Chicks in the Office - Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad Interview + David Spade BIP News

Episode Date: June 4, 2021

David Spade to guest host Bachelor in Paradise (11:18-15:33). Travis Barker shades Amelia Gray with IG like (15:34-25:08). iCarly reboot trailer (27:00-35:10). Harry Jowsey & Francesca Farago drama (37:17-48:12). Interview with Becca Tilley & Tanya Rad – talking life in the podcast world, putting our PCAs "beef" to bed, Grey's Anatomy, Tanya's Harry Styles experience + more! (49:57-1:33:45). CITO merch > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat & our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. How are we doing, Francesca? Happy Friday. Happy Friday.

It hit me right in the face yesterday that it's June. Yeah. Not on June 1st, but yesterday. I was like, oh, fuck, it's June. flying by, I just need to get on the beach. The weather looks nice this weekend. I need to get on the beach. I'm having one of those days, like an E-R day,

where everything's just bothering you and you're just like, I can tell. I got the sniffles. Yeah. I'm getting my period. I didn't put any makeup on today because I just was lazy. I went to the dentist. They tore my teeth apart, so my mouth hurts.

You could have started with that. I got a pimple. It's a tough day. It's a tough day. But you're going to get through it because this weekend. the weather looks beautiful. I just need some sunshine. Yeah, we're going to get some sun. We're going to get the good old vitamin D. The UV rays are going to be popping this weekend. We're going to get that sun in our veins. And we're going to be feeling good. I'm feeling good about the weekend.

I'm feeling good about the weeks to come. Although, something's been happening on my TikTok that is very concerning. On your, on your TikTok? On my TikTok on my for you page. It is very concerning. Every single TikTok. talk, every single one, is just people card reading. They're, you know, the tarot card reading? Tarot card readings to me. Or signs. To you? They just say this is for you.

Or here's this sign that this is happening or manifest this. Every single one. And I'm getting very confused with all the signs I'm getting. I feel like I'm just scrolling through my For You page for hours taking all these signs. in that are not even directly to me. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You can't be taking that, though. I know, but they trick you and they're like, if you scrolled past this, this means this sign was for you. And then I watch it. I'm like, oh, that relates.

Yeah. But I. You and every other person who just scrolled past it though. I know. Like you and like an 80 year old, not that, I don't know, maybe there's a bunch of 80 year olds on TikTok, but like you and an 80 year old man could be watching the same TikTok. I don't know if that you're getting the same life messages. We are getting the same life messages through the TikTok, but probably not relating in any way, shape, or form in real life. It's a problem.

I don't know what happened. Why this is happening on my for you page. It's not like I'm seeking it out. It's just non-stop. It's killing me. You got to go through a rebrand. Like, you've got to start liking other videos and stuff. I don't like any of those videos.

I don't even know how they came on my... I never liked the beauty and skincare ones, but it's all I get. And I don't like any of them. I had to actively go, like, like. other stuff. This is fucked up, but it shows you how much TikTok is listening to you. I think it's because I've been spending a lot of time with my sister. And she is very into all of that. But it's not like we've been talking about it constantly, but that's like her entire vibe. Her whole apartment is covered in crystals and she has the cards and she's always playing

frequency YouTube video. Your phone is listening. And I think that they think it's me. Right. And the phone is just feeding all of this to me. And it's confusing my life. Yeah. I think that's exactly what's happening. It's taken a toll on my life.

The phone is just soaking it all in. Soaking it all in at all times. Crystals. It's crazy. I'm like, do they, they got the wrong persons for you, page. Yeah. They meant to tap into my sisters, but they're tapping into mine. Yes.

And that's also a slippery slope for you because you'll start taking those things to heart. I have been taking up to heart. You know I have been. I've been. No, I know. I think you're going to start taking actual life advice from these TikToks and that's not a good idea.

No, it's a very dangerous path I'm on. It's like, it's like this, this letter person is thinking of you and it's like Z. I've never met a person in my life with Z and I'm thinking in my head like. Never met a Zach? I probably have, but no one in my life named Zach is pretty prominent.

Yeah. Either way, I think maybe I just need to. stop scrolling TikTok or stop spending so much time with my sister because the signs, the messages, everything I'm receiving is too much now and I don't know where to go. Too strong. I don't know

which way is left, which way is right, which way is wrong, which way is right again, but I didn't want to repeat myself. Fuck. Left right, wrong and right. Oh, that was bad. Up, down.

All around. Whatever. I just, it's, it's, It's becoming too much. And I want back to funny things. Okay. You know, like last night, I do the same thing every single night. Every single night of my life is the same. And I get into bed.

I smoke a little bit. I get into bed. And then I think, do I want to get up and eat something? Or do I just want to go to sleep? Yeah. Nine times out of ten I'm getting up and eating something. I snacked way too much last night too. And I had a full on cheeseburger last time when I worked.

I was like, I need... To be really honest, I looked at that cheeseburger and was like, did she go downstairs and make that? No, we had my, I was out on Long Island and my parents made cheeseburgers and hot dogs for dinner. So I knew. Yeah. You knew they were down there. I knew they were down there. And I couldn't, there was a lot of hot dogs, which I already had three for dinner.

So I assumed that's what happened. Because I saw the stories and was like, you posted the, which you drew very nicely, by the way. Thank you. The burger. Put a lot of time into that. Yeah, you did that very well. Like, I was like, oh, she did a good job with that. And I thought that that was the signal that you were, like, going to order McDonald's or something.

And then you posted that burger. I was like, that's a beautiful burger. Does she just make that? Because I know that's not a McDonald's burger. No, no. I thought it almost looked like a McDonald's burger when I saw it. Oh, wow. I didn't think so at all, to be honest.

Did you eat a cold? It didn't have the, it didn't have the sesame season on the bottom. And I think it's because the cheese wasn't melted all the way on that one that I picked. I think that's people had a problem with that. bigger pickles as well. Yes. I love the bigger pickles. You had an exposed pickle and you don't normally get an exposed pickle on a McDonald's burger. No, but it was just, it was killing me and then I went, opened up my TikTok, the first thing that popped up, I took a screenshot out of it.

The first. Something about like late night eating or something? It was literally like, when I'm trying to, eating healthy to get in shape for Hot Girl summer, getting stoned at 11 p.m. And eating the entire kitchen. It was like the, and this was 11, 27 p.m. It's like, yo, stop looking at my shit. They're, they're listening to everything. Everything. Everything. I bet when I open on my TikTok later, it's going to be TikToks about how TikToks are listening to everything.

I haven't gotten a, I haven't gotten this ad before, but I'm wearing these blue light glasses right now. And I just opened their nectar and I just opened my phone and was going through my Instagram stories. And literally like, literally like, going through the Instagram stories got a nectar nectar ad I was like I didn't even say the name out loud Right at this point I'm like But I'm wearing them

Just take me you know Yeah you know they have everything If you think you have any privacy you're wrong You don't You don't all of our information Now they now Apple has that thing too Where you like they have the commercial about it And it's all like you open an app

And it's like do you allow Like will it allow you to track your data While you're using this other apps Or other apps to use your data in other apps. And you're just like, oh, so you're just taking everything. And it asks you, do you allow? Yeah. And I click don't allow, but I know they're taking it either, right? It doesn't matter. Yeah. They need you to just click something. Yep. And they're going to take it no matter what. Whatever. The world is watching us at all times. And that's just a matter of fact, guys,

get that through your head. You're never alone. Yep. Someone always watching you. That'll help the people with severe paranoia. Yeah. Let's get into the topics for today's show. We have a very fun show because we have Becca Tilly and Tanya Rad who we love and adore and it's been a long time coming. If you've been listening to us ever since the People's Choice Awards and you know that, we talk all about

that. It was very funny and they're so much fun. So we had a great time with them. We're also going to be getting into the topics. David Spade will be filling in for Chris Harrison on Bachelor and Paradise in some capacity. Travis Barker is liking shady comments about Amelia Gray and the double date they all went on.

