Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Season 9 Episode 1: "A New Beginning" - 10/8/18

Episode Date: October 8, 2018

Jeff Fisher Along with Jason Buttrill and Maximus Fisher  THIS IS ‘TALKING WALKING DEAD’ Feels good to be back as we recap and look ahead Good to have the real show and our show back. IMDB description… Rick and his group make a risky run into Washington, D.C. to search for artifacts they will need to build the civilization he and Carl envisioned. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Blaze Radio Network On Demand Season 9, episode 1, the season premiere. A new beginning. Jeff Fisher, along with Jason Butchrell and Maximus Fisher, and that means this. Thank God it's back. Talking, walking dead.

I know. I know. I am just as relieved as you are. It felt really good to have the actual show back. It did. It did. I enjoyed the heck out of it. Now, we can go through, and obviously we're all, you know, we'll have our, why did they do this? What are they thinking?

But overall, great episode. Excellent. Oh, yeah, it was an amazing episode. I totally echoed the two of you. First of all, I was trying to, like, say, am I enjoying this so much because it's back? And that's why I'm enjoying it? I know. Or is it actually really good?

Or isn't a good episode. But it was good. And it was like, it wasn't what I was expecting. expecting as far as like the relationship between Maggie, Darrell and Rick, I thought that was going to be completely different. Like I was still not exactly sure what it is. Like are they just playing nice still like waiting for their time to pounce? Kind of like what Maggie was saying.

Yeah, it kind of feels that way. I mean, I found myself listening to Maggie when she was talking to Rick agreeing with her. I mean, Max and I were watching it and I'm like, the hell was wrong with me. I'm agreeing with Maggie. Yeah, yeah. Because I felt like she was right all along. You know, Rick, Rick put his people in charge, but, you know, he's still Rick.

Rick Grimes is here. Yeah. He's still Rick. You know, so he can't relinquish that control. I kind of think that this is just my personal theory on it. I kind of think that they overstepped with that final scene of the finale where there was all sinister and the dark lighting and, you know, Daryl walks out of the shadows. We're going to get, we're going to bite our time and get him. I don't, you know, I just think, I think they overstepped with that.

I think a lot of people were like, what the heck was that scene? Right. Because it doesn't feel like that's the way it, the case right now. No, and no, it doesn't. And it doesn't feel like that should have been the case at the end of that. No, of course it shouldn't have. Right. But then even, even like, Norman Redis was like, there was an interview that he did recently

where they were asking him kind of about this. And Norman Redis was saying, look, like, Daryl and Rick, their relationship is like two brothers. It's like two brothers. He's like, they're not like, they don't want to kill each other. They have fights every once in a while. But when the fights over, they're like, okay, now we're back to brothers. Right. And look, you saw that when Daryl was telling him he didn't want to be at the sanctuary anymore.

Yeah. He talked to him and was saying, I mean, they were up front, straight out. Daryl's not pulling any punches. He's telling Rick the way it is. And he was even... In the end, then it's worked out. Yeah. And even you could see when Daryl told Rick that that he wanted to go back.

back to Hilltop with Maggie, not Rick. Right. Right. Which was weird. Well, but they both want Negan dead. They just, they don't want to go to, they don't want to be in Alexandria with Negan. Exactly. Yeah. But that isn't, but I totally get that.

I get why they're uncomfortable with it. But you don't get this like sense, you get the sense. They're letting Rick know that they're not happy about it. Right. So it's not a secret, which is, which was what they were alluding it was going to be before. Yes. There was going to be some coup behind Rick's back. That's not what's.

happening. No. That's not what's happening at all. That scene in the beginning, though, where we see Judith and Michone doing the paintings and then Rick coming out. That was an okay scene, I have to admit. Well, yeah, I know. I know we've got the time jump and it's been what 18 months or two years since the end. Yeah, about a year and a half to two years. It's, you know, the whole family thing. It's like what they, it's like they had to do that. Yeah, it's like, yeah, I get what you're saying, Max. It was, it was a nice sweet scene. I just like, for me, what was a lot more interesting was how they were showing how they've linked the different communities. Oh yeah, that was good.

And now they have like a system, you know, where everyone kind of like patrols and then hands it off to the next guy. We got a good shot to Jerry. We got Jerry. We got Jerry with Darrell right past him. Oh, good. To the meantime point, dude. See you on the flip.

