Chicks in the Office - Bonus Memorial Day Episode (ft. Craig Conover + Nat & Liv)
Episode Date: May 27, 2019Watch/Subscribe to our brand new Snapchat show: (http://bit.ly/thegroupchat). CITO Summer Merch: (http://bit.ly/citomerch). Interview with Craig Conover from Bravo's 'Southern Charm' – talking livi...ng in The Bahamas, pillow business, Madison and Austen's relationship and his dating life (5:55-30:03). Interview with Natalie Halcro & Olivia Pierson from E!'s new show 'Relatively Nat & Liv' – talking their new reality show, their family being the real stars, Vancouver vs. LA and being friends with the Kardashians (31:47-51:29). Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office
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All right, friend, we have a special show for our listeners today.
It's a little Memorial Day weekend special episode.
We have an interview with Craig from Southern Charm.
Fantastic.
We love the Southern Charm boys.
We love them.
It's like you never know what you're going to expect when they walk in here.
Because they are, they fit the name.
They are very charming.
Yes, very true.
Every time I want them, they leave.
I'm like, come back.
Yeah, I'm like, let's hang out.
Let's go out.
Just a little warning.
We had some problems with the audio.
There was a little bit of a fuck up.
So we tried to fix it.
Hopefully it works.
Then we have an interview with Nat and Live.
You know, big social media stars, Natalie Halkrow, Olivia Pearson.
They have a new show on E, relatively Nat and Live.
So we talked a little bit about that.
We talked about the relationships with the Kardashians.
So it's a great show.
Yeah.
We kept it short this Monday because like we said, it's Memorial Day.
We hope that you're out there doing great things.
It's a day.
Hopefully the weather's nice.
It's a day to be outside.
But, you know, just sneak this listen in before you do anything.
Yeah, listen to the interviews and then get your day started.
Exactly.
All right, friend.
Let's get into it, starting off with Craig from Southern Charm.
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We are joined by special guest.
Craig from Southern Charm.
He is here.
How you doing?
Good.
Thanks for having girls.
My voice is a little gone.
Yeah.
That's okay.
Why is it gone?
A little partying?
Yeah, I mean, it's now been on like four weeks, I think, because I think you're supposed to rest for five days in a row.
And that hasn't really happened.
And just got back from Costa Rica for four days, which did not help it at all.
That doesn't help.
And flying.
I always lose my voice post flying.
Should I just blame it on that?
Yeah, yeah.
I'm giving you a real.
I'm giving you a really.
I'm giving you a really.
I lose my...
It's not flying.
I'm right in here at the boat with you.
Like if I, if I, like, I'll have one weekend going out Friday, going out Saturday night,
don't get enough sleep.
Sunday, I can't speak at all.
Like, Fran was more hungover than she is now.
She would sound like you.
Okay, cool.
During the NFL season, Sundays would get added on to that for games and then Monday morning
I'd come in and real.
I was like, you can't talk.
That talking is your job.
It's like I'm doing a show with a different person because it's just a totally different voice.
Yeah, that part of the year is really tough.
Yeah.
When you're still drinking on Sundays and everything.
Yeah, I showed up and she's like, well, you know you have a full day at press.
And then you have to do Watch What Happens.
And I was like, well, we'll see what happens.
So you did Watch What Happens Live was you did last night.
Yes, with our very own Ramona.
It was, it was great.
Do you love doing Watcher Happens Live?
Yeah, that's one of the best parts of the job is getting to go hang out with Andy.
And watch what happens is always fun.
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
Did you guys watch it?
I saw some of the clips, yeah.
Was it okay?
I liked it.
I liked it.
It was good stuff because you have Ramona in the mix.
Rona is always very entertaining.
I thought it was,
I thought it was tame for what it could have been,
but that's what they were apparently rooting for.
So they were like hoping it didn't get too crazy.
Really?
I feel like as a viewer.
I wanted to get crazy.
Well, I know.
And I thought it was going to get a little louder,
but I could tell by like the faces
and like even after they were so happy
because they were like, no, like we contained it.
It was fun and fun.
Well, maybe like Ramona's a little bit of a lot.
mild card so they didn't know what they were going.
It could have gone all over the place.
Exactly.
It was fine.
And she only, I think we kept her.
She only said the F word once and which was like a new record.
Great.
It was great.
What was your record?
So I cost more than anyone I know usually, but for some reason I'm able to like not do it when
I'm on like when I'm live.
Yeah.
You're allowed to do it here.
We have a huge problem where we do a Snapchat show now every day and you can't curse
on Snapchat.
We have to redo so much.
We can't say that.
We can do it in the podcast.
We can do it on radio and we can do it on Instagram.
This is the only thing we can do it.
We have a problem.
Yeah, I'm not used to being able to, so that's cool.
Yeah.
That's good.
Yeah, it was fun.
But, I mean, you just get hammered and go plays games.
It's really the smartest move that they do.
Like, Andy, just get everybody a little drunk.
It makes everybody open up more.
Can you guys drink here?
Because my stuff yesterday,
I was like, and I asked the person with me, I was like, Amanda, why can't I drink?
This is the only part of the job that I'm not drinking.
Yeah.
Like, every other part of this job, I'm hammered the whole time.
There's really no rules in this place.
We've had, we've done it before.
You could do.
For normally end of the week, it's more okay.
Like, they'll open a bottle of wine while they're on radio, stuff like that.
Yeah.
You know what?
Next time, we'll get you drinks.
Yeah, we'll make sure we have this time.
