Chicks in the Office - BIP Recap w/ Joe & Serena + Wells Adams Interview

Episode Date: October 5, 2022

Subscribe to our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE. Ria's billion dollar idea (13:48-23:13). Kanye West fashion world drama (25:22-33:07). Tom Brady & Gisele hire divorce lawyers (33:09-41:50). Bachelor in Paradise week 2 recap with Grocery Store Joe, Serena Pitt & Kelly Keegs (42:52-1:31:58). Interview with Wells Adams – talking his new show Best in Dough, Bachelor in Paradise, his wedding + more! (1:33:23-1:59:22). MERCH! > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. This is state of emergency. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Brand Friend, giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. Hopefully, everybody has an amazing start to their week. I'm feeling pretty good.

The weather has been rainy in New York, and I'm loving it. I am on the other side of that. I enjoy like one rainy day. It's been raining for three days straight. It has been raining. I don't like that. I don't like that. Doesn't help my mood.

Doesn't help my outfits. Doesn't, you know? You've been feisty today. Yeah, I just, I like the sunshine. I need a little sunshine, a little vitamin D. Yes. Brightens up my day, my life.

Get you some vitamin D in another way, honey. All right. Anyways, I'm going to Florida this weekend, so I think maybe that's why I'm enjoying the rain. Because I'm like, oh. It'll feel even better when I go from rain to sunshine. You're going to, that's going to be very nice. My dad won't stop texting us about. He's like, oh, well, you know, the weather.

It's just like estimated October temperature average is 80 degrees. I was like, every, I was like, enjoy that. Thanks, Dad. Well, why don't you take a little trip down? I don't have any time. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm sorry that it's raining and I'm sorry that you're being feisty today. I know.

All right? I know. Let's pick that mood up. I wish I could. I don't have the, I don't have the available weekends. Name me one good thing about today. Going to Philly to play The Dozen. Yes, excited.

I'm very excited about. I'm nervous. And when this comes out, everybody will know. I'm very nervous because I have not played in a while. It's front of the Philly crowd. A lot of expectations are high. I figured it out. When she gets nervous, she gets FISD.

That is true. And you guys know how I get when I start losing a lot of trivia questions. Like I'm already nervous about not getting my celebrity mashup. Right. On for the dozen. On stage. This place is ginormous that we're playing in. Which I don't think I really realized.

Us as a team wish you the best of luck. We're rooting for you. Thank you. You do. The worst side of you comes out during trivia. Yeah, I'm very competitive. You are. And you also, when you're nervous, in all aspects of life when you're nervous,

you become quiet and a little more feisty. And so we're rooting for you And we think you're going to be great And it's a very exciting thing you're doing, Francesca Thank you. Thank you. So don't let it bring you down. I'm nervous.

I'm nervous. Don't let the rain bring you down. So I'm not I am not going to be a part of the Bachelor in Paradise recap situation. Neither is Trent. I know last week I gave Trent so much shit on cutting steps that he was going to be gone this week. And then I on the end of last week,

I was like, oh shit, I'm also going to be gone. Made that realization. So, Tren and I are both gone. It's Ria Kelly and some special guess. Joe and Serena. Yeah. G.S. Joe. Yeah.

Grocery store Joe. G.S.J. G.J. GS.J. GS.J is does not roll off the top. No, it doesn't. Grocery store Joe and Serena. Yeah. They're coming to watch the show with us, and they will be on cutting stems. I'm very jealous. We should recreate our paparazzi pictures with them. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that Fran wasn't a part of.

I thought I wasn't there for. I'm very. I'm jealous. You guys are going to have a lot of fun. I think that's also, but that week has been how I, this situation has helped me. I don't know what I'm going to do with my Monday TV. It is overwhelming. Monday Night Football is on. Bachelor in Paradise is on.

Dancing with the Stars is on. The voice is on which I watch, but I always save the voice. Like I record the voice and watch it later. Dancing with the Stars isn't really like, you don't have to watch it a lot. Yes, you do. You have to vote. You got to vote and somebody's eliminated at the end. end of every episode.

So it's like if you don't, if I feel like we're Dancing with the Stars, if you don't watch live, it'll get spoiled and you'll know who gets kicked off. So my Monday of this week, just knowing that I was not going to be here for Paradise content, knowing that I could just catch up on it when I needed to, I was watching Dancing with the Stars, but it's going to be a real problem for me going forward. I said that last night in our group chat, I said, too much on TV. There's a lot going on. I was watching Paradise.

And boy, oh boy, is Genevieve annoying the shit out of me? Although people say she's tweeting, acknowledging how annoying she's coming across. So I respect that. Love somebody who watches themselves. Say, hey, I look annoying. We've all been there. Yeah. Another thing I wanted to bring up, I woke up early this morning around 7 a.m.

I don't know why. I had a wild dream. Okay. And I actually did too. It was really, whatever. I won't get into it. Yeah. Woke up at 7 a.m.

And I started thinking about, hmm, what do I want to talk about in the intro today? and something hit me. I hate when people say that they don't watch TV. I hate it. I think they should grow up and they should get over themselves. Because people who say they don't watch TV are living in their own little world. And maybe they like that.

And maybe I sound dumb. Maybe I'm the dummy by watching a lot of TV. But I think if you're consuming not a minute of television, you're not living. You're not seeing what else is out there. I co-sign that. A lot of TV is fake. But that doesn't mean it's not going to help your brain a little bit.

TV is enjoyable. It is. And when people say they don't watch TV, which has... It's just not how we love our lives. It's not. It's jarring for us to think about what do they do? Right. Like, oh, you read books.

Okay, you could read books and watch TV at the same... Yeah, not the same time, but... I read books and I watch TV. You could do both. You can do both. Like, are they just constantly, like, cleaning or working? Or doing thinking exercises. Like in the 1700s, it's like, what do they do like during the day?

Churn butter. Well, there's a... I asked my grandpa that. There's probably a lot more responsibilities. We played with sticks. Yeah. Yeah, they entertained. Made their own games.

Played outside. Listen. Everybody should play outside. Yes, they should. My kid is not getting a fucking phone or iPad. Let me tell you that at an early age. What age? 12.

11, 12. That's when I got a phone. I was 12 or 13. Yeah, that's the appropriate age. My two-year-old is not fucking playing with an iPad. I'll tell you that much. When I see that, oh, grinds in my gears. Yeah.

Like, you're, the parents, I'm sorry, the parents are responsible for that. Why are you giving your two-year-old a fucking phone or iPad? There's so many other things out there. Anyways, everyone should play outside. And there was a time where TV didn't exist. And people couldn't watch TV. And so, yes, I do know that you could live in a world without television. But I think people sound so fucking pretentious when they go,

I don't watch TV. Well, screw you, Sally. Ooh. Sorry, Sally. Sorry to whoever Sally received that comment. It was just the name I thought of because I was watching Bachelor in Paradise. No, they, um, I, so I didn't, she didn't say that she doesn't watch TV, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That had nothing to do with this. I do. So, Wells is also on this episode. Yes. He's backs, but he, it's like, I didn't, I didn't watch, so I don't know. you guys know, I know I'm unraveling my necklace. I can feel it. No, I'm just saying because I feel like they can hear it in the mic.

Can you? I can't. That's fine. Noah says he came. Okay, I was just making sure. The, what was I going to say? Oh, Wells was talking about like a, what he felt was a very funny bit that they did. And I was not watching, but I saw a lot of people complaining about that bit.

I watched it. They did not, yeah, they did not like it on the internet. Some people. Here's the thing I saw grocery store Joe tweet Did Bachelor in Paradise Just become S&L?

And I took that as an insult Because of how bad SNL has been And that would be a compliment I feel like I probably would have thought I would have I like SNL So maybe I would have thought it was fine

You It's funny because it's Wells Yeah Yeah If it was anybody else It's like This is terrible Well, I was thinking about that and saying some things like SNL years ago would have been a huge compliment.

Lately, not so much. So you could take that however you will. But I was thinking about my reaction to the bit because Wells had already told us. And I was like, I could see myself watching this. And so easily being like, I fucking hate this. Like if we were all watching it in the gambling cave where we watch The Bachelor, I could see us all like ripping it apart together being like I hate this.

But then I can also see the other side of being like, oh, that was funny. Yeah. You know, I... It's hard to hate because it's Wells. Right. It's hard to hate when Wells is coming in sitting down in front of us saying... He was very excited about the bit.

Like, he was like, this is the funniest thing we've done. No, he said it was the dumbest thing. But I think he also felt like it was... It's funny because he's dumb. Right, it was both. It was very dumb. Okay. Okay.

Well, I'm... You guys will be able to talk it all out with Joe. Yes. We will. Get down to the bottom. Yeah, get down to the bottom of it. Yeah, right. How does grocery store Joe feel about the latest seasons of SNL?

Find out later on in the episode. On this episode. The, I have an official statement to make on Dancing with the Stars. I felt like, you know, Tyra Banks has been on our show. I have given her the benefit of the doubt with hosting. It was like, you know, she's just starting. Maybe she'll get into it. she's now, this is, I think, the third season she's doing.

It's not working. It's not working. Fuck them. Say how you feel. It's not working. She's an executive producer. She may have to look in the mirror and say, I'm not the best person to do this job. Alfonso Ribero, great.

He's like the second, you know, he's like the guy who's up in the wings and interviews everyone afterwards. But I just, she called Landon Barker Logan last night. Like it was like, she's like, oh. And she immediately was like, look at Courtney and Travis Barker and. their son, Logan, Logan, and then it was like, come on. He's so not a Logan either. He's so not a Logan.

Travis Barker would never name his son Logan. Never, never. But there's just been, there's just been a few too many miscues at this point where it's like, yes, it is live TV. Everyone is going to make a mistake on live TV. But it's just like,

it's, I just don't enjoy it. Maybe that maybe I'm, I'm sure there's people that do. don't, I just don't think that it works. And how many times are you going to use that it's live TV? Yeah, I know. Excuse me, there are other hosts out there hosting live TV that do not mess up like you do, Tyra. Yeah. You're not cut out for live TV.

Accept it. Accept it. Your time is past. Oh, my. Okay. Who would be a good host for Nancy? Erin Andrews. Chris Harrison?

Oh, no. I would. I don't like Didn't Aaron Andrews host Yes you did But it was Tom Bergen And they didn't mess up like Tyra did I don't know what

Like I still don't think that they just They Should have kept that gig But it is what it is I Logan Barker I would have gone with somebody I would go now

I feel like maybe Somebody a little younger Younger Like just somebody that like reaches a younger audience. Vanessa Hutchins would actually be great probably. Kiki Palmer. I was just about to keep on her.

She would be so big, too big for it. Yeah, yeah. But Kiki Palmer would nail it. She's too big. She's too big for Dancing with Stars. But Kiki Palmer would be an amazing host. Yeah, she would. She would.

Yeah, I just. Vanessa Hutchins seems like she's going backwards. Even maybe like a comedian. I don't know. Like somebody, I just, there's something, there's something missing. There's just too many moments where it's just like, and I just, I feel like it's very,

very scripted for them, which I get. Like, it's live TV and you have stuff written down and everything. But it just feels like sometimes they're not very prepared. It's constantly like reading or like. You know who would be a good host? You. I would be a great host to dance with stars. You should get up there.

I would be a great host to dancing with the stars. But, no, there's a long list of people who would be absolutely amazing at hosting that show just feel like it's been a straddle. Do you think they should be a dancer or that doesn't matter? No. Or not a day, I guess. Tom Bergeron was the host for a bejillionie.

Tab shoes to host? You got to do a dance to host Dance with the Stars? A couple twirls? They haven't had one. They haven't really had anybody. Was that a day get Fran? Because she's no dancer?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I. Back off, buddy. We're sick of your comments. I don't. know something's

they got to look at that something's a rye they got to look at that and think like maybe this isn't the the right person to host show person to host the show how do you spell a rye a w-r-y a-w-r-w-r-w-w-w-w

we had a meeting what go ahead I was going to because you were talking about pronouncing words I was proud of myself in the meeting you did nail that word specificity yeah you nailed that I also pitch a balsamic glaze in a meeting today

Yeah. That did happen. Talking products. I don't know what came over me. What would you call it? So this actually was a conversation that I had the other day with Marty and two of his friends. We, I'm obsessed with this specific balsamic dressing from a place that I won't name because I don't want them to sell out of the dressing. And so. What? Fucking gatekeeper. It's not, they're like a local. Yeah, I know exactly what I'm talking about. You know what I'm talking about. And so I don't want it.

That's an excuse. I'm gatekeeping. There's only one place. It's on Long Island. So sorry if you don't live on Long Island, you wouldn't be able to go anyway. And you can't order it online. Whatever.

