Chicks in the Office - Bachelorette Hometowns Recap w/ Kit Keenan

Episode Date: August 4, 2021

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne, giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. And for this Bachelorette recap, we are missing a special somebody by the name of Trent.

You guys know him as Luggage Guy Trent. But we have a special guest. We are joined by Kit Keenan. you know her from the last season of The Bachelor and we are so excited to talk about this episode of The Bachelor with her. Welcome to the show kit. Hi guys, I'm so excited to be here, number one fan. We are so excited, you know,

we met out in New York a few weeks ago and I was just like, when you said that you listened and I was like, oh my God, you have to come on the show. I listen every episode. I'm like number one fan. So honored because I was so upset. I left before Fran ran in TV. And she was like, I ran into kids.

She was so excited. I was like, I'm so pissed. Now I feel left behind. But now you're here. And we are honored that you're such a fan because we're such a fan of you. Thank you. Thank you. Very excited.

It works both ways. So we're happy to have you here. We know so much went down this week. We're going to jump into it. It's hometowns. It's crazy. You know, my job was on the floor at the end of the episode this week. But we'll start off with the easy hometowns.

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Our queen. She's so cute. So cute. So hot. Blake's sister and brother were there as well. And I just... First of all, I want to talk about their date before we met their parents. They did like, you know, Canada.

They were in a little bar. played darts and what was the they played like truth or dare darts kind of it was like the balloon pop there was a little thing in the inside blake moines is just authentically himself all the time he it was like what's your two grab your two favorite body parts or whatever it is on katie and just like full blown ass grab loved it two cheeks he's so he's so himself and it's honestly very It is. How do you feel about Blake and Katie's connection? Because I feel like there's a lot of mixed reviews and I feel like we might be biased a little bit. Right. We're definitely pro Blake, but, you know, we're pro Blake. We're really pro-Emily Moines. So it's like we just feel like the

connections there. How do you feel watching it? I love them together because I feel like their connection is not super bachelory, if that makes sense. Like they seem like they seem like they would be dating just in real life. And I think, like, the show moves so fast that often you can kind of, like, fall into a way more serious relationship in a super short amount of time. And they just seem to be taking things, like, at a normal pace. So, yeah, I think their connection is great. I wonder where it will be after next episode.

But, yeah, I hope, like, I hope, like, I hope, like. I guess I just I'm I'm I'm rooting for Blake yeah is all I can say about that we are we're also rooting for Blake because like you said at this point I know but Kit nailed it with the word refreshing like I really think that their relationship is very refreshing and it does they the way they interact it does feel like they would be a legit couple on the outside like they have that connection I do like that Blake has been not kind of. rushing things trying to get his feelings out on his own time, which is why Emily Moyne's coming in was so great because she's like, if you love this girl, man the fuck up, man. It's time. She said, man the fuck up and tell her you love her.

Which I loved and that's why I said Emily Moynes. That's why she's got a book because she knows what she's talking about. First of all, that lady, I just need to talk about her for a second. The outfit, she just exudes confidence. She did a full fit detail video on Instagram today. I thought I didn't see it. I need to work at it. Like it was like, everyone's been asking about my outfit last night, like full outfit deeds. She just knows what she wants.

Yep. That woman knows what she wants and knows what she deserves and is letting everyone know how to get that. Like, don't you just feel like she's so comfortable in herself? Yeah. Emily Moynes. Yeah. The best mom that's appeared on that show. Yeah. It's been great. And the whole family does, like the way they all talk to each other felt very relatable and that they're his mom and his sister were like what's the deal like come on let's talk like let's let's

they felt like a real conversation compared to like sometimes the very skeptical conversations parents give and siblings give they're like blink if you like blink if you need to be rescued a lot of times like you're watching and you're like there's definitely

a process to this you know and like the parents seem to be asking like questions like all the right questions quote unquote And that hometown felt like just so real. And I think their connection seems really real to me. Because I feel like his family is familiar with the show. Exactly.

You know, like they're well-versed in what hometowns look like. And they were asking the right questions compared to parents who are like, I can't fucking believe my kid is on this show. And like trying to come up with questions that makes sense, but like not be super skeptical. Emily Moynes was like, I know how this shit works. Yeah, and that's why I think Blake and his family would be good for Katie, because at least they do kind of get how it works, whereas other families are a little bit more skeptical. They're like, what is this whole thing?

