Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - Talking Walking Dead S7 Ep14 The Other Side …of Dead
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Season 7, episode 14,
the other side.
Welcome to Talking Walking Dead.
O'H-H-L-H-L-E-L-E-L-A.
I don't know if that was long enough, put it back up there again.
You can get those T-shirts that you're looking at.
I mean, the graphic of the T-shirt that you're seeing,
at jeffy-F-E-F-Y-F-Y-S-H-E-R.com.
Fair price, and I want to be sure,
just so that I beat Brad to the Ponce,
that's not real blood.
Hey!
It could be.
A lot of people think it's real blood.
Brad Stags.
Jason Butcher.
Sean Foster.
You have a new edition who
logged down to me the other day walking by.
Let me be a part of it.
That hurts the last thing about the walking guy.
I had to come in.
Welcome, Cal.
We don't have an extra mic for you.
She's just got to share with Brad.
I'll just be really loud.
What we will do is we'll just get really close.
This is not a nice of all.
nice all right so while we get we'll we'll get started on episode 14 and we only have one more
episode right oh my god right episode two more no two more two more two more okay well that makes it a
little bit more palatable but barely um i got some gifts i received some gifts from the walking
dead town gifts or gifts like the moving pictures or gift gifts gifts is there a tea in there
i got it from the woodberry shop woodbury georgia walk
The Walking Dead store.
Oh my gosh, that's cool.
All right?
I'm assuming you're going to share with everybody, right?
No, that's not going to happen.
There is no sharing.
I'm just sharing the pictures.
Have you met, Jeffrey?
First we got the zombie car stickers for the family.
Oh, that's dope.
Come on.
Oh, that is nice.
It's cute.
That's very nice.
Cute, right?
We got the...
They don't stick well.
Okay, so Nick and Norman Rebus
could not find a place to eat while they've been filming Walking Dead there
for the past seven seasons.
So they opened up their own restaurant.
Are you serious?
Nicky Gorman's and that's a glass from their restaurant.
Is that a solo cup?
Oh, no, it's like...
No, it's heavy.
So it's like...
I've got the Walking Dead coffee.
Oh, that's wow.
All right?
What about that tastes like?
It's like rotting flesh.
Pretty cool.
I don't know.
I'll be trying it.
So you didn't read the tagline of the coffee.
Read it on the top, Jason.
So good.
It will make you...
It'll wake the dead.
It'll wake the dead.
It'll wake the dead.
Oh.
That's nice.
See what you did there.
But the Waking...
Why didn't you think of any of this stuff and we could be selling it?
The Waking Dead Cafe?
That's freaking dope, man.
Come on.
Or all these establishments in the town where they shoot?
Yes.
This is Sinoa.
This is...
This particular...
Which I guess was Sinoa.
Is it this shirt?
And by the way, for those of you listening to the podcast and not watching the vidcast...
Well, go to the vidcast.
Yeah.
But this particular shirt is...
The video.
The season seven crew.
Crewshire.
Oh, that's cool.
That is cool.
Is that real blood?
It says somebody out of blood.
The only difference between this being an actual cruiser and one that Jeff Fisher owns is that it says on the front of it, the Woodbury shop in Sanoa, Georgia.
And the cruiser actually say crew.
Hey, you know what?
I don't think that's fitting you.
I might have to take that out of the answer.
If it's not triple X.
This particular shirt, this one is a 3x.
Oh, okay.
No, that one's a 2x.
But this one that's a 3x that I have here,
it actually looks like an 8x, so I think it'll fit.
That's dope.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
That's cool.
That's the universal tool.
Who the how is sending you gifts?
This is cool crap.
That's my favorite.
Wait a minute.
Who do you even know down there that's sending?
My favorite.
Why do you have the attitude?
I'm just showing you stuff like that.
If you would build an actual set that we could use, I'd have those stuff set out.
Man.
Got a point.
Okay.
Here's, I'm telling you, it's a tough room.
Wow.
My job is details.
I come up with detail.
Alright, so this is going to be, I think, one of my favorite new gifts.
This is one of my favorite new gifts.
Before we get to the episode talk.
Well, I got the Lucille table lamp.
Oh, come on!
That's awesome.
That is real plastic.
I haven't even taken it.
You know where that would look really good?
That would look really good on a set.
It would look great on a set.
It would be killing me.
Oh, that's a lot.
So for those of you listening to the podcast, not watching the big show, let me explain.
This is a, this is a lamp that has a...
Lucille is the base.
Yeah, Lucille's the base.
It's got it, it's upside down the...
It's not the size that it's being advertised.
No, it's not the scale.
Not the scale.
Your bat is really small, Jeffey.
And it doesn't.
That's what she said.
My mom said it's not about the...
