Chicks in the Office - Bonus Memorial Day Episode (ft. Craig Conover + Nat & Liv)

Episode Date: May 27, 2019

Watch/Subscribe to our brand new Snapchat show: (http://bit.ly/thegroupchat). CITO Summer Merch: (http://bit.ly/citomerch). Interview with Craig Conover from Bravo's 'Southern Charm' – talking livi...ng in The Bahamas, pillow business, Madison and Austen's relationship and his dating life (5:55-30:03). Interview with Natalie Halcro & Olivia Pierson from E!'s new show 'Relatively Nat & Liv' – talking their new reality show, their family being the real stars, Vancouver vs. LA and being friends with the Kardashians  (31:47-51:29). Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran. We're giving you that Friday energy on a Monday, some extra Friday energy because it is Memorial Day. Hopefully you're having a fantastic weekend. Hopefully you're on the beach.
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Starting point is 00:02:55 We have an interview with Craig from Southern Charm. Fantastic. We love the Southern Charm boys. We love them. It's like you never know what you're going to expect when they walk in here. Because they are, they fit the name. They are very charming. Yes, very true.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Every time I want them, they leave. I'm like, come back. Yeah, I'm like, let's hang out. Let's go out. Just a little warning. We had some problems with the audio. There was a little bit of a fuck up. So we tried to fix it.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Hopefully it works. Then we have an interview with Nat and Live. You know, big social media stars, Natalie Halkrow, Olivia Pearson. They have a new show on E, relatively Nat and Live. So we talked a little bit about that. We talked about the relationships with the Kardashians. So it's a great show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 We kept it short this Monday because like we said, it's Memorial Day. We hope that you're out there doing great things. It's a day. Hopefully the weather's nice. It's a day to be outside. But, you know, just sneak this listen in before you do anything. Yeah, listen to the interviews and then get your day started. Exactly.
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Starting point is 00:05:39 How you doing? Good. Thanks for having girls. My voice is a little gone. Yeah. That's okay. Why is it gone? A little partying?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah, I mean, it's now been on like four weeks, I think, because I think you're supposed to rest for five days in a row. And that hasn't really happened. And just got back from Costa Rica for four days, which did not help it at all. That doesn't help. And flying. I always lose my voice post flying. Should I just blame it on that? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I'm giving you a real. I'm giving you a really. I'm giving you a really. I lose my... It's not flying. I'm right in here at the boat with you. Like if I, if I, like, I'll have one weekend going out Friday, going out Saturday night, don't get enough sleep.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Sunday, I can't speak at all. Like, Fran was more hungover than she is now. She would sound like you. Okay, cool. During the NFL season, Sundays would get added on to that for games and then Monday morning I'd come in and real. I was like, you can't talk. That talking is your job.
Starting point is 00:06:30 It's like I'm doing a show with a different person because it's just a totally different voice. Yeah, that part of the year is really tough. Yeah. When you're still drinking on Sundays and everything. Yeah, I showed up and she's like, well, you know you have a full day at press. And then you have to do Watch What Happens. And I was like, well, we'll see what happens. So you did Watch What Happens Live was you did last night.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yes, with our very own Ramona. It was, it was great. Do you love doing Watcher Happens Live? Yeah, that's one of the best parts of the job is getting to go hang out with Andy. And watch what happens is always fun. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Did you guys watch it?
Starting point is 00:07:03 I saw some of the clips, yeah. Was it okay? I liked it. I liked it. It was good stuff because you have Ramona in the mix. Rona is always very entertaining. I thought it was, I thought it was tame for what it could have been,
Starting point is 00:07:15 but that's what they were apparently rooting for. So they were like hoping it didn't get too crazy. Really? I feel like as a viewer. I wanted to get crazy. Well, I know. And I thought it was going to get a little louder, but I could tell by like the faces
Starting point is 00:07:27 and like even after they were so happy because they were like, no, like we contained it. It was fun and fun. Well, maybe like Ramona's a little bit of a lot. mild card so they didn't know what they were going. It could have gone all over the place. Exactly. It was fine.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And she only, I think we kept her. She only said the F word once and which was like a new record. Great. It was great. What was your record? So I cost more than anyone I know usually, but for some reason I'm able to like not do it when I'm on like when I'm live. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:57 You're allowed to do it here. We have a huge problem where we do a Snapchat show now every day and you can't curse on Snapchat. We have to redo so much. We can't say that. We can do it in the podcast. We can do it on radio and we can do it on Instagram. This is the only thing we can do it.
Starting point is 00:08:15 We have a problem. Yeah, I'm not used to being able to, so that's cool. Yeah. That's good. Yeah, it was fun. But, I mean, you just get hammered and go plays games. It's really the smartest move that they do. Like, Andy, just get everybody a little drunk.
Starting point is 00:08:31 It makes everybody open up more. Can you guys drink here? Because my stuff yesterday, I was like, and I asked the person with me, I was like, Amanda, why can't I drink? This is the only part of the job that I'm not drinking. Yeah. Like, every other part of this job, I'm hammered the whole time. There's really no rules in this place.
Starting point is 00:08:48 We've had, we've done it before. You could do. For normally end of the week, it's more okay. Like, they'll open a bottle of wine while they're on radio, stuff like that. Yeah. You know what? Next time, we'll get you drinks. Yeah, we'll make sure we have this time.
