Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - S9 E15 | The Walking Dead

Episode Date: March 25, 2019

SEASON NINE EPISODE FIFTEEN of THE WALKING DEAD TITLED:  The Calm Before NOW WE HAVE ONE EPISODE LEFT IN SEASON NINE…   BUT FIRST LETS GET TO THIS WEEKS TALKING WALKING DEAD WELCOME Talking Walking Dead With Myself Jason Buttrill And Maximus Fisher   IMDB description The fair at the Kingdom is underway, with all four communities coming together in celebration for the first time in years, while some pacts are renewed, other deals will come at a much steeper price. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Season 9, episode 15 of the Walking Dead titled The Calm Before. Now we have one episode left in season nine. But first, let's get to this week's Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it. Talking Walking Dead with myself, Jason Butrell, Maximus Fisher. The IMDB description of the episode last night, The Fair at the Kingdom is underway with all four communities coming together in celebration for the first time in years.

While some packs are renewed, other deals, will come at a much steeper price. Now, it started out. This episode started out as an okay episode. You know, I mean, we started finding out it was pretty evident that they were setting up, you know, setting up the end because they were showboating Tara. You know, we had to find out how great Tara had been in the past

and her history. And she was, you know, in charge, one of the bosses and her little chat when they were signing the new deal with the kingdom. And then she was getting together before she was going out onto the search with the preacher man and Oceanside. And she was just this, you know, the strong leader. Of Hilltop. Yeah. But she was also, you know, an overall one of the strong leaders because she was, you know,

agreeable to open to changes and her ideas and new ideas and how what a great. great person she was. Ugh. Agonizing. I got to tell you that just the title of this, I like when I saw the title, I was like, okay, this is totally a filler episode. Right. You know, like, okay, it's one of those where, so I was already kind of, I was kind of annoyed. But when they started like doing the episode, I just thought it was done really well. And I never got that feeling the entire time, like that I was like, oh man, nothing's going to happen. I didn't care because it was like, it was just so well done. There was a lot of heart and a lot of the interactions. This episode was good. Jared. are you playing with Judith, you know, down on the ground?

Or Judith hitting Eugene in the dunk tank. Yeah, that was great. Little things like that. I was just the whole time, I was just, I was into it. It didn't matter that there wasn't crazy stuff going on. I was like perfectly fine with it. I was enjoying it. We'll get to the ending later.

Well, we'll get to the ending before the end. Wait, how can that be? So, and then, you know, look, we ended up with, they take off. And, you know, we have the king and the queen. And there's problems, right? We know that there's problems and they're going to have to go. out and show their strength to the whisperers. Well, at first, Carol was going to head out to look for Henry, but then Henry came with, you know,

Daryl, Michone, and Judith. And Lydia. Don't forget about Lydia. Yep. The reason this all is. And as a pause, no. Raise your hands if you like Lydia at all. Do you like her?

Do you think she's a worthy... Good question. I don't. I mean, they're really, I know that she's, you know, supposed to be this great actress or, you know, good actress and everything. But I don't know, I just feel like we could have had someone better. You sympathize with the character because of what she was brought up with and what she had to endure. I sympathize with her, but I don't think that they, maybe it's the actress playing her. Maybe I just don't.

That's what I mean. Yeah, I guess I'm just not really buying it too much. I think, so I love the concept, but maybe the character in the show isn't that great. I know it's a side. No, but I just, yeah, it just. She doesn't sell it to me as well. No, I get it. I agree. Okay, so, and then we had the king and the queen,

and I love the, I love the, I loved Carol signing Queen Carol. I love, I love the fact when, I love the fact that when Ezekiel signed the, the parchment, he signed King Ezekiel, but with his big signature, and he said, John Hancock, he'd your heart out. Yeah.

You know, in his speech at the, you know, speech to the open the fair and everything with the Jerry joke. And they're not calling that. We're not calling that anymore. It was just funny. It was just funny. The whole thing was done well.

Yeah, it was done well. They knew all the different little things to stick in there, whether it was like flashback callbacks to like earlier days, you know what I mean, or just whatever. They just really hit the heart really well. Yes, they did. And so then, you know, when they, when they turn around and they came back in, the one time, when the crowd, you know, they were going out to search, you know, do the whisperer setup. to show their strength with them.

