Chewing the Fat with Jeff Fisher - That Time Again… | 8/18/25

Episode Date: August 18, 2025

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With Amex Platinum, you have access to over 1,400 airport lounges worldwide. So your experience before takeoff is a taste of what's to come. That's the powerful backing of Amex. Conditions apply. Blaze Radio Network. And now, chewing the fat with Jeff Fisher. Coming to a country near you soon. A U.K. court has upheld a landmark ruling that calling a man,

bald in the workplace can qualify as sexual harassment. The case involved this Tony Finn. He's an electrician who worked for this British company for nearly 24 years, and he claimed he was harassed when a supervisor insulted him during a dispute, calling him a stupid bald seaword. Now, I would say that the stupid seaword had more to do with it than being bald, but I'm not a UK court. An employment tribunal ruled that baldness is inherently linked to sex, as hair loss is far more common in men.

Comparing the remark to making inappropriate comments about a woman's body, the tribunal concluded it was sex-based insult, not just general workplace banter. So the British company appealed, this British company that he worked for appealed, but the high court said, no, no, no, no, no, no. That's not going to happen. Targeting baldness is directly tied to a person's gender and falls under the Equality Act of 2010's harassment protections. And I love the 2010 UK's Equality Act. Man, who doesn't. Apparently, Finn will receive compensation, though reduced due to his own conduct, contributing to his dismissal. Yeah, it had nothing to do with him being bald.

it was with him being a stupid C word. But because he threw in, you're a stupid bald C word. And I hate having to say C word. Being coward? But you're a super stupid bald C word. Don't you dare call someone bald again, okay? Don't do it, not in any kind of reference,

because that is sexual harassment. welcome, well in the UK anyway, welcome the chewing the fat. I'd like to say hello to all the people waiting in airports in Canada. Hi, how you doing? If you're listening live, today is the 18th of August, 2025. And you know the date because you're waiting in the airport because Air Canada is on strike. At least 10,000 striking flight attendants defied the Canadian government. returned to work order and remained on picket lines.

So they were supposed to come back yesterday. Nope, not coming back. Sorry, sorry, and we're not really sorry. We're not coming back until you give us our demands. So, of course, what do they want? Well, they want wage increases, of course. And they want to be paid for time spent boarding and waiting for flights, not just hours spent in motion,

which is widespread in the industry. although I think some airlines have fixed that now. The airline offered workers a 25% bump in total compensation for the first year and 38% over the next four years, as well as pay for some time spent on the ground. Nope, not good enough. The union says the proposal still puts starting pay below the full-time federal minimum wage. Okay, if you say so.

So Air Canada has asked the government to appoint an arbitrator who would make binding decisions, but the union has urged Canada's Minister of Jobs, love them, and families, Patty Hajjup, to allow collective bargaining to continue. So they want everything. They want to have an arbitrator.

They want collective bargaining to continue. And for those of you stuck at the airport, sorry about it. They apparently are offering refunds, and they're allowing rebooking for a different date without a change fee. Isn't that special.

You can rebook it without a change fee. It's our employees on strike, but you don't worry about it, okay? Yeah, the waiting, they're getting paid online. I think some airlines have already fixed that because, as they said,

they would get paid for time spent in the air. But the time for, you know, taking care of customers, disembarking the plane, taking care of customers, boarding the plane, that's all, that's all,

Grades. Not really grottis, because they're getting paid pretty good wage, but not good enough just to be in the air. So they should be paid for that. I do agree with that. They're working. That's their job.

They're working. You're working when you, once you start walking down that gateway to the plane, you're working. In fact, really, once you start walking through the airport, you're working. Because everybody isn't going, oh, I wonder what those people do. No, they're flight attendants,

and you know damn well what they're doing. And they're on their way to probably your flight. So be nice to them. So I would absolutely say that once you get to the airport, you're working. You should be getting paid for that 100%. Agreed. And you should get paid until everyone has left the plane

until you walk down the gangplank. You should be getting paid for that 100%. That's a pretty fair argument by them. And this doesn't surprise me. Tech executives beefed up their security. in a big way last year. That does not surprise me at all. I'm sure all executives across all companies beefed up their security.

