Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S9 E12 | The Walking Dead

Episode Date: March 4, 2019

SEASON NINE EPISODE TWELVE of THE WALKING DEAD TITLED:    Guardians   AND THAT MAKES THIS TALKING WALKING DEAD   With Myself, Jeffy Fisher Jason Buttrill And Maximus Fisher   IMDB description… While one community struggles to ease tensions that threaten to divide from within, the true nature of another group comes into focus; a mission to rescue a friend has deadly consequences.   Join us as we discuss weekly, the here and now along with what the future may hold. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 9, episode 12 of the Walking Dead, titled Guardians. That makes this Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it, Talking Walking Dead with myself, Jason Buttrill and Maximus Fisher, and the IMDB description while one community struggles to ease tensions that threaten to divide from within the true nature of another group comes into focus. A mission to rescue a friend has deadly consequences. Now, as I said in the open, the actual title of the show was Guardians. I don't know why they just didn't use my title.

All they do is call me Daryl, the dog, and the deaf chick. I like you're working on your writing skills, the alliteration technique. I see what you did there. Thank you. You're rubbing off a little. I know, finally. That title is quite exquisite. Exquisite.

So what did you think? So I liked everything except for one freaking part. 90% of this was awesome. 10% was dumb. I can't. Oh, my God. Can we take a guess on what that is? You probably know exactly what it is.

But in the spirit, I don't want to ruin the entire podcast. So let's talk about the 90% awesome. That we like that. Okay. So we'll start with Alpha and Beta and the Whispers and our God-awful Henry and Hank, I'm sorry. Hank. And Lydia and the whole Alpha world. I mean, we got a really good insight, at least pretty good insight into how they live and what they do.

and their cause, you know, their camp, how they, what they do. And it just seemed, I don't know. It seemed okay. I don't know that I've, I've almost had enough of them. That's surprising to me because I thought, yeah, I thought it was cool. You know what I mean? It was cool. I know, I know.

There's a couple of things that I don't buy about them. One, now that they know about these other communities, I don't understand why they don't, there's not like mass defection. Like, do you want to live out like in a camp? Well, they only know a hillop. Or do you want to go live in houses where there's like running water and all this stuff? Right. Well, it's almost like they, I get the impression that maybe these people who are part of the whispers

were the people that weren't satisfied with life as it was before. So why do they want to what appears to go back to the way it was before? They didn't like it then. They're not going to like it now, right? Maybe I just don't know enough about the group. I mean, I totally could see that about Alpha, like the change. she's like that but I don't know enough about everybody else. It seems like there's like a lot of people that she's taking advantage of or something

like that. Probably. And she's being able to sell them that she's the only one that can provide security. Oh, yeah, 100%. But like I don't know. Like if I'm like part of that, you would think whispers amongst the whispers, you see what I did there would start, you know, matriculating around the camp, but like, dude, they got like running water.

But she puts a stop to it, right? When they do that. Yeah. Because like you said, she's the one that, you know, overseas that. So all they know about is hilltop. They haven't, other than Lydia, everyone else only knows about hilltop. That's enough for me.

I'd be gone. Right. That's enough for me. Walls, houses. Walls, houses, or I have to lay down in dirt and cut a hog's guts out. Yeah. It was almost like, you know, witchcraft, and they're out in the woods. I mean, these are like the post-apocalyptic goth people. Right.

Right. It's like, we don't have hot topic. to shop at so we're going to cut zombie faces off and wear them. That scene with beta, probably making Lydia's new mask. Yeah, that was great. Yeah, that was brutal. There were little things like that. But I really thought this episode was cool.

The other thing that I don't buy on it is like the beta, alpha beta relationship. Like beta could just snap her like a twig. And I don't understand why. If that's like their code, why doesn't he just snap her like a twig and take over? Well, at least in the comics, Alpha, no, beta is extremely loyal to Alpha. Right, but again, we don't know why, though, right?

