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It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran.
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All right, guys, we know that we usually release podcast episodes on Monday. It is Sunday.
We did not feel like it was appropriate or right to put out a podcast based on pop culture topics
right now considering what's happening in the world. We can't sit here and pretend like we're
not seeing everything and just ignore the very important.
and serious issues that we need to talk about right now.
We want to have a real conversation with our listeners.
Fran and I, we're together right now,
which is, you know, we've had conversations together about this,
just trying to figure out ways that we can help,
we can help educate ourselves,
and we can just have a real conversation, like I said,
with you guys as our listeners,
and to bring awareness to what is happening.
Obviously, you have seen by now the news of the brutal murder of George Floyd,
who was killed in Minneapolis by police officer Derek Chauvin
and by three other police officers who witness this heinous act of racism
is what we should call it, because this guy, these humans, these police officers,
are absolutely disgusting.
The video that everyone,
has seen now of George Floyd being murdered with this man kneeling on his neck while he is
saying out loud, I can't breathe, I can't breathe. There's people filming saying, please stop.
He can't breathe. He's struggling. And this guy, this disgusting human being, you see the look
on his face and you can tell he doesn't care. He doesn't care at all. And it's truthfully
sickening, Fran, I'm sure you feel the same way when you saw that video.
you don't even know how to process it.
You think to yourself,
this is really how some people think in this world.
And it is, and it's disgusting.
And to give backstory as to why they were trying to arrest him in the first place
was because he allegedly was using a fake $20 bill.
Are you kidding me?
Yeah.
Forgery?
It's the,
the videos of them kneeling on him and then seeing other angles of four police officers kneeling on him,
pinning him to the ground. Why do you need four police officers to pin somebody to the ground
who is not resisting arrest, let alone one? He wasn't doing anything wrong. Yeah. It's heartbreaking.
It's incredibly sad. I know Ria and I are upset. We're sad. We're sad. We're sad.
we're frustrated.
And I think a lot of you guys feel the same way, which is why, as Ria said, it just
feels wrong to really talk about anything else.
This is so important to talk about.
It's the biggest thing that is going on right now.
And it's just, it's horrible.
It's absolutely inhumane, horrible.
You see this video and you think.
think even when these officers knew that they were on camera, knew that this was obviously going
to be posted places, and still did not care, is insane because of course they are horrible people.
It's like the way they act was terrible. And now that there is just a blatant disregard for
how this would come off, just shows where we are,
that this has now happened so many times,
and so many times justice has not been served,
that these police officers, it does not, it did not matter.
Right.
It's happened so many times.
And yes, this is not usually what we talk about,
but we see what's going on in the world.
This is, we pay attention.
We read, we see what's going on.
And it's impossible not to discuss it.
It's impossible to not have this conversation now.
I know everyone's seeing on social media a lot right now.
The phrase silence is betrayal.
And Rie and I just had this discussion between us.
We thought that this was extremely true.
How could we live with ourselves, knowing that we have,
a platform to discuss these things and not do it.
So this happened, we see this happen.
It's absolutely insanity.
Obviously, the officer Chauvin has been charged with third degree murder.
The three other officers have not.
There are protests going on across the entire country.
You're seeing all of this footage on social media on the news.
And it's heartbreaking, it's sad, it's tragic, but like we've reached the point where,
especially as white people, we do not have the right to dictate how these protests go forward.
Right.
Obviously, Fran and I acknowledge that we are both white, we are privileged, we will never fully
relate to the struggles that people of color face every single day. And I will never try to pretend
to relate to them or pretend to fully understand. But Fran and I will stand with everybody. We will
stand up for what is right. We will try to actively educate ourselves every single day and try to,
you know, what we're doing right now is try to bring awareness to you guys and to our listeners.
And like Fran said, use the platform so that we can talk about ways to help, the ways we can move forward, ways to actively be anti-racist and not just not racist.
That's something that, you know, a lot of people are sharing right now is, you know, it's not enough right now to just not be racist to just sit there and do nothing.
And like Fran said, you can't sit with yourself and be comfortable with the fact that you're not saying anything or at least that's how we feel.
It truly breaks our heart.