Starting point is 00:09:03 We'll make sure we have some beers or something. Do you feel like Andy? Andy is very good at getting information out of people that people usually wouldn't say. I think he's the best. And I'll tell people like meeting him, you will not be disappointed at all. You literally look into his eyes and you want to tell him everything that's ever happened to you. Here are all my secrets. Honestly, that's how it is.
Starting point is 00:09:24 And you see people all the time. It's a weird example. But like Paris last week was like, I heard her the next day on the radio. And she's like, yeah, I kind of really wish I didn't tell Andy the thing about. Lindsay Lohan, he's just so easy to talk to. We talked about that too. We were like, Andy just knows how to get people. Austin, like the first reunion in Austin did.
Starting point is 00:09:44 He was like nervous wreck on the stage. I was like, dude, I know it's hard to believe. But trust me, when Andy starts talking to you, everything goes away. And then like in the first break, he's like, dude, that's totally what happened. He was like, so he's great. You watch it every time. And I feel like you just, I mean, we've obviously never been on the show. But I feel like once you step on, you forget there's cameras around.
Starting point is 00:10:03 and you just feel like you're maybe like in the therapist office with Andy. Oh, yeah, really is. Like one-on-one. So you guys have never been? You should come next time. I've been to the show, seeing the taping, but we're trying to get on as bartenders. I've never been. Oh, that would be cool.
Starting point is 00:10:15 We want to do it so bad. It's, it's right. Our time will come. Our time will come. I have fate eventually. Yeah, that's not too crazy. Yes. No.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Crossing our fingers. Yes. So, Southern Charm. New season, season six, just premiered last week. We had a new episode last night. So we're two episodes in. Can you, are you shocked by how amazing everybody, like, loves the show? You have made it six seasons now.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah, I mean, that's pretty wild, honestly. Yeah, it's a long time. We didn't even think it was a real thing when it started. We were like, whatever. We'll come to the, like, you know, it just kind of, it's kind of happened. And then, yeah, here we are six years later. I just don't understand how stuff keeps happening because every year, you're like, there's no way in hell, like, that anything crazier than this can happen.
Starting point is 00:11:02 I mean, who the, like, no one's ever called someone, like an egg donor. It's like, you're not the real mom, you're just an egg donor. Like, that's nuts. That was crazy. And then somehow, I was hiding behind the car because I already taking my mic off because I was like, fuck you're going out of here. That's amazing. You can just be like, oh, my mic's already gone by.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah, I was like, holy shit, this is insane. Yeah. But then this year, it gets even crazier. So every year, well, and then, you know, like, people are getting pregnant all the time. I mean, those were easy years. People are popping out babies left and right. And Catherine just kept getting pregnant. That made our lives a lot easier.
Starting point is 00:11:35 But this year is pretty wild, honestly. And the stuff that happens, I'm like, you can't make this shit up. It's just insane. Yeah, I feel like a lot of people, a lot of times with reality TV, they're like, oh, the producers are behind the scenes saying to say this, say that. But with you guys, it's real all the time. Yeah, it's pretty raw. Like, I mean, they just found a bunch of crazy people.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yeah. And it's, and Charleston's such a small place. Like, I don't know. It's kind of like college or anything. drama but there's something that happens at the end of the season at our cash trip we get a steamboat and we're about to leave the house and we have like 500s left and like laying on the couch and all the suitcases are at the door and something happens I'm not going to say what I'm just saying cover your ears yes yes our bravo rep giving you the stick guy like Craig you've been good
Starting point is 00:12:28 of the last time let it all out now something happens and And I'm just dying laughing and like everyone comes from back in. And it's like you could. I mean, it was five minutes left before we're on the bus. And just shit hits the fan. And that was fun because it wasn't me. And one of the producers were like, Greg, stop laughing. Stop laughing.
Starting point is 00:12:48 And I was like, I can't. I don't know what to tell you. Like, this is amazing. Yeah. Those are the best moments. Something to look forward to. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 00:12:56 We're trying to be the next. Andy. Just tell us everything. We'll see you. Good start. Yeah. Definitely. So you've opened this season.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Cameron said that you got your groove back. The Bahamas did you very well. Did you expect to be in the Bahamas for as long as you stayed? No, not at first. Well, when I first, so Whitney's like doing a show in Bimni, and I went to visit him and help him with like casting. And I was like, oh, there's like a really cool place that I'd gone to a wedding at. It's not too far away.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So I flew over. I called my buddies. And actually it's my Like my manager in a hair It was her and her husband And I like flew over there And after being there for like a week I was like dude I don't think I really want to leave
Starting point is 00:13:40 And I didn't have to be back to the States till September And I was like fucking So I flew home and got two of like the biggest suitcases In Walmart I could find Because it was like midnight And just packed both of them and just flew back And I was like all right I guess I'm going to be here for a little bit
Starting point is 00:13:56 That is insane That is my dream That's my dream That's my dream All the time I'm always like Why don't people just take off if they have if they have it Just go to the Bahamas or something That's what I mean I said
Starting point is 00:14:06 Literally what he did Yeah that's what you did It's like a dream But I watch it all the time Like I have a like two bedroom two bath I have basically had an extra bedroom Extra bathroom that sat empty for like three months Because my friends even on the East Coast
Starting point is 00:14:19 Like just won't it come I'm like they're like Craig We can't just go to the Bahamas It's like but you can Like just go get on the plane And fly down here And everything else is taking care of But like I don't know that
Starting point is 00:14:29 People have this like, I don't know, just this block where they're like, yeah, but you can't just do that. I'm like, but you can't. You can't do that. Yeah. And I know, like, you know, fortunate situation with timing. But yeah, I just said, fuck it and went. And I don't know. It's just healthier down there.
