Chicks in the Office - April Fools' Sucks, Jen Shah Fraud + Camille Kostek Interview

Episode Date: April 2, 2021

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. This is state of America. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. We've made it. We've made it to Friday, Fran.

You know, the first podcast of this week, we talked about you getting COVID. You got sick. And we're still here. you still got it. How are you feeling? It's still happening. You're still in the same spot you are on Monday. And we're trying to give you all the Friday energy that we can to you and to our listeners. But this podcast, it's a great one.

Don't get me wrong. It's a great one. But it's going to be on the shorter side because Fran is long-winded and out of breath. Ria has labeled me with many symptoms today. No, I, Monday sucked because I really still like did not feel good. I am definitely feeling better. I feel like I am on the other side. I forgot to say this on Wednesday, so I'll say it now.

I did get a lot of very, very nice messages from you guys giving me some tips and fun things and, you know, other people that I've had it in ways that had helped them and whatnot. So that was very, very nice. Thank you very much for doing that. I am free on Sunday. It would be my last day. So I'm almost there. Almost there.

You are almost there. It's the weekend now. It's like a regular weekend for you. You made it through. I do nothing on the weekend anyway. We always wondered the three of us. How would we react when one of us got Corona? Right?

It was like Noah and I were convinced we were going to die. Fran never really put out any sort of feeling as to what was going to happen to her. You're the only one who hasn't gotten it now because I got it but didn't have any symptoms. I didn't even know I had it. Right. I have not gotten it. Knock on wood. Well, Ria, you have your vaccine appointment.

I did book my vaccine appointment. I'm excited for you to go to the Javitt Center. This is like when you got your endoscopy and I was like excited for you because it's such a good experience. Yeah, Noah got his vaccine this week. There's an orchestra playing and like all the people are really nice. Yeah. Mine's not until. I've seen some videos.

It looks nice. Yeah, mine's not until a little later in April because you'll make it. Yeah. We'll make it. But I'll, I felt like the buffoon who got like, it was like, wow, I got it really. Like the Cuomo announced that. 16 and older in New York eligible on on this Tuesday that's coming up.

I was like one week. I literally just could have had to have made it one week. There was an article on the onion, like the headline just like made me laugh. I got to find it. It was just like, I was thinking about it. I was like, yeah, this is so true. I just have a feeling I'm going to get it before my vaccine comes

and I'm going to feel like such an asshole. No, no, I don't think so. I've heard of people who got the vaccine but like didn't know that like and then they tested positive like a few days later because I had gotten it but didn't know. Yeah. Well, I'm going to get a test before. I guess. This headline for the onion came out yesterday was CDC announces it kind. It's kind of embarrassing to get coronavirus this late in the pandemic.

It's so true. It's been it's been over a year now and now you got it. Spot on a spot on headline from the onion. Yeah, it was like, wow, I made it this far, literally one week to all adults being able to get vaccinated in New York. And just, just snuck it in there. Just snuck in it. Well, that's why I'm convinced I'm going to get it soon because I just feel like, why you and not me? You know, like, I just feel like why you and not me.

You have survivor's guilt. Yes, I do. I have survivors guilt. Yes. Well, knock on one again, I really don't want it. You know, I've tried my best not to get it. I really think you'll be okay. I really think you'll be okay. Yeah, I think I'm going to be okay. Excited for that fax appointment. That's going to be exciting. And I think things are looking on the

up, of course, you know, and more people are getting vaccinated. Like you said, New York City, everyone's going to be eligible next week. So things seem to be on the rise. I think summer, I think this summer is going to be a great one. I really do. I think it's going to be a great one. So that's all exciting. But right now we are recording on April Fool's Day. It's April 1st. And I forgot April Fool's Day existed because I was making a TikTok where I was complimenting people in the office just because I saw a video on TikTok of like somebody on the street complimenting people. And I was like, okay, I'm going to do that in the office because obviously everyone in the office is going to be like, why are you complimenting me? Yeah. But as soon as I started doing it, people are like, is this an April Fool's joke?

And I was like, oh, no. Now everybody thinks I'm pulling April Fool's jokes. That's even worse. I was not. I forgot it. It was April Fool's Day. I didn't even know the date when I woke up this morning. I don't like April Fool's jokes

I think I think April Fool's Day is so lame now and overrated except Frank the Tank I appreciated his April Fool's joke That was a great one that even I believed So I feel like April Fool's has got to go Yeah, you do too

It's just It's just so annoying Because all day long You got a second guess If something's true If it's not true And for us it's hard too Because when it comes to celebrities

It's like We have to decipher Oh, is this real? Is this not real? Somebody always make some kind of April Fool's joke that doesn't go over well. Like Tori Spelling posted that she's pregnant with her six child. I don't know if that's real. I don't know if it's a joke.

If it's a joke, people are going to be pissed because pregnancy, April Fool's jokes are a no-go. They can't do it anymore. They don't play. Remember when Bieber did it? Everyone the Bebebs did it? It's a no-fly zone. There's always like ultrasounds and pregnancy.

And it was like, of course, Justin Bieber still thinks pregnancy. April Fool's jokes are funny. Yes. There's always one celebrity a year now who does it and doesn't realize that it's just like it's not funny anymore. And it could be Tori Spelling or she really could have decided to announce that she's pregnant on April Fool's Day because that's the other hard thing. People make legit announcements.

And it's like, well, is it a joke? Like on Twitter today, I, Roy Williams, coach of North Carolina basketball, retired. When I first saw the tweet, I was like, ha, ha, April Fool is he's not retiring. No, he really did retire. He really did. He made the announcement today. You just got to be better at planning. Can't announce anything on April 1st. You can't announce anything on April 1st.

Snoop Dog is going to be the mega mentor on the voice. And in the video announcing it, he literally is like, I know it's April 1st, but this is not a joke. I really am going to be the mega mentor on the voice. I remember last year, everyone was like, okay, April Fool's Day is. canceled because the pandemic had just started and everyone was like, we can't handle April Fool's jokes. Like, hey, I got Corona. April Fool's. Like, that's not going to fly. People aren't going to like that.