Do they explain that? I don't think they ever explain why he's loyal to her. He just is. Wow, that's a mistake because that's a huge question. Because why does he, she must have done something for him, like, or has holding something over him or something? I don't know. Because she opened up to him, I mean, during the show, she opens up to him about a time when the kid

wrapped herself up in, and dry cleaning plastic. And who would, just watch their kid try to almost die. Who wouldn't do that? It's in most of the handbooks. Yeah. Parenting one of the handbooks.

Oh, look, they're wrapped up in dry cleaner plastic. Let's watch them almost die. That dude's a massive, scary individual, though. Yes, he is. I know I love him. He's awesome. In real life, he's really cool. Opie from Sons of Anarchy.

Really cool, yeah. Yeah, he's dope. Yeah, he's got to be probably one of the scariest looking villains on this. He's really good. On the show. Negan was probably one of the of the most dangerous villains they've ever had.

And Negan still is. Still is. Yeah, still is because you just don't really know what he's up to. And we had the, you know, his, his governor was the most complex.

Sorry, go ahead. Yeah. I mean, he had the scene where, with Michone in, in the jail cell, you know,

trying to talk Michone into letting him be a little, a more part of Alexandria and be a part of, you know, the ruling class again. And, you know,

Mishon was having nothing to do with that. That was a good scene though. That was. And it was also, it also was shown, though, I think is a little misguided in her thinking because she thought that Negan, you know, goes out and finds out that the world has changed some and he can't handle it so he comes back with his tail between his leg. But really, he went out there and handled himself like he always did. He just realized that it was going to be way too much work to rebuild again, right?

Because, I mean, yeah, it's too far long. for him to rebuild what he had. But he already, I mean, it wasn't like he was frightened to be out there into the world. No, the world just changed and it's a new political structure. He's got to find a way to fit into it. Right. Not that he couldn't handle it. Right.

And I think Michaud is a little misguided there. And then there's her relationship with the council. Yeah, that was fascinating. It's fascinating that you knew that that was the way it was. I mean, she, the problem, see, that's my problem with Michoen, right, is that she, Rick's gone, died, and he, you know, she's, you know, we have the council in quotation marks, but she's, you know, just thinks that because she was, you know, laying down with Rick, that she's now the all good big guru.

Well, didn't Gabriel say you got, you became head of security because you were the best at it? So we give you the power to veto the council if it was a security concern, but now, everything is a security concern. Right. They're so setting her up to be, A, to leave the show. Oh, yes. And then B, to, like, show that there's a transition now where it's like, you know, they're not these like autocratic leaders like Negan, Rick, you know, the people that ruled,

you know, with all power. She's still hanging on to that. But they're showing a transition to the power to the people thing. They actually said that in the episode. Yeah. You know, so it's, yeah, it's more like councils and congresses or something like that. Well, we'll get a little bit of that back after we, you know, they're setting up the, the fair world. So everybody goes to the fair.

She gave in, Michaud was deadly against it. We still don't know why she was deadly against it, really. Right. I mean, she's using, we know that she's using security concerns as her fallback. But we don't understand, we don't know what happened still to make them, make her go against that. You need to know what happened in Alexandria. Yeah, we sure do. and that needs to happen soon

but we've got oh that they all got pregnant by aliens that you know give birth out the kidney something like that it probably is only Darrell and Michone because from what I know Norman Reed is said the only two who have those scars is Michone and Darrell

yeah okay well you know something we do know that something bad happened we just don't know what it was some kind of poisoning or something I'm guessing I don't know because something like that because that is right we're like a kidney would be. I'm still going on my theory of an Alexandria in Civil War.

I don't know because... But why that mark? Yeah. You know, right there. Lashings? I don't know. Like an X lash. I don't know. Maybe.

I don't either. I really don't know. It's really weird that they're letting that mystery go so long. It's going to be interesting to see what what they do to make that happen. And of course, we have the, you know, if we get back to the whispers and, you know, They've got Henry, you know, tied to a tree, and we're killing everybody else except for him. Hank.