Anyways, yes, I'm gatekeeping it because I don't want them to run out. They make it homemade. I don't think they have enough hands. I love that you're going with this spin of, they're a small business. They couldn't handle it if everybody bought their balsamic. No, I honestly, it would be detrimental to my life if they could not handle making all the balsamic and I couldn't get it anymore.

So his friends were like, do you have, do you still have that balsamic dressing here? I said, ah, I ran out. God, like, I just love that dressing. And then I started talking about how I love balsamic glaze. Like, I'm so specific about the balsamic glaze. I have such a passion for it. And they were like, why don't you make your own balsamic glaze? And I said, if only I could figure out this damn recipe to this place,

And then we were joking and somebody said in one of your next meetings, why don't you pitch a balsamic glaze for you and Fran? Oh, they said that. Would we want a glaze or a vinaigrette? No, a dressing. A dressing. So a dressing. Not a glaze.

A glaze. A glaze is different. It glaze is different. Well, we could have multiple, but I think dressing, a balsamic dressing. Okay. And they said you should pitch that in your next meeting. So I texted them immediately in that meeting being like, guys, I did it. I said it.

like a very high up business and everyone's like I was like I said it I said the balsamic thing not sure it's happening but somebody else that was in the meeting texted me after I said it and was like and they didn't say it out loud but they texted me like I'm crying you need a dressing

and so it hit for one person not a resounding yes we just come out with her own line of salad dressings but no but a balsamic dressing would be so on brand for us. What is... We're Italian. I feel like you don't even talk about it that much.

Because I have... Because she doesn't want to tell anyone the balsamic dressing that she loves. That's why she doesn't talk about it publicly. And how much do I love it? She really does love it. Noah, I have gone out of my way. That's a problem. She can't copy

them because they make their own special dressing. They don't sell it in stores. They make it, it's like a, it's a bistro place. And you have to go there and say, hey, can I get some bottles of this dressing? And then they bottle it up for you. Like, I am so passionate about this fucking dressing. On the table and they go on the back.

Listen. No, they sell it in this. They sell it. If you go in, you can order. But they're dressing. Only there. Yeah. And I am so, Fran knows how passionate I am.

Yeah, yeah. She is. And so, yes, I guess publicly nobody has known until now, which then starts the process of us making our own balsamic. See? Now we're talking about it. People know how passionate I am in the future. If this is a reason for us to like head to Italy and test some...

Oh, that'd be awesome. Hey, test some spinaigrettes. Spin chicklets has pink Whitney because they love pink lemonade and vodka together. Yeah. I love balsamic dressing. So why couldn't Maria and Francesca's balsamic dressing exist? Yeah. I'll be completely honest.

I would be happy to let that be your balsamic dressing. Fine. When I'm making millions off my. balsamic fucking dressing and you said you didn't want to be a part of it? No, I'm not saying I don't want to be a part of it. I would love to be a part of it, but I'm saying Maria and Francesca is, it's a tongue twister.

It's a long, you know? Freya. Yeah. Well, we could show. Freeas Balsamic. Excuse me. Yeah. I would buy that immediately. I see it. This is our new end of that makes me think it's like a frozen drink. What am I thinking of Marie? Oh, there's a Maris. They do dressing.

Yeah, they do dressing. I like their blue cheese. Dressing. Marie says a good blue cheese. Well, why can you like? Maria's. Yeah, but. Something chicks.

Because I wouldn't go into a store and buy chicks balsamic. That doesn't scream good balsamic to me. What are other Friday Energy something? No. No, that wouldn't be good balsamic to me. No, like Friday Energy, you use that for a collaboration for something else. That doesn't make sense for the balsamic. The balsamic comes from our town.

heritage. Maria and Francesca, there's something to build with that. What about like lightning balsamic? Like lightning bolt. No. No, you are not seeing our vision. You're not sure.

I might use my mom's name. My mom has a very Italian name. Rosarius balsamic. That's way better. That's actually a great idea too because I do feel like that there is a combination. Oh, what are you to both of our moms?

Because my mom's middle name is Rose. Rose's balsamic. Yeah, like we could, there's something there. There is. There's something there. Yeah. Yeah. There is.

Wait a second. Wait a second. And I'm not taking this way from our moms. Yeah. My grandma's name, Betty. Betty's balsamic. It kind of rolls off the time. It does.

Like Italian, is it? Betty. Benedetto was her full name. Betty sounds just normal to me. Betty's balsamic. Well, Betty, obviously. Betty's a nickname. Betty's balsamic and we get the rights to Betty Boop

and we have her on the cover. That would be a lot. You have a famous Betty's Betty White. Let's see see how much we have been thinking because of something we're passionate about. Balsamic. Yes.

Anyways, I don't know how we got. Balsamic dressing. Balsamic dressing is our future. You know the cheetah girls meeting? Yes. When he's like pitching them with their heads, we go all around the world. That's me pitching the balsamic.

Just balsamic dressing popping up everywhere. We can be in Italy. California. Because balsamic comes from grapes. Yes, it does. Bet you didn't know that. I actually didn't know that. Well, then I do, I mean, look, Napa.

We could be in salad shops worldwide. We're not even salad shops. We can be in grocery stores. Then we do a collab with grocery store Joe with his sauces. If grocery store dough can make sauce, why can't we make balsamic? I'm done. That's the last I'll say. Would you rather make like a wine?

No, I mean, I love red wine. Yeah. But I don't, you have to learn a lot about red wine to then sell your wine. I don't think you have got, we would have to do a lot of tastings because there's a lot. The balsamic vinegar, olive oil worlds, you got, you got to learn a lot too. Yes. And I am more... Nine million types of out there.

I'm more excited about doing the balsamic tasting that I would wine tasting. I love red wine, but like I'm not too picky about it. I know which ones I like. And a lot of them taste similar to me. Balsamic is so particular to me. There you go. I'm tired of saying the word balsamic.

But if you see my vision... Is there... Is anyone shorted balsamic? Like, somic? No, I wouldn't... Cosmic balsamic. What? Cosmic balsamic?

Cool. Okay. If you support... It has like stars. It looks like space. Yeah. If you support my balsamic endeavor, please post on your Instagram story and tweet out that you support it. Can't believe just suggested to shorten the name balsamic.

Yeah. What would be the point of that? How would anyone know it's a balsamic dressing? Well, you'll have the full name somewhere on the bottom of it. I'm not trying to get cute with this. Yeah. that can be nationwide, worldwide. Rowe's balsamic.

The world is there. And it's also, it doesn't, the balsamic doesn't have to be in the name, right? Like, Pink Whitney, the vodka's not in the name of what that drink is called. No, but Pink Whitney is also a collaboration with New Amsterdam vodka. Yeah, you know. Yeah.

So it's like, you know it's a vodka because it's New Amsterdam vodka. But no one says, give me some New Amsterdam pink, it's just Pink Whitney. I know, but. Like, it could be so iconic that. that you just say, give me row roast? Pass me the row rose. But then we would have to potentially collab with another

vinaigrette company, like a balsamic vinegarate company. Please. That like that is passion to me. That is something we could sell because people know now, because we talked for 20 minutes about this, they know how passionate we are. You'll see you one day when we're at the top of the dressing list. All right, let's get into today's show.

The real best dressed list. Oh, wow. It's time to be real. That was a good joke. The real is best dress list. I said the real best dressed list. We will be at the top. We will be. Good one, Franie.

All right. Let's get into today's topics. We're going to be talking about Kanye West. We're also going to be talking about Giselle and Tom Brady. The rumors may be true. It may be true. And we're going to have Wells on and we shit on his whole thing. and I hope that he is okay with that.

I didn't know you didn't. Wait, what? We shit on his bit a little bit. I asked you a question because I said the internet did. I didn't shit on it. Yeah. Okay.

And we also have grocery store Joe and Serena and Kelly Geeks on Bachelor in Paradise. And my lip is bleeding, so I'm sorry if you're watching on YouTube because that is not a pretty sight. All right, let's get into it, starting off of Cognac. As you guys know,

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time. Kanye West is at it again. Add it again. And I'm just like, you know what? Why are we still talking about this guy? Because he does things for shock value. We know that by now. Why get up in arms about a guy we know is going to continue doing this stuff. I know. I've said it time and time again. I'm so sick of talking about Kanye because we just keep giving. Kanye what he wants and that is for us to be talking about him and yes he is Kanye yay so of course you know one of the most famous people alive we're going to talk about him so like he doesn't even need that although he does things for shock value yeah and people get so angry and it's like everyone just needs to ignore him although it's hard it's very frustrating because he has it's what it's

what everyone's talking about he has such a massive platform that it is impossible to ignore because people are talking about what he is doing. And when he is making statements in the way that he is currently, it's just like, how does that go on, it doesn't go unnoticed. Everybody notices it. But there are people who do say this is wrong and that's what we, you know, can also talk about. So anyway, to sum this up, Kanye West, and it's Monday, I literally said, oh, the easy show is coming up. It's probably, there's going to be something. And yeah, there was certainly not what I expected it to be,

but this is what, you know, this is what happened. He, his show, Paris Fashion Week, he had a t-shirt on the runway. Back of it said, White Lives Matter. A lot of people there were very upset with the messaging. He also posted a picture of himself. and Candace Owens, and they're both in T-shirts where the back says White Lives Matter. And a fashion editor, she's a big fashion editor for Vogue, Gabriella Carrifa Johnson,

she was at the show and she had posted like right away just being like, oh, no, like when she saw the shirts. And she went on to post her opinion on Instagram and write about it and clearly open to talking about it. and clearly open to talking about it. And Kanye took the angle of then attacking her looks-wise on Instagram posting. I may have to throw another report in there. But he threw a, he posted her Instagram. He posted a picture of her, of her outfit and was like, this is a fashion editor, like making fun of how she looks.

And then there was another one where he like zoomed in her boots and was like Anna would hate like he's talking about Anna went to her the whole thing. So it just felt petty and mean and like Gigi Hadid said felt like it was bullying. Gigi had posted on one of his Instagram. She commented and said that she like she said she's basically was like you are a bully. She wrote, you wish you had a person. of her intellect. You have no idea. Ha ha ha, dot, dot, dot. And there's actually

a point to any of your shit. She might be the only person that could save you. As if the honor of being invited to your show should keep someone from giving their opinion, question mark. L.O.L. You're a bully and a joke. Fashion is very like, you can like something. You can hate something.

People have their opinions. Not everything's going to be universally liked. When you do something that's certainly controversial, you're going to expect people to not agree with you. and you have to be able to accept that. So for Kanye, like, if you're going to do something like that, don't get, don't start bullying the people who are critiquing you or saying what you're doing is wrong.

That's what I don't get about Kanye is that it's okay for him to critique other people, but it's not okay for other people to critique him. Yeah. Which is something he's never going to get. Like, you know what I'm saying? A narcissist. Right. It's just one of those things that like Kanye is never going to agree with any of the people.

that are telling him he's wrong. He's never going to see it in the eyes of normal people being like, what are you doing, Kanye? Like it's just, it's his way or the highway. I've never said that before. Yeah. But that's just the way it goes for him. And so if he went to a fashion show and hated something, he would get online and say,

I fucking hated this and would put it all over his Instagram, but somebody does it to him and he says that's not okay. It's his world in his eyes. And that's just the way it's going to be. And I think that we have seen that time and time. Again, he does things for shock value. His opinions are all over the place. They're all, you know what I mean?

Like, it's just, I'm just so sick of Kanye. I'm so, so sick of Kanye. As am I. As am I. It's like you said, it's just like you can't do any criticism. Like no critic. Take, it's also fashion. If you make a, like, if you make, regardless of the, if it was just a outfit that

he put out without the messaging that it had. And someone said, oh, I don't, you know, I didn't like that sweatshirt. Deal with it. That's what happens. So if you're going to put something out there with White Lives Matter on a t-shirt and people are going to share their opinions about that and talk about what they think about that, you got to accept that because you're the one putting out a message in the first place.

Like, shouldn't you have expected for people to get mad about that? That's why he did it. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, and bring, and Kenzoans being there. He did that because he knew it was going to rile people up. Yeah. Yep. So it's just, I'm just so sick of John.

I honestly thought what Gigi wrote was spot on. I think Gigi and Bella have both worked with Gabriella often and they know her. And it's, they're really speaking to her intelligence. And they're just like, she, she is even showing you grace in the way she was posting about what you are doing when she doesn't really need to. And now you are going to like just attack her appearance. Now were the models that he posted, did they walk in his show? I don't think so. Okay. That was confusing. Yeah. I think we would have seen if like Angelina Jolie was walking. Yeah. Definitely. And I don't know if a lot of people could really get behind.