Starting point is 00:14:44 And I actually spend less money down there than I don't do. Really? That makes sense. Charleston's very expensive. What was it like day to day in the Bahamas? So it's awesome. Instead of seeing the sunrise because you're still up, you actually wake up with the sunrise. and then you go down
Starting point is 00:15:00 like you're only in board shorts or bathing suit at all times because you have tabs everywhere and you just pay it before you leave the island and then I would drive like five minutes down to the jib room which is our like little marina and the bartender were making a drink and then you hop on the boat my friend has like a 30 foot contender down there and then you just went bar hopping on the boat all day
Starting point is 00:15:20 we go spearfishing and like blasts. Life I just sounds so big. We have this song that we play like right when we get on the boat And then you're like, all right, let's do it. And then you just go on adventures and stuff. And people are always visiting for like those guys. I'm, you guys, honestly, like, someone should come down and visit. Because I'm like, someone come, like, see, like, it's really cool.
Starting point is 00:15:42 Hey, Greg, if you're going to invite us to the Bahamas, the Bahamas, we'll do a video series. Go to the Bahamas, whole big thing. Bahamas and Craig. So good. That sounds fantastic. Are you going back this summer? Yes. Well, I have, I still have the place.
Starting point is 00:15:57 So my roommate was calling me a slum lord because we had water damage. So I'm like spending some time in Charleston. But I'll go back June 2nd and then I'll probably be there until the end of July. So you guys hop on a plane. You're getting some more time in for sure. That's awesome. I think we got to go to the Baham. I know.
Starting point is 00:16:16 It's like I'm locked in. A boat every day, bar hopping. Oh, and the airport's like six minutes from my house. And there's no laws. So there's no rules. So there's no cops on the island. So there's no authority. So it's like the only rules don't be.
Starting point is 00:16:27 an asshole and like don't die. Yeah. So like you just, you literally when you fly and you get picked up and you get handed a drink and you go down and get on the boat and yeah it's fun. Wow, that's the life. That is the life. I'm pointing at the screen because it went black and you want to fix that long. No, it's just not making
Starting point is 00:16:43 attention. Um, well honestly, I'm very jealous because you're going back soon. That's like two weeks now and you'll be gone the whole summer and I might cry right now because that sounds like the best time ever. What's the what's the lawyer situation like right now?
Starting point is 00:16:59 So I'm, I am an active attorney, fortunately, so I don't have to be screened that on the street every day. Did you take the bar? Yeah, it's like, leave me alone. Okay, so that's good. Yeah, I'm not going to practice for money while on TV. So we have a great clinic in Charleston. We have basically crisis ministries,
Starting point is 00:17:21 I guess 90% of our, like, oh, most people are veterans, which I don't think should be, like, I don't think that word should exist in general. And so they've expressed, they basically said, you know, if I'd like to start working with them, I can. So I'm going to be going back and forth. I'll probably do two weeks on two weeks off, honestly, because I want to get more active and stuff like that. Yeah. So that would be cool because then I'd get hours in the courtroom and I'd be able to help people out with just, you know, the goal anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:48 So it's a lot healthier situation than it used to be. Right, right. And then you also have the pillow coming. Yeah, where did the pillows come in? Well, that's, yeah, that actually, I brought you guys some shirts. Oh, oh, awesome. Yeah, no, fortunately, it's finally a real thing, you know, after years of talking about it and wasting this platform that we have. Because even on the show, I don't know if it was the first episode or last night, you're like, we can only make 10 pillows to leave that.
Starting point is 00:18:13 And I'm like, oh, no, that's, that can be good. Yeah, I'm going to hard. So, well, that's what you get to see is kind of like the development of me kind of letting go of control. and, you know, the process of going from him and making the pillows, or the process of it just being me and, like, my helper to, like, actually bringing in help. And so now, yeah, we launched on April 1st, and it's doing really well. So, um, that's so exciting.
Starting point is 00:18:39 How did you get into that? I don't know. I do weird stuff. Like, so it asked yesterday. So, let's just wait a hobby. Can you just start sewing one day? You're like, this is fun. Yeah, well, no, we got, we still had home back in school.
Starting point is 00:18:49 So in eighth grade, we spent half the year cooking and then half the year sewing, which was really cool. And you were good. Like where people were in high school like what the fuck? Were your friends like Craig Wires? So and so much. I'm sure if Shep was in my class. You would have been not very nice about it.
Starting point is 00:19:09 So then, no, I wasn't cool to like freshman year of college or senior year high school. What does that mean cool? Well, like I got bullied until like the end of high school. You got bullied in high school? But I didn't look like, yeah, definitely. But if like I think, if. It's crazy because it stays with you because I remember signing my contract for the show after like five months of being like, what am I doing? I was like, I hope they had Bravo and jail.