They've only heard about it through the grapevine. Like, they know the deal. They know what they have to deal with afterwards. So I feel like that's why it kind of makes sense. Yeah. But obviously, shit went down later on in the episode. Yeah, and that's a good segue into Justin's hometown because Justin's, Justin's parents. He's so cute.

Who the fuck is Justin? Justin's parents didn't show up. He's from Baltimore and, you know, they had their cute little fake Baltimore moments. And then it was just kind of like sad. And I'm curious, like, if you were Katie in that situation and Justin is like, my parents aren't coming, I feel like you automatically are eliminating him in your head. It's like, oh, your parents aren't like don't want to come. How could we get engaged? Yeah, I mean, I definitely agree.

I think I would be like, you know, you don't want to, like, write off your connection with the person because at the end of the day, it's you and that other person. But obviously, like, having the reassurance from the family completely changes things and, like, seeing how you would mesh with the family after the fact. Like, that's so important to know. So, yeah, I think I would be pretty devastated, like, if the person's family didn't show up. Yeah. Right? because at the end of the day it is like their connection that matters, but if your family doesn't approve of a connection, you may be having a good time with that person, but then underlying, there's always that weirdness with the family.

Like, your family is your family. Yeah. So it's going to be awkward at some point in your life, you're going to have to come to terms with it. And it's just like probably an uncomfortable conversation after that. It's also like, I just don't think you could get engaged that. Yeah. Yes. You know?

Like, you would at least have to meet the parents before taking that next up. So, and that's, like, the goal of the whole show. So, I don't know. It's a tough one there. And I think maybe our opinions would be different if we all, like, expected it to be Justin. Like, if Blake Moyne's family didn't show up, we'd be like, oh, what the fuck? Like, this is kind of, this is crazy.

Yeah. There's nothing there. I mean, I don't know. Katie. Katie at one point said Our chemistry is undeniable And I was just like What chemistry?

I'm missing something I know I always go back to the wedding valet They seem so friendly to me Like I just don't feel any chemistry I think they're I mean obviously We only see parts of their life While they're filming so I think that

We must be not like See all those little genuine moments make a relationship. And so I think, yeah, we're missing a little bit of that there. Yeah, I just don't know how she can say that there's a genuine connection with Justin when arguably the connection with Greg and Blake is way stronger. Like, I would just cancel out that connection.

I'd be like, there's not really a connection there. But once again, I guess we're not really seeing it. Right. If Justin sent himself home, Katie wouldn't be like, I'm leaving. Yes. You know, so it was, they said. salvaged the hometown. He had his two buddies come. But it was just, it had an underlying kind of like sad tone to it just because it was, I just imagine being like, yeah, my, can you guys like, please come? My parents won't come. Oh, that hurts. Yeah. And his friends were obviously there

for them. And they were very sweet and asked Katie like good questions. And they clearly know Justin very well. But even in Katie's shoes, I'd be like, oh, your parents don't want to come. Then like, I now now don't want to be with you. Meeting his two best friends feels like a fourth date, not like the date before you get engaged. Right. Like I would be at that point I'd be like Justin and Justin probably was out of the equation after that but then. Yeah. We have a ton to unpack here with Greg before we do that. Just a reminder, guys, if you don't feel like cooking, it takes too much time. It's too much prep. Daily harvest is the best, best, best solution. I'm telling you, their food is so good.

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for up to $40 off your first box, dailyharvest.com slash chicks. All right. There's a lot to unpack with Greg's hometown. There's so much. And I'm still confused. And what's hard is like, also to live tweeting the show

during the beginning of Greg's hometown, I went like, hell yeah, Greg. I feel like this is working. I'm liking Greg. I didn't really like him before. I'm liking him now. So I sent out these tweets like being like, yes, Greg, normal guy. I like it.

And then people are seeing those today and being like, oh my God, how could you? He's a manipulator. I'm like, okay, check the time, Sam. tweeted that at 905. It changed very drastically. But his hometown felt really, really legit because he opened up to his family so much about his feelings for Katie. Like it always kind of seemed like we weren't really sure where Greg stood.