But when the first wave came back with, you know, Lydia and Daryl and the deaf chick, how long? I mean, this has been years, right? And yet, the brother of the deaf chick starts crying because the deaf chick. Sister. Because she didn't come back. You just laughed. You didn't say anything.

I mean, that's the one thing that just irked me. Because at this point, in our lives, at this point, if you're living in this world, sis has left already a couple of times without saying goodbye. It's not brother and sister. They're both sisters. What do you mean? They're both girls. The siblings, they're both girls.

Huh? No, they are not. Yes, they are. Connie and Kelly. What? No. Yes. You're saying that dude is a chick?

Yes. That is not a girl. All right. We have to find that out right now. Get the Googles out. Is that true? Yes. Huh?

That cannot be true. We're shutting this thing down. If this is true. What? I thought they were, it was sister and brother, right? The deaf chick and the young kid. I totally thought it was a guy.

Yeah. That's a guy. No. No. Their sisters. Is there an act? Is, do we know the actor? The actress?

Yeah, it is an actress. Shut up. What did you hear this? I'm not joking. We are doomed at this point. Are you pulling this up? No, I am pulling this up. Well, we're waiting on that.

I'll look it up real quick. But the, let's talk a little bit about, we've talked a lot about how difficult it is to pull off between the comic book and the show because of the different characters and the different characters. and the different timelines and how it sets up different in the comic books. But the people who are the comic book expert, aka Maxim, that's the reason we have him here, has said that this was a mirror image, yes?

The one with Alpha and Daryl? Yes, that was pretty much a mirror image with Alpha and Rick. I mean, this episode was almost the comic books, the whole thing. Now there were obviously characters that were different. Refresh my memory. Why did they, why did Daryl and Carol and everyone leave to go out searching when they got caught? What was the, why did they leave?

Well, they wanted to go show their strength right to the whisperers and say, let them know. No, they had to go. No, they had to go. They were heading back to Hilltop to defend it if anything happened. Right, right. But I'm saying that they are doing that because they wanted to show their strength. They didn't want to wait for any other more time at the fair.

They wanted to be able to be there and go up against the whisperers. Okay, so it wasn't, so it wasn't like a, it wasn't big, I can't I'm just totally blanking on that part of the episode. So they just decided to leave. It wasn't like an actual thing that happened. They were just like out of it. No, they decided, right after the

whole parchment thing and right after they discussed the whispers, they decided, okay, we're going to send a small group. The hill that's what it was. Yeah, okay. Right after Michone's little meeting. Right. Yeah, yeah, okay. And the, that's why some of them went and then

Tara didn't. They were waiting because she was going later. She was going to go later. She wanted to be part of the opening of the opening of the fair. Speaking of something that I normally wouldn't like in the show, I thought they pulled off really well. Was that like that married couple? You know, the... Oh, Tammy

and Earl? Is that their names? The old couple? No, no, no. The younger couple. Oh, yeah. We only saw them for like five minutes yet it was a good thing. It was good. Yeah, it showed them like right, like I guess several years ago. Yes.

And it just kind of followed them through. I was like, that was done really well. Yeah, that was done great. And it got you to believe, I mean, that's where we ended up seeing her again, right? They set that, that set up alpha. Yeah. You know, taking her, which was, you know, taking her skin, which was great. That was so good.

Yeah, that was really good. Do you guys know, we got to find out who direct, like, because they have multiple different directors for each one, right? We looked it up a little bit earlier because we talked about how well we thought the directing was done. And Max looked it up earlier. And it was a name that I wasn't familiar with. Now, that doesn't mean that it's not a good, but it wasn't, it was a, you know, just a regular name. It wasn't someone that I was familiar with.

Keep him on the payroll. I believe it was a her. It was a her. Yeah. Yeah, this time it was a her that we know of. All right, we're going to. The actor who plays, I got this. The actor who plays Kelly or actress.

Angel theory, gender, female. Here, look. Oh, yeah. Let me see. Oh, my gosh. You're kidding me. No, I don't, what? No.

Give it to him. I want to apologize. I want to apologize because I honestly thought that was a guy. And I apologize because it's got to be my male chauvinist bias coming through. So I apologize. No, I'm still, even the actor, though. Actress, yes. No, but...

Actress, yes. Mid to late... No. No, it is not. I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it. Don't be pulling at Jeff Fisher. No, it is not. I mean, I'm not.