And what we need to do is, you know, as privileged people and white people, we need to listen to our allies, listen to people of color, trust them, respect them.
And truly, like I said, trust them when they tell us what they're going through, what they have been going through, what they fear every single day of their lives.
Yeah. It's it's not the time to say, yeah, that did happen, but, oh, he was rested, but, well, actually, like, the worst is, yeah, that did happen, or, you know, you're trying to talk about it and someone says, well, actually, did you know, like, it's just, it's not, it's not the time we're, we're not in the right place to, to make those statements. And look, social media can be great.
Twitter can be great, but Twitter can also be horrible.
Right now, Twitter's pretty awful.
Like, I have, the both of us have been seeing everything that's going on,
and it is really tragic to read.
And yes, a lot of it, you know, social media,
it's a lot of trolls, it's a lot of awful people.
But you think in your head, this is so horrible.
How could anybody feel,
differently. Like you, you think, yes, everybody, everybody must agree on this because it's, it's,
this is just an in, absolutely inhumane act. But that is also just a part of our white privilege is that
we think like, oh yeah, obviously that people think the same way that that we do. But it's just not,
it's just not true. You see the hateful, horrible things people say and the explanations that people come up with a try and back up why they think that these protests shouldn't be happening or, you know, so many other rationalizations for why these things, these acts, these heinous acts keep happening in this country. And it's terrible.
but it's just social media has done
and it's tough because we also see all the bad things that happen in the news
the news is really hard to watch right now
there are good things happening
so that is where it is it is good
you do see videos of neighborhoods
and the police officers coming together
protesting together marching together
but you also see the complete opposite of that
you see an abuse of power
you see people getting really hurt
you see horrible things happening
and we've just reached an exploding point in this country.
Like there's just, we cannot sit here and tell people, like I said,
how they should or shouldn't protest.
We do not have the right to do that.
It has just become, it's boiled over.
It's, the pot has boiled over.
I said to Ria before, like, you can't say, like, oh, they're protesting the wrong way
or this isn't how it should be happening.
when there have been so many peaceful protests,
and this still is happening.
And you see someone like Colin Kaepernick
who literally lost his career
because of peaceful protesting
and just taking a knee.
And people hated that.
People hated it.
They complained about it.
They hated it.
So what else is there to do?
Right. I 100% agree and back up everything
Grant is saying,
what else is there?
supposed to do when peace is not bringing justice at this point in time. You know, like Fran said,
we're not supposed to sit here and say, hey, you know, you shouldn't be doing this, not doing that.
We're not the ones to do that. We can't tell you not to be angry because we think you should be
angry. You can't, there's no way to defend what has happened or what has been happening
since the beginning of time. There's no way to defend it. I see something, you know,
friend has mentioned the social media and people are sharing a lot of things and the butts and the
well-actualies and this not the other thing and a lot of times people are bringing up you know oh well
all lives matter well you know what that doesn't fucking matter right now because nobody said they
don't we are just saying black lives do matter they do not that none you know not that oh they
not everybody matters.
We're just making it a point that they do matter
because it's not about white people right now.
It's not about you, me.
It's about the black community
and people of color that we need to stand up for.
And I saw, you know, Billy Eilish,
she, it's tough to bring up celebrities
in a time like this because you don't,
you don't want to be like, oh, celebrities are the end-all, be-all.
But I do think, you know, a lot of them are using their platform for good.
Are angry and they're saying.
they're making good points. Sometimes that they can, yeah, sometimes they can vocalize
how we are all feeling, um, in ways that we haven't been able to. Like sometimes you just,
you read something or you watch a video of, of someone saying something and you're like,
wow, that is exactly how I felt, but I just haven't been able to find those right words.
Exactly. And I think that's something that we both have been thinking about over the course of
a few days is just we do feel sickened. We do feel.
and we do feel sad and we do want to stand up for what is right,
but how do we do it?
What is the best possible way?
And I think there are people who are articulating it in a way that should be spread.
Billy Eilish, she, I'm not going to read the whole thing,
but you can go to Instagram and read it and I'll just read some points that I think
she has made that really need to be expressed.
She said, I've been trying to take this week to figure out a way to address this delicately.
