Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Season 9 Episode 5: "What Comes After" - 11/5/18

Episode Date: November 5, 2018

Rick Grimes Final Episode... IMDB description… Rick is forced to face the past as he struggles to maintain the safety of the communities and protect the future he and Carl envisioned. Jeff Fisher Joining me Jason Buttrill and Maximus Fisher Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Chewing the Fat on Demand. Season 9, episode 5, what comes after? Jeff Fisher, along with Jason Buttrill and Maximus Fisher, and that means you're listening to Talking Walking Dead. Welcome to it, Talking Walking Dead. The, as advertised, Rick Grimes' final episode. Did you break your TV, Jason? No. I ended up not breaking my TV.

I thought there was, so it's weird that the, the evolution I had of feeling since our last podcast. Right. Because I was like, there's no way they can like do this, you know, correctly. And I'm going to be pissed off. Yeah. But I like thought about that even more. And I was like, wait a minute, that's true. There's no way they can successfully pull this off with killing him.

Right. Absolutely no way. And then I read a leak saying that they're looking at, I mean, this is like a very timed leak from AMC. I think this was actually on Sunday, like Sunday morning. It said they were looking at doing more like feature film type stuff for The Walking Dead. And I was like, huh. I was like, okay, I'm convinced. They're not killing him.

They're just not doing it. I refuse to read any leaks. That's just me. Right. But we had the, even if they had killed them the first, let's back up. So even if they were to kill him, they could still timeline it. for the movies. And, you know, he'd still be alive.

They could still justify that. But when you listen to Scott Gimple on the show that airs after Walking Dead, whatever the heck it's called, they, he, first of all, oh, a side note of that. I was watching, so I'm watching Talking Dead after the show. And Gimple's on, he's like the most powerful guy in Hollywood right now. Yeah. He really is. He really is.

I mean, he went down a list of what they're working on and what they're trying to come up with. And, I mean, I was thinking, man, people are lining up at his door to work.

I mean, they have the money. They have the plans. They have the franchise. He's the most powerful guy in Hollywood right now. He apparently can do anything he wants with a franchise right now. No kidding. Feature this.

And I thought this was very interesting because I always compare this with like the rabid fan base of like Game of Thrones. Because it's like, I think it's very. similar, like how people get into it. And I just read an article came out in, I think it was E or one of those magazines, talking about Game of Thrones. And those creators, Beanie off and the other guy, Dan and Dave or whatever,

they said that they came up with a similar thing. They said that they knew that they wanted to do like the final season, like correctly. So they were like, let's just do like actual shows, like actual HBO produced little mini movies, like multiple. And that'll give us more money, yada, yada, yada. Eventually they were like, well, we're not going to be able to get the money, and they decided not to do that and just go the original route and put it into one season. But I was like, holy crap, so these two juggernauts, which are equal to like Gimple.

But they couldn't pull off what he's pulling off right now with the Walking Dead. Yeah. I mean, you have the two most watch shows on AMC right now. That's significant. But the Game of Thrones guys already signed a deal with Amazon, right, for created stuff. That's for something else, though. Right. But I'm just, but I don't even think they know what it is.

I think if I remember right, that deal was, yeah, we're going to do something with Amazon. You're going to give us a bunch of money, but we're not going to do it until after Game of Thrones. So thank you. Right. What is that? I can't remember what show that is. I don't even know if it's a show. Honestly, I don't even know if it's an idea yet.

I feel like it was we had a couple of really good ideas and we went to Amazon and they gave us a bunch of money. So we're going to finish up our deal with HBO and we're going to go to Amazon and create for them. So, yeah, I watch the, I watch the show. that comes after Walking Dead, and they had a two-part interview with Andrew Lincoln. Yeah, that was really good. All right. We're way ahead. Yeah.