But I felt like it showed a lot for him to say to his mom like, this is the one. Like, I don't know if you lie to your mom about that. No. You don't. No. I know you're on TV, but still. I know. I just think.

And he'd been saying that to Katie, too. Yeah. I feel like he really built up. this moment in his head and when it didn't go the way he wanted it to slash like tried to pretend he wasn't on the bachelorette he like threw a hissy fit i have no idea how to feel about gregg i know i have absolutely no idea and i actually i think i've decided i don't like if i've come to that conclusion at the end of this but here's i just want to be as honest as possible yeah yeah yeah so at first, at the beginning of the season, it was like, oh, Greg, he's great.

But then we started getting, it was like the actor vibe. He just wanted to be an actor. Is he too good to be true? Then we had a very strong feeling he was going to leave. Yeah. So is this a whole play, production to show that he really likes Katie, but really likes Katie? But then he actually really just wanted to leave.

So he made it seem like it was because he really likes Katie. Or you wouldn't say you're in love with someone then. Yeah. You wouldn't. you wouldn't say that. He wouldn't have said, I love you to her. Yeah. It was all like, well, that's why I'm so confused. And I also, I think Katie is acting kind of bizarre as well. How did you feel Katie? I like Katie.

I like Katie. Handled the reaction to like the group that hometown date was ending. And that's when, you know, he professed all of his feelings, laid it all out there, said, you know, you're feeling this hole in my heart. And clearly Greg has also been through a lot of trauma. Like he totally has not fully digested the death of his dad. You can tell that that's like having his brother be like, I don't even talk to him about that. Like makes it feel like he has some, maybe some personal growth and personal, some things that he has to get through himself. But Katie's reaction to that was, oh, like, she didn't really know what to say.

And then there was a silence. And then she was like, I just love looking at your face. And it was by far the worst thing. That's what I mean bizarre. Like, she's like, I just love looking at you. Yeah, I was like,

maybe there was a part we missed there of that conversation or something. Do you think they could have cut something out there? I don't know, but I just don't think she would respond like that. I, or maybe she was just like shocked by the emotion. Like I think sometimes, and from what we've watched,

um, she closes up a little bit in these uncomfortable moments. And I almost feel like in her mind, maybe she was panicking in like the, oh my God, this is everything I want to hear. Like, I want to tell him so much. And that's like why she froze. Because it's like I can't even find the words because like I'm still the bachelorette and I can't just be like, yeah, I love you too. And she already made that. She made that rule for herself. She really tried to stick to it. The rule of like, I'm not going to tell any of these guys that I love them while I'm still dating and while I'm still dating other guys while other guys are here.

What did you think about that? Do you think that was smarter for her or no? I don't think I would make that choice for myself. Yeah. Just because, like, I mean, with Clarentatious season, we saw that, like, you can do whatever the heck you want. Like, you can make whatever choice you want. But, yeah, I think I might not have made that decision. but I do get it like she wanted to be respectful of the guys that were still there.

Because like even with Justin, though we might not see how deep their connection is yet, like they still do have a little time there. And you don't know like how those things progress in the following week. So I get that. But I don't know. Maybe it would have like panned out differently if she hadn't made that role. I think it's a dumb rule because how are you supposed to like, how are you supposed to paned out differently, I think. How are you supposed to get engaged to somebody without telling them that you love them? Yeah. I would not get engaged to somebody if we did not exchange I love you's. Right. To have the expectation that Greg or Blake or Justin was going to get down on one knee and say like, will you marry me without actually hearing the words, I love you from her? Choose one of them. Right? Like if you love one of it or even if she ran away with Greg in that moment, like the bachelor, I feel like would have been fine with it because.

Then they would have had the drama of like Caitlin and Tasia going to tell Blake and Justin like Katie's gone, Greg's gone. Like it's over. Like she was like, you know what? I fucking love you. And he was like, I love you. And they ran off together. Great love story there. This is like, okay, you're not going to tell any of them you love them.

Maybe you feel like you love all three of them. I don't know. But at least let them know a little bit because then they're afraid to say it. Because I feel like with Blake, when we saw the whole, like, he felt it, but he wasn't sure if he should say it. Because I feel like he almost thinks, well, she's the bachelorette. She should be saying it to me, usually in real life. You're like, the guy should be saying it to me. There's a very confusing situation.