I don't know if a lot of people on that list who saw what the show was would get behind that messaging. Well, that's what I'm saying. Like if they showed up and then they were like, oh, fuck. We didn't know he was going to do this and now we're a part of this show this doesn't look good yeah you know how we joked at the the the hollywood unlock guy jason lay how he like he went to work directly for conier after this he uh quit yep yeah sounds about right so i it's it's yeah and i don't i didn't i i didn't really read this thoroughly but i saw like recently kandis owens was like calling kim kimp cardashian a prostitute she did Yeah, I saw that on Not Skinny, but on that posted on her story.

She said that Chris Jenner is a pimp and Kim Kardashian is nothing but a body without a soul. Yeah. Yeah. Awful. Fun, fun person to hang out with when it's your, when she's talking about the mother of your four children. Right, right. Like, okay, you guys may be divorced, but that is the mother of your kids. So that is.

Yep. I just, the whole thing is fucked up as always. And I was happy to see Gigi say, you know, Gigi has a loud voice. in the fashion industry. So I liked that she did say something. It looks like it may be over for Tom Brady and Giselle. The divorce lawyers are being called in. Guys, we have not talked about this.

We haven't. Like there have been rumors for weeks and weeks, and we have not discussed it because it just felt like, for me at the beginning, it still really felt like rumors. It was like, I don't know. I feel like there have been rumors about them in years prior. and maybe they can work it out. But now we've reached the point where page six is saying

both parties have hired divorce lawyers and things are moving forward to separate, like they're bringing in these people to now discuss the division of assets and all their bejillion dollars that they have. I'm team Jazeel. I as am I because there's a thing. Like, Jazeel.

Tom Brady publicly went to get me so I'll publicly go against him. Fair. Fair. That's the way it rolls. Yep. Tom. That's the way the cookie crumbles. Yep. Tom Brady.

Yep. Yes, I am speaking about the Tom Brady. Yeah. Yeah. Tom. So fucking wild. Anyway. I don't think people, a lot of people are they probably know.

That's crazy. Well, Tom Brady publicly tweeted against me. Yes. During. the time everybody knows about. In a very similar, like... That's why she just said...

That's why she just said, I'm Team Jezelle. No, no, I know. Hashtag Team Jezell. That's why she said it. Yeah. So, here, like... It would be a good tweet. I would be an...

If I wanted to, but I'm not. You could think about that. I feel like it's funny. Team Jazelle... So, Jazelle was, is such a powerhouse in her industry. And when she... she and Tom Brady got together. Like, she was the supermodel.

The supermodel. She makes so much money. Like, Giselle's net worth is wild. How much money do you think Giselle Bunchin is worth? Like, a lot of her. More than Tom. Yeah, Giselle Bunchin. 300 million?

It's alleged to be around 400 million, which is more than Tom Brady. Is it like, yeah? I feel like it's so hard to tell now that because they've been married so long. Well, yes. She's kind of been like retired for a while, right? Yes, but that's like, that's how much she made like she was making in. She was making so much money.

But I'm thinking about like his brand deals and and hit his topic alone. I mean, she still works. No, yeah, for sure. She still does campaigns and stuff. So, but it's more like it. And she's spoken about it in interviews that she's done in the last. few months where she definitely put more of her career stuff to the side for Tom, for football, for his career.

They got married. They had kids. She moved to Boston. She's raising those kids. And she kind of had to, you know, probably put a lot of her stuff on pause. Tom Brady refuses to retire. The guy just won't stop playing football. And I think for the last probably five-ish years, she's dying for this guy to retire.

and to have a bigger role in their children's lives and their family's lives and probably for her to be able to take more business opportunities, it's like, hey, he had his time, like, it's my time. Let me, I want to do some more stuff, but I can't because he's still playing. And they had a parent, they allegedly had some big massive blowout fight. And they have been living separately. And there was a rumor that he was, that she was at one of his games,

but it doesn't look, it doesn't look good for them. I'm actually a little surprised. Although, hearing rumors in the past, maybe not, but to, on the outside, looking in,

looked like a good, good, look like a good relationship. And I think it, I think it was, and I think it is, but like, you could be a, you could, when you are one,

when you were alone as a couple, you could be a good, great couple. Like the summers could be amazing for Tom and Jazeel. But how long does Zazel have to put up with the years and years and years of him playing? But it seemed like

oh they were happy like with him retiring. Everything was good. And then like one more year is going to just ruin their retirement. I don't think it's one more year. And he never said it's one more year. Like he never said I'm coming back. Oh, I think he only says, I'm unretiring for one more year. It's like he could play for five more years. He's going to play as long as he physically can.

Which feels right now... I would say like a couple more years max like probably. Like he's old. Like I mean he's like 45. I know. But does that really matter when he's still playing the way he plays? I think he's always going to be like, oh, you know, I got one more year in me. Yeah.

Until he like physically cannot get on that field. Until his body gives out on him, I think he will keep playing. Especially if they do get to... forced. What's going to stop him then? Yeah, true. Nothing. Yeah. But, I mean, it's, anything like this is very sad. They have young kids. And that sucks to be seeing all this and all the rumors and everybody's been talking about it for weeks. That, you know, there could be a split happening. But this is one where it's like, it's not out of the blue.

It's not random. It, for the situation that they're in, it does. makes sense. It feels like to the outside world. Giselle and Pete Davidson and me out. It'll be really weird to see Ta Brady with anyone else. Yeah. Except that football on his hand. Yeah.

I think he's just dedicated to football life. He's married to the game. Yep. Yeah. As they say. He is. And that's probably why his actual marriage isn't working. So. How long have they been married? They've been married a pretty long time. Like almost 20 years, right? No, I don't. I wouldn't say 20 years.

15 like they got married in 2009 oh okay so yeah well it's no it's like 13 13 they just celebrated their 13th anniversary in February of they got married February 2009 so yeah I mean look it's that it's definitely it's a power couple that you would never think would have a problem but when there have been rumors for years now that Jazele is frustrated with him not actually retiring every time he considers retiring, you're going to get pretty fed up. I think he'd be better off too. Why not just go live that life?

You've had a legacy. Right. Competitive, you know. Yeah. It would be like friend retiring from trivia. Yeah. It really would. It really would.

And I would just unretire right after. that's the thing she just she got a taste of it like she like she got it he was like i'm done i'm retiring and then he took it away from it's shocking that she was caught off card from what it sounds like like all of us being like maybe we thought he actually retired but it's like she actually thought he retired well think about like husband and wife he's probably like no honey i promise like i am retiring and and it's not happening and joselle like like i said like i said I said, Giselle probably is like, I've spent so much of now our marriage supporting you and everything that you do. And you have those conversations when you're going into a marriage.

Is there a couple like that? I'm sure they had a conversation of like, you're going to play for this long. We're going to, I'm all in. I'm raising the kids. I'm supporting you. I'm there. But when it gets, when you do retire, because there is an end date on football, I would like to. to be able to do more things.

Football players out of every profession, you would think retire the earliest. And he's just like going and going. Yeah. Like most football players make it to like their mid-30s. Yeah. Yeah. No, he just refuses to retire.

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Of course, we have the lovely Kelly Keeves. Hello. Her usual, she's always here, so you guys know her, and you're tired of her. I never leave. But more importantly, we have Serena and Joe. Hello. A product of success from the Bachelor in Paradise franchise. And so we are so happy to have them here tonight.

We are going to talk about the show. Don't worry, everyone was really nervous knowing that it was just going to be me and Kelly. and Fran ran into Joe and Serena on the street and they said they wanted to do cutting stems and Fran kept saying talk to Joe and Serena they want to do kinds That sounds like a fake story when you tell it Like we just ran into television

It's it. She said just a selfie She was like look who we saw it. She actually scared I'm like she scared the fuck on me Oh yeah no we saw like a purple sweater arm just reach over and grab Joe's shoulder She came across as a crazy fan She goes purple

I look, I see purple on me. I'm like, bark! I did it. Look out, look out. I didn't see a face. They just saw an arm, and I was like, oh, my God. He's being attacked by a superman. Well, Fran was in Philly tonight.

She was competing in the dozen, and so, you know, rooting very hard for her. How they do? It's over it. I don't know if I should be saying results, so I'm not going to say them. Because I don't want to spoil and they get in trouble, so we're not going to do that. But then Fran kept being like, no, hit up, hit up Joe and Serena. Like, get that. And I think it was because she knew that if it was just me and you.

She was worried about you too. She was worried. She was worried. I think also were worried about us. When you showed up, you were like, we were a little worried. We were like, who's, you know, Fran does the hosting? You do the YouTube questions. What's the layout going to be?

We know. We know. They're avid watchers. So let's get into it. We're going to talk about last night's episode because Bachelor in Paradise is two nights. They do Monday, Tuesday. Last night's episode was focused around Victoria F coming in to onto the beach. What are your guys's thoughts?

on Victoria F, not having to do with Bachelor in Paradise now, but just like her arriving. Her rival made waves. That's all it did. You know what I mean? Everybody lost their fucking mind when she went down the stairs. Am I right in that? I feel like Genevieve freaked out enough for the whole beach.

That's true. I feel like she was the only one we really saw, like, panic, and I feel like it was enough for everyone there. But rightfully so, because she was obviously interested in Justin. And I also think she was the perfect contestant. to hold back an extra day and drop her. She was the right pick, for sure. Yeah.

I feel like she's, I don't know if anyone coming down will get the same reaction that Victoria Fuller does. No, I don't think so. No, I was excited about Victoria F. I think that, because she has so much confidence and obviously so beautiful. And so everybody on the beach freaked out, including Genevieve, which we saw her have her moment

last night on the show. She was freaking out. She didn't like the idea that Victoria F could steal her man. Now, we do know that Genevieve makes for good TV, clearly, the freakouts work, but how do we feel about all this crying in general? You know, she's losing it a little bit. She could reel it in. But at the same time, I am not someone to say, like, oh, reel it in. If I'm in that situation, I'm crying all day long.

I'm losing my mind, whatever. She, I think her concern is like, obviously Victoria African come through and steal her man. She also is now worried about this new mystery suitcase of Sally. Apparently her man also likes Sally. So it's like she now just feels like she's being abandoned entirely. I think that the second she gets a new somebody to kind of pay attention to her to give her, you know, what it is that she wants. She'll be fine. I think she's just panicking as if she has no one to keep her.

She's on like unstable ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She wants to stay and she just doesn't, she doesn't want to go home too soon, I think is where a lot of that panic came from. And when Vittoriof came down, she was like, wow, I haven't talked to anybody. And she still kind of refused to talk to anybody. I feel like she didn't, like, once I was happening, all she did was talk to people about how, oh my God, it's so fucked up. Like I didn't even really like him that much. Like he came down the stairs this morning and he barely even said hi to me right away.

Like he took his time to come over and say hi to me. And I just don't even think I like that. I used to do that to Joe. Like what are you talking about being pissed if he didn't come to out of you right over? I would do the morning lap. What's like the, oh, okay. And take your time. Yeah, I take my time.

Absolutely. I would probably do that same thing. I'd be like, oh, I'm not going to rush over. In the beginning. By the end I was like, ah, I want to see you. But in the beginning I'd be like, let me get my smoothie. Let me get a coffee and me. What about just bring you?

Are you expecting him to bring you a smoothie or coffee or any of that? No. But I'm not a morning person. I'm not a morning person. I hate the way. I'm not, yeah, I'm not that type of person. No, neither of us are. Here's pancakes.

But I think she was just looking for anything to like bring Justin down off the pedestal in her mind, you know? Like I think. Oh, without question. Yeah. Do you feel that there's a genuine connection between Genevieve and Justin or she just latching on to anything that looks and feels good because it's paradise? I would have said that one.

Except she didn't try to, like, date around after Justin went on the date right away. She was like, no, I'm obsessed with Justin. And, like, they're fighting literally all the time. And both of them are sticking it out. So there must be some, like, like, like, for each other. I think she was waiting for him, too. Oh, really? Yeah, she was waiting to come down.

And then he's interested in her, so she's all in. I forgot all about that, that she was waiting. You're totally right. Yeah. I was sweating so much. I know. And I honestly feel like I'm being like. It feels better whenever I say it, I think.

Because I was sitting here just silently sweating. Yeah. It feels better to say that I do not like being official. I am not loving this host and role. It feels very unlike. You're doing great. Thank you. It just feels like, we know you're a good host.

Look at me. This pen. You know? You know what I mean? You have the only way you can host is if you have a pen. That's like your thing. It just feels like I'm not able to get my takes off because I'm so worried about asking you guys questions.

Get a good. No. No. No. No. This is not about me tonight. This is about you guys. You want to switch spots?

Do you want me to do this? Yeah. Should you host? I don't know. So be hilarious. You host it? You host. Okay.

Let's switch. Oh my God, let's go. Wow, Fran. Fran better watch out now, for real. She's going to get her job taken. Oh, God. All right. All right.

All right. All right. All right. You don't have to go on my notes. Yeah, you take the pen. Oh, my God. I feel so much more. Okay.