I Carly is officially coming back and we a trailer to prove it. And we're going to give an update on the Francesca and Harry situation from Too Hot to Handle. I know we haven't talked about it before. But now that it seems like things are maybe dying down, maybe wrapping up, who fucking knows, I just watched it recently. Watched Too Hot to Handle recently. So now I'm very involved in their relationship. Yeah. Just one year late. I was one year late, but I was, it came out the same day as Outer Banks. Yeah. And everybody knows how I felt about Outer Banks. So Too Hot to Handle didn't. have my attention at the time. But I just watched it and I liked it a lot. So let's get into it,

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I don't know. Maybe further in the future. But it seems like there may be bad blood. But it looks like David Spade. Yes, you heard that correctly. David Spade is stepping in. We don't know if it's as the full host of the entire show, but he will be filling in for Chris Harrison in some capacity. At some point, yeah. And I'm really excited for this because, I mean,

that's amazing. David Spade jumping into the Bachelor, Bachelor universe? What did we do to deserve such a funny guy to step in? It's a good, it's a good way to break up Paradise. Like, Paradise is meant to be a lighthearted, fun show. And the host is really not involved in Paradise, like, at all. More, I would say Bachelor and Bachelor. it. Paradise, not so much. It's really fueled by the contestants. And David Spade is the first name that's been announced. Apparently, there's going to be other comedians and whatnot who are going to be in Mexico for this. David Spade is also one of those guys that is a bachelor fan. People probably don't know that. But I can recall going through, you know, articles or whatnot or seeing a

tweet or seeing like something headline like 15 celebrities you would never guess watch the bachelor you know like this shit like that and you would go and you'd look and it'd be like Amy Schumer like there's a whole list David Spade was always on there so he's familiar with the franchise like he watches the shows and he knows who these people are so I think that's going to be very interesting and he'll definitely have some very funny commentary yeah I think that it's a great choice. I know that everyone was like, whoa, taken aback. But I think it's a good middle ground on what everybody wants from Bachelor in Paradise. I feel like the people... Give us some laughs. Right. There are people who want Chris Harrison back. There are some people who don't want Chris Harrison back. But I think

if you put David Spade in the mix, everyone's happy. Because everyone's going to be laughing. Everyone will be having a good time. It won't be so serious. I do, I did see some people saying like it may turn into a parody type of thing, which is fine by me because I feel like Paradise already has that type of feel with their intro song. You know, it's very joky. It already seems like a parody. So yeah, I mean, that's probably where I'm going to go all purist because it's like they actually have some of the most success for couples coming out of Paradise that they do Bachelor or Bachelorette, you know. Yeah, but I don't think David Spade's going to stop anybody from being together. Oh, no, no, no. I don't think that at all. But I guess I see people being concerned that like it'll be more

ha ha jokes and stuff than it is like, ooh, those people are like actually falling in love. Well, that's like fine too. Yeah. They'll still show both. I mean, at the end of the day, I doubt he's going to be involved so much. It's going to be like, he could be there for one episode for all we know. He could be jumping in, throwing a few jokes and then you don't see him. You don't see him for a whole other episode. So I think just having him involved in some way is also going to bring in a lot more viewers. I mean, just talking to people around the office, some guys were like, hey, I might watch Bachelor in Paradise because David Spade's going to be in it. And thinking back to past seasons of Paradise, when was, Chris Harrison was never really involved

that much. Like there would be episodes where you would go through and he would pop up at the rose ceremonies and you'd be like, oh, Chris. It's like, I kind of forgot he was even there because he's really not involved in Paradise that much at all. Right. So it'll just be a nice treat when David Spade jumps out of the bushes and tells a funny joke or two. Exactly. Travis Barker liked a shady comment about Amelia Gray this past week because Courtney Kardashian, Travis Barker, Scott Dissick, Amelia Gray. I think they all went out to dinner. There were some photos of that. And,

somebody commented basically saying how does a 2001 baby even fit in with this group of grown-ass adults it must have been awkward as hell. I think there was something along those lines. And Travis Barker liked the comment and I think that just confirms that it really must have been awkward because I think that and this I don't want to be throwing shade at Amelia Gray because I mean, she's a young girl and I don't know her at all. But you got three people who are way older. And then she's 19 years old and they're all sitting at dinner, having a conversation. And yes, I think people in Hollywood or kids in Hollywood grow up faster.

But that doesn't mean that their conversation is ever. elevated. You know what I'm saying? I just feel like even if you are growing up fast and you experience a lot of things at a young age doesn't mean that you can necessarily sit at a table with a bunch of 40-year-olds and they're going to be very interested in having a conversation with you and vice versa. Yeah. Life is, it's just different, you know, it's just 19-year-old. It's just so different than the life that Travis Barker has lived. and it just feels like something that they had to sit down and do for the kids. It's like, oh, like, you know,

United Front, let's make sure the kids know that we're all getting along and Scott and Courtney and want to have all the kids there and well, okay, if Scott's coming then, hey, can I bring Amelia? And it's like, Scott's bringing Amelia. It's like, okay, so Scott brings Amelia and they just kind of have to grin and bear it a little bit. It's just, it's hard to imagine that they're, is anything in common and you can give the benefit of the doubt and like oh you know some young people like get along really well i think i can have a conversation for hours with any

of any age absolutely but that's just me being cocky about myself well no i think you'd be comfortable if you were in her shoes i always wanted to hang out with my parents at all their adult parties yeah same and i did i always just sat around throwing my two cents in do i think i'd be able to like if you were amelia um i think i would of course be nervous because of who they are it's Travis Barker it's Courtney Kardashian whoa but at the same time I I think I would be able to hold my own conversation for sure she could be trying to impress to or just not even trying to impress or just quiet yeah like I think a lot of times probably that she went and maybe was just quiet that's how I picture it being and then that

turns into it being awkward if anyone like having dinner with your like significant others right regardless of age is right right Like Amelia doesn't even have to matter and that's still awkward. Exactly. And Amelia may be like not loving the fact that they're going out with Courtney. Yeah, yeah. They kind of have to do it. And I think that was a problem with Sophia and Courtney and Scott. I think that that was talked about. So it might be the same thing here. And I kind of feel like Travis Barker has no interest in hanging out with 19 year old girls. Like I don't know why. I just feel like he seems like a more mature. type of dude. And how old, I mean, he's got daughters that close to that age too, right? So it's a totally different feel. Like that's got to be kind of hard to wrap your mind around in that kind of situation when you actually start to have children that are that age and you have your, you know, sitting at the dinner table with them. But it's, and I think it's interesting because you watch this past season and you

see how Scott's been talking about Courtney and how watching. And how things didn't work with Sophia and you're like well then how does this work with Amelia and Amelia must just be more like yeah Scott like I understand but I you know it's also different now too because I think that with Sophia involved Courtney like wasn't really dating anyone and I mean Eunice whatever in and out but you know who Eunice and and and now like so Scott at the time it was like Courtney's will always like still be my number one priority kind of situation but now Courtney is like head over heels in love like head first into this new relationship she's with Travis so it's like Amelia probably doesn't have to worry about that as much because

Scott's probably a little butt hurt about it and like it's like well she's not going to be my time like now I'm going to put all this into this relationship with someone else yeah I I just think Either way, I don't know what these guys are doing sometimes. Like maybe Scott and Amelia do have a great relationship. Maybe they do get along. But it kind of reminds me I was watching The Hills. And Brody was saying that because in this season, he's like not drinking, but he's definitely drinking in real life.

Yeah. He was like, I want a girl who's like, you know, not drinking as a party, whatever. And it's like, well, when you date all 20 something, year olds, young 20-something year olds, they're probably going to want to be out partying if they're not drinking. Like if they're sober, maybe not.

But if they are drinkers, they probably want to be out drinking. Right. So maybe somebody your own age. I don't know. Or closer to that may work. Who knows? Who am I to say? Who might have to tell anybody what to do there? But I don't know. It seems like it's working out for Scott and Amelia as of now.

Is that a forever thing? Probably not. Travis Barker and Courtney Kardashian on the other hand. I want to like it. I do because I want to support Scott, but every time I see it, I'm just like, it just is cringe every time. Yeah. Like every post, like, I'm just like, ooh. Yeah, right.

We know nothing about Amelia, so it's like, you can't really. I always liked her on Beverly Hills. Yeah, I mean, it's right. It's like, that's all we've seen. And she seems like a very nice girl, beautiful girl. But no, it's no Travis and Courtney. Oh, wait. Another question that I feel like I thought when I was looking at her birthday post for,

Scott. What is with celebrities and in tributes to their significant other when it's like a photo, like slide of a bunch of photos, there's always a picture of holding hands. Not their faces, not their bodies. Like maybe they're in a car, maybe they're at dinner, maybe they're on the couch. But it's just of them holding hands. To prove that thing.

Like each other. It's just like, it is such a symbol of like, no, but it's such a famous person thing. Like I don't really see regular people doing that, but I see celebrities doing it all the time. I don't know. I think it's just maybe. They always post pictures of them holding hands. Aesthetically pleasing. You're like, wow.

It's artsy. Pretty hands. I don't know. This reminds me, my dad was popping off the other day because he, somebody in my family posted, it was like an anniversary, whatever. And I think it was my aunt. And she posted happy anniversary to her husband. Yeah. And my dad gets on the phone with her and says to her, why do you got to do that fake-ass

bullshit where you post about happy anniversary? Why can't you just tell him to his face? And I was like, dad, why are you getting so mad about this? Yeah, yeah. He was like, I'm just so sick. I've everyone so fake on social media. I was like, whoa, you want to come on the podcast? You want to come on the podcast?

You want to come on the podcast and talk about it, bro? You seem very passionate about this subject. God, don't ask him about happy birthday posts. I know. I was like, what? I feel like I've seen you post about mom. Like on her birthday. What is going on?