And then, once again, how are you going to get engaged without saying, I love you? Because then what if you do get engaged and then you exchange the I love you and they're not like as passionate as you thought they were. It's kind of like a kiss. Yeah. Or like having sex. Like, I don't know. Yeah, and he clearly was uncomfortable and devastated by the whole thing. He goes to Katie's room, you know, the next day, so we are made to think.

And he, like, and I said it during cutting stems, you know, hurt people, hurt people. And clearly he was hurt, and he did not like the way that conversation went. But he really didn't give Katie any chance to redeem it. Like, she was fighting for it. He was really trying to fight for it and he like, it seemed like he'd already closed the door. Like he went on this whole speech and, you know, not about the roses and the who's number one and all this, like trying to make it like this is real life. Like I thought you were my person. And she seemed like she was trying to give it back to him or at least hint to him like, I know like you've always been my number one.

But he just used everything that she was saying against her. That's where I started to not like him. Yeah. That's where he lost me. Because I was like, all right, well, now you're just coming across angry. Yeah. And like, she is kind of being like. Yeah.

And he's just not taking it. And he didn't have to leave. You know? No. Because I feel like it's one of those, like every couple or every relationship is going to have a bad interaction or fight like this. But if they had this bad fight, right, and he stayed, then maybe the makeup conversation would be even stronger. Don't you feel like that happens sometimes? Yeah, totally.

I think that it was like a switch for him and it was just like, I can't do this anymore. And I think it's like such an emotionally taxing process that like once you're not ready to fight for it anymore and like fight through how tough it can be while you're there, it's just like you can't. You can't do it anymore. And I feel like he in that moment was like, I. cannot cope anymore with this. Yeah, I agree with you and I think that he like the whole, like when he said, you know, what am I supposed to do?

Like just next, get a rose, fancy sweets, make love to you. I was dying. I was like, oh my God, this is unbelievable. I know, I was like, oh my God, make love to you. While Justin's just hanging out with his besties. I know, like, during this whole thing, it's just crazy to think about the fact that like there's two other guys, Blake, they have the connection. Justin's His best friends are that. I know. When he said that, it made me realize that, like,

this spiral that he just went on was going to happen at one of the other points going forward. Like, he was spiling here. It could have happened when, like, he saw someone else leaving on a fantasy suite date. Could have happened when he thought, like, somebody else was looking at engagement rings. Like, I just feel like this panic attack and that he had in this moment, like, of I got to get out of here was, was, was, very emotional and it did feel like a really legitimate

conversation that like a boyfriend and girlfriend has when they're trying to discuss like whether or not they should get engaged. You know what I'm saying? It definitely felt familiar. It felt like Greg being like the one being like okay like I'm ready

like I'm ready to propose and for the girlfriend to be like oh well like let's talk this out and like let's see and the boyfriend's like well if you don't want to. do I'm gone. And that's what I mean by. Like if they had a follow-up conversation, maybe they work it out.

Have sex in the fantasy suites and it's like fireworks and they're like, all right, let's work this thing out. Or private time without the cameras in the fantasy suite. I just think like it's so, once that switch was turned for him, he was just like, I can't do this anymore. And I can't also like give my whole self to you. Katie was on her knees.

outside, like literally on her knees, like, holding him. This was the heartbreak she was referring to. Clearly. This was the heartbreak she's been referring to in her interviews. That was what, I mean, it was really tough to watch. How does she end up with Blake or Justin at this point? I don't think that happens. You don't think so?

If she does, how do we react to that? How do we like? No, this is one of the most devastating brain. makeup that this show has seen and I compared it. Remember when I was telling you in Trent, like I compared it to a long time ago with Desiree and her

like top guy going home and it was this whole big thing and you could tell that he was always the front runner but she still got engaged to Chris like who was on the show. Everyone kind of thought he was just like the second choice but they are married

and have kids and like you know I seem to have had a happy life but like that breakup between Desiree and Brooks was like not so not as what felt like dramatic as this is for Katie to say like I told you to Greg's face like I told you like if you're gone like I'm done like I'm leaving I'm not going to do this anymore and he still left and that was also where I thought like I'm started to question his intentions because when he was like I'm leaving and after she said that he didn't even try to be like leave with me but I'm just like I just don't think the whole