We'll make sure we have some beers or something.
Do you feel like Andy?
Andy is very good at getting information out of people that people usually wouldn't say.
I think he's the best.
And I'll tell people like meeting him, you will not be disappointed at all.
You literally look into his eyes and you want to tell him everything that's ever happened to you.
Here are all my secrets.
Honestly, that's how it is.
And you see people all the time.
It's a weird example.
But like Paris last week was like, I heard her the next day on the radio.
And she's like, yeah, I kind of really wish I didn't tell Andy the thing about.
Lindsay Lohan, he's just so easy to talk to.
We talked about that too.
We were like, Andy just knows how to get people.
Austin, like the first reunion in Austin did.
He was like nervous wreck on the stage.
I was like, dude, I know it's hard to believe.
But trust me, when Andy starts talking to you, everything goes away.
And then like in the first break, he's like, dude, that's totally what happened.
He was like, so he's great.
You watch it every time.
And I feel like you just, I mean, we've obviously never been on the show.
But I feel like once you step on, you forget there's cameras around.
and you just feel like you're maybe like in the therapist office with Andy.
Oh, yeah, really is.
Like one-on-one.
So you guys have never been?
You should come next time.
I've been to the show, seeing the taping, but we're trying to get on as bartenders.
I've never been.
Oh, that would be cool.
We want to do it so bad.
It's, it's right.
Our time will come.
Our time will come.
I have fate eventually.
Yeah, that's not too crazy.
Yes.
No.
Crossing our fingers.
Yes.
So, Southern Charm.
New season, season six, just premiered last week.
We had a new episode last night.
So we're two episodes in.
Can you, are you shocked by how amazing everybody, like, loves the show?
You have made it six seasons now.
Yeah, I mean, that's pretty wild, honestly.
Yeah, it's a long time.
We didn't even think it was a real thing when it started.
We were like, whatever.
We'll come to the, like, you know, it just kind of, it's kind of happened.
And then, yeah, here we are six years later.
I just don't understand how stuff keeps happening because every year, you're like,
there's no way in hell, like, that anything crazier than this can happen.
I mean, who the, like, no one's ever called someone, like an egg donor.
It's like, you're not the real mom, you're just an egg donor.
Like, that's nuts.
That was crazy.
And then somehow, I was hiding behind the car because I already taking my mic off because
I was like, fuck you're going out of here.
That's amazing.
You can just be like, oh, my mic's already gone by.
Yeah, I was like, holy shit, this is insane.
Yeah.
But then this year, it gets even crazier.
So every year, well, and then, you know, like, people are getting pregnant all the time.
I mean, those were easy years.
People are popping out babies left and right.
And Catherine just kept getting pregnant.
That made our lives a lot easier.
But this year is pretty wild, honestly.
And the stuff that happens, I'm like, you can't make this shit up.
It's just insane.
Yeah, I feel like a lot of people, a lot of times with reality TV, they're like,
oh, the producers are behind the scenes saying to say this, say that.
But with you guys, it's real all the time.
Yeah, it's pretty raw.
Like, I mean, they just found a bunch of crazy people.
Yeah.
And it's, and Charleston's such a small place.
Like, I don't know.
It's kind of like college or anything.
drama but there's something that happens at the end of the season at our cash trip we get a steamboat
and we're about to leave the house and we have like 500s left and like laying on the couch
and all the suitcases are at the door and something happens I'm not going to say what I'm just saying
cover your ears yes yes our bravo rep giving you the stick guy like Craig you've been good
of the last time let it all out now something happens and
And I'm just dying laughing and like everyone comes from back in.
And it's like you could.
I mean, it was five minutes left before we're on the bus.
And just shit hits the fan.
And that was fun because it wasn't me.
And one of the producers were like, Greg, stop laughing.
Stop laughing.
And I was like, I can't.
I don't know what to tell you.
Like, this is amazing.
Yeah.
Those are the best moments.
Something to look forward to.
Yeah.
There you go.
We're trying to be the next.
Andy.
Just tell us everything.
We'll see you.
Good start.
Yeah.
Definitely.
So you've opened this season.
Cameron said that you got your groove back.
The Bahamas did you very well.
Did you expect to be in the Bahamas for as long as you stayed?
No, not at first.
Well, when I first, so Whitney's like doing a show in Bimni,
and I went to visit him and help him with like casting.
And I was like, oh, there's like a really cool place that I'd gone to a wedding at.
It's not too far away.
So I flew over.
I called my buddies.
And actually it's my
Like my manager in a hair
It was her and her husband
And I like flew over there
And after being there for like a week
I was like dude I don't think I really want to leave
And I didn't have to be back to the States till September
And I was like fucking
So I flew home and got two of like the biggest suitcases
In Walmart I could find
Because it was like midnight
And just packed both of them and just flew back
And I was like all right
I guess I'm going to be here for a little bit
That is insane
That is my dream
That's my dream
That's my dream
All the time I'm always like
Why don't people just take off if they have if they have it
Just go to the Bahamas or something
That's what I mean I said
Literally what he did
Yeah that's what you did
It's like a dream
But I watch it all the time
Like I have a like two bedroom two bath
I have basically had an extra bedroom
Extra bathroom that sat empty for like three months
Because my friends even on the East Coast
Like just won't it come
I'm like they're like Craig
We can't just go to the Bahamas
It's like but you can
Like just go get on the plane
And fly down here
And everything else is taking care of
But like I don't know that
People have this like, I don't know, just this block where they're like, yeah, but you can't just do that.