My mom said it's not about the...
the size it's right you hit the ball right is that real blood and then it
doesn't one of the other thing that doesn't come with light bulb well and you
have to turn the so we need a light in the shade upside up right side up to it's
up hold on I'm not just a switch I'm tweeting I'm gonna tweet a picture of the
blood because it looks frighteningly real so it doesn't have a all right we need a
bulb that small that's still cool come on there
That's world-class. That's pretty cool. That's very cool. Look great on a talking walking dead set.
One of these days. Wow. Oh, I'm sorry. Let me, uh, as soon as I get the budget approved for the set.
You already had a budget. We got couches and chairs.
Right. Right. Right. A table. Come on, this is pretty cool. The rest we can get from like
our city. We had the couch set up and someone complained about it. We're never going to find a light bulb.
Oh, we'll find a light bulb. I have a chuck.
We'll have a light bulb before the end of the vidcast.
Okay.
Now, anyway, so we'll sit down our way,
and let's talk a little bit about episode 14.
Oh, I thought we were done.
I'm good.
Let's walk.
Thanks for coming, Cal.
What did you bring?
This Coca-Cola can from the Sun of the Walking Dead is,
it has a bloodslash on it.
You went down to watch the filming,
and Norman Reers threw this on the ground.
It was almost spilled all out until I saved it,
and there's still some inside,
Norman Rees is backwash him.
I am so excited.
All right, so am I the only one?
They would do that.
I know.
All right, so before we discuss the possibilities of the future,
and there are numerous amounts of possibilities for the future,
am I the only one that was done with the soap opera of episode 14 by about 10 minutes in?
Oh, it was awful.
Yeah.
I think it was around 10 minutes when you were...
No, it was about 10 minutes into it, and I realized it,
nothing meaningful was going to happen at all.
We knew that they were just going to tease and tease and tease.
I agree.
We have that one there.
This is our emotional.
They're building it up.
They're building it up.
You can't just throw them into, you know.
And Sean says.
Five minute intro of music with no dialogue whatsoever.
That was a little annoying.
Rivening.
Rivening.
This is AMC always does this.
They have the filler episode where nothing happens,
where they're just going to tease you and just kind of like...
We already know who's going to doubt.
gonna die? Not necessarily.
Not necessarily.
Sasha's dying. Not necessarily.
Sasha has an appointment with
a starship. Oh, that's true.
She's on a new show, right? She's on
the new Star Trek? Yeah, she's in the new Star Trek. And that's a shame too,
because I'd like Negan to catch her and just
tie her up and let her be there
for the workers.
You don't like Sasha? I take it?
She needs a wife.
Can I say that out of?
Can I say that out of love?
I'm just, I'm just, I'm,
thinking of Megan.
Not me.
Nope.
That's something
that Megan would do,
not me.
Wow.
Oh, man.
So she's dead.
She walked in and she's done.
How can,
I don't,
how could you guys think
that that was up to par
for this season?
I just,
this, I mean,
I don't,
I'm assuming not the only
who's read the graphic novels.
So we know what's coming.
I'm trying not to get,
okay.
We know what's coming.
Don't sit so much.
They can't just like
throw you right into that,
you know,
they got to build up to that.
Well, they've built,
they spent the season
building up. Well, they're not going to give it to you this season.
They're going to end it on like one. They're giving
it to us all right. Yeah, I know.
And you're absolutely right. And we've discussed
that and we'll get to that here. Well, how many
episodes do we say are left? Two, three? Two.
Two more. All right.
So this
sets up everything. Of what?
Sets up everything of what? Well, we've got
Sosha. No.
Don't raise your voice.
The all out. I'm trying to get into the
mic.
The all out war. The war and end all war.
My issue was I didn't get any setup.
The only setup we got was a possible cameo from we'll get to, I'm sure, a little bit later,
but introducing a character that might switch allegiances coming up soon.
He would most definitely.
But do we want to name that now or do we want to get to that later?
We can get to it as we go.
That's fine.
That was at the end of the episode.
We can get to that.
I mean, we'll get to that.
We learned, look.
We like to stick to a structure.
What's his face?
There's no structure to this stupid thing.
Right.
There's, we like to, we have the, all right, hold on a second.
This is how much structure there is to the program.
Thank you.
That'll work to see here.
I got to get a Chuck.
See?
I have got to get it.
Everybody, thank you Chuck for the light bulb.
You're on.
Wait, Chuck.
Never mind, there's a plug right here.
Jeffie has trouble with small appliances, including lamps.
All right, let's go.
Again, if you're watching the vidcast, we just saw Negan light up with Lucille.
That's world class right there.
That's sick.
Come on.
decide is this real blood?
I don't think that's real blood either.
It's definitely real blood.
But it looks real.
It does look real.
Come on.
Tell me that's not world class right there.
That's dope.
That is.
That's really cool.
I only wish there was a set.
Oh, this is a set, so I'll just shut up.
This is a set.
It's just not a good one.