I don't know. Some people choose to celebrate on social media. But yeah, it's just when there's tributes like that, everyone always has a strong opinion. But the, I don't know, the handholding was something that I was just like, what's going on here? Why is everyone posting just their hands? To show that they're intimate. Yeah.

I guess so. I guess so. I feel like Travis and Courtney have done it. There was another, somebody else. I think you could think of like any celebrity that have pictures they post. Maybe it's just their way of like, it's also their way of putting it out there without an actual picture of their faces. But if they're posting happy birthday already. Didn't Travis and Courtney post like the tongue thing?

No, no, no. Yes. But I'm saying early on. Forget the example I just used. I'm saying early on, I think a lot of celebrities do that also on their Instagram stories, where it's like, ooh, are they dating? Are they not dating? Yeah, and they post the picture of their hands or whose hand is at? Whose hand is that?

I like it as a confirmation. Yeah. Yeah, well, just keep that in mind now when you're looking at celebrities posts about tributes, you know, for birthdays, anniversaries, there's always a hand-holding picture. I mentioned in the intro that I'm wearing some blue light glasses. They are from nectar. They're amazing. Nectar not only has blue light glasses,

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But I watched every episode of Fuller House, loved Fuller House. But it's like, that felt different because it was kind of more centered around new characters. And I don't really know how many new characters are going to be in I Carly, still centered around the same main characters. But it just, I don't know. It just didn't snag me as much as I. kind of thought it would. Here's the thing. I don't think it's marketed to us.

I don't think... I know, but neither was Fuller House. I understand that, but I think maybe Fuller House was marketed a little bit more to an older crowd, even though it was very young. Whereas I think... It's kind of like Girl Meets World, too. I think that with I Carly,

it's because so many young kids started watching I Carly because it was put on Netflix. Yeah. And they got... a new audience from that. Yeah. So all the kids that watched Icarly now are like, oh my God, we're getting more Icarly. Yeah. And they're happy about that, even though, you know, the characters aren't, the Gibby's not in it, Sam's not in it. And obviously, we're not going to be laughing as hard at these jokes. Because to be

completely honest, it wasn't even that funny to begin with. But when we were kids, we thought it was really funny. Some, some jokes hold up and some do not. Yeah. But, but, for entertainment purposes if I was a kid I think I'd be all in on this I I think I'd rather just keep rewatching the old I carly I'm sure I'm gonna check this out just to see what happens with it

and it's cool and I think it's a good idea and I think that a lot of people are gonna watch it but I don't think it's marketed to us I think that's why we're kind of like yeah and also because we it's a show that we knew and loved for so long and the characters aren't the same and so it hits

it sparks a nerve it might also be because I never really loved Icarly also really like that would make sense if you didn't love I Carly in the first place then what makes you think you're gonna like the reboot I don't know um I I watched all of I Carly yeah when it was on TV always watched like when it was on always watched it but I just never it didn't have the same pull for me like I just didn't really I never like went back and put on I Carly episodes if that makes sense Right?

Some shit was incredibly stupid. Yeah. Yeah. Like there were some very funny moments and they've, that have held up. And I do think like Spencer has had some very funny moments on that show. And same with Sam and like the two of them are on the show anymore. And I mean, Spencer is yes, but Sam no. And I feel like like I would always watch it for the new episodes to know what was going on.

But I never like went back and rewatched it or turned it back on. Like I haven't even put it back on since it's been on Netflix. And I really don't think I would enjoy it. as much as I didn't really enjoy it when I was still the way that you're explaining I don't think you would either and I will tell you and this is something I didn't want to admit but I will I when it went back on Netflix I watched a few episodes and for some reason and it's like other things in life that have scared me that are not actually scary

like that that's a Raven episode with Paula Abdul at the end that really scared me my whole life but it's not actually scary I was really I got a weird bad feeling about it And I felt scared. And then I slept over Brianna's house last week or the week before. And it was really late. And we were fucked up. And she was like, should we put on I Carly? Because we were going through Netflix.

And I was like, I straight up won't be able to go to sleep after if we put on I Carly. And she was like, what are you talking about? I was like, I don't, for some reason, it's scaring me at night. I don't know why. I don't know if it's the Michael Jackson comparison that people make about Miranda Cosgrove, which. is rude, but at the same time, you know, gets in your brain. Is that new?

Or has it always been? No, I think it's always been that way. And I was very scared of Michael Jackson growing up. So I don't know if that has something to do with it. Something's coming back in my brain. Or if it's because I've heard Jeanette McCurdy talk about how much she really did not enjoy being on that show. Yeah.

And just acting in general. So then when I watch, I feel guilty for like enjoying it so much and I feel worried and scared for them. I don't know. It's like this overwhelming. Feeling comes over me when I put it on and I got like freaked out by it. Yeah. And you know what I didn't realize?

And now this says a lot to me and how I just like forget my age and where I was in my life. Because I just always watch those kinds of shows. But I Carly was on TV like all throughout me being in high school. So I feel like I kind of just was a little on the older side. Probably. What year did it come out? 2007, end of 2000, it aired from September 2007 to November 2012. So one year in eighth grade. So I feel like it started and I was like middle school and like

that I liked it at the beginning and then I think I kind of just like maybe aged out of it a little bit. Yeah, that would make sense. Yeah. I think when for you started it was like fifth grade. Yeah. It was the perfect. It was perfect to age. But yeah, when it ended, it was like, okay, this is ending. I'm not even going to, I'm not watching it anymore anyway. But yeah, it just seems like you weren't the biggest I Carly fan and I think that's okay and I think I never really dissected that though and now I feel like I have and that's probably why yeah you're coming to terms with it yeah you're being honest about it and that's good when did um Hannah Montana's last episodes air I think I was in eighth grade um I want to say 2011 maybe 2011 2011 2011 okay

Hannah Montana never lost me no and same with Wizards away from the woods you have to see how Hannah Montana you know I know I'm saying like I like I like Hannah Montana had me locked in. Wizards of Waverly Place had me locked in. See, Wizards was the same thing for like I Carly. I didn't like Wizard's Awayverly Place, but I liked I Carlyleys. I actually liked Wizards a wayvary Place a lot because I felt like the

humor was a little more adult in Wizards and like Alex's personality, Selena Gomez's role was I think actually very funny. Whereas I think I Carly was genuinely fucking stupid. There was some really stupid thing. Random dancing. Like there were

just some really stupid things. Very like slap slapstick humor. It's like ah, people falling over. That was like the same thing with Drake and Josh too. I would say. But Drake and Josh just delivered it. Oh yeah.

It's just when those shows were ahead of it. It's kind of like I Carly and Victorious had similar vibes. Yeah. But I think I liked the premise of Victorious better than I car. Maybe we didn't like a Carly.

I don't know. I mean, I think we were just more Disney people than Nickelodeon. I think we were more, I would definitely say I was more Disney Channel person. But I loved. SpongeBob and Drake and Josh. I loved Zoe 101. Oh, true. Like, so much.

Yeah. I really, like, thought I was Zoe. And I liked Drake and Josh a lot. I'm trying to think of the other shows on Nickelodeon that I really liked. I think a lot of cartoons, too. Is rocket power on. Yeah. Like a lot of the cartoon, early cartoons, Rugrats, was my favorite show growing up.

up. But at the time when they're going against Sweet Lives Act Cody Montana Wizards, that's O'Raven. Like there's no competition there. Oh, Jimmy Neutron. That was a great show. Very odd parents. Yeah. Yeah. Hey Arnold.

Great cartoons. Yeah. And also great shows, but they It was not as emotionally invested. A little more defeat oriented. Yeah. Well, there's a reason for that. I know. Big announcement for the chicks in the office.

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And they have, like, it's just very creative and cool. I love all their logos. All their merch is great. Like, if you just like cool sports merch, their water dog stuff is awesome. I, you know, whip snakes are back-to-back champions. Will they win for a third season in a row? Who knows? Tune in this summer to find out.

Also, you can follow the PLL at Premier Lacrosse on Twitter and at PLL on Instagram. So tune in. We will be go Redwoods. Go Redwoods. It has been up, down, and all around for Francesca and Harry from too hot to handle. You know I already, like, I don't know what it is about other Francescas, but I'm just like, what's good with you, you know? Oh, you don't fuck with other.

No, I do. Oh, oh. No, I do, but I think. You said, what's good with you? No, I, I 100% do. But, like, when there are ones that are, like, getting in trouble. Not necessarily that this Francesca is getting in trouble, but, like, in the drama, I'm like, damn, what's going on with you, Francesca?

Talk to me. From Francesca to Francesca. That's personal. Yeah. I also don't, we don't ever talk about, there's not a lot of, like, celebrity Francescascas. No, there isn't. There's Francesca and Harry from two. too hot to handle. Yeah. I mean, we're just talking names at this. There's not many marias.