I have an enormous platform and I try really hard to be respectful
and take time to think through what I say and how I say it.
But holy fucking shit, I'm just going to start talking.
If I hear one more white person say, all lives matter, one more fucking time, I'm going to lose my fucking mind.
Will you shut the fuck up?
No one is saying your life doesn't matter.
No one is saying your life is not hard.
No one is saying literally anything at all about you.
All you do is find a way to make everything about yourself.
This is not about you.
Stop making it about you.
And obviously, she goes along to, you know,
to continue talking about how saying all lives matter is not the correct way to go about this.
And other people have been sharing the same sentiment.
And I thought this post by Bless the Messy was a great way to show how ridiculous it really is.
If you were at an event supporting people with breast cancer,
no one would run in and scream all cancer matters.
That's a given.
It's obvious. No one is saying it doesn't. So I think that is a great comparison because, yes, like thinking about it, you know, obviously it's not the same thing, but nobody's saying all cancer doesn't matter when they are donating to a breast cancer fund.
Yeah. We just need to take the point right now to stand up for Black Lives Matter. That is what's important.
Yeah. And like you said, I think we've mentioned that it's it's an overload right now of social media statements being made, post being made, and obviously some hit home harder than others.
And I personally, like, just as how Billy Eilish went off, the anger, just it takes over.
I thought that Gigi Hadid actually wrote a really great caption on an Instagram post.
She has, she wrote really how I have felt at a lot of times during this.
She said, enraged, sickened, heartbroken, but never surprised.
This happens way too often in the videos that go viral are not isolated events.
It seems that only when caught on came,
camera are bigots and murderers even getting investigated or fired. Unfortunately, the only way
things will start changing is if all these racist, ignorant monsters, badge, and or not, have to face
the consequences behind bars. And it's not only an issue with black men being killed by cops. It's an issue
every time we see them being treated in even nonviolent situations very clearly differently than many
very high-risk incidents involving white men. It's an issue that the president is making
dangerous public statements about enforcing the shooting of protesters, rightfully angered
by another unneeded killing of another black person and demanding justice where it is 100%
needed. While exactly 28 days earlier, he tweeted about white protesters who stood armed with guns
protesting a worldwide health pandemic as, quote, very good people urging the governor to,
quote, see them, talk to them, make a deal. This is, too, an issue about the Karens we see
filmed weekly using someone's race as a point to try and push their agenda while calling the
police in situations where their lives are clearly not actually in danger.
at all. They're just plain fucking racist. Every time feels more disheartening and nauseating because
our cries for the government and Americans to do better seem unheard. But even when we feel like
what we do isn't enough or can't help, we have to do more. Keep signing petitions, making calls to
demand justice, speaking out, this is not just if you have a big platform, it starts in your
homes and communities. I'm finding to make a difference for every life that has been wrongly taken
or affected by the pandemic of racism. This is about being against every census act of discrimination
that burdens this country.
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Um, Gigi, I thought she made a lot of really amazing points.
One thing that I think is great too with what you said is, uh, have these open conversations.
Um, even if, even if it's just with your family or if it's with your friends, you probably have
friends or family that have differing, uh, views than you do or, you know, believed
different things and that's okay, but there needs to be a discussion. You need to have these
conversations. You need to ask why this keeps happening. And look, Gigi also mentioned our president.
And I will say, like, Rie and I have always stayed away from talking about politics. This is,
that's not what we made this podcast for. We think that there are a lot of, you know, other resources
to go to when you're, when you're looking to discuss those, those kinds of things. That does not mean
that Ria and I don't have our beliefs and our values and support who we support.
Like that, we have always tried to keep that separate.
But it's just come to a point where it's pretty impossible.
Like, I just think it's impossible to see the way that our president has tweeted throughout
this situation and has sent out these sentiments to people.
and not see that there is a problem.
And Gigi has the best example.
When you saw all of those people protesting
on the steps of government buildings
with assault rifles and machine guns protesting that they had to wear a mask
when they went outside and nobody touched them.
They were fine.
They were allowed to do that and protest and do that.
But now this isn't, in the,
Guys with the president, this is a different situation.