So we'll back up. All right. Thanks for listening to Talking Walking Dead. And we'll back up now, and then we'll just like the show, we'll go back to the beginning. It starts off with Rick in the hospital. And so we know it's Rick's final season or final episode. which is already breaking my heart

the whole thing was just breaking my heart and you can read these in our group text the emotion on this because I'm like I sent a text to both Max and Jeffie

although we never hear from Max I don't even know why his number is on us because he's busy he has a Sunday night meeting he has to every Sunday I have meetings to go to and they always

run through Walking Dead but it's funny I'm like at 6 o'clock which I was still not on thinking daylight savings time so I was thinking the show was

starting in like 10 minutes. But like a 650, I'm like, you guys ready for this? Not sure I am. And that's exactly my mood. I told my wife, I was like, don't even, don't let the kids come down to the family room. Like, don't. Because I am like in such a mood right now.

I was like, so emotional. And it's funny. It's like, right before it, I was like, here we go. I know. And you said memories. You know, and I was like. And then I like, I like texted a S.H. A bunch of eyes.

Yeah, there may have been a few texts of adult themed. There was definitely a few scenes where the texts were definitely adult themed. Yeah, I know. But I want to point this out at 8.01 p.m. Right. One minute after the show starts. This is my text. Number one text.

He ain't going to die next tech two seconds later. No way. Right. And you and I had talked about the way the show ended. You and I had talked about that. Did we not? because I feel like that was your call. And I don't, I'm not, you know, look, I don't really want to give you credit.

But you're going to have to. But I mean, I feel like you and I talked about that and that was your, that was your idea of what happened and what exactly happened. Okay. So what was, what was the weird thing about this was that they kept setting up this Jadus thing, this A and B, the helicopter. And letting, letting Father Gabriel go at the end of last episode. made no sense. You know what I mean? Like, so you're calling in this helicopter for what?

You know what I mean? And then right off the bat. Did they start it off with him on the whole? She was, I mean, it was close, right? Yeah. She was in the broken down vehicle.

Really close to that. You want to know what that vehicle was? That was the RV. Oh, okay, there you go. And of course, we know that it runs great. Not.

But she was broke down and she had already called, right? She was talking to them. and she's actually trying to get them to come and get her so that she can kill them and take off. When's the last time we saw the RV? That was Negan time, right? Yeah. Wait.

No. I think it was after. So last time we saw the RV was it when, what's when those two went to the bridge, that one bridge? Right. That black guy. Heath. Heath and Tara. Who just disappeared?

Yeah, who just. Oh, crap. Yeah. Yeah. Remember we were talking about that key card, trying to figure out the key cards? Yes. Oh, wait a minute. Yes, those people.

That could have been what happened to Heath. He's there. He's coming out in the movie. Watch that. So the comment, I'm assuming, we'll get to that later, but whoever Jadis has turned these people over to, that's where Heath is. And that key card was probably to one of their facilities.

Dang, I just not thought about that. Holy crap. That's exactly what it is. That's really good. Okay. So, you know, we know we struggle through Rick pulling himself off the rebar. That was brutal.

I mean, that hurt watching. With the two horns come out of him, just took off his belt and just starts pulling off the rebar. That hurt watching. Dude, and that was a crazy horde. That was like, that was some serious stuff. And I heard it like later on in his interview,

he said 10,000. I think that that probably wasn't just him exaggerating. I bet they wanted to create that. That feel. That probably said that in the description of the script. 10,000 plus hoard. Yeah. That's that's, that's, that's, that's legit.

And we'll see a bigger one. And they'll do some damage. And then he jumps on that dang horse. Okay. The horse. The horse. Freaking horse. And then, uh, he's injured.

I know we're just, it's TV and I love it and it's Rick Grimes. And he's going to survive no matter what. But he falls off last week onto the rebar. This week he's injured after pulling himself off the rebar and the horse does the same thing, but he stays on. There's the thought. Right. The horse, though, kill him.

Just let the horse eat the horse and get out of there, Rick. Yeah. The horse still lived, though. Just ran off. That's funny. Like, right at that point, both of us said at the same time, man, F that horse. That's that horse. Right.

