Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S7 E5 | Talking Walking Dead | Fear Edition

Episode Date: November 15, 2021

Season Seven Episode Five TITLED: Till Death World Beyond / Season Two Episode Seven / Blood and Lies WELCOME TO IT… With myself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill & Maximus Fisher EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB for Fear - With a code to guide them, Dwight and Sherry become ethical outlaws known as the Dark Horses; when Strand recruits them for a search and rescue mission, it forces them to question their code and their future. EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB for World Beyond - Dr Belshaw will have to make the most important decision of her life. Blood will reveal the truth, and lies won't be tolerated anymore. Listen each week as we discuss the latest episodes and what the future may hold…  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 7, Episode 5, titled Till Death. This is Fear the Walking Dead edition with The Walking Dead World Beyond thrown in as well. That makes this particular broadcast, Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it, Talking Walking Dead. Myself, Jeff Fisher, Jason Butchel, Maximus Fisher. The Fear IMDB description with a code to guide them, Dwight and Sherry, be come ethical outlaws. known as the dark horses. When Strand recruits them for a search and rescue mission,

it forces them to question their code and their future. Welcome to Talking Walking Dead. I did, you know, gut reaction. I kind of enjoyed it. I kind of enjoyed it. It was fun. Same. I actually really liked it.

I had my, for the second time this season, I had this point where I was like, wait a minute, I know what they're trying to do. So I started making notes. And that doesn't happen often on fear. I liked it. I did. Well, I'm surprised you liked a Sherry episode. I don't know. She was looking pretty good.

She was looking pretty good. Maybe that's what it was. I don't know. Yeah. Well, you said that about when she was in the mask episode, too, and you didn't like that episode. Which episode? The one with the mask people. the one

Oh, right, right, right, right. It's a group. No, I kept on having these moments where I was like watching it in slow motion and she was just like killing walkers and there was a different theme song in the background. And I was like, I'm probably watching a different show than the rest of you guys, but I'm enjoying.

I did enjoy it too. It was actually really good seeing Dwight and Sherry again. It felt good seeing other characters other than Morgan. Yeah, the dark horse rangers. No, no, just the dark horses. whatever. That's what they're called. The first thing that stuck out to me is when they, when they, when they mention the code, like we're sticking to the code.

And that's when I started, like, taking notes. Because I was like, oh, they're, they completely understand that it's very fine line before you turn into Negan. So they have to establish something at the top because they've been there and they don't want to go there in the future or turn into that. That's why that's why I thought the theme of the whole episode was. And that's what kind of. It was the thing, right? Absolutely. That is what it was.

I mean, they even had the sanctuary offering from Strand. Yes. Yeah, they couldn't be more blatant of that. I was like, dang. Plus, Maximus was all wound up at the beginning of the episode because we have yet another... Another what? Another fallout.

Oh, it reminds me of Raiders. Basically, like, in the beginning with like, oh, no, you stole from people. Okay, so you have a choice. you could either go turn those things back and or I kill you and we turn those things back or you will kill us or we kill it. It very much like a choice you can make in Fallout.

Oh gosh. They are really focusing this season on Fallout and I love it. It's hilarious. At the top of this episode I wrote down on one of my notes, I like Dwight and Sherry, but always seems like it's only a matter of time before she runs off again. Yes.

exactly what I was complaining about last night. I'm like, it's time to be done with her. It's a drop of that. I get that they're so in love, okay, they're wonderful. But at the drop of a hat, she's ready to leave. She's ready to leave. I know. I'm like, what?

And you're just waiting for it. Like, okay, three, two. And then it happened. I know we did. I know we decided on this, but I'm going the other way. Goodbye. Oh, wait. What?

I didn't, you're not even giving me a chance to, yeah, no, we're leaving. I'd love to hear them give their vows when they got married. It's like I honored to love and protect it. Unless you do the most minor, small thing, and I'm out of here. That's like they'll just inject that into the vows. This whole thing started to remember, hey, they were breaking away from Negan, right? And then she runs away.

He traveled all the way across. I mean, that has got to be a good woman, a good woman. I'll just leave that statement there. You can think about whatever. You can put it whatever way you want. I'm just saying that that's got to be some serious business. If you were traveling across the country for her.