That is not the way it's happening. No, sorry. I'm still not buying it. That's a dude. So then we get the... We had some more of the good stuff, of course, in the episode. had the Carol and King kiss. So that means that we had to have a lesbian kiss, right? We had the Hank and Lydia kiss, but we had to have the, we had the Carol and King kiss.

That means we had to have the lesbian kiss with your two girls. Gotta. Gotta do that. That was an award winning kiss there too. But as they go off, when they finally run into, when Darrell and Carol and that crowd run into the whispers, that was a great scene because Darrell at the last minute, we got to get out here. we've been we've been leading me into a trap and I should have seen it we got to go yeah let's go

and you knew something was going to happen when uh that was not going to go out go well when he asked a death chick to uh look after his dog i love i loved i was like oh my gosh i couldn't even believe that he wasn't taking dog like why aren't you taking dog all of a sudden he takes him everywhere all of a sudden on this one trip he's not taking the dog will you watch dog what what i was like oh they're so screwed they are so which means they are not going to do anything bad to that dog. That dog will survive to be 102. I don't know. I think that

I think that I think this sets up dog dying. No. This sets up dog dying. Because he cared so much that he didn't take dog with him this time. But it sets up our tears for next

time with dog died. Well, okay. At least you have to admit that was a good scene when the whispers were surrounding them like like you know, Umico, Daryl, Carol, and Mishone. Three of them, other than Carol, knew about the whisper.

So they were ready to fight. But you could see the look on Carol's face like, what the... Yeah, that's true. What? And I love the beta with no one else had to die. That deal is done. Yeah. Of course, Darrell being like...

Yeah, the surprise on Darrell's face when he heard beta too was like, what? I killed you. I killed you. I threw you down an elevator shaft. Next time I want to make sure you're dead. You should be killed. Yeah, that's for sure. But then we find, and I love the whole idea of,

Darrell knew that at that point, though, that when they were surrounded, that Alpha wasn't going to kill him. You know, he knew that, because that's why he got a cocky, because if they wanted us dead, they would have killed us already. Yeah, so that's why he dropped his knives.

So it's about around now in the timeline when I'm getting kind of confused on when things are happening. Because I was like, This is going on at the exact same time. Right, because we've got Alpha face talking to these guys. Yeah. Right? And then at some point during that timeline, she's back at the kingdom playing the Debbie or Sally

or whatever her name was, right? Blonde hair. Yeah. Debbie, right? You could call me Debbie. Of course, we know the hair. She was wearing. That was actually chilling, man.

It was. I mean, that was like you knew it was her. The first time you saw her, you weren't quite pot thinking it was her. and then you realize, holy crap, that is her. And then she's, you know, just kind of breezing through the crowd. And then when the king... She's wearing a scalp. When the king comes up on her, man, I mean, and the...

You call me Debbie. Yeah. That was. Oh, man, that was so good. And the idea that the king is walking her, you know, it's going to be a cold, long winter, a hard winter. And takes her for a walk. It was tremendous. and she shows up.

And you knew something bad was going to happen when she showed up at the movie theater, right? Lydia. Lydia is waiting for Hank, and Hank doesn't show. Can we just call him Henry for this time just because we know? We know what?

We know what? That he ends up not on the show anymore. The end of the show was tremendous. I did not see. That was ramping up with them getting cast. captured and then you could tell that like, because he kept on like talking about like, he kept on like Daryl kept on or Alpha kept alluding to Daryl

that something crazy had just happened. And I'm like, whoa, like this is not how Walking Dead usually works. It does not ramp up like this like an episode before the season finale. So I'm like, what is happening right now? One thing, before we do this, before we get to the ending, of course we have the herd that Alpha showed Daryl. that was oh yeah well that's that's the elf is heard i'm surprised huge her right from what i know that is actually the biggest herd we have probably ever seen on the walking

dead well and that's what that's why i if we're going to pretend that it's real life for a second just pretend for it's real life for a second we had the we had the giant herd that we used right to member the Alexandria herd that we guided right to the sanctuary yeah right that we found that was in another valley, right, blocked by the semi-trailers, and we began to use them. Now, we had that herd. We had the giant herd that was from the prison that, they showed us at that one point that we never went back to that episode where they didn't want to go. They were looking down this.

