Chicks in the Office - Charity Lawson Interview + Bachelorette Bios Breakdown

Episode Date: June 26, 2023

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. This is state of emergency. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Hopefully everyone had an amazing weekend leading up to this week. How are we feeling today?

Great. That's wonderful. I'm just ready to get this week over with Wow It's a great way to start the week It's a great outlook Just the week before vacation You know you just want to fucking knock this week out

It's like move at a rapid pace Let's get the show on the road Yeah it's like the last week of school Yeah like come on And it goes by extra slow Because you're just like watching the clock tick by And I couldn't sleep at all last night I like got my tummy hurt

I was toss it and turning Yeah I just couldn't sleep excited for the week I know I took, I had a couple of the lemmy sleep gummies last night, Divine. I actually feel like I have a very nice, very nice sleep. I've been taking the lemmy chill ones. Yeah.

And I took those last night. I didn't chill that much, though. I'm going to try the lemmy sleep one. No, the sleep ones are good. We had quite a trip back from L.A. that we have not talked about yet. No. That we posted about on our stories. Is there a dog barking in here?

That did sound like the dog is here. I know. There's some, that was a barking dog somewhere. Yeah, we had quite the trip back from L.A. We were supposed to be on a flight at 9 a.m. on Thursday morning. Sarah and Noah got on a 7 a.m. flight. Devin and Kelly Martin got on a. Red eye. Red eye Wednesday night. So me and you were on the 9 a.m. Thursday.

We thought it was perfect time. We'll get up. We'll go. We're about to leave for that 9 a.m. flight. Noah had to make it back. for the dead and co-show. Yes, he did. People were asking me on Instagram, they're like, how did Noah make it back before you guys?

It's like, well, our flight got delayed. It's not like we missed the flight and Noah made it. I was originally going to take the 9 a.m. I remember, and you guys were like, that's cutting it close. Thank God I didn't. Thank God. Yeah.

So we were delayed multiple times. Yeah. It was, you know, got pushed back to 230. We were like, all right, we could do that. We'll get breakfast. We'll go. We're on our way to the airport for the 230 takeoff. and Fran looks at me

and she's like and I'm like what? I saw the text before also like I don't know what system Delta uses sometimes but certain people like I got the text message before you I just didn't get the text message about the first delay so it was just like

even when you sign up for alerts it felt like they were all over the place so for that one we were in the car I got the text and you didn't so I just looked at you and was like you were like Oh, boy. It was a full gas.

We were like, oh, my God. And then we were dying laughing. We were like, no fucking way. I got pushed back to 545. We're like, are you fucking kidding me? And then right after that. So like, we're laughing pretty hard at this point because we're like, oh, of course. Right after that.

Maybe two minutes. I get a text that it's delayed till 10.30 at night. And this is the whole, it's like one person gets a text. One person doesn't. And I'm like, oh, my God. No, Fran. It got to late until 10.30. And we were just in pure shock that we couldn't stop laughing.

We have a red eye. Like all of a sudden it turned into a red eye. Thankfully, you know, like we were, we got to the airport. We sat there for like 20 minutes just to kind of gather ourselves and be like, is there a way for us to get on any other flight? No. Everything else was completely sold out. There was one seat.

We're on the phone with the people at work and there's like, there's one seat. and it's on a flight through Atlanta it leaves in 15 minutes. We were like, I don't think, one, we're not separating, two, neither of us are making this flight that's leaving in 15 minutes. We're in a completely different terminal.

Yeah, they're like, there's one seat on a flight that leaves in 15 minutes, and then there's one seat of a flight that's in two hours. And we were like, okay, so one of us just isn't making it home. One of us is not making the 15 minute.

We haven't even gone through security. It's leaving in 15 minutes. And we're in a different terminal, not going to happen. Yeah, so we just, we ubered back to the hotel and have it had a lovely afternoon, to be honest. It was very nice. We went out to dinner. We had a lovely dinner.

I highly recommend Saldi Girl L.A. if you're out there. I know so many people were like that it started in Boston. I was like, I know. I saw that it started in Boston. They said they got over that thing. And it's very East Coast vibes, which is why I liked it so much. It was so good. Amazing seafood.