Because at some point you're like, well, man, there's other choices. I think there's like that. So you got to, you got to, you know, appreciate that little subliminal thing. They've stuck into all the male minds because we're catching on to that. And we're like, okay, this is worth watching because

of something that my subconscious is doing to It's there, though. You have, Max. It's in the back of your brain. You're sure about that? It's going to come out. You don't even know it's there. It's yet to be traveling across the country for some female. It's agonizing. Well, we forgot to mention, too, they were still with the family they found before the nukes and the little bunker. Oh, yeah, the bunker people. Yeah, that was fine. I thought it was funny. Yeah, they're promising Padre because they, I wrote this in my notes, because they heard it on the radio. And I'm like, is there like a WKRP Padre?

Yeah. Everybody's heard of Padre at this point, but we don't have, we have no clue where it is. We don't know what it is. We just know it's a place. I know. And we're going to take the third caller. And we're going to get a third caller on WKRP podra. A brand new winner will come to Padre.

We can't tell you where it is, though. But good morning, morning. Tomorrow's broadcast on Channel 4. You know what else The beginning of this episode Remind me of I don't think I've ever had a dragon fruit Oh

I don't know that I've had a drag I mean I've seen them I don't know that I've tasted one before Because there's a couple other fruits That are out there that you look at and go You know what? No thanks I'm not starving yet

At any rate I don't know if they grow in Texas I could be wrong there but I don't know They do want the nukes go off. Then they grow and they grow fast and you're good. That was my first thought looking at it was like maybe you guys shouldn't be eating the nuclear-grown monstrosity. They were testing it like that. Oh, it's fine.

It's fine. Is it really? Is it? I don't know. Yeah. A similar. Like, so when they first ran into the fake tough guy, as I've been calling him, you know, Strand's goon. Yeah.

Stran's do boy Howard. Yeah, or whatever he is. Howard. So much. Every time you see him, he's always standing behind the actual tough guy. But he's got the face of I'm the tough guy. Oh, it irritates me. I'm in charge.

But I loved how he said. He was like, yeah, you guys can take off your masks. It's all clear here. Never mind the weird nuclear winter haze that's in the background that's clearly not natural. I was like, what are you talking about? It's fine. Like, the atmosphere should not look like that. It's like...

It's fine, though. Quit your whining. Yeah, so it's fine. It's perfectly fine. It was... I did... And then when we ended up at Strands, the sanctuary... Oh, it's technically called the Tower.

I mean, he is a... He's a fun character. I love... Clearly out of his mind. Clearly. He's a fun character. He is not... It's...

Yeah, I mean... I love it. At this point, I don't know if they're just trying, making him so over the top crazy because he's pretending it, or they're really trying to sell that he is not right anymore. I don't know. Because it's so extreme, it can go either way. I know.

I'm with you on that. And I'm wondering how he, you know, we had the first episode where he just threw the guy off the top of the building, right? But, I mean, he's got a lot of people to control. So it's pretty strange that no one has said, you know what, dude, no. Well, Mickey did, but we... Yeah, she snuck out, though, right? Mickey snuck out in her, you know,

phone book suit with the walkers, which, you know, we've seen our original people. It's been long enough now. Everyone should know that you can walk among the walkers with goo on you, right? I mean, you're good. You just need a Halloween town mask. That's all you need.

And you are so stuck up on the whispers, aren't you? Halloween Town mask and just whisper and you're fine. Not only that, but they'll like you and follow you around. Right. That's right. I apologize. Oh, yeah. Oh, love.

Just get a plastic mask and walk around. No, it has to be real skin. Yeah. It has to be real skin. Yeah, so they get to, they smell the real skin. I know. Yeah. In that meeting, I was curious because they might have said this before, but I think it was

Strand that said they had 200 people in his tower, but they can support a thousand. So there's at least 200 people in there. Right. Yeah, that's what they said. Right. And he's picketing, choose. And so I guess that it's fair that, you know, the crazy guy is in charge. I feel like, and Howard is going to lose his mind as the second in charge at some point, right?

He's going to be the guy that's going to have to go in and take. strand out. And he's totally the guy that, I don't know. You really have weasel vibes with Howard, don't he? Big time. He's like the Brutus. Like he'll be hanging out in the background and

we'll backstab him or he'll slip something in his tea or something. I don't know. He is. Beto Brutus. Oof. Yes. And then, I will say that, and you can do some highlights from the notes

that you took, but I did enjoy, the the grapple rapel right that was no the grapple chapel the grapple chapel they were at you know at the wrestling and boxing ring that mickey and her husband ran that death scene the choreographed you know death scene was killing walkers was was fun that was that was that was fun yeah the but i put down the pile drive walker awesome yeah she finally did she finally did the move off the top I don't know that was awesome Which, and you had a smile on your face the whole time. It was fun. The song and everything that they played during it, I was like, oh, this is so cool.