So nobody did April Fool's jokes last year. And that was great. Forgetting that April Fool's existed last year was awesome. And I wish we could just go back to that period of time because will it ever end? Is April Fool's ever going to end? I know. And it sucks because it's just growing. I texted this to it's growing. It's growing? You think it's growing? I think it's growing. I think it's growing. I texted myself this this week. I said, at the Michael Strahan Gap Tooth thing

is an April Fool's joke. I hate it so much. Because we live in a goddamn society. We can't have April Fool's Day joke starting on March 29th. Uh-uh. No. Like, you can't start the joke days before April Fool's.

Yeah, that doesn't fly. Put it out there, be like, oh, I close my gap. The whole world's freaking out. Everybody's got to wait for days. He posted this whole long video today being like, just kidding. I, you know, didn't get rid of the gap.

It's this two-minute video for him finally at the end to reveal that he didn't get rid of the gap. And yes, everybody was on top of it being like, oh, look at the calendar. We're almost at April Fool's Day. Uh-uh. We can't have the, we're almost at April Fool's Day. April Fool's Day jokes can and only can happen on April 1st.

We can't be having April Fool's Day jokes start days before. Like I said, this is a society. We can't function with every day around April Fool's thinking like, hmm, is that a joke, though? Right. We can't live our lives like that because then it becomes April Fool's week and then it becomes April Fool's month. Exactly.

I can really see Jason Durl having, did you see he like said he's pregnant like they're having a baby? Yeah. I could see that being a joke now, actually. No, that was a TikTok world. That came out a few days ago, but this is what I'm saying. Yeah, now we're throwing the confusion out there. Michael Strayhand. Seriously, that pisses me off.

You got me, you got me riled up now. You're so right. It's April Fool's Day. It's not April Fool's get your jokes ready days before and play them out until April Fool's day and then unleash them. April Fool's Day, if you can't pull a solid joke off in one day, then you're not cut out for it. Sorry, you don't got the humor or the entertainment ability.

You got to be able to pull it off in one day. And if you can't do that, then you lose your privileges. you lose your privileges to make any April Fool's Day jokes. You should get suspended. If you start an April Fool's Day joke early, you get suspended. Yeah, it can only happen on one day, like I said. And there are some exceptions when the joke is really good. Because there's a lot of elementary April Fool's Day jokes that it's like,

ha, ha, okay, you got it's like. Can you name one example? Yes, I will, because I judge. saw a good one. So Michael, like the Michael Stryan Gaptooth, I, that one I don't think is very original because it's like, oh, you know, Gaptooth, that's his signature thing. Caitlin Bristow pranked Jason in like, in a way that was so ruthless that it makes it funnier. Like it's, it's very, it's was scarier where it was like, okay, he real, like she really got him. So she and she started it the night before. So last night, the,

night before April Fool's Day, she sent him a, quote, a sexy photo, a nude photo solely for this setup. She then had, like she was on FaceTime with him today. She then had like 20 to 25 people from all walks of earth like that know Jason, friends from home, producers from the show, friends that they had together, all text him like around the same time being like, holy shit. like did you mean to post that on your story? Freaking out, thinking that, which made Jason think that he accidentally posted this nude photo of Caitlin on his Instagram story. And the video is hilarious because they're on FaceTime and he's like, I'm getting these texts.

I'm going to go buy! And like hangs up on her and like hangs up. And she keeps calling him back and she keeps calling him back. And she's like trying not to laugh. And Jason's so pissed. Like I've never seen Jason like this ever. He literally is yelling into it. He's like,

What? What is happening? All of a sudden, and then she's like, April Fool's, and he like hung up on her. It was like all pissy and then got back on. It was laughing. It was like, holy shit, I can't believe that was. On April Fool's Day joke. So that required a setup, like the night before she sent the photo in order for the day. But like, I find that to be very creative and funny.

That was well thought out. I'll give it to her. I'll give it to her. I've never heard an April Fool's joke like that before, so I'll give it to her. so I'll give it to her. No, exactly. That's what I'm saying. I found that to be fairly creative.

There's a lot of April Fool's jokes out there that are just like not creative. Michael Strayhan cheated. He cheated. That's what I'd call that. He cheated because... By starting days early, you make people believe it's real. Right. That's cheating.

That's April Fool's Day cheating. That's like, didn't we talk about this recently? We're like, if you really want to fake sick and get away with it at school, you have to start the night before. Yes. Yes. Yes. You have to start complaining. that your stomach hurts the night before.

God, it set the trap. Yeah, I've even gone to the hospital. Like, I've... Holy faking it. Like, not faking it. That made it seem like I was faking it. I did end up with, like, a cyst, an ovarian cyst. But I didn't have to go to the hospital, you know?

Like, I just really, like, I was, I didn't feel well, but I knew that if I just woke up the next day, my parents would be like, that's a different story. I've done that on a much lighter level, not host. not going to the hospital. That sounds like I was faking it. I did have something wrong. No, that's what I'm saying. You had something wrong. I'm saying I've straight up done it where like I knew I had some kind of assignment doing the morning that I didn't finish. And I knew I wasn't going to finish it the night before. Like I'm like, you know, it's nine o'clock. It's like, all right, I'm not. Realistically, I'm not going to finish this. Yeah. And that's when you plant like the, oh, man, like, I was just like, I'm feeling super nauseous.

Yes. Yes. And then when. you wake up in the morning, you're like, oh, I told you last night. I felt nauseous. I couldn't sleep all night. Yeah, the best is when your parents recall that you said it, right? Like, you said it. And then the next morning, you're like, oh, I don't feel good. And they're like, well, you said, you said last night you weren't feeling well. And you're like, yeah, I did. Yeah, yeah, I did say that.

I did say that. I did say that. No, so anyway, look, it's very hard to pull off a good April Fool's Day joke these days. And it's very rare to find a good one because a lot of them are just hard to, A lot of them are hard. A lot of them aren't funny. And I'm just very much against starting an April Fool's Day joke days before April 1. That just can't happen. I agree with you.

Sorry, I'm rolling out my neck right now. I don't know if you can see that. Honestly, I see you and it looks very relaxing. Can you crack your own neck? No, it's one of my biggest downfalls. What did you say? I wish I could. It's bad for you to crack your neck.