You know, just when, you know, when you see a CEO of a company get gunned down on the street of New York, you may think to yourself, you know, maybe I need to up my security. So according to this, the financial times, 10 major tech companies spent more than $45 million combined to protect their CEOs. This was in 2024 last year. The amount was at least 10% higher than in 2023, so really not that bad. The Financial Times quoted a security company founder who said, why not just tell me who the founder was,

people are fixating on the leader of a company as the representation of all that is wrong with the world. Yeah, that's for sure. So about 60% of the 2024 total was spent on just one executive and his family. and I'll give you three guesses and the first two don't count. Yep, you're right. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg, whose protection budget topped $27 million. Some of Zuck's concerned seemed kind of specific.

Yeah, no kidding. I mean, he's got AI projects. He's poaching employees from other tech firms. He's got people pissed off at him in Hawaii about his ranch. He better have some good security. Plus he's Mark Zuckerberg. You know, just Mark Zuckerberg alone. He knows that people just want to punch him in the face.

He knows that. So you've got to have security if you're stuck. You have to. I don't blame him for that. I don't blame it. At 27 million, I mean, to you and me, that's a lot of money. To Mark Zuckerberg, he spits at 27 million, okay? Spits at it.

So, I mean, for his safety, well worth the money spent. And that's, you know what? I know. It seems unlikely that you'd have to spend that amount of money on security, but he's Mark Zuckerberg. And I've seen, you know, for years, Dingleberry down the hall here, Glenn Beck had security, I mean, he still does.

But at one time when his life was being threatened, every day, multiple times a day, security was pretty heavy. And, I mean, he didn't travel anywhere late. He still doesn't travel. white, but he travels lighter than he used to. Because now instead of, you know, 10 people, I'm telling, I can't tell inside secrets. I can't, I can't do it.

Just know that he doesn't travel as heavy as he used to travel. But he's still traveling heavy, okay? Still traveling heavy, but he's not traveling, you know, as heavy is. He's not traveling Donald Trump heavy, okay? Not anymore. And, you know, speaking to Donald Trump and security, I still can't get over the meeting in Alaska on Friday. It was the most badassery move of Donald Trump

to be walking down that red carpet after he'd already met Putin on the tarmac, and they're walking up to the stage for the photo op, and here come the military jets and the stealth bomber, over them perfectly timed. I would like to know. I hope someone asked Trump what he said to Putin.

I don't know if he'll ever tell us, but it would be great when you see him lean and they lean in each other, he's just like, I got a lot more of those, pal. No, he did not say that. No, I got a lot more of those.

And he may have said, you know, without those jets, you wouldn't hurt that stealth. you'd already been dead, my friend. So let's go up to the stage here. I just love it. That's a serious security right there.

If you're Donald Trump, that's security. So let's say you're tired of having to foot the bill for so much security, and you're just sick of having to spend the money on security 24-7 and just seeing the same people at the same time every night protecting you and you're tired of it. And you want to move someplace where you don't. need as much security. Well, you're going to need a good real estate agent to help you out with that, aren't you? Yeah, I'm afraid you are. And you might as well go to real estate agents.

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You want someone who knows what they're doing. And that's where real estate agents I trust comes in. So if you, like many people, are just tired of having to have security all the time and want to move someplace better, and you're looking for a house, you're going to need a real estate agent, and that's where real estate agents I trust comes in. Real estate agents, I trust.com. Real estate agents I trust, I mean, really,

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I want to congratulate Conan for being inducted into the Television Academy Hall of Fame. Congratulations to Conan. Yeah, go ahead and applaud. It's worth an applause. He's part of inducted into the Television Academy Hall of Fame, along Viola Davis, Don Meischer, Mr. Ryan Murphy, Mike Post, and Henry Winkler.

Henry was there too. Well deserved. Henry should have been in it a long time ago. It's embarrassing that Henry Winkler's not in the Television Academy Hall of Fame already, but I digress. But while accepting the honor, the comedian spoke of the role that late-night television has played in society. And he said, I've dabbled in some other things, but that's where I lived. Yeah, duh. And for those of you under 40, late-night television was a service designed to distract college students

until science would perfect the Internet and online pornography. and boy did they get it right. You wait in on the future of television? Yeah, they already got that. There's plenty of business going on at late night without late night television, you know, today with the internet. Yeah. And so he said, it's all electrifying new generation of viewers.

O'Brien pointed out before making his prediction. He said, yes, late night television, as we have known it, around since around 1950 is going to disappear. But those voices are not going anywhere. This is where Conan loses me. People like Stephen Colbert are too talented and too essential to go away. Are they? Are they?