And now, if things get crazy, well, then that means shooting's going to start to happen.
It's truly fucking ridiculous, honestly.
You really put it next to each other and you think about how different the situations are
and how he handled both of them so differently.
It's nauseating.
It actually is nauseating to read the president tweet out when the looting starts the shooting
starts. You are now promoting violence when the thing that people are standing up against
is the violence against black people. Now you are promoting that. On Twitter, like when you said,
when people were fucking protesting wearing masks, it was all fun. It was all fine and dandy.
Masks? Yeah. Vers actual human beings? Mass. And look, you can be angry with,
with your government.
You can be angry with your leaders.
You can disagree with them.
If you thought that, you know, on top of this,
I mean, there's been a global pandemic.
Things have been closed.
It is just the absolute shitstorm of all things
coming together at one time.
And these people, you know,
if you protest that small businesses have stayed closed
and this, you know, all those things,
all the precautions that have been
taken during this time, that's okay.
If you feel that way, okay.
But you cannot ignore how each situation has been treated differently.
How, like, that, those protests and these protests are being treated completely, completely
differently.
Right.
When it's right in front of your face, you can't just sit there and ignore it.
And we're seeing, you know, people, I stand up for the protesters.
I agree that you should be protesting.
I, in the first place, the things that are happening right now in these riots
would not be happening if the murder wasn't happening.
Think about that.
Think about changing that before you change what's happening in the riots and the protests
and whatever you think about that.
think about where it all started and why it's happening and the root of the reason don't get lost
in just the riots and talking about the riots and the violence talk about why it's happening
because that's the important part you know it's not just right now it's about george floyd it's
not just about george void you know this is something we've been seeing since the beginning
of time whether you want to fully come to terms with it or not
not. Yeah. It's happening. And right now, what matters in this world is to educate yourself and to try and do something
about it because we can't just sit back and think, oh, you know, it's not happening in me. So why,
why should I care? Yeah. Why should I care? It's not happening to me. Because it's happening to
our people in this country as human beings.
Right.
It's, it's sickening and I absolutely agree with you, Ria.
It's like go to the root of the problem and figure out why is it so easy for this country
to deploy the National Guard and send out, you know, armed forces, military to these
cities so quickly, so quickly.
And how is it not easier? How is it not easier?
Why is it so hard to get the, you know, reform and the discussions happening and the actions
that need to be taken where the police in their communities become more a part of the
community. Because it's really, like I said, it's really tragic because you see all, you see everything on
social media. Not, not all police are bad. It's and, but there is a systematic problem in the
country and that is just undeniable. You can't say that that's not happening. Um, so it is an abuse of
power. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. And, um, what's not,
is that, you know, you see these peaceful process.
We've seen a lot of videos of peaceful protesting happening right now.
And in an ideal world, that is how you get things done with protests.
Obviously, we've had a lot of civil rights leaders in the past speak out about how they think these protests should be handled.
And it's, we just live in such an insane world that it's so hard to really get the facts of what's going on.
Because you see some people saying that it's the protest.
You see some people saying it's people coming from out of state.
You see videos of young white kids destroying storefronts.
And you realize that you could have, some of these cities,
could have thousands of peaceful protesters,
and you just have one person take that step to escalate it,
and all of a sudden there's madness.
And it's really horrifying all around to see what's been going on.
Right.
And like we've mentioned, it's not our place to tell anybody how to handle their murder.
But white people and white men and Jake Paul.
Yeah.
Who are igniting violence in these protests and alluding and looting and doing things that you think to yourself, yes, they, you know, yes, they went out there to protest.
But did they go out there to protest or did they go out there because they just want to be destructive?
Yeah.
There's a difference.
Absolutely.
And I think a lot of it is just inciting destruction.
And we, like you said, it's hard because it's so heartbreaking to see,
but we acknowledge the privilege that we have because we are white.
You see these videos of parents explain.
to their children, their, you know, black parents explaining to their children,
what to do when they counter the police.
And right there, you should realize, you know, if you are in a position like myself or like Ria,
where our parents have never had to have that discussion with us.
That's just something that we haven't had to do.