All right, Joe, let's go. We have Genevieve. We have Genevieve and Justin. Yep. Yeah, we have Genevieve and Justin. Okay, so would you like to share your thoughts? Okay, so I feel like Genevieve is just crying way too much, but I understand that there's a lot that goes into the show.

Like, I feel like you're kind of sitting around a lot. There's no outside noise, although you are with a lot of people, so that could be a distraction. But last night I tweeted Genevieve's a no for me, and then which people replied, same, but she's also tweeting a lot about, like, shitting on herself. And so I do appreciate self-awareness. Same thing with Rachel from The Bachelorette.

when she came here to the office and we had shit on Rachel a lot and we talked to her in person about it and we were like, you know, we shit on you, whatever. And she was like, oh, watching my, I shit on myself. And so I feel like you don't know how you're going to act and you don't know how you're going to be perceived on TV,

but you could watch yourself back and be like, I didn't act great here. And in the moment, everything, especially in that environment, feels so big and so dramatic. And I'm sure, like, taking a step back, getting a good night's sleep and watching it, she's like, that was extreme, you know?

Oh, it was one day. Yeah, yeah. Which, if she is doing that, like, I respect that, you know? For sure. Also, I think, too, about reality TV, it seems like a place where you can just let your emotions fly as you want to. Like, you don't ever have to control yourself. You're not, like, in public. They're not, like, whatever.

Like, yes, you're on TV, but you're, they want you to feel everything. They want you to react in the biggest way as possible, whether you are, like, you normally act that way or whether you don't. And I think that, Genevieve, she's a sensitive girl. She's just, she's just, she's just. feeling herself she's feeling the moment she's letting all the emotions flow through her and whatever what do we think about her and uh aaron when aaron comes down the stairs oh we're jumping there we're jumping yeah yeah i thought i was hosting this yeah i'm sorry jeff i'm sorry jane so let's go let's go let's go okay so uh jenovies freaking out and then we have victoria in justing go on a date

we'll talk about the date in a minute but let's break down what else is going Aren't we doing... We're doing both. We're doing both. The Colts keep getting questions in here. I did not. I don't know. Yeah, we're not in a pretty.

But yeah, yeah. I have a little thing cut out for the first episode. Yeah. Oh my gosh, okay. So Justin, Genevieve, they go on a date. You just twirled that pet. Yeah, wow. You thought you were the pen girl.

He was like, please. And you seem a lot more comfortable now. Okay. So, what, did I seem uncomfortable? Yes. Really? And it had nothing to do with the mattress. It just...

I don't think so. Okay. You're wrong. Now, who else do we have on the beach that we want to talk about? What do you mean? I thought we're talking about Justin Victoria now. Chenet. Okay.

So, Cheney and Logan, how do we feel about their connection? They seem to be viving. They're making out in the ocean. It feels like Logan just vibes with whoever's right there. I feel like he's the only person he didn't really vibe with was Lace when he called her. And Haley. And Haley's impossible. And he was not nice to Haley.

No, he was not nice. stay haley and she went she tried to shoot her shot and he was just giving her nothing to work with no i'm not i'm not having this yeah i guess so i'm still sour on haley i'm sorry like i i hated how i hated her disrespect for lace so i'm still sour on her however no need to be mean to her just just say politely maybe it's not for me but i don't know i or if she's like i'm gonna try to pull you just be like you know what flattered but like i'm all in on cheney girl true true so who can i help me shoot a shot with next but then if he's not all in on cheney like he's clearly he's he's he's he's working the beach a little bit.

If she sees him no lot, like kind of going after the people when he's like, well, I thought you were with just Cheney, like what the fuck, blah, blah, blah. That was, I would see that. I actually kind of like Chenet this season. She does look a lot better, huh? I think she fits into Paradise.

Yes. I like her too. I think that she's playing it well. I think that Haley put all her eggs in one basket with Logan. Like she was like, oh, Logan does it like me? I'm done here. Kind of, I guess when a guy

or a girl doesn't like you on the beach, then it can get yourself esteem kind of like down. Totally. So then you don't feel like, eh, I want to, like, talk to more people. But some people, I feel like are going, like, all in right away on one person. I also feel like they are, yes, I feel like they're going on on one person. They also are just not, they're not all being so chatty. Like, it's like they think that this is the end, I'll be all.

Like, oh, my God, if we're not coupled up today, like, there's nothing can happen. It seems like nobody knows that other people are going to come out. Exactly. Like, Genevieve was freaking the fuck out and, like, not even talking other people. And Jill did the same thing. Well, I'm sorry, I'm jumping ahead to Jill. But, like, some of them, whenever, if their relationship or whatever they've been in for two days gets a little rocky or shakes up for a second, they're like, that's it. I'm going home.

Forget it. It's like, you were just having a conversation with somebody else. Like, maybe it will require you stealing them away from their situation. But again, we've all been here for three days. I think that, you know, hearts aren't really going to be that broken if, like, something happens. But they just don't seem to do it. They just put their hands up. Yeah, they're like, I'm going home.

It's game over. My one try didn't work out. My one chance didn't work out. So there's a lot of, like... There's a first person you saw, basically. Yeah, there's more coming... Like, look at Rodney. Like, Teddy, you know, you could tell,

really spiraled into thinking, like, it's not going to work for me, it's not agree with Andrew, but Rodney was coming down. Little did she know. And, I mean, that didn't really work out either, but if she had been open to it, maybe. Now... All right, so let's go back.

Do you want to say something? Well, this is a question for you guys. Okay. For people who have been on the beach. Okay. Oh, yes. What would you say, because we're judging people based off of how they're reacting,

but you guys would know best. did you know right away were you like we need to get to know each other more like what was that connection like we were definitely into each other but I'm gonna say it took like six to seven full days call that what like a handful of episodes to be like okay yes like I'm super into

you're super into me like we're not going on any more dates like I think it was like I don't even know what week it was but yeah you would agree that was kind of the timeline we're both pretty like Practical realists and like it was like let's get to know each other. He was also sick the first few days, which made it a little bit of a barrier. True. And then yeah.

Then once you're in your room, but definitely not day one. Like it was so. Not like immediately obsessing this person. But I think with a lot of people, it's like they've come down either knowing maybe they've met this person once or they've known of this person and they've built them up in their minds and the excitement to get to know each other that they're just like, ah, I'm so excited to meet you. You're the one. Whereas with Joe and I, we didn't like, it wasn't that.

for us, right? How do you feel about all the people hanging out before or after? Hate it. Hate it. It's such a mistake. Agreed. I don't know why they do it. It never works out.

I think it's like somewhat unavoidable for some people though, you know? Like. If you live in San Diego. Yeah. Or New York for our season. I was fully locked down during the pandemic in Canada. I could not meet or see anyone. And that was a blessing.

It was a blessing. I feel like that would be how I would want it too. Like I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to even go to meetups and stuff. Like if I were on the. show and then I had the option for a bachelor. I don't think unless it's like my core crew people that are like my friends I don't think I'm going to like group events where everybody's there but I think it's hard because it's like well do I isolate myself if your friends are all going out to this concert tonight do I not go because I might go on paradise yeah that's true

I don't know I guess I I switch up my groups of friends like I'm thinking about it in in terms of barcel like if we were like I hang out with other friends yeah outside of it so I'm like oh I'll just hang out with them if I'm like thinking maybe I'll go to paradise like what about to meet six months. Who on this season has met before? Is it really just the Jill, Kira, Romeo situation that they're acknowledging? So far, I think that they, yes. And I think that, um, I think it's Teddy,

I think multiple people have DM'd. I'm sure. And I think it's obsessed. Who's obsessed? Brandon and Serene were, he was obsessed with her, right? Like he was always, like, loving her when he was seeing her on Clay in season? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. So there's some weird drama going on between, was Akira and Justin, because Kira warned Genevieve that... Romeo, Romeo. Or whatever. No, you're right. Kira warned Genevieve...

About Sally... And said... Kira Jill Romo. And was like, you should be worried because he was making out of Sally all week and a stagecoach. Yeah, like, Genevieve was like, what do I do if Sally comes down?

Should I be worried? There's rumors that they were obsessed with each other at stagecoach. And Kira essentially said, like, hey, I actually was there and, like, you might want to be worried. Confirmed they weren't making all the weekend. Yeah.

And then they had a little fight on Twitter where Justin was like, I don't remember you at stagecoach. And then there was pictures released where Justin and Kura are very much in the same picture. So Justin looked like an asshole. Yeah. Crazy. So how do we feel about another big thing? How do we feel about the Sally suitcase?

Do we care? Is it? How did you feel about the skit? Yeah. Oh, the skits. Yeah. The skit. Okay, let's talk about the skit.

Let's unpack the skit. Okay. So the Wells, well, I love Wells. Well, I love Wells. And I thought he did a tremendous acting job. Yes. Yep. Yes.

And I thought the skit was a little dragged on. A little long. A little long. And it was weird. It was weird. I was not expecting to do. It was also the fact that everyone listening to him tell this story was like, oh my God, this is crazy. I'm like, you really think a producer got in a trunk for four hours.

You feel like it's just also fake. Well, okay. No, so we had Wells on our show yesterday, which will, if you're watching this now, will premiere tomorrow and this part will be in our podcast so you're going to be a little confused for listening but he said he worded as the dumbest thing they've ever done so like he was like it was really it was funny it was the dumbest thing we've ever done but I think it was meant to be yeah yeah and then we asked him is did this really happen and he was like yes it is a true story it really happened but we had no footage so the only way because then we did the skit then people didn't believe in me doing

the story time people don't believe it he was like this actually did happen and he was he he he he emphasized that to us. And so if I trust our guy Wells, I'm just going to look no further. I do. I do trust Wells. I do trust Wells. And honestly, if the skit was anyone else, I'd probably be a lot harder on it, but I love Wells and I think he's genuinely funny. Agreed.

And I think he did a good job. If it was a random producer, I would be like, I hate this. Why are they doing this? If it was Wells or Trent, I'm in. Does anyone know who the second dude was in the skit? No, random producer. He's not a producer. No, he's not a producer. I've never seen that guy. He was a random Canadian or something? He did not. He did not

word him as random. I'm wording him as random. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe like a production assistant or something like that. Okay. That makes sense. Well, yeah, it was all fine. I think, uh, did we need all that pomp and circumstance for Sally who, you know, really wasn't that traumatic? Yeah, they really wanted her. They really were like trying to hype up some Sally. And I, and with the suitcase being there with her name on it and all that shit, all I know is that if a bunch of people went through my suitcase and dumped it all on the floor and was going through all my stuff, I would lose my fucking mind. Like, there's absolutely no way. I also wouldn't, like, go

through someone's suitcase. Like, I would never. That was really weird. Like it's one, I think it would have been funnier if they all just, like, freaked out about the suitcase, like, walking around in circles, just, like, staring at it. Like, as if it's, like, you know. Don't touch it. Yeah, right?

But do you think producers were, like, open it? Yeah, but don't. Maybe. Like, I think, like, Genevieve and Jill I saw on Twitter, both tweeted, like, guys, come on, like, use your critical thinking, like, you know, this probably isn't Sally's, like, hinting that it wasn't her suitcase. But, like, either way, like,

guys, it has her name. on it, you opened it not knowing if it was really her suitcase. Just don't open it. I just don't open other people's shit. If a producer tells you to open it, you don't have to. No, you say like, look, I think I'm gonna not. I feel uncomfortable. And also for it to be like, oh,

a vibrator, like, so classic, like, okay, and then you're like, oh, Sally brought a vibrator to the beach, and then it's just like the whole conversation. Right, the extension so... It was really... It wasn't even... Right, they were gross. And also, the ones, the extensions that they found inside the suitcase were gross. But they Also, I think it was really just the disrespect for the items inside the suitcase that really bothered me. It was like, they just like dumped it out on the ground and started kicking it around.

That is what it bothered me. And imagine it is her clothes. Like, that's what I'm saying. Maybe imagine it is some of her shit. So it's turned off by that. But yeah, I mean, I'm sure it was all fake. Everything is just a scary. The longest we've talked about something has been the suitcase.

Yeah. Really? Okay. Okay. So let's, should we move on to Romeo? Second episode. We got along the second episode. All right.

Second episode, Rose Ceremony. You know, it's the obvious ones. You have Brandon and Serene, Teddy and Andrew. and then everyone's waiting for Romeo. Yeah. And Jacob. And Jacob. And Jacob.

And Jacob. Who is Romeo? Wait, Romeo is the guy who's crying. So Romeo's the guy who's crying. He's the one who screwed over Jill by going for Kira and going for Brittany. Yeah. Okay. And he really was going to go to the chill.

They were great. And then he was like, I'll be right back. I'll get another drink. And he saddled up to Brittany and was like, hey, girl. And she, like, dodged his kiss. And he tried to kiss her. Yeah. She was like, um, I don't know.