We had really a lovely day. We sat by the pool. We got dinner, which was delicious. We had a few cocktails. It's exactly how I wanted to roll into LAX at 10 p.m. And then it got to late again. Got to lay a little bit more, yeah. And there ended up only being like,

I think the captain said 58 people at our place. It was supposed to be 200 and there was 58 people. Clearly a lot of other people made different plans. I felt bad for them because the captain was like, you know, we weren't planning on us and the crew We're not planning on working tonight. So it's like, you know, I'm sure they had the crew and the pilot for whatever the early flight was. And then when they time out, like they got to find new people.

And honestly, we don't really even really know what necessarily happened. We were just told that there was an unexpected mechanical issue. So it was like, okay, the plane broke or something. I don't know. They had to get a new plane. We know that because we were on a different plane. But we were just cracking up sitting at the gate because the guy. I felt so.

I mean, we were fine because we were in the airport for an hour. You know, there were people who showed up for the 9 a.m. flight who were stuck in the airport all day long. And we're waiting to get onto this flight. So I'm sure their attitude was not as great as ours. But the gate attendant was like, okay, everyone, we're going to start boarding shortly. The crew is here. The captain is here. They're on the plane.

We're ready to go. There's just a little issue with the jet bridge. We have a minor issue. But the way he just said little issue, he was like, there's just a little issue with the jet bridge. Well, we're going to, once that's fixed, you're on the way. I don't know what was going on. They also had to manually input all of our names into the system, which was hilarious. Like, it wasn't like you just scan your boarding pass and go.

We had to hold up our boarding pass. And one woman said our name out loud to another woman sitting at the computer. She had to type in our names and be like, okay, you're good. Which was a bad sign. We were like, oh, no, what kind of plane are we getting on that they have to manually? type in our names. Or they're really having some issues with the gate, which clearly they were because our gate changed 12 times. Yeah. And we were at the airport waiting and it got delayed again. And we see this gate change at least six times. Yeah. And we're like, this is not a good sign.

We are not taking off. We're not leaving. We're stuck here. Because when the gate is changing six times and you're already at the airport, it's a bad sign. We were worried. But we took off. Yeah, we made the most of it. Got home, freaking just exhausted all day Friday. I did nothing. I did absolutely nothing on Friday. It hit about 11 p.m. on Friday and I realized I just had not moved from like the same spot on my couch like all day. As we should though.

Like I got home around 7 a.m. and I got home. I showered because I had accidentally sprayed sunscreen in my ears. So much. So much. So we were going to the airport after we went to dinner, we went back to the hotel room. I was like, I'm going to slick back my hair for the plane. And I had been using your mini hairspray. And for some reason, I don't know. I don't know what happened. Okay. We were delusional. Yeah. I grabbed the mini sunscreen and I didn't even look down at it. And I was spraying it all in my hair. So much. And so much in my hair. In my head, I was thinking because I was in the bathroom, I couldn't visibly see you, but I could hear the noise. And I was like, what is she doing? Because it was like, it wasn't a hairspray noise.

It was like a squik, squik, squik. And I, so in my head I was like, did I use up all of her hairspray already? And I looked down the bottle and I was like, oh, sunscreen 30 SPF all in my hair. Disgusting. So I just stunk of sunscreen for hours because I didn't have enough time to. wash my hair get on the plane. We had to leave. We were literally walking out the door. Disgusting amount of sunscreen in my hair. And you know me, I take my hair very seriously.

I take my hair care very seriously. I was furiously Googling, is this sunscreen going to damage my hair? It's not. It's fine. It didn't. But I had to sit with that stink in my hair for hours. When I got home, I immediately scrubbed my head, like just, er, really got in there, freaking scrub the hell out of it. And then I was like, you know what? I'm going to blowdry my hair. Like I, I, you know, I was like, so many more steps than I took. Right. I was like, you know what, I'm going to make myself even feel even better right now because I know I'm about to have a fantastic sleep. I'm going to blow dry my hair. So when I wake up, my head not hurting from going to sleep with wet hair, because sometimes that happens to me.

bow-draud my hair went to sleep oh my god it was delightful didn't wake up to like 2 p.m and then I got my favorite chicken place my favorite chicken place in the world bob white seriously if there's a bobwhite around you I don't know where they exist I know there's one near me

it is the best chicken in the world in my opinion their barbecue chicken tender biscuit oh my god unbelievable and even better my favorite combo in the world is their honey mustard and their fries Their fries are like crispy and the perfect, just everything about them are so perfect with the honey mustard. I ate it all up. I ate it all up and now I want it again tonight because it's so fucking good.