Yes. There is not. But I'm saying it's just a weird thing. Like, it doesn't bother you for some reason. I feel like overall, Francesca is a very popular name though, just like in terms of the world. You think so? Yes. I don't think it is. I don't think so. I didn't meet one Francesca growing up. Maria and Francesca, I feel like, are very popular names. Definitely Maria. It's popular, but I don't know other marias yeah when i was born like noah was not popular but now it's like one of the most popular names i think well maybe it's changed but like like i just said i didn't grow up with i didn't know a single franchise i don't think you would put maria and francesca on a list of like popular girl names though there are a lot of people name that but if you're doing up right straight up a list of popular

yeah i don't think a lot of kids these days are being named maria yeah who would fucking name i think i think it is a very popular name yeah and i just feel like franchise i feel like those are just staple names. I don't know. Maybe because you know us. Francesca Maria. How many Francesca do you know? None.

How many Marias do you know? None. Okay, so moving on. Anyway, to watch and Francesca. Francesca and Harry have, you know, last summer, it was crazy. Their time on the show was wild. They seemed so hot and heavy after the show. And then there was a breakup.

And they've blown up in their own ways. Francesca's all over social media and she's dated other people and dated other women and been out on these dates and Harry has like kind of like totally thrust himself into the YouTube world like you know BFFs with Tanna

and all that stuff and just like they've had these separate pads and the way they always talked about it kind of seemed like their relationship did not end well it was just like very bad and over the last month or so it looked like they reconnected it were maybe going to get back together and no, it seems like it blew up again. And I don't think these two people are meant to be

together. I don't think they're meant to be together either. I think that they probably have like a lusting for each other. They're both hot. Right. They're both hot. They probably have good sex. And so they're probably like, oh, we want to have sex with each other. Literally the whole premise of the show they were on. Exactly. They just wanted to fuck the whole time. They're literally too hot to handle. Right. Like they just wanted to fuck each other. And so I think that's probably what's happening where, I mean, Francesca was in a relationship up and two weeks ago, she was dating another woman and it seemed like they were happy. And then that kind of ended. And then Harry's name got dragged back into it. And it seems like Francesca and Tanna really don't get along. And Francesca didn't really like that Harry was still hanging around

Tanna. And then Tana was posting TikToks about Harry and Francesca and Francesca not being happy that Harry's hanging out with Tana. And here's the thing. If at the end of of the day, Harry, if you want to be friends with Tanna, then be friends with Tanna. Yeah. It's not going to work out with Francesca then. And you need to get that through your head. You got to, if those two are not going to get a lot. No, they're not. And if you want to keep your friendship with Tanna, which I understand, you don't want to just drop your friends, right? Date somebody who respects your friendship and understands your friendship with Tana. And then you'll be good to go. And for Francesca, I feel like, Francesca, why are we hanging on to Harry?

Let's move past this. There are plenty of fish in the sea. She says she wants to be in a relationship, but she just was in a relationship. She wanted to be in a relationship with Harry, I guess. It's not going to work out for the two of them. They're not forever. They're not. And I think that both of them just need to live single life as the two hot people that they are right now

and enjoy this fame that they're getting. And just go wild. Like, Harry shouldn't have to feel restricted on who he's being friends with, right? If he's friends with Hannah, then he's friends with Hannah. And the right person is going to be okay with that. Absolutely. I feel like I'm giving, like, relationship to advice to Harry, he's not even sitting here. No.

Harry, if you see this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, the right girl for him is not going to care about his friendships, the TikToks he makes, or whatever. If that's what he wants to continue to do. And if he's not going to put an end to it in the relationship. Yes.

And there was also a TikTok made saying, that, you know, his birthday and they were going to need two tables. Tana and Francesca can't be near each other. Don't get along. So they're, it's, I just don't feel like their relationship is strong enough and Harry never really wanted, you know, Harry's not going to give up that Tanna side of his life for Francesca. My question is, why can't Francesca and Tana get along?

What's not sure? They, okay, maybe they've said some shit about each other. I was going to say, I'm pretty sure they've said some not so nice things. Okay. Maybe is Jake involved somehow? Possibly. I think Francesca may have hooked up. I think was that said on BFFs?

I don't know. Harry said that one night, Francesca. Yeah. Went and hooked up with Jake and then he hooked up with Julia Rose. Yeah. I think that's what happened. I think that was said. But either way, I guess it's easier said than done, right?

But why can't they just like if. Why can't we be friends? doesn't want, yeah, if Tanna doesn't want to date Harry, yeah, and she's not interested in him in a romantic way, and Francesca is, then what's, what are we fighting about? It's not like two girls that are fighting about a guy because they're both romantically invested in him. It's a friendship versus a relationship. So can't they put their differences aside, Fran? It doesn't seem like it, because I also think that Francesca, besides the friendship stuff, I think that Francesca, like, really wants a relationship. but I don't think Harry does. So that's where they're going to hit a roadblock every single time. She said this week, I'm 27 now. She's also older than him. And I think that, like, maybe there might be a maturity situation there.

She said, I'm 27 now and I can see through bullshit really easily. And I wasn't going to put myself back in a situation where I was going to be heartbroken again. I spent a week crying over it. But now I'm done. I'm ready to completely close that chapter of my life and move on and not get hurt anymore. She's the most single. Single she's ever been in her entire life. and she says, I don't want to be single.

I like being in a relationship, and I feel like I'm at the stage in my life where I want a relationship. And I want to settle down soon, so it's hard to find someone to date. So that makes sense. For Jessica jumps into this, thinking like her and Harry are going to get back together

and maybe like things will accelerate quickly. And I highly doubt Harry is ready to be in that place in his life. I don't think so either. And you know what? That's fine. I just, I enjoy following both of them, seeing where this goes. But I think,

I don't, I think it's going anywhere. Oh, last thing about the name thing, this just popped in my head. Noah. This is how I always judged it too and I hated it as a kid. Going into any kind of gift shop.

You're on vacation. You go into a gift shop and they got the spiral things of your names on the license plates or the bracelets. Never. Francesca. No.

Never. Never. Really. Mary. I know that. That's a thing. Yeah. I know that Maria is a popular name.

Yeah. I just feel like if you were looking at a list of popular girl names, they wouldn't be at the time. I don't think, no. You think maybe in Italy? Maybe. Yeah. Italy or Spain.

Yeah. Yeah. Not, yeah. It's just, I was just saying because I don't, didn't that drive you nuts? Like every time I would go in and like my friends would all be able to buy one. And I would just be like, they don't have my name. And I'd be so sad. That is sad.

I know. You make your own? Sometimes. I got, there was one. And I, and I hate at the. the time I hated Fran. I still don't really love Fran but I like they would have Fran and I'd be like that's not my name. Oh shit. Well you know how my mom acts. I acts when people call me like she doesn't like Fran. She doesn't refer to you as Francesca and I was like oh whoa. Yeah well that's yeah the whole fam does

they they all call you they all call her Francesca it comes and goes sometimes friend J.B my brother calls me friend now more just because everybody else everybody else does but like Joe calls me Francesca he doesn't call me Fran. Joe calls me Maria. Yeah. I think Joe doesn't realize that, like, my nickname has been Ria. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My whole life.

He's like a full name guy. He does that to everyone. My brother's name is Alex and, or technically Alexander, but like no one's ever called him. That's Alex. Yeah. Alexander just seems a bit too serious. Extremely.

Yeah. But so is Francesco. That's kind of serious. It was just long. That's all. Yeah. It's three syllables is a lot. Three syllables is a lot, which is why I have come to.

accept Fran, even though when I was growing up, I really didn't like it. Middle school, I tried to make, I told you this. Middle school, I tried to make Cheska happen. That didn't last long. Chaska. I love when Francesca is trying to go Cheska. My cousin did that too. I really tried to go Cheska. I had a bracelet. I actually made myself a bracelet that I remember we went on a trip in middle school. Me and where were you going? I don't know where we were, but we were literally in like some gift shop and you could get the leather bracelets engraved with your name. And so literally me trying to push Cheska so hard, I got Cheska and wore it like every day to school. And everyone was like, and nobody called to Cheska.

Who are you? You're just like holding your arm up to everyone? Yeah, I was like, no, no, no. Some people did. It caught on a little, but never, not enough. Not fully. No. Because if it did catch on fully, you'd be Cheska.

Exactly. If it caught on enough, I would have been able to go into high school into like a new school being like, I'm Cheska. Yeah. That's weird. That would be weird. Hey, Cheska. Yeah.