I was like. I did not watch last week. It was this week. It was Monday. You did watch it. This was last night? Yeah. Did you not watch Monday?

No, I watched. But it was at the end. It was at the end also. To be fair, it was at the very end. You guys saw how distracted I was tonight. Imagine how distracted. That's tough. Not here.

Yeah, okay. We can't always get on a lot of preparation. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. Well, no, he was crying the whole time. What he did, and we could talk about it, he was talking with Jill. And after all that drama with Kira, he decided I want Jill.

We like Dromeo. We're all in. on him. Then they're chit-chat and all of a sudden he like kind of goes off to go do something else. He just basically was like, I'll be right back. And then he went and go found Brittany and sat down with her and was like, can we talk real quick? And I was like, I just really want to see where this goes. And she was like, what? Because you just made a big deal about being with Jill. She didn't even say anything. She's just staring like, what the fuck. And then he was like, please, like we should do it. And then he leaned in for a kiss

and she was like, oh, no. Like literally this is what happened. I had too much respect. He leaned in, like lean in to kiss me. And her face. Don't actually kiss me or maybe do Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah Just do it, Rhea, do it Lean in and she literally went And like swerved him

But he went in fast Like they were not speaking And she was giving him a look of like What the fuck is wrong with you? Okay, this is coming back to me now Yeah, yeah I think I saw it like And then he, no, the best part

Is that after that he gets Like completely swerved by her He leaves Jill hears about it immediately And it's like fuck you That's ridiculous What are you doing? Yeah, she said we just went to it anymore

Yeah Like don't talk to anymore Then he goes Back to Kira originally. I don't know. Where did Romeo come from? Romeo came from

Michelle season. Oh, okay. So then he goes back to Kira who he already told her to her face like, I'm pursuing Jill, like you need to back off. He then goes back to her crying tears and is like, I just hope that maybe we can rekindle something that we've had.

And she was like, what? Like, what are you talking about? I heard that you went to talk to Brittany. You already rejected me to my face. Now you're coming back here. And she called him out on that. He just started bawling hysterically in good stuff.

Then, then, he goes, then he's, like, walking around by himself. And Haley comes out of the shadows and is like, hey, how you doing? And he goes, man, I feel good about you. And she was like, what? Me? And then she was like, oh, no, sweetie, no. And then he just started crying again. But it was like he didn't have a rose.

Like, he was acting like, I don't have a rose. And I need to make a connection to get someone's rose. And, like, all my options have failed. And I'm like, buddy, you got the rose. Like, you're not going anywhere. He was the one with the power. And also, too, he, for all those girls, being like, oh no, I'm not into it, I'm not into it, whatever.

No one is ever going to say no to a rose to stand in a competition. Like, he could have given it to anybody. Right. That's what I said. This is when we were together, but I'm still here. Yeah. You should have gave it to Hunter. Yeah.

Right. That was her home. I thought, I was sad she went home. Hunter went home because Victoria pulled a move on Johnny at the cocktail party. Yes. Yes. You saw this. That was tonight.

You remember that. Yes. All right. What do you think about that? You like Johnny. No, you don't like Johnny. I like Johnny. I like Johnny.

She liked Johnny. She liked Johnny. I don't like Johnny. I don't like Johnny. I think he's so funny. Oh, Johnny doesn't do a half. He's got some, like, sneaky vibe to him. I like him.

No, I, it's... A sneaky vibe. He's like, he's probably, like, just funny on the low. Yeah, he's mysterious. Like, if you might get a couple good one-liners to be, like, stand up. No, like, under... Right, like, I want to hear those.

I want to be, like, on the inside joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, see, this is going to sound mean. There's just something about his face. That doesn't draw me in. I thought you started about. didn't me? Logan's face either.

Logan's space is unsettling. So two faces. Logan's faces is it goes down and out. Yeah, no, I'm not trying to pick up our people's faces. So let's fast forward. Johnny does not do it for me

in the slightest. Like, his entire being, I don't like. Who does John? I don't say Johnny looks like someone. Who does Johnny look like? I don't know, but Johnny made a whole conversation about it. I said that you probably like Johnny

and Johnny turned out to be a psycho. Yeah, well, that's always the case. Yes. So. I like Bennett too Exactly So like No he's fine

He likes all my Instagrams Love you Ben and Miss you I love you I don't know I wish I could give you a reason He just doesn't sit with you No he doesn't It's like I don't

Find him funny Maybe that's what it is I don't think he's outwardly funny I think he's growing on you Or are you like a heart I don't know I would have to meet Do you just hate the rap Are you stuck on the rap?

Yeah I just The rap was bad The rap was bad I got like I just can't put my finger on it on what I get like pen doll vibes from him. Does that make sense?

No. I mean it does, but I don't see that. Yeah, I don't agree. I don't agree. I get more Jersey Shore vibes from Johnny. A little bit. I love the Jersey Shore. Does he have a chain? That's why I thought you loved them. If he had a chain, you know that I would be putting him apart like this.

But I bet he would, I bet he does have a chain. He does have a chain. His whole family has changed. Don't you remember his hometown? Really? John. Are you not have a chain? No, I... Johnny does not wear a chain guy. Should I pull up his Instagram and see? John is a chain guy, but I feel like we should move on from Johnny.

Let's move on from Johnny, but let's circle back on if you're going to search. You search in the meantime. And the chat, let us know. Does Johnny have a chain? Okay, so... Johnny has small lips. That's what it is. I don't like guys with small lips.

It's sorry. Poor Johnny. Okay. This is what he has. He has a chain. Told you. Oh. It's not like the kind of chain on the same thing you were talking about.

St. Anthony is not hanging from it. You're not into it. No, no, I like a cross. I think it is. Yeah, I think it is a cross. No, that is a saint. Who is it? Who is it?

It's one of the saints. I'm sure it's Anthony. Oh, no, no, it's not a saint. It's Mary? It's a B. See, I don't like that. Now I like it. I like the B.

I would be more... I'm surprised not a J. No, see, I'm not injured his chain. Okay, so anyway. And he's slowly over him. I'm sorry. I'm being mean for no reason. Roe ceremony, people go home, yada, yada, yada.

Okay. So now, first down on the beach, Aaron and James. Okay. They're back. Aaron and James. They're back. They left their shared apartment in San Diego to come back to the beach. I was shocked and I knew that it existed,

but I was shocked to see his leg tattoo. Yeah, that's something. I wasn't expecting that. We didn't get to see it. I have to keep my thoughts on. It was the only thing I could see when they... Don't say it. No, please look it out.

And don't say it. What? What was I going to say? About James. What? Say it. No, it's mean. I'm being so mean.

She's just thinking me. She's being silly. We're all being silly. Erin and James. You're covering me up. Erin and James. His head does not fit in body. You don't have to say it.

All right, moving on. Erin and James coming back to the beach are a funny, silly, dynamic duo, and they're coming in. The first thing they want to do, or I'm sorry, they're allowed to take two girls on a double date. Who do they choose? Genevieve and Chenet, the two girls who hate each other. Yes. Interesting. Produced are doing?

I would just say that was just probably going to happen. I think Aaron probably wanted to take Genevieve. And I think James would take whoever. And I think they probably were like, we think you did it off with Chenet. And he was like, sure. So true. Yeah, yeah.

And then. But I mean, they are hitting it off. They are hitting it off. It also brought up, brought up an old memory that I certainly forgot about. Not sure if you guys remembered

when Chenet and Genevieve were on the hot seat together, Women to Tall, and Sheney made up that, she's like, I went home after the breakup and was crying my eyes out. Brought back in all memory. They showed this in the episode. No, I know, I know, I know.

They did. Before that, we were talking about it before. They did show it in the episode. Yes, yes. we were talking about this. went home and fucked Aaron. So it was like, oh shit, blah, blah, blah. Genevieve clears her own name on the show, says that never happened. Although, I mean, they just came right to each other. We don't know if that never happened.

She said it. She said she was like, it's just untrue. Yeah. And I was like, interesting. I don't get the vibe they hooked up. I mean, maybe there was like some flirt. But she seemed pretty like. Maybe they just made out. And so there's a, they're confused on if that means they hooked up or not. Yeah, that's true. I did not know this was a screen behind us. Did you know that? Yeah, I did. I've been watching it. It's playing waves. I actually got distracted. I had no idea, and just now it scared me like there was somebody behind us. All right. Yeah, I don't know. So what do we, what do you think, Joe?

Joe, we haven't asked you in a while because you've been hosting. Well, I'm hosting. Well, I'm hosting. I have France job, which is very difficult. It is very difficult. It was. It takes away your personality. Yeah, it does.

It's really hard. But what do you think? Is that a shot of my personality right now? No, no, no. I meant in general, like it's true. It's true. It's shrews away your personality. She feels it.

It's like Larry David said in an episode of Kirk when he sits in the passenger seat and not in the driver's seat. He feels like his personality is taken 100%. Yeah. 100%. That's why I have no comment. Okay. Okay. You're not allowed to have a comment. You're not allowing yourself a comment. No, I just, all I want to do is host. Okay, perfect. Okay. So we are now, they are doing their thing and we see Justin. Justin's really upset. He's really nervous. Genevieve's on a date.

He said, you know, it's very hypocritical of her to go on a date. How do we feel? I don't think it's hypocritical of her to go on a date because he went on the date and then they had the conversation afterward and Genevieve was like, all right, yes, I just was upset, but, you know, it's new to the beach, whatever. Now she's doing the same thing and he's reacting the same way. So isn't he hypocritical for trying to like talk her down for what he was doing? Yes, I think they're both a little jealous of each other.

They're definitely. Definitely. I could never do a show of each other. Or into each other? I think they are into each other. Yeah, I know. I do think they're into each other. Do you think that will change when Sal?

They should just bang it. Am I think. She's also I see her with Aaron so much more than I see her I agree. And they're making out now. Erin and Genevieve?

Yeah. Do you think Genevieve's going to come back and be like, I'm in with Aaron by Justin or do you think she's going to be like torn? Torn. I think she's going to be torn. I think so too. I think so too.

Because she was, she did seem so obsessed with Justin. I think he said it earlier that all day long she was like, no, I just want him. I like him. I'm not talking to anybody else. Yeah.

Okay. So then. Interesting. The main drama of the night, Teddy breaks up with Andrew. Oh, Rodney comes down on the beach. Rodney's there. Everybody's like, I love Rodney. We love Rodney.

We love Rodney. Ronnie. I love Rodney. I love Rodney, too. So much. We're very pro-Roddy. So much. Oh, and Jared and Ashley.

Oh, yeah. They're also dead. How can we forget? They're just there on vacation. Their month stay in paradise. Yeah, they're just hanging out. Similar to Jesse Palmer and his wife, vacationing all over Europe. Ashley and Jared are not doing the same in paradise.

Good for them. Okay, so Teddy breaks up with Andrew. Andrew's upset. Teddy's crying, and then Teddy sends herself home. Yeah. And says, I don't want to sing goodbye to anyone. I talk to Andrew, and that's enough. That's crazy.

It's crazy. Yeah, I didn't understand that. Maybe she just doesn't want to be there anymore. I took that as like, I don't even care if I have a connection or if I don't have a connection. I want to get off the speech. She? Question. Agreed. Rodney talked to her, because she saw Rodney arrive, right?

Yeah. Yes. And then they had a conversation? Yeah. He pulled her to chat and she was like super flirty and he was into it and it was very cute. Uh-huh. And then she went, I think probably into an interview and like had a breakdown about Andrew. I was feeling really bad.

And then the whole breakup happened and then she left and then Rodney came down to take her on a date. That was the best part. Rodney coming, my favorite, honestly, of the whole episode was all of them crying and upset. Why did Teddy leave? She didn't even say goodbye. She just broke up with Andrew. She didn't even mention it. I'm leaving.

Like, she just left. What the fuck? And then Brody comes down like, woof. First day in paradise. Can't wait. You guys see Teddy? I'm trying to connect with her a little bit more

before I ask her on this date. And everyone's like, oh, like, Teddy just left. And he immediately was like, like, what happened? But it's drama. Like, I didn't realize. It is drama.

She didn't say about any of the girls. And Serene was her best friend. Yeah. Do you think that they didn't give her a chance to say goodbye or she left? No, she was saying, They were saying, like, you're just going to leave. You seriously just want to leave.

And she was like, yes, the only conversation I needed to have was with Andrew. I had it. I said my piece. I want to go home. Like, give me my back to her home. She might not even convince her to stay, right? I would have said at least. I know.