thing that people are saying that Greg is like fake and he's an actor and all that. I just like you would not tell someone you love them. Because imagine if Katie had been like, I'm in love with you too. Then there's no. Yeah. I like your face. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's just You got yourself in a pickle. I just think like it's such I can't even describe like how

emotional that that process is, that it's just like one tiny little thing. And I mean, I guess to him, it really did not feel tiny. But like, in that moment, he was just like, I can't give myself to this process anymore. Like, I'm too scared and I'm too,

like, broken. Do you think that he may have gone about his language the wrong way? Because I think even Katie on her Instagram story, like, posted a slideshow, like, about gas lighting. Because that's what everybody was saying that Greg was gaslighting her and even last last night Katie like added it to her

Instagram story. It was like you know the Instagram account so you want to know about yes that was it was so you want to know about gaslighting and it was like wait what is what does it mean in that situation? I think it was I think she was referring it to that sit down the net in the morning or whatever that was of him trying to tell her how that interaction went. like she wasn't a part of it. You know? Okay. Like, kind of being like, you did this and you made me feel this way and like not hearing Katie's side of it at all

and just letting it sit as like I laid all. I did everything that I was supposed to do and you're, you didn't give me the one thing that I needed back. And now I'm just like, now I'm done. I do agree that that conversation, like, it was definitely. like one-sided almost in the sense that like Greg was not

going, he was not listening to anything she was saying in that moment. Like he had already made up his mind. It seemed like when he went into that conversation, I can't do this anymore. And she was like fighting and like basically at that point telling him everything that he needed to hear and he was like not responding to that. I don't think he liked all the bachelor lingo too.

Like I think he maybe got like like you said, got so fed up with the process in the show that he was like, I don't want to hear about fucking roses or being number one or next week or fanages sweets. Yeah, and you're like, well, this is the show. And Katie's like, I don't know what to do here. I'm trying to communicate with you that I want you in the words that like I'm allowed to use. I feel like, obviously like, I think they were both kind of wrong in the situation in different ways. And yes, Greg, like trying to explain to Katie what happened is wrong. Yeah. But I feel like in Greg's mind.

maybe he got so worked up that he just convinced himself that Katie felt a certain way because he was upset by it and that's how that was delivered. You know what I mean? Also, nothing is kind of like this is the way you feel because in his head he's upset

and he feels like that's what was done to him even though telling somebody the way they feel and the way they acted is wrong and gaslighting. That's like the worst. Somebody trying to tell you how you feel is one of the worst things. Oh, it's terrible, but I've been in that situation where I'm like, you feel this way because in your head, your own insecurities are telling you that they feel that way even though they don't. Yeah, I promise you, I don't feel the way you're saying.

Exactly. I feel. But it just didn't get through to him. He really was out and Greg's gone. Now we got Justin and Blake. I mean, I felt so bad for Katie. I was happy that Caitlin was there in like that moment because it's like I just feel like either her or Tasha is a good person to be like look this is a crazy crazy time like when you get to the end here and have to navigate these situations. But we are ending with Blake and Justin not knowing what's going on.

Greg's gone. Katie's like I want to go home. Do you think there's any show? that Katie's engaged next week? I mean, they said that next week is the final episode. From that conversation with Caitlin in the bathroom, it's just like I do, I would imagine it's very hard to kind of like just fall in love now, like, and be super happy and give another relationship like your whole heart.

I think from that conversation, she seems very, very. devastated. I hope that she is able to work on another one of their relationships that are still there. I think they're both great guys. And I again, like to your point, I'm so happy that Caitlin and Tasha are there because having Caitlin go into the bathroom at that time, like, I couldn't have asked for anyone better to do that and be there for Katie. So, So, yeah, I'm just very thankful that they're there. I, obviously, like you said, the way this looks, it seems like it'd be impossible. Like, you're heartbroken.

How do you just jump in with somebody else? I think she might be done with the process. For the shitstorm, though, I hope she's engaged. I hope she's engaged because I want to know everyone's reaction to her being engaged. Yeah, I kind of feel like she might also now just be done with this whole process in general, not necessarily done with the guys, if that makes sense. Like, I feel like she might be like, I'm not getting engaged. At the end of this season, I'm going to go home.