I mean, if you do it badly. Is it? Because I crack my, like, do it on your own. I can crack my hips and stuff. And my chiropractor said that was okay. Because I thought it wasn't. If you crack your neck in the wrong way, you can get a stroke. But that's like, I think only chiropractors can even like get it that far.

Right. No, I know. But you just have to be careful. Like, Joe's had back problems before where he's like totally tensed up and had to go to the chiropractor. And he cracks, he cracks his neck. And the chiropractor was like, stop fucking cracking your neck. Oh, okay. Interesting.

But I also don't trust chiropractors. I don't think I would ever go to one. Really? I go to one. It's great. Why don't you trust chiropractor? Because they, like, you don't even need to, like, go to school for that. Like, what?

His is a, he goes to a physical therapist. It's not even a, yeah. You don't need to go to school. You just kind of can just, like, become one. And, like, they, like, people get injured all the time. Wait, really? I hope we don't, I hope we don't have any, uh, chiropractor listeners. No one doesn't respect the chiropractor community.

I, I, I mean, you're a chiropractor greatly. I want that out there. She is lovely. She's a young woman and we, like, we could be friends. She's awesome. I like watching the videos because I like the sound. But then if you look on TikTok all those videos, there's always a ton of comments where people are like, this is totally dangerous. You can't trust TikTok comments.

No, no. I'm not just basing it off that. I've done some research. Okay. There is, there is. I'm sure there are great chiropractors out there. There is a risk. There is a risk.

But there is a greater reward. And I trust me on that. Going to chiropractor is one of the most satisfying feelings. Yeah, I don't know. If you have a bad neck and back. good friend who went to a chiropractor, like, midway through, like, he felt like it really hurt and was like, oh, I don't know. And the guy's like, don't worry.

It's normal. And then, like, went to a doctor and, like, they, like, tore one of his something. Oh. And then he sued them and got a ton of money. Oh. Well, that's terrible. That sounds like a horror story. Yeah.

Okay. I got, I mean, I got to go to the chiropractor. I have so many things wrong with my back. Yeah. Yeah. How else would I fix it? You just live in my life? back.

You just said about my backing. It's like literally like my my lower back they got, I got the x-ray. It's all just combined. Like it's all just

condensed. What if I, if I stood on your back, would it crack her? No. I, listen. People have tried to crack my back before. I've tried to crack my back.

It won't crack unless I'm out of chiropractor. It's, it's a downfall of mine. It's just the way it is. It's just the way it goes. Yep. Just the way it's going to be.

Um, do that, I think. Yeah. Well, we don't need to start cracking things. I feel like that's like that. Yeah. No. No, thanks.

There are times when like I'm okay with cracking my own fingers. I do it occasionally, but I don't like when other people do it. Really? Like if I'm around, like when I'm around other people who are cracking, yeah. I don't. Do you guys like cracking your toes? You love. Yes.

Well, I don't love it. I just have to sometimes. Like I just curl them up and I. I can't even really do it. I really wish everybody could see the look that Noah. I can't even look at him in the eye after the look he just gave me after he cracked his shoulder. It was one of the most, it was the most seductive look Noah has ever given. I know he didn't mean it like that, but he was like, yeah, that shit felt good.

Good news for everyone out there who wants the Noah camp. The new studio will have a NOAA cam. Yeah, it confirmed. It will have a NOAA cam, which... How's it looking in there, by the way? I obviously... Oh, the rug's got in there all the game. Yeah.

Oh, okay. All right. Has the table come yet? Not yet. Not yet. We're reading on a couple things. Yeah. Okay. Good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah, the listeners are really interested in all of this. Yeah, good stuff. We do have a new studio coming, which we... We keep saying that, and everyone's like, we don't believe you because you say it every week. Like a couple weeks, maybe three at the most.

Oh, well, let's put the... While we're talking about it, we can just say it right now. We are taking a mini break next week. Spring break. Yes. We are taking a mini break because Noah is quite overworked and needs to take a break. Well, they'll put it all on me. Don't put it all on me.

It's not all on Noah. It's not all on Noah. But, you know, after the bachelor ended and back to back and we've been doing a lot of work for that and whatever, we're going to take a mini break. And we are not going to put out podcast. next Friday and then the following Monday. April 9th and April 12th. Yeah, April 9th and April 12th, we will have no podcast.

But then hopefully when we come back from that very mini break, the new studio will be done. And it will be like, well, we're back from break. Here's our new studio. So that's the goal. Yeah. And hopefully we achieve that goal. Yes. I hope we stick to that timeline.

The last thing that I want to mention before we talk about Jen Shock. because there's a lot to talk about. With her is another thing that I texted myself while watching BFFs this week, because you know how much I love watching BFFs. Noah Beck is such a little sweetie pie. I just want to give him a hug. Like I just, something about these boys,

I don't know what it was, but like him and Josh, I nearly cried. listening to Josh talk about how much he loves Nessa. Like, I- Yeah, Josh is a sweetheart too. I straight up thought I was going to shed a tear. Like, the way he talked about how much he loves her and loves having, like, needing her in his life and like, just,

I, I'm sitting in this basement alone. Nobody's with me, obviously. And I'm watching this. And I audibly was like, oh, it's just heart-wrenching, heart-wrenching stuff. If, you know, there's been some TikTok drama if you want to catch up on on the latest, latest BFFs. But I don't think I really, I didn't know that much about Noah Beck.

I didn't really know that he like played soccer and like did all the like I didn't realize that he is relatively new to the. Oh, yes. He blew up during like the pandemic. Yeah. I thought like, I don't know why I just, maybe I just thought like the boys like the sway house boys in my mind. It was like they were all born into the sway house.

Yeah. I'm like, these guys don't have. I'm like, they don't have back. stories. So like hearing that hearing that was cool but he's like what a little just sweetie pie. That's all I, that's all I got to say.