I'm assuming she was like, I don't want to like make this a bigger deal than is. I already feel uncomfortable. She doesn't seem like she's one for, like, drama confrontation. She might have just been like, I'm going to make this a big deal if I go in to say goodbye to everyone. And I just want to escape this situation. I feel like her and Andrew, another case of people that probably were interested beforehand, potentially built the wrong. relationship up in their mind and then it just didn't it like missed the mark

totally each other well I think they I think you're absolutely right I'm wasn't Andrew when he came down like I can't wait to meet Teddy yes he was so hyped to meet her and she was like I was really like to me too yeah yeah maybe she just didn't want to have to deal with the may honestly maybe she saw the fallout drama with like Genevieve Victoria Cura like all the drama that was already on the beach and all the tears that were already happening and just thought to herself like if I get myself in a triangle that's gonna happen to me and I can't I don't want to deal with it.

Maybe. Or maybe she talked to Rodney was just like, honestly, like, I just don't really see this working out either. I think she was worried about hurting two people and she was like, I'm out. I don't want to break up with Andrew

and then stay and have to break up with someone else. That would be, that would be my fear if I was in her situation. Makes total sense. Yeah. And then we have, do you guys want to talk about, like, Michael and Sierra?

At all? I'll be honest, I'm bored of tears with that right now. I don't know. Like, I am, I will raise this question. We talked about a little bit while we were watching the episode. Do we think Michael's intentions are good with all these people?

Do we think he's getting to know everybody? Do we think that he's just like kind of maybe like fuckboy behavior? He's on spring break. He wants to hang out with all the girls. Or do we think that he has a good connection? I think he is not romantically interested in anyone. I agree. Yeah.

I agree. Yeah, I don't think it's a fuck boy. But he's not a bad spot to be, I guess. I think he's just like being extra social because he probably doesn't feel. a really strong connection with one person where he's like, I want to invest all my time in this person. Yes. But I mean, we're not seeing like his entire day in life.

But for sure. I just, yeah, I don't feel the romance. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah. Extremely fair. All right. Should we get into some questions?

We should get into some questions. Questions. Let's get into it. A plus. Thank you very much. All right. All right. Questions, questions.

Will Sally self-eliminate herself again on Paradise? I think, definitely. I would say, yeah. I would say yes. If she needed somebody to come pull her on at the plane, basically, and they still couldn't get her on the plane, then I think that, I think, yeah. If that story's 50% true, she's going on.

Yeah. Why do we think that they want her on so bad if she doesn't want to do it? Like, if it seems like she just needs a lot of coaxing into it, maybe they're trying to, like, break out of a shower or something. Maybe there's a lot of guys down there that they know are interested in her. Maybe, maybe. And they're like, I mean, she's beautiful. Of course.

And she seems lovely. Yeah. She just seems pretty tied up in, like, her, you know, her engagement that she left Clayton for. before they even started. Yeah, she doesn't seem like she knows if she wants to be on the show or not. But I think they're like,

even if we get her down for a day, she could kind of stir up a little drop. I think just like don't be a part of the show, Sally, because it's very clear you don't know if you want to be a part of it. And I feel like if you don't know if you want to be a part of it, it's better to stay away.

I hope they keep bringing her every season. You want to appear every time? Just keep running that same clip. Make it longer every time, how long it will take to... Have her come out of the limo in the next Bachelor season. Exactly. Last exit.

How do you guys, sorry, Joe and Serena, how do you guys feel about the possible Casa Amora situation? And for those who don't watch Love Island, you don't know what Casa Amores. That's when they bring in a whole other group of people and they split the girls and the guys. And so they spend time with different girls. You spend time with different guys. How do you guys feel about that for Bachelor in Paradise? Because I do think it happens this season. And how would you guys have handled it if it happened to you?

As a viewer, I think it could be fun to watch. Yeah, I'm excited. I'm excited for the switchout. I'm excited to watch it. I, as a contestant, would have absolutely hated it. Nuss. Especially when you're, like, us or like a Brendan's stream where, I mean, I don't know their story, but at this point, like, they seem to be committed to each other.

They seem to be pretty locked in. Like, we were like that. If I was at the point where I'm like, I'm not dating anyone else. Like, I'm pretty sure I'm going to leave with this guy. So why are you splitting me up from him? Like, my whole, I only want to be here now to get to know him and you're splitting us up. Why am I even here? I'd be so frustrated.

But as a viewer, I'm excited. I feel like it's only good for the people that are unsure. Yes. Yes, definitely. But as a viewer, especially if you're like in a relationship and you're unsure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were you offended when JP asked who would be the next Joe in Serena?

No, I love that. I was probably, I tweeted that. Yeah, great. I think that's a compliment. Oh, Jay. I mean, Jesse Palmer? I think it's a compliment, right? Oh, yeah.

I was like, who's JP? I didn't even know who J. I know. I just knew that he was the one that said that line. I was like, oh, we're calling on JP. You know, I must have missed a fucking memo. Because I didn't know who Romeo was. I was like, oh, yeah, he must be a guy. I don't know.

That's why I asked. But do you think there will be? No. No. No, they'll never be a lot of it. I never felt it with you guys. Yeah. You know what I mean?

We really did. And it's only three episodes in. So did Mabelie. Yeah, yeah, you guys crushed that a commercial. Yeah, they did. Do you guys think that Teddy is coming back? No. No.

I don't think. No. Yeah, that was quite the exit. She seems like she's not there to, like, get her screen time, you know? No. She seems like she's there for the actual experience. And she's posting. She's back at her job.

She's doing great. I don't think we'll ever see Teddy again. No, I think she's done with the show. Which is sad. She's so sweet. People are like, who's JP? I feel like a fool. I was like, oh, J.P.

You idiot. Ria? Come on. When you first said, J.P., I was thinking the guy with the long hair. Yeah. Yeah, me too. I was like, what does J.P.J. say? I thought, I thought it was Jacob.

No, no, not JPJ. Oh, that's what I... I heard JP and... I was talking about it. I was thinking Jacob. Jacob. Oh, this is actually a good question. He does remind me of JPEJ.

Does... I'm sorry, also. I'm wearing my shoes on the bed because I'm not wearing socks and I didn't want a raw dog it on the bed. Yeah, can't have. Free feet pigs are allowed here. Yeah.

Although I don't think my feet are worthy of being paid for, but I do have a great store. Don't do yourself dirty like that. I do have a great tool on wiki feet. Where did it? What is it? It's like an 8.5 or something high. That's a good score.

It's a good score. I got to check it out. Does the two drink limit count on dates out of the resort? Oh, good question. Yes. I would assume so. No, it does.

It does for sure, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it would. Sorry, I was checking the WikiPhee score. I don't mind the, yeah, check your Wikipedee score. I don't mind that they limit the drinks. I think at first it was fun watching like the drunk chaos.

for sure. But after a while it starts being like, all right, everybody's just blackouts, screaming at each other and, like, it starts to feel a little bit. But people did seem kind of drunk in the first episode. That's what I said. But I also think it's such a long day. There's, like, heat exhaustion, dehydration, and then throw, like, a few shots. Well, you could get drunk with two drinks an hour.

For the whole day. And, I mean, I guess if you don't eat a lot. If you do two drinks an hour, like you really do it, you commit to it. For sure. That's like six drinks over a couple hours and they're, you know, they're mixed drinks. Like, or no, I guess, and you could do the back hour, the front hour. Yeah. For sure, you can stock them up.

Update about Wiki feet. The scoring is different from what I remember. It's actually not out of 10. It's out of five stars, and I have almost a full five stars. 33 said beautiful, 17 said nice, seven said okay. Two said bad. Two said ugly. Oh, my God, ugly.

Of course. There's going to be ugly. But I mean, you have, like, a lot of people really like your feet. You have objectively. You have a side business. Nobody in my life has ever said that I had beautiful feet, though. Well, whatever. Whatever.

We're at a word. Let's see. Here they are. No, no. No, they're sweaty right now. You guys say now they're sweating. They're sweaty. Okay, I'm sorry.

Does anybody else get annoyed by the censorship bars? Yes, they're doing this. Yeah. Too much. You know what a butt looks like. And I believe those cost them money. Why don't they ask people then

to not bring like thong bathing suits? Like I feel like that is the, that's been the most this time around. It's impossible these days. It's silly. It is impossible. Like, every bathing. suit is not. But you could throw like jean shorts

or like a little sarong on top. Genevieve clearly had like a thaw and she had a sheer black. I'm noticing a lot of those sarongs. They aren't like in style now so that of course we're seeing more but I think that would just solve the issue all around. You know? Yeah. All right let's see. Let's see. Who's our favorite couple?

Simple question. I don't have a favorite. I really like Andrew and Teddy. I talked about them last week I think and you know, wow. Easy comes to go. I like Sierra. And she's with Michael. I think. So you like them as a couple?

Actually, no, but I like Sierra separately. So that's not. I think honestly? Different questions. Oh, wait. Yeah, I'm sorry. That's not the same. Not the same.

I don't know, though. I mean, you have to go, you have to go Brandon and Sereney. But that's the only solidly couple, and I just said we don't know them that well yet. Exactly. We haven't seen much of them. I, um, who picked, oh, uh,

Jacob, Tarzan, surprisingly picked lace to continue on. I think, do I think that they could, like, be together and get along? Not really. But I also think that they have funny conversations, so I like to watch that. Yeah, like when he was like, you know, I really like, you have a lot of fun with you, I want to keep having fun with you,

and she was like, we need to have some more conversations. When he was trying to be like, oh, I went to Hong Kong and whatever, and he was like, oh, I was just kidding. It's actually like a strip club and Tijuana, like, not the capital of China. And she was like, okay, but I like watching their interaction. Me too, me too. What is the food situation like on the show? There's food.

Like a lot of it. It's kind of like a walk-up counter. You can order fajitas, and they're very delicious. Mexican food. Guys, this was supposed to be questions about the show. Not for Serena and Joe, but I understand. I would be asking them questions too. I'd be able to.

We don't have guests on very often. No, we don't. Are we your first guests on cutting stems? No, we've had Tyler Cameron was a guest once. Yeah, but you guys are better than him. Yeah, he wasn't that great. Nice. But that was it, though, right?

Who else was on? I mean, I stepped up and took a host thing. You're hosting. No, no. You're not even a guest. Yes, you're a host. Right. You guys have participated in the most.

And I think that you did a better job than I would have done. Oh, you were flying at first. Yeah, I was like, let's get through the on. This section was hot. And I was like, let's get this on by 1030. Yeah, yeah, that's always. All right, that wraps up the questions. Should we cut some stems?

Yeah. Oh, he knows it. Let's cut some stems. All right. Give out some roses. We'll give us some roses. Who wants to go first? We should allow our guests to go first.

Yeah. Serena. Are you ready? Are you ready? Are you ready? Do you have choices? Let me think. I could go first. Yeah, they're subpar.

That's good. It's however you feel. Nothing's really screaming to go either way. I'm going to go. Should I take yours? I have two. No, I won't take yours. I'm going to give my rose to Rodney.

You guys discussed this? Yeah, we did pre-discussed. But honestly, I didn't have anything. We were prepared. We were ready for this. I love the preparedness. I don't remember what I said earlier, but I'm going to give my rose to Rodney

just because I enjoy him. I like him. He came down with good energy. I feel bad for him, but what happened with him and Teddy, but I'm excited for him to be on my screen. I'm going to cut Sally's suitcase as my stem. I just didn't enjoy it.

I didn't enjoy any of it, and I just don't think it brought anything to the show. You think Wells is a bad actor. No, no, no. Not the story. Just the suitcase itself, the physical suitcase. I want to stop seeing B-roll of it, too. Yeah.

It's just not funny. It's just not funny. Right, we got it. Her suitcase here, she's not. Where is she? Yeah. Like, it better, like, I wish the best for Sally, but at the same time, the suitcase debacle

better be a big thing when she comes down, or we just watch the suitcase for hours, for nothing. I wanted to go off on everybody for going through it. Like, I want that to happen. Yeah. I'll be like, I sell you motherfuckers went through my suitcase. Now I'm setting this place on fire and stealing my bag. And she's probably like, I want my things.

My skin care's in that bag, you know? Justice for Sally and her suitcase. Yeah. Okay. Yep. I'm going to go. Go ahead. Please.

Go ahead, Joe. I'm going to give my rose to Victoria Fuller for the swoop on Johnny. Yeah. Smart. She had complete control of that situation, and many people try to do that, and many people fail. Yeah, yeah. And it was seamless. It was beautiful.

It was professionally done. Yeah, yeah. Got to really respect that. It's almost like he was waiting for it to happen. Like, it's almost like he was just like, okay, she's here now we're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I'm going to cut, I think I'm going to cut, I'm going to cut Romeo for not understanding that he had a rose

and had power and could have given the rose to anyone but he chose to give it to Jill who told him I will not give you this back that's a good one and a good explanation bad move but I really think he was trying to make amends with Jill with that rose don't you I think that's what he was trying to do

and I just don't think he should have did that because it wasn't going to happen yeah I like it Kelly let me see Mrs. Keegan or Miss Keegan sorry that's her Mrs. Kagan is my muffin. Wasn't your dad's birthday? No, no.