Let me just kill him. Yeah, we had the two, we had the two Wispers Challenge Alpha. We've said, we've said, Daryl, Daryl goes in to save them with the deaf chick to save Hank. Are you kidding me? Let him go. Just go down with your head bowed to Carol and say, I'm sorry, I couldn't save him. Yeah. Sorry, Carol, I love you.

I'll do anything for you, but the kid snuck out at these days. But so we had the two whispers challenge. Alpha. Yeah, well, that's what, you know, that was the head cut off that with the chain from the That was an awesome scene. I'm sorry, but that was. Awesome scene, completely unbelievable and unrealistic, but it was still awesome. What do you mean unrealistic?

Yeah, strings, usually, you can't just, like, pull it back and completely decapitate somebody. It doesn't work that way. Jason, I don't know if you've been in the military like I have. You in the military. I would pay a thousand dollars on the spot. to see you in boot camp. I was, you know, during the island of Spice. The invasion of Grenada.

Yeah, it doesn't work that way. I was like, I was like, but look, but that's part of the show, right? I mean, that's our love of the show, right? I mean, there's so many, there's a number of things that have happened throughout the course of the show that is not real, but that's okay because in our world it is real, right? I mean. Sure. And of course, it made for a cool scene. Whatever.

It's because they wanted her to decapitate somebody, obviously. But like they obviously can't show the reality is it's a very it takes a long time and it's brutal. Right. So let's make it take half a second and just one. I want that string. Imagine some stuff I could do with that string. That's crazy. Yeah.

What were you saying before we did all this that why is she walking around her own camp with her mask on? Oh yeah. I mean that's I'm kind of tired of that too. The leaning on this slumped over dead walk. and I don't know. It's like they're trying to make it seem more creepy. Whatever. But I mean, whatever.

I'll give that a pass before I give the string a pass. And you did see, I thought that they would be better at. They started out with making it appear like they were better at security, right? Because Beta was, he's been tracking us. He's the only one that's been tracking us where they know all that. But then when Darrell attacks them to go get Hank and Lydia with him and the dog and the deaf chick, with Darrell the dog and the deaf chick, he attacks them using their own

weapons against them, the walkers, and they're not prepared. They weren't prepared. They didn't have anybody, you know, trying outpost, trying to protect their camp. It just seemed a little, they seemed unprepared for that. Yeah, I don't know.

And maybe they were, maybe they were, because they hadn't had to deal with something like that before. When that's what Alpha and Beta were talking about, actually. And they got Darrell's secret weapon, the dog. Yeah. Which I was digging, man. He, like, goes out and retrieves the arrows. He kind of sucks at it, but it's going to be...

Did you notice the part is when, when Daryl grabbed the arrow, the arrow broke? Yeah, that's why I mean when he sucks at it. It was like, it was still a cold train. And then Gerald just went, bad dog. Yeah, it's so good. And it's going to be a shame to see that dog die. Ah, it better than have. And he lasted longer than you expected.

Yes, he did. Yes, he did. He lasted longer than I expected. It's going to be ashamed of. to see that dog. You're still expecting the pike, right? Oh, yeah. I want that dog. I want him next to. Oh, no, I mean, I don't want him next to Jerry. How dare you? Oh, how dare you? That would be such a long. Wait, but when we have the fight at the, at the fair at the at the kingdom is going to be ugly. I said, we're going to lose some people. We're going to lose some people, so be prepared. And that might be where we lose Jerry. The fight, but we've got, what do we've got? We've got, we've got

one, two, choke point, scars, the calm before, and the storm left in the season. Wait, seriously? So one, two, three, four more shows left in the season. Wow. And so they're going to pick up some pace now.