Now maybe he has to play nice. I get it. He's got to play nice. And Stephen has been a fixer of late-night television for a while. That doesn't make him talented, okay? I'm sorry, no. But whatever. So additionally,

O'Brien addressed CBS ending the late show and his about Colbert's future. He went on to say that Stephen is going to evolve and shine brighter than ever in a new format that he controls completely. What is that a podcast? So technology can do whatever they want. It can make television a pill.

It can make television shows a high-protein, chewable, vanilla-flavored capsule with added fiber. It still won't matter. if the stories are good, if the performances are honest and inspired, if the people making it are brave and of goodwill. I don't disagree with that. I just disagree that that's Stephen Colbert. Okay, because that guy is not funny at all.

Period. I just agonizing. So anyway, congratulations to Conan for, you know, becoming a new member of the Television Academy Hall of Fame. No, really. Really. Oh, did you see weapons number one again at the theater? Week 2, number one again.

Congratulations. I guess I'm going to have to see it now. Then Freakier Friday was number two. Nobody 2 was number 3. I'm surprised that didn't do a little bit better. Odin Kirk's Suburban Assassins sequel. I really enjoyed the first one, although I think this one is more like a vacation.

Didn't we talk about this? Yeah, I think we did. We did talk about that. It's more of like a vacation movie. And, well, they are on vacation, Jeff. That's the point. No, I mean like the Chevy Chase vacation movies. And so maybe that was the...

I will see. We'll see. I will watch it. Fantastic 4. I was in fourth place still. Wow. Week 4. The bad guys, too.

That's in their third week. They're number 5. Superman's still hanging in there at number 6. And they just released that on streaming too. so yeah, gun was right, get it out. The naked gun was in seventh. That's only been out three weeks. That seems like it's been out forever,

and it's going nowhere. Jurassic World's still hanging in there at eighth. Jurassic World almost at a billion. 828 million, yeah. F1 is number nine. Where is F1 at now? 590 million. Yeah, Brad Pitt's got to be happy about that.

And number 10, Shin Godzilla. another Godzilla movie awesome that's what I love brings the classic back to a respectable specialty release okay Bonzai! Bonzai! Bonzai! Yeah, there you go, it's Godzilla still making the rounds in today's world.

So I ended up, but I did end up watching the end of the pickup with Eddie Murphy and BDM and it's not BDM, it's BDE. Pete Davidson. And so I ended up watching I stopped it. I talked last week.

I watched about first half of the night. I'm not done with it. That's boring. And then I went back to it and I finished it this weekend. It was okay. It was okay. The last half was chase scenes

and blowing up things. And it was fun. It was fun. It was fun. That was fine. Just leave me alone. It was fun. I did see where the Skydance

led studio is getting more specific about its plans. So at an LA press conference, they revealed key parts of their strategy that break from industry convention. Okay? Theatrical only for movies. Huh.

Open doors for streaming TV. Interesting. So the movie strategy for Skydance is no streaming films. Streaming chief Cindy Holland stated bluntly made for streaming movies are not a priority for me. The theatrical ramp-up is the goal, with Paramount aiming for a slate of 15 films ASAP, then 20 movies annually. Big dreams.

Priorities include Top Gun 3 and the new Star Trek projects, plus original films just acquired by Timothy Charlemais and James Mangold, the Biker Heist movie Highside. Okay. And apparently, the co-chair, Dana Goldberg, challenged reporters to name one live action streaming film that's had a real cultural impact.

That's a good question. That's a really good question. So the streaming strategy on the other side of that, Skydance and Paramount Plus, is all of Paramount Plus original series have come from its own production unit. CBS, Showtime, MTV, Nickelodeon. But they will now,

they will now start buying some third parties to get the best content. So the Duffer Brothers, the Stranger Things, they're looking to come back to Paramount from Netflix because it was what's her face Holland that's in charge of Skydance who

green lit stranger things when she was at Netflix and Holland's message is clear Paramount Plus wants bingeable TV shows not forgettable streaming movies so they are not a fan of these streaming movies like the one I just watched pick up because it's a good movie. Love Eddie Murphy

BDE is fine You know, he's okay, Pete Davidson And what's her face? The other co-star of that movie She'll get mad if I don't mention her Kiki Palmer I mean, it's embarrassing The way she looks at me

But you know, I have to mention it That she was a big part of the movie too I got it. Okay, sorry Kiki It's just doing you and me So anyway, Skydance of Paramount Plus Definitely changing some things up And it's interesting that

They do not want, I mean, the movie theaters are happy to hear that. The movie theaters are really happy to hear that. But that's been part of my plan also. I wish they would contact me because I'm telling you, go ahead and you want the theater release. Then you move it to streaming. It's just, oh my gosh, I just don't understand

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flip-through books. I know it was made for middle school kids. But I really like it. It's one of those books, I mean, I personally love because if you set it down, you just open it up and you start reading stuff. It's right there.