I love the shout of him to at the end, too, when he's leaving with the king. And he's got that big ass on his back. It's like, bro, you don't have to use that. Come on, dude. So good. So good. But yeah, but then the coordination with that and then like the coordination of them going to D.C. I didn't know that.

I saw the, I saw the like kind of extended preview like last week of that scene. And it didn't dawn on me that they were in Washington, D.C. That was the Capitol. That was cool. That was cool. And it played into. You got to see some cool walkers. Yes, overall.

I mean, the walkers were great. Well, it played into their, you know, in Machia. Jones belief as they show her looking at, you know, some of the founding fathers' documents and the struggle with the civil war and, and that's why she came up, you know, that's what helped her come up with the idea of the charter, right? We need to, we need to come together and make some rules. Yeah. It's a new world and we've been through this battle, but we need to make some rules. And we saw that, you know, rules need to be made and are taking the bull by the horns with Maggie, you know, taking care of Gregory. Thank God.

We'll get back to that soon You should have killed him years ago But then let's see Was that the Smithsonian that they're in? No, I think it was... I think it was just a capital. I think it was the Museum of Natural History In D.C.

I could be wrong. Yeah, no, I think you're right. So that was dope. That was really cool. And the cool thing too, that whole scene with them walking around and stuff and we got a little mention of Merle when Daryl was talking to that girl from Ocean

side. Yeah, with his brother. I used to fight with my brother. So, so, her name is, is slipping me. What's, what's home girl's name? That's all hot that, that's, uh, used to have a real bad haircut, the trash people. Oh yeah, yeah. Jadis. Jadis. Yes. Or Ann now. So what, that's what she's going by? Ann. So what did she say was, how did she know where that stash of seeds was? She said when she was teaching, she knew, she knew where the seeds were. Right. That was part of her, whatever, whatever classes she was teaching some professor. I still, she makes her some professor. Her backstory is, we don't know nothing about it and I really want to know what it is.

And she knew that that was there at the National History, which means that she has some kind of connections with the government, which gets us back to the helicopter. Yeah. And which the helicopter featured very prominently in the new intro. Yeah, it is. Had the little helicopter roll going around? I know. And then, I mean, they're struggling to find gasoline and we've still got helicopters flying. Right.

I mean, I mean, it shows you there's other people that are a lot more well off than our group. Right. Right. And then there was them bringing down the wagon. Yeah, that was all cool, them getting out of there. And of course, you know, we had to actually, the glass had to break on the floor. Worst foreshadowing ever, but it was still cool. You knew it.

Yeah. There was no way you were getting out of that. It was just a guess on who was going to fall down. It was just a guess on who was going to fall down, which it turned out to be Ezekiel. And we saved him, which was good. I mean, they played, that was a great rescue scene. You know, you thought the rope was going to break. and the way Walking Dead is with their characters,

I mean, it very well could have broken. Yeah, but like 90% of their promotion for this season was, oh, the king and Carol are in this great relationship. So the whole time I'm like, guys, there's nothing going to happen to it. We still could have spent the year with Carol having, you know, morning flashback. Oh, man, please God, no. But that was a pretty good seed with Carol and King on the horses and that he pulls out the ring. Yeah, well, I mean, look, and then Carol got lucky, right, with overhearing Daryl and Rick talk,

so she was like, I can stay here. She's not all about that at all. I can pretend like I'm doing this for Daryl, but I can stay here and get the hell away from the king. That was actually a really good scene with Daryl and Carol on the porch of the sanctuary. Yes, it was, and it brought back, you know, it shows that they're still, you know, even Daryl said with Rick, when he wanted to talking about getting out of the sanctuary, that when it's us, we're all broken up now.

When it's us, that's the deal. We can do anything. That was weird about how, because that's true. I didn't think about, he goes, this is a factory.

Nothing grows here. It's a friggin factory. And I was like, really, the only reason it was surviving me is because they were taking stuff from other people. Right.

So now you basically just have a bunch of welfare receiving people. Exactly. Like, they can't contribute. The only thing they know how to do is go out and raise communities and steal. So now they're... Well, the soldiers do. I get what Carol was saying. Like, all we're doing is giving them stuff and not receiving anything.