And I clearly did not do that. Yeah. Some people would think, are you saying Jessica? Yeah. Confusing. Oh, yeah. That is confusing. Yeah. It's tough out there. We have an awesome interview slash conversation with Becca Tilly and Tanya Rad from scrubbing in with Becca and Tanya. They are so awesome. We have such a good time. But it's Thursday. And we're heading into a warm weather weekend. So what I'm doing as soon as I get home is opening up a course Seltzer. And right now, summer,

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studio via Zoom. We've been wanting to have you ladies on the show for a long time now. So welcome. Yay. We're so excited. I mean, the first guest in the new studio, virtual guests, wow. I know. And the studio looks really good, by the way. Congratulations. It looks like very official, legit. Thank you guys. It's been a long time. We've been working on this for months. And it's just like it's been done for so long. We've been waiting to post every week. We'd be like, we think the new studio is coming next week, pushing it off, pushing it off. But like Ray said, we're so excited that you guys are here. It has been a long time coming. I really wanted to have you guys in person, which is why I was like, oh, you know, we're going to L.A. Like, maybe we

could find a time. But I'm happy we have you on Zoom. When are you coming to L.A.? We were just there. We were there two weeks ago. And so that was when, yeah, like, I had initially said to our talent booker, I was like, oh my God, reach out to Becca and Tanya. Maybe we can do something in LA. Didn't work out. We're here now, though, which is great. And then we'll figure out of time to do it in person at some point. Well, you know, right before COVID, I had a conversation with Kelty from Lady Gang.

And she was like, we should do like a female podcast tour. And it'd be like us scrubbing in, chicks in the office. And I was like, let's do it. It'd be so fun. And then, you know, the whole world shut down. So we didn't get past that conversation. But I was like, we haven't even gotten to be on each other's podcasts yet. So I felt like this needed to happen before our worldwide tour begins.

I also love that because we all cover so much ground. We could like be in arenas. Yeah, totally. We would be, we have to have big venues, not to tune on ones. It's like a true testament of like we're stronger together. Like we could like really, we could go to what's the new stadium they built in L.A.? the one that holds like a hundred thousand people. Oh, the Sofi. Yeah. The Sofi. Yeah. Someone told me Sophie. So I've been saying Sophie all this time and it's Sofi. So that's unfortunate.

You know, I was like the Sophie short stadium. No, honestly, though, that's a great idea. We got to keep that one in our back pocket for when things are like, you know, when we can get into those arenas. But you guys crack me up. I love following both of you on social media, like, thoroughly. Like, there's a lot of people, you know, there's people you follow and you kind of just like skip through their stories. Like, you guys, I'm really in tune with. I pay attention to each of you. And it's because you guys are so, for different things. For different things. Like, you, like, I just feel like, Becca, I relate to you. You know, you're just like, I'm going to eat McDonald's. I'm going to do whatever I want. And Tanya is just like positivity 24-7, which is not really my thing, but I'm like, you know what? Maybe I got to step outside and look at the

Butterflies. Just the way that you present things. But I love that you guys have this dynamic and you guys are so close. But you guys really are so different. Could not be more different in everything. Truly. In every sense of the word. So I do have to say that. Thanks for saying that because I love following both of you as well. Like I genuinely, I started following y'all like way after we met the PCAs. And I laugh a lot of because I, love to take like, you know, an edible and then I like just start eating and I feel like, you know, y'all have a full podcast about getting high. Yeah, we're on the same page about that. How do you guys wait? Yes. Do I need to eat an edible? Do I need to eat an edible? Do I need to try one? You've never had one? No. What? Yes, of course. You're in, you're in California. Even friends. Even I've, even I've had like one. I don't, I don't do it often. I'm, I'm rea does the because we've got high podcast with two other girls here at Barstall. And I always am like,

you know, that's not at my alley. I won't, but every once in a while. My personal opinion is I would rather smoke weed than take an edible. Like sometimes edibles can just really throw you for a loop. You kind of don't know what you're getting sometimes. See that. That is the reason

why I can't know. But it's fun in the end. You'll, no, you'll always know. But that's like, Maria is talking about it. Like, if you take a bite of a brownie, like maybe you made it home. you don't know. Yes. You're gonna feel fucked up.

But if you have a little pop a little five, you'll be more than okay. They have it in this store. You live in California. They have it made perfectly for you where you know exactly how much is in the little gummy bear, the sour patch watermelon that you get. Tanya, I bet you would have one.

I'm back on the note. I wish I didn't scare you into it. Have five milligrams edible. No, I appreciate it. Tanya, do you eat McDonald? This is a question, my burning question. Yeah. What is up with that?

Here's the thing. I'm not against it. Like, I, you know, I've had a Taco Bell. What I have recently, I had a Crunch Rap Supreme like a couple months ago. Sorry, I had to talk about like the first time ever. I'm not like against any of that. But like for me, I can't, like, I physically feel it if I'm not eating like, if not drinking a lot of water and I'm not eating properly.

my body doesn't function properly and like I just don't I can't I can't it's almost like if I if I eat something bad it slows me down and I'm like ain't nobody got time for that you know what's funny though you look fully naked right now you sit back sit back she does she looks like a mermaid you know like like a hair was like she was about to say the same there was her she looks like straight up Ariel. So can I tell you what happened? I spent the night last night at my boyfriend's house and I packed a different, I packed a change of clothes from the Billboard Music Awards so that I could like go to dinner after.

So I brought like jeans and a t-shirt and my pajamas asleep at his house. But I didn't realize that I had worked the next morning, Monday morning is the morning show. And so I had like literally like set my alarm fly out of bed. And I was like, I don't have clothes. And so I'm literally wearing my pants. This is my pajama top. Yeah. Super cute,

very cute. Cheat. Very cheap. That is very, very funny. Oh, yeah. There you look. You got jeans on. You look very cute.

Yeah, that's a very cute outfit. Thank you. Yeah. I feel like I look put together, but I'm not. Well, I was going to say that it's funny because I think for like the three of us, it's like we never have even given our bodies the chance. to fully know what it felt like if we ate health, you know? If we were talking about.

We don't even know what eating healthy feels like. Yeah, we don't know how to be her. Right. Like, I'm thinking like if I started to do what you do, like, I'd be like, wow, I feel amazing. Like, I'm definitely not going to go back to fast food. I've just. Yeah.

I guess, you know what? It could be like eating an edible. Like you feel that high and you're like, I don't want to go back to not that. You know? So for me, it's just the reverse where it's like, I feel. high when I'm you don't you don't feel high you get like you feel excited and happy yeah don't don't don't hit us with like I feel high when I come back from a run we'll have to

walk out the door no I'll walk out the door I'll shut the zoom no that's true there is there is a high that comes from working out that's like actually scientifically proven and that is like a fact no absolutely so we I want to back up a little bit because um just first background for everyone listening. You guys do the Scrubing Game Podcasts. It's fantastic. And we met at the People's Choice Awards a few years back. But I want everyone to know because you know,

you guys are two-time People Choice Awards winners. And I would like everyone to know like how you guys even started your show. Because I think we were joking about how you guys are opposite. So it's like how did you guys even become friends? So we were actually friends. We actually shared a wall in our, when I moved to L.A. from San Diego. go, we shared a wall, like, lived right next door to each other in the same apartment complex.

And, like, Tanya would get mad at me if I had my door locked. Like, she would just barge in. And if it wasn't unlocked, she would text me or, like, I'd let her in. She'd go, why was your door locked? And I'm like, because I was sleeping last night and I locked my door like a normal person, like she was basically the cast of friends. She just, like, felt entitled to being in my apartment. So we did that.

And then when I started the podcast, it was just me. And I started scrubbing in with Beckettilly, and it was kind of me just interviewing different guests of like TV shows that I loved. And that was kind of the gist of it was like me talking about pop culture things. But I quickly realized that it was hard to be just like a one person show interviewing other people because that wasn't really my, like I don't really consider myself like a Ryan Seacrest interviewy type. So we had Tanya on because my sister, I have two. younger sisters and they're really funny and sarcastic and I had them come on and as soon as they got in front of the microphone they just like shut down and so we were like we have to find we got to like make up some of the time of that podcast we did and we recorded the iHeart studio and tanya had just

finished the morning show and so i was like hey will you come do the podcast with me and as soon as it started i looked at our producer and i was like this is this is it and so after that it was like it just became scrubbing in with becettillians on your own. Amazing. And I do have to say that, like, at that time, it's really interesting. I don't know how many years it's been. Has it been doing it for like three years, four years now at this point? It'll be four, I think, this.

And this was at a point in my career where, like, I was very, I'm not trying to say I'm at, like, this crazy point in my career now, but, like, I was very much considered, like, tertiary and, you know, yeah, just, like, not really, like, I don't know, a lot of people weren't taking me seriously. And when Becca brought me on, like, Becca had to fight to get my name on the podcast because, like, it was like, it just, it wasn't, you know, like, my name wasn't big enough or cool enough or like whatever. And it just goes to show you, like, what kind of a person Becca is because she, I mean, if she had an ego in any way, she would have been like, no, this is my podcast. She's like my side piece, whatever. But

she was like, no, like, it's 50-50. Like, it's both of us. And like, I want your name on this podcast and she like went to bat for me and I thought that was like so special because I don't know you don't not common in this industry you know and so everything and she didn't just like put her foot down like she really stepped up and like made it happen and it wouldn't have happened if she wouldn't have like gone to bat for me so that was like really special in the beginning and I and I tell her I've told her thank you many times but it's it's something that is really important especially as like women in the industry that we kind of help each other and push each other and lift each other. That is really sweet, honestly. That is a really nice story. How did, how did you feel Tanya when Becca asked you to do the show originally? Were you like all in at first or were you like, oh, it's a podcast? Like, what were your thoughts about it?