And right there shows how much.
messed up this whole, this whole system still is that these parents have to sit down there,
have these discussions with their kids and say, this is what you have to do when you encounter
the police. This is what, this is what might happen. We don't have to worry about that. And right
there is so crazy and why we need to educate ourselves and realize what's,
going on. And like you said at the beginning,
it's not enough now to be
not racist.
You have to educate yourself on how to be
anti-racist and see
these things that are still going on.
And like I said, we
is, it's hard
for us to put into words what's going on
because we will never
be able to put ourselves in
a black person's shoes. We just will not.
So I think the best thing that we can do is let you listen to this clip from Killer Mike in Atlanta speech he gave that I thought was absolutely fantastic.
And we're going to let you guys listen to that, really listen to what he's saying.
And then we have some resources.
Yes, after we play the clip and like Fran said, really take it in, really listen.
We're going to talk about all the places that you can actively help every single day, donations, petitions, books, documentaries, movies.
We'll talk about it all.
So listen to this clip and we'll get into that after.
I didn't want to come and I don't want to be here.
I'm the son of an Atlanta City police officer.
My cousin is an Atlanta City police officer.
And my other cousin East Point, police officer.
And I got a lot of love and respect for police officers down to the original eight police officers in Atlanta that even after becoming police had to dress in a YMCA because white officers didn't want to get dressed with niggers.
And here we are 80 years later.
I watched a white officer assassinate a black man.
And I know that tore your heart out.
And I know it's crippling.
And I have nothing positive to say in this moment.
Because I don't want to be here.
But I'm responsible to be here because it wasn't just Dr. King and people dressed nicely
who marched and protested to progress this city and so many other cities.
It was people like my grandmother.
people like my aunt and uncles who are members of SCLC and NAACP,
and in particular, Reverend James Orange, Mrs. Alice Johnson, and Reverend Love, who we just lost last year.
So I'm duty-bound to be here to simply say that it is your duty not to burn your own house down for anger with an enemy.
It is your duty to fortify your own house so that you may be a house of refuge in times of organization.
And now is the time to plot, plan, strategize, organize, and mobilize.
It is time to beat up prosecutors you don't like at the voting booth.
It is time to hold mayorial offices accountable, chiefs and deputy chiefs.
Atlanta is not perfect, but we're a lot better than we ever were, and we're a lot better than cities are.
I'm mad as hell.
I woke up wanting to see the world burn down yesterday because I'm tired of seeing black men die.
He casually put his knee on a human being's neck for nine minutes as he died like a zebra in the clutch of a lion's jaw.
And we watch it like murder porn over and over again.
So that's why children are burning to the ground.
They don't know what else to do.
And it is the responsibility of us to make this better right now.
We don't want to see one officer charge.
We want to see four officers prosecuted and sentenced.
We don't want to see targets burning.
We want to see the system that sets up for,
systemic racism burnt to the ground.
And as I sit here in Georgia,
Homer Stevens, Georgia, former vice president of the Confederacy,
white man said that law, fundamental law stated that whites were naturally the superior race.
And the Confederacy was built on a cornerstone.
It's called a cornerstone speech.
Look it up.
The cornerstone speech that blacks would always be subordinate.
That officer believed that speech.
because he killed that man like an animal.
In this city, officers have done horrendous things, and they have been prosecuted.
This city's cut different.
In this city, you can find over 50 restaurants owned by black women.
I didn't say minority, and I didn't say women of color.
So after you burn down your own home, what do you have left but char and ash?
CNN?
Ted did a great thing.
I love CNN.
I love Cartoon Network, but I'd like to say
to CNN right now,
karma's a mother.
Stop feeding fear and anger every day.
Stop making people feel so fearful.
Give them hope.
I'm glad they only took down a sign
and defaced a building
and they're not killing human beings like that policeman did.
I'm glad that they only destroyed some brick and martyr
and they didn't rip a father from a son.
They didn't rip a son from a mother.
like the policeman did.
When a man yells for his mother in duress and pain and she's dead,
he is essentially yelling, please God, don't let it happen to me.
And we watch that.
So my question for us on the other side of this camera is after it burns,
will we be left with charred or would we rise like a phoenix out of the ashes that Atlanta has always done?