Starting point is 00:19:30 So this assholes. I don't know. I like see this shit. But no. So then when Naomi and I broke up and I moved out, I had to leave my garden behind in my like workshop. And I guess there's like a someone told me it's like a need to create. It's like this satisfaction from like creating something. And I tried to show like closed, but it's really hard.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I was like, there's got to be something I can sell. And then it kind of just became a thing and took off and something different. And I guess the goal is to eventually do like a houseware's brand like, you know, like a mail marty store thing. Yeah. You know, I'm just running with it. That would be very cool. Well, so every week we'll be like releasing new products and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:12 And I grew up like bartending on like the eastern shore and we have like Sodeau concepts. So we have like nine restaurants and all the kitchens have been like Craig. We want you to make us, like, custom, like, kitchen aprons instead of us wearing, like, just white ones. Yeah, yeah. Bad-ass designer ones. So, I mean, anything random, basically. Aprons. We can do.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yes. Coming soon. I can see, like, the line in my head already, like, I don't even know what, what, I guess you could call it sewing down south for, like, for Target. Yeah. Yeah. Like, like, for Target. Like, but it's Craig for Target. Well, I mean, yeah, that would be also.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Obviously. That's the goal. Then we can spend. Then we can bring a lot more people. to the Bahamas. Yeah, I was going to say, totally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 I have a really nice place in the Bahamas. But you guys are kicking off this season. There's already, there's already some drama because Austin's got a new girlfriend. You guys, it seemed like everybody's okay with her right now except for Shep, but it looks like that might change. It's,
Starting point is 00:21:11 it's exhausting. That relationship is so fucking exhausting. And it continues, like, to this day. But so here's the difference between Shep and I. See, I love Madison.
Starting point is 00:21:20 Madison and I have been friends. I think longer than I knew anyone else. Okay. And then she dated my best friend, like my shortstop growing up. Like, we, like, she dated him for like two years and they lived together. And then Austin was her rebound from him. And then that was like, you know, a year or two, a year and a half ago. But I just hate their relationship.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It literally affects everyone around them's lives and it's exhausting. It's like Austin get the fuck away from me. I don't want to hear about it anymore because it's the same thing over it, over. Yeah, how do you tell him that? Like, just like that. Apparently, they have, like, a count. Like, our sound guy had a count of, like, apparently, like, walking off, like, set,
Starting point is 00:22:04 I say, like, sorry. It's actually so funny that she was getting yelled at. He's, like, a little kid. I did so well yesterday. It is, like, a little kid, especially the snacks in the beginning. You guys, you guys could be in my, like, just free period.
Starting point is 00:22:21 All right, so. apparently I call like Austin a pussy like 800 times like over the three because I'm like God you're such a pussy yeah you need that video smashed up it's like he some reason he convinces himself everything's his fault and it sucks to watch your friend do that because you're like dude what are you doing so because it is very possible to like two people individually in a relationship but hate the relationship well yeah because it's just unhealthy but like I still like I don't have a problem with either of them. Yeah, it just doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah, like at all. And it's just like, you just can't figure it out. And it just keeps happening and happening. And all, you know, all they do is fighting stuff. But, yeah, you get to see a lot of craziness with that this season, which is funny. Yeah. Shep goes a little bit the other way. Like, he hates Madison.
Starting point is 00:23:12 So, like, his advice and talks with Austin are a lot more, like, aggressive. Like, he'll be, like, scream something from, like, the backseat. I'd be like, I. okay, we're just trying to say, like, we don't like them together, Shep, but he's like, well, I fucking hate her, and I don't want to do it. Yeah, you know, it's like. Well, I think in the coming attractions, we see Shep go talk to Austin and talk about, yeah, and talk about Madison and that she's might be up to no good.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Oh, no, never. Neither of them, neither of them. Everybody's up to no good. Yeah, and, yeah, and like that, you know, one ever likes to have to be the one that tells their friends. like their partners cheating on them but it's like you have to do it but then the last thing i expected well i mean it's a classic example of like you know kill the messenger because instead he just gets mad at us and it's like well dude we're not the ones fucking doing this like i don't know what to tell you um i think he'd just like to be in denial but yeah i mean it gets pretty reality this
Starting point is 00:24:09 this year which is funny you get to see a lot of good fights between yeah i forget who's i forget whose face, I think maybe it was Chelsea who was talking to Shep and Shep was like more upset at Madison after what happened, like after catching Austin and then Madison hooked up with somebody. And Shep's like,
Starting point is 00:24:30 well, Madison hooked up with somebody. We're like well, what do you mean? You're skipping over when Austin did. And Chelsea just looked at him like, are you kidding? I kind of, so that would be funny what your guys' opinion is. I actually have to agree with Shep on this one because like the Austin thing happened
Starting point is 00:24:45 which it was pretty demultuous before that. Yeah. But I guess they had said like they were dating or whatever. So that thing happened. But then they like, they like, they like, all right, clean slate, like we're getting back together. And then we caught her hooking up with this other guy. And like it was pretty bad and it starts to come out a little more on the season.
Starting point is 00:25:07 And that's why it's like, no. Like you don't just be like, well, you did it last time. And that's kind of thing. Once we call it a clean slate, it's a clean slate. That's what she's saying. I was like, I do actually agree with them. Yeah, you guys are having your guys back. And once there's a clean slate,
Starting point is 00:25:21 clean slate thing, I feel like people miss. Like, I didn't realize that that was part of it. Yeah, because, yeah, it kind of got,
Starting point is 00:25:27 like, clans over, but like, they have, now they do this clean slate thing every week. It's like, guys, this isn't a thing.
Starting point is 00:25:32 It's not clean. It's not clean. This is your relationship. It's just a dirty slate. Yeah. Like, it's horrible. But,
Starting point is 00:25:37 um, yeah, what was I was I was, yeah, yeah, So that kind of was that part. But, yeah. I mean, like last summer after the reunion, like we were going to, what's that bar that's on a sailboat?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Oh, I know. You went to like Grand shoots. It's cool. Yeah, it's out by, you know what I'm talking about. Everybody, it's all by the pier on the west side. It's the big boat. Oh, not Pier. No.