No. I mean, literally when I went into filling for her sister that day was so fun, you know, and it's such a different dynamic. It's such a different. The thing that's interesting, and I find so cool about every show that, like, I've ever been a part of is like everything is so different. And especially with podcasts, I feel you get to really explore your personalities in a different way.

And I also love that it's like we actually are really doing life together. And then we get to do life together and share it with a community of people. So it's like actually really beautiful because I feel like we created a community that really feels like a sisterhood. And it's like genuine, you know because it's like our friendship is and our relationship is genuine so i don't know it's been it's been really special yeah it is really cool and i think from like our standpoint of two uh women doing this also it's cool because you guys both do your own things too or it's like wow bebecca just did this

or tony just did this like we could be we could do that you know it's it's very inspiring's it's like tony's on the red carpet we let's get on the red carpet becca's creating her own clothing line with macy's like let's create our own clothing line you guys do such cool things that I think sometimes women in in our business like don't even think that like they could do like I know Tanya you always talk about your imposter syndrome and all the things like that where it's like should I be doing that stuff can I do that stuff but I love that you guys are always doing it because I'm like well Becca is doing it Tanya is doing it we can do it yeah and I think by the way Drake has imposter syndrome too which like shook me to my core when he was

said that, I was like, wow. I mean, Drake, like, he's just like a mega, mega, mega star. And the fact that he has imposter syndrome is like beyond me. But I think you're so right. I think that it's, it's a really special time, too, for women, because I feel like we can do so much. And there is no limit. And it's interesting you bring other people's choice sports because that's how I found out about your podcast was because obviously we're all nominated against each other. Yep. And I remember after we won, our scrubbers were like in our Facebook group and they were like, chicks in the office, a ragging on you guys. And so I was like, who are these? What is going on? Can I just say, I was going to bring this up and I was going to talk about that. And they were like,

no, like, don't bring that up. And now I'm so happy brought that up because I wanted to clear that up because I remember all that happening. And obviously it's like we were joking around. about losing and we had no business even being there in the first place like we know like you know what I mean nobody knew our names on the red carpet like the whole thing we were making a joke out of it and your listeners who are so dedicated by the way I love that about them they were not happy with me and I was like oh no and I remember I DM'd you both apologizing being like I hope you guys know that I was joking like you guys are so deserving and like all this and neither of you answered me and that's okay, but I apologize, like, the next day because your listeners were so upset.

I never saw it. Guys. Wait, no, so it's funny because so I see all this like scuttle going on. I listened and I could obviously tell that you guys were like joking around. Like I knew. And like the same with Beck and I, like, we, the fact that we were even nominated, we were like, is this somebody punking us? Like I think. Right.

And it's because we didn't have as much of a, of a relationship because we went, I also listened to the lady gang's episode after they lost two. And like they were making the same jokes as us. And I was like, well, I guess maybe just because they know each other better. Yeah. I was like, oh, of course. I can't make a joke. Because I'm listening to, to, um, I'm listening to lady gang Becca be like, yeah. I mean, like, we're just a bunch of fucking losers. Like, you know, I'm like, oh my God. Like this is, we wanted to sound like that. And it, why didn't it come off like that? I felt so sad after because I was like, wait, I really like them. And that, but I, you know, I continued to follow you and obviously I knew I knew we would end up friends on the other side of it but I was definitely

I definitely felt bad for a little bit so I'm glad it's out there and it was such a cool table to be a part of like now looking back I am too because I know Fran like we've messaged before yeah yeah we message and we like we talk and like I mean it's not even like a thing yeah but it was funny because our scrubbers did they got like so like they they were invested yeah I mean And so it was just so funny because I was like, what's going on? But I think after that, I obviously like I love both of you and I love your podcast. And I do. I really think that like we can all champion each other.

And like, and I think it's even more important, especially as like female podcasters to do those things. Because, you know, like even like I feel like you brought the lady gang, they had their, you know, they have their own collective clothing line. And they're doing a book. And they're all doing their own individual. things as well. And it's just so cool because it's like she can go off, they can go off and do their own thing. Our thing is so different and unique and we all bring something so different to the table that it's not necessarily like we're not competing. We're just in this thing. It's like men don't think about that at all. Men just, they just grab all their other men and they're like,

let's all go, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, I don't know why. I don't know how I think for so long, pink actually was talking about this, how like when she was starting out in the industry, women were so not this it was just so different you know and it's it's it's cool that it's changing yeah absolutely we love you know when other women podcasters come on you guys i mean i'm super close with the girls from comments by celebs and we've had them on our show and vice versa and people are always like oh like how are you guys friends and you guys talk about the same stuff like is it like competition doesn't feel like a competition at all it feels like oh we all have each other to fall back on if we want to talk to somebody about something that like you'll understand because

we're all working in the same industry. It just makes it feel so much better and more comfortable. And like we all have something so unique and different. You know, like we're all different individuals. And so it's it's like just because we are women doing the same thing, we have totally different takes on the world. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. There's like different personality, you know, personality types that are similar and like in between the four of us. I like Fran and Tanya, then Ria and me are more like, you know, similar style. Yeah. I was thinking before. I'm such a Tanya. I'm such a Tanya. I said I'm such a Tanya. Every time I always joke. It's just like a very funny dynamic. Dynamic where there's so many times that I say

something so cheesy. And Ria's like, really? Did that just come out of your mouth? Well, me and Becca had that moment before when you, like, you were talking about the Jonas brothers. And then Tanya was like, it's like, you know, like families around. And Becca, community of people at their concerts. She rolls her eyes and I'm like, I kind of feel the same way. Like I was thinking about that before it started like on my ride into work. I was like, who's the, who's the Becca and who's the Tanya? Oh, it's pretty clear. So clear. How do you guys decide like when you, when you're talking to your listeners, I know you guys put it up on your Instagram stories all the time. Like, are you a Becca or are you a Tanya?

What are the main points for each that decides who's who? I mean, it's like eating habit. It's like the other night, I posted a story. We went to the premiere of a Pink's documentary, and Tanya, it was me, Tanya, and her boyfriend, and they brought food, and then they had, like, little, the venue, they were handing out, like, little picnic boxes, and it had fried chicken and, you know, and then it had, like, a huge cookie. And I was like, Tanya, does you want a piece of this huge cookie that I have? And she goes, oh, nope, we brought.

berries. And I was like, okay. See, now that's where Tanya loses me because I eat like you guys do. Yeah, that so loses me there. Like, you brought berries. Ratitude, ratitude wise, modern women, that's where Tanya got. That's where Tanya gets me. But that's actually, you don't have it. Yeah, sometimes I feel like I can truly convince myself that like I can do something even though it's like not like something that just seems so like crazy. I'm like, no. No, I can almost like will myself to do anything, which I think is, or like, I don't know what the word is. Hopeless or hopeful. Yeah.

No, I love it. And wait, so I want to ask you guys about, I want to ask you guys about Grey's Anatomy, obviously, because I still, you know, every week I'm tuning in. I'm watching. And I know you guys are always posting on your stories of you watching. And every week I'm like, God, I really wish I just like had a group chat with Tony and Becca because nobody else, like my friends, I'll stop watching. I'm like, I don't have anybody to talk to about this. I'm always replying to your stories being like, that was so crazy.

We should start a group chat though because like it is, it's fewer and fewer around us. I know. Well, I was going to ask you guys, do you think that this is maybe the last season? I feel like everybody's kind of getting a send off. You mean the, no, they just signed for a new season. They did? Another season. Oh, man.

They're going to have to bring a new more people. because I feel like the cast are dropping like flies. We're still watching. We're literally all like, oh, yeah, another season. Like, no one's even like so excited anymore. We're just like, okay. Yeah, I was going to say, are you guys still as into it or slow responses? I'm as into it in the sense that I, you know, watch it weekly.

Like, I don't wait or anything. Like, I'm pretty consistent watching it. But I used to sit and watch it live on Thursday night. So no, I'm not there anymore. But it's like you can't not watch. Like I can't even wrap my mind around the idea of not watching. Right. Yeah.

I'm with you. Like, I'll watch it till the day it's dead. But like, it's not giving me a lot of life at the moment. Right. Yep. Yep. It's, I absolutely agree with you. And I really thought like with them bringing everybody back.

Yeah. That I was like, this feels like they're going to wrap it up. Everybody's having their moments. But the show must go. on. So I guess you're going to continue. And look, if the show continues, it keeps the hope alive of you guys getting to be on the show, right? Like, that's where the silver lining is, because hopefully you guys get to get to have a little guest appearance is what I was trying to say. What, who's been your favorite, who's been your favorite gray's guests that you guys have had on your show?

