Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S7 E7 | Talking Walking Dead | Fear Edition

Episode Date: November 29, 2021

Season Seven Episode Seven TITLED: The Portrait World Beyond / Season Two Episode Nine / Death and the Dead WELCOME TO IT… With myself Jeff Fisher, Jason Buttrill & Maximus Fisher EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB for Fear - When baby Mo gets sick, Morgan successfully pleads for entry into Strand's Tower; Morgan quickly learns even Strand's benevolence has its limits. EPISODE DESCRIPTION ON IMDB for World Beyond - As the plan continues to unfold, tensions between the group and the CRM come to a dramatic head; while some rush to save an ally, difficult truths are brought to light. Listen each week as we discuss the latest episodes and what the future may hold in all things Dead… Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 7, episode 7, titled The Portrait. We have Fear the Walking Dead with the Walking Dead world beyond to talk about, and that makes this Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it, Talking Walking Dead with myself, Jeff Fisher, Jason Butchrell, and Max Fisher, the fear IMDB description. When baby Mo gets sick, I had about enough of this kid. Morgan successfully pleads for entry into Strand's tower, and Morgan quickly learns even Strand's benevolence has its limits.

Welcome to Talking Walking Dead, Mr. Bustrow. We'll get to work on because that's really the only thing I care about right now, to be honest. Really? Yeah, really. Yeah, I mean, fear is, okay. I mean, I like it. It's fine. But all right.

We really got, we have Morgan poisoning, doing a female poison of, Strand. Okay. Anyway, I mean, I'll just, I'll stop. I'm getting way far ahead. I know the title of the show was The Portrait. And Strand couldn't take it because the portrait was just too darn good. And it made him look too darn nice. It was perfect after the walkers good all over it, stepped all over it, which is, you know, makes a lot of sense. But it was, you know, I enjoy Victor's character. It seemed like last night he was ready to come back to the good side until we had the

Morgan poisoning thing, which was just, I don't know, weird to me. It didn't seem like a Morgan move, but okay. No, I agree. Totally out of character. I was thinking the same thing. But to address your earlier point, it's hard not to look ahead past fear because I found myself the same way. Like, I hate World Beyond.

but now we're so close to the end. I know. There's only two episodes or one episode left. One episode left. Yeah, it's like we're looking for one thing. And that's all I'm here for. That's all I'm watching for. And we keep on not getting it.

I don't think we're going to get it. Sorry, I'm getting. You know, I actually enjoyed fear. I did. I wanted it to end. But it wasn't a painful end. I kept getting like these little, you know, hints that it might be bad every time that kid opened its mouth.

I was like, here we go again. Here we go again. I know. It wasn't as bad as the other baby crying episode. And this episode was pretty good too. And the episode wasn't bad. It really wasn't.

It was just some weird things that happened where I was like, oh, I didn't expect that. Oh, that seems out of that person's character. Right. And we got, you know, it was definitely some, you know, some good things in the episode. No question.

The catapulting. Yes. Trebuellae, whatever you want to call it. Trebueche. Whatever, that's what I said, the catapole. That was awesome. That was hilarious.

We hadn't seen that before. It was great. That was awesome with the bits of the explosive inside the blockers. Between that and world beyond, we have two very unique Walker killing machines that we've never seen before. The hamster wheel.

The hamster wheel. The globe death. The globe death. was awesome and I will tell you that I believe that is a foreshadowing of something to come. That's the only thing. Through the whole scene of that world beyond, all I could think of was this what's going to happen. And I think that's what this big announcement is next week on the show that comes after. Just say it.

Hardwick. Oh, Hardwick. He promoted the show next week as being, let me see, I want to be sure I quote, Chris correctly. Special guest from the Walking Dead universe that will blow your mind and very very big announcement.