Maggie. Who would I say? I say Carol. But that's fine. Yeah, Maggie. They're not receiving. Yeah, we're just giving them their crap. I mean, they just, I mean, even, I mean, yeah, there was that once, like, they,

in the sneak peek for next episode, they said, like, the sanctuary is the only one that doesn't have weapons, and then Brick was said, well, we disarmed them for a reason. Right. Well, look, the, it's funny, I didn't really look at it as the welfare recipients until you said that. That's exactly what they are. Yeah. They're the walking dead welfare recipients. Exactly.

And so the argument is, do we keep them or do we cut them lose? And now the argument is, well, let's put them to work for us. I mean, why do you, like, so we learn from Negan that people are a resource. Why do you even keep the sanctuary open? Just like add them to the communities. Right. Like split them up. Right.

I mean, really, that's awful. Like, I would keep that as a defensive position, not a community. Well, their argument is that he didn't want to kill them, but we're leaving them in the prison, really is what we're doing. Well, there were some. Of course, there were the innocence within there, which we see a lot of. Oh, I don't care about them. They're still part of them. You notice how...

I think Hollywood just kind of trolled themselves. They're teaching conservative principles. but they didn't mean to. That's true. They were showing the evils of getting people addicted to welfare. Yeah. You're exactly right.

And when you're beholden on a, I don't know, a government to give you things for your survival and you don't teach a person how to fish, you just get him fish, or you don't teach them how to farm, you just give them food?

Well, they were trying to farm. This is what happens to you. That's so right. Well, they were trying to farm. 100%. Well, you did notice they were trying to farm. It was just they couldn't because they were in a factory.

The only thing that grew was like dead corn, so they used that as for fuel. Yeah, they're idiots because they've never done that before, so now they're getting handouts nonstop, so they can't get it done. We found that out from Maggie, right? She just keeps giving and giving and giving them, and she's getting nothing back from them. And they're using all, they're not even giving her enough corn for fuel. And you can tell their nature is still to go out and pillage. Absolutely.

There's Homeboy with the long hair and it's kind of jacked. Oh, you know that guy's going to be more prominent going forward. Max, is that guy in the, do you see any correlation between that? guy and somebody in the comics? No, I really didn't. You know what I'm talking about? I know the one. He was the guy that they said, we can't paint over it because we usually asked me.

Yeah, the one where. We ran out of paint. Yeah. Figure it out. Yeah, that's great. But we saw more, we saw more of Arat, the girl with the short hair. Yeah. One of Niggins lieutenants.

Mm-hmm. I think the guy that's doing that is that guy with the long hair. He was also the guy that was helping to chain or tie up the walker on that scare. I'm telling you, he's in a he's going to be somebody. He's actually a larger actor. I've seen him in some other stuff before. Well, speaking of that, as we take aside, if we want to talk about larger actors

in Walking Dead. My gosh, the father and mother of the father and mother of the kid that got killed Ken? Yes. John Finn, who is a big time actor, seen him. He's been in all kinds of shows. I loved him

in a cold case. That show was on for five or six years, maybe more. He's been in NCIS. He's been in all kinds of shows. And then the wife is Brett Butler. Brett Butler. I mean, she's had her own sitcom.

She's had, she's been, I mean, she was a pretty big star for a while. You know what I mean? And so they're all, everybody's grabbing on to the Walking Dead. Oh, sure, I'll be a. I would. It's like a Star Wars movie at this point. I know. Everyone's a guest appearance.

I know. And plus the final season with the main actor. Hello, Walking Dead. My name is Jeff Fisher. And then, let's see, what else do he got? And the kid, the kid got killed to the beginning because he got one, he got bitten the arm, which I think he got bitten an artery.

And then a horse kicked him. And the horse kicked him. No way he lives through all that, right? Because they were just cut, I'm surprised he just didn't cut his hand off, his arm off. That's what they were starting to do, I thought, wouldn't it? They were starting to do that. Rick just had his axe.

Cut that thing off. Yeah. What are doing? Yeah. had to worry about those walkers coming, but he went and took care of the walkers while they were trying to wait on him, but he should have just come back and cut the arm off. But he was already dead. And the parents were all, you know, drunk and Gregory's trying to, you know, backstab.

Here's the thing. During the funeral, you were thinking, some people, I guess, maybe in the back of your mind, you were thinking maybe Gregory's changed a little, just like during the funeral because he seemed sincere. And then when the husband is bringing his wife back to the bed when she's drunk, then he turns around, see Gregory, like,

standing in the doorway saying, I could help. And you see the shadow. You're like, oh, nope, he's, he's still him.