Got to lay some groundwork. Dang. Right? I mean, we've got, we're, let's... I'm reading through these right now. Yeah. They don't give away too much on these. No, they do not. And that, that's, of course, they do not. Oh, the fair.

is in three episodes. Wow. Right. So we're building up. I mean, that's what we're building up to. And at the end of this episode, they were already packing up goods to go.

That's right. Okay. So I was wrong. The season finale is right after the fair. Yeah. Huh. Wow. So next episode is probably going to be

Daryl's capture. Right? Capture. Well, they fight this next episode. The sneak peek preview was they were going to, they knew that the whispers were coming after them so they were setting it up and Darrell even says

to Lydia who's their strongest. Beta would kill him first. Yeah. Which I thought was cool. And they're also in the sneak peek on the show that airs after. He sets up, like, he's up in a building. Daryl's up in top of this building and the whispers and

walkers are coming down a road, getting ready to, you know, attack. And Daryl kills a walker, shoots an air, in a walker that's in front of beta and beta sees it and then looks up and Darrell looks right down at beta like I'm right here bitch come get it yeah yeah pretty much because you can get some it's so good because how tall beta is it was so good oh yeah walking he sees the arrow and he sees where it came from and you see him look up like that and darrell's just like uh-huh yep right here I cannot wait for that fight yeah doesn't um I thought that I was reading through some synopsis from the comics and when they go to rescue Carl, doesn't a few, don't a few of them get captured?

I don't, from what I remember, no. I remember Rick went to talk to Alpha, but I don't think any of them got captured. Hmm. I don't, I don't know why, but I'm just assuming that Daryl's going to get caught on this. I don't know why, but I'm just assuming. You know what I think might happen? I honestly think because of how strong beta is and how much of a good fighter he is, at least in the comics, I think Daryl is going to get whooped next episode. Oh, yeah, I think you're right. And that's why, maybe that's why I'm thinking he gets captured. But I bet for some rate, my, I guess if I'm going to predict it, I think that Hank and Lydia

and Death Chick get away and they live to tell the tale. And then they're like, where's Daryl? And he got, last time we saw he was tussling with Beta or something like that. Right. But Beta like basically whoops him and takes him. This is where we lose dog, too. Possibly. Oh, gosh, you're right.

Possibly. In the fight. In the fight with Beda. And this could be brutal. Think what they'll do that dog. Yeah. Beda's going to step on his head or something in the fight. Oh, no.

Isn't that? Let's bring up some good news, shall we? Let's bring up some good news because we've got Father Gabriel and Sadiq. Sadieke and Rosita. And Rosita. Let's talk about some happy news. What the heck is this? Oh, NUG.

It was like they got together and dreamed up. There was this guy that podcasts every once in a while. Let's pick the one scenario that would piss him off the most. So we're going to have about 12 dudes all going after this one chick just because she's already been claimed by this podcaster guy. So we'll have these 12 dudes all in like a 12-way love triangle. Well, actually, Sadiq, well, from what I know, Sadiq doesn't actually have any romantic feelings towards Rosita. They just had like a one-night stand or something. Right.

between two guys. Well, not really. But now, but then they all walk in the house together for the threesome living together. Why? Why are we doing this? I watched, I think, the first five minutes of that other show and then the talk show. And they were, and Rosita was all. Yeah, like, King told me all about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All this stuff. And I'm like, so this was like a fully planned thing. Yeah. It sounds like, does it sound like it's her deal? I think, I think, I think Rosita made it sound. bigger than it was for her because she wanted to make it seem like she had more

involvement in it because when what's his face that plays father Gabriel talked about it he talked about uh uh cane talking about with him about some possibilities of things that could happen and then rosita made it sound like well she told me everything and we talked it was my idea and then but when you hear what she had to say it wasn't so I just kind of feel like she was just trying to make it bigger on her than it really was

So there's a line that is the show that we like and then soap opera. Yes, I know. This is one foot over the line towards soap opera. I sure is. So like, I mean. It sure is it when they, when they walk in and then you see a Dingleberry Eugene watches them all together with the gifts with the tear. That's definitely. Come on, dude.