I'm like, but you can't.
You can't do that.
Yeah.
And I know, like, you know, fortunate situation with timing.
But yeah, I just said, fuck it and went.
And I don't know.
It's just healthier down there.
And I actually spend less money down there than I don't do.
Really?
That makes sense.
Charleston's very expensive.
What was it like day to day in the Bahamas?
So it's awesome.
Instead of seeing the sunrise because you're still up, you actually wake up with the sunrise.
and then you go down
like you're only in board shorts or bathing suit
at all times because you have tabs everywhere
and you just pay it before you leave the island
and then I would drive like five minutes down to the jib room
which is our like little marina
and the bartender were making a drink
and then you hop on the boat my friend has like a 30 foot contender down there
and then you just went bar hopping on the boat all day
we go spearfishing and like blasts.
Life I just sounds so big.
We have this song that we play like right when we get on the boat
And then you're like, all right, let's do it.
And then you just go on adventures and stuff.
And people are always visiting for like those guys.
I'm, you guys, honestly, like, someone should come down and visit.
Because I'm like, someone come, like, see, like, it's really cool.
Hey, Greg, if you're going to invite us to the Bahamas, the Bahamas, we'll do a video series.
Go to the Bahamas, whole big thing.
Bahamas and Craig.
So good.
That sounds fantastic.
Are you going back this summer?
Yes.
Well, I have, I still have the place.
So my roommate was calling me a slum lord because we had water damage.
So I'm like spending some time in Charleston.
But I'll go back June 2nd and then I'll probably be there until the end of July.
So you guys hop on a plane.
You're getting some more time in for sure.
That's awesome.
I think we got to go to the Baham.
I know.
It's like I'm locked in.
A boat every day, bar hopping.
Oh, and the airport's like six minutes from my house.
And there's no laws.
So there's no rules.
So there's no cops on the island.
So there's no authority.
So it's like the only rules don't be.
an asshole and like don't die.
Yeah. So like you just, you literally when you fly
and you get picked up and you get handed
a drink and you go down and get
on the boat and yeah it's fun. Wow,
that's the life. That is the life.
I'm pointing at the screen because it
went black and you want to fix that long. No, it's just not making
attention. Um, well
honestly, I'm very jealous because
you're going back soon. That's like two
weeks now and you'll be gone the whole summer
and I might cry right now because that sounds
like the best time ever.
What's the
what's the lawyer situation like right now?
So I'm, I am an active attorney, fortunately,
so I don't have to be screened that on the street every day.
Did you take the bar?
Yeah, it's like, leave me alone.
Okay, so that's good.
Yeah, I'm not going to practice for money while on TV.
So we have a great clinic in Charleston.
We have basically crisis ministries,
I guess 90% of our, like, oh, most people are veterans,
which I don't think should be, like,
I don't think that word should exist in general.
And so they've expressed, they basically said, you know, if I'd like to start working with them, I can.
So I'm going to be going back and forth.
I'll probably do two weeks on two weeks off, honestly, because I want to get more active and stuff like that.
Yeah.
So that would be cool because then I'd get hours in the courtroom and I'd be able to help people out with just, you know, the goal anyway.
So it's a lot healthier situation than it used to be.
Right, right.
And then you also have the pillow coming.
Yeah, where did the pillows come in?
Well, that's, yeah, that actually, I brought you guys some shirts.
Oh, oh, awesome.
Yeah, no, fortunately, it's finally a real thing, you know, after years of talking about it and wasting this platform that we have.
Because even on the show, I don't know if it was the first episode or last night, you're like, we can only make 10 pillows to leave that.
And I'm like, oh, no, that's, that can be good.
Yeah, I'm going to hard.
So, well, that's what you get to see is kind of like the development of me kind of letting go of control.
and, you know, the process of going from him
and making the pillows, or the process of it just being me
and, like, my helper to, like, actually bringing in help.
And so now, yeah, we launched on April 1st, and it's doing really well.
So, um, that's so exciting.
How did you get into that?
I don't know.
I do weird stuff.
Like, so it asked yesterday.
So, let's just wait a hobby.
Can you just start sewing one day?
You're like, this is fun.
Yeah, well, no, we got, we still had home back in school.
So in eighth grade, we spent half the year cooking and then half the year sewing,
which was really cool.
And you were good.
Like where people were in high school like what the fuck?
Were your friends like Craig Wires?
So and so much.
I'm sure if Shep was in my class.
You would have been not very nice about it.
So then, no, I wasn't cool to like freshman year of college or senior year high school.
What does that mean cool?
Well, like I got bullied until like the end of high school.
You got bullied in high school?
But I didn't look like, yeah, definitely.
But if like I think, if.
It's crazy because it stays with you because I remember signing my contract for the show after like five months of being like, what am I doing?
I was like, I hope they had Bravo and jail.
So this assholes.
I don't know.
I like see this shit.
But no.
So then when Naomi and I broke up and I moved out, I had to leave my garden behind in my like workshop.
And I guess there's like a someone told me it's like a need to create.
It's like this satisfaction from like creating something.
And I tried to show like closed, but it's really hard.
I was like, there's got to be something I can sell.
And then it kind of just became a thing and took off and something different.
And I guess the goal is to eventually do like a houseware's brand like, you know,
like a mail marty store thing.
Yeah.
You know, I'm just running with it.
That would be very cool.
Well, so every week we'll be like releasing new products and stuff.