And anybody that comes into the house or your kids, most importantly, can open it up and just start looking through it. And then, I don't know, learning things, which is pretty awesome.

So I had the opportunity to talk to Dylan Thuris and Jennifer Swanson, who wrote this book and put this book together. And they, you know, they put 50 of the, the planet's interesting inventions and scientific discoveries.

Now, I was talking to them prior to what you're going to hear in this interview, and we were laughing because I found out that they have never met in person. They've only met online and, you know, obviously video and FaceTime and, you know, audio talk, but never never in person. It's really fascinating. And I had talked to them about, you know, what you really need, really. I mean, as humans, what do we need? talk about we need we need fire to live uh we need to be able to travel and we need to have

food right i mean hello we need to we need to fire we need food and we need to be able to travel around the globe and those are the the things that i think are most important to human survival and that's when i hit the record button and uh so you know so the book starts with with fire starts with kind of the er invention and then it takes people on a journey not just all around the world to these different places having to do with discoveries and invention, but like on a chain through the technology. So once you have fire, you can make glass. And once you have glass, you can make lenses.

Once you have lenses, you can make telescopes and microscopes and microscopes help you discover microbes. And so, you know, it's a way to show kids, but also adults, how interconnected all this stuff is. It absolutely is. And one of my favorite parts, as I was going through it, is maps. But that really helped, that really helped humans, you know, obviously discover the planet. But, you know, actually be able to discover the planet and then go back where they came from and go back again. You know, it's really fascinating.

This isn't really in the book, but also the diversity of what maps can be is fascinating. Yeah. in parts of, I think it's Polynesia, might be Micronesia, but these things, they're stick maps and they're these interwoven sticks that you would look at it and you wouldn't see a map. You see kind of sticks interestingly kind of all stuffed together. And what it actually is, it's a tide chart. It shows the wave swells at different areas between islands that people were navigating. So they'd bring this little chart with him to kind of know, okay, we go this way,

we're going to get stuck going around and around. But we go, don't go that. We have, you know, there's a map in the book. We go from satellites. We get all the way to satellites. And then we basically say, okay, GPS satellites are great. But knowing where you are in the world is only as useful as the set of maps underlying that. Yeah.

It doesn't matter if you know you're there, if you don't know what else is around you. So maps bring you back in time. And then once you've got maps, you during seafaring and all kinds of stuff. So it's good. Exactly. So when you two were putting this book together, and obviously you were not together, which I found fascinating, because that was all ready for the big fight. Because I'd like to know, you did you spend hours together on Zoom, or were you just typing back and forth in email fighting saying, no, I want this? No, you don't get to do that.

I'm doing it was way more like, it was a lot of emailing back and forth and Zoom. It was way more like, what if we did this? We could also do this. I've got this cool fact. I want to put the fact in. And, you know, the part, the thing about the book is, like, each of these paragraphs are only 150 to 175 words, which when you're talking about technology, like fusion, energy. Or quantum. Yeah, quantum.

That was really the one we went back and forth, you know. But they're like little snapshots, kind of fun facts about this thing because we wanted to leave enough room for the gorgeous, like, you know. illustrations that our illustrator, Ruthen, Dresden did. So that's kind of more of what we were doing. Dylan would add words. And I'd be like, no, that's too many. He wants to take out this word. And then he's like, okay, but this word has to go.

There was a courtie. And it was kind of, but we got to get this in, but we got to get it down. And it went 50. You take out these words. We're like, no, these are the words that are. Absolutely not. Those must say, you can't change that word because it changes the whole meaning. It's 2025.

It's 2025. You got to make it short and sweet. You see what the fact is. And then we're moving on. Let's go. have to do that, absolutely. So do, all right, so Jennifer, your favorite portion of the book is. Oh, my gosh, there's so many. I mean, I love robots, but let me just say one of the coolest things that I learned, and I've talked about this before, is when they were creating the internet,

they had these, the packet van radio. So they had like the ARP in it, but they were testing like the wireless ability. So people with computers would get in a van and just drive around California and kind of like, you know, pull into, I don't know, like say McDonald's or one of these, you know, kind of like where they could have lunches. And they would test out the wireless ability for the connections to make a network for the internet. But I was like, that is the coolest thing. also the most basic of technology. You're in a van and you're testing this really super cool technology that will eventually change the world.

