, I remember last week we talked about, I think it was last week or maybe the week before, when we talked about how the rumors of Rick being part of World Beyond, because his name showed up on the
Starting point is 00:30:45 IMDB page and then it went away. And they said, oh, that was just a mistake. Well, in his interview last night on whatever that show is that follows with Hartwick, and it's Hardwick, I know. Hardwick asked, name, the finale, explain it in three words. His answer was, exciting, big, and Rick. Oops. And then he blew it off like, oops, no. Who said that? Silas. Wow. Exciting. Big and Rick.
Starting point is 00:31:21 So, you know, it sounds like, you know, they're teasing Rick showing up in that final episode. Ah, that'd be cool, man. I know. I know. And it looks like this final for CRM, which I know you're excited about. That's the only reason we're watching. It really is. It really is.
Starting point is 00:31:38 It is the only reason. They're like, I guess, it's just the one thing that I don't know. I don't know if you guys. I think everyone is probably pretty curious about is this whole, like, they kept calling the annoying chick the asset, the asset. Yes. Like, oh, Iris. First of all, I don't know if they're meaning Iris or they mean hope.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It could be either one, I guess. But I would say that it's hope, right? There's, I don't know. I mean, there's two, there's two reasons why that I can think of. One, they gave her like a cure and they want to test it or something. and she has the cure, or two, she's just leverage. She's the asset, or they're both the asset because they're leverage to keep Daddy working on his project. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:27 The cure thing would be cooler, though, for sure. Yeah, it would be, although it would seem, and this is just me, you know, thinking out loud, I don't have any proof of any of it, but it would seem to me that's possible that Iris isn't, you know, his real daughter. And hope is. And so they need the blood, right? And that would go to your cure. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:32:54 They would need the bloodline, right? They confirmed hope was the one they adopted. Hope is the thin one, right? Yes. And she was the one they adopted? Yes. I think we reversed that. I think that was a lie.
Starting point is 00:33:09 We'd find out that was a lie. Really? Yeah, we'd have to be that. That's, you know, whatever. We'll see. I'm not going to commit to that. I'm just talking off the time. All right.
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