Mickey's a fun character. Yeah, I like her. And then, uh, and then at the, you know, I want to have a baby. Oh, God, shut up. Well, before we get to that, because it's a, I was, that was a surprise. Um, so we meet Mickey in this little house she's been held up in, and she's trying to repair her phone book metal armor. Right.

Then we find out who she is and Dwight fan-girling when he recognized her. That was great. Dwight definitely fan-girled her. Yeah, there was no doubt about that. Yeah, it was interesting to find out why. I mean, the reveal there was that Strand didn't want to find her to help her. He wanted to find her because she knew the route and way to get out. And Strand does not want that to get in, to get it to leak out to the rest.

Right. So, yeah, he's full on, like, dictator crazy. He's on the road to be in Negan, pretty much. I mean, it's got to be, there's got to be a underground parking garage tunnel or something, right? I mean, it can't be that difficult to figure out how to get out of the building. I know it's surrounded by walkers, the ambiance sound of walkers around the building. Well, the thing is, like, we know, we know Strand and Howard and they, their crew know how to get in, but they have a specific way to get in and out.

That's not what Mickey took. Mickey said she snuck out through the walkers, which I don't know. Strand probably doesn't know that. Right. Strand thinks that. Yeah, no, he don't. Right. Strand thinks that she went out his way because he lost one.

He doesn't know that she went out a different way. Anyway, so it was a fun ride. It was nice. We lost a couple of people, right? Oh, the family. Yeah, that was a shocker. That was a shocker. I liked how the guy he was Mr. Evil, but he couldn't kill the kid. He just took her toy. He killed her though. He did kill her. No, I know, but he didn't kill her. Right. You let her turn. Yeah. That makes it worse. That was shocking on a couple levels. Shocking because it was, that's like what you normally see in a zombie movie, you know, like a kid that turns. And I thought that was awesome that they did that. But I was just shocked that they showed that. Because that's, that's some balls that the show has not been willing to go in in multiple other episodes. Oh, that's kind of true. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I'll give you that. I like that.

They definitely have taken away. And they, they did that and you're giving them great credit, but they didn't show Dwight killing her. Yeah, that's true. DeWalking her. They just happened, right? He had it was sad and pushed her away, but we didn't see, we saw him grab his knife. death, yeah. After that, my two notes after this are hilarious. I just, I wrote down that Dwight was so eager to give in. You know, he was all, maybe Strand was right, blah, blah, blah.

I'm like, that just seems like so weird because that just goes completely against what Dwight has been about since he left the main show, the relationship show. He's just going to go underneath another leader. I know. That was the whole point of their marvels, name. dark, why does every team, why do I have to have a team? Like, that's another note I had. You need to, like, get them, like, marvels the Avengers, but now you're Marvels

the Dark Horses. Come on. Sounds more like a D.C. Dude, dude. Hey, that's like two teenagers. Like, hey, let's come. It's more like a D.C. The Dark Horses sound more like a D.C. thing than Marvel. Get it right. Yeah, okay. Same thing. No, they're not. They are very different.

Yeah, okay. And this is funny. Like, right after that, I put, and there it is, Sherry would leave at a heartbeat. Right. I know. I know. And she just says anything to keep Dwight around.

Oh, I want a baby too. There's no way. There's no way she wants a baby. I'm sorry. You really think that? Yes. No way. I know what I said, but I have to leave now.

We can't have a child. We can't bring up in this. I wouldn't trust her with having a kid with. Are you kidding me? I would like to see. She's probably got a notebook. book of like it's titled at the top, things I will leave Dwight

for. Number one, the eggs are too runny. Number two, he doesn't take the trash out at exactly 8.30 a.m. Come on, it's got to be a laundry list. Added to the list, Mickey.

I mean, someone new every time. I'm leaving for that. No problem. Absolutely. And then, you know, if she does have a kid, then, I mean, Dwight's just stuck with the kids. She'll leave after that. here I just had a kid for you bye take care it's just agonizing

and at the end she actually apologizes she's like oh I'm sorry for she actually said I'm sorry for ditching you and I just put in my notes LOL like Dwight's probably like geez if I had a dollar every time I heard you say that

yes we also meant we also forgot the guy that they met in the beginning part of the two people that stole the dragon fruit and one of them got killed. The other one was the one that killed the family, and we find out Strand was the one that put him up to it.

