Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S7 E4 | Talking Walking Dead | Fear Edition

Episode Date: November 9, 2021

Season Seven Episode Four TITLED: Breathe With Me World Beyond / Season Two Episode Six / Who Are You? WELCOME TO IT… With myself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill & Maximus Fisher EPISODE DESCRIPTION O...N IMDB - Against the advice of the group, Sarah searches for Wendell, and in the process encounters a dangerous survivor who forces her to take part in a search of his own.Listen each week as we discuss the latest episodes and what the future may hold…  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Season 7, episode 4, titled Breathe With Me, that makes this Talking Walking Dead, Fear Edition. Welcome, welcome to it, Talking Walking Dead, Fear Edition, with a little world beyond, of course, thrown in with myself, Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill and Maximus Fisher, the fear IMDB description against the advice of the group. Sarah searches for Wendell, and in the process encounters a dangerous survivor who forces. her to take part in a search of his own. So, you know, off the top of my head, the episode was okay, except that I have very little caring in my body for Sarah. Jason? Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Out of all the people they teased at the beginning of the show, they were in that little... At the fort? YouTuber's house where random walkers just bust through at the sometimes you know
Starting point is 00:01:19 just you know there's one yeah I was like oh cool we got all these people together it's gonna be good
Starting point is 00:01:26 and then it just spun off I gotta say this is the first time we've been doing this with you know the fear and the world beyond
Starting point is 00:01:33 trailing it I just want to skip over all of the fear episode I want to skip over 90% of the world beyond and just talk about one conversation
Starting point is 00:01:40 that's it oh I don't I know exactly what I'm talking about. I know exactly what you're talking about, but you still have more. I'll play your stupid game and we'll talk about fear first. What'd you think about it, Max? Yeah, I agree. It was weird focusing on Sarah, especially what we got, you know, Luciana, Al, Daniel,
Starting point is 00:02:00 and a few others in the beginning. It was cool seeing Daniel again, though dad was definitely upset. They're still going with that. But yeah, though, let's skip over all the interesting people at the YouTuber house. and let's just go with Sarah. Good call. Right. Right. Looking for the handicapped guy.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Okay, yeah, the twin. All right, I got you. Well, we knew they were adopted twins from the beginning. We've known that. We knew they were adopted. Of course, they weren't real twins, but it was just like they were blood. And we knew so much of it that she had to explain it again
Starting point is 00:02:33 later in the show of why it was like they were twins because they were born, and she couldn't breathe as a little baby in the NICU unless Wendell was close by. I got it. Okay, it's beautiful. Still not interesting. You can explain it 12 times, you know, Sarah. Still not interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Not interesting at all. I don't care. It's like the producers and writers like having her say, please like me. I'm important. I know. And then as we, as Max touched on with my man Daniel,
Starting point is 00:03:04 I mean, I think was time to move on. That really pisses me off. If they still have portraying him as struggling with his mental, capacity and he put him in Joe Biden world. No, thank you. No, thank you. No.