That horse. What the heck? And then we had Rick walking through Atlanta. Like, that was an awesome scene where him on the white, horse with the horde behind him and him on the road to Atlanta. Yeah, and his passing out injured dream sequences where they brought back the old characters were, it was really cool. I mean, I like the way they did that.

The first one was Shane. That was really good. That was cold, man. That was really good. That was my daughter doing. That was cold. I was like, dang. So it shows you that that's in his mind.

Like he doesn't know and it bothers him. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. That irritates him. And then we had... That's why I killed that bastard. Yeah.

And then we had May he rest in peace, Scott Wilson, return for Herschel. That was sad. I sure was. Yeah, that was sad on all levels,

man. That was like, you know what that reminded me of? I thought about you, Maximus X at that point, because in Gladiator, that, like,

the slave owner, that was like his last movie. Yes. And there was one scene in that where they had, I don't know why. This is kind of off topic. But it just like,

there was one scene where they had to redo and it was just like his silhouette. Oh, yeah, because he wasn't alive. And he was an iconic, very iconic actor. And I was like, but it reminded me of that. I was like, oh, man, it's just, yeah, kind of jacked. Yeah, no kidding. Very sad.

And then he went to the hospital, him walking through the hospital. Hospital. And then we went to the sky of, you know, the mountain of dead of dead. And seeing all the faces of the dead. Kind of like, remember the Robin Williams movie, what dreams may come? Yeah. Just like that. Yeah, that was good.

Yeah. And then we had Sasha come back. Did you notice that, Jesus was, did you just pick out some of the faces? Yeah, I did. I think I saw Maggie. Maggie, Jesus, I know for sure. It was kind of hard to make out some of the others, but you could tell they were trying. They didn't have the actors, but they wanted you to think that it was, that they were all there.

Like that blonde-haired girl that died in the hospital. Yes. They just showed the back of her. Yeah, Beth. Yeah, Beth. And that's why I think Sasha talked, or if they had Sasha talking to them, what? Shut up. I mean, I like Sasha, but no way.

I'm sorry. There's better people to bring back to talk to Rick on the mountain of dead than Sasha. I was hoping to see what's his name? Soldier got hit. Abraham. Abe. How do you not get Abe back? Yes, because he's the one.

Remember that said the world's going to need people like Rick Grimes at the end? Remember when they were on the bus? Yeah. He would have been a perfect job. I was so waiting for it. I was expecting Carl to show up for one, just once. That would have been a good choice, too. They didn't.

Yeah. His last episode, they don't have Carl come. That's very interesting. They could have easily cut that. You know what I mean? Like, because they were already planning on this as per his interview. That he was supposed to die last season. Yeah, he was.

He said, uh, under the tree. That was his idea of he was supposed to die under that tree. That would have sucked. And I remember there were some, there's some photos that came out that AMC just kind of sent out his promotional pictures. And one of them was Rick sitting under there with like his hand on his side. So that was probably his. death, you know, test photo.

But he said at Comic-Con that last year, he was just like, I have to keep going. And that would have been brutal. And he said that in the interview that, like, you can't kill off the entire family in one season. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. No way. Plus, we're here because of your family, douche. Yeah.

Shut up. And even then, even then he said, yeah, there was plans that the helicopter would come in and pick him up. So that's always been. But we had to build it up, right? At that point, we hadn't built up the A or the B characters, and we didn't know that she was actually pawning off these people, right? Right. Now we know why Negan was tied up and she didn't kill him. Now we know even we go back farther with Heath and the RV.

But we didn't, at that time, under the tree, we didn't know that. This has been a very developed storyline. Yes, it has. You think about how far they go back. I mean, none of this is in the comics. Like this whole helicopter storyline, none of it.