Honestly, it's a great big deal. So, they have Jadis on next week. They have two of the director producers, executive producers. The one guy is one of the guys that produced I think three of fear episodes

this year. I'm not sure about how many the producer of World Beyond did and then the special guest now of course we all want it to be mr lincoln yeah you know is that going to happen i don't know i i think it's going to be i was telling max last night it's going to be and we have bill mcgillic mcgillic bill you've been a walker in 85 episodes of walking dead. He's been a walker in fear and walking dead and world beyond. And let's take a quick snapshot of every walker you've been. Bill McGillicotty, congratulations. That's what it's going to be. That's what I think too. I'm not. The big announcement is going to be AMC is going to open up

a theme park and you two will be able to run in a globe and run over walkers. That's what it's going to be. It's totally. Yeah, I think you're right, man. It's going to be Bill or something. I'm just, I'm losing faith that it's going to be what we want. This is what I think. I know we're skipping way ahead, but I think it's just going to be another maybe Jadis conversation. That's what I'm thinking. I think they're going to give us something because they know that all of us diehards that have

been there since episode one. We want something. But that's all I'm guessing that it's going to be. It's just going to be, I don't know. Probably a Jadis conversation. That's what I'm going to predict. going to be her mentioning or are kind of alluding to Rick again, but that's going to be it. The one thing, though, that really bugs me is this major general.

They're being so secretive with who this cat is. Who is he? Why don't they show his face? I don't know. Right. I know. I don't know. And we got the tease of mom coming back next week.

Oh, yeah. I can't remember her name. but Huck's mom. Right. She comes back, but we don't, we didn't see any evidence that the major general shows, right? We know they have his kid, you know, still, and, you know, which is safe now, right? I mean, whatever his name is. Mason.

Beale. Is safe now, so, you know, or at least under the protection of Jadis. Maybe the announcement next week is, you know, we've loved the Jada's character so much. We're going to do World Beyond Deuce, and Jadis is going to be the star. I don't know. I don't think so.

I think they're sticking to World Beyond is two seasons. And I think that theory, this episode might have confirmed that theory some people had where our characters will lose. Yes, they absolutely will lose. I mean, they're going to blow it up, right? It's going to blow up.

But they got nothing. They got nothing for it. And if they're going to bring continue with Jadis, she's going to live, you'll see the last shot of her will be, you know, half an arm blowing off or something, it'll be still alive.

And it'll kill a bunch of them. And hopefully, I mean, some people would say that what a shame it would be if Iris were to explode in the gas explosion. Not that I would enjoy that at all. Not one little bit. She's got to go. I think next episode,

we'll probably see a lot of deaths because there's a lot of people that just need to die. Yeah. I mean, like, don't really matter. Like, I fully expect Huck to die. I think her husband's going to die. I felt like he died this week, but we just didn't see it. Wait, he's still alive, right? He's still alive, right? He's still alive.

Yeah, but she was kissing him and crying. And then the next time we saw her, she was outside crying. And that's when she found the, that's when she found the gas tanks. but I don't think he's dead though okay all right you know maybe not but he's really close

I mean the two dingleberry Silas and Elton haven't come back with the meds yet so he's still struggling with you know a possible infection from the easiest bullet extraction ever I mean those of us that have been wounded

before in battle no difficult it is to remove the bullet right And so, I mean, so they haven't returned. And we lost Percy. That, that surprised me. I was not expecting Percy to die. I wasn't.

I mean, I would have, I would have rather had Iris get shot. But, you know, that's the way it goes. They're saving that for the finale, Dan. I know. That would be great. Well, I, I'm expecting all. Like I said, I expect a lot of other characters to die. I don't think any of the main characters.

are going to die, meaning the kids. I don't think any of the kids are going to die, but I don't think that they'll stay together. I really don't, because this has all been kind of like them coming of age or coming into who they are. And I think that at the end of this, they're all going to split up. It just makes sense to me. We lost. We're going to walk away and we'll meet up later at some point. Do our own thing. Yeah. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. But in that, there's got to be some kind of reveal. I don't know what it is. There's got to be something. I just think we're going to be let down as far as what that reveal is going to be. I did learn one thing. I have not been spoiled, but I do know for the series finale of World Beyond, there will be a post-credit scene. So we have

to watch after the credits. So that's adding to the universe then from that. Because we know the one executive producers said that we know it's six years after trash lady left right after they after they picked up Rick and took off because that we have Jadus now six years later okay so here's the timeline from after Rick got picked up it's eight years from that guy said no no it's from walking dead it's eight years skipped forward with with at Alexandria

and their group. It's six years after Rick got picked up in World Beyond, and it's like maybe just before or just after in fear. Okay. All right. So to keep the universe alive and growing and throwing people toward these films that we're supposed to believe are going to happen, they've got to throw Rick somewhere. We've got to know what he's doing, right?