Starting point is 00:03:17 I'm sorry. No. It's just, it's strange. You know, again, at the YouTuber influencer house, you know, she wakes up from a dream and a walker is just wandering around. This is a little safe place we've created. Oh, that was because we don't know if Daniel
Starting point is 00:03:33 shut the gate. Okay. If we've been involved in this now, and we're to believe that you believe Daniel has mental capacity issues why is no one double checking any of that it doesn't make any sense
Starting point is 00:03:49 to me it's just a plot device for when anything goes wrong blame Daniel are you sure Daniel well yes well no that pisses you off because I know you love Daniel agonizing so and I didn't mind
Starting point is 00:04:06 Josiah yeah Josiah I didn't mind the brother the bro the brother of the bounty hunter we've met in the beginning of season six yeah i didn't mind him he's a good character and he's gone now right he just wandered back off into the into the nukeland i guess i don't know if he's going to come back or whatever and we got the you know we got the meeting at victor's house i'm trying to get through this quick for you jason i'm trying to consider we no i wanted to say this though we lost rufus we lost rufus we'll get to the stupid dog the best the greatest bloodhound in all of the walking
Starting point is 00:04:40 dead. All the world. History of the world. Rufus, the greatest flood hound ever. He travels the entire state of Texas and sniffs out people all over. I mean, that's actually a huge loss. He made it through the bombs going off. And yet
Starting point is 00:04:56 a head got him. Come on now. Well, he was in the maybe he was in the nuke haze. I don't know. He puts Lassie to shame. Remember in every episode? It was like, hey, Lassie, go get dad. And Lassie would get dad. miraculously. But like this is like, hey Rufus, go find someone
Starting point is 00:05:13 named Tom. Tom Smith. And Rufus is like, whoof, and goes off like 10 minutes later. He needs to smell something of his first. At the other side of the border. It's insane. He needs a sock that Tom once wore 10 years ago before
Starting point is 00:05:29 the nuke blast, we can find him. No problem. Two thousand miles away. Unbelievable. But, you know, okay, it's sad. We lost Rufus. Not the only expected. And we didn't even get to see him get killed. Right? I mean, we stood and pull out the gun.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I mean, at least I wanted to hear the fire of the weapon. Nope. We just buried them after that. I like Rufus better than dog from Daryl's dog. Because Daryl's dog, he's the most unloyal thing ever. Just like whatever chick that he, you know, if he gets a whim. Right. Rufus was more loyal.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Yes, absolutely. Yeah, I can agree with that. And what do we do to loyalty? Killed it. Kill it. And how do we miss the opportunity of seeing a walker dog? That would have been dope. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:19 We've seen animals get bit before. They don't turn. Yes, but Rufus was a super dog. I think this one would have been different. Yeah, he was more human. He was more human. He was more human. He was more human, so he would have turned.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I mean, no question, man. It was awesome. I have to say this about Josiah. He's a really cool character. But the one thing is, I'm like, dude, your brother wielded a really cool one-handed axe. You wield a spade. Yeah, well, that was his gig, though, right? As the park ranger and the firefighter in the woods, that's what he needed, right?
Starting point is 00:06:52 That's his weapon. And so then we ran into the... The stalkers. The stalkers. Yeah, he met a couple of stockers. As they heard it up the walkers. Still doing their thing, man, or raping them walkers. caught red-handed getting them nude
Starting point is 00:07:11 I think the name was more embarrassed than surprised he was like oh crap this is not what it looks like I am really curious what the hell the stalkers are up to home boy was just like hey I showed up they were naked I seriously had nothing to do with the nudeness that was not me I just answered the ad. I was looking for a gig, and I just answered the ad for this. That's it.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah. It was in Craigslist. Look, I just showed up. They were nude. No one else was here. And then we had the Dudd Warhead. Right. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:57 We caught that in the crash and just miraculously crashed by it. And then the stalkers ended up with it. Right. So then we had Sarah and Josiah and Morgan. We forgot to mention Morgan's fight. Morgan comes out of the woodwork from Wyatt aren't, you know, if he could get to the area that the influencers, the YouTube house are living in, why would he not be there instead of in the sub that's still under the cloud of the nukes? I'm confused on that too, but that's just me.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Well, he would have to bring Grace and the baby. And nobody wants that around. So that's a good point. Nobody wants that around. No, we're sorry, we're full. Man, I wish we could keep you here, but we can't. Sorry. Just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It was nice to have Morgan there, and I, you know, I get it. And it was his little deal with Josiah. Then they end up seeing, It was good to see Victor. That was a cute little sign. My God, I love Strand now. I don't care what everybody says. As soon as they get there and then Howard shows up,
Starting point is 00:09:08 I like Howard's basically second in command now. Yeah, oh, absolutely. And he's going to be the one that is working behind the scenes to bring down Victor sooner or later. You think that? You think Howard's going to, is trying to bring down Victor from the inside? Not now.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Not yet, but I mean, I feel like that's the only way in. Right. The only way in. What about you, Jason? Talk about the biggest poser ever, and I think we've all seen someone like Howard in our work or on the internet or especially on Twitter. But it's the biggest dweeb, the biggest, you know, wuss. But they talk all tough once they're like behind either something anonymous like Twitter or they're behind someone like Strand. All of a sudden they become, oh, yeah, I'm a tough guy. He annoys me.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I just want to punch him every single time he's on camera. Like, shut up, dude. You're a tough guy. The whole thing was, I mean, the whole basic thing aside from Victor taking over was his idea, right? I mean, he was the one that had the museum. He had the safe house. He had it all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And Victor just came in and said, okay, it's mine. Took it. Yeah. So he's got to be at some point. He's got to decide that, hey, this was mine. I want it back. it'll be some kind of weasley way like i don't know maybe he'll outsmart strand at his own game because again he's not a tough guy he's not going to do anything like some kind of armed revolt
Starting point is 00:10:37 he'll i don't know accidentally nudge him off the top of the brow of roof or something like that or more likely have one of his goons do it for him it's really interesting too uh we find out to that uh wendell is within the tower yeah well that's what victor said right i don't know that that That's true. And he's thriving, apparently. Right. Oh, yeah, because of his, he was good at, uh, uh, engineering. Yeah, that's not what he said, though.