Yeah, and I mean, that's just Strand being, Strand, getting rid of the people that he doesn't want around, and he also would be thinking that if he gets rid of the bunker people, that that would drive Dwight to him, and it almost did. It almost did. And so he would have, you know, the couple that he wanted there. And that was fun. with the, you know, the horse kicking him back.

The whistle of the horse and, you know, drop kicking him in the back. That was fun. Horse kicks. I have a friend who's been kicked by a horse a couple times. He hates it. Yeah, no kidding. And then, of course, and you talk about teams. And then we went from the, you know, the dark horses to the three nukeeteers as they're

racing across the freak. They're still called the dark horses. We just need to get Mickey a new horse. They're still called the dark horses. All right. Also, Nucateers? Sounds like a fallout thing to me.

Yes, it does. Yes, it does. So, anyway, it was, oh, and then we, then they met,

then they met our favorite group, the, the stalkers. Right, at the end, the, the, the new cateers run across the stockers,

right, and they're trying to come across those Notre Dame Bush. They've got you surrounded, though. You're going to join us. And we need you to find pod, The mystical Padre, right?

So we know that they aren't creating the radio show every day. They don't know where it is either. Well, yeah, they just like stripping walkers. We still have no clue what the heck the stalkers are up to. Just the weirdest group ever. Now they have a warhead. Now they have a broken warhead. It's going to get explained, but it's like when you don't provide crucial context

and let the audience, you know, try to guess, we're going to continue to say they're raping the walkers. I mean, I'm sorry, AMC, but unless you fix this, they're out there raping walkers. That's just what's happening. That's what's going on. Definitely. Yes. And to be honest, and the morotted,

and it doesn't matter what gender they are or what they were. The morotted, the better. Okay. Okay. And then we headed into World Beyond. Did you stick around Mr. Butchell? It was really good. Holy crap. This episode. We learned a lot. beyond whole.

We actually got answers to a lot of things. It wasn't bad. I don't know if I would say, holy crap was it good, but it was a decent episode. For sure. I said, holy crap, we got a lot of answers.

Yeah, it was fun. I mean, it was, I, Jadis has saved it for sure. Yep, yep. Her character has really,

you know, brought the rest of the show together. Yeah. No question, because that's up to the game of Hawk and her husband. and Silas and still it hasn't changed. The people that

the people that you were willing to lose, you're still willing to lose. Like, and I'm okay with, I'm, you know, we're not going, it's not going to happen. I know Iris isn't going to die, but I can

just live through the episodes hoping it does happen. Yeah. It's all I want. It's all I want. But it was fascinating to see the doc double cross them. and then Jadis double cross her. The rat finally, what was the line? The rat will eventually get tired, the dead will not.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I ended this episode the most confused I've ever been as far as like who died. So like when the evil doc lady gasped that guy, I thought that was Percy the entire time How did you think that was Percy?

I didn't know who he was but I didn't know that it was Percy He looked like it was she got multiple new test subjects Anyway, that's fine either way So we know that it wasn't Percy He was a he was some soldier guy I was like I thought they were doing flashbacks And I was like waiting for them to catch me up Because I was convinced that was Percy

I don't know all you white people look the same but I don't know what it was I wasn't I could not tell I thought it was Percy I was like okay what did I get to do the reveal and then I was like oh maybe he's dead but he just hasn't changed yet and that's going to happen I don't know I was completely

right I didn't I was just the reason that it threw me is that they did never they never did and obviously I guess they didn't have to because it wasn't a character integral to our other characters but it would have been nice to know who that person was

right i mean because we're watching him alive and then getting killed so it would have been nice to know whether he was a you know a soldier that screwed up led somebody through the gate he shouldn't have whatever something we just so that we knew who he was you know why what led him to get in there and it would have been something that we could have all said well he didn't deserve that i mean does anyone deserve that well you know maybe you know like iris anyway but one thing i actually want to mention, Jason, that I forgot that I only found out after we recorded last episode

and they mentioned it again. Jadis Stokes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, she took What's His Face's name? That's Gabriel's last name. Oh, interesting. Yeah, she took his name. That was more than manipulation for her.

She actually liked him. Yeah, and she, and she grew, And she kind of liked my man Silas, too. That was good. She kind of liked Silas too. She was, I like that. You know, he's got the big clog hopper feet. And he kind of, he threw her a bone not knowing about the garbage people.

He's like, that's like, oh, really? You got a problem with that? No. Homegirls clearly got a foot fetish. Because that, like, went uncomfortably long. She was like, how about them feet? And I was like, okay, it's going to. And then she's like, yeah, those are some strong feet.