Starting point is 00:26:05 I know, I literally know exactly what you're talking about. I saw, yeah, I know. I'm envisioning it. I remember when you guys went. I remember when you guys went because I have friends that are obsessed with the show. I think maybe it was when Austin was on our show. And they were like, Fran, they're all at, whatever the heck. Whatever the bar.
Starting point is 00:26:24 They're at that. I'm sorry, Barr. We were just giving you no credit. Yeah, yeah. No free ads. We'll totally forget the time. And then we'll edit it in. They stood out in the street.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Like, we got out of the taxi and there was nothing to fight about and just screaming at each other. To my way where Shep and I were like, well, screw this. So we went down and had fun. on the boat, like for an hour by ourselves and our friend. And then when we were leaving the boat, they were finally like done screaming at each other. And then, I don't know, it's just exhausting is the only word, I can see. Good for the show. Yeah, it's going to make great TV.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Yeah, it makes great TV. And you and Naomi kind of seem like you're in like an okay place. Yeah, I mean, it's just okay. Yeah, it's finally like, I mean, we're civil. She's got a new boyfriend. Yeah. I think last year was the open wound like season. That's when you were still mad.
Starting point is 00:27:07 But now, I mean, it's just been a while. No one cares. Yeah. How's the dating game been for you? Is it fun? I just, I just been traveling around and just having fun and a few people have come down to the Bahamas. What's it like in the Bahamas?
Starting point is 00:27:22 No, nothing serious. No, I mean, I'm very single. It's just, yeah, I don't know. Just kind of having fun and traveling and, yeah, I don't know about the relationship. I mean, why not? You're going to the Bahamas. Yeah. Yeah, no, it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I mean, if I like someone, I'm not against a relationship. If I meet someone that I like like hanging out more than anyone else, then I'll continue to hang out with them. Are you a drunk order? Like, do you drunk shop because we saw you buy that beef jerky and not remember? Yeah, I don't know what the deal with that really was. Because I'm a drunk on-line shopper. No, I think they, like, they like tweeted me last night and they're like,
Starting point is 00:28:02 we sent you that to thank you for helping with the hurricane. Oh, okay. But I had no idea at the time. it was very possible that I ordered it. Did you eat it all? No, I gave it to the crew a lot of it. But I did eat a decent amount, but you can only eat so much meat turkey at one point. But no.
Starting point is 00:28:23 What's her name? It's Anna. Hannah Hayward is her like whole first name. Okay. But she's a nurse. So she's a trauma nurse, but in the Bahamas you can't work unless she was Damien. So like she's stuck in the Bahamas and it didn't have any work to do. And I was ignoring my phone and my designer.
Starting point is 00:28:38 He kept trying to get a hold of me and she was driving her nuts So she started doing it And I was like Why don't we just make this official? Yeah Because her husband Just started a rum company
Starting point is 00:28:47 And so that's what he does Which is really fun Like it's called Frigate Reserve So it was a cool thing To kind of like Be a part of this summer But yeah I don't know I want I'm what?
Starting point is 00:28:58 No we're just communicating Via hand signals we're good Yes if I'm flushed or like When I get a paycheck I buy a lot of stuff Yeah When I'm drunk Yeah
Starting point is 00:29:08 That's a problem. We all do it. It's fun though. Like getting boxes every day is fun. It really is. It's like, oh, I forgot I ordered that. It's like Christmas. It's like a little surprise for myself.
Starting point is 00:29:17 I'm not an aunt. So I don't take ambient, but I think that one's funny when people do the ambient shopping. Yeah. Because they really have no idea. No idea what's going on. Huge surprise. Unfortunately, we have to wrap up pregg, but it was amazing to have you here. We're so excited for the rest of Southern Charm.
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Starting point is 00:31:12 I bet you guys have had a very busy day. Busy two days. Yeah, kind of nonstop, but it's been fun. It's exciting. Do you guys love coming to New York or hate coming to New York? I'm a love, hey, just keep the flight. But once you're here, it's like, hey, it's New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah. Totally. Yeah. I want to make sure Natalie's okay over there. Can't hear anything. Yeah. Okay, okay. Oh, you can hear us now?
Starting point is 00:31:35 No, I get here and here. Okay, well, you don't need them. You don't need them? You don't need them? No, great. All right. I'm guessing. No, no, you're good. Natalie, do you love or hate coming to New York? I love coming to New York. I actually used to live here, so. Okay. Yeah, nice.
Starting point is 00:31:50 That's awesome. Well, you have a new show premiering very soon. What can people expect from this show? Because obviously, you guys are big social media stars, and you put your life out there. What will we get on this show? I think probably a different side of us Maybe you see on Instagram And Instagram we're really polished And kind of pick our best photos to put out there But when we go back to Canada
Starting point is 00:32:14 We do things like You know goat milk goats And go fishing A lot of no makeup days Wow We're a little more grounded when we're back home in Vancouver Yeah So like wildlife
Starting point is 00:32:28 Yeah There's not a lot of wildlife in LA I have to say from your Instagram you guys, we wouldn't expect that you guys are into that. So I love that you're showing that on the show and your family is a part of the show. Yes. Which I don't know. I mean, you guys aren't posting constantly with your family members.