I mean, we have to. He's got to be advising the major general. He's got to be somewhere. Jadis has got to get that mentioned because while she didn't in her one little speech to Huck, right, or that one kid, the one kid where she talked about what she had to do in the past, she alluded to Rick. We all knew who she was talking about, but she didn't mention him specifically. Yeah.

So, I don't know. We'll, I, I, I, I, I mean, let's get to it. They better, I don't know what their big announcement is. If it's a theme park or Bill McGillicuddy, I'm going to be pissed. I know. Tell me. Tell me. Honestly, what if they, say it's not a Rick that shows up as the special guest, but they do,

but their big announcement is we are making the three movies and they're still on track. Uh-huh. Okay. All right. Then that's... And they have a release date. And if their release date is they're going to, since the pandemic, and we've seen that it's so difficult to get people back into the theaters again, we're just going to create it for AMC Plus.

That I see happening. Yeah. If they're going to continue to make them, it will be specifically for AMC Plus. I wouldn't be surprised about that. That I would not be. But unlike you, I still think it's going to be the trilogy. Yeah. Okay.

So if we get back... What's that? I'm so tempted to watch that episode early. I'm so tempted. Me too. It's like I... What's stupid is I want to find out so badly, but I think we're just going to be let down. I mean, this show is never really delivered at all.

So I don't see... It's just weird because since it's over, they got to do something that points to the movies, right? Yes, they have to. That was the point of this, I thought. That was the whole point of jumping ahead and... and congealing the universe, right? Yeah. I thought so.

I mean, I don't know. What's his face? Gimple, you know, Mr. Head of the Universe, all. He's been on, you know, that show many times, so he can't be the special guest that's going to be exciting unless he, you know, record something from the house that says, just AMC Plus.

Just got to be. Yeah. Hi, oh, yeah, we've decided it's just AMC Plus. back to you okay yeah thanks and did i mention bill mcgillicuddy who was 80 times a walker throughout the entire universe congratulations man we've got a walker plaque for you bill thank you i mean it could happen oh gosh so anyway that's good then we'll get back to fear all right so uh fear was enjoyable we had the flying walkers right we had the nuke walkers we had uh we had uh we had uh we had had our girls show up at the end.

Finally. I was like, I was like, oh, Jason's going to be happy. We're getting, we're getting Alicia back. She's the leader of. Two seconds. Yeah. Yeah. And that costs so much money that we were not able to show you the group

killing the stalkers outside of Victor's place, outside of the tower. That's unbelievable. I know. Yeah. So that, that took me way off guard. Like having Alicia as back. So I thought Alicia was going to be the reveal down in Padre. Yeah.

Not the leader of the stalkers. Yeah. And how they, so is the offshoot group that's not with her? Are they the ones raping the walkers? Or was the Alicia's group raping the walkers? The way I got it is that, because she said not anymore with the rapers. What was his name?

The guy. Arthur. Yeah, whatever his name is, the lead raper that was talking to Victor. What if it is? Alicia's group that are stripping the walkers, but Arthur's the one that left. You know, it's so funny is if, like, we were in

the actual show, you know, like, in this world, and they're, and they're, like, walking around as a rag tag group, you're like, hey, you've seen the stalkers? Like, stalkers. Oh, you mean the rapers? We would have the best names for all of these different groups. Like, rapers, what do you mean? The rapers, you know what I'm talking about.

Really, really, funny. It'd be awesome. So, I mean, it was, it was, it was an enjoyable episode. It was. I will say that fear was an enjoyable episode. I just, I was disappointed in using Morgan to be the poisoner, you know, and it's just out of character for him. And it's a, a poison is used by females, by the way, not men, men kill, hand to hand.

I've seen many men use poison in movies. Have you seen Hitman? Whatever. Have you seen James Bond? Real life. And it's just a strange turn for Morgan. I agree. Like I can't be the only one thinking during the episode.

I can't be the only one thinking it might have been Howard. I know. I thought so too. Yeah. I thought so too. Now he may have, we may find out that he assisted Morgan. I don't think so. To, uh, to kill Strand.

so that he, because there were a couple times when Morgan was talking, they shot to him. And he had that look of, you know, agreeing with Morgan. And just, you know, taking care of him, taking care of the kid, you know, letting these people come into the fold, that kind of thing. Yeah, because he kept saying, these are people with skills that we need. Yeah. You could tell there was some doubt. Yeah.