Starting point is 00:11:09 But anyway, he, you know, he, he was a truck driver. I mean, he understood logistics. Logistics. That's what it was. Yeah. And, uh, so, okay, I guess. But is the handicapped guy really the best guy to choose? I still say, no.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I know. I'm not opposed to allowing all people to thrive and be alive. But in the time of the apocalypse, when walkers are coming, and it's you and me and a guy in a wheelchair. I'm saving you. That's just me. Now, I guess I'm a bad guy. Well, another thing, too, though, is like he's stuck in a tower where no one will really hurt him as long. But he wasn't. Yeah, and then Victor said... He wasn't. They've got his chair in the cow pastures with the naked walkers. So who saved him? I mean, they had to drag him along or he had to crawl in. I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:08 This is the one reason I think Strand's not lying, though. He said, this is not a revolving door. I will tell him to come out here. But once he comes out, he's not going back in. That wouldn't, I don't think he would say that if he was lying. How many people know about Padre and Alicia this group and all about. How many people actually know about that right now?
Starting point is 00:12:30 Morgan? Grace and from the trailer and from the trailer Dwight and Sherry. Yeah, that's what we get next week, right? Yeah, we get Dwight. And so Morgan is in contact
Starting point is 00:12:44 with the YouTuber Influencer House? No. That part didn't get. But he is in contact with Sarah, who was at the YouTube report. Well, he is now. He is now. He heard her on the radio. Yeah, he is now. That's another stupid thing, is She's broadcasting looking for her twin. She's giving all the information away over the airwaves.
Starting point is 00:13:01 I couldn't believe it. And that's even what Josiah said. I heard you say everything. So, I mean, she's giving everything away. That was not smart. Yeah. I'm like, I'm still kind of flabbergasted that we've seen, we haven't seen Alicia once. Like, this makes no sense to me.
Starting point is 00:13:18 And we've seen Daniel and the rest of the group once. Yeah, I know. Like, come on. Let's move this along. You know, I know that we said One-off episodes, but this is kind of tripling, quadrupling down on that Too much?
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yeah. By all means, they gave you what you wanted. Have the whole group together. You know, this is just, I don't know. It just feels like stalling to me. Yes. And again, we lose no one but the dog. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:49 All right. I mean, somebody's got to die somewhere. Not everything is about death, father. Somebody's got to die somewhere Alright, so next week we We get Dwight and they all are fighting over Padre, I guess That's what they're all looking for, right?
Starting point is 00:14:06 It seems like they're turning into outlaws And that's what it kind of seemed like But And it's going to be the title of it is till death So I mean That may be and I don't have the actual IMDB description But we'll
Starting point is 00:14:23 you know, I'm sure till death, is Dwight going to be back arguing with Watcher Face? Oh, Sherry. Okay, if we have to have to have an episode of that again. We got that with, we got that before the dooks. God. I know, I know. All right, so, you know, it wasn't bad. And again, I know that the thing is with fear now, we're basing it off of the crying
Starting point is 00:14:47 baby episode, which was probably the, you know, one of the worst episodes, at least in this. shows memory. And so any show that is better than that, it doesn't mean it's good. It's just better than the worst. Yeah. It's still poo.