Starting point is 00:32:45 But on the show, your family's in the mix. How did you get them involved? And were they hesitant? Everyone was pretty on board when we brought the idea to them, except the parents were kind of iffy. But the funny thing about that is once the cameras were rolling is they were like, jazz hands. Yeah, they have to all shy at first.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I'm like, okay. Yeah. And they're totally like natural. Like, they're the stars, I feel like it's parents. It's always, I feel like it's always the unexpected family members who end up being like the stars of the show, especially with shows like E, like you get Kristen Cavalary doing her show and nobody would have expected Jay Cutler to be like this is the favorite and everybody loves him. So it's probably going to be like one of your moms and we're all going to love him. Totally. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Do you guys have a family member you think is going to? stand out the most on this show? I think someone's humor is very unique is her brother Joel. He's very, what would you call it? Quick-witted, sarcastic. It's not dry, is it?
Starting point is 00:33:47 Yeah. Yeah, he always has like a comeback. That you're just like, oh my God, that was good. Yeah. That's hilarious. He's just really funny. Obviously, you know, now there's so many reality shows out there.
Starting point is 00:34:01 How are you guys, what do you want to bring to your show to make it different, make people see a different side? I think it's cool that a lot of people, I think, will feel that we're relatable. And I know that's kind of a word people throw out, but I really do think so. For example, my parents are divorced. Her parents are together for over 40 years. You know, a lot of people have, you know, those scenarios. And then we each have a gay brother, and you kind of follow some of their journey when
Starting point is 00:34:28 they're younger and even up to now. I think too we're just like a lot of fun as a family like we're always like dying laughing like cameras around or not we're having so much fun and I think that's kind of the takeaways like that we have heart and you know want to have fun and hopefully it's like something a little bit lighter for people to watch instead of like typical reality TV where people are throwing drinks and stuff right obviously there's drama but it's like natural yeah that you have with your brothers or sisters with your more family drama because it's I think people are always thinking about when they see girls on Instagram who have millions of followers. They're like, wow, I wonder what their real life is like. Because Instagram's Instagram and some of it's real. So to see kind of the behind the scenes would be really cool. But you guys are filming. The show's mostly in Canada or mostly in L.A.?
Starting point is 00:35:18 Mostly in Canada. Okay. Yeah. So visiting our family. So different. So what was that like? Because obviously you spent a lot of time filming there. How did you balance work with filming the show? It was a doozy.
Starting point is 00:35:29 You'll see. It was tricky. It was very tricky. I mean, we kept up with our Instagrams and our clothing line, and you follow that all the way throughout the show. Yeah, we decided to put out our clothing line in Canada and do our, like, fashion show for the finale of the show, which was amazing to do it with all our family. And they helped us put together everything from the runway to. Yeah, it was good teamwork. But yeah, it was kind of hard being there for a longer period of time. But social media, you can always work.
Starting point is 00:35:59 you're in a way, you know what I mean? Right. But do you have a favorite between Vancouver and L.A. For me. Really? I feel like they like resemble two different things. You know, when you want to be like chill and zen and get away, then definitely Canada. What's your favorite part about L.A.? The weather. The weather, obviously.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Vancouver's beautiful. Don't get me wrong, spring summer. But then it gets gray and rainy. And I get that like depression. Yeah. Yeah. It's a real thing. I really do get it. So I'm just so grateful for the sun in L.A.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Just the blue sky. Right. You have to be hot. But what's the best part about Vancouver? Because obviously, L.A. is always, you know. The fresh air. Fresh air. The food.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, the food. Yeah, those are probably the top. Yeah, I mean, it's just like, I've never been to Vancouver. I've seen videos and pictures and whatnot. And it looks absolutely stunning. Like, it's visually so beautiful. Yeah, it is. So hopefully we get to see that.
Starting point is 00:36:59 on your show. You see a lot of it. That's, yeah, it's going to be very exciting. You guys have been on reality TV before. This is not your first show. Done wags. How different is this compared to doing wags? But you're just completely different, you know,
Starting point is 00:37:16 because you're with girls that you don't know super well. And then you go to our full-blown family, you know, you kind of, it's a lot easier to forget that the cameras are there. So we're a lot more transparent. I think by default you get more out of everyone. because you're so comfortable. Right. That's true.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Yeah, you're not thinking about what you're saying because you're saying it to your family members. You never care what you said. You can call me this side and that. I don't care. You're my sister. You move on from it. Yeah, exactly. It's like when you fight with a friend, you go through like,
Starting point is 00:37:44 it's weird kind of. Fight with your sister and it's like two hours later, your best friends. Exactly. Yeah. All the time. Did you feel like this show originated because you guys were on wags? Do you think that had something to do with it? or is it just because you guys have this crazy family and they love that?
Starting point is 00:38:03 I think it all tied in, yes. I think we, on wags, we're ourselves and we're goofy. Yeah, totally. So I think we kind of became a little bit of fan favorite in a way. So I think it was a no-brainer to add the family because we say we're the tame ones. Like we're not even that. It's true. We're funny, but like wait until you meet everyone.
Starting point is 00:38:24 They're a riot. Yeah, that's hilarious. I love that because I feel like everybody. that everybody wants their family to be on reality. Always. My family always is like, we need a show. And I'm like, we think we're crazy, but like, will the outside world?