I had to save the set for the next season.
So, anyway.
There's chairs and tables here.
Yeah.
I mean, you know how many starving people there are right now in podcast land that are sitting in a chair or at a table?
They have to use tin cans for microphones.
How many?
A lot.
A whole lot.
So, all right, so we learned, what?
We learned Gregory is a douche.
More of a douche than ever.
We already knew that.
Right.
We already knew that.
But he's more of a douche than ever.
And he's trying to throw them under the bus without saying it.
that he's throwing him under the bus, real douche.
I mean, yeah, and they hinted at it from the very, from the very get-go when he's all down
in his last little bit of bourbon or whatever, and he's looking out the window and he could see
Maggie, you know, training. He knows his time coming in.
He's lost his leadership. And this was just one more, like, you know, step off the cliff for him
when he lost the only doctor that they had. Right. But I mean, you got a case full of aspirin.
Oh, yeah. Oh, oh. Here you go. What if there's something underneath that aspirin?
I thought it was going to be the other dead doctor in the box.
I thought they were going to kind of prove a point.
Well, that'd be gross.
It would be totally save your move, you know.
It would be very cool.
I didn't know that was his brother, though.
He said that was his brother.
Yeah, I didn't know that was his brother.
Yeah.
Well, I didn't know it was his brother.
And how callous was he on hearing that, you know, he's like,
one of my brother got killed, right?
Yeah, that's true.
There's another backstory.
You know, some more of the story there that we'll be there.
No, I don't need any more stories.
We don't eat any stories.
Just get on with it.
to the point. I don't need any backstories.
I don't need...
It's the apocalypse.
The back story and then, you know,
we go and we, I find
it, you know, Sasha
and before
we get to Sasha and Rosita off into
Savior Land, when we had
Daryl and Maggie hiding behind the bags of
onions, finally realizing
that Daryl, I'm sorry
it is not your fault and
we loved you.
Really, was that entire encounter
just for their reconciliation? Just for that.
for that. See, that's why I'm like, nothing had, like,
we knew the doctor, we knew they were going to take the doctor.
The rest of that, there was, I was,
nothing. There was no suspense. But it had to be
said, man. There's some emotional stuff there
that had to be said. But that was 30 minutes
of the show, just to say,
oh, they reconcile. Oh, and by the way,
Jesus is gay.
Well, it was that in there?
Yeah, he said boyfriend. He had a boy his boyfriend.
Oh, crap, I missed that. I'm
Mr. Details. I, uh...
You notice that? Oh, yeah. Okay,
Who came into you?
8 o'clock this morning and said Jesus is gay.
Do you have the dialogue of that
the details?
He said... It's in his notes, I bet.
I didn't take any notes this time.
This is the first time I haven't taken notes.
Wow.
Something about how it wasn't...
It didn't...
Yes, he had a hard time making relationships with his...
Friends, and then he said boyfriend.
Boyfriends.
So no set and no notes today.
I'm turning over a new leaf.
Everybody wants everything to be nice and clean around here,
so I'm not cluttering it up with notes and sets.
Canaan? Is he gay in the...
Yeah, he's gay in the books, yeah.
Wow, I don't know that.
But they don't introduce that to, like, later on.
Huh.
Gay in the books, you know how old gay in the books.
Gay in the comics.
Wow.
Yeah.
Anyway, see, that was my biggest issue.
And then the whole Sasha and...
Whoa, whoa, whoa. You say you're homophobic?
No.
You just said that was your biggest issue.
Are you trying to put in a mailbox?
That offends me.
I thought you were constitutional.
We can pay that.
We can play the offended game.
That's great.
All day long.
All day long.
So Sasha and Rosita then they sneak out under their secret hole by the wood pile.
Yeah, I was again...
And then the whole thing was trying to find a car.
Like, I don't need to see them trying to find a car.
They were bonding.
No, they didn't bond.
They didn't bond.
They didn't bond.
They didn't bond.
They didn't bond.
They're showing you the tension.
They're trying to find the car.
And, oh, Sasha's necklace was the one that Rosita made for.
Abraham. Oh my God. Tension.
They're building the tension. I thought more was
going to happen off that. When she
finally saw that, I thought she was in a fly to the handle.
I know. I would have. My original
prediction was that was all a setup. That's what I said
last time. I thought Rosita was set in Sasha
up. So she could get her alone and take her out?
You know, take her out or just let her be captured or
something like that. I just didn't buy it because she's been
so bitchy the entire show. But then
the more so about what happened where it's like
don't leave, don't love the fence, don't.
Oh shit. It's not your time yet. Go, they need you.
Oh, God.
That was a little, yeah.
See, you didn't like it.
The part was a little like, what's the point?
Like you said you needed her and then you locked her out.
What's the point?
Don't just try to fall in with the cool kids here.
I'm telling you.
It's a trap.