Starting point is 00:15:07 They both stink. Even if it doesn't, it stinks a little less, it's still poo. All right. Thank you. And then strand at the end is that is the nice part. Yeah. And then what made everybody laugh with us at least is the
Starting point is 00:15:23 is the stalkers. Right. Right. And we'll see, I don't know why we're messing around with them. They're just going to be a hindrance to get to Padre. Right. So, okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Fine. All right. CRM. World beyond. I don't. I don't really mind this show now. It's grown on me. Except that I do want Iris to die desperately.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I want her to burn in the fire of hell. It's funny When we were It was I paused it and I explained to him last night Of the characters he's grown on and the characters he's liked from the beginning And he was like you don't know that and I was like yeah I do your face says at all But out of all that and the characters he's grown to like One has always stayed at the bottom of I hate this character and that's iris
Starting point is 00:16:14 He hates her There's other characters hawk and I mean what you're getting to I'm assuming is the Jadis Huck. Yep. It was awesome. And it's good. Jadis has pulled this show up another level. Oh, it's made it a completely different show when she's on camera, you know, when she's in scene.
Starting point is 00:16:42 So I would like just to tag along with the characters I like or do not like. I really only like two characters. I like the Julia Armand, Colonel character because she goes towards, you know, all the tie-ins. And Jadis is one of those tie-ins as well,
Starting point is 00:16:57 which I like. Yeah, no question. So I don't care about the teen angst, you know, oh, how are they going? I don't care. I don't care about any of that. I'd cringe the entire time they're on.
Starting point is 00:17:06 But when Jadis or the Colonel are on, it's interesting. Because the characters aren't interesting. None of the other characters are interesting. What about Jennifer or Puck, whatever her name is? She is part of the CRM. Huck, you mean?
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah. Well, her name's Jennifer. I like that where when Jadis basically went at the end of that conversation was, my name wasn't always Jadis. We know it used to be Ann. So. Well, with the garbage people, right? I don't know if that was her real name,
Starting point is 00:17:33 but that's what that was, she said it was Anne with the garbage. No, no, no, no. She called herself Jadis when she was with the garbage people as well. She called herself Anne when she was with Gabriel, saying that is her real name. And then as soon as she joined CRM, Well, anyway, all those conversations were cool because it showed how manipulative she is.
Starting point is 00:17:52 And she's still doing it today. Like, there was that, we always, like, remember we were making fun of the, you know, the garbage people speak. Uh-huh. And so, and she, what was her direct that? She was like, you know, it was to create this, uh, yeah, to manipulate them, basically. Give them their own language. Right. Oh, yeah, I just loved every.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I don't know how, I don't know, are we skipping directly to that or do you want to talk anything else? because there's just so much to pull out of what she was said in that. I don't know. The rest of it was, you know, they're looking to get out of the city, of their complex. We had Felix getting stuck in the freezer. Looking around with Hawk. We had the River City people. I don't know what else.
Starting point is 00:18:35 I don't know what we call the little town. The group outside the country folk city. You know, there's trouble there. There's trouble in River City. uh with there um we had at the end the ending was awesome i did enjoy that when the kid was being nice and giving uh will his father's gun and then he gets his head shot that was just like boom what awesome anytime there's death i'm okay with it so that was nice and i added a you know another a little quick plot twist that they're out still looking for people and will is still in trouble trying to get
Starting point is 00:19:15 into the complex. But yeah, the rest of it. We fit a little bit more like Lila, I guess more confirmation. The dad knows now that she is part of, you know, the scam.