For sure. So, I mean, he's, you know, obviously he's, you know, behind Strand. but I feel like he assisted in making sure because he's the guy that would make sure that Morgan didn't have any poison on him, right? Yeah. Yeah, he totally seems like he'd be like a Brutus and Cassius type person.

We still might see that, you know, at the end. Oh, sorry, Jason, continue. Well, I was just to say, is next week, next week is the mid-season finale? Is that right? Yes. Okay. And it's going to be the flashback episode

with Alicia. you in the bunker. Yeah, we find out what happened to her. That's Padre. We find out, you know, does Padre actually exist? Obviously, we know, not so much. It exists in a campsite out in the middle of Newkland with the rapers. Yeah.

I'm starting to doubt because I was thinking that Padre was just going to be like a safe area, you know, like Padre. Yeah. That was kind of a layup. But I don't know now because it was like, yeah, was that in the credits or whatever or the preview for next week? where they showed her, I think it was her picking up a folder that said Padre on it, top secret. Yeah, well, that's, she gets, it's in the bunker.

Right. And then that's, I think that's where she, because it looked like they were going to kill her. And I think that's where she meets Will, you know, the guy that Victor threw off the building that was there for her. So I think that's where they come together. So that will be, and then we'll be back to the exploding nuke walkers. out there in the middle of Newkland with Alicia, right? I mean, that's where it ended this week,

and that's going to be the final progression before we get to the next half of the season. That was a cool ending, I will have to admit. Yeah, with the contaminated walkers? They exploded, and you see like this mist headed towards them, and then Morgan, right. Put your mask on, let's go.

Yeah. Out, no doubt. Yeah. I know. I do like the idea, Yeah, and I didn't, I don't know that I was aware of this. And, you know, while, you know, having spent some time at Chernobyl from time to time, you know, recovering people. I didn't realize that, you know, hey, the wind is blowing west.

Okay, take your mask off. You're fine. I don't worry about it. Fallout is directed by wind. That is exactly how you're supposed to do it. Okay, Mr. Nuke expert. I got you. I'm not a nuclear scientist.

I've just done research. It's simple research, Dad. I got it. I know. I know. I'm just saying it does seem a little strange that we're in the middle of this wasteland. And it's, ah, it's fine. Put the finger out. Oh, it's blowing that way. Okay, we can take our mask on. Perhaps they're referencing survival mode and fallout because you need to do that. Oh, there you go. That's exactly what they're doing then. That's perfect.

Did he get some RADX? RadX, yes. I am so happy you know that. But we also know the biggest thing in this episode of fear was the return. We actually saw the return of Wendell. Oh, yeah. Wendell rolled up with helping everybody out. Come on. All right.

How did he get up there? The elevator was broken. That's what I want to know. They build a ramp for him, four stories. That's possible. Anyway, yeah, we got Wendell. And we learned that Wendell wasn't aware that Victor didn't let a sister in, right?

Didn't let the girl in. Well, yeah, we know he didn't tell him. Yeah, I mean, he, and he said, what? Why would you do that? And so, you know, that now we're creating even more friction within the group and Victor. Wait a minute. Wendell was up there before the elevator broke.

Yeah, I got it. I just thought of that. I got it. Okay. Just a handicapped joke. I got. Facts are important. I know.

It's just a wheelchair joke. I'm sorry. You don't. like the trucker twins, do you? No way he would be alive. I'm sorry, no. I mean, I'm happy that we're all woke and we have the guy

on. I get it. And his character is fine. But we're at a point now. There's no way he would be alive. I'm sorry. Just no. I don't believe that he would be alive. I'm glad that he is. It's okay. I'm all good

with it. There's just, I'm sorry. No. I mean, in real life? No. Sorry. Well, what if you met him if we were in that situation? I would say, bro, I'm going to save you up till it's time to run. And then you're on your own, bro. Talk to you later. I'm not pushing your ass and getting killed because of you. Sorry. Not going to happen. And he's not going to do that to me.