And like a rock quarry or something. It was some kind of prison or whatever. But then, so then now Alpha has this giant herd in another valley. somewhere. I find it surprising that even Daryl didn't, had never seen them before. Nobody had seen this before. I mean, they're loud, they're noisy, they're down in this valley. It's just, I mean, I know that, you know, I know Virginia is big. I got it. But it ain't that big. And of course, well, of course, there's the fact that Alpha has her whispers in there as well, guiding them, keeping them in that quarry. Talk about the suck job. I know.

Like, I know. I know. Do I have heard like mingling? duty. Herd mingling duty today. Oh, come on. I'll rochambo you. Come on. Paper rock scissors.

The guy that stood there looking at her crying just came back from her duty. Like, you're crying. I just got back from freaking herd duty. I did like that part. Like when Alpha, you know, fingers him over to come here when she's, when he's standing there looking at her crying. I thought, don't go over there. What are you doing?

Just keep walking the other way. What are you doing? You saw her cry. What do you? thinks about to happen. You just come over like you think you're gonna, she thinks she's gonna confide in you, heard rober,

no. I knew exactly when you, when I knew exactly what was gonna happen. When he showed up and you saw the single tier, I was like, oh, that dude's dead. He's so dead.

Again, like that was another shot for shot from the comics. Yeah. That one was great. And it also shows the, the relationship between alpha and beta. Yeah, because beta came up and she was crying and beta set up,

you know, the Lydia thing and then was like, oh, you're gonna cry. I'll walk away. I'll leave you. we're good. And so then the guy that's the other guy, the herd, the herd, is that what we're

nicknaged? The guy that had a herd duty came up and started staring at her like maybe, I mean, you should have already know. I know that we had to get a kill in and I get it. It was fun to watch. But realistically, if you just got back from herd duty and you saw your boss crying, would you stand there and stare? Or would you go, do I'm not looking at her?

Yeah. You will walk the other way. I don't get cleaned up. I just got back from her duty. And then she just pulls up her finger and goes, come here. Right. And so she's, you know, do you think you just got back from her duty? And she's going to say, hey, how did it go?

When would you ever in this group walk up and just stand 10 feet away from Al-alpha? And stare at her. And stare at her. Are you crying? Are you crying? I mean, I guess that's what happens after her duty. You're a little dazed. He was that jacked.

out for my herd duty. You still have to admit. That's how I look when I come in after work, I guess. Okay, so I totally get that. Yes. I walk into the kitchen stairs. My wife with that same look. I just come back from her duty.

I mean, work. Thank you. As a writer for Glenn Beck. So then we get to Alpha telling Daryl, look, I didn't kill you because I want you to know you people. to know that this is our territory, right? This marks our territory west and east or north and south, whatever she said her territory lines were.

And we marked our borders to north. And that's, you know, you're not going to cross over anymore. And, you know, we'll leave you be, but only if you don't cross over anymore. And, you know, trying to lay down some rules on that way. I know. I thought the same thing like, yeah, okay. which is what happened in the comics I mean, come on

like seriously like you you want to threaten these people Uh, they don't She doesn't know their capabilities What they've been through yet Did you hear what she said though? She said if one of you crosses our borders again We will unleash the herd on your communities

Yeah so if you break the rules This is exactly how we'll respond Right I was like why are you telling them and like Now Daryl knows exactly where this place is He can easily go deal with it if he wanted to I don't know I just thought it was like weird Like, why are you calling her shot?

Hopefully, Darrell will find, I don't know, a jet airplane with a couple of bombs. He can fly over the herd bomb. There's a helicopter out there somewhere. Somewhere, I know, right? And then, of course, she tells them, we've marked our borders to the north. You will see it when you leave. And then he's like, what does that mean? You will see it when you leave.

Okay, so, of course, we knew exactly what she's setting up. I did not think they were going to get to it in this episode. I did neither. I was like, no freaking way. I didn't either. Will they show it? That's not how this show works. I think they were going to show the pikes.

No, first off, I didn't even know if they were going to show the faces. I remember I was predicting that they weren't going to show the faces. Like we'd see the backs their heads. Right. Even if we saw the, even if we saw the markers, we wouldn't see who it was. Right. Right. We'd wait.

You know, that would be the close to season nine. This episode was escalating so fast. I was like, what a show am I watching? It felt like back in the earlier days. I know. Holy crap. Because if you think about it, didn't season two end kind of soft because the second to last episode before the season was Shane's death. Okay.