Sounds so good. I mean, I'm almost embarrassed to tell you how much of a slab I was like. Why? Because I just didn't do anything. I stayed in the same clothes until like 11 p.m. on Friday. Wait, you didn't change from the plane? Nope. That's disgusting.

Same clothes all day long. I could never. I mean, I'm not going to not speak to you anymore, but I could never do that. I'm not like so gung-ho about the whole plain clothes thing. It just doesn't bother me. It bothers me. I have to take a shower basically as soon as I'm near the nearest shower after a plane. I have to take a shower and wash my clothes.

And that just may be a me problem. Yeah, it just does not bother me at all. I showered before I went back to bed again Friday night, but it was late. But that must have felt like a really good shower. Yeah, yeah. You got in your bed? Yeah. With the clothes that you wore on the plane? I took my pants off, but I kept my t-shirt on.

Crazy. That's wild. Listen, I'm not, like I said, I'm not going to be like, I'm never going to talk to you again. Look, some people that really grosses people out, I just don't care. Like, it's just clothes. Like, I, I wasn't sweating. I wasn't, I wasn't, like, dripping sweat and my clothes stink, like. You know? I just doesn't bother me.

But you had the whole flight. I don't know. I don't know. It's just engraved in my brain. What's happening on the plane that's making these clothes so disgusting? I just don't think that they really clean it like they say they do. Yeah, but what's the difference between like sitting in this chair? We don't clean these chairs.

But it's, I guess. Well, I don't get back into bed with these clothes on that I wear to work. When I go home, I change. Well, no, I do. Yes, that's true. I like have a thing about this stuff. Like I am... I really don't care that much.

Like, no. I can't get in... Because I shower in the morning, so I'm like, whatever. Right. Yeah. Same, but I can't get into bed with the same clothes I wore during the day. Like if I wouldn't be able to like go, like, come to work in this clothes. I mean, I normally do not do that.

And then get into bed and bed with these clothes on. I normally don't do that. I just was like a creature when I got into my apartment. And I just dropped my bags, took my pants off and got into bed. Mm-hmm. But then in what? one motion in one motion did you have a good sleep no yeah it's

amazing felt so good did get at some actual hours of sleep I went to this is totally changing the subject yeah but glad we don't have anything else really to say about our travels no no we made it home and and it was all fine and we made the most of it I looked at us at dinner I said I'm proud of us yeah you couldn't

find two more positive people about about getting their flight to late so much we had a good day Saturday I went to my house on Long Island And there's this I guess Carnival we called it a bazaar when I was younger I don't know why they called it a bizarre Just tried to be like a little different We didn't the school did

Yeah they called it a bizarre yeah But I think some do I don't know Yeah I mean I get what the I get what they were trying to say but I think most just go With carnival So I went and it was To the bazaar

The bizarre, but they changed it to Carnival now, which kind of upset me because we've always called it a bizarre. But it's at my elementary middle school. It's close to my house, walkable distance. So my sister was like, we should hit up the bazaar like we always do. Like, why not? They have this great game there. It's the quarter game. It's basically gambling, okay?

So there's like all these colors. You put quarters down. They roll the ball. Whatever, you win. We're like, yeah, you get Zepplies, fried Oreos, the whole she bang. We showed up absolute freak show at this place. Okay. It was a freak show.

Like the weird... Of adults or children? Everything was so strange about it. And we were so weirded out by every aspect. First of all, the quarter game wasn't there anymore. They took away most of the games, which was very upsetting. And just a lack of games in general, a lack of great rides, just a lack of everything. Sounds like they were like downgraded.

Yeah. Like it seems like they need help, which is probably mean of me to say. But I'm like, this is going down the tubes. They didn't have the fun thing this year. This carnival. Yeah. And we were like, oh my God, what a freak show this is. And so we were like, all right, we have to play at least one game before we leave.