Maybe she's able to talk to these guys afterwards. Maybe she was able to talk to Blake or Justin or whoever it is. Bringing it back to Blake, like, real life-wise, they just still always made the most sense. So in my heart, I'm hoping that, like, this can end and they can talk. be like, okay, let's talk now, like, not on the show. Yeah. And see what happens.

And honestly, Blake seems like the type of person on the show that, like, wouldn't really want to follow the normal process anyway. Definitely. So I feel like that would maybe be, like, the best situation for that. Yeah. Like, I think for Blake, if Katie was like, you know what, I'm done, I'm going home, but like, Blake, I'll call you in a week. He'd be like, great.

I feel like that's kind of the likely situation at this point. She needs time to go home, process what happened with Greg. get over that and then see if she could really get back into a connection with one of these guys, and I'm assuming it's Blake. How do we think that after the final rose is going to go? Intense. Dude, it's going to be crazy. I already have like goosebumps thinking of Katie and Greg having to talk to each other because

there's no chance they've spoken. No chance. Noah said this like revitalize the season or just like the show as a whole. Yeah. And I agree with that. Oh, Kelly and I were buzzing to get on cutting stems. Like, we were just like, what just happened? I couldn't believe we haven't had that much of a, I don't even know, it's not even necessarily drama.

It's just like, it's drama, but it's also like intensity. Yeah. It's also like a test of the whole like format of the show, I think, which. it needed to be shaken up, I think, a little bit. And this definitely, like, changed the game. It's two new hosts. Like, the process is kind of being worked out in a different way. And from what I have seen Katie say online and stuff, like, she has no regret.

So I think that, like, I hope that whatever happens in the coming weeks that we see is, like, genuinely the best for her. How did you think Katie handled? being the bachelor's, like, as a whole. I mean, I think she killed it. I actually, like, seems like the hardest thing ever. Yes. Because everyone is like, you know, obviously I would want 30 plus guys to be obsessed with me and, like, want to date me, obviously.

But then when you're there, you're like, oh, my God, I am, it's just every episode. She's, like, pouring her heart out and, like, talking about very serious, like, traumatic things that have happened in her life with people that she's known for such a short amount of time. After that, it's just such a whirlwind. I would actually have to be, like, alone in my room for probably a month after.

Hard degree. Yeah, yeah, definitely. So we're very unsure what is, what is going to happen, what the conversation is going to look like between her and Greg. I don't, I'm interested. to see

to see Greg's explanation. We'll find out. We don't know what any of these people are thinking at this point in time. Everything's a shit show right now and I am excited for next week. So much raw emotion.

Like I could really talk about Greg. I think I'm going to talk about Greg to everyone for like the rest of the week. Like just to be like, what do you think? You watch The Bachelorette? What do you think about Greg? I think everyone is, I think it's split. I've seen people.

I know what? I love that. Because I hate when people and we see it with this franchise all the time, when there's one opinion and everyone just goes with that one opinion and if you like slightly differ from it, you're like a crazy person.

Whereas this one, I feel like it's kind of like it's just not as, this situation is not as one side of it. No, it's not. It's like they're both wrong, they're both right and people watch this show with like a totally this is like real

raw emotions and then people watch it with like a lens of like this is reality TV and that always creates different opinions and why we're here talking about like I always fall on the side of like if those were fake emotions from Greg he deserves an egot you know that I usually I'm like this shit's fake yeah real yeah I'm I'm on the real side for this one I like that noted yeah usually I'd be like this shit's fake yeah real yeah he got me and the make love to you and the line. I can. I can't.

I'm uncomfortable. Stop. I'm sorry. I just stop, stop, stop. I just keep going back to it. It was just like the cracks and tears and his voice and like everything. I was just like, this feels very legit. So people can believe him or not believe him.

We'll get to hear from Greg himself next week and see what happens. But quite an ending to this season. we knew it was going to be dramatic and it is delivering. And Kit, thank you so much for coming here and recapping with us. It was such a treat. And next time you come back, we'll really talk about you, you know? Literally. Of course I come on for like the most dramatic episode.

I couldn't come on and like judge the first like limo walks. I have to come on and like judge the harsh like, like, oh, this is like, this is a good shit. You had to come on here and talk about real legit emotions. people's hearts and feelings. Too much.