Oh, you know who was like awesome? I mean, we've had a few that I really, really liked, but I think unexpected was Kim Raver who plays Teddy. Oh yeah. But like Giacomo is uncomparable. Okay, Becca and I show up to the Scrazenatomy like Paley Fest, like the Paley Fest

was like fan fest and we were in the press line so we were like in front of all these professionals and we show up in our scrubs and like our iPhones to like do like interviews and videos with these people and a big chunk of them like walk by and we're like who are these girls? And Giacomo like did a whole scene with us.

He was like, two pieces of happy. Like, he was so down to just be so fun and cool. So I, like, Giacomo is like the ultimate to me. Yeah. Love both of them. I mean, everyone, I mean, I will say, I will say there were no women.

Like, everyone was great. We haven't had any experiences where we're like, well, that ruins everything. Like, if anything, it made us, like, them more. Yeah. What would you guys say are the best seasons? because I started watching Gray's a few months ago

and then I had to stop around season 5 because I was watching at a rapid pace, right? Like I was clocking in like two seasons a week. I don't know what happened. It was alarming. Like she fell into like a hole where she would be texting me at 3 in the morning being like, I'm still watching and I can't turn it off. I fell into a dark hole and I had to stop

because I was like actually depressed and Grey's Anatomy was just making it so much worse. I was like, I can't. She kept thinking she was like really sick. I've diagnosed myself with every disease under the sun. Like it was, it was turning sour fast. But I have, I keep saying this, but I have to get back into it because I feel like I'm at a better place now

that maybe I can handle it again. But what do you guys think are like the best seasons? I mean, those seasons that you watched are like some of them. Wait, where did you leave off? Season five. Five, she said. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

So like she hasn't even got into like plane crash. Like she's, you know, like plane crash. She hasn't even seen. Wait, Tanya, what did you say? I did the exact same thing with Grey's Anatomy. I started watching it. I never watched it until, I don't remember the year, obviously, but it was so embarrassing. It was a New Year's Eve, and I didn't have plans.

I remember very vividly because I was with Brad that day on the 31st, and I went home to my apartment, and on New Year's Eve, I started watching from Season 1, Episode 1, Grace Anatomy. And I watched it that whole next day, January 1st. I didn't stop until I was up. to the current season. I think it was like 11 or something. So for almost four months, I was antisocial.

I was FaceTiming Becca every other day crying because somebody had died. I didn't do anything. I just binged graze just to be caught up for four months. So like I was totally there with you. It like sucks you in.

And like I'm proud of you for like pulling out of it and giving yourself a breather because I couldn't do it. And it was like not good for probably my like social skills and my mental health because I just didn't do anything else. Exactly. That's what was happening. People were highly concerned that I was crushing. I crushed two seasons in a week once. Everyone was like, whoa. Like you need to take it easy. Right. Because it's also not like how they make TV now. Those early seasons like you watch a new show on Netflix or Hulu or something and it's like 10 to 13

episodes. Those early seasons of Grey's Anatomy are like 21 to 24 episodes. We have a ton of episodes and they're all an hour long. I was putting in a lot. But I'm going to get back to it because I obviously, I want to get to the plane crash. I want to get to the other people dying. The shooting episodes? Oh my gosh. That's season six. It is kind of funny that.

And I guess I actually, I'd be sort of sad too. That's like, deaths are landmarks. You haven't gotten to when this person dies? I remember when I was younger, my mom used to watch Grays every Thursday night. Well, she would record it Thursday night and watch it on Friday morning when my dad was at work. And she didn't work on Fridays. So some days, I would.

stay home from school because I'd be like, oh, what's this show she's watching? I kind of want to see what's good. And I remember the shooting episode. I don't know why. I just, as a child, that you'll remember that. I was like, I got to watch this show later on in life. Yeah. Absolutely. Wait, I'm curious because y'all are big bachelor, bachelor fans. Are you all, what are y'all's thoughts for this upcoming season? Um, look, we. No, no, it's because I will say, and this is, and this is, is kind of a little gray's anatomy-esque in the fact that like it just was going on for so long unfortunately with the pandemic like the way they scheduled everything there was no break like it

went um like immediately back in the fall and then into the winter and then into Matt like there was there was no in between where there was like you get a couple weeks where you're not watching so and we do a live show called cutting stems every Monday after the the episode at 10 p.m. live from our studio. So, like, we were doing it for so long. We were, like, kind of getting a little bit of burnout. And these last few weeks, without it, we were like, wow, this has just been a little refreshing. And now we're like, we're, and now we know that it's going, we're doing the same thing because it's going Katie, Paradise, and then Michelle, like, they doubled up on Bachelorette seasons again. So there isn't going to be the break in the fall again.

It's just so we're like, oh, boy, here it comes. Here it comes. I'm always excited because it's just, you know, I will never get tired of The Bachelor. Of course. I mean, we get excited every season. But I think on top of that, there was like this really negative article that came out about this upcoming season that like kind of painted Tisha and Caitlin in a bad light and made it seem like they can't do it without Chris Harrison. Remember the article on Tokyo? Yeah. It was very, it was very weird. Like around this new season, there's just been like weird talks about like, what? what happened on the show. I kid you not. We saw people being like it's too much female energy.

Yeah. Which is like ridiculous. It's kind of like a weird narrative to put out there before the season even airs. Yeah. Being like the- How do they even know? Like who wrote it? Who wrote the article?

So I think there was one on like page six and maybe I think and then E. There was what, yeah, being like sources are saying that the male contestants felt like they missed out because they didn't have that father figure and Chris Harrison and that the energy between like Tasha and Caitlin got like competitive with Katie because everyone it was like it just all seemed like such bullshit that the that those three women like couldn't all have their shine. Yeah. It was like okay.

I feel like that's a little far fetched. Yeah. They created like this weird narrative around it like you said that like Katie couldn't fully shine to her full potential because Tisha and Caitlin have big personalities. Big personalities. And so that takes away from Katie or whatever. And we were just kind of like, why can't they all? exist and these 30 men are crying about not having enough men. There's more men than women.

There's 30 men there. Like what's what to say? And like, I mean, there are expectations for how often they're going to see Chris Harrison was kind of skewed. Like someone lied to them because unless Chris Harrison's more like involved with the bachelor, like when the guy's on the bachelor, but like you don't see him a ton. It's like he comes in. Exactly. Then he kind of goes. Yeah. So I don't know what father making a role they're talking about. How do you look back on your time on the Bachelor? I had, I mean, I had the best time in both seasons. Like, I had the best time in my life.

But I think I'm really grateful to be able to say that because I know some people don't really feel that way. But I just am glad I went when I did because I feel like it kind of, even though I watch it, I never watched it before I went on it. And I watch it now like every season. season, but it would just be hard to go on and, like, fully embrace the experience without thinking about, like, am I going to have enough followers to, like, be an influencer after this? You know, like, I didn't, we didn't even talk about Instagram or anything. Like, when it got

off, I was like, oh, cool, like, more people get to see my blurry, weirdly filtered photos on Instagram, you know? Yeah, because that was what it was like at the time. Yeah, the whole thing is very, it's just it's different now and I do think that there's been like I don't know if it's because Claire what went down with Claire all happened so quickly and then the response to that is like oh kid people were like oh katie season is kind of like Claire's like she she ended earlier something who knows it's all speculation that's at this point until we until we watch it but like you said the show has changed a lot since when you're on it

and I think that like right now we're in such a evolution like it's such a period of change for that show and like there's just so many conversations that are happening that like need to happen and they're still trying to like find

where they belong you know I think they just are still trying to like put their right foot forward I mean it's a show that started when things were very different and so they're adjusting and I'm excited. I mean, I'm excited. I love Caitlin and Tasia. So I'm excited to

see the dynamic with having two like women kind of lead the way. Me too. I'm really excited for that. Tanya, do you watch all the seasons or do you like kind of tune in and out? You know, it's interesting. I used to love The Bachelor and I like, I am kind of bummed that

I liked it so much because when I was watching this last season, I just felt so much about like women fighting and like their drama between the women and I'm like this is not what I it's not what I'm about it's not what I like it's not what I like to watch and that's why I don't really watch like the housewives either because I just feel like it's all about like these like women like fighting with each other and I don't know like it just kind of left a I don't know just this like taste in my mouth where I'm like I don't really want to be

like the fact that I've been thinking this is entertainment for so long is bothering me yeah I totally understand I still love the drama I can't yeah can I can't sit here online. This last season was different. Like, because I love this last season. It's like fun to an extent. Sometimes they take it a little far, but this last season was like extreme. It was too much.

I stopped watching like, I think maybe after the first week, I was like, I can't. Yeah. This one wasn't a fun drama. Yeah, everybody did feel like that too. It wasn't like the, the petty drama that you're like, oh, this is like kind of, it's kind of stupid. This was drama that you were like, oh, this is mean. Yeah, like people were just being mean.