It's just, I'm sorry. It's just funny. They're just so uninteresting and forced into the show. Like, you know, there's so many of those characters now. And actually, I think in both the regular show, Walking Dead, Fear and in World Beyond, I know. And it's okay. It's okay. I got it.

I know we have to do it now in today's world. And my answer to that would be, do we? But yes, we do. I know. But I'm just saying that there are times in those episodes, whether it be fear or world beyond or Walking Dead, in the universe where these people, these people really wouldn't be around. And you heard Jadis with her speech of how, in World Beyond, of how actually, you know,

justifying the killing of Nebraska and the upcoming deaths of Portland, her justification for it. And that's not saving people in wheelchairs. Okay. That's not doing it. Her justification. If we're to believe that that's where the military is at and that's where the new Republic is at, they're not saving people in wheelchairs. They're just not. Yeah.

What'd you say they were a drain on resources? Yeah. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, their, their own personal study was going to show that, you know, down the line, there's no way. We, we're just too much of a drain, too much of a pull. It's costing it's too much. They got to go. No, it is interesting that we, we know this for a fact that the, the, the, Civic Republic military is not in communication really with the Civic Republic government. We know that. I'm curious how their government would react to this if they knew. Well, I feel like that maybe the overall government isn't aware, but there's no way the military,

you know, the major general and Jadis and Huck's mom is doing this completely in anonymity from the Civic Republic. Right. There's going to be people in the government that are aware. Yeah, we know. I saw the study. It's okay. They die. This is, there's so much drama built up between that, that storyline, not revealing who this major general is. I know. That's, we've got to be sniffing around the plot line for the movies. That's got to be. Have to. We haven't seen the leader of the civic republic. We haven't seen the leader of the military, which I guess is the major general. Right. It's got to be this fight. seen Rick. We haven't seen right. And he's got to be tied between those two somehow. Right. Right. I know. And maybe Rick is the leader of the Republic. And we need to, you know, we have Jadis and another Dingleberry. What's the kids name? Mason. Mason. Mason, Beal. Maybe, maybe Beal, the major general, is, you know, dealing with Rick as part of it. And maybe Rick then doesn't know. what the military is doing someone else around him does but then he doesn't and he would be the one to try to shut that down right and not just wipe communities completely off we need to bring people into our fold that makes sense maybe he's in portland they talked that up a lot too yeah that's for sure that's very possible but i don't think jadis would wipe out portland without getting him out of there right he's already saved point yeah that's already saved him she wouldn't get it she wouldn't do that

that although he may, you know, at the time that they're, and again, you know, if Gimple wants to call me, you know, we can work it out. But, you know, maybe he's in, he's not, he's part of Portland. Yes, that's a great call, but he's not there. And so they just tell him the same thing that they told the dingleberries they pulled out in Nebraska. Eh, yeah, Walker heard. Boy, man. Suck to be them, huh?

I think you guys are really overestimating the possibility of Rick just being. a higher up of the CRM. I don't think so. I think he might just be a grunt or something that they forced into not leaving. No way. Well, so why would he? So, yeah, I thought about that too, like, what his role would be, but like, why would Jadis be exalted getting such a big stature just for Rick?

Right. Like, not for a grunt. Like, they can get grunts anywhere. Like, if she was exalted, she was made an officer in their military. Well, for one, she was made an officer because has Jadis trained her? I'm not Trace trained, Huck trained Jadis.

Yeah, yeah. Right, but she said that she wouldn't even have been allowed into the community. Right. If it wasn't for Rick. I mean, Rick was her, was her way back from her, you know,

study in trash land. Right. Right. I mean, that's how she got back in. Right. She was out there doing studies and figuring out how to, you know,

create a society, uh, without a military. and, you know, she talked about how, you know, language, you know, you get people to do things. And yet, you know, she was brought back into the fold by bringing Rick. And it makes me think that she was sent very specifically, go find us the next Napoleon, or something like that. Right. You know what I mean?

And so then she, that was her one mission was to find the next Napoleon, some military badass, you know, or something. Yeah. The next great deal. She had, she had, she had Negan and she had, um, the reverend, the great Reverend Gabriel, and she had Rick. Who she took the last name of. Right, but I'm just saying that those were the three strong points for her, and she ended up with Rick.