Yeah. That was a great, a great shot. Yes, Gregory in the doorway with the, with the whiskey. And I really didn't,

I mean, I'm all about, uh, him dying. Yeah. I'm all about it. I really, if I'm Maggie,

I really pissed at Michone for hollering out at the end there just because the kids and no, don't. That Daryl was like, I'm hitting the horse. Yeah, he didn't. I don't know.

That was kind of brutal. I don't know. Them hanging? We don't kill people for attempted murder. You know what I mean? Like that's something we don't do today. Well, not only was an attempted murder, though. I mean, it was a coup to the community.

That and he's tried a lot of things before. How many chances has Gregory got? Right, but I don't know. Oh, my God. It shows a shift. It shows a darker shift, you know, that she's on. Yeah, one thing, too, is that's almost exactly what happened in the comics too.

Like a little difference on trying Assassinator's Shin where Gregory tried to poison Maggie's wine, but either way. Was the hanging scene straight out of the comics? Hanging scenes straight out of the comics. That's cool. From the barn and everything. Yeah, and Maggie was trying to make a point, right?

I don't, Maggie was, which is where we get back to making some rules, right? Because she, obviously, you're right. I know that we don't do that today. Perhaps we should. Maybe we don't do that today. But she was also making a point of these are kind of, you know, the rules. You can come back to me and say, okay, we shouldn't kill somebody for attempted murder,

but we can't be having people trying to kill other people. So you've got to set a standard of this is what's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, plus, this Gregory. She didn't kill them a long time. Yeah, screw. And we see, and we see Herschel.

Oh, sad news on him too, passing away. Oh, I know. I didn't even know that. And they did the final, like, through the picture up. I was like, oh, man. When did this happen? Saturday. Really?

Yeah, he died Saturday. Oh, my gosh. They had just got done announcing. I was reading a story where they just got announcing. He and a couple other older characters were going to come back this year in some form. They announced it. Flashback. Yeah, some form, especially because Maggie's got the baby.

I'm sure she'll be talking about grandpa or whatever but the and then it was almost it was almost like they got done with that Comic Con chat and they got the news that he had passed away. He'd been dealing with leukemia. He's awful. He's been struggling with that for a while.

By Herschel I mean she actually named her baby Herschel and we actually see the baby. Yeah, yeah, she was finally you know she's finally pregnant and the time jump was big because the kid's 18. No, you could tell it wasn't It took 12 years to be born, but to become a toddler almost walking around.

A kid that size didn't come out of the belly she had. That's all I'm saying. Well, she went early in her pregnancy. Sucker was huge. That's what I'm saying. A kid was ready to play in the NFL. Maggie didn't have a stomach. If it was a linebacker or?

Let's see. The conversation between Rick and Maggie was pretty good. I thought that was great. I thought that sense, and you're right with the darker tone. I mean, that's Maggie saying, dude, I'm not playing anymore. Yeah. People are trying to kill me. You know, I'm taking over.

No, I'm not doing this. I don't, do we, has it confirmed that he only has four episodes? Is that confirmed or is that rumor? No, that's true. I was, I mean, the only thing that I, that's one of the things that I really didn't like about the episode. because I'm, look, I'm one that spoilers don't affect me. If I know something is going to happen, okay, that's fine. I could still get into the show and enjoy it, even if I know something is going to happen.

It bug me like the plague. But I, gosh darn it, I don't want him to go. Yep. I mean, that's Rick Rimes, man. And I get it. I mean, we've followed him from the beginning. That's been the whole point of the Walking Dead. I mean, for me, it was the father-son duo.

Yes. You know, it was he and Carl and, like, them trying to survive. Like, that's what drew me into it. And when we lost Carl, I was like, well, then that's, I guess I'm still sticking around because of the nostalgia of Carl, but now I'm following Rick. But now it's like, the premise of the show is changing. Oh, yeah. So I don't know. They have to, and we've talked this through before, but they have to do something major if I'm going to continue to watch after this season.

like something major. You've got to have a major personality driving this. And for me, the only way that can happen is Negan, but I don't see how Negan can reconcile with everybody else. I just don't know how they'd pull that off. I don't know. He never really did in the comics either, right? He just goes off.

He reconciled with Rick. He did. He reconciled with Rick, and they had an understanding of each other, and they kind of forgave each other. But that was really it. What about Maggie and the rest of them? Well, the memory.