And that makes sense. Maybe they're pulling that back out again. But as we looked at the heads on the sticks, baby, at the end of the series when they found the territory that was marked by Alpha, it was amazing. What the heck. We lost the people. Okay.

And didn't lose some. I know. I thought we were going to lose at least. I was, unfortunately, I was expecting Tammy. I was expecting her. Okay. So I was like, oh, man, her, but I was expecting it. But I was also probably expecting Rosita and Ezekiel.

They're fine. Yeah. So we ended up having 10 heads, 10 heads on the, on the pugs. We lost, and I'm surprised that we lost the highwaymen. We lost two of the highwaymen. Ozzie and Alec, I know. But I'm surprised that we lost the head guy because they brought him in as, you know, a pretty strong couple of episodes

which made you think that he was going to play a stronger, longer role. It's kind of cool really. I know. Oh, I grant you. I was happy with it. Like he went from total duchdom to kind of like this cool cowboy, highway cowboy. And so it looked like he was going to be around for a while. No. On the bike. We lost the DJ and the Frankie. They were around.

Frankie was one of Negan's ex-wives, right, the Redhead. That's where she came from. and DJ had been around one of Negan's guys too, had been around for a while. He's been around. He was in a number of episodes. I looked last night, he was in like 14 episodes,

but he's one of those guys that, you know, part of the crowd guys. You know, he was one of Negan's second in commands, those kind of guys, you know, that you were in the episodes,

but you never really paid that much attention to. And then we lost the two kids, the Rodney and the Addy, the girl and the guy that were the duches to Lydia. Yeah. Which was, you know,

which was nice. and then we got Tammy, right? Brett Butler with the Grace Under Fireman, Tammy Rosen. She was surprised. She's a pretty big name to go. We got... Now we're in the big ones. Now we got the three to go.

Right. You got Hank. Henry was at the end. Crazy. Which was crazy. Henry was the last one we saw. An entire storyline. Right.

That they're just abandoning. Henry's gone. I thought he was safe. It was fascinating watching Daryl not let Carol see who it was. Yeah. And we saw the flashback. of the same, almost the same scene when Carol, Los Sophia.

Las Sophia in the barn, almost the same scene. Oh, that's right. Of Daryl holding her back from that. And then we first saw Enid. Then we saw, I'll get to Edid. I know you're all psyched up for Enid, but we'll go there. We'll go to Edith. We got Edid up on the pike.

Really surprising, right, that Edith that we lost into because of her, I have a theory on that. Her traitordom. I have a theory on that. So I think that she was just about to get found out. This will be a flashback later. And then she was like, you know what? And then just kind of said, screw it and jumped on the pike herself.

The rest of her body just kind of like fell off later and was carried off by like walking or something. So like she just said screw it and just like suicided around that bike. I can't be a traitor anymore. But she. The alpha will say we killed nine of you. What? There were 10. Oh, either did it herself.

Yeah, she was like, look at a flashback and someone's about to like reveal who she was. And she did like, hey, what's all that over there? And then just totally dove on that. Took her for the team. I'm surprised they gave you the little Edid flashback too. And they didn't give any mention of her being a traitor. So they pulled that out. And I know they did that just to just to, you know, get at me.

Because I've been such a big proponent of her being a traitor. And I know that Max thinks that I'm supposed to have some big apology. and read some letter that I miraculously said I would read. For what? His written apology of misleading the fans that, of him misleading the fans that... When was that disproven last night? That's what I said. That hasn't been disproven, just because she died?

But she died on the pike, but they never, any of the flashbacks that they did or anything, any word or written notes about Enid didn't say anything about that. we're going to reveal she was a traitor. They would have revealed it before she died. See, I don't know. I think I'm with Jason now. I like that. I like that.

The flashback. But wait, we saw, no way time out. How would she jump? She was in the group that alpha collected to get chopped off. So she wouldn't. Yes,

but let me say this to you. And I know Jason was, you know, joking around obviously about putting about her jumping on a plate. Even as a trader, you're not going to jump on a pipe. But what we will find out, though,

reason that Negan will be pissed because one of his main people one of his main reporters got killed, yeah. That's right. I don't have to stop. I'm not apologizing for Jack yet. And I know you people on Twitter were all saying to me, oh, I guess that means it takes away from me to be in the traitor.