No, those are some clob hopper feet. I was like, dude, okay, you got a foot thing. Then we had Dennis come in, and apparently he has a history with Jadis too. Well, they all do, right? I mean, that's the special inside group, right? That's their special inside group. And we found out that Hope's boyfriend, you know, his dad is the guy in charge of the military, right?

He's the man. So, I mean, they all are that inner circle of the crowd, right? So they're going to, unless you go against them, you're going to live. Because they're going to make sure that you're safe. And further clarification that the, uh, the civic

republic military is operating without oversight. Yep. I called that. The politicians. I mean, well, they said it last week, too. No, they're hit it at it, but they didn't really say it. this one they can basically confirm the Civic Republic government has no idea

what their military does outside these outside these walls right right right so I mean that and again we knew it without actually knowing it I know it's okay but it was a fun show and that they're like in the in the CRM military

is basically just using this gas to just take out all their competition which is pretty wild I don't know I thought the strength of CRM was how many partners they had which is not how they see it. No, it's not how the military sees it at least. I don't know about the government, but...

They're on the East Coast, they're in the middle of the country, and they're on the West Coast, but they want to... I don't know, like what? Yeah, and just be one location. I don't know. I don't understand either. It doesn't make a lot of sense. They took out Omaha, and they took out Omaha on the campus. We know they want to take...

got Portland. I know. That's what we're saying. It's just, it doesn't make any sense. I know. If they're in where, are they in D.C. or New York? New York. Yeah. Well, this is, this place is in New York. Now, the government is somewhere else, right? That's where they say the main civic republic is all, never

revealed its location. Like the the civic republic government has never revealed this location. It's interesting. It is. It doesn't make a lot of sense that you would want to lose. That's a lot of people to lose. That's a lot of people to lose.

Anyway, I was just looking, you know, as I was scanning the globe of episodes. We have three episodes of fear left for this half of the season. We have three episodes of World Beyond. Then that's it. World Beyond is over, right? It was a two-season deal. It's over. So we have three more episodes for this show before it's done.

And then as I was going through the episodes on IMDB, I get to the last episode of IMDB, and then I scroll through and see the characters and, you know, writing all the credits and the cast and full cast of characters credits after the last episode of World Beyond. And I know that I feel like we talked about this last season. But now we have, I see that all they all at the episode. After the last season, after the last episode for the full cast of credits, Andrew Lincoln is on it. So, will we get Rick in one of the final three? Here's the thing, here's the thing, everybody. This happened last season.

And we were all hyped up because it was the same thing. It wasn't on any of the IMDB episodes except the final one. And we were all very hyped and excited for Rick. And you know what happened last season? Nothing. Get a Max. I know Max just wound up at me for talking about. Rick's not coming back.

Wait, he's on the, he's on the character list in the description of the episode. The cast of characters, the credits for at the end of the show. Yeah. So like each episode has cast of characters and then they have a full listing of all the cast and characters at the end.

So what's the schedule? What's the release schedule? Like, so are they nearing a mid-season like finale and then they're going to come back for another and then that. For fear, for fear, but not for World Beyond's ending in three episodes. Yeah, it's over, done. Have a nice day. I know. Boy, be ashamed to have something blow up and lose a bunch of those people.

You don't want to lose Silas, Felix, or Elton or Hope. I don't care. Do you like Silas? If, if I do like Silas. I do. But if it cost me Silas to have Iris go down so. Darn it, I'll miss him. I'll shoot.

And I wish you wouldn't have died with Iris. But, oh well. Okay, I got to say this. That was a hell of a scene with when Lila had the vial, when she got the vial back from Hope. And then she brings it into the interrogation room and she just spills. Yeah, she spills to sell out. to sell out the dock

because in her warped mind she thinks that's going to save everyone noop well it did it got it got uh it got uh it got leo to be the one in charge right it didn't save her that's what I'm saying

it put her it put her it put her on the top and it proved that she's was expendable I remember I remember reading in a I don't know if it was it might have been something you sent me I don't remember it was it was something about World Beyond and they were teasing

a big character reveal, a character that we've already seen before reveal or the character we'd be familiar with. I think that was Jadis. I think that was Jadis. No, it wasn't Jadis. It was after that. I mean, they were...

But again, Max is right, is that you know, they've teased this Andrew Lincoln on the IMDB before and it was just to, you know, to create some you know, some talk. And then And they said, you know, after season one, of course, it wasn't going to happen. That was just a mistake.