He actually had a confrontation with Maggie after he walked off, and she was planning on killing him, but she didn't. And that was kind of the point of that scene in the comics, where she finally was like, okay, I'm over you now. You could live. I would love to see Jeffrey D. Morgan somehow take the show over. I would love it. But this is Hollywood we're talking about.

I know. They were just, they took a hit from killing off. their female lead on fear. They, they, we're releasing a lot of promo pictures saying the women take over or something like,

or women begin to take over something like that. That's not quote word for word, but it's something like that. So I think, this is just personal, knowing the climate now, I think that they're probably

going to have Carol and Michone. Well, Carol even made reference to that during the show, right? What she said? She said something about, on the talking on the show. Oh, that's right. That was on talking.

on the show that follows Walking Dead that must not be named. That's really bad. That's so horrible. I watch it. Who was on there? That was Nick Otero. What is what she say, though? That it was the girls. No, it was like something

women leadership. That was the line. So what's happening. Let's see, let's see what happened. Who was on there? 100%. Let's see. Nicotero, the new showrunner, Angela Kang. Jeffrey Dean Morgan, the girl plays Carol,

and Norman Redis. Yeah, it was a fun show. They brought out the guns for the first talking guy. And there you go. See, I said it, just for you. And it was good. It was good. And it was funny because they said they didn't, Jeffrey Dean Morgan.

Negan only got reference in the open. He wasn't in the show. But they said you could, like, even though they don't say his name, you know who they're talking about. Well, of course. But they, you know, when they said, let's talk about why you did the reasoning for not putting Niga to the first show, Jeffrey D. Morgan's like, yeah, let's talk about that. And they probably just pulled out their wallets. Like, well, if you would agree to come on for a little bit cheaper, we probably would have.

Now, the new showrunner was pretty, it was kind of fascinating to watch her. She did a great job in saying how great everyone's banned and what a wonderful thing it is. But between the lines, it's like, thank God I got rid of Gimple. I've been wanting to do the direction of some of this I've been doing all this time behind the scenes and I couldn't do it because Gimple wouldn't let me and he's gone. And what King was saying that? No, yeah, the lady. Yeah. One thing I actually noticed...

She obviously didn't say that, but I mean, I read between the lines. I know that's what she meant. Yeah. A few things, actually. I was reading some stuff and rumors, and one thing is they were actually from talking about the new theme, which the new intro was great. I love that. Yeah, I love the new theme.

And for those of you that are fans of this show, Talking Walking Dead, you'll notice that I used that new open as part of our new... cover page for the show as well. So I loved it. I thought it was great. Yeah, that was cool. But when they were changing it, I read that they were thinking about actually changing the music too.

And that would be a big no-no. I think so, too. It's like, you don't change the theme song to Star Wars. We've already changed so much of the show. I mean, they've made such a big deal about the time jump and the changes and we're waiting for Rick to die and we've killed

off some of the main characters that people love. and then you're going to change the music. Obviously, they made the right choice. Is this theme song been the same since season one? Yes. As far as I know, yeah. So it's like, seriously, you're off with a change of theme song and everything, you're signaling that you want a brand new show, basically.

It's no longer what it was. I mean, that's like, they decided, they ultimately did decide to keep the theme. Yeah, I mean, they pretty much had to. That's like, you know, the Law and Order theme. No. Those shows, those are, those are key mark moments. You know shows. You don't change them.

You just can't. But it kind of provides a little window into, like, their mindset. It sure does. They really are looking for a path forward past Rick Grimes. And it's just going to feel like a completely different show. It's not going to be the same. One thing I did notice to is Nicotero under his sports jacket, he was wearing a whisper shirt. Yeah, that was kind of cool.

Whisper, whisper, whisper. Yeah, all the way, that was kind of cool. The upside down pyramid of the whispers. which means they're going to play a big, you know, super big role. You know what's so crazy is the production value is just so much better on this show. Unbelievable better.

The shots are more artsy. The walkers are better. It's like everything, pacing, everything is better. It's just, yeah, it's just like, you know, it's so drastic. You wonder if it's, is it clearly budget? Is it just the budget?

Or is it talent behind the camera and directors and stuff? No, because they have fairly good directors, I think, also on fear, right? Yeah, I mean, they obviously are trying to expand their base by letting the actors who are worthy become directors. I don't know how many times that's happened on Walking Dead, but obviously fear they're doing that. You're right, though. I mean, it's got to be... Just that right there.