And I grew up like bartending on like the eastern shore and we have like Sodeau concepts.
So we have like nine restaurants and all the kitchens have been like Craig.
We want you to make us, like, custom, like, kitchen aprons instead of us wearing, like, just white ones.
Yeah, yeah.
Bad-ass designer ones.
So, I mean, anything random, basically.
Aprons.
We can do.
Yes.
Coming soon.
I can see, like, the line in my head already, like, I don't even know what, what, I guess you could call it sewing down south for, like, for Target.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, like, for Target.
Like, but it's Craig for Target.
Well, I mean, yeah, that would be also.
Obviously.
That's the goal.
Then we can spend.
Then we can bring a lot more people.
to the Bahamas.
Yeah, I was going to say,
totally.
Yeah.
I have a really nice place in the Bahamas.
But you guys are kicking off this season.
There's already,
there's already some drama because Austin's got a new girlfriend.
You guys,
it seemed like everybody's okay with her right now except for Shep,
but it looks like that might change.
It's,
it's exhausting.
That relationship is so fucking exhausting.
And it continues,
like,
to this day.
But so here's the difference between Shep and I.
See,
I love Madison.
Madison and I have been friends.
I think longer than I knew anyone else.
Okay.
And then she dated my best friend, like my shortstop growing up.
Like, we, like, she dated him for like two years and they lived together.
And then Austin was her rebound from him.
And then that was like, you know, a year or two, a year and a half ago.
But I just hate their relationship.
It literally affects everyone around them's lives and it's exhausting.
It's like Austin get the fuck away from me.
I don't want to hear about it anymore because it's the same thing over it, over.
Yeah, how do you tell him that?
Like, just like that.
Apparently, they have, like, a count.
Like, our sound guy had a count of, like,
apparently, like, walking off, like, set,
I say, like, sorry.
It's actually so funny that she was getting yelled at.
He's, like, a little kid.
I did so well yesterday.
It is, like, a little kid, especially the snacks
in the beginning.
You guys, you guys could be in my, like,
just free period.
All right, so.
apparently I call like Austin a pussy like 800 times like over the three because I'm like
God you're such a pussy yeah you need that video smashed up it's like he some reason he
convinces himself everything's his fault and it sucks to watch your friend do that because you're
like dude what are you doing so because it is very possible to like two people individually
in a relationship but hate the relationship well yeah because it's just unhealthy but like I still like
I don't have a problem with either of them.
Yeah, it just doesn't work.
Yeah, like at all.
And it's just like, you just can't figure it out.
And it just keeps happening and happening.
And all, you know, all they do is fighting stuff.
But, yeah, you get to see a lot of craziness with that this season, which is funny.
Yeah.
Shep goes a little bit the other way.
Like, he hates Madison.
So, like, his advice and talks with Austin are a lot more, like, aggressive.
Like, he'll be, like, scream something from, like, the backseat.
I'd be like, I.
okay, we're just trying to say, like, we don't like them together, Shep,
but he's like, well, I fucking hate her, and I don't want to do it.
Yeah, you know, it's like.
Well, I think in the coming attractions, we see Shep go talk to Austin and talk about, yeah,
and talk about Madison and that she's might be up to no good.
Oh, no, never.
Neither of them, neither of them.
Everybody's up to no good.
Yeah, and, yeah, and like that, you know, one ever likes to have to be the one that tells their friends.
like their partners cheating on them but it's like you have to do it but then the last thing i
expected well i mean it's a classic example of like you know kill the messenger because instead he just
gets mad at us and it's like well dude we're not the ones fucking doing this like i don't know what to
tell you um i think he'd just like to be in denial but yeah i mean it gets pretty reality this
this year which is funny you get to see a lot of good fights between yeah i forget who's i forget
whose face, I think maybe it was
Chelsea who was talking to
Shep and Shep was like more upset at
Madison after
what happened, like after
catching Austin and then Madison
hooked up with somebody. And Shep's like,
well, Madison hooked up with somebody. We're like
well, what do you mean? You're skipping
over when Austin did. And Chelsea
just looked at him like, are you kidding?
I kind of, so that would be funny what your guys' opinion is.
I actually have to agree with Shep on this one
because
like the Austin thing happened
which it was pretty demultuous before that.
Yeah.
But I guess they had said like they were dating or whatever.
So that thing happened.
But then they like, they like, they like,
all right, clean slate, like we're getting back together.
And then we caught her hooking up with this other guy.
And like it was pretty bad and it starts to come out a little more on the season.
And that's why it's like, no.
Like you don't just be like, well, you did it last time.
And that's kind of thing.
Once we call it a clean slate, it's a clean slate.
That's what she's saying.
I was like, I do actually agree with them.
Yeah, you guys are having your guys back.
And once there's a clean slate,
clean slate thing,
I feel like people miss.
Like,
I didn't realize that that was part of it.
Yeah,
because,
yeah,
it kind of got,
like,
clans over,
but like,
they have,
now they do this clean slate thing every week.
It's like,
guys,
this isn't a thing.
It's not clean.
It's not clean.
This is your relationship.
It's just a dirty slate.
Yeah.
Like,
it's horrible.
But,
um,
yeah,
what was I was I was,
yeah,
yeah,
So that kind of was that part.
But, yeah.
I mean, like last summer after the reunion, like we were going to, what's that bar that's on a sailboat?
Oh, I know.
You went to like Grand shoots.
It's cool.
Yeah, it's out by, you know what I'm talking about.