Yeah. What, they got to be set. Got to be setting up Commonwealth, right? This isn't Commonwealth, I don't think. But they have,

does anybody else, like, I haven't read it, but does anybody else have that capability? I don't think so. I don't, I don't even know

if Commonwealth has that capability. I could be wrong. Well, I mean, they have a book on how to build, you know, cups. We don't even know

if that's the Commonwealth. We don't even know if the key to the future girls from the Commonwealth. I just think it's got to be. I mean, it's just, that's the next big storyline. You know what I mean? Like, it's going to take them a while to get through the whispers. Like, it could be longer than this season.

And we did set up the whispers, right? With the, with the tease of the next four episodes. Yeah. When they talked about the herd just spinning or circling around in the field, you ever see them do that before? No, that's the whispers. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the whispers. So, But the next, I mean, some of the previews of the next four episodes really good, hooked me. And then the previews of the future looked great. We are way getting ahead of ourselves because there were so much in this episode. Rick's dead, move on. He's not dead.

Oh, you're going to like this. You know the song that was playing while they were flying away in the helicopter? No, we can't get to that yet. There was too much stuff. Let's get back to the Maggie All the Maggie and Negan stuff Maggie and Negan was fantastic That Maggie and Negan scene

And setting it up before that The killing the Walker Yes the Keel The Negan Walker kill So I had two thoughts from that Just seeing that I think and I said this in the group test That looked like

Negan beating the crap out of Glenn Sure did I just got that same sense I just like instead of a bat That's what she wanted I mean that was her feel She was so angry And her girl

You know her keeper her keeper doesn't even get off the horse she's so lazy she just sits up there and looks at her like ooh i'm not going to say anything right right right actually uh from what she was both getting sorry in the max so she was both getting ready for what she was about to do kind of like take it's a practice wings but also this little like you know foreshadowing of this is what i'm becoming becoming the person that i'm you know the old saying don't stare into the abyss let she become Yeah, and then on the show that comes on after, the crowbar she had. It was the blacksmith made by the blacksmith at Hilltop.

Apparently it was specially made to be around the same size as Lucille. Really? Interesting. Okay. Interesting. And the Negan scene was great. Yeah. No question.

I mean, they both were outstanding. Not what we expected. No, definitely not what we expected. and Negan. I don't like him that way. All crazy and whining. Shut up. I mean, he's going through the Rick stages.

Right. I thought the same thing. He has to break out of that. Have a sandwich. Figure yourself out. There's something. I mean, at least trip and fall in Maggie and fight her. Do something.

Well, he wanted to die. Oh, I know. And you point in our little group. chat that he's just trying to get out of the I was like, come on, man. Come on, you got her set up. She said she's having you walk back to the cage. You got her perfectly set up.

Well, you got to his turn and attack. Whip boy goes back in the cage. Yeah. I mean, come on. Like, Negan in this world is probably the most unbeatable person one-on-one. Right. You're not going to beat him unless it's some like trick, like Rick, what Rick pulled off. Right.

Or something like that. Except maybe beta, but that's debatable. But beta's not even around yet. Right? So, I mean, it's Rick and Negan. That's it. I mean, Negan's already proven that his right-hand boy. He's unstoppable. Right. He's going to go through Maggie like butter. Right. I mean, yeah. So like, but he didn't want to. He wanted to die. The whole time I'm thinking, dang, he really wants to die. Like he was so over talking how he like popped out. Remember he goes when your husband's eyeball popped out of his. I was like, he was getting her so mad. What was his name again? Yeah. It was so good. He's just reeling her in to get her.

so mad. It was just bad. And I get it. I get it. And it was really good. Right? I mean, in the end, you look at that storyline, you know that he's going to come back. I mean, it is the Rick story all over again. And actually, the funny thing is that scene with him and Maggie was adapted from an issue, I think issue 174. But that issue takes place after the Whisperer War. So they did this, so did they made, so they put this seen in early with a little bit of changes like with Negan having Lucille next to him and then him saying, you know, it'd be kind of funny if you just pick that up and do it to me with that

thing. Right. And episode 175 of page four, he picks up a rock. I'm just explaining. I know. I appreciate it. I love you, boy. I don't really.