Like watch the full on. This is going to snowball. Watch this. Like, Sadiq's going to be like. no I didn't want to say anything it's not actually not me it's my twin brother my evil twin brother he snuck in the camp

and I've been keeping this I didn't want to say anything shut up like seriously that's that's the level we're on now with this storyline I was honestly you have to admit that was somewhat yeah that was somewhat surprising when we already when we found out Gabriel kind of already knew at the point

we saw him and I thought we were going to get him like his reaction to like finding out but nope he already knew Yeah, you already knew. I don't care. I'm like, every time, like, so I did the awesome, I did the best thing ever. I, I've been waiting 30 minutes into it and, like, watching something else. So I'll start watching 8.30 because I'm central time.

That's when it's, like, halfway through the show. And then I'll start watching. So then I can, by the time I fast forwarded through all the commercials, I'm already, it's basically caught up right to the top of the hour. Right. To the end. Yeah. And that's the way to do it. Now, every, I'm going to continue that.

Every time they go to this storyline, I'm just going to. But I like the idea they added a special thing that I had. I don't know if they used it before or not, but it was a smart move. For the opening? No, no, although they added whispers to the open, which was cool. Did you notice that? They added whispers to the opening. You know, as they back up, they show the, at the very end, they show the, at the opening,

they show the two walkers. I'll show you that at the end of the podcast. Well, if you're, if you're joining us here on the podcast, here, look. See, there they are. That was dope. Thank you. Now I forgot what I was going to talk about. I forgot where I was headed with this stupid thing.

Something about adding something in, something. Oh, yeah, with the commercials, right, because now they came back with a little clip of the show and then said, well, Waukees'nville will be back in one minute, and they added an extra commercial. Oh, yeah. I noticed that last week. That was a smooth move.

They did that last week. That's what I was saying. That's something that they've added, which adds that extra minute, which is really cool. Because it makes you think, oh, we're back. Oh, no, we're not. But it's only a minute. Yeah. So, okay, I'll sit right here and watch it then.

I tell you, they're going to have to start. This is a completely different conversation, but they're going to have to figure some stuff out with ads on a lot of these shows. Well, because everything is. Everyone's fast forwarding. Everything is watching. Everything is being readjusted to that. It's going to cost a lot more money, but they're probably going to have to start, like, they're probably going to have to start hiring, let's say they would hire Norman Reed us to do a. a, I don't know, a commercial

for whatever ad would spot would, you know, air in that. I would love to take the live read in the middle of the show. It's before Alpha's ready to cut off the head. Stop. Let me tell you about Coca-Cola. I love... Just 60 seconds before we get back

to the show. I just want to tell you, I love Coca-Cola Zero, no sugar. I mean, it's one of my favorite things in the whole world. Coca-Cola is one of the best products. Start cutting the head off and be like... Does she finish off the Coca-Cola and throws away, oh, we're back to the show. That's fantastic.

Starts to cut out the headache. Ooh, yeah, that looks like a bad wound. You know, I always go with neosporin. You know, like, get up from the mud. Get up from the mud. It'd be beta. It'd be beta doing that. Like, it's like they all stop right there.

Beta just walks in front of Alpha. Jeez, that is, so we need some neo-sporan for this. No doubt. Totally great. Get up from the mud, tied. In the real world, we need time. I mean, that's good stuff. I'd watch that.

I would too. I wouldn't fast forward to that. Right. Right. Okay. And it'd be all in programming. Okay. Back to Gabriel and Eugene.

That's good stuff. So good. You're welcome, walking dead, by the way. Yeah, you're welcome. Back to Gabriel and Eugene. What did you think of that whole scene with Gabriel and Eugene in the barn? Stupid. Yeah, I mean, it was just a waste.