Everybody, it's all by the pier on the west side.
It's the big boat.
Oh, not Pier.
No.
I know, I literally know exactly what you're talking about.
I saw, yeah, I know.
I'm envisioning it.
I remember when you guys went.
I remember when you guys went because I have friends that are obsessed with the show.
I think maybe it was when Austin was on our show.
And they were like, Fran, they're all at, whatever the heck.
Whatever the bar.
They're at that.
I'm sorry, Barr.
We were just giving you no credit.
Yeah, yeah.
No free ads.
We'll totally forget the time.
And then we'll edit it in.
They stood out in the street.
Like, we got out of the taxi and there was nothing to fight about and just screaming at each other.
To my way where Shep and I were like, well, screw this.
So we went down and had fun.
on the boat, like for an hour by ourselves and our friend.
And then when we were leaving the boat, they were finally like done screaming at each other.
And then, I don't know, it's just exhausting is the only word, I can see.
Good for the show.
Yeah, it's going to make great TV.
Yeah, it makes great TV.
And you and Naomi kind of seem like you're in like an okay place.
Yeah, I mean, it's just okay.
Yeah, it's finally like, I mean, we're civil.
She's got a new boyfriend.
Yeah.
I think last year was the open wound like season.
That's when you were still mad.
But now, I mean, it's just been a while.
No one cares.
Yeah.
How's the dating game been for you?
Is it fun?
I just,
I just been traveling around and just having fun and a few people have come down to the Bahamas.
What's it like in the Bahamas?
No, nothing serious.
No, I mean, I'm very single.
It's just, yeah, I don't know.
Just kind of having fun and traveling and, yeah, I don't know about the relationship.
I mean, why not?
You're going to the Bahamas.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's, I don't know.
I mean, if I like someone, I'm not against a relationship.
If I meet someone that I like like hanging out more than anyone else,
then I'll continue to hang out with them.
Are you a drunk order?
Like, do you drunk shop because we saw you buy that beef jerky and not remember?
Yeah, I don't know what the deal with that really was.
Because I'm a drunk on-line shopper.
No, I think they, like, they like tweeted me last night and they're like,
we sent you that to thank you for helping with the hurricane.
Oh, okay.
But I had no idea at the time.
it was very possible that I ordered it.
Did you eat it all?
No, I gave it to the crew a lot of it.
But I did eat a decent amount, but you can only eat so much meat turkey at one point.
But no.
What's her name?
It's Anna.
Hannah Hayward is her like whole first name.
Okay.
But she's a nurse.
So she's a trauma nurse, but in the Bahamas you can't work unless she was Damien.
So like she's stuck in the Bahamas and it didn't have any work to do.
And I was ignoring my phone and my designer.
He kept trying to get a hold of me
and she was driving her nuts
So she started doing it
And I was like
Why don't we just make this official?
Yeah
Because her husband
Just started a rum company
And so that's what he does
Which is really fun
Like it's called Frigate Reserve
So it was a cool thing
To kind of like
Be a part of this summer
But yeah I don't know
I want I'm what?
No we're just communicating
Via hand signals we're good
Yes if I'm flushed or like
When I get a paycheck
I buy a lot of stuff
Yeah
When I'm drunk
Yeah
That's a problem.
We all do it.
It's fun though.
Like getting boxes every day is fun.
It really is.
It's like, oh, I forgot I ordered that.
It's like Christmas.
It's like a little surprise for myself.
I'm not an aunt.
So I don't take ambient, but I think that one's funny when people do the ambient shopping.
Yeah.
Because they really have no idea.
No idea what's going on.
Huge surprise.
Unfortunately, we have to wrap up pregg, but it was amazing to have you here.
We're so excited for the rest of Southern Charm.
This season, it is Wednesday nights, 8 o'clock on Bravo.
Make sure you tune in.
I think we're in for a wild ride this season.
Yeah, thanks for having.
It's awesome.
Thank you.
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All right, we're here with Natalie Halkrow and Olivia Pearson,
whose new show premieres June 2nd on E, 10 p.m.
relatively Nat and Live, thank you for joining us.
Thank you for having us.
We're excited to be here.
Thank you for coming on the show.
I bet you guys have had a very busy day.
Busy two days.
Yeah, kind of nonstop, but it's been fun.
It's exciting.
Do you guys love coming to New York or hate coming to New York?
I'm a love, hey, just keep the flight.
But once you're here, it's like, hey, it's New York.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Totally.
Yeah.
I want to make sure Natalie's okay over there.
Can't hear anything.
Yeah.
Okay, okay.
Oh, you can hear us now?
No, I get here and here.
Okay, well, you don't need them.
You don't need them? You don't need them?
No, great. All right.
I'm guessing.
No, no, you're good. Natalie, do you love or hate coming to New York?
I love coming to New York. I actually used to live here, so.
Okay. Yeah, nice.
That's awesome. Well, you have a new show premiering very soon.
What can people expect from this show? Because obviously, you guys are big social media stars, and you put your life out there.
What will we get on this show?
I think probably a different side of us
Maybe you see on Instagram
And Instagram we're really polished
And kind of pick our best photos to put out there
But when we go back to Canada
We do things like
You know goat milk goats
And go fishing
A lot of no makeup days
Wow
We're a little more grounded when we're back home in Vancouver
Yeah
So like wildlife
Yeah
There's not a lot of wildlife in LA
I have to say from your Instagram
you guys, we wouldn't expect that you guys are into that.
So I love that you're showing that on the show and your family is a part of the show.