Yeah. I've heard, I've heard good things about Noah Beck. I've heard he's really just a nice guy. Josh seems like a really nice guy talking about how much he loves Nessa. Yeah. Like if you're all into all that TikTok drama, listen to BFFs because it's highly entertaining. Very interesting. And they got all the tea. Like they got all the gossip. Josh is sitting right in front of their faces and the gossips about him. So that's, that's perfect. Exactly. Let's get into today's show. I was going to say let's get into the topics, but we only, we only have one big topic on today's podcast. We're talking about

Jen Shaw from Salt Lake City. She is arrested. She took a page out of Teresa Judeyce's book and thought, hey, you know, she's a real housewife. I'm a real housewife. I'm going to go along that path. And then we also have a great interview with Camille Kostick, who is always a delight, our favorite. She's been on the podcast many times. before you people love her as well. So let's get into it. And we're going to start off and end with Jen Shaw. Before we get into the Jen Shaw conversation, which is going to be very spicy and interesting, let's get serious for a second. I know that we've talked about mental health on this podcast before. You know, we've all struggled, you know, even in this year has been even more

tough on some people than in past years, obviously with COVID and everything else going on. Mental health has taken a toll. And it's important to make sure you have your mental health in check. I know that, like I said, we've talked about this plenty of times in the past year. I was struggling. Fran was struggling a little bit. And we've, we've gotten through it. And you guys can get through it to or at least get a little help if you are struggling with better help. Better help allows you to video chat, have a live chat session. So it could be over the phone. It could be over a video. It could just be over messaging and you don't even have to have your camera on if you don't even feel comfortable. And you can begin communicating with a therapist within under 48 hours.

It is very hard sometimes to find a therapist. They're expensive. But this is an easier, cheaper way to find a therapist because a lot of people struggle with that as well, which is unfortunate. You know, you want to take care of your mental health. But then people are stopped by these humps they got to go through to get through and find themselves the right therapist. But BetterHelp helps you with that. And we have a little promo for our listeners. If you are interested, you can go to BetterHelp.com slash office. You can get 10% off your first

month. That's B-E-T-T-E-R-H-E-L-P dot com slash office. And you'll get 10% off your first month. You know, like I said, if you've been trying to figure out how you're going to get this going, you've been struggling for a little bit now, you don't know where to start. Maybe start with BetterHelp. Go to BetterHelp.com slash office. The promo is there for you, 10% off your first month. Let's see how it goes. Jen Shaw from Real Housewives of Salt Lake City has been arrested for fraud in a nationwide telemarketing scam, as well as her assistant, Stuart Smith. Stewart. This is, this was shocking. It sent shock waves through the Bravo world. everybody was freaking out about it.

We have had, like Jen, only one from that show who's been on our show, Salt Lake City. She's been a guest. We can say we knew her when. My immediate thought was like, wow, we were talking to her. And in her mind, she's running a fucking scam. Like, she's playing us while she's playing other people. And we got scammed. We may have not lost money, but we got scammed big time.

It really blows my mind that there are people out there. And I'm assuming she's been doing this for a long time, right? Oh, she's got to be. That you could be dwelling in this illegal activity and then sign yourself up to be on reality television. I don't understand the thought process there where it's like, you know what? I'm making all this money because I'm scamming the shit out of people. let me now go on reality television where I am exposing myself to the world because so many people, so many people watch the show and were like, how the hell does she have all the stuff that she has?

Like where is her money coming from? Why does she have 10 assistants? I'm sorry. And now we know. I'm sorry. There is literally something wrong in the brains of people who do that, right? Because you just really have to truly think you're going to get away with it. A normal person would be like, oh shit, I shouldn't put myself out there any further because what if someone catches on? But there's no remorse. There's no awareness. There's no anxiety when you put yourself on a reality TV show when you are doing something like this.

Like there's got to be something wrong in your brain for you not to put two and two together and say, oh, or first of all, to do the scam in the first place. Yeah. You shouldn't be doing that. But then to do the scam and then put yourself out there even more is just not. smart at all. I think Teresa and Joe got themselves in trouble mid-show. Like I think they, or maybe it was, they probably were in dabbling before the show.

Joe was dabling. Joe definitely laid the groundwork on some illegal activity before they went on the show. The whole fan was dabbling before the show. But I feel like it probably picked up more in the show. And then, you know, that's how that went down. But with this, this show has only been on one season. there's no way she just started picking up scamming as a side activity in the middle of Real House

and Salt Lake City like that's just not how it goes and she once said that her assistant Stewart would do anything for her. Yeah, anything. Yeah. And we've definitely seen Teresa allude to the show blowing up like their business problems more. Like kind of like you know there was reunions and things where she, it felt like she insinuated that someone on like,

perhaps the Manzo side, like literally called the FBI to like report them for this stuff. And like that's how it all happened. Like there's been times where you're like, it seems like she really thought that. So obviously putting yourself a reality TV opens you up to all of this. And everybody's asking these questions. And who knows how long the, uh, the justice department has been putting together this case against her. But this week, she was arrested. So in a statement, the Justice Department in a statement announced charges of conspiracy to commit wire fraud and money laundering,

alleged that Shaw and her first assistant, Stuart Smith, conspired to defraud older and computer illiterate people by operating multi-state telemarketing and in-person sales teams that would sell essentially non-existent services and fight consumer efforts to obtain refunds. So not only is she scamming people, she's scamming old people. Like she's scamming people who are confused and don't know what they're signing up for. Well, that's the thing. And apparently this started in 2012. The alleged scam began in 2012. Shit. You've been doing this for so long.

She's been in the game for so long now. Maybe that's why she thought she'd never get caught. She probably got herself caught by being on Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Like if this has been going on. since 2012. That's a long-ass time. That it's really no coincidence, in my opinion, that within the same year of her getting on a reality show is the same year she gets caught. Yeah. She fucked herself. And when you said, you know, she's targeting people who are confused and old and they don't know what they're doing. Like, that's how scammers get away with shit, though. They target, they target those people because they know that they're going

to scam them successfully because they don't know what they're. they're doing. Yeah. Yeah. No, that is correct. That is definitely how they've been, they've been doing this for so long. And yes, the question everybody wanted to know was, are they filming season two right now? And they are. The cameras caught this go down. Thank God. This is going to be unbelievable. Like, we saw her leave, we saw clips of her leave courts. Now, there's also a lot of, there's a whole situation with like the Zoom, a arraignment because like hundreds of people were on the zoom and then she wasn't able to get on the zoom and people were not like it was just a shit show like people weren't on mute like the judge was trying to get people to go on mute um and i think the arraignment got moved to friday actually because they weren't able to do it on this zoom that had all these people but this is allegedly how it went down the cast was filming they were getting ready for um a cast trip, I think. They were going somewhere.