But I still thought that was a great scene and we finally have an answer to why he was on the hunger strike or when. he was beating his head on the wall. He was trying to kill himself. Right. He's tired, right? He wants to be with his wife and Lucille. Yeah. His wife is named Lucille. Well, the bat. He wants to be with the bat. He doesn't want to be with his wife, okay. He said he wants to be with my wife Lucille. That's what he said. Thank you. I know. It's okay. It's just a joke by the bat. Yeah, I know.

So then we have that. And then that's when we, you know, at the end, Isn't after that scene is when they went over to, that's when they switched over to Jadis? I think right after that? Yeah, she's talking, telling them that it's not a trick, right? Because it is a trick. At that point, it's still a trick. She wants to kill those people.

All right, so I want to go back to a verbatim read-through of the group text. And I said, quote, you just can't do a Rick death any justice. No way they let him die. The leave is disappearance of the cliffhanger. And then they show Jadis and then you go, here you go. I go, she's going to switch her A to Rick. Boom.

It was going to be Gabriel, but now Rick. There's your boy, yeah, perfect. That was at 807 in the episode last night. There. We should attach screenshots of this to the podcast description. That's funny. I believe you. I lived it.

No, I know. Okay. I got it. I see. There's another, another. Let's see here. There were some adult context in there, too. So scroll by that.

At one point, you go, ha, nah. I know. Right there. There were a couple times. There were a couple times I thought, no way. I thought, no way. It's not going to happen. And for sure, it just comes back and slaps you in the face right then.

Oh, my gosh. How many things that I can't catch in this? episode. Check this out. Okay, 822 last night. Okay, about halfway. Judith is going to take Carl's storyline. Oh yeah, we talked about that. They're going to make little ass kicker a big ass kicker. I bet they advance the timeline significantly. And we know. I know. I know. We talked about that. You and I talked about that in the hallway too last week about that. And we talked about the possibility of Herbie and Carl. We talked about the possibility of the step up of the king's kid, the little, the little, uh,

Henry. Henry. Henry. I think Henry is taking Carl's storyline though. Oh no. You kidding me? It's so, she's wearing his hat for crying out loud. Yeah, except around this time in the comics, Carl barely wears the hat anymore. Okay. Well, look. I think the symbology of it is like the whole point for the hat.

Like, this is the new Carl. Oh, and it even said in, in the little, remember like when they pay tribute to the ones they lost? It said Anne to Judith. Carl may be dead, but his legacy lives on. Rick. It said Rick is gone, but his legacy lives on with Judith. With Judith. Yeah, it was with Rick.

Judith Grives. At the end, we had her save... She was great. We had her save Magna's group. Magnus the... I mean, the cure is in charge. Who? Judith. Oh. The cure.

Oh, come on. She's the cure, baby. Come on. And she was wearing the katana, she was wearing the katana on her. She had a katana on her. She had Rick's pistol. She looked badass. Wearing the cowboy boots too. The one scene was, the special preview was Michelle coming back all bad, trying to, who okayed these people coming into Alexandria? And what's his face?

Aaron. Aaron says I did. You don't have that authorization. Judas said, I did. Yeah. Okay. You got something to say, Mishone.

I want you to hopsick your ass back over to the house. That's so funny. It was so good. I at least think about maybe she might take some of Carl's storyline later in the comics, but the storyline between the daughter of Alpha, I think that's going to Henry. Couldn't they just switch that to a boy? They could, but do you know what the time jump is, actually? Yeah, we do know the time jump.

It's like six years? Yes, six years. Yeah, because Carol said that in her interview. Six years is a long time. Dude. That would probably, six years is probably equals to significantly in a group text from Jason Butrell. Six, yeah. Significant means specifically six years.

Yeah. I think it equals six years exactly. Yeah. As a writer, you would know that. Totally. Obviously. We see, in the trailer, we see it. Six years is a long time.