Yes.
Which I don't know.
I mean, you guys aren't posting constantly with your family members.
But on the show, your family's in the mix.
How did you get them involved?
And were they hesitant?
Everyone was pretty on board when we brought the idea to them, except the parents were
kind of iffy.
But the funny thing about that is once the cameras were rolling is they were like,
jazz hands.
Yeah, they have to all shy at first.
I'm like, okay.
Yeah.
And they're totally like natural.
Like, they're the stars, I feel like it's parents.
It's always, I feel like it's always the unexpected family members who end up being like the stars of the show, especially with shows like E, like you get Kristen Cavalary doing her show and nobody would have expected Jay Cutler to be like this is the favorite and everybody loves him.
So it's probably going to be like one of your moms and we're all going to love him.
Totally.
Yeah.
Do you guys have a family member you think is going to?
stand out the most on this show?
I think
someone's humor is very unique
is her brother Joel.
He's very, what would you call it?
Quick-witted, sarcastic.
It's not dry, is it?
Yeah.
Yeah, he always has like a comeback.
That you're just like, oh my God, that was good.
Yeah.
That's hilarious.
He's just really funny.
Obviously, you know, now there's so many
reality shows out there.
How are you guys, what do you want to bring to your
show to make it different, make people see a different side?
I think it's cool that a lot of people, I think, will feel that we're relatable.
And I know that's kind of a word people throw out, but I really do think so.
For example, my parents are divorced.
Her parents are together for over 40 years.
You know, a lot of people have, you know, those scenarios.
And then we each have a gay brother, and you kind of follow some of their journey when
they're younger and even up to now.
I think too we're just like a lot of fun as a family like we're always like dying laughing like cameras around or not we're having so much fun and I think that's kind of the takeaways like that we have heart and you know want to have fun and hopefully it's like something a little bit lighter for people to watch instead of like typical reality TV where people are throwing drinks and stuff right obviously there's drama but it's like natural yeah that you have with your brothers or sisters with your more family drama because it's I think people are always thinking about when they see
girls on Instagram who have millions of followers.
They're like, wow, I wonder what their real life is like.
Because Instagram's Instagram and some of it's real.
So to see kind of the behind the scenes
would be really cool. But you guys are filming.
The show's mostly in Canada or mostly in L.A.?
Mostly in Canada.
Okay.
Yeah.
So visiting our family.
So different.
So what was that like? Because obviously you spent a lot of time filming there.
How did you balance work with filming the show?
It was a doozy.
You'll see. It was tricky.
It was very tricky.
I mean, we kept up with our Instagrams and our clothing line, and you follow that all the way throughout the show.
Yeah, we decided to put out our clothing line in Canada and do our, like, fashion show for the finale of the show, which was amazing to do it with all our family.
And they helped us put together everything from the runway to.
Yeah, it was good teamwork.
But yeah, it was kind of hard being there for a longer period of time.
But social media, you can always work.
you're in a way, you know what I mean?
Right. But do you have a favorite between Vancouver and L.A. For me.
Really?
I feel like they like resemble two different things.
You know, when you want to be like chill and zen and get away, then definitely Canada.
What's your favorite part about L.A.?
The weather.
The weather, obviously.
Vancouver's beautiful. Don't get me wrong, spring summer.
But then it gets gray and rainy.
And I get that like depression.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a real thing.
I really do get it.
So I'm just so grateful for the sun in L.A.
Just the blue sky.
Right.
You have to be hot.
But what's the best part about Vancouver?
Because obviously, L.A. is always, you know.
The fresh air.
Fresh air.
The food.
Yeah, the food.
Yeah, those are probably the top.
Yeah, I mean, it's just like, I've never been to Vancouver.
I've seen videos and pictures and whatnot.
And it looks absolutely stunning.
Like, it's visually so beautiful.
Yeah, it is.
So hopefully we get to see that.
on your show.
You see a lot of it.
That's, yeah, it's going to be very exciting.
You guys have been on reality TV before.
This is not your first show.
Done wags.
How different is this compared to doing wags?
But you're just completely different, you know,
because you're with girls that you don't know super well.
And then you go to our full-blown family, you know, you kind of, it's a lot easier to forget
that the cameras are there.
So we're a lot more transparent.
I think by default you get more out of everyone.
because you're so comfortable.
Right.
That's true.
Yeah, you're not thinking about what you're saying because you're saying it to your family members.
You never care what you said.
You can call me this side and that.
I don't care.
You're my sister.
You move on from it.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like when you fight with a friend, you go through like,
it's weird kind of.
Fight with your sister and it's like two hours later, your best friends.
Exactly.
Yeah.
All the time.
Did you feel like this show originated because you guys were on wags?
Do you think that had something to do with it?
or is it just because you guys have this crazy family and they love that?
I think it all tied in, yes.
I think we, on wags, we're ourselves and we're goofy.
Yeah, totally.
So I think we kind of became a little bit of fan favorite in a way.
So I think it was a no-brainer to add the family because we say we're the tame ones.
Like we're not even that.
It's true.
We're funny, but like wait until you meet everyone.
They're a riot.
Yeah, that's hilarious.
I love that because I feel like everybody.
that everybody wants their family to be on reality.
Always.
My family always is like, we need a show.
And I'm like, we think we're crazy, but like,
will the outside world?
Yeah, like, well, they think that everybody's family is like,
our family's nuts, but it takes like a special kind of family
to be on reality TV.
So that's definitely.
Very exciting.