And she got a call. She then told producers that she needed to leave because her husband was in the hospital saying that she needed to like leave immediately. And she left and then like five minutes later, the FBI shows up to where they all were asking for her. I try to find her and she had left. And apparently cameras caught like the cops talking

to the other housewives and them showing up. It's pretty crazy. I was trying to find the whole screenshot. I forget the whole thing, but it was just, there was one full clip. I forget where, I'm not going to be able to find it right now. But it does, it just does seem like this blew up completely on the show, too, and that there were cameras at the courthouse when Jen was leaving.

Obviously, they weren't inside, but they were filming outside. This is like the messages coming through, like all of a sudden, Jen had to leave filming quickly because of an emergency with her husband, then the feds showed up. It's like the fact that they were filming is unbelievable. It's chef's kiss. It's, yeah. It's perfect. This makes for a must watch second season, which I think we were all going to watch anyway.

The first one was great. I think everyone was planning on watching the second one. So it's great they were filming this. I hate when something like this happens with reality show people and then they're not filming. Like when everything went down with like Brody Jenner and Miley Cyrus and Caitlin, it was like, oh my God, how is this going to be on the second season? And now it's been so long since that happened and so long until the second season is out

that like that's not going to be in it probably. I mean, we'll see some stuff, but like we're not going to get it right when it's happening. So the fact that they are filming right when this is happening is fucking awesome. I can't wait to watch it all unfold. And you know, Jen was not well received in the last season. She wasn't. So I feel like she's not going to be well received this season. And then maybe her time will be done because I mean, who knows, you know, like Teresa is still on real on Real House House of New Jersey.

So it's not like they're against people. people who commit fraud. They're not like, oh, Jen Shaw is, is morally corrupt. So we have to get her off the show. But however, this is like Jen's business. Like, I feel like this is Jen run, like Jen runs these businesses, I think. And to, I don't know, Teresa, there was more of like a playing. Yeah, like, I was more on Joe's.

Joe was doing it. Like, I was signing things. I didn't know. It was just my husband asking me to, like, do this stuff. And not as much, like, not as hands on involved. when it kind of feels like Jen was pretty hands-on involved with all of this. And on top of that, like, Coach Shaw, poor Coach Shaw. I don't know how much Coach Shaw knew of what was going, right?

Like, did Coach Sean know that this was going down? Did he know that this was how she was making her money? Did Jen hide this from him also? Like, is this going to affect his coaching career? Like, is he going to get fired because he's associated with all this madness now? There's just so many questions. So many questions. And a lot of my questions revolve around around Coach Shaw. And I hope there's a live camera on Mary when Mary found out about this.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. This is going to be so juicy. Like, this is one of those stories that I feel like because she downright fucked up and that's very apparent and she screwed a lot of people over, you are allowed to be excited for what's to come on the season. Right? Like, I feel like when something bad happens to a reality star and it's more serious and there's like more things involved and you kind of you have to be careful with saying you're excited right yeah like you're like you don't want to seem too eager about watching something like that but something like this or like oh this is juicy we need it on our on our screens immediately because it's not your classic i mean like we said we saw it with teresa and joe but it's not your classic real housewife storyline you get you get

the women fighting over he said she said and and other little drama. This is a big deal. It creates real life shit. This is a real life problem. It's a big deal. Yeah. Yeah.

No, there are moments, I think, that a lot of people talk about when it comes to, like, off-camera, Real Housewives situation. It's like, I've been binging, I've been binging Real Housewives in New York. I'm on season 10. I just watched Luan in her Palm Beach arrest.

So it's like there's these moments that happen. that are so crazy and so talked about. And then you do watch it play out on the show. There's not a lot of other reality shows that give that to us. You know, there are rumors that Erica Jane is going to talk about her divorce on this next season of Beverly Hills. So there's just been a lot of shit happening, a lot of legal shit. I got to say they've been, and, you know, I wouldn't be surprised. I don't know what Mary's, like, something about Mary's money too confuses me.

she's got a lot of nice things. And I just, another time that I'm just very confused with how all of those nice things came to be. But Bravo has been on top of their game, I will say. Like this season of New Jersey has been amazing. Summerhouse has been amazing. Like they're churning out some top notch content. They really are.

I'm all in. Obviously, we have been. But I'm all in on Bravo. And I fucking love Andy Cohen. I really do. Like after Summerhouse, I always find myself a, which whoa, I'm excited. Summerhouse is on tonight. I just remember I have something to watch tonight. I always tune in to watch what happens live after Summer House because I'm already

watching Summer House. So it goes right into that. And he is just so good. Like he, he, I always aspire to be more like Andy Cohen in terms of like interviewing people or like doing our show or whatever entertainment purposes. Because I'm like, he just, he gets the people going. He knows how to get them to say crazy shit. And granted, he gets them to say crazy shit because he's Andy Cohen. You got to make that name for yourself. But yeah, love it. You know, you know, Andy was just freaking out over this. Probably sneaking out over this. Smiling from ear to ear.

It's just, um, saying to his son, we did it, kid. We did it again. We've created another mega, mega moment in the housewives world. This will go down, you know, people were, people didn't know how Salt Lake City was going to go. I think everybody really did like the first season. They were into it. but you know you're trying to avoid that second season slump you want people to stay interested well here you go this is oh we got it quite a way to lock people in throw fraud into the mix we're watching

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Thank you guys. The world's most refreshing podcast. Yes. All right, everyone. We are here with a very special guest, our dear friend, Camille Kossick, who has been on this program many times before. I always call her a dear friend. Like we're best friends. I was laughing at program on this program.

Well, I said dear friend and then I was like, well, I must keep continuing to speak in the same tone. So then I went to program. Yeah. I like it. I am a dear friend. You're not just saying it. It's the truth. Okay, good.