And it would seem to me, that think about this for a second. Now, six years is a long time. And it just seems like we would be advanced more for some reason. We'll see where we're at. But, you know, I would think that we would be more, we're going to know more about who the Janus people are. There would be more people trying to take control. But we're still worried about the outliers of a few people that Judas saved out in the woods. I don't know.

I'm not quite sure. Well, it's hard to tell, really, from what they showed us. You know what I mean? I don't know. It's hard to tell. It is a little, and we see a little Negan again in the trailer. He was talking to Judith. Yeah.

Oh, I missed that. It was really good, yeah. Was he still behind bars? Yeah. And he said something about, the line was really good, though. Like, Judith is, oh, you're coming to talk to me. No, no, no, it was. It was like, she was talking to need to.

So there was these new strangers that came in, and then he was like, so I'm guessing you want to help him. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's going to help him. So he's coming back. He's coming back around with talk like that. Yeah, you want to help him. Damn Rick Grimes' blood. Did you guys think...

No Shane blood. Still Grimes. Did you guys think that he was going to die on that last scene on the bridge? Yes, I honestly did when he... That was a great scene, though, with Daryl shooting the arrows and then... It was good. And then he's just like, I found him. Bang, shoots the dynamite.

Yeah. Because Daryl realized what he was doing. I mean, that's what he was like. Yeah. That scene hit me out. Like, Michone, like, running towards, that was okay. But the scene with Darrell, him just looking and then tearing up, that was good. Yeah, because at the time, that was when Rick said, no, don't.

So stop. And that's a tough one to take. That's a real tough one to take. However, I will say that that's when I also thought that Jason was wrong. I figured he blew up on the bridge. If he did blow up on the bridge, Jason, you would have gotten your wrist. He blew up in a blaze of glory saving people from walkers. We would have seen it, though.

You know what I mean? I should have realized at the time I'm thinking, now he's dead, you're done. And then I should have seen that we would have shown, they would have shown him blowing up with the blaze of glory with the walkers. Might I go ahead. Go back to the group text. I know, I know, I know.

So I'm setting it up. Quote, he'll get washed down stream with the rest of them, calling it. Then Jevi Fisher answers back, what? Anticlimactic? And then I go, next scene, as a writer, I'd have Rick washed down stream. Jadis calls in the helo to save him. We haven't seen a body or death. No way they don't pay that off after hyping it up.

And that's what they did. Perfect. I know. I mean, damn. So I am looking forward to the next episode. episodes for sure, though. Yeah. You know, we were concerned, a little bit concerned about that.

And, man, I got to tell you, too, all their plans for AMC, I mean, what's maybe, Rick Grimes, solo movies. All their, they're as some mini-series and then solo standalone shows. Yeah. I'm just not convinced he's off the show permanently. Like, they keep saying that, but I still think they're John Snowing it. He's too franchised. He's two franchised now.

Just what we said earlier is like, why would, there's no way he gives up Rick Grimes. I mean, I just don't see it. He never, here's the thing. Did he ever say he gave up

playing Rick Grimes? He said this was his last season on the show. Yeah, yeah. Right. Right. And that's what they're, the final episode of Rick Grimes.

So they never said he was going to die. Yeah. And, you know, everyone just assumed that final episode means you're going to die. Obviously not. But,

you know, Gimple, it makes me, I mean, AMC, if you're, are they hiring? Don't tell Glenn. Because you're still, you want to be an actor on the show? You'd be like a part of a creator on the show? Yes.

Both. Yes. And actually, I know. It's exciting, really. It really is. I know. Multiple films? I know.

Multiple films, multiple films, multiple miniseries, characters that are dead. We may go back and revisit their timeline. so they come, you know, they're bringing characters back. Oh, that's right. And that just screams Negan backstory. Yeah, that does. Screams it.

Yes. They'll have to do that. Like that entire comic, that's rich. That's like, that's an easy miniseries, right? Like a three-part miniseries or something? Yeah, that could definitely become a three-part miniseries. That's getting done. Then one thing too, which was really cool, which I didn't notice until later.