At the time, no one knows. Right. And at the time, no one knows what you're doing. What are you going to run your stupid van. Right? I mean, it's my mother-in-law worked for Motorola. And she's always talked about, and that was, you know, 100 years ago now, talked about how she set up, you know,

world leaders had multiple cars in their, in their parade of cars for all their due people. And they always wanted to talk to all the cars at once or cars separately. Okay. And that's just technology that, I mean, we'd take for granted now. What did they have to do? Like, pull over and, like, wave anything? Yes, that's exactly what they did.

Yeah, they pulled over and they did smoke signals outside the roof of the car. And that's how they came before flags, right? So, okay, so, Dylan. All right, I'm going to do a speed, I'm going to do a speed run for you. I could choose so many sections. There are. Let's start with ancient renewables, which includes, you know, woodmills and water wheels, right? These are technologies for generating power.

It's renewable energy before renewable energy, right? So you go from ancient renewals and, you know, water wheels are basically early pumps. They're a way of moving water from one place to another. So you use your water wheels to pumps. Pumps don't sound exciting, boring technology, except, A, there's a pump in every internal combustion engine, pumps are refrigerators. Heat pumps are obviously pumps. They literally pumps, right? And our hearts are a pile.

A million things actually turn out to be pumps, including, of course, the steam engine is a pump. That's literally what it started as. It started as a way to pump water out of mines. So you go from pumps to steam engines. And we talk about the oldest, the Smethwick engine, which is the oldest working steam. engine in the world, which moved waters and canals in England for both then. The Smekwick engine. Smethwick. Smethwick. Smethwick engine. You go to trains. You know, you got your old steam trains, but you also talk about Meglevs because they're just cool and they're in the

train section. But once you get trains, you know, you hit this in early industrial revolution stuff. So you get this thing where you get the steam engine and it's a pump so it can pump the water out of the mine so you can get the coal out of the mine so you can pass for the engine. And you can make the steel to build the tracks for the train, yada, yada, yada. Once you get mines, you start mining things like the ingredients for gunpowder, which is an older technology, but you know, you do need a bunch of stuff out of the ground. Gunpowder, interestingly invented as an elixir of life. That was the original idea of gunpowder and then used in fireworks early in China.

Gunpowder actually powers the very first ever theoretical internal combustion engine. unclear if it was actually built, but it was called the explosion engine. Imagine in the 1600s, you blow up gunpowder, and it moves a piston. It moves a product, yeah. That's how a damn engine works, you know? So you go internal, go from gunpowder to internal combustion engines to airplanes, to rockets, to satellites, and here we are at Maps. That's a little run.

Right. It's my favorite. I know. I love that. I know. My favorite is the Maps. I'm a huge fan of Maps on the globe and traveling around. And really, with the Industrial Revolution that, I mean, we,

we will that made travel anywhere possible and that was really I mean without obviously without I realize that you can see fair across the ocean and yes that's how we all got here I got it but it made it possible for yeah train train train travel made it possible for anyone to travel anywhere they wanted it was awesome yeah yeah yeah and I think we're in a we're in a kind of electrical revolution right now. I think we're in another one of these moments where you get a clustering of technologies, batteries, small DC electric DC motors, solar power, all, you know, and computer chips able to control sort of, you know, basically a drone and a cell phone and an EV. These are the same things. Yes, they're not. They're basically the same damn thing. Like,

it's a cell phone on wheels. It's a cell phone with, with, with motors, like these are very similar. And so we're in this interesting moment where we're seeing another kind of technological clustering effect where these technologies all add up together to a much larger change. So that'll be an interesting thing to live through. We're going to live through one of these major technological shifts. How much of the book is based as you get into, Jennifer mentioned it a little bit earlier about robotics.

You get into that a little bit. I mean, we are smack dab in the middle of having, I'm ready to have my Dubot take care of the house right now. Good luck. I think we got a long last mile on that. You remember driverless cars? Yes, they exist. Yes, they probably will come. But we've been talking about these things for 15 years.