That makes me feel better because I'm like, I'm saying dear friend. And then Camille in her head is probably like, okay, we're not that close. If a dear friend, then I love returning on this program every time. laser for this program today. Thank you for coming on. We're so excited to have you back. How's it going? How's life been? It's been good. It's been busy, which I'm happy to say because, you know, things started to slow down during the pandemic, which I was really, really excited about, the beginning of the quarantine life. But I really took advantage of it, put my head down, started designing things. I got a swimsuit line coming out. I got to audition for a wipeout, which came to fruition. I got the job. I shot the season. And it airs.

tonight on TV. So I'm really, really excited that myself, John Cena and Nicole Byer, we're all hosting the show that everyone's loved, been off the air for seven years now and we're bringing it back. And I'm excited. I get to tell the stories of the contestants and kind of hopefully bring joy to people's houses. I didn't realize, I guess, like, I just was so used to it being on TV. I didn't realize that it's, you know, been off the air. So, like, this, bringing it back, having these new vibes is, is super exciting. Did you what did what did you think about the show um while while you were filming it is it was it like as absurd watching it as what like because i can't imagine actually being there like there's one

thing watching it on tv and being like oh my god is that person okay it's another thing to witness it in real life no it was honestly terrifying at times for me because i'm such an empathetic person i always say there's two types of people in the world there's like say the three of us are walking together and Ria trips and falls. You know, there's one of us will be laughing and one of us, me, will be like, oh my God, stop laughing, Francesca. Are you okay? Like, but that was me every time someone wiped out.

I'm like, are they okay? Are you good? Like someone lost her wedding ring in there. And she got up a platform. She was like finished the interview. And then she was like, I just lost my wedding ring in there. And I like just got married. And I was like, oh my gosh, scuba guys.

Now, like we cannot move on. And so they're like, Camille, we'll find it later. I'm like, no, we need to find it now. Like, I really care for all the contestants and I get to know their stories and, like, you know, go through the adventure with them. And if they win, they win 25 grand. And it's really cool to know, like, some of these kids that are struggling or, like, can't, you know, are there to, like, prove a point with the obstacle, but win money for a great cause or for something that they've been, like, saving up for. So it's such a cool journey that I get to do, like, being that person to tell their stories. You can't be wearing your wedding ring in wipeout. Like, it's called wipeout.

What if you wipe out? Was that not a question going into it? I know she's excited to be married, but like you got to, everything's off. Everything's off the tape. Did you end up finding it? They found it. And it was funny because they were like,

Camille, we'll find it. We have to continue the course to stay on schedule. And I was like, okay, okay. And then like, you know, seven interviews later, so she came over and she was like, we found it. I just want to let you know, like, thank you for telling people to find it. Because I would have just like laughed. And I was like, no, we needed that.

So they found it. we're going to move on. That's good. And you've always wanted, you've done hosting before, but I feel like this has always been a dream of yours. You know, obviously you model and you act and you have all these things going for you. But I feel like you really, really love hosting. I do. And that's the thing, like when people will say like, you know, actress, model, whatever. That's stuff that I've recently done, like very recently done in the last few years. And TV hosting is something that I started falling in love within the seventh grade. Like we had this TV studio in our high school that was attached to our middle school.

I would go in and do the morning news every day. Like instead of going to home room, I would go to the TV studio in the high school in the seventh grade. And I would tell everybody. You were one of those. Yeah. What the weather was for the day. And then, you know, little as I know that ended up becoming like a huge passion of mine and what I wanted to do career-wise. But it's just so funny because that just wasn't the thing that took off the quickest.

It was the thing that I've been doing since, you know, 12. all 13, 14 years old all way up until now, just like constantly on the grind, whether it's internships or going to college for it or, you know, filling in for morning shows or grabbing the mic for Max summer for Sports Illustrated or Super Bowls. And because it wasn't on such a national, you know, level on the television, people didn't even know that I even did this before. So unless there's someone really close to me, no one knew that I've been doing hosting for, you know, what is it now, like 10 plus, 12 plus years.

So for me, it's been a long time coming. This has been like top of the list, dream job, like long-term goal. And so every time that I would get the call from the agency, like go out for this show, go out for this show. You know, it's really one of those things that like trust the process. It'll come in alignment, right time, right place. And the show coming during the pandemic, getting to do my chemistry reads and all that stuff this summer.

And then because the world is kind of on pause, only having to focus on doing that show for two months was, you know, it was amazing. I would not have been able to perform every day on that set if I had fashion week and travel for this shoot and daughters. Like I literally just had to hyper focus on the season. And it was it was awesome. And it's a family show. I get to just be me. It was like, you know, a couple of lines here and there to toss it over to John Nicole.

But other than that, I got to just react naturally. It was, it was meant today. Yeah, that's perfect timing. I'm so happy for you because I feel like following you for so long now. I feel like I've seen what you said, like your host. the Super Bowls and just jumping around and it seemed like that's what you are passionate about. So it's awesome to see. Have you, can you say what other TV shows that you've auditioned for that have been hosting roles before wipeout?

I, you know, I've never been told like you can never talk about this. But I can say generally, like there's reality TV shows that I've tried out for. And I, you know, I was off for the job for one of them to host. And I was like, wait, I haven't been, you know, I didn't work this hard in this field to come out and be somebody that not. Like I got the role because I went in and I auditioned for it. And I did it just to get more practice. I didn't know I was actually going to get it. And I just remember like constantly turning it down and they would up the money. And I was like, whoa, this is, I'm realizing that I'm doing this because I want a job that I like feel myself at every day. Like it's not, I'm the girl who's

the shoulder of crime. I don't want to like beef up someone's argument or why they're cheating or, you know, like I don't, that's not me. I don't, I didn't stay silent for this long and turn down jobs to come out on on this reality show TV host. So when the wipeout one came, you know, you know, with a lot of like turn downs of nose or then being told yes, but it's not being the perfect fit. Like I saw wipeout and I was like, I really want to get excited about this one, but like you just never know. And so when I kept getting the callbacks, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm going to start journaling about this. You guys know me in my manifesting stuff. So I'm really happy this one came to fruition because it literally is so perfect. Like kids can.