If the story is not up to par, it's still a tons better show than fear. Right. Even with the writing is not like how it was in season one or whatever. It's just like right there, you're still going to watch. it over fear. I don't know, you'd think that they'd be able to mimic that in the other show. Except for the people who think fear is actually better than walking out. Those people are idiots.

Those people live at the sanctuary and are on welfare. One thing I also noticed is, even though we're in the first episode of this season, it felt I don't know if this is coming off of fear or me

or it actually being truthful, but this episode felt a little fresh, like something new a little bit. No question about that. And again, that comes also with the talent behind, right? I mean, it's got to be budget. And it was just like, I was fatiguing going through the All Out War

storyline. Like I remember I was so into it, you know, in the beginning. But like at the end of it, I was just like, man, I just, I just, we need a breath fresh air. We, we, I was kind of tired. Like it was, for me, it was good TV to be so on edge and it was very agonizing.

seeing Rick being humbled, you know, and just, you know. You know, being a little bitch boy. That was that was agonizing. But like, but no, it definitely felt fresh to be like, okay, finally they're back on their feet. Although that's scary because every time that happens is when it hits the fan. And that's what we love about the show. Yeah.

Because when that happens, then the group, like Darrell said, we could do anything. You know, when we were together, we could, that group, we could do anything. Yeah. And, you know, being a part, we can't do that. that. And that's like saying, Rick, we need to come together. And one thing that I noticed, too, is I actually,

from what actually some people were saying, is that the way the show is changing a little bit is also, other than Rick dying, is taking a somewhat inspiration from the comics. Because after All Out War ended, the comics went through a pretty, like, somewhat redesigned. Like the artwork went through a small redesign. And so, like, a lot of the characters you could tell were the same characters, but they had different, you could definitely tell some differences. And the covers were definitely different as

well. So that's what they're saying, a few people were saying is after all that war, redesign, like they did kind of in the comics. Interesting. That is interesting. Okay, so we're looking ahead to next episode. I mean, I don't know how many episodes Rick is going to be in there. The preview looked like they were trying to rebuild that bridge and someone is sabotaging the way they were moving the walkers away. And so it looked like they were going to have to fight this giant hoard, which could be the whispers, because even if they, even if they shoot whatever the cannon or whatever they were using to just make the walkers go another direction, if it's the whisperers, right, they direct the walkers wherever they want, right? That's what, I mean,

that's their deal, right? They're hidden in the walkers. They're hidden in the walkers, and if they want, they can direct them. Yeah, they kind of, I mean, they, obviously, you're not directing them all, but you can kind of start leading them. I mean, walkers are like, I cannot wait. I cannot wait. So we see this giant hoard, like from the comics, because we kind of saw, I don't know if that hoard we saw at the end of season eight was the whisperer horde, but if it is, I want to see it up

close because that is the biggest hoard we have ever seen. We did see, I would be surprised. Remember when we saw the prison horde when they were all inside the fences that was so huge and they were talking about, I forget who it was, they were on the road

and they talked about it could smell it. Remember the horde and down the rock quarry? Yes. That was crazy big too. That was crazy too, yes. This would be about 10 times. This would be bigger. Was that the prison? No. Any whore? That was Alexandria.

Here's the thing. Any horde we have ever seen, the Whisperer Horde is bigger. I'm not kidding. Any horde we have seen, the Whisperer Horde is bigger. Because we've seen some pretty big hordes. Now that horde in the prison, obviously, they didn't want to go down there and get them all riled up and knock down the fences. See, that's the thing I think is the coolest thing about the show is when they, because like, when they make the walkers more of, more, more dill, more dangerous and more of the, you know, the threat instead of the people. Like, the show is always better.

You know, with the whisperers, that's going to be the main point. That's going to be cool. You don't know if a walker's going to bite you or stab you. So how long before they introduced that, you guys think? Soon, actually. I think that's coming next week, right? Because I think that was the, I think that was the tease with the whart that they were trying to maneuver while they built the bridge. Because they had somebody, it looked like there was someone sabotaging the sound effect, whatever they were using to direct the horde.

and some of the people from the sanctuary were gone and didn't show up. Right? And so we don't know what happened to them, but that's when he was talking about they didn't have any weapons. And when he said, well, we disarmed them for a reason. I think it's long-haired. I think that's that long-haired dude that was trying to put the walker up on the scarecrow and the paint guy.