I'm all for like building it up, backstory, explaining.
We had a cool walker death at that point.
So when they were walking up to go cut the fence or whatever,
Eugene like dies out of the way and they take that one shot that took the walker out and the same.
I didn't notice that way.
I didn't notice that way.
Two and one.
Yeah, that was good.
That was dope.
How do you guys feel about Eugene?
I don't understand really what he's doing.
He stayed alive.
He is staying alive.
I think he knows if they take him,
Neagle come after him and he's more afraid of that than anything.
Or he has a plan and his plan's not ready yet.
Well, obviously his plan is not ready yet.
I do believe that he has not given up his allegiance to Rick.
But I think that he's,
the smart move on his part is not to go.
Oh my gosh.
That was, I mean, that's by far the smartest move ever.
I mean, he's, he's.
They were definitely looking for him.
And he's living like a king.
Well, my question is, did he not go because, A, he's got a plan,
he'll never get that back.
B, he's living like a king, or C, he doesn't want to go back.
Yeah, I mean, even if he doesn't have a plan,
and even if he's giving up his allegiance to Rick,
the smartest thing for him to do is just,
don't be taking me.
I don't want to break out here.
His whole character is about staying alive.
Yeah.
From the beginning.
You could tell he was enjoying it, though.
That's what seemed it made us.
And the whole walkie-talkie thing, like,
this is doctor, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
He's got the best dialogue.
Actually, he and Abraham always
at the best dialogue.
What's his face?
The guy that his right-hand man
has some good stuff, too.
Simon.
Yeah, Simon.
The guy who was talking with Gregory,
that's Simon?
Yeah.
That guy's such a douche.
He's really good.
He didn't know Simon's name?
I wasn't sure of his name, no.
I never remember anything.
I thought you knew everything about the walking day.
I didn't say, no, everything.
I just said, I'm a fan, and I read and I watch,
and I told him.
Everybody's name.
Somebody gave him a hard time about no notes,
and now he's pissed with the new guy.
DJs.
That's not bad.
All of a sudden he's going to, there's a new guy.
I'm going to pick on him.
Everybody knows that, Simon.
What was the name of the guy he called him to bring him tequila, that Asian guy?
He said his name.
Oh, yeah.
Gerald?
No, what was it?
Gerald.
Yeah, it was?
It was Aquafina or something, right?
It was Gerald.
Yeah.
Right now you're going, was it, General?
No, seriously, look there, because it was a weird thing, like Aquafina or, or, uh, or, uh, it was a quaffirna or,
I know he was Asian.
That's pretty much all I got.
Hang on why I doogle.
Asian guy who brings Gregory tequila.
His name was...
His name was Coquina No.
His name was Coquina No. That's neat, man.
Blent 2.0. We named him.
Bring an Asian.
They get tax credits for that.
Asian date. No, that's not it.
I'm surprised actually there's some links that...
Asian guy's separate group of Justin.
Nope, that's not the link either.
The Asian guys stuck together.
Whoa, oh, look at this picture.
All right, and then, you know, while you're doing that, while you're doing that, let's talk a little bit about, again, let's get back to Rosita and Sasha, as they end up in the building close to the main entrance of Negan's camp.
It just happens to be nobody ever goes there, nobody ever looks into the open windows where they've got a rifle sticking out of, just happens to have a bench that sits underneath the windows.
so the two short girls can reach the window,
and then we're just going to sit there and cry
and then teach each other how to make knots.
I think, yeah, well, the notch thing didn't make any sense.
I was like, is she building something, or is she bored or is she bored or?
No, but, I mean, to go along to your point to where it was just a little bit too perfect.
It was way too bad.
But I think that that's one of the things that's going to actually spell the downfall for their doom, really,
because they're way overconfident.
They don't think someone's going to travel that distance and then go and trying to meet.
Oh, you mean the saviors?
The saviors, yeah.
I just think they're way overconfident.
Yeah.
They most definitely are.
They are that.
So that doesn't surprise me.
But also, like, when she, would she put a bike lock on?
Like, she just happened to have a bike lock?
How does she lock the gate after they cut it open?
Oh, right.
So she wouldn't let Rosita in.
And then, um...
I didn't catch how she actually locked.
She looked like a bike lock.
She's just locking it up again.
You don't carry a bike lock around?
In the apocalypse, exactly.
I've got a bag on the bike.
That's why you're already a walker.
Got you got your,
water bottom got your bike lock
so at the end
I caught the end it was the shadow
it looked like
Darrell the world thinks it's terrible
it's not but we
Dwight is that is that
is that you guys Dwight
I mean I know it's Dwight but how you know it's
Dwight where is it because
the mystery was built up so much
and the only you know what I'm saying like there's no reason
to shroud his face there
there's like no reason to have that
look at how he's standing
I mean uh
that's not Darrell no and the only
reason that you think it's there or
because at the crossbow and because at the end where he talked about
Sasha and yeah he asked about where they're gone
but this is actually could be where we have the turning point of
Dwight making a decision not to go against
Nekin and letting her go.