Like, it's that last mile. I know. You know, it looks good in the demos, but then you're like, fold the laundry and the thing falls down the stairs. I know. And you never see. And the thing is the one thing that I want from my do bot, Dewey, is to what. wash the dishes and I never see the beauty wet. And then, by the way, how much

does it cost to buy? How much does it cost to power? Don't bring me down, Dillard. Don't bring me down. Do it. Do you for here. If you ever had an appliance, imagine one has 15 times more complicated than 20 times is expensive. And you start to say, well, I don't, this is

starting to sound. Anyway, so that's my skepticism. But, but, you know, yeah, we're going to go to a really, really interesting period. And we do. One of the things I like about our section on robotics is that we tie it back to much older technologies like automaton in the 1800s, these little mechanical robots. And still robots use a ton of mechanical engineering like that. You know, how do you make them actually move, not just a software piece? And then, you know, those automaton's clock go directly back to clockwork. I mean, they come right out of figuring out, oh, how do we make geared, you know, the first tickerons. The ticking clocks, basically. The tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. How do we do it? The scaperment, you know, so, yeah, I love sort of tying things that feel very modern back to their much older historical. I mean, that's where it all started, right? So we're talking to Dylan Thuris and Jennifer Swanson, who put together the Atlas of Secura Explorer's Guide to Inventing the World. All right, so we talk about some of your favorite things. Did you, did either one of you learn anything? Did you say? I mean, I know Jennifer's saying, I've got this fact.

We have to use this fact. But did you learn anything? But that's from the research. Okay. And so, you know, this is, I don't know, book number 51 or something for me. So I write a lot of them science books for kids. And for me, the coolest thing is doing the research. I learn so much.

And they're fun facts. And so my family knows them. because I'm like, oh, did you know this? Did you know this? You know, no, my kids are grown, but when they were younger, you know, a dinner table would be, oh, I learned this. And they're just like, okay, mom, like, aren't you supposed to be asking us what we learned at school today?

And I was like, no, this is way cooler. Yes. So they need to know this. Yeah, they get all of the fun facts. And I'm also like, if you are remotely into Jeopardy like I was for so many years, you know, this book is chock full of like little fun facts that you can astounderone. your friends, then I don't know, maybe you would go on Jeopardy of Witt, you never know, right?

Okay, so what's the favorite thing you learned? I'll do one that Jen taught me, which is I had almost mapped out the whole book, but I sort of, sometimes you hit a dead end with these things. You're kind of like, I don't know where to go from here, right? Because it's like, you don't want to get too ultra-specific, like, okay, and then here's the piece of a, you know, like engine that does what, you kind of want to stay

in a broad enough technical space. So I got to particle accelerators and I thought, you love particle accelerators. You can't get enough talk about particle accelerators. They're crazy. They're amazing. But where do you go from there in the kind of tech evolution? Like what's the kind of next thing? And Jen said, well, you know, particle accelerators and advanced physics more generally

is intimately tied with neuroscience. The PET scan, the MRI. I mean, the scan literally comes from particle accelerators. we still use particle accelerators to make the radio tracers that people take when they're getting the scans. You just have to tip in the radio. I don't think about that. Yeah. That's made in a particle accelerator.

It's crazy. Yeah. And then, you know, the MRI was a physics experiment that had to do with the spin of atoms before they realized, wait a second, not only can we look at stuff. We can look at people using this thing. Yeah. That's awesome. And I learned that because I got to visit Brook Haven Lab and I got to visit Sur. which is the Large Hadron Collider itself.

And so it was really cool to see how everybody thinks, oh, CERN, and, you know, it's really science up here. It's science that helps people, like, every day, right? Yeah, that's awesome. Science comes back down to everyday life. Well worth the read. Well worth the read. The Atlas Obscure Explorer's Guide to Inventing the World, Dylan Thurus, Jennifer Swanson. I appreciate your time.

And I hope many of our listeners enjoy the book as well. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Thanks for having us. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it. This episode is brought to you by Peloton.

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Who died today? Who died today? Well, let's begin with Tristan Rogers. Tristan Rogers dead at the age of 79. If you don't know the name Tristan Rogers, you know Robert Scorpio, because that was his name on General Hospital. He was there for, I don't know,

40 years, forever. Apparently, it was revealed in July that he had been diagnosed with cancer. Huh. What was it diagnosed with cancer in July? What could have caused that? Anyway, Tristan Rogers, dead at the age of 79. I mean, this guy, he was on General Hospital forever. Come and go.

I mean, I said 40 years. I'm sorry. 45 years. I mean, he was in and out. I think he's, I think he was killed off once and then they brought him back as somebody else. But I mean, I forget how that worked. Or maybe they thought he was dead.