So, yeah, and it's interesting, though, because I think that, like, it comes back to what I was saying. The show kind of has to find their identity again because I think they really made it come off like that on purpose. Because look at all the girls from Matt's season that, like, especially the ones that live in New York are all best friends. They all hang out all the time. It's like, you watch the show, you'd be like, ooh, I would have thought all these girls hated each other. But here they are, like, all hanging out all the time. time, like supporting each other, going out, going to dinner, like, looking like they're having so much fun. And they're always like, yeah, we had fun on the show. I don't know what you guys are

talking about. So I don't know. I follow a bunch of them on Instagram and I'm like, I feel so deceived. Like I sat there with like these girls, no one's friends. And they're all like best friends, like sex in the city life in L.A. Yep. I mean, New York. No, I know. It's crazy. We shall see what happens next season. I'm very interested to see what happens. But before we wrap up, Tanya, I want to talk to you about your moment with Harry Stiles because I could not be any more jealous of everything that went on. And also very proud of you. And I think that the whole thing was so cool. And I heard your story about how he called you up after. And I thought that what a class act. Really literally cried. Amazing guy. I literally cried watching all of your videos. The interview,

the whole thing was so unreal. So congrats on that. That must have been such a huge moment. But please, what, you know, what was he like? What did he say? smell like with everything about it. Okay, can I tell you that thank you for saying all of those things because I was a nervous wreck going into that entire situation because I had never met Harry Styles before. I knew that he's Harry Styles. Do you know what I mean? Like he's this huge name and I, he's very artistic and I haven't really seen a lot of

interviews of him interacting with people in a long form. And so I was like really nervous going into it because I do know how. how I can be. Like, I can, my personality is kind of like a lot. And it sometimes doesn't gel well with like really artsy artists, you know, because they're just chiller. So I was really nervous going into it. And I, uh, I will never forget because they basically like, obviously before every show,

they want you to meet the, you know, the person that you're going to be talking to. So his manager came up and said, um, do you want to come and, you know, Harry wants to meet you. You want to come to the dressing room. So I went up to the dressing room. He couldn't have been like, warmer, came in for a hug, was like, can I get you a drink? Like, do you want to drink or something?

And I was like, no, like, after, like, I do the, you know, like, I'm hosting this thing, but he was like so sweet. And then we go down and we start the interview. And you could tell, like, that he was just so happy that I actually, I think that, like, I think when musicians, all they really, they really care when people know their work. And I think the fact that I had told him, like, that. that falling was a song that like was really resonating with me and it was doing all of these things and it was so crazy because we basically so we did the interview and then we finished the interview

and then I went into the audience and then he did his like he did his set he was only supposed to perform I think he was only supposed to perform three songs or four songs but he added falling in for me because he was like I'm going to add this in like he wasn't supposed to do it and he's like I wasn't supposed to do it and you know how like all these things go they have to get everything pre-approved by everybody everybody's like on board. These are like broadcasting live. And so everybody like on the IHart team was so stoked because they got like an extra song out of him, you know. And he like looked over at me and said that, you know, this one's for you. And I was just like, this is the craziest.

She's straight up crying. There's like a like we went to see him in in LA the one night in four of the one night. This isn't about us. No, I know, I know. I know. I'm just saying like I'm just giving context on how much Ria loves him. We went to this show in L.A. And I wake up the next morning and she's in her hotel room. I'm in mine. And she sends me a selfie. Beat red. Her eyes.

She's sobbing. And it's the morning after. And she's like, I just can't stop thinking about that show. And I was like, holy shit. I'm not even that bad. No, I get it now. I get it because he put a spell on me. Like, I'm not even joking in, like, the most beautiful way.

And it's so funny because my boyfriend is like the least jealous person. He's like the least jealous man. like it's actually kind of annoying. But there's this video of Harry Sal's like looking at me and like winking. And he always references it because he thinks that he was like flirting with me. And he like always talks about this video. And I'm like he never saying like he's never like ever questions anything. But that video in particular, he always just like, yeah, he was flirting with you.

I've watched that video more times than I can count. So then we're done. Right. So the concert's over. I was just like, you're so amazing. You're the best. Thank you for like, you know, making me look so good. in front of all my bosses.

Like, he was so kind. Then I get a phone call that night from Harry Styles, basically saying, thank you so much for a great interview. Thank you for being a fan. You're welcome to any stop on my tour. This was back when he was still going on the tour pre-pandy. And it was just a quick conversation and just so nice.

I've never had any artist do that for me ever. And I was like, I will be, I'm your biggest cheerleader. I'm your biggest fan from now and forever. like I will champion him my whole life. Obsessed. What an absolute angel. Like that is exactly who I imagine Harry Styles is.

In that video you're talking about, I've watched, like I said, more times than I can count. I remember sending it to Fran being like, did you see the way he looked at her? Did you see that? I would have fainted to the ground. That is unreal. I'm so happy for you. Like, at least one of us gets to experience that, you know? That's awesome.

Like, I just, it's unreal. You performed at the Grammy. It's fucking crazy. After that, I had a new appreciation for Tanya's moment with him. I was like, that man looked at you and then he called you like, wow. I didn't expect him to be so, so kind and, like, gracious because he doesn't have to be. You know, like, he's already at the top of his game. People swoon for him all the time.

And he's, like, above and beyond so nice. And I'm like, it's pretty awesome. Some artists, they feel, you know, I'm so and so. so I don't really need to go out of my way to be nice to this person. They should feel honored to be around me. But he's like, I need to go out of my way to make sure this woman knows she did a great job and that I appreciate her. And that's why we love Harry Styles.

And that's why he's on our wall. We have on our wall. Harry Styles is my therapist. So it's, um, yeah, no, we. Well, how about this? How about this? When he does go back on tour eventually, I'm assuming he's going to tour this album or something. Oh, I have tickets.

Let's try and coordinate a way like for us to go to the show. together and like figure some things out. Guys, come to, come to either New York or LA. So I had tickets to the to the fine line tour before it got canceled and it got postponed. Yeah. So all the dates just got rescheduled. So right now I have like five days of just fan girl pop madness at October. October 2nd at Jones Brothers show.

October 4th is Harry Styles at MSG. And then October 5th is another Jones Brothers show in New Jersey. I'm going to all of them. me only at the Harry Styles one possibly the Jonas Boas one. I'm actually down for New York Harry Styles Mo. Harry Styles, MSG, October 4th. It's official back and they like that's happening? Yeah.

I mean, I would assume so only because they rescheduled all the dates. And as of right now, like, if I go into my Ticketmaster app, it still says the ticket's good to go. And they're like, they're having, as of right now, I would think so. Like, they have the MSG totally full, almost totally full now for like the Nix games. and things like that. So I think like come October, we should be good. Put it on the calendar, ladies. Circle it.

Okay, so it's October. Yes. Okay, Becca, let's get on that. I'm serious. That would be really fun. Yeah, it could be really fun. We would love that. We would have a plus.

I can try and finagle some sort of situation. I don't really know. I feel like I could have definitely done it before the pandemic, but now I feel like everything's so backed up and people, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. No, you got this. You got this. Yeah, we've got a new time.

We breathe you. I'm not asking for much. I'm not asking for much. We don't, you know, just, just throwing it out there. We believe in you, Tanya. Yes. You can do anything. You do anything you put your mind to. Thank you ladies so much for joining us. We love you guys. We appreciate you guys so much. And we're so happy that you finally made it on the show. Everybody check out scrubbing in with Becca and Tanya. And, you know, let everyone know what else you got going on. Both of you are always doing so much. So much. so I mean well anything I'm doing you can find on Instagram at Becca Tilly and mostly just listen to our podcast yeah that's what we really want yeah same podcast and you can find me at Tanya rad

I'm posting whatever I'm doing there it's usually one-off things but um one off really happy to be here and we need to get you guys on scrubbing in yes absolutely love to we would love to and hopefully the scrubbers like forgive me for for you know for years This is our olive branch, our piece offering. We're all, it's all good. Oh, man. Well, no, it's, we're so excited because I do think that our fans, like, love you guys, too. So I think they're all going to be really excited that we're finally doing this.

Because the pool of girls, it's just, I think our fans want everybody to, like, do stuff together. I think our fans get the most excited when we have other women, like, female podcasts on our show. They're like, oh, my God, we love both of these shows. We're so happy that you guys just. doing this together. So we're so happy that you guys are here. And hopefully we get to hang in person again soon. I know. Let us know when you're in L.A. We can do a in-person podcast. Absolutely. Thank you guys so much. Sure. We need to get to New York. I know. Well, October 4th. Yeah. We got room for you guys. Right here. Thank you guys so much for coming on.

Thank you, guys. Bye, lady. Bye. Bye. Bye. All right. That wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. I hope you guys have a fantastic weekend. Enjoy that warm weather. Summer is finally here. And just a reminder, if you're watching on YouTube, hit that subscribe button. We really appreciate all the people who are subscribing. And if you're listening on Apple or Spotify, wherever you listen to a podcast, make sure you subscribe there as well. We love you guys.

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