Not to go against you mean to go against Nagan?
Well yeah yeah I mean to go against it but he'll still be I'm just saying not
you know, not kill the person that's trying to kill meaghan.
This will be a really interesting conversation,
especially for what we know from the graphic novels,
graphic novels,
and where his allegiance is,
just the part he plays later on in the war.
This is huge.
Dwight?
This is really huge.
By the way,
I can't find the name of the Asian guy who,
and if you're listening to the podcast right now,
you're screaming at your radio.
Well, I found a lot of other things that are Asian online,
but none of them are.
You just look at your history.
Yeah, pretty much.
Yeah.
I found three dates.
But we want the guy's name.
What difference does it make?
You have to go to IMDB.
Oh, that's good point.
Are you seriously having Cal tell you where you have to go to get somebody's name?
Details.
It's all about the details.
Hold on.
Now watch what happens next.
Watch what happens next.
See, now Cal will find it.
And I don't have to do the work.
Is that what you invited me?
I have a Chuck.
I have a Chuck.
So Cal is like, Chuck.
If you don't have a right-hand man.
Two?
You have a whole lot of work.
Exactly.
Cal is Chuck squared.
Chuck squared.
Chuck squared.
Chuck is Brad, Simon.
Uh, Ted.
Yeah.
I need a Simon bad.
Uh,
All right, so you have two more episodes left.
It looked like the preview.
They're going to the LGBTQ island to get the guns.
Finally.
I know.
About time.
We still...
Wait a minute.
What made you say that?
I don't know.
The preview?
I didn't see the preview.
yeah it's pretty specific it shows them running through the ocean side compound so you think
you think they're gonna be nice about it this wasn't in the obviously wasn't in the uh
book so no no are they gonna be nice about it or are they gonna just go in there and
like I gotta try to plead them listen we we don't want to hurt you we just need the guns what
do you think they're gonna handle this it's a good question but I'm still concerned about
Brad it's a good question because it's like that moral dilemma is pretty like she brought
it up do they deserve to die because we want to live you know and they absolutely
deserve to die because they want to live and there's no way that those LGBT
LGBTQ women except
LGBT
Exactly
There's no men
Well that doesn't mean
They're all LGBT
They're all the men are
They're all of a sudden
They're all of a sudden
They're not
They're not
Did you see how they were dressed?
They look like a bunch of hippies
And like hemp
I wouldn't say they're all
Thank you
And that means
LGBTQIA island
Bisexual
Thank you
All right
He's not listed
All right
He's not listed
and the credits.
He's got to be listed.
He's not.
He didn't say anything,
so he has no speaking roll.
Yeah, he's in under five.
He's right.
He didn't say anything?
You're right.
You guys gave me busy work, didn't you?
That was just to get me over here looking for stuff.
We knew you didn't take any notes.
I had it all.
Honestly,
watch the preview.
How many notes did you need on this episode?
There were six scenes.
That's kind of a good point.
That's a really good point.
I apologize.
Training the hilltop people with the V.
Oh, yeah.
That was cheesy.
That was so.
I am the whole thing was I kept expecting them to see them all like in ninja uniforms or
something like that you know right hard hard that scene out of army of darkness oh
that's what Maggie said right Maggie said that what we need is armor and
armor wear yeah okay we need some armor yeah yeah stop yeah were you not okay
okay when they were doing the training were you not doing this and you were to go hey
to see I was I was doing something with my hand but that wasn't it
TMI, TMI.
That's a quick slide.
Did they teach you that in the military?
The whoom, foon, fom, whom.
I believe that's exactly what they call it, too, Jason.
The hoom, whom, boom, whom.
They didn't teach you that?
They didn't teach you that one?
You say that specifically, yeah.
Yeah, I do it.
It's slash slash stab.
So it wasn't going to happen for two episodes.
I know, right?
So we go, so this, and thank you,
because that's where I was headed.
So next week, we go to LGBTQIA Island,
and we get the weapons,
and we're going to be dealing with that the whole time, right?
maybe we see Sasha get killed, hopefully,
in the beginning or something
where she's running through the...
What's that?
Tell us how you really feel.
I'm sick of her.
I don't think we'll get to Dwight and all that.
I just don't, because this show's been incapable
of doing multiple plot lines this season.
It's all just one long plot line.
Before they used to skipper around.
They showed Negan in the preview
walking into the room with...
They showed Negan and somebody else
walking into the room with somebody,
like the camera looking up at them.
So Sasha's clearly on the floor
or they have her.
For the preview?
In the preview they showed that.
Interesting.
So are we not getting LGBTQ?
No, we'll get that too.
They'll get both.
They gave you two plots.
I'll see it.