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah, like, well, they think that everybody's family is like, our family's nuts, but it takes like a special kind of family to be on reality TV. So that's definitely. Very exciting. Look, the formula is there. The Kardashians have been doing it for so long and have been so successful. You guys have been.
Starting point is 00:38:58 on the Kardashians, you were your friends with the family, you were just at the baby shower. Is that just magical? It looked magical. It was. It was so zen and dreamy. Yeah, it was very relaxing. What is it called C BD? I always say it the wrong way, but yeah, it was so much fun.
Starting point is 00:39:18 It was amazing. How did you guys become friends? We have a mutual friend. So when we first moved to L.A., we had a young makeup artist, live with us from New York and he was doing our makeup and Kim, you know, he caught Kim's eye and he started doing her makeup and he's now one of her full-time makeup artists and yeah, he introduced us. Yeah. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Have you guys been to a Sunday service? Yeah. Yes. Damn. Vives, you guys. What's it like? Can we just like, if you could describe Sunday service in one word, how would you describe it? I think mine would be vibes.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Vives. I like that one. One word. I know. You can give a few words. The energy is so, like, the energy is amazing. Friday energy, some might say. Yeah, Friday.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Yes. Friday energy. Did they give you any advice for your show? Not specifically. Kim's just, like, so supportive. Anytime we have any questions, we can just ask her and she's always so helpful. Yeah. Nice.
Starting point is 00:40:21 She's just the nice. Yeah. And like we said, you guys were on Wags before. Is there something that you're taking that you learn from that show, that you're going to take into this one. I think the main thing was be yourself because that's for the most part what we did on Wags and obviously
Starting point is 00:40:36 it did okay because we're in the scenario right now. So we definitely don't hold back at all. And I think too, like when you film your first new to filming you think, oh my gosh, like I said this, I said that and people write their comments and you think it's so detrimental and then you realize it's really not that big of a deal. So like going
Starting point is 00:40:53 into this one, it's even more like just leave it all on the table. Yeah, I think that's one thing that a lot of people struggle with, even we struggle with it, when you say something and then one person has a problem with what you said and you think about that one person all day and then you're like, that person's not thinking about me. Why am I thinking about this? So you guys just brush it off. You don't care. That's great. Yeah. What's your social media mentality? Like, do you guys look at any negative stuff or you do try and stay more positive? I'm a fan of blocking words. Okay. Oh, you so do block people or just words? I always forget you can do that
Starting point is 00:41:27 I do the word. I don't have to deal with it. You don't see it. Wasn't in your mind. Wasn't your vibration. And you go out with the day. See, I'm going to write that one down. I always forget to block the word.
Starting point is 00:41:35 That's so true because there's so many like key words that people use to just knock you down. Yes. You can never say this to me. It's perfect. I'm going to block like every negative word now. It's a good idea. I'm going to write that down. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I'm going to do it. But obviously both of your social media followings are huge. How did you guys get to that point? A lot of people want to know this question. It obviously takes a lot of, you know, creativity. Yeah. How do you guys think it happened for you guys? You know, I think just authentically we were, you know, enjoying photography and taking pictures.
Starting point is 00:42:14 And it was kind of in the beginning stages of Instagram when not everyone was necessarily tagging what they were wearing or letting you know what products are using on their faces. And we just made sure to do that when there wasn't a big group of people doing that, you know. So we were kind of some of the first ones to do that. And I think we caught traction that way. Early on. And yeah, I think before we were even on wigs had like a million followers, you know, just from doing that, you know. Before everybody was an Instagram model you guys were.
Starting point is 00:42:41 And the beauty game. The beauty game helps so much, especially when you're giving tips and whatnot, which you guys have always been really good with. Yeah. What are your, like when people ask you what your easiest beauty tips are, What do you tell them? I like laser facial. I like live for them.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I try to get them once every like three weeks. What does it do? Just keeps you looking not like an old bag. I mean, it does a bunch of different things. What is the one we get? PRP one. Yeah. How do you describe that one?
Starting point is 00:43:19 Just get it. Yeah, it's like a microneedle thing and they draw your blood and spin in and pull the plasma. and then pour the plasma into the little hole thing? So you guys do that. So you guys do that. That's not scary. No. Well, now they don't do the blood so much anymore because they can separate it.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So you just get the clear stuff, all the good stuff. So it's clear. And what does your face look like after you do that? It like peels for a few days, look like Freddy Kruger a little bit, and then you look amazing. But it's plump. It takes off all your dead skin, the new skin surfaces. But I'm going to sound like my mom here, but I think the most important beauty thing, is like sleep and drink a water.
Starting point is 00:43:58 You know what I mean? Everybody says water. Everybody says water and I'm like, I hate drinking water. I hate drinking water. And I just feel like I have to do it. We have to. And Olivia, I got to ask you because you're a blonde. I know.
Starting point is 00:44:12 This is a new blonde. Yeah. And this is your hair. You did this. What was that process? Because your hip was really dark before. Yeah, it was really dark and really long. I didn't even wear extensions.