Not needed and stupid. Yeah, it was just a waste. You just think that because you had a giant crush on Rosita and then two episodes ago, you renounced your claim. So, true. But even if not, it would still not be needed. I'm with you. I'm with you.

It wouldn't be neat. It's totally inconsequential to the story. I'm with you. It makes no sense to have it there. Except the only reason that it makes any sense is that she were adding a new child to the realm. Um, uh, that, uh, that, uh, I don't spike. New child to the realm. As in a, there's a conspiracy theory that I heard started somewhere else that the children being born are part of the

cure to everything. Thank you. Definitely didn't originate here. That started where? Oh, I know here. Me. That's a fact. If you're building towards that. Yes, they are. But right now, maybe the kid dies, right? I don't know. Or maybe we finally kill Rosita off. Did you forget there's a good chance of her head being on a spike? Oh, yeah. Okay. So there it is. I mean, maybe she dies and she doesn't have the baby, right? Oh yeah, that's right. She's supposed to be one of the ones. They could change it, though. Right. Absolutely. Now that she's pregnant and she's part of the love. In the comics.

Okay, good. She was pregnant with Eugene's kid in the comics. They were together in the comics. Well, then her sleeping around with Sadiq and the preacher man, she deserves to be on that pike. She's the first head I want to see. Pike it up, baby. She deserves it. I might have a theory on this.

What do you think if the king and Carol are on the pipes? No way. Not Carol. No way. We never get rid of care. Carol is too strong. You get rid of Carol and I am dang near close. Yeah, the show is over then.

Because now you're talking about, now you're talking about Rick, Michone. What's your face? Well, Michelle's next season. What's your face? Maggie. Hiltop, Maggie. And now we've got, you've got, you're talking about getting rid of Carol?

No. Who would be left? Just Darrell, right? That's it. Yeah. Just Daryl. And Morgan. That's ridiculous.

No, and Morgan, technically. Technically and Morgan. Well, okay, but he's on to fear, right? Along with what's, he's onto fear, with Iron Face Boy. So, with Dwight. So now you actually are really trying to merge the shows, right? If they have to get rid of Carol, they will merge the shows. They'll have to.

But you bring up a scary point, though, because that's got to be getting close. Everyone's like, screw this. I know. Been doing this, and everyone's probably, like, I know Michone is her character is getting a ton of other stuff acting gigs. Maggie's getting a ton. Rick's not really, though, right? No, but he's already, he's stayed. He's already signed on, though.

He's signed on to the movies, yeah. Yeah, Andrew Lincoln said he would be taking a break from acting for a while. Right. Well, he's made so much money, and he's made enough money. He wanted to be with the children. He got tired of the travel. And like I said, that'll go for about a year. And the wife will say, don't you have a show to record or something?

Yeah. I mean, I love you. I love you being home and everything, but don't you have to be somewhere for like two months? I mean, that happens. We can all pretend that it doesn't, but it does. But he's already on with the deal with Dead and the movies, right? So he knows that he's the man for that.

He's Rick Grimes. So he just wanted to leave the show and relax a little bit. I haven't seen Carol on anything else, though. Have you? But it's been a while. It's been a long times I've seen her and stuff I saw her in something that long ago that was quite a while ago

and I went oh wow I haven't seen Melissa McBride in a lot of things I remember exactly what it was but see the young ones are starting to think that they're the ones that are we're here for now the young and upcomers the ones that came along like

Tara and Rosita and the Rosita is a little still like she came in in season five so okay but I'm just saying they all think that they're the ones that the people are here for now. Nope.

You can't build a story. Even if the background, the canon and all that stuff is so amazing, you can't rely on these like, you know, B-level actors to carry it. You've got to have strong personalities. Have to. Can you think of any strong? Who's the strongest? Are there any personalities that are strong enough to carry a show that are on right now?

Not the core people? Jeffrey Dean Morgan, probably. Jeffrey D. Morgan, yes. Daryl, I think. Darrell could do it now. Do you think he could? Not the way he's written. No, not the way he's written.