I'll believe it when I see it.
Two groups they've introduced that aren't in the novels,
which is the LGBTQ island and those kind of whisper people?
Yeah, the trash.
You think they're going to cut off the whispers and this is kind of like the whispers?
They're going to get to fight with these people?
They're kind of like whispers.
No, they better not.
But the trash dump people are still on our side.
Right now.
But they're just, it's just out of convenience.
I see it turning sour later on.
Side we are
year on.
Guns you bring us.
Possible use us, we too.
Enough not.
Right.
Go to the up up.
Oh, can I tell you?
Okay, the reason that I found out why they talk like that.
Did I tell you this?
Oh, you see this?
Yes.
It was about the economy of conversation.
They were, they found a way
to communicate using just,
and as few words as possible,
thereby attracting less Walker attention.
Who said this?
It was on the internet.
That's incredible story.
It's got to be true.
So it's the hand signals and guns you bring us.
That way you go out and get us more guns
and bring them to us because by then,
it's kind of like being on the third match when you're in war.
Don't ever be on the third.
Don't never be on the third match.
Of course you know that, right?
Of course.
No, seriously, you don't.
I knew you wouldn't because that's why I say it like that.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Really?
Don't ever be on a third match?
It's from the World War I of World War II.
Yeah. Okay.
Because in World War II, they gave everybody in their pack had cigarettes and a lighter and a Zippo.
Right?
I mean, that's what they had.
That's what they were given.
And so even with the matches if the Zippo was out, but you never want to be the third match.
Lighting a cigarette.
If you're in a foxhole and you smoke a cigarette and you're all smoking a cigarette, you light the match.
Right?
And so the guy, the sniper, sees the match lit.
Oh, okay.
He lights the first cigarette.
he goes, takes a little bit.
See that second one, takes aim.
Third one, boom.
Never want to be the third match.
But you know what they always reminded me of?
Thank you. See, I'm impressed.
Did you?
You guys want to see Mad Max beyond that?
Did I just? I saw him.
And Mad Max comes to that whole girl.
Those kids, that's what those kids remind me of.
They act the same way.
They kind of talk the same way.
Yes.
I just thought that some fan was paying tribute to like Mad Max or something like that.
Oh, that's possible.
That's just what I thought.
I just, I'm curious as to why, what's the,
the showrunners
train of thought, why introduce
these unknown groups into it?
Is it just to build an army?
Just to be different.
They want to be able to say we're following
the plot line, but we're different.
Right. It's the whole reason Michone is
there now, not Andrea.
It's just to make it different enough to make
for people like you... It would be a shame if something
happened to her next week.
Oh yeah, so yeah, what's your take, Cal on the whole
Rick and Michone romance?
It seems a bit forced.
if I...
Yes.
He's a keeper, everybody.
Zero chemistry.
You just ask the initiation.
There's really no chemistry there.
But I get why they're doing it.
You know, they have to build a relationship there, and then there's tension.
It's because she's black, isn't it?
What, that they got together?
Yeah.
Or they picked her because she's black?
No, they're having to force it because they need the interracial tension.
You think they're doing it specifically for the interracial thing?
I mean, we've got a couple gay people already.
We've just like to check it off the boxes.
We've had two gay men.
two gay men, we've had two gay men
or three actually because what's his face
license plate boy had his boyfriend
so there's two and then
we got Jesus. Aaron and his
then we got Jesus yeah and an entire
island for crying out loud of the entire
LGBTQIA island
and then we had the doc and what's your face
and Doc and Tara all hug
and by the way Tara I don't know
what Tara is doing but she's sneaking a little food
I know Negan was pregnant
in real life
oh we talked about this and the fact
that when they were editing that show,
don't you know they took the scenes
where she was running
and slowed them down.
I know, and I gotta tell you nothing.
If you're gonna give me your little,
and she was pregnant.
That's why she's bad.
And she was made in mid-night.
Why else does she gain weight?
I know that.
So what are you trying to say?
What I'm saying is that here, Tara,
we're paying you quite a bit of money
to be a character, lose some freaking weight.
But while she's pregnant,
we can't say anything about that.
Because the woman was pregnant.
I'm just trying to tell you what she's just gained weight.
That she has to lose weight.
They should have,
electronically, of course,
taken Tara's head, put it on Maggie's body,
and switched them because then it would have been
believable that Maggie's pregnant.
Yeah, because Maggie's been pregnant for eight years now,
still as it's showing.
Right. And Tara...
They don't have the budget to show the tiger
in more than one episode this season.
What is going on?
I know.
You'd think they would.
It seems like they don't.
You're right.
I think you had like two episodes that they get.
Yeah.
I heard that...
Didn't they actually use an animatronic tiger last time?
Oh, I don't know.
That's one way to do it.
And last week, no, that was C.G.
That's because they spent all the money on the set that I sent you the link to
that if you could have read the link instead of doing your whole little national radio program.