Will we use this as a moment to say that we will not do what other cities have done?
and in fact we will get better than we've been.
We got good enough to destroy cash bonds.
You don't have to worry about going to jail for some petty.
We got smart enough to decriminalize marijuana.
How smart are we going to be in the next 15 or 20 years to keep us ahead of this curve?
So that much like when South Africa suffered apartheid,
you had Andy and other politicians that could make sure that Atlanta said Coca-Cola,
we love you.
But if you don't pull out of South Africa, we're going to leave.
We're not going to drink Coca-Cola anymore.
Coca-Cola jumped on their side and apartheid.
So we have an opportunity now because I'm mad.
I don't have any good advice.
But what I can tell you is that if you sit in your homes tonight,
instead of burning your home to the ground,
you will have time to properly plot, plan, strategize,
and organize and mobilize an effective way.
And two of the most effective ways is first taking your butt to the computer
and making sure you fill out your sentences
so that people know who you are and where you are.
The next thing is making sure you exercise your political bully power
and going to local elections and beating up the politicians that you don't like.
You got a prosecutor sent your part to the jail and you know it was bullshit.
Put a new prosecutor in there.
Now's your election to do it.
You want a different senator that's more progressive that promotes marijuana through.
Now is the time to do that.
But it is not time to burn down your own home.
I love and I respect you.
I hate I don't have more to say.
I hate I can't fix it in a snap.
I hate Atlanta's not perfect for as good as we are.
But we have to be better.
than this moment. We have
to be better than burning down
our own homes. Because if we
lose Atlanta, what else we
got? We lose
an ability to plot, to plan, to
strategize, to organize, and to properly
mobilize. I want you to go home.
I want you to talk to 10 of your friends.
I want you guys to come up with real
solutions. I would like for the Atlanta
City Police Department to bring back
the community review board, one that
Alex Johnson was formerly under, under Chief
Turner. We need a review board here.
ahead of it.
Before an officer does some stupid shit.
We need to get ahead of it.
That's my recommendation to my mayor and my chief.
Let's get a review.
Well, let's get ahead of it.
And let's give him power.
We don't need an officer that makes a mistake once, twice, three times.
And finally, he kills a boy on national TV,
and the next thing you know, the country is burning down.
We don't need a dumb-ass president repeating what segregation is said.
When you start looting, we start shooting.
But the problem is some officers black and some people are going to shoot back.
And that's not good for our community either.
I love and respect you all.
I hope that we find a way out of it because I don't have the answers, but I do know.
We must plot.
We must plan.
We must strategize, organize, and mobilize.
Thank you for allowing me some time to speak.
I'd like to appreciate our chief of what she said on YouTube.
I thought it was very bold to do.
I'd like to appreciate our mayor for talking us like a black mama and telling us to take our ass at home.
And I'd like to talk.
Thank my friend for convincing me to come here.
And I'll defer to Joe Beasley now because he knows a hell of a lot more than we do.
Thank you.
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All right, guys, I really hope that you listen to that, to that full clip. Obviously,
I think it was, you just explained.
in an amazing way of how he is feeling because we we would rather you guys hear it from
him directly opposed to us just discussing it so we wanted to include that and now like we said
we want to get into ways that you can help that we can help that we can educate ourselves we can
do it as a group we can start these things together and hopefully um take a step in the
direction of just being more aware of what has been going on and how we can actively get involved.
Right. And I would like to put out there that, you know, we do have a list of ways to help,
but we are always, always, always open to whatever you want to send us that you think we should
read, that you think, you know, we should donate to, you think we should sign. Please, we are asking
you, send them our way. We want to look at them. We want to educate ourselves. We want to share
it with you. So if you have that and we didn't name it, please share it with us. I'm going to name some
things that, like Fran said, we have donated to, we've signed petitions, we've seen other people
share. One of the things, text Floyd to 55156. This will help sign the petition to demand justice
for George Floyd and get all of those police officers arrested and convicted as they should. Right now,
Derek Chauvin, I think, was the only one.
who was charged with third degree murder.
I don't even believe third degree murder is enough.
I think it was premeditated.