But he's still there. He's still there is all I'm saying. So saying it was possible that he could show up. I don't, I don't believe it. I mean, Jayda saved him, right? So, I mean, he still has the tie to them. Yeah, I mean, and you would think you would be near where they're at because why would they take him from Virginia to like one of the other locations. doesn't make sense.

Well, he could be with the CRM government right now, which we still have no clue where that is. I understand, but I'm just saying that at some point, we, he shows up, right? Even if he's, you know, walking out of a,

look, we'll be happy with the stupid show if he's walking out of a building somewhere. Yeah. All previous sins forgiven. Right to go. We'll be almost success. Jaydus runs into the two military commanders

and how is, to give her report and we see in the background Rick coming out of a building walking through into another building that all is forgiven. Yeah, right. Oh, God.

I don't know. That would piss me off more. I would have to see him like walk back from like fighting and he's got blood all over his face, got the cowboy hat on and he's like holding a gun in one hand like a buoy knife in the other. It's like, I'd be like,

you have the cowboy hat. Walks by the. Judith has the cowboy. Walks by the. military commanders with the John the John Candy he's General Hey General

I want Rick grabs to walk by them as the John Candy character General that doesn't really fit Rick's character Oh stop it It's just for fun I just want to be in just one show up

That's all That's one show up All right so Jason I know I know you've got to go So final thoughts I was surprised what fear did I like that But again I think it was because it was a tie to the mothership show

And when they tied it to that It gave us old fogies You know some nostalgia and it gave us something to relate to So I I like the trend of that I hope they keep that going The Padre thing is kind of annoying to me They're like where the heck is it you know It's like where is it that

Look at a map There's Padre Island at the bottom of Texas. That's probably where it's at. Go that direction. I just throwing it out there and it's probably where it's at. But if it's not, I genuinely hope it's not actually that, just to make it so much funnier. It's the only thing that makes sense.

Why I call it Padre? It's the only thing that makes sense. And world beyond, it's funny to me that Jadis, the way that they described it was not going to happen initially. And they were like, oh, yeah, well, let's, hey, let's throw Jadis in. Jadis has saved the show. Absolutely. She's the only thing interesting in the show because she's letting us into all the inner work CRM.

So that's the only thing keeping me watching it, really. Yeah. I mean, she is, she is, I mean, we talked about it earlier, but, I mean, she's the one that's tied to all the characters and the shows together. That's, I mean, that's great. And I definitely believe that with Jadis being here, it's definitely given a lot of, lot of character development to, uh, Huck in particular. Oh, yeah, Huck and Dennis, right? I mean, and hubby.

I mean, they're going to be, those are strong inside characters now. Yeah. So Huck is approaching that I'll be kind of sorry if she dies, like area now that, and just, just because of her relationship with Jadis and the, and the backstory there. Yeah. So she's approaching.

I'll be shocked and, you know, it'll get me into, you know, I'll be sorry if she dies. Yeah. Which I can't say that for anybody else. I know you could say that about Felix. No, I couldn't. I don't care about Felix. Silas, maybe.

I don't want him to die. But I really don't care about Felix and Will and maybe hope. Maybe, maybe hope. For sure, not Iris. For sure not. And I don't care. Nope, don't care. I mean, I know he's all in love back at the River City.

But so. They've given Silas so much screen time now. I think I'd be, I'd be shocked, too, if you'd be... Yeah. Nobody else. But, yeah, I'd be... I know.

I know. A Percy... You know, they're not going to kill Iris, although I would love to have her gone. But Percy could go. Well, we actually... In fact, that might actually... It would be better for Iris's character if he...

We actually had a... We actually had a scene with Percy and Puck in the room, where she's basically, like, shoot me. You'd be doing me a favor with what I just learned. I know. And then they broke away, though. I mean, then they just broke away. And he ends up going back to Iris and she goes back to Dennis and, you know, runs into Silas, which was nice.

That was the part I was shocked. I was like, wait a minute. He's dead. Like, they just gasped him. I was like, is that the big reveal that he came back to life? And I was so, like, abused. No, the one she gets. Do they have a shot that brings people back now?

Oh, that's the big reveal. The one she got. The one that they got. Gassed was the one that was the one that gassed is the is the Walker that killed Lila. No, I know. We got it. I know. We got it.

I still can't believe you thought that was Percy. Like it's not like him. No, it doesn't. Brother. His twin brother. No, it does not. Okay, you guys can fight later. Thanks for listening to Talking Walking Dead.

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