Oh, the Helltop said?
Hey, more important than your link to your podcast, which brings the money into this place.
Why don't you like put your attention to the money here?
Oh, this podcast pulls in millions of dollars.
Really?
Wow.
Can't you tell?
I was going to say, it's not going to the set.
Where's it going?
The Negan lamp?
Chicks of New York paying top dollar for this bad boy.
Is that real barbed wire by the way in the lamp?
Yes.
Don't feel it though.
Okay.
I don't want you to cut yourself.
Right, right.
Speaking of CJ, you guys might have already commented on this,
but what was it, one or two episodes where Rick was on top,
you know, they found the guns and they're like, they, in that carnival or whatever.
Yeah.
That deer, look, God, awfully, horribly fake.
I didn't notice that.
He didn't notice.
He got up on the top to kill the deer.
and it looked like it didn't even belong there.
Yeah, it's actually, you can always tell with the shadows.
I've been in television for a while, Jeffrey.
And before I got here, as you know,
details are crazy.
But yeah, you always look for the shadows
and you can tell us something as CGI.
Because you see, in CGI,
an actual electronic image doesn't make a shadow.
So that would be the problem where there's no shadow.
You're welcome.
I'm surprised they didn't know to think of this
and just add in a visual shadow.
It looked horrible.
They didn't ask me!
If they had, there'd have been a shadow.
So what you're saying, Brad, is that the people working on this, I don't know, number one cable show across?
It's a little cable show.
Yeah, that's exactly, the little cable show.
Didn't think about adding the digital shadow.
In post-production.
Digital shadows are very expensive.
But actually, I will say that in Brad's defense, the shot when they were on the up-up was the worst CGI shot ever.
They're going on the, yeah.
And the plane is in the back on them.
Thank you.
They couldn't even wash out the student planes.
So, I mean, it's bad.
So I'll give you that. I don't know what they're doing.
Maybe they're, you know, maybe they're getting cocky.
It doesn't matter what they do.
We're still the walking dead.
We can do whatever we want.
Do birds exist in the world there, right?
Yeah.
Where are they?
You never hear crackles.
No, because we only see them once in a while, right?
Because they only show because most of them are dead, right?
It's all the little animals and the meat and stuff.
I mean, the walkers eat them.
How do they eat birds?
They fly up and catch them.
Walkers can fly?
Yes.
I missed that episode.
You can tell it's a bad episode
when we literally start talking about the animals.
You don't see the show the morning.
That's a good point.
All right, let's wrap this bad boy up.
So what happens next week?
Next week we go to LGBTQIA Island.
Yeah.
And we have Megan.
What's that?
You think is that going to be nice or not nice to take their guns?
I don't think that the, I think a few of the younger people
and like the ones that helped
what's your face, Tara, will go with them.
And the older people will not
because they get won.
We finally have to figure out what the heck that key card goes.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So what did the key card say on it?
It was three P's, right?
Details on coming.
Right?
And where did they take Rick to see the whole place?
They took them to the...
Hello?
Up, up.
Up, up.
What's in up, up, up?
Three peas.
It's very thin.
It's a key card to the secret room underneath the up-up-up.
That's the thinnest stretch.
What's your theory, Sean?
Who's pissed now?
To the army.
To the armory.
At least I have a theory.
They still have working key cars on electronic lots.
They have electricity.
They had electricity, that didn't they?
I can't remember.
I think it was a candlelight or was a, I don't remember.
It's either to the armory or it's a savior.
One of the saviors dropped it or something like that,
and that's how they're going to get into the facility later.
That's the only two things I can think of.
The up, up, up, up, p's backwards.
Wow.
It's not backwards.
Not backwards.
Not backwards.
The U, you, you.
That's all.
I mean, if you're going to put something on a key card,
you'd rather have PPP than you, you, you.
Right, right.
Sure.
And I just want to say that I'm proud of everyone.
Maybe it is up, up, up.
It's just that we didn't see the U's because they've been worn back.
Will you use.
Where's Carl and all this?
He's been absent.
He's been absent.
He's applying for colleges right now.
He's going to puberty, I'm upset.
Yeah, I mean, he's been absente.
He's been back home just watching the kid, right?
He's been back in Alexandria, just watching the kid.
Who else is back there with him?
The rest of Alexandria.
I mean, like, of the original crew, Rick.
The boyfriend, the boyfriend who only,
Aaron's boyfriend who only shows up when it's time to give Aaron a verbal beating.
Right.
You're hanging out with all those guys.
He doesn't sound like that.
You've been back here for two days.
I'm just tired of having to take care of you.
All I do is clean his house.
Don't go out anymore.
You never let me out.
People make fun of me.
It is.
It is a soap opera.
It's turning into something.
By the way, word has it that Aaron and Jesus have a thing later.
Seriously?