I think it's that guy. Oh, yeah, I believe that. I just think he's going to have a bigger role. I think he's going to have a bad role. So do we have any death predictions? And he's going to be a big guy, but he's not going to be as big as what's his face from The Whispers. Beda. Yeah.

The Obeda you'll take care of it. Yo, Beda is going to be a big part. I can't wait to see him. I love that. I love that actor. I do too. He was great in Sons of Anarchy. He's just really good.

So do we have any death predictions before we go? Well, I mean, we're just waiting on Rick, right? We're just waiting on Rick. And Maggie. Well, Maggie's not going to die. they're just going to make she right now has they still want her to hang around right so she's she's signed the deal for you know like a minor in and out she's not going to be in every episode she's in and out she's filming her other series so she's been in and out i don't know how many episodes she

gets um so she's not going to go away i'm not expecting a main guy some some i'm expecting at least a b character that they've been building up you know my my guess would be Maybe who's the guy that used to be a savior and was like singing the song at the funeral? I'd like to see him go too. He's kind of agonized. Really? I kind of like him. I want to see him go, but I bet you they're going to kind of like get him close to Maggie.

And then maybe the whispers take him out. Something like that. He seems like because they're building him up for something. So the only thing I can think of is they want like a little bit more of an impactful death. So they're going to like liken us to one of these B characters and kill them off. How long Aaron's going to be around? We saw Aaron this episode too We forgot he had a beard

He had a big beard Yeah he was out Out flirting with Jesus Out flirting with Jesus Yeah Yeah Yeah That's exactly

Flirting with Jesus Come on man Oh you mean karate That's not what I was saying I mean I didn't mean the Oh never yeah yeah Yeah yeah Cheerleaders

The class of the kids Yeah We're fine But uh Shut up But no No, I have two death predictions. Okay, I've already said alpha because of her story with Negan in the comics.

Right. Actually, no, wait, three. Gabriel. Oh, you mean in the finale? Like, through the whole show. Are you talking about next episode? No, I'm not talking about the whole season. Whoa, holy crap.

Max, you're getting too far ahead, bro. But no, for the season. We haven't even lost Rick yet. Calm down. For the season, other than Rick, I have three death predictions. So Alpha, because the first story with Negan Okay Gabriel

And it just brought her in this year, right? Yeah, and well, she gets introduced And then they kind of kill her off And then beta takes over, right? And that's her boy, that'll be good Gabriel Yep, he can go No, because of how he dies in the comics too

Do you guys want to know how he dies? The doc can go to, hold on, just stop I'll pause for just a second And I do want to know how he dies but the doc could go to. I was hoping he got bit with the spiders. Oh, really? The spider walker.

Oh, yeah. That was awesome. That was really cool. He ain't dying. They have no other doctor. He ain't dying. That's a good point. All right, so how does he die?

Gabriel, so he's on either a water tower or a windmill, so the windmill might come into effect. And he's looking, and then he sees the whisperer horde coming. He wants to, he needs to go warn the crew. So he does. and then as he's climbing down, his foot gets stuck, and then he's just hanging upside down, and then Bato walks past him, and then with, I think without just,

I think without even saying a word, Bader just takes his big knife, puts it right in, uh, puts it right in Gabriel's stomach, slashes it open, and the herd just walks past Gabriel eating him. Wow. Crazy. Isn't there a scene, like, really iconic,

don't they go to like a, in the comics, they go to like a carnival or something like that or like a fair that the community has where they all kind of attend? No, not really. And multiple people end up kind of like getting killed by the whispers. I was told to watch for a like carnival scene

or something like that or like a festival or something like that that they all attend. Well, I bet you they do all come together because Rick's going to want to build his charter, right? And can I tell you my third? Or at least Michone will try to, after Rick dies, Michelle will definitely try to get them all together for the design.

the charter so they will all be together. Maybe that's it. And you want my third death prediction? Lucille. The bat. Mm-hmm. Yeah. How that bat gets destroyed is iconic. All right, there you have it. Hey, week one, under our bells,

thank you so much for coming along for the ride. Don't forget chewing the fat every weekday. Podcast will be up there, so you'll have this and chewing the fat. Monday through Friday and every Monday we'll be back with Talking Walking Dead. Thank you. Have a great week. Stay dead.