Starting point is 00:19:28 No question, because he remembered the paperwork at the beginning that fell out was the same paperwork that was justifying all their killings and the studies. And what's the bio weapon? Like,
Starting point is 00:19:39 what do they have? I think it might be poison gas. It's my guess. so and it has nothing to do with the does it have anything to do with the walkers i don't know and it might it might right because they're i mean they're and maybe not it might have something to do with that's how they killed everyone in omaha right but i don't think that they know what has caused the turns right if they knew that well maybe they do maybe they know what caused the turn they just don't know how to cure it. Yeah. I don't think so, but
Starting point is 00:20:19 we don't really know that part, but the bio weapon thing isn't, I think that was just what might have been poison gas. And they never found, you know, when they went into the basement, Huck and Felix, they didn't find her really special test room, right? He never found that. He found the frozen walkers, and he found the test tubes and all that stuff that they're keeping track of, which we know,
Starting point is 00:20:45 by the previews that they've realized that they're missing one next week. But he never did find the special little testing room, you know, that Lila was working on. So I don't know that they, they don't know the full story of what she's trying to, what she's trying to work on. But we do know how we could, you know, between our conversations with Jadis and Huck, at the, you know, in the family room as we're getting a drink. We're getting back. We actually find out that
Starting point is 00:21:18 Jennifer Huck, whatever you want, called her, trained Jadis. Right, at the beginning of the military days, right? Yeah. And that conversation was awesome. We learned a lot. We learned a lot. It was fascinating.
Starting point is 00:21:33 So, yeah, one of the big things. So a lot of questions answered from when Rick disappeared that final episode. We always thought that, like, the A or the B, A meant like, I don't know, like alpha, you know, or something like that. Now it's A was someone that they want to test on, that test, you know, I guess their Walker stuff on. And then B was somebody that's important and can help the community. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So Rick was labeled as not only that, but she said that trading him in and I'm saying him, she's being, she didn't come out and say Rick, but we know that's who she's talking about. We know exactly who it was. gave her a leg up in the CRM. So, okay, my brain was like going crazy then. It's like, what the hell did Rick do while he was in the CRM to give her this big leg up? Or had they been watching Rick the entire time and just turning him over? I think that's what I took from it is that with her communication with them and what Rick had been putting together, they were aware, right, of what he was building.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Now, they could go in and wipe them out, but why? Let's just get Rick with us and let him see what we're building. He's a guy that can be a part of us. Yeah. When I started thinking about what has he been doing this entire time as this like big time person in the CRM, I got this picture of like Doc Holiday, just like clear and fools out. Yeah. The weird thing is, though, whenever we do see that,
Starting point is 00:23:06 either in late in the Walking Dead show, maybe even in this show or in the movies. The thing is, they have to have a pin in Rick. They have to basically say, oh, there's a reason you're staying here. Because if you don't, something bad will happen. Because at this point, it's been a long time, like Dead Show over almost 10 years. In World Beyond, we now know it's six years that time frame. At least six years, right? Yeah. So at that point, what are they doing to keep Rick there? Because we know, just because of his personality, as soon as he figures out a way out, he's going right back to Alexandria to go back to his daughter.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I hope they pay all the, I hope they pay this conversation off in the first movie where it's just like Rick instantly right. It just picks up right when he's in the helicopter. And they just take us all the way through. And they do the time jump, you know, at the end of the second one or whatever to catch us up. Right. Because I'm just, I'm, I'm so curious about how he was interacting with the Colonel Chick, what she knew, what Jadis and Rick were doing together, you know? We might get that, we might get that in the last part of season 11 for the regular Walking Dead. You think so? Well, I mean, I would like to have a little bit of that in that. Because we have two big segments of the final season left, right? We've got the second segment and the third segment of the Walking Dead before it's over.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Definitely some of that has to be addressed if we're ever going to see a movie and that has to lead into it. We've got to be addressed that in the end of Walking Dead. I agree with that, but you seem still really skeptical about the movies. Oh, I read that article you sent us, you emailed us, and they don't even have a script yet. I know. They keep selling the whole thing and it all gets. it's written in, but there's nothing being actually done. I'm starting to wonder if that's just a carrot.
Starting point is 00:25:09 So you continue to watch this. Thank you. Every time I read, interviews by all these people, they all are, you know, big about the movies and it's still happening and we're still creating all this. And are you?
Starting point is 00:25:25 Are you really? I know. Okay. What if they are? And they'll just blame the pandemic. They'll blame the pandemic. I already have plans. They already have. I mean, that's why we've milked the rest of this out because of that.