I think that's the way. They thought he was dead, but he wasn't. And then he came back. I always loved those. He was from Australia, and then he came to America. And he got a job who was always about to work. He just said, I was trying to get a job. I was trying to, you know, get a job.

And they said, hey, come to general hospital and do this. and, you know, 45 years later, he's still doing the same gig. And now he said in an interview, I found interesting. I mean, he was part of the Luke and Laura wedding that still remains, I think, the highest rated soap opera episode ever. I mean, 30 million people at Luke and Laura wedding. I mean, the world was watching Luke and Laura get married. But he talked in an interview once, not too long ago,

that said, you know, obviously the character will follow him to his grave. Yeah. But he was talking about how soaps are dead now. And he said, this was, wow, this was in 2011. Not a genre that will be around in another 50 years. It isn't necessary. They have made their mark in almost every type of medium owes something to the way. He went on to say, this is not a genre that will be around for another 50 years.

In many respects, it isn't necessary. they've made their mark in almost every type of medium medium mED i um not difficult to say jeff medium owes something to the way the soaps have been put together whether they want to admit it or not but he didn't believe it would be around for another 50 years so now we have that was in 2011 oof so i mean they don't have many less than 50 now the countdown is on so rest and peace to tristan rogers dead at the age of 79. Then we have Terence Stamp.

Terence Stamp. You know him as General Zod in Superman dead at the age of 87. I know. I know. English-born Terrence Stamp who I mean he was in all kinds of movies, the collector

and then he hit a big with the Superman stuff. And he had this huge body of work. Anyway, he's dead at the age of 87. It did not say what the cause of death was for my man. But I mean, he was in Smallville too. I mean, I was in those were, I was forced to watch that. There was people in my home that love that Smallville show. And so I was forced to watch it. Anyway, rest in peace to my man, Terence Stamp dead at the age of 87. Then we have Michael Sloan, Michael Sloan, co-creator of the Equalizer,

and a longtime husband of Melissa Sue Anderson, dead at 78. I mean, Sloan was a writer and producer. He did a bunch of TV series, The Equalizer, and he met Melissa Sue Anderson on the set of Little House on the Prairie. And then when they met on the set, there was nothing but, Oh, yeah. And then they got married the next year. So he was born into show business.

I mean, his folks were, his grand folks were vaudeville performers and just, you know, really incredible. So, and his, I think it was his dad, his mom. One of them were part of the Broadway production of Wizard of Oz. I mean, he knew the business. And so then he, I mean, he wrote Quincy M.E. shows and Harry O. McLeod. Remember Harry O? That was David Jansen.

Great TV show at the time. Harry O. David Jansen. McLeod. Yes, McLeod. The Arizona Sheriff going to New York. Absolutely awesome. The Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew Mysteries. This guy wrote a ton of

stuff. So rest in peace to Michael Sloan dead at the age of 78. Then we have Lorna Raver. Raver, actress in Drag Me to Hell, dead at the age of 81. She was in all kinds of horror

stuff too. She, very sad. But she played this elderly woman in the one movie. Gosh, darn it, what was that stupid show? Anyway, it doesn't matter. I love the idea that she was

the star in Drag me to hell. And all. Oh yeah, she played the one time. One time she played the concentration camp survivor. She's played in soap operas too. I mean, really, she's done a lot of work.

So rest in peace to Lorna Raver. You know her from Drag Me to Hell. Dead at the age of 81. Speaking of Drag Me to Hell. Blaze TV just started a new a new Sunday Revival where we are going to have new episodes every week

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yeah we need to go out to there and go ahead and find our own diamond at the crater of Diamond State Park and so after dedication and hard work paid off for this 31 year old I'm a sheriff Fox of Manhattan. She wanted to find her own diamond for an engagement ranging. That's when her partner was supportive.

Yeah, I thought that too, until I went out there. And I brought the wife. I brought the kids. And you have to rent all this stuff. And you take the wagon out of the middle of the stupid field. And it's hot. And you've got to dig through dirt. And you're looking through.

You're straining it. And you're shaking it up. Oh, more dirt. More dirt. More dirt. And nobody finds a diamond. Okay. Then they say, well, wait until it rains.