Look, the formula is there.
The Kardashians have been doing it for so long and have been so successful.
You guys have been.
on the Kardashians, you were your friends with the family, you were just at the baby shower.
Is that just magical?
It looked magical.
It was.
It was so zen and dreamy.
Yeah, it was very relaxing.
What is it called C BD?
I always say it the wrong way, but yeah, it was so much fun.
It was amazing.
How did you guys become friends?
We have a mutual friend.
So when we first moved to L.A., we had a young makeup artist,
live with us from New York and he was doing our makeup and Kim, you know, he caught Kim's eye and he
started doing her makeup and he's now one of her full-time makeup artists and yeah, he introduced us.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Have you guys been to a Sunday service?
Yeah.
Yes.
Damn.
Vives, you guys.
What's it like?
Can we just like, if you could describe Sunday service in one word, how would you describe it?
I think mine would be vibes.
Vives.
I like that one.
One word.
I know.
You can give a few words.
The energy is so, like, the energy is amazing.
Friday energy, some might say.
Yeah, Friday.
Yes.
Friday energy.
Did they give you any advice for your show?
Not specifically.
Kim's just, like, so supportive.
Anytime we have any questions, we can just ask her and she's always so helpful.
Yeah.
Nice.
She's just the nice.
Yeah.
And like we said, you guys were on Wags before.
Is there something that you're taking that you learn from that show,
that you're going to take into this one.
I think the main thing was be yourself
because that's for the most part
what we did on Wags and obviously
it did okay because we're in the scenario
right now. So we definitely don't hold back
at all. And I think too, like when you film
your first new to filming you think, oh my gosh,
like I said this, I said that and people
write their comments and you think it's so
detrimental and then you realize it's really
not that big of a deal. So like going
into this one, it's even more like just
leave it all on the table. Yeah, I think that's
one thing that a lot of people struggle with, even we struggle with it, when you say something
and then one person has a problem with what you said and you think about that one person all day
and then you're like, that person's not thinking about me. Why am I thinking about this?
So you guys just brush it off. You don't care. That's great. Yeah. What's your social media
mentality? Like, do you guys look at any negative stuff or you do try and stay more positive?
I'm a fan of blocking words. Okay. Oh, you so do block people or just words? I always forget you can do that
I do the word.
I don't have to deal with it.
You don't see it.
Wasn't in your mind.
Wasn't your vibration.
And you go out with the day.
See, I'm going to write that one down.
I always forget to block the word.
That's so true because there's so many like key words that people use to just knock you down.
Yes.
You can never say this to me.
It's perfect.
I'm going to block like every negative word now.
It's a good idea.
I'm going to write that down.
Yeah.
I'm going to do it.
But obviously both of your social media followings are huge.
How did you guys get to that point?
A lot of people want to know this question.
It obviously takes a lot of, you know, creativity.
Yeah.
How do you guys think it happened for you guys?
You know, I think just authentically we were, you know, enjoying photography and taking pictures.
And it was kind of in the beginning stages of Instagram when not everyone was necessarily tagging what they were wearing or letting you know what products are using on their faces.
And we just made sure to do that when there wasn't a big group of people doing that, you know.
So we were kind of some of the first ones to do that.
And I think we caught traction that way.
Early on.
And yeah, I think before we were even on wigs had like a million followers, you know,
just from doing that, you know.
Before everybody was an Instagram model you guys were.
And the beauty game.
The beauty game helps so much, especially when you're giving tips and whatnot,
which you guys have always been really good with.
Yeah.
What are your, like when people ask you what your easiest beauty tips are,
What do you tell them?
I like laser facial.
I like live for them.
I try to get them once every like three weeks.
What does it do?
Just keeps you looking not like an old bag.
I mean, it does a bunch of different things.
What is the one we get?
PRP one.
Yeah.
How do you describe that one?
Just get it.
Yeah, it's like a microneedle thing and they draw your blood and spin in and pull the plasma.
and then pour the plasma into the little hole thing?
So you guys do that.
So you guys do that.
That's not scary.
No.
Well, now they don't do the blood so much anymore because they can separate it.
So you just get the clear stuff, all the good stuff.
So it's clear.
And what does your face look like after you do that?
It like peels for a few days, look like Freddy Kruger a little bit, and then you look amazing.
But it's plump.
It takes off all your dead skin, the new skin surfaces.
But I'm going to sound like my mom here, but I think the most important beauty thing,
is like sleep and drink a water.
You know what I mean?
Everybody says water.
Everybody says water and I'm like, I hate drinking water.
I hate drinking water.
And I just feel like I have to do it.
We have to.
And Olivia, I got to ask you because you're a blonde.
I know.
This is a new blonde.
Yeah.
And this is your hair.
You did this.
What was that process?
Because your hip was really dark before.
Yeah, it was really dark and really long.
I didn't even wear extensions.
So it was like way down here.
I've never had short hair
And I've never had this blonde at all
And I was just like, you know what?
New show, new vibes
I want to do something different
And I just decided to do it
And I booked it
I was in two days later
I got there at 10
I left at 6
Yeah
This is what came out
Wow, that's crazy
Whoever did it did a phenomenal job
Yeah
They killed it
It looks really great
And everybody loves a blonde
And a britt
Yeah
It's always a good vibe
for sure. But back to talking, you guys are obviously beauty community fashion designers. How do you
pick which brands you are going to advertise on your Instagram? Because right now, you see
everybody selling something. Right. Yeah. I think for us, it's really important to work with brands
that we actually really like. It's like if you weren't getting paid for this, would I honestly
wear this or do I really like it? You know, and that's kind of what we've been doing from the beginning.