Starting point is 00:25:37 Actually, Kirkman said he was very happy about the pandemic, so that gave them time to completely rewrite the script. I'm not kidding. He did say that. Okay. We gave them time to rewrite the script. That's assuming they actually had the script written to be good. That might have been an idea on a bar napkin, which I'm happy. That's good. That's fine. I rewrote the line once upon a time, because that's all I. had. I put a different date on once about a time. That's how I rewrote it.
Starting point is 00:26:10 It's still once about a time. There's a different date on it. I know. But seriously, how many people, I'm curious how many fans they lost after Rick was written off the show. And then how many fans are holding on
Starting point is 00:26:24 because they think they're going to tie this all up at the end with the Rick moves. I know. I know. They're hanging on pretty strong. I mean, they lost a lot after the Negan kills. Negan kills were the worst one. And then they fought back a little.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Which is dumb, which is dumb because that they not read the comics. I mean, I completely agree, but we all know the facts that after the Negan kills, people dipped. Yeah, I know. They thought they'd reached that was the end. But the AMC Plus, pretty much that came through and helped them a lot, saved them a lot. And so they weren't counting on just the cable viewers. They got their own buy-ins for the people that are hardcore. They're in. They're AMC Plus. They're in. Sure, you can create other stuff, but we're here for the Walking Dead stuff. And so they've got to use that
Starting point is 00:27:18 to create something. Whether they end up making that, just where they make the movies for. And then there's the people who have Netflix who wants the seasons over. All that stuff goes to Netflix. Well, and Netflix helped save Walking Dead, and then that, you know, that's still there, you know, letting people hang on and bringing in some new viewers, no question. I mean, Netflix made Walking Dead anyway, really.
Starting point is 00:27:42 You can make that argument that Walking Dead was a good show, was on AMC, people liked it, but once those first, I don't know what it was, three or four seasons hit Netflix, it blew up yeah because people you know and I am one that you know I mean I remember my wife saying you
Starting point is 00:28:06 probably should watch that and you know I remember you know sitting down one weekend saying all right I'll start watching it and you know I didn't stop until it was over I'm a big fan of those like hardcore graphic novels like you know how the 300 was first a graphic novel that really hardcore and a lot of others like that watchman yeah watchman and then they're in someone i can't remember i think i saw it on twitter or something they were like showing screenshots of the first episode of walking dead the comic book and they showed screenshots of rick like walking you know through the hospital and they were like perfect i was like holy crap i was like i should watch this that really is what got me in the very beginning and i it's just those like how they
Starting point is 00:28:52 how they tried to like mimic exactly how the original canon was and I think as they've gotten away from that my interest has fallen off considerably. Yeah well I mean that's the same as I mean you can make that argument with Game of Thrones right I mean he was the as long
Starting point is 00:29:08 as there was as there was the source material yeah they were doing you know right on and then when they had to come up with stuff outside of the actual source material is when they started you know veering off right? Shut up you like the last season. I'll never
Starting point is 00:29:28 forget. I explained this to him on Sunday when I bet, I asked him what his immediate thoughts were, and he was like, oh, you'll wait till the show. And I was like, no, that's not your immediate thoughts. You didn't like the ending of Game of Thrones originally. Now you're a defender of it. He just like, it's because he just like to piss people off. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:29:49 That's not worried about that. All right, so we have, you know, thanks for listening. I mean, is there any final thoughts? I mean, I loved, I've, I'm, it's, it's kind of sad, actually, and good for them, I guess. But this final season of World Beyond has, you know, starting to get into it. Yeah, I'm, they did a, I thought, okay, so I read an interview between the Jadis chick, whatever her real name is, Max. I actually don't know the actresses name. What?
Starting point is 00:30:19 What? Crazy. Oh my gosh. I read an interview between her and somebody interviewing or somebody in the media. And they were asking her about her character coming back to the Walking Dead. And it sounded like it was very like last minute. It was an accident. It like wasn't totally planned.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Really? Which kind of worries me. If that's true. What was her name, Max? Do you find it? I found it. I can't pronounce her first name. Jadis.