That's not, that's February. My mom's was July. All right. She was posted about somebody's birthday. Sorry. Oh, my grandpa. My grandpa's birthday. Oh, it was yesterday.

Oh, my God. Happy birthday of birthday of my birthday. Sorry, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Happy birthday of him and Grandpa. All right. Love him. Let's see.

Who is my rose to? I'm going to give my rose to Wells. Because he did have to put on that whole performance. And, you know, sometimes you do things. don't want to do. No, he wanted to do that. Oh, he wanted to do it? Yeah, we talked to him. He wanted to do that. He stuck it through and he stuck by it and he's sticking by it still

after the fact. So I'll give him a rose for sticking by his situation. Okay. I'm going to cut the stem also of Romeo but for a different reason. Okay. Controversial. I'm cutting Romeo's stem because he maybe other people

can't see through these crocodile tears. You know, what's happening here? Are we doing construction? I thought it was a sound effect of the I thought of all. Aaron and James Wrains like burst down from the ceiling. Cool-aid man. I thought this was the ending of cutting stamps.

It must be. It must be the end. They probably can. Anyway. Awful. We're ending. We're wrapping. We're about to wrap up.

We brought a, shh, shh, cutting a stem because he, other people might be able to see through these crocodile tears and they're comforting him. That man flitted through four different women in five minutes like it was no big deal.

Him walking up to Haley being like, I feel good about you, and she was like, oh no. Even Haley, who was dying this day. Desperate Haley. She's always. I feel bad. Yeah, we're talking to shit. I'm joking. Everything I said tonight was a joke.

Okay. We're all joking. We're all joking. I do not think Johnny's lips are too small, and James' head fits perfectly on his body. I... What are yours? Yeah. I am going to give my rose to Shinei because...

Oh. I know. I don't know why. Honestly, I just couldn't think of anything. Shanae, I'm giving to because I like her on Paradise. She's good on Paradise. I think that she was the Meryl Streep of Clayton's season, and I think she is doing a great job on Paradise.

And I am going to cut the stem of... Who pissed you off tonight? Logan's face? Yeah, Logan's face. And it's so mean, Ria. Stop. Stop thinking of faces. I know.

It's honestly so not nice because people are so mean to me and it's upsetting. I think it's your thing, though. You shouldn't have an issue with faces and head. The thing is, I'm not calling them ugly. You just don't trust the face. Yes, that's what it is. I want that to be clear. I wonder if that's a thing.

If that's like not trusting faces. Right. Like, it's like I'm not, I just want that to be clear. Like, I'm not making fun of their looks. It's just that I think Logan's hiding something. But I'm not going to cut his stem because that would be way too controversial at this point. At this point, you've already gone to a lot tonight. I'm going to cut

I would do whoever is doing the pipes. Yeah, I'm clearly struggling right now I'm cutting a stem. Frick, Fran and Trent I'm cutting their stems for not being here. Sorry. Yeah. Oh, can I know how I feel about that? Why? Why? It should be a A rose. We're the replacement. You're like, you have to give out

two more roses or two roses. Okay, so I'll give my rose. Yes. Yes. I'll give my rose to you guys and I'll cut their step. Okay. Cut my Chenet one. She doesn't deserve it. Sorry, Sheney. She has more chances this season. Yes. Yes, she does. And maybe they don't. So give my rose to them and cut Fran and try.

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I know. I've done a live show with you guys. I was in the porn house in Los Angeles. Yeah, that place was all. Awesome. They definitely filmed like a lot of Brazzers videos there. Yeah. So yeah.

But it's cool to be in the barstool area. The Zoom that you always forget about. And the Zoom and your now wife was here a few months ago. Yes. That was very cool. So I feel like we're really connecting. You know, Johnny Bananas was just here. I know.

And you guys are buddies. He was apparently invited to your wedding. I'm like, we may have seen you more times this year than Johnny Banana's. And you know what? You probably would have come to my wedding. We would have. We would have made the time when we told Johnny you were here. He was like, oh, Wells.

And then, like, said you guys knew each other or whatever. I thought it was just like one of those classic. Like, yeah, we know each other in passing. Johnny did like, I'm not son of a bitch. And I was like, all right. Yeah, Johnny, you know everybody. And then you guys, though. And then you guys were like, yo.

And you were like, you didn't come to my wedding. I was like, wait a second. He actually was invited. That wasn't a joke. And no, Johnny was invited and he didn't go. So that's fucked up. We would have been there. We weren't invited.

It's okay, though. I mean, I get it. Beautiful. He's a busy boy. He is busy. By the way, the huge challenge fan. Yeah. Are you?

And I was watching in the green room and I'm with you. Like, who does he not like that you like? Oh, Devin. I love Devin. I love Devin. He's such a great asshole. He is so funny. But he's so funny.

He was great on Are You the One, which is when I originally started to like him. But he's good because he like, there's so much, there's so much just force, like male. Your G of like, I'm, me strong, like, on the challenge of, like, these guys. And he, I like, he plays more of a psychological game. And I like that because you need that. He's an intellectual. He's an intellectual.

He's like, I'm strong and I'll beat you in any challenge. Like, Vessie. Yes. It's like, oh, anybody want a peanut? He's under the child. Yeah. Yeah, like, they're just focused on, like, taking people down the hall brawl and, like, that's, then they can't play the other side of it.

Is the challenge up there with one of your favorite reality shows or, like, what's your favorite reality show? So I wasn't, I wasn't a fan of the show until I did the cooking show at Johnny. Yeah. He was showing me all these clips and I was like, I remember watching like real world road rules challenge, but like I kind of fell off. And then Sarah and I started watching it was maybe like four seasons ago and we were like, oh my God, this is it. Like we got into it. Yeah. And so, and I know he's doing it with like a bunch of like big names.

Yeah. You know? So it's up there. It's up there with like in the top five. shows. It was my favorite for a while. I watched all the old. The older seasons are really fucking good. Like when we talked about it with him just like before social media, it was a big thing. Like, everything was just so raw. And like they would get into some crazy fights, but it was so good. And then obviously they bring new people in, but I'm actually very invested in this season because

I like when they bring the old cast members in. But a lot has happened with you. You have your new show on Hulu right now, Best in Doe. We talked about this. The last time when we were in L.A. And you were really excited for it to come out. You were teasing it a little bit. Now, how do you feel that it's out? I'm, like, really proud of it. And I'm super critical of, like, anything I ever do on television.

And it's just such a, like, a nice, fun, funny show. It's like, it's not going to change the world. And, like, you know, not going to cure, you know, world hunger or anything. But it's, it's really good. And it's fun. And my only complaint about it is that And I hosted the show But every time I watch an episode

I'm like fuck I want I want some pizza And that's like the one thing I get They're like the show is great But like it just makes me want to order pizza Yeah Which isn't necessarily a bad thing No it's not I'm not gonna lie I saw the preview for it

And thought the same exact thing I know I was like should I make pizza tonight Like not even order like I'm gonna go get dough And make my own Yeah yeah well and Because you learn how to do all the stuff right like and so like yeah by episode like four or five you're like I can I can do this yeah proof my dough you know I can get a pizza stone from the oven and yeah and so yeah anyways it's

it's such a like just a positive cooking show like there's a lot of those where like the judges are mean yeah and you know like they really kind of put down the cooks which is a real thing in the service industry I used to be a real bartender and a waiter and stuff I remember hearing like head chefs just like berate everybody. And Daniele, who's the head judge and the owner of Pizana and kind of came up with this whole idea is like the nicest little Italian man from Napoli. Yeah.

So yeah, it's a really good show. I hope that it gets second season because we filmed 10 episodes in 10 days. It was like the most rapid fire. How much pizza did you eat? So much. In 10 days. And I weighed myself. Here's the crazy thing.

I weighed myself beforehand. Yeah. And then afterwards, thinking surely I'll gain like 20 pounds. Yeah. And I lost weight. Wow. Is it because of the fresh ingredients? Yes.

I think it was. Like it's, we weren't, had like dominoes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You know, it was all like really good ingredients and stuff. So it's really interesting. But yeah, it's on Hulu. All 10 episodes are out right now.

I love Hulu. Can I just say that? And that's not because. We're kind of killing it right. They are. They are. you brought a Rulu rep with you. Like, I genuinely think that Hulu is at the top right now.

They are. And I was a Hulu over Netflix person for quite some time, like years ago. It was like a hot take when she said it a few years ago. And people were like, what? Okay, Rhea. Like, you like, that's weird. And now I think a lot of people are coming around. Because Hulu has some great original shows.

I agree. Yeah, they're coming out with some really good stuff. This show kind of reminds me, and I know you said, like, it has that nice, like, just like wholesome energy. Like it kind of has, it's obviously different, but like, uh,

great British baking show type energy where it's like, let's just make good food and have fun and eat it and like have funny contestants and jokes. Like I know you guys, because you have, the contestants are all different types of people. It's like people who actually make pizza, people who don't old Italian grandmothers.

Yeah. Which is very funny. They were the first episode and they're freaking hilarious. Yeah. I remember when we were doing that episode, I was like, either this is going to be the best TV we've ever made or this is going to completely go off the rails. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Luckily, it was the former not the left. Well, it's hard to keep a nona, like on.

Oh, yeah. It's hard to keep her, like, on schedule slash, like, on doing what she's supposed to do. How did they find the contestants? I'm sure they did the casting call. But, like, there is no shortage of people who make pizzas out there. It's more of, like, you know, putting it all together. Like, we have one where it's like college kids. So it's, like, finding those kids that are, like, into that.

And then, you know. My mom could have been. on the show. She loves. She makes... Season two, baby. She makes pizzas. And every summer, I bought her a pizza, a little pizza oven. Maybe we can do, like, mom and daughter versus mom and daughter. That would be fine. We do an episode with moms and daughters. Oh, really? Okay, so we'll think of something else for season two.

Season two, think of us. Maybe you give it. Just podcast hosts. Yeah, yeah. How about that? Podcast host and their moms. Yeah. Yeah. And they're going up against Dax Sheppard and Justin Long. Yeah. And their moms. That is very funny. But what do, what's What's your favorite style of pizza? Well, I will say like New York style is my favorite, and I'm not saying that because my wife would kill me if I didn't say that. But I do, I like I'm not a Chicago deep dish guy. To me, that's lasagna.

You know, it's like a, it's just so much bread. Yeah. So yeah, I do like a kind of a greasy. Just like a regular slice. York sliced, like, bleaker street pizza is bomb over here. But I tell you what, if you guys come out to Los Angeles, go to Danielleie's place called Pizza on it. It's really, really good.

And it's just very, like, traditional. We've never found a good place at pizza when we're in L.A. That's like the one food we never have when we're out there. Right. We're like, what do we eat? Not pizza. Yeah, yeah. We'll eat anything about that.

Are you loving saying my wife? It's weird. It's for sure weird. And also, like, having a. Yeah. I noticed. Having a ring on is a weird thing. Do you play with it?

Yes, I can't stop. Yeah, I know. One of my, um, one of my friends got married recently, like recently, as in like last week. But as soon as he put the ring on, he was just like fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, fiddle, like. And he just was like, guys, look at this. That's a great band. Classic. Yeah.

Like, to the point. Uh, I'm hating the rubber. Well, they, yeah, there's a lot of trendy, trendy male styles these days. Or like the black. bands like I'm not into that. Like the platinum ones like the like the ones that look like steel. Yeah or yeah or there's like black rubber or just like that's like that's for athletic purposes. Yes. Well and so I think like you know Jimmy Fallen fell and like his ring caught the side of the desk and almost ripped his finger off. Yes. Yes. And so those rubber ones. So now I sound like an asshole. No. I agree with I don't love the black ones. Yeah. But yeah they like break away if that were to happen. Okay. But yeah I'm always like doing this. And like, it's a really nice ring and it's so scratched up already. We're like a month in.

Yeah, well. Yeah. Love it. How was the wedding? Go ahead. It was great. It was, it was so much fun. But it was one of those things where, like, while it was happening, Sarah and I were like,

man, I wish we were fucking invited to this thing. It looks like so much fun. Yeah. But that's the exact wedding you want to throw. Like, that's the wedding you want to have everyone. And you want your wedding to be like that. You're like, shit, I want to be a guest at this wedding. And you know the guests had a great time.

Oh, they did. The pictures were insane. They were beautiful. The after party, like, it got weird real fast. I remember looking around and, like, people just, like, turned into, like, Velocel raptors. Creatures. And I was like, oh, my God.