I just don't want to promote anything I don't actually like.
Yeah, because your followers are trusting you.
So I don't want them to buy it and be like, this sucks, you know?
Yeah, yeah, totally.
So how we pick is just, yeah, we look at the product and like, do you like it?
Yeah, so I'll endorse it.
Do you guys follow along with the, like, beauty community drama on YouTube?
I did see what was going on.
James Charles and Tocet of Westbrook.
I'm not like totally dived in, but like I know what's going on.
That's crazy.
That's pretty crazy.
Is it losing followers and stuff?
Like, oh, my gosh.
Is it crazy behind the scenes?
I don't know if you guys would know this, but I'm curious.
With their scenario?
Yeah, like with the YouTube beauty community.
There's definitely like a community and like cleaks and all that stuff.
Yeah, it's 100%.
Yeah, that's wild.
It's a whole different.
It's a whole other game.
It is.
But think of it like high school though.
You know, you have like the tables or the groups.
Yeah.
It's kind of like that in a way.
You like to hope and think everyone's all together.
And sometimes they are.
But there's always some people that are.
There's always snakes and.
the grass. Yes. That's so funny. And so obviously you guys are putting your families on this show.
Are there any relationships on this show? Maybe something. Oh. Oh. Oh. We're definitely open and honest.
Yes. There definitely is some relationships you will see. Where they go, I don't know much. You got to tune in and watch.
Love that. Okay. Why is it like introducing somebody to your family on TV? It's the chopping block.
I mean, not even on TV.
I feel like our family is like a big panel of judges.
And it's like if anyone disapproves, if they rub one person wrong and they don't like,
you're like, well, I mean, come on, you can't.
You've got to be unanimous.
Yeah, it has to be unanimous across the board.
And that's for you too.
Like, if you really like this person, somebody in your family's like,
I smell the bullshit, then you're like, I got to cut this person off.
It depends who it is.
For the most part, though, I don't want someone, you know.
We're on the shopping block too.
give it to us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So how do you guys, do you guys actually look at your DMs?
Like if guys try and slide in, do you pay any attention to it?
Or is it, or do you try and meet people more organically?
Try organically is always bad.
But the last person I dated was a slider.
Yeah.
Oh.
He slid.
How do you, well, I mean, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, how do you weed through the DMs,
but I feel like there's some that pop out.
Well, and my defense is.
he knew like everyone than I knew.
It's weird we didn't even meet before.
So that's my little defense card.
That's totally fine.
I feel like that's fine.
I felt like we should.
I had a very similar situation where we had a conversation.
We're like, how have we never met before?
We have all the same friends.
Yes.
That's fair.
You don't use dating apps.
I've never done it once.
I haven't, but I would be curious to like.
It's fun just to look at sometimes.
I've never used one here to be honest.
Yeah, like the swipe thing.
You're just bored and like,
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's got to even sitting there like a judge.
It seems fun, but I can't use it.
Yeah.
But also, besides the show, you guys are working on your own businesses.
And you mentioned that you want to do a podcast.
Oh, you caught that.
I did catch that.
Do you think that we'll expect that at any time soon, or is it kind of on the back burner for now?
I think sooner than later, but I wouldn't say immediately soon.
Yeah.
You got a whole show to do first.
You got a whole show right now.
Yeah, exactly.
It was like we took a couple of meetings and stuff and went well and I think we're really
interested in doing that.
So how do you guys balance all this?
You have so much going on in your life like you have fun time?
No.
Yeah.
Is there a downtime?
You hang out?
Because social media doesn't stop.
I think so how do you disconnect?
That's been our biggest challenge lately is trying to find balance.
Like we'll look at each other and we'll be like, hey, we've got former things to do.
We look at the course.
clock and it's 1 a.m. and we're like, oh, well, we haven't even, like, watched a TV show or, like, you know, eating dinner.
We're like, okay, we need to find a way to manage this better, but it's hard. It's really hard.
Like you said, social media never turns up. I could work at any point. Right.
We all, like, could answer a DM or, you know, like. Right. And there's always something to see.
Oh, yeah. That's my biggest problem, like, going to sleep at night. I'm like, I feel like.
I'm a scroller. See, she's not. I give her a hard time. So for me, I have, like, a rule. I just
go on there for work and then
things that have inspired me a few pages
I'll like check out and then I get off but as far
as like getting into the whole like
actually looking at Instagram and checking out people
stuff I know the YouTube
drama. Damn that's very impressive. That is hard to
do. I am a huge scroller as well.
Late night scroller. Late night scrolls. I'll be in like the weirdest
hashtags at 1 a.m.
Dig D. We need to start like a support group.
Late night scrollers.
Yeah that actually could be its
hashtag and we'll put our own content.
There you go.
See, it never stops.
It never stops.
Well, guys, this has been a blast.
Thank you so much for joining us.
Relatively Nat and Live premieres June 2nd, 10 p.m. on E.
You're so excited.
Everybody check it out.
Thank you guys.
Thanks, thanks for having us.
All right, that wraps up.
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White.
It's perfect for the beach.
Summer, I know black hat can be tough.
So we made a white one.
There you go.
Now you have to have both of them.
There's really no way around it.
So make sure you check that link.
It'll also be in the podcast description.
Yep.
you have a fantastic day and we'll talk to you all on Thursday.