No.
Just throwing.
You, okay?
Remember what time is?
Whatever time it is?
What's your theory?
He's pissed again.
Today, March 20th, Brad said, Aaron and Jesus have a thing later on.
You watch me.
And by the way, no one mentioned at all Enid's, melons, or cucumbers.
Yeah, what was the...
Is that a...
No.
She's trying to make an innuendo.
No, she was carrying a basket for...
Melons and cucumbers.
And happen...
Right.
She was trying to get the guy's attention so that he wouldn't go down and see Maggie.
But the thing is that that guy didn't know, you know, that guy knew nothing of her.
Like, you know, if she, which is actually.
Cal's right.
I was making.
Kind of bodes well to her being a snitch to Negan.
Is that she's only reports to a couple of people.
But one of the very first scenes was she was giving Maggie food.
So I was like, I know.
I thought the same thing too.
Don't eat it.
Wait, wait, wait.
Don't eat it.
You said you think Enid was working for Negan?
Oh, yeah.
That's a long-wing theory.
That's my theory.
What?
What?
working theory.
No way.
No way.
Come on, Sean.
What are you going to say, Sean?
The scene when Maggie sold a knife on the guy and on the Savior,
she looked at the knife and she knew it was Enid's knife and she had a squint.
And she didn't squint to say, hey, I'm going to go out there and attack him for her.
So she's probably questioned Ian as well right now.
That's a great point.
I think you're looking way too far.
But no, so.
No, because.
A quick look quick.
Our theory was when she first got sick and then, remember that night where the Savior's first got them,
she brought her something, some kind of food.
Was it pickles?
Was it pickles or something?
Okay.
And then that's when she had the stomach pains.
You think she poisoned her?
Because we were like, because it was all too set up.
Like they knew that they were going to come out that night.
So we were like, I wonder if Edith was the one that poisoned her.
This was like a plan.
And that's how they knew to have everything set up perfectly for when they came out.
And you guys are stretching there.
I'm not.
I don't know.
I will be shocked.
And I will give you praise and credit.
You'll have to give us credit.
Are you in on this too?
Enid's evil.
Really?
Thank you.
Yeah, she most definitely is evil.
If she turns out to be evil, I'm on the bad way.
In this episode, they're all in on
she trusts you so much.
Right.
Why are you over-emphasizing that?
She trust you.
Yes, Cal.
Explain that one.
I think you guys are dredsh in here.
I don't see this on all.
We'll show you.
I'm going back to Enid's melons and cucumbers.
I'm with him on the cucumbers and the melons.
Are they Ediths?
Either are.
Okay.
Because if they were...
Yeah, let's go back now.
Squirrels.
You don't see squirrels either, you know?
This is bull-grabbed.
Turtles.
You do.
I mean, Daryl goes out and hunts every once in a while, right?
I mean, that's why it was such a good deal, as long as we're on this real quickly, Jason, just for you.
I mean, that's why it was such a big deal when they got held up by the pack of dogs, right?
because they were like food there.
Remember when the dogs came
and then they ended up shooting them all
because that's what we're eating.
Can you eat Walker dogs?
They did.
That's they're funny.
They don't get infected.
The dog, they're infected.
Did you ever see...
Were they just rabid?
Did you ever see a Walker dog?
I thought they would do.
Oof!
Did that.
I guess they were just rabid.
The great news is you can outrun a Walker dog
because they go the same pace.
That's true.
And parts of them fall off.
But the best line that Daryl ever had was when, remember the, was it the possum in the cupboard?
He opens up the cupboard.
He goes, hello lunch.
Yeah, there was another great lie too about, I got to look at my Twitter feed, which you can follow at Jeffie MRA, by the way.
Or at the place, Brad.
That's not mine.
No, at Jeffie MRA is my Twitter account.
Right, at the blaze, Brad's mine.
so the war
I think we're right though
they're going to start
the beginning of the actual battle
that's going to be the end of the show
they all show up at their doorstep
all of a sudden there's all
he's got the army
they show up the doorstep
and it ends right there
yeah something like that
they cannot
you mean the whole season
this season
they've got to have fire a few
I hope so but I don't think so
that's how they ended last season
with the you know the bat
That's true
That's exactly something they would do
Sure is
I hate clippangers
Who invented those?
Oh wait
The lone ranger in the 50s
It's gone beyond
Cliffhangers
It really has started to go
Beyond cliffhangers
Like teasing and tricking the audience
That's what they're trying to do
That's what a cliffhanger is
No
Tricking is not a cliffhanger
It's like leaving you to a certain points
Build suspense and then leave you
Who shot J.R?
I don't consider that a cliffhanger
Oh that's a cliffhanger
What?
What?
What?
I mean, with mystery involved.
I forget.
Jason was like four when that came out.
No.
Not.
Yeah.
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Cal.
How did you see your last name again?
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