Like, shit's gone fucking sideways over here. They found the drugs. Yeah. Oh, man. That's something. But no, it was beautiful. The only thing that sucks is, like, I know that, like, in hindsight, I will be so grateful for the pictures.

But the pictures thing eats so much of your day. And it's like- You guys did Vogue, right? Yeah. So in a situation like that, you know, Vogue's photographing your wedding. Are they telling you, like, we need pictures here, here, here? Or is it just, are they more of like a, you don't even know they're there type of. Vogue is funny.

So I didn't really, this was all Sarah's thing, you know. But they very much wanted to know who her designers were. Right. How many wardrobe changes, you know, like what the dresses looked like, what I was wearing. Yeah. It had to meet a Vogue standard. Yeah. Which I thought was great.

Her dresses were stunning also. Yeah. Very Vogue worthy. And there was another wardrobe change that like didn't make the cut. Wow. At the last second, it didn't happen. There was almost be another one. Did you make it to your cocktail hour?

Yeah. Like you were able to eat the food there. So this is what we did. We had the ceremony and then we walked over. We had a cocktail hour. And so we walked over, saw people for a second. Then we had to go back and take pictures. And then everyone walked through the kind of estate.

And then we had the dinner, which was great. And like a lot of dancing. and then then we went to the after party after that but we also had a cocktail and that rehearsal dinner looked stunning too

we guys or whatever like welcome I'm just thinking of the pictures in my mind it was like in like a cave or something right like a wine cellar so we got married this place called Sunstone winery

which is in like Santinez or Solvang which is its beautiful beautiful piece of property it's actually where Jordan and Jojo got married it's fun full circle

yeah I know Exactly. What is a beautiful full circle moment. So, yeah, we had the rehearsal dinner in like the wine tasting cake that they've got there, which is super cool. And then when we came out, then everyone that was invited was there at the welcome party. And I, and I will admit when I'm wrong, I was like, we don't need to have a welcome party for everyone. I was like, this is getting expensive. Like, we don't need this.

And it was the best decision we made because, you know, I have like all my friends from Nashville, all my college friends, all my high school friends, people from The Bachelor, people from other television shows that worked, and then stairs the same way. It's like Broadway, modern family, you know, L.A. And so that welcome party, everyone got

turned up and like met everyone that night. And then like went out, like we had them take the vans to like the bar and everyone was getting videos of like everyone just trashed at bars and sold them. Then when everyone gets to like the reception, everybody's friends are

So that the wedding happened and everyone knew everybody. Yeah. Yeah. And they're excited to be with those people. They're like, oh, we had a great night last night. Yeah. Did you end up meeting people that you had never met before at your wedding or did you kind of know everyone that was there?

We tried to make the rule that we weren't going to meet anyone for the first time in our wedding. There were a few like in terms of like cousins or like aunts that like are just not around. Plus ones or whatever. But for the most part, we knew everybody. And it's, everyone says this. It's tough. Like you, you spend too much time with people you don't need to spend too much time with. And you don't spend enough time with people that you want to.

Yeah. Because the people that you want to are like, I'm going to leave them alone. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the people that you never see who you're like, you know, whatever, they're like, we got to take a picture. Come here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But looking back, it was, it was awesome.

Yeah. Yeah, but I'm never getting married again because it's very expensive. That's a good and hard rule. I bet. That's a good rule. Is the Bachelor, I feel like every big, big, big, like, batch wedding that a lot of Bachelor people are at,

there's always, like, a big Bachelor photo. Yeah, we did it. Is that, is, I feel like that's a must for every, for every, and how's that going down? Like, is everyone like, all right, it's Bachelor photo time. Yeah. I love that. That's like, it's just like if you go to a wedding

where the photographer's like, all right, guys, if you went to X college with the bride and groom, everyone had to the dance for a picture. shirts. Like if you were on The Bachelor, gather up. Yeah. Yeah, I think it was Sarah's PR person was like, we need this picture for Vogue or whatnot. So we did a modern family one, then we did a Bachelor one. Yeah. So yeah. It's amazing. And now you're back on the beach as well. Paradise has started again. Did you watch tonight's episode? Oh, no. We have not where we have we have we watched live. We don't, we don't get, we don't get screeners. We

don't we don't get that treatment. So unfortunately when this airs, when this airs people will have seen it all and we'll be talking about it. But Separately from this. This bums me out. I wish I had known, I would have sent you the screen. Damn it. Oh, fuck. That actually would have helped us.

Yeah, would have been huge. The two nights is hard. I know. But tonight's episode is like my biggest episode for sure. Can you give us like a hint? Because now, this will be, you can tell you what happens. You could just tell us. Because when this comes out, everyone will watch it.

So it was, it's the dumbest. It's the best TV I've ever made. And it's the dumbest thing I've ever done. I love it. All in the same thing. I love it because I feel like the last time we talked, you were like, you know, we do so many. funny bits for that show and so much of it

gets cut. True. And I thought for sure this was going to get cut. It was so dumb. But like, so Sally is supposed to come to Paradise and like... Who the heck is Sally? She was the one who was like engaged right on the one that

literally went home the... Within 10 minutes. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So Sally was supposed to come to the show. And like what ended up happening was that Sally was like kind of like wishy-washy. of whether she was going to come. So we sent a producer to her house to be like,

let's pack up, let's go. Because she kept missing flights. That's wild. Suspicious. So this crazy story happens where the producer is like trying to get her to come to paradise and like gets her to the airport and like gets her bag through security. And it's like on the plane. They're like about to get on the plane.

and she like gets cold feet and like it's like I can't do it I can't come to paradise okay okay but her bag went to Mexico right so and you know we send a PA and a handler to go get everyone yeah you know there was some PA was like well the luggage is here like where is she sounds like they could have put out a Trent yeah a bat call bat signal yeah yeah um and so the suitcase goes to paradise and, you know, all the Bachelor suitcases have the names on it. Trent knows this, I'm sure.

Yes. He knows about those sequesters. They kind of do it like Love Island now. Yeah, yeah. So the cast finds the suitcase and is like, what is going on? So they come to me and they're like, tell us what the hell is happening.

Because they go through the suitcase and they find all this weird shit. And so then... Oh, is that the vibrator? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and there's like a waffle maker and hair extensions and all this stuff. So then they come to me and they're like, what is this? And then I do my first, hopefully not last.

Because I filmed like four or five of the well story time hours where like I gather everyone around like, let me tell you a story. Yeah. And so I tell this crazy story, but we don't have any footage of this happening, right? Okay. So we went back and recreated this entire thing. Oh, boy. me and this sound guy named Davo.

Daveo played Sally. So we got him in a wig. That's amazing. And then I played the producer and like the gate agent. Yeah. And like the, you know, this is a full sketch. Oh, it's like drunk history.

This is like a full bit. But that's amazing because I feel like that's probably what like gets you excited when you're like, oh, like, we could do this. And then you're all excited to film something different than you standing behind the bar and like talking to the people on the show. It's like you kind of, you get to. to be creative. Well, and funny.

Yeah, so here's the thing. Like, so the puppets thing was like such a popular thing that we did years ago, but like the heads of everything hated it because it made the show seem slapstick.

Yeah. But I was like, the show is slapstick, but whatever. Have you seen the intros? Yeah, I mean, we lit, the show opened with a girl sitting on a toilet. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So what are we talking about? Like, she was straight up sitting on a toilet. Which is great. Yes, exactly. So lean into it at this point. Like, just lean into it. Yeah, so they wanted to figure out a way to, like, be able to do that, but, like, not be so hokey.

And which is hilarious because I'm like, this is costing so much more for us to, like, recreate all of this stuff. But anyways, it's really, really funny. It's like the funniest thing we've ever done. I'm excited. That's amazing. And so this girl is just no. No Bachelor shows for her, Sally. Well, it's hilarious.

Like, she's gotten more screen time for never ever being on the show. Yeah. It's pretty impressive to get cold feet that many times. It's amazing. She back with her ex again? We got to watch and see. But like we do get her out there. Okay.

And I can say that because in like the Super T's, you see her being like, I made it. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. So, all right, she's back. Well, how did you feel about this cast of characters on the beach this season? Was it exciting? I never know what to expect.

Did you know Lace already? Yeah, I did season three with her as like a cast member. Right. And she was there with, she was like coupled up with Grant and they were like wasted the entire time. And have the rules changed since season three? Drinking wise? I think they have. They have, but they've gotten better.

Isn't it like two drinks, but then people time it so that they do like one at the end and one at the beginning? See, no. Yeah, if you're like a, if you're a lightweight or not even, but like if you take a shot at eight, 59 and a shot at 902. Like, you're going to be feeling tipsy for the next 45 minutes until it's time to take another shot. Yeah, that's going to hold me over. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be on the shot regimen. Yeah, I think that's probably the best, the best way to go about it.

It has felt like they were leaning into the humor a little bit more just from the first episode that we watched. Like, it just, it felt a little more. Like, the intros were funnier. Yeah. It might be sillier. I think it's a byproduct of they bought 17 more hours like six extra episodes so now we have so much more time to fill. Really?

And so a lot of like This season so quick. Well, we're only in the second episode. I know, but I guess it's... Well, I guess it's two times a week. Yeah. So we still have like eight more episodes. Yeah.

Plus maybe. Yeah. Definitely. November 1st is our time. Oh, actually, right. It's October 3rd. November comes right after October. Yes, it does.

Yes, it does. I do like, I mean, I love getting paradise at this time of year. I know people like to watch in the summer, but I feel like it's interesting. I feel like it's always on this time of year, though. It's a little earlier. Like a little earlier? It used to be in September.

It used to be in September. Yeah. Okay. September or October. It used to be August September, so it felt like a summer show. But it's fine. It is what it is. I don't love the fact that we have to go up against Monday Night Football.

Yeah. You know, like make people make a decision there. Right. Now that's on Hulu. Everybody's got two screens. Yeah. And now that's on Hulu, everyone can go watch the next day. Yeah.

That's fine, you know. That's the beautiful marriage between ABC and Hulu and Disney. Disney, man. How do they know, because obviously they know everybody who's watching live, where does that factor into like the viewership when people watch the next day on Hulu? I don't know if you know the Sandser. Yeah, I don't really know, like, the Nielsen rating stuff. Like, I know that everyone is really pushing streamers because the analytics are so much easier to

track than Nielsen ratings and stuff. And then you also have to deal with like people who are watching in like real time and then people who have DVR'd stuff. Right. So there's also so many like I when I'm home, I don't have cable. I have YouTube TV. So like when I watch, I'm watching live, but I'm watching on YouTube TV. So it's all, it's all different now.

Yeah. But you can all stream on Hulu. Yeah. You can watch Best in Delle. You can watch Bachelor in Paradise. You can watch all the other shows that Ria loves on you. I love Hulu.

I really do. And Wells, people do not pay me to say this. I genuinely love Hulu. We love Hulu. But Wells, thank you so much for coming to chat with us. Thank you. Great.

We're excited. Everybody can watch Best and Doe. Like I just said, it's all on Hulu now. And Paradise, we'll be tuning in. It's a good season. We did get a, we got a funny, we got a funny question doing cutting stems last week,

our live show that we do after the show. And we take questions at the end and somebody asked, do you think Wells would have taken the hosting job if he was asked? And we were like, obviously. Yeah. I asked for that. We're like not to speak for him, but pretty sure yes. And that is something we've answered so many times in this show.

Yeah, I mean, hello. One day. I've gotten, I see a lot of times where people are like, he turned, sorry, he turned it down. Yeah. I'm like, what? Yeah. I turned down the easiest job in the world. Let's end that narrative.

End that narrative. No, he did not turn it down. He's still open to it. I will say this, though, if, like, Jesse does, like, ever step away, which I think he's doing great job. Yeah. And they were, like, we want you to host a show. I would be, like, okay, but I still need to bartend. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You want to do both. Well, it's... I mean, like, it's great to do, like, a rose ceremony and stuff or, like, be at the top of the stairs and, like, welcome people in. But, like, I, like, am ingrained in. the show, you know? Yeah. Like, there's stakes for me.

They have to be able to talk to you all the people too, I feel like. Like, sometimes you can't really talk to the host in all those, in those scenarios. Like, I don't think people are like, oh, I had a great conversation with Jesse on the beach, like, about what was going on in my relationship. Yeah. But with you. Well, and, like, the relationships are real for me, you know, like, and you'll see, like, this season, like, I, every season I always take a couple people, like, under my wing and, like, make sure that they're good. and like, yeah, there's stakes for me. And so if that were gone, that would be a bummer.

Yeah, yeah. It would have to be both. Yeah. We'll workshop it. There's definitely a hybrid role there that they can come up with. We've been saying it. Yeah, well, our names are at the top of the petition every year. Yeah, every time.

One day. Well, thank you. We love you. We appreciate you coming in and talking to us. And hopefully we get to chat again soon. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for having it. All right.

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