Somebody saying they can't breathe.
And you know what I can't breathe means.
That means you can't breathe, which means you die.
So texting Floyd to 55156, that would mean you will sign a petition that will demand justice for George Floyd.
You can call your local government.
You can call 612, 3, 2444-49.
That is another way that you can demand.
Justice and text justice to 668-8366 as well.
Places you can donate the George Floyd Memorial Fund.
This is the official GoFundMe for his family that was created for his brother.
And by the way, we will be putting all of the links and all of the ways that you can help
in our description because we know it's hard to just memorize it all.
So if you go to the description, you'll see it all laid out, click, read about it.
they're all right there. So like I said, the George Floyd Memorial Fund, which is the official go-fund me for his family created by his brother, the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which is a community-based nonprofit that pays criminal bail and immigration bonds for individuals who have been arrested while protesting police brutality. We have the Black Visions Collective, which is a Black Trans-Queer-led organization that is committed to dismantling systems of oppression and violence, plus shifting the public narrative to create transformative and long-
term change. We have Reclaim the Block, which is coalition that advocates for and invest in community-led
safety initiatives in Minneapolis neighborhoods. Campaign Zero, which is an online platform,
an organization that utilizes research-based policy solutions to end police brutality in America,
a unicorn riot, which is a nonprofit organization that is dedicated to exposing root causes of
dynamic, social, and environmental issues. We have the Know Your Rights Camp, which provides resources
for black and brown communities, including hiring defense attorneys for anyone arrested,
protesting police brutality. We have the American Civil Liberties Union, which provides legal assistance
wherever civil liberties are at risk, fair fight, which ensures fair elections and combat voter
suppression, and committee to protect journalists, which is the fight press freedom violations worldwide.
These are the places that you can donate. These are, you know, the places you can sign petitions.
We are going to put all of these in the description, so it's easy for you to find them, read about them, donate.
Fran is now going to talk about the places you can read about these things and educate yourself, podcast, movies, documentaries.
So obviously, guys, I mean, this is donating is so important.
This is also one of my favorite ways to just learn.
Like on this show, we talk about movies, TV shows, books all the time.
this is a way to educate yourself in ways that you're spending your time.
Like if you're going to turn on another Netflix show during this time,
it's another, you're like, I'm just going to watch this.
Make it something where you are going to learn.
You're going to educate yourself.
We have, there's a few things on Netflix right now that are a great.
13th American Son, dear white people, see you yesterday.
And when they see us, I've watched when they see us.
It is heartbreaking, but it's so important to watch.
On Hulu, you can watch if Beale Street could talk and the hate you give.
Movies that you could rent right now.
Black Power Mix Taped, 1967 to 1975, Clemency, Fruitvale Station.
I am not your Negro.
Just Mercy, Selma and the Black Panthers Vanguard of the Revolution.
Also, guys, we got a lot of these information.
lot of these lists from social media accounts, which have been great people posting places to donate.
We have done our research on them, have made sure that, you know, all that checks out.
These lists of podcasts and shows and movies and stuff, I've seen on tons of people's social media
and just want to, you know, say that they were based on lists by Sarah, Sophia, Sophie Flickr and Alice,
and Alyssa Klein.
And then there's these podcasts.
There's 1619 by the New York Times about race, code switched by NPR, the diversity gap,
intersectionality matters, hosted by Kimberly Crenshaw, Momentum, a Race Forward podcast,
Pod for the Cause from the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights,
and a pod saved the people by Crook Media.
And then there's tons of books.
There's so many books, guys.
I had shared a list from the cut on my Instagram story.
They had a lot of great stuff.
A lot of these books are on that list.
There are black feminist thought, eloquent rage,
a black feminist discovers her superpower, heavy,
an American memoir, How to Be an Anti-Racist.
I will say how to be an anti-racist,
I think is the first one that I personally am going to read.
I have been recommended this by multiple people at this point.
So I think that that is where I will be diving in if you wanted to do the same.
I know why the cage bird sings.
I'm still here, black dating me in a world made for whiteness,
just mercy, redefining realness, sister outsider.