They'd have to change that significantly. Yeah, big time. It'd be cool. One thing I really want, I want an Egan flashback episode. I just want that so bad. Yeah, we're not going to get that now. I'd be okay with that. I would too, but we're not going to get that now.

No way. We're not going to get that now. I don't think they can afford to pay the guy. I really don't. That's probably why they're doing it the way they're doing it. You know what I mean? They probably were only able to say, hey, he was, I'm sure. he was demanding a crap ton of money

because of his background, which he deserves. And they were like, dude, we can only fit him in a three episodes. And then just a couple, you know, then like two scenes. Because otherwise, why don't you have him all over the place? Right. You would. You would have him in every other scene.

Well, he is in the cell for this long in the comics. He doesn't get out until like a little long after the fair. Okay. But that's what we talked about last week too, right? The difference between comics and television. Yeah, translating. They've got to, that's a hard line to cross over. Because you can hang out in prison cells in a comic book for a long, long time.

But on TV, well, he's going to speed that process up a little bit. But there's ways you can prolong that until it catches up. Like you said, a full-on flashback episode. But that would have been full-on Buku books. You have to pay him. Yeah, that's a fortune. That's how many, how long do you think it takes to film an episode? Like, a couple weeks?

No, I don't think it's a lot. long. But, I mean, it's a long time to pay an actor of his caliber. Yes. She can't afford it. Everybody else and Michone's, like I said, Michone's approaching that pay. Yeah, she is. And McBride and Daryl are there just because of their longevity. But they're not there as far as their powerhouse. You know, they're there because of longevity. Oh yeah. Probably, probably old contracts. Yeah, they were not the powerhouse that came on board. Right. They've become the powerhouse. That's disappointing. That sucks. I know. They are going to start relying on these, like, cheaper.

Do you think my theory would be correct? I hope it doesn't happen, but do you think Carol would be on a pike? I hope not. I don't think so. I'm expecting Ezekiel. I am. I'm okay. As bummed as that would be, that's okay, but not Carol.

Yeah, I don't think so. Why would you be okay with Ezekiel dying? Because he's the king. He's a character that came on afterward. He's great, and we love him, but he's not, you know, yeah, he's not core. I have a big issue with the core people dying. I don't have as big of an issue as even the people that are fun to watch. Yeah, they're great to be part of the show.

It would suck if Jerry died, but I want Jerry to die over Carol. Right. Absolutely. Absolutely. 100%. 100%. I wasn't around when this happened, so I would like your answer, Jason. What was your reaction to when Glenn got his head bashed in?

Oh, I love Gore, so I love the death. The death scene I thought was awesome. That turned a lot of people off, but I thought it was awesome. I did too. I'm with you on that. But I was very sad. Like I remember we were tech. I think we kind of started our texting chains around that point.

And I was like, there was tension the entire time. I was like, here it comes, here it comes. And then we were holding on that last second that maybe they're changing the script. I was like, come on. Who was going to go? Yeah, yeah. And I remember they danced around it too. Like he was like he was turning around like he was going to hit somebody else.

And I was like, maybe he's not going to. to do it, maybe not. Yes, that's exactly right. All right. All right. So we've got four or five episodes, right? One, two, three, four episodes left in season nine. And it's been a pretty good season so far.

It's been some moments that have been questionable. No doubt about it. But it's been enjoyable. And then after these, we don't know when fear is coming back. I don't have a date on that yet. They haven't called me. We do know that Game of Thrones, though, looking forward to that. Oh my gosh, I can't wait.

I can't either. I'm excited for Game of Thrones. And so we have four, but that's not what we're here for. We're here for Walking Dead and Talking Walking Dead, and that's why you're here. Yeah, because not everyone here watches Game of Thrones. That's not my problem. Yeah, it is. Oh, yeah, come to think of it is.

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