And I actually saw it on the show that comes on after too, is the, the song that was playing when Rick was in the helicopter, you know, that kind of upbeat, kind of funky, jazzy tune thing. When while he was flying way in the helicopter, that was played for the credits of the pilot. Oh, okay. Oh, huh. So they try to tie everything together. It's kind of cool.

Crazy. They want to, you know, for insiders like you. That's what we have you around for, boy. Thank you. See, Brad would have noticed that they didn't put the right bolts like in the other. In a helicopter? Like, oh, my God. Look at that wing nut.

That's such bull crap. The hospital bed doesn't sit in a helicopter like that. That's stupid. No, no, he wouldn't have done it with a helicopter. He doesn't know that much about helicopters. He would have done it with the bridge. That's true. Because the bridge is made out of wood.

You would have done it out the bridge was made. Any last words? Because I'm telling you, I'm looking forward to next week, no question. And I'm looking forward to the rest of this half of this season for sure. It's not even half. No, the rest of this half. Oh, the rest of this half. When is the mid-season finale?

Three episodes. Yeah, the next three. Holy crap. So, okay, so then they'll go to break. So, I don't know. You know, jury is still out on whether this show can hold without Rick Grimes. I know. I'm not fully convinced, but I think the next three episodes will be huge in determining that.

So we'll see. Yes, it will. And I'm willing to give it a shot. You know, I really, we argued back and forth whether it was going to be. be worth giving it a shot. But what we've seen so far looks like it may be worthy. But I don't want to put this in the same pile as Walking Dead, but I thought the same thing with Roseanne.

And then they didn't bring her back and they just took a beating. Tanked. Just took a beating. Wait, the Connish? The show wasn't that bad. The show wasn't that bad. But without Roseanne, people weren't having zero of it. Wait, the Connors isn't doing that well?

No, one more episode gone. Have a nice day. I know, and I understand. We watch it, but my point to that is is that, you know, the show still might be okay, but does the audience buy it? Yeah.

I don't know. And do we have any predictions on the new, newly announced Rick Grimes movies? No, we don't. I do want the little lapel that Gimple had on a shirt of the Rick Grimes pin.

The same with the cowboy hat. Was it him pointing the gun? Just call me. Scott, I'll give you the address. Go ahead and send that. I got a little upset because I guess what the fan who got to ask a question got for a gift. He got Rick Grimes belt with the hatchet signed by Andy Lincoln. That's nice.

Oh, wow. Really, really, really cool. That's really nice. Did you guys, what's that lady's name that filled in for Chris Hardwick and did the interview? And then she did the interview with Rick. I do not like her. I do not real crazy about her either, but they love her. I don't, her interview was so annoying because she kept talking over Andy Lincoln.

I was like, shut up. Let him talk. You know, like, she's like, ooh, oh. You know, like saying all this stuff in the middle. I'm like, shut up. Like, this is his time. Like, this is his last interview possibly on this show. Yeah.

Shut up. I was surprised that our boy didn't do it. I don't know. He said he would have been so much better. I was really surprised that our boy didn't do it. And I have a feeling that was. I wonder if I'm biased because she filled in for him. Like they were going to plug and play.

And look, she might have filmed that then. That's true. You know, when they were having their to do. So that might have been happening there. So instead of going back, Rick is like, I already did one. He used that one. It's true. Which is why they brought her back to sit on the couch for this last episode.

So that, you know, to say that that's why we did the interview. She's here. It was so annoying, though. It was like in that moment, you just let that person that's their last. You just let them talk. You know, it's like a podcast. I hate it in podcasts when they don't let the guests speak more than the actual interview. I hate podcast hosts.

Oh, man, do I hate podcast hosts? You should listen to this one, though, Talking Walking Dead. And you should listen to my daily one chewing the fat. That host is great. The other podcast, oh, they suck. Words out on the street. Words out on the street. Thank you.

Yeah, I'm sure it is. All right, thanks for listening. We'll see you next week out and Talking Walking Dead. Have a great week.