can watch it, my grandparents could watch it, my family could watch it, you know, and everyone, you literally can watch it and understand the English language and enjoy it. You know, it's just, it's a show for everyone. And I'm really happy and I feel like so many people have been like binge watching TV shows and movies and now we've got something fresh and new to the TV. So, but it's also something so many people are familiar with and have been waiting to come back. So I kind of like that familiarity with it. So that people are like, yes. Yeah. We love it. Yeah. Like I said, like I felt like it was. something that I didn't even know, like, was not on TV because it's, it would be always something

you would turn on to have a quick laugh. It's, it's one of the purest forms of comedy. It is. It's like, you know, you can have all this sophistication and whatnot, but when somebody eats shit, it will never not be funny. It just won't. It just won't. So it's, I'm sure everyone's going to be really excited to watch and watch you on it. And you said, you know, this is, you may manifest. You're so good at this stuff. I always see you posting on your on your Instagram stories and things that you're, you know, you put it out in the universe. You make it happen. And one of the things that like stuck in my mind, I don't know why it has, but I was just like, wow, Camille. Like I got to start doing this because it works for Camille because I think you had posted like a screenshot of of texts with, I don't know, somebody who you work with. And they were like, well, what are you doing like blank weekend? And this was months ago. And you were like that Super Bowl weekend, work. going to be in Tampa Bay. And I was like, I was like, oh my God, she did it again. She did it again. You put it out there every time. And I get like embarrassed. I'm like, I shouldn't have shared that with them. And then I was like, no, but more power to the energy around that surrounding it.

But okay, this is, this is, this one's a little weird. And, you know, I total credit to the team and the boys that do it. But I took over for entertainment tonight that weekend. I was on air. And they were like at first i kind of like rolled my eyes straight like why why are you making me do this like why you make me put my predictions out there and in my mind like i was like man manifesting like i would talk to rob rob was like tap like used to my weirdness so he was like i would talk to him and i would be i was like i should just keep these to myself because like what happens if he doesn't score what happens if they don't win and i was like no no no we're not putting that out there and so i started telling him all these things that i've been like like thinking about for the team thinking about for him like putting this energy out

towards him and stuff. And then I was so scared because I was like, if all of this doesn't happen, he's never going to believe me again. And then I was like, I just believe in it. Camille put faith behind it. So I would tell him all this stuff. But then I was on entertainment tonight for a Super Bowl weekend. And they were like, hey, Camille, can you tell us your predictions for the game? And I was like, of course, I always have to be so truthful and like over to speak. And like, I can have to shut up. And I was like, okay, yeah, sure. And I was like, I'm predicting that Tom Brady's going to win a seven Super Bowl ring and that Rob's going to get two touchdown passes from Brady at the Super Bowl. So I was like, hold on, run the tapes back. Rob got two freaking touchdowns and Brady got a seventh

ring. So it was just cool because that's the stuff that I do all the time at home. And I was like, I guess I'm going to stay on TV. That's unbelievable. And then how did Rob react after? Was he like, okay, I believe you now? He always does. He just wants me to shut up when I go like in public. She's like, okay, Camille, we do that in the house. Let's keep that to her. ourselves. Yeah, no, even when I speak it now, that people are going to be like, Camille, you have nothing to do with that. Not saying anything to do with that. I'm just saying I felt that. Listen, I feel you. That, that shit is all real. It all happens. I really believe in manifestation and, like, just believing that the universe is going to send it back to you somehow. Yeah.

I mean, you got to work for it. Yeah. You can't just be like, oh, this is just going to happen. Like, you got to like. Yeah. Like sit on your your butt every day, like eating potato chips, looking at the cover of the magazine, be like, it's going to be me. It's going to have to do something. But it's just like that next, like, added thing that just really, like, levels you up. You know, every day when I'm overwhelmed, I'm like, wait, I pray for all these things. Like, I journaled about all these things. I thought about all these things.

Like, I'm designing a swimsuit line. I'm hosting. I'm doing these on-it tours. I'm, like, modeling. I'm in a movie with Ryan Reynolds. I have no acting background. Who? Why?

How? You know, I'm hosting. Like all these things that I'm overwhelmed with, I'm like, this is everything I ever could want. And I was like, how did this all happen? So it's, it's cool. Yeah. I think the last time we talked to, you were like very, it felt like maybe early stages of the of the swimsuit line. Because I remember, remember we were joking with you being like, make sure there's some bathing suit bottoms that like will cover your ass like from time to time. Sometimes you want the cheeks out. Sometimes you don't. But how has that been going? Like how has, when do you think we'll see that? I'm making an announcement tomorrow. But also, the two of you, check your DMs after this because you're on my gifting list. So I can't wait for this to wear the swims.

So I just need to know, do I send it to the office? Do I send you your apartments? But no, as soon as I saw, like, oh, my gosh, I was just looking at your names and you guys are two people I have to get the address from. And I had said, because I'm having, like, my agency you do the reach out. And I was like, oh, let me get them. I don't want to. Oh, that's such a relief because I was going to say, like, if you want to maybe send some over. No, no, you guys are on there.

It's actually, at first I had you as chicks in the office. And then I was like, wait, I mean, I guess I could send a package two chicks in the office. But I was like, I'm going to send one of brand. And then I was like, you have two different styles. And, like, I'm trying to, it was really hard to try to figure out what I thought was going to be best for you guys because I could send out the line. She'd be like, pick. but it just takes so long. So we're going to see what you think fits what you think that we would like.

But I think fits your personality and like what you'll like. Yeah. Heter to us. I love that. That's going to be super excited. Thank you so much. I'm so excited. I mean, you are always rocking a great bikini.

So I feel like these are going to be great. You are now back in S-I swimsuit. Is this the fourth year? It's so weird. That's so weird because I think the first time we interviewed you was when you were like in the process of maybe finding out if you were getting picked when you went to like that big audition, which I was trying to do the math in my head today. I was like, there's no way to four years. And then it is four years. It is. It's confusing though, because

I was literally a rookie in the 2019 issue. So technically it's like now I'm in the 2021 issue. This should be my second year. But I was in the pages when I was in swim search in the top six. So even before my rookie year, I had shot once in Belize. And then I shot my rookie year in Australia. And then last year I shot in the Dominican. And this year I shot in Miami. And I was like, where did the time go? Like, I remember doing a happy dance during swim search on my way to cheeks in the office.

Like I couldn't wait to go to bar store. That's my first time. And sitting down at the table with you guys in the old office. And I'm like, what has happened since then? So much has happened. So time has passed. It's crazy. I know.