Starting point is 00:30:51 That's a real name. Her life. Last name's McClintosh, but I can't pronounce her first name. Pollyanna. Pollyanna. Pollyanna. That's what it is. I remember that now, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:01 I remember smiling about Pollyanna. Which, by the way, the makeup department does an insane job of making her look really goofy on the show. But she is a smoke show outside the outside. I got the pictures. Let me see that. Let me see that. Okay, hold on. I see some other pictures of Pollyanna.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Oh, God. Hold on. It's like, well, she was on one of those like, I think, It was either talking. Yeah, I think it was talking, but they had a bunch of other people on set. And I was like, that's not Jadis. Oh, yeah. Oh, my.
Starting point is 00:31:30 God. Right? I'll be back in a moment. Oh, my God. No. So, anyway, you know, that is a surprise, yeah, if she was, if that was a, if that was just a second thought of, yeah, let's go ahead and do that. Yeah, because it almost makes you think like they're going to do more tie-ins, you know, to the rest of the show. through like Jadis and like explaining what the CRM does and the possible Rick hints.
Starting point is 00:31:58 But if it was just a, if they're going that direction, I'm on board. I'm on board. I can just mute it every time they go to all the Teen-Ax characters and I don't have to like pay attention. I'm just saying I wouldn't recommend doing that because it seems like they're going to be really important soon, like the actual CRM stuff. So I wouldn't recommend doing that. Plus you're not going to want to miss. You're not going to want to miss when Iris gets burned in the fires of hell.
Starting point is 00:32:21 make sure you're recording for that. Dude, what if there's like a literal Rick explanation and you haven't muted? You know what? That's what you listen to this show for. Like that little dinner would have been kind of cool. Just kind of like the, you know, between the island and all that. But then like, she's like, oh, really?
Starting point is 00:32:41 What about the mice experiments? It's like, shut up. Like, even if you could have picked any other thing to bring up tension and just make it uncomfortable because we know you don't like her. But you're like, what about the mice experiments? Shut up. Here's the thing. Like, Leo and Hope, I like them.
Starting point is 00:33:00 They're actually good characters. I know you actually really like Hope, Dad. But Iris, uh... It's just agonizing. And you're right. There was all kinds of things that we could have learned at that dinner and that she could have learned had she kept her big fat mouth shut about the worrying about the stupid mice.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And just her face. The snotty teenage, you know, I was like, oh, you know what? If we have to be nice people and not want people dead, okay, then I will. Then her and what's his face, her lover. Oh, what's his name? Yeah, Percy, Mr. Magician. You like Percy. If they want to run off with each other, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Gosh darn it. We'll miss you. We'll miss you, but go. Though you think Percy can do better. A person could do a lot better, although he's probably, he's whacked out of his mind, so maybe not. All right, we got to, it's time to wrap this thing up. We've got to go. Thank you for listening to Talking Walking Dead with Jason Butchell, Maximus Fisher, and myself, Jeff, Fisher.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Be sure to subscribe to Chewing the Fat. That's the mothership of Talking Walking Dead, and you'll know when the show drops every week. One sentence, one final thought, Jason Butchrell. Fear worries me. They need to get everyone together moving forward. stop with this one off crap. World Beyond, moving in the right direction, keep showing more Jadus, keep doing
Starting point is 00:34:24 tie-ins, that'll keep people like me watching. So, to be continued, I guess. Maximus. We need more Strand with fear. He definitely seems like a really good character going forward, and I think he'd be a great anti-hero slash villain. With World Beyond,
Starting point is 00:34:40 I definitely want to see what goes on with the CRM moving forward and everything that goes on there. Hopefully Rick shows up by the end of the show. Okay, you know, great, one more thing. In terms of, like, Strand, it's so funny. You can tell they have a model on their storyboard, and they're like, okay, this is a fierce season. Who's going to be our cosplay character in this season? So we did the chick that thought she was a cowgirl.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Who's our cosplay character now? Let's just make him Strand, have him dress up, you know, as a revolutionary. Who will it be next season? Stay tuned. They teased us with the influencer house. We've got the YouTube house. And we've got the cosplay at the place. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Just leave it with that. I got to go. Just remember, I think this is going to be a common theme, though, with me. Kill Iris.

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