No, it doesn't. No, it is not. No, it is not. And we lost Tara. We lost Tara, which was a huge one. It sure was. Wow. Big time. And one of the more annoying characters, I think, on the show. I'm just going to I'm saying this. Think of this. Terror's been on the show since season four.

Yeah, and I'm happy. I mean, I'm not sad to see her go at all. No. She was, I know that they, she was a big part of the show and they really pushed her on us big time, but I'm okay with her being gone. She got a lot. She, uh, she became a star on the show because they made her one, not because she worked out to be a fan favorite. I believe that. I don't believe that. I think it was opposite. Some people come on the show and they become the fan favorite because of who they, you know, who they are and the character that they portray. Jerry, for instance.

And some people get pushed on you because she was pushed on us in the mix, right? She was in the main crowd all the time. And they made her this star. It was like, why? She was all pro governor back in the day, right? Yeah. Yeah, she was on the governor's side. They even mentioned that.

Yeah, they did mention that yesterday, which was. was great when she was trying to be Miss Goody Goody with Edith. And the one was like, yeah, I remember I stuck up for you with the governor when you were standing behind him. I remember. Who said that? Michelle. Yeah, Michelle.

Okay. That's good stuff. And so, we lost a lot, right? So this next episode, the final episode of season nine, the storm. Aftermath of overwhelming loss, the community is brave for a ferocious blizzard. Yeah, they showed the sneak peek for next week. And winter has come. Winter is here.

Is that how they're marketing it? No. They're marketing the storm. But it is winter. They even made that joke. Even Chris Hardwick made that joke on the show that comes on after the show that comes on after. How funny. After I text them over the joke.

Wow. So that's like, wow, there's like, there's three weeks until Game of Thrones comes up. Yeah. One, two, three. Wow. And as a side note, as far as that goes, here in Dallas, there's the throne is in town. Oh, really? At AT&T, since the merger went down and they've got the throne.

So I think I'm going to go down and a couple shots to the old Jeff Fisher Radio on the throne. It's actually the actual one from the movie. Oh, that's dope. I think it's the actual one. If not, it's a replica, you know, a replica that travels the country. They had a crazy cool marketing campaign where they like had the throne and they just like, would put it somewhere and then take a picture. And it was real random, like in a forest or whatever, you didn't know where it was.

But if you were able to find it, then you got like a mystery prize. I think they're still doing it. Oh, they probably still are. It seemed like people were speculating there was going to be like premier tickets or something like that to the opening or something. That'd be great. Anyway, just cool. Yeah. But the, uh, but okay, back to dead.

I was, I'm guessing we all were not expecting Henry. Like no one was. No, I mean, it's like, it's like, they, like we thought, okay, he's going to take Carl's storyline. And what she did, to some extent. but now they just went just dumped it Yeah well good Get rid of them

All right so I'm looking forward to next week I'm the end of the storm We'll see We'll see what happens And we'll have We'll have exciting news It's on the show that aired after

The show And it doesn't air exactly after By the way they ran a show In between the middle Which is agonizing Gimple was on And he is Mr. You know Walking Dead

And he It was such a a douche last night. He was in some kind of bad mood. Really? At the end of the show, he was in a better, he seemed to be in a better mood and was a little bit joking around more. But at the beginning of the show, I was like, dude, why'd you even come on the show?

I mean, he was not answering questions. Yeah, I mean, nothing. He didn't have any way, you know, it was just, and even Hardwick was like, okay. I mean, Scott, you know, just give away zero. So he ended up doing a Glenn Beck. He ended up doing a tease of a tease Talking about yeah Well he talked about fear coming up

And there'll be something big happening in fear And that's what we're going to have a mention That's what we're going to have an announcement After when that happened So it was an announcement of an announcement For what? It was great I don't know of upcoming stuff

Of upcoming talking dead stuff Or walking dead stuff Gimple said that 2020 is going to be huge for dead things So that we might That might be the year We get one of the Rick Grimes movies I hope so.

I mean, they better. If they wait too much longer, I mean, you're going to have, like, you're not going to have to, you know, artificially make Rick Grimes look older or have gray hair because he's going to be legitimately like, like, if you're going to wait like two or three years, like, come on, that's what? No doubt. And they're going to lose momentum. Like, people are really like,

oh, you have to do it now. Yes. The momentum has to go. They have to do it. Right. All right. So we'll see you next week. Thanks for listening to Talking Walking Dead.

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