It is. I just need to say, you guys have blown up. The people you interview, the fan base you have, like, you're full-blown, like have clothing line now.

Like, constantly selling out and redo it. Like, you guys just do it all. Your partnerships, your podcast, everything. It's just,

it's amazing to watch you guys. And I, I'm always, every time that I see, like, I'm so glad they still take me on because it's like, what else can we talk about?

Because I, come on. much. Thank you so much. I feel like whenever we talk to each other, it's like we just like gas each other up. It's like a little back and forth of just pumping each other up. Yeah, we have to. I feel like if you were to like interview Beyonce tomorrow, she probably wouldn't be like, and I'm so proud of you guys. I'm still like I'm going to be that person because like we're the homies. Like we are, we know each other. And yeah, you know, half the time it almost feels weird to come on here and promote stuff because I just want to like shoot the shit with you guys and

talk about nothing. Oh, I look, we've, and. And, that's why we love having you come on all the time because we do it's just like a check-in because we started like so we started around that same time and things blew up for for us so it's so cool because there are definitely like some people that we've had in the show who you know their name comes across on a town list again and we're like that was great but like you know we've had them on twice we don't need them on a third time like what we're run out every time they're like you guys want camille back we're like yes we would never say no it's It's like, why would we do that? No, no. Just for my, just for knowing you guys better, when did you, when, what year was it that you launched chicks in the office? Technically, technically 20, like the Instagram started in 2017. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. For my career with us, I started. Swim Switch since 2017, I was going to say, I think it's the same. Yeah, because that's when we did radio too. Oh, or maybe that was 2018. But 2017 was when the Instagram started. Yeah, I remember.

that. But how was shooting SI this year? Because things were obviously different, right? You did it in Miami. Did most people go to Miami or did they travel outside? So yeah, we partnered with hard rock hotels. So I did my, um, I stayed at the hard rock hard rock Hollywood. And then we kind of drove from there to Miami South Beach, which is so funny because, you know, it's a public beach. So there's people like gathered around. And I'm like, oh my God, you guys. Like there's like, Maraqqzi over there. There's like people and families right there. Yeah. But anything for the shot, anything for us. and no it was really fun you know it was I was bummed to find out that we weren't going you know internationally to find out like are we going to Antarctica are we going to where are we going to

Australia again but I'm so happy that they didn't um they they made made it a way to work and didn't take a hiatus off of launching the magazine and so they did hard rock Tampa hard rock Hollywood hard rock I think like Sacramento and it was cool it was just a couple of places and so this year they had like different things. themes since we weren't going to be in different places, like, internationally. So it was cool. It was like the first time that I had a theme shoot and got to, you know, channel a little Sharon Tate, little like, yeah. Oh, I love that.

I saw the pictures. I was like, this is such a vibe for Camille and what you had posted on your Instagram of like this head, like the scarf and like, yeah. Like it was the first time I ever got to use like props and stuff. So I was like, yes. Yeah. No, I loved it. It was really, really cool. And we can't wait to see the final product as always. we love seeing the magazine and seeing you in it.

It's so exciting. You also have just grown your family. You got a little pup. Yes, I was like, wait, what? April Fool's. No, you have a dog. It is April Fool. So head on a swivel, Camille.

But he is so cute. He looks. We look like Stitch from Leelow and Stitch. Oh my God. Yes. Wow. He's so cute. How did you guys decide that you were going to get a dog? I feel like you're both pretty busy or not even pretty. You're both very busy people. You know, traveling here, traveling there. What was the decision? How was it made? So Rob and I had to talk about a dog during quarantine. I mean, who didn't? Anyone who did have a dog was like, we're going to get a dog. And a lot of people did. And then we were realistic that when the world would start to over. open up a little bit more. You could travel again that we would be like, who's going to take the dog? You know, so we were like, okay, let's wait. And then we could not stop thinking about getting a dog. And Rob has said such a love for French bull dogs. I mean, the last time it was, I think, talking with you guys,

I had someone else's Frenchie, yes, yes, yes. He was like a big dog. And so Rob just loves, loves them. He grew up with bugs and his friend had a Frenchie. So he was like, I need one. They're snugly, but they run. They're like the best of both worlds. And then Rob said, listen, if I win the Super Bowl, I'm going to do it. Like, I'm wanting, I want to get a puppy. I want to get a Frenchie. And then he's a man of his word. He won.

And then, you know, two weeks later, he surprised me with this little man. He's like so chill. Yeah, he is really chill. So, he is really chill. He's, that's amazing. Honestly, that is the best case scenario. Norman was not like that when I first got him. Oh, he was just barking like,

crazy over Zoom. Like if I was holding him up like that, he would just go bananas. Oh, no, he loves it. Like, he's starting to fall asleep. He's just like a little baby. So cute. Oh. How, oh, they did. Man, he is adorable. So go, go ahead, Ria. No, no, you guys both just froze on, on my screen. Oh. No is. Oh, well, if we're, if, unfortunately, we have to wrap up anyway, we're getting the signal because some people, Kevin and Fidelberg, held you a little bit longer than they were supposed to. So they screwed us out of time. They screwed us out of time, which is, well, we'll take that up with them. Camille, thank you so much for jumping on and talking to us. Hopefully we see you soon. It's like really ridiculous. I feel like normally we at least get to see each other once a year. And I actually was just in the city really quick like yesterday and the day before that. But, I was like for work stuff, but I'll be back for sure. Next time you have some free time, you know, hit us up. Give us the call.

That would be so fun if we're available. Off cameras and just chill and yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So everyone can tune in to wipe out. It's on TBS. We're recording on its premiere day. You guys are all listening to this on Friday.

So you can catch up on last night's episode. Check out the premiere. It'll be on TBS. And you can check out Camille doing her field. field host thing. She's going to crush it. We're so excited to watch. Thanks, Camille. Yeah, thanks, guys. Bye. Thank you.

All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. When you hear from us on Monday, Fran will be released from her COVID quarantine, which will be so exciting. She'll be free. She's feeling better, no longer long-winded, hopefully, and out of breath. We're crossing our fingers for that, everybody. But we hope you have a great weekend, and we'll talk to you on Monday. Love you guys. Stay safe. Bye. One, two, three, four, tell me that you love me more.

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