So you want to talk about race, the bluest eye, the fire next time,
the new Jim Crow mass incarceration in the age of color blindness.
the next American Revolution,
sustainable activism for the 21st century,
the warmth of mother's sons,
their eyes were watching God,
this bridge called me back,
writings by radical women of color,
white fragility,
why it's so hard for white people
to talk about racism.
And then here's,
this is the final resource that we will give.
You can access tons of documents and resources
at good, good,
dot co-slash antiracism resources.
We'll put that in the,
podcast description as well. This guide, which is created by the women who I've just read,
who created these lists of, you know, places you can go. Their guide includes links to tools for
white parents to raise anti-racist children, articles to read, videos to watch, pockets to
describe to, books to read, film and series to watch, obviously, everything that I just read, and
organizations to follow on social media and more. So all the, you know, all the resources that I just
read out loud, you can find at good, good, good.co slash anti-racism resources.
Right. So like Fran said, she named them all, look into them. Like I said before,
please, if you have any other suggestions in ways that we can educate ourselves,
please send them our way. We are always, always, always going to be open to looking at them,
reading into them.
You know, just because we talked about this.
Our podcast, it's a pop culture-based podcast.
We don't talk about these things often.
And just because we are not going to be doing a podcast about this every single time we do a podcast,
doesn't mean we're not going to be actively working towards this offline like we all should be.
So I just want everyone to know, you know, where are our hearts?
arts are at where we think you guys can educate yourselves. We think you guys can help educate us.
We can help do this together. Um, and we want to use our platform for good. And, you know, we love our
listeners so much and we love each and every single one of you. And we know that it is a extremely
scary time. Um, it, it breaks my heart truly. Like, it really, really, really does. So let's just
Oh, my God.
Now we're both starting to cry.
Look, it's, it's truly heartbreaking.
It really is.
And I just feel like, you know, we're doing the things we can do to help.
And that's the best thing that we could do.
Oh, boy.
Look, I want to say that I'm very thankful for all of you guys for listening.
I know that this is not what we usually talk about.
It was just, Rhea and I are together right now.
We had these conversations all night.
You know, we were up late watching the news, and we just looked each other,
and we were like, we cannot do a regular show this week.
It just, it doesn't feel right.
We need to address these things.
But we also understand that you guys come to us as an escape.
We have really pride at ourselves during these crazy, crazy times,
during coronavirus, everything, of being a place where,
you guys feel love, support, and can have that hour or whatever of not worrying about the
crazy things that are going on in the world. But like I said at the beginning, there was no way
that we could discuss those things without bringing this up. And we will probably, you know,
will probably be going back to our regular show come Thursday,
but this is weighing really, really heavily on our hearts.
I just want you guys all to know that.
And the last thing that I'm going to say is if you,
and I think Killer Mike really put a good emphasis on it as well,
if you are upset, angered, sad, all of these emotions,
you have to vote.
It's so important on all levels.
Read who, like really educate yourself.
Read about the elections on every level of government.
And just if it upsets you as much as it upsets us is just so important to make sure that your voice is heard.
and I can't
I mean I really cannot emphasize it up
I know I know we say
we don't want to get political
so I'm just gonna say you
you have to vote right
and Fran to back up your statement
something to remind yourself is
don't just say to yourself
oh I'm just one person it doesn't matter
you are one person and that matters
yeah so do the right thing
yeah like Fran said
trying to rain on the thunder
tell a storm a true thing
and tell them tell them tell them
Marys, I meditate for practice
Channel 9 news tell me I'm moving back with
Eight blacks left, deaf as around the corner
Seven misleaders statements by my persona
Six headlights waving in my direction
Five-o asking me, what's at my possession?
Yeah, I keep running, jump into act with that fire,
I dress and hazard a smoke alarms on the back of us
But mama don't cry for me, ride for me, drive for me, live for me,
breathe for me, sing for me, honestly, got in me,
I can be more than I gotta be stowed from me
Laugh to me, nation, hypocrisy,
gold on me driving me wicked my spirit inspired me like yeah open correctional gates in high
desert yeah open our mind us we cashed away oppression open the streets and watch our beliefs and
when they carve my name inside the concrete i pray it forever free freedom freedom i