After it rains, then that pushes the diamonds back up to the ground. Okay. Okay. And then ever so often, I get the stories. Somebody found this giant diamond. And I believe that it's a ruse. I personally believe that I personally believe that this is all just a ruse to make up. They just, so often somebody from the state park walks out

there tosses a diamond into the field and they you know then somebody finds it and oh look what i found and then the rest of people show up with rent all the equipment and buy all the equipment and they're just out there digging into dirt for nothing and then ever so often ever so often somebody walks by and goes just gives a little toss and they out there is i found a diamond i found one it's uh just i don't believe that's true that's just me that's just me i'm just telling you I was out there. It was agonizing. It was agonizing to be out there.

And there were people out there with the shade, with the little hat umbrella, and they're sifting through the dirt and digging. Did they find diamonds the day I was there? No is the answer. You want to know why? Because there were and are no diamonds. Ugh.

You have a better chance of hitting the lotto. And believe me, the Powerball tonight, $600 and to $5 million. Okay? Yeah, I know 273.4 million cash payout. Yes, please. Yes, I'm going to take care.

Okay. And then you have the mega million jackpot, which the drawing is what, tomorrow, Tuesday, the 9th of the 19th of August. That's for $216 million. Okay, fine. I'll take the 97.0 million cash payout,

but I would prefer. It's just me. I don't want to be greedy. but I would prefer the 273.4 million. I want just a million. I was looking at the drawing on Saturday night, okay? The Powerball drawing Saturday night. There was no jackpot winner. There was not a $2 million winner,

and there was not a million dollar winner. I just want one of those. I'm not greedy. Sure, am I going to turn down the 273. 0.4 million cash payout? No. But really, I'd be happy with the, Two million.

Be happy with the two million. And we'd be good to go. And I'm for sure the lottery isn't going to just wire me the money to my PayPal in a Jeffey's CDF. They're not going to do that at all. But I'm willing to accept it if they want to. No problem. I mean, I saw you could do anything to get some money. I saw where they busted this guy trying to smuggle turtles from the U.S. to China.

And remember, we busted someone last October up there in New York. York. I'm sorry, it was a western Vermont Lake. You're now up there. Northern New York. New York thinks Vermont is still as part of New York anyway. They're not, but I got it. But remember they busted that lady trying to smuggle 29 eastern box turtles across the lake into Canada

with a kayak. So they've got this guy at the airport, Wee-Quain of Brooklyn, who pleaded guilty in a federal district court for exporting more than 220 parcels containing around 850 Eastern box turtles and three-toed box turtles.

Yeah, I like those better. The three-toed box turtles. I know my favorite. So they had the turtles wrapped up in socks for the journey in the boxes. They said they were plastic animal toys. Nope. He said the market value 1.4 million.

I don't know that that's true. I don't know if that's true. He's getting $1.4 million for the Eastern Box turtles, but maybe, okay, sure. I mean, they pulled them out. There's pictures of the box with the turtles, so all right. Does he get a million dollars for those? Sure. Okay.

I guess they're prized features in domestic and foreign pet market in China and Hong Kong. So everybody wants an Eastern box turtle. I mean, for soup? or, you know, turtle wings? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. But according to this, they are protected by the Convention

of International Trade in endangered species of wild fauna and flora. You don't have to tell me that. I mean, I think we all knew that. And we're happy. We're happy that the Eastern box turtle

and the three-toed box turtle are covered by the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species of wild fauna and flora Are we not? Yes We are. Eleven parcels

filled with it. And then he also sent out some snakes and some other reptiles. So he was just shipping stuff to China left and right, man. I don't know if he worked with what's her face up there in Vermont or not. But this guy's out now. He's out as overrecha because I guess he could spend

years in prison, but he's out on, what do they say? He's out on supervised release. So he might spend some years in prison and have to pay a fine of 250,000. If he's selling box turtle for millions of dollars,

$250,000 seems a little low. But that's just me. That is just me. All right, let's get out of here. My gosh, I've babbled forever today. And I didn't even get to. There's so much to get to here on chewing the fat. I just, I'll be here tomorrow.

Download the show. Subscribe you. There's plenty of time. Plenty of time. So let's just get out of here with the joke of the day. Quick and easy one today. And we're talking about animals and smuggling reptiles and turtles and all that. I'll just give you an animal joke, okay?

All right. What do you call a snake that cleans windows? This joke is from Denny. What do you call a snake that cleans windows? windows. I don't know, Jeff. What do you call a snake that cleans windows? A windshield viper? See, because what he's... Now, you understand. Stream and subscribe to more Blaze Media content at theblaze.com slash podcasts.

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