Starting point is 00:44:23 So it was like way down here. I've never had short hair And I've never had this blonde at all And I was just like, you know what? New show, new vibes I want to do something different And I just decided to do it And I booked it
Starting point is 00:44:36 I was in two days later I got there at 10 I left at 6 Yeah This is what came out Wow, that's crazy Whoever did it did a phenomenal job Yeah
Starting point is 00:44:46 They killed it It looks really great And everybody loves a blonde And a britt Yeah It's always a good vibe for sure. But back to talking, you guys are obviously beauty community fashion designers. How do you pick which brands you are going to advertise on your Instagram? Because right now, you see
Starting point is 00:45:05 everybody selling something. Right. Yeah. I think for us, it's really important to work with brands that we actually really like. It's like if you weren't getting paid for this, would I honestly wear this or do I really like it? You know, and that's kind of what we've been doing from the beginning. I just don't want to promote anything I don't actually like. Yeah, because your followers are trusting you. So I don't want them to buy it and be like, this sucks, you know? Yeah, yeah, totally. So how we pick is just, yeah, we look at the product and like, do you like it?
Starting point is 00:45:34 Yeah, so I'll endorse it. Do you guys follow along with the, like, beauty community drama on YouTube? I did see what was going on. James Charles and Tocet of Westbrook. I'm not like totally dived in, but like I know what's going on. That's crazy. That's pretty crazy. Is it losing followers and stuff?
Starting point is 00:45:52 Like, oh, my gosh. Is it crazy behind the scenes? I don't know if you guys would know this, but I'm curious. With their scenario? Yeah, like with the YouTube beauty community. There's definitely like a community and like cleaks and all that stuff. Yeah, it's 100%. Yeah, that's wild.
Starting point is 00:46:08 It's a whole different. It's a whole other game. It is. But think of it like high school though. You know, you have like the tables or the groups. Yeah. It's kind of like that in a way. You like to hope and think everyone's all together.
Starting point is 00:46:18 And sometimes they are. But there's always some people that are. There's always snakes and. the grass. Yes. That's so funny. And so obviously you guys are putting your families on this show. Are there any relationships on this show? Maybe something. Oh. Oh. Oh. We're definitely open and honest. Yes. There definitely is some relationships you will see. Where they go, I don't know much. You got to tune in and watch. Love that. Okay. Why is it like introducing somebody to your family on TV? It's the chopping block. I mean, not even on TV.
Starting point is 00:46:54 I feel like our family is like a big panel of judges. And it's like if anyone disapproves, if they rub one person wrong and they don't like, you're like, well, I mean, come on, you can't. You've got to be unanimous. Yeah, it has to be unanimous across the board. And that's for you too. Like, if you really like this person, somebody in your family's like, I smell the bullshit, then you're like, I got to cut this person off.
Starting point is 00:47:16 It depends who it is. For the most part, though, I don't want someone, you know. We're on the shopping block too. give it to us. Yeah. Yeah. So how do you guys, do you guys actually look at your DMs? Like if guys try and slide in, do you pay any attention to it?
Starting point is 00:47:33 Or is it, or do you try and meet people more organically? Try organically is always bad. But the last person I dated was a slider. Yeah. Oh. He slid. How do you, well, I mean, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, how do you weed through the DMs, but I feel like there's some that pop out.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Well, and my defense is. he knew like everyone than I knew. It's weird we didn't even meet before. So that's my little defense card. That's totally fine. I feel like that's fine. I felt like we should. I had a very similar situation where we had a conversation.
Starting point is 00:48:04 We're like, how have we never met before? We have all the same friends. Yes. That's fair. You don't use dating apps. I've never done it once. I haven't, but I would be curious to like. It's fun just to look at sometimes.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I've never used one here to be honest. Yeah, like the swipe thing. You're just bored and like, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to even sitting there like a judge. It seems fun, but I can't use it.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah. But also, besides the show, you guys are working on your own businesses. And you mentioned that you want to do a podcast. Oh, you caught that. I did catch that. Do you think that we'll expect that at any time soon, or is it kind of on the back burner for now? I think sooner than later, but I wouldn't say immediately soon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:51 You got a whole show to do first. You got a whole show right now. Yeah, exactly. It was like we took a couple of meetings and stuff and went well and I think we're really interested in doing that. So how do you guys balance all this? You have so much going on in your life like you have fun time? No.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Yeah. Is there a downtime? You hang out? Because social media doesn't stop. I think so how do you disconnect? That's been our biggest challenge lately is trying to find balance. Like we'll look at each other and we'll be like, hey, we've got former things to do. We look at the course.
Starting point is 00:49:21 clock and it's 1 a.m. and we're like, oh, well, we haven't even, like, watched a TV show or, like, you know, eating dinner. We're like, okay, we need to find a way to manage this better, but it's hard. It's really hard. Like you said, social media never turns up. I could work at any point. Right. We all, like, could answer a DM or, you know, like. Right. And there's always something to see. Oh, yeah. That's my biggest problem, like, going to sleep at night. I'm like, I feel like. I'm a scroller. See, she's not. I give her a hard time. So for me, I have, like, a rule. I just go on there for work and then things that have inspired me a few pages
Starting point is 00:49:55 I'll like check out and then I get off but as far as like getting into the whole like actually looking at Instagram and checking out people stuff I know the YouTube drama. Damn that's very impressive. That is hard to do. I am a huge scroller as well. Late night scroller. Late night scrolls. I'll be in like the weirdest hashtags at 1 a.m.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Dig D. We need to start like a support group. Late night scrollers. Yeah that actually could be its hashtag and we'll put our own content. There you go. See, it never stops. It never stops. Well, guys, this has been a blast.
Starting point is 00:50:30 Thank you so much for joining us. Relatively Nat and Live premieres June 2nd, 10 p.m. on E. You're so excited. Everybody check it out. Thank you guys. Thanks, thanks for having us. All right, that wraps up. Today's special episode.
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