Right. So, I don't know. I'm going to be bummed. Yeah. If we've sat through two years of this freaking World Beyond show, and we get no Rick. Yeah. Okay. How about this one?

This one's an insane theory. What if my show? shows up in world beyond. That's not good enough. I don't think the universe has a character that can show up right now and be

strong and gel the universe like Rick Will. Right. No way. No way. Yeah, it's Michone. Okay. Oh, wait a minute. No, she can't show up. I just timeline-wise, she left after this point anyway. She's still in Alexandria at this point, world beyond. Never mind.

Right. Plus, she's got, you know, Marvel movie to make or something. I mean, absolutely, could she come back? Sure. And no question. But, you know, there's no one. I'm sorry, I just don't see it. I don't see anyone else jelling the universe like Rick will do and like we expect it to happen. How do you not bring him on for a cameo?

How do you not do that? You have to. Rick, I mean, Lincoln is not signing on for another show. he's literally just giving us quick cameo at the end of the series how do you not like I want to be pissed I'm me too

don't get your hopes up we got you do not care about your fan base at all time out right last last year we were hoping for this because we saw the IMDB thing and everything and it didn't happen so I'm just not getting my hopes up I'm I mean

I'm just reserved that I'm going to be pissed what was the point of this show if we don't get Rick and Iris survives I'm gonna be shut this damn thing down shut it down okay here's the thing I here's my theory

if Rick were to make a cameo it's going to be in the end credit scene it's going to be after everything's over and it's just going to be after the credits I don't care what it is. Yeah, okay. And then have him show up on Talking Dead to promote the universe. Fine.

I'm okay with that. But he's got to be part of it. It has to. You are. Jason, you're right. You're slapping your audience in the face. And you're not actually moving forward into the universe. You're just like saying, we might get there.

You know, it would be hilarious. Did I introduce Bill McGillicuddy? Bill, you've been 80 walkers. us. Get in here. Get your goal watch. Right. You know it'd be hilarious. If it's something else that really connects us to the universe that we're not thinking of. And, and.

I don't know what that would be. We're not thinking of it, but just what would we think that it would be? I don't know. I'm just saying, I guess that could be, that's an idea. I mean, yes, they absolutely could give us something else. It would be wrong. Mr. Butchell. I know it's time to wrap this thing up because I could, well, I think really, you know, I enjoyed, I enjoyed fear. We got Alicia. We got Victor losing his mind a little bit, still being the power hungry guy, seeing himself in the portrait after it gets ripped apart and goo down from Walker's.

We've got Morgan out there reuniting with, with what's her face? Alicia. Yeah, Alicia. Which, by the way, Jason, I know you've been clamoring for Alicia and dad here has been agreeing with you. But I'm telling you, off air, he has been, I'm happy Alicia's not back. He does not like Alicia. And he was upset last night. Proven.

Okay, so she's one of the main characters of fear, no question. But it's been proven that when she shows up, a lot of other characters go away because they've got some budget restraints. we know that. I mean, we know that only so many people show up per episode you know, because of budget restraints.

That's the only thing it can be. So, you know, if she's going to, if her showing up means some other characters are, you know,

go away. Truck twins. There's your budget. Get rid of them. Give it all over to Alicia. Okay. All right. You down with that.

All right. Okay. all right you know no problem and I was already gone you know what you do you roll Wendell down through those walkers

and one of those nuke walkers sits on his lap and he rolls another 50 yards and explodes and kills all the walkers outside of the tower I'm okay with that good

no problem I mean well I mean his sister will be running after him going no which he'll get there right at the time of the explosion my brother Yeah, flame, the end.

All right, thanks for listening. Let's get this thing out of here. I'm going to have to, if I can't make it the whole week, I may have to sneak in the World Beyond final episode sometime this week, but talking Walking Dead will be back next week as well to recap the mid-season finale of fear and the final episode of World Beyond. And as, what's his face, Hardwick said, we'll be able to talk about Jadis's interview and will the special guest from the Walking Dead universe that is promoted to blow our mind with the big announcement.

So let's hope that is true. If you are listening to this and you're not a subscriber to chewing the fat, what are you doing with your life? My gosh, subscribe. It's free and available right now wherever you get your podcast. Jason Butrell, Maximus Fisher, and myself, Jeff Fisher. Thank you for listening to Talking Walking Dead.