And we choose a game. And it's me, my sister, my brother-in-law and Marty. And five kids. Like we're all lined up. And it's one of those horse races. games you have to like throw the ball and the horse whatever marty ends up winning and he's like the guy's like pick a stuffed animal and i'm like i don't even want to touch these stuffed animals this goes back to like the gross thing where i'm like oh like these stuffed animals are grossing me

out but i didn't like think enough in time to to be like give one of the stuffed animals to the kids because all the kids got up right away because they were pissed they lost so i had to pick a stuffed animal and I picked the worst stuffed animal you will ever see in your life and I don't even have a picture of it I'm gonna have to get this is I'm gonna have to I was like this is a little anticlimactic because I'm sorry I don't know what it looks like I'm gonna text my dad and ask for a picture the worst stuffed animal you'll ever see in your life the ugliest stuffed animal I've written it's big did you pick it because you felt bad for it I panicked my sister pointed Sometimes that's like, you feel bad for an inanimate object.

No, my sister pointed up and she was like, the dolphin's cute. And then the guy went to explain that it wasn't a dolphin. It's a different kind of fish. And then I just picked the one next to it because I was like, all right, he didn't want to give me that one. I was like, just give me the one. It was like a lemur. And it was just, it was the freakiest stuff. Damn.

Disgusting. And then we were like, let's get out of here. We're never returning back to this freak show ever again. So that was your last trip. That was our last trip. We have retired from going to our town fair, bizarre. It's done unless they do a revamping, which they need desperately. We're done.

We're retiring. And that was my weekend. I was at the beach, which was lovely. And Saturday, the weather wasn't too great, but Sunday was... Just making a phone call? Yeah. Hey, dad, are you home? Yeah, she's calling her dad.

Can you go into the basement and take a picture? Did you see that stuffed animal? if weird right can you go down and take a picture of it for me yeah please make it make it quick sorry friends yelling at me you make it quick okay thanks

all right love you bye I tell you tell my dad to make it quick the man he's got to get off the couch he's got you know I want to see that picture ASAP listen give him the man a break

okay but yeah That was my weekend, but you went to the beach? I went to the beach. It was lovely, and I don't have any other really commentary about it because it was just a very relaxing two days. Saturday. I said Saturday, iffy weather. But Sunday, beautiful.

Was it? I felt like the whole weekend was iffy weather. Every day leading up is iffy weather lately. You know where Joe's town is like a bubble. Even when it says it's going to rain all day, it doesn't. It's just one of those weird. places and so it was actually sunny the entire day and it was raining so many other places oh god it's like this ew why is it hot pink it's disgusting it's disgusting yeah it's yeah no i don't like him

at all or her mom and child i don't know what it has a little baby lemur attached to it too yeah it was the worst of animal i've ever gotten in my life when you said lemur i thought like it wouldn't be hot pink you know no a hot pink lemur with a striped black and white yeah White town. Yeah, no. No, no, no. Nope. It's a terrible, terrible pick. Disgusting. But yeah, you're right. The town he lives in is just always sunshine. There is. So Sunday, it was actually very, very nice. I am so excited this week because my cousin, Francesca, is coming on Wednesday. The other Francesca. The other Francesca is coming while you leave. But I'm so excited to see her. And I'm going to bring her to work on Thursday. Oh, that's fun. Bring your cousin to Work Day.

Yeah, it's Bring Your Cousin' Work Day. But we have a great guest on Thursday, and she's a big fan, but it's over Zoom. Yeah. And I was like, maybe we could throw you some headphones. Yeah, she can listen. Let's just listen in. But I'm excited for the week. Me too.

And The Bachelor is tonight. It's back. And we have charity on this episode. Yes. So we are going to do the Bachelor at Bios. We're going to talk about Taylor Swift, talking about John Mayer. And we're also going to talk about Lana Del Rey's little fuck up this weekend. So just a little fuck up.

Just a little minor issue. Just a little mechanical issue with the plane. So let's get into it. Starting off with the Bachelor of Bios. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Getting to know yourself is a lifelong process. This is because we are always changing and always growing. Therapy is all about deepening yourself awareness and self-understanding to help you discover your best self.

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office 10% off your first month. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we are back for another season of the bachelorette. Season 20 of the bachelorette. My dad said S. Frannie, was that quick enough? It was. Thank God. It was fast. I see, I know he's got it in him.

Yeah, he's quick with it. He's quick. Okay, we're back for season 20. It's kind of a big deal. You know, season 20 of the bachelorette. They made it to 20 seasons. And we have charity, which we're very excited out, interview with charity coming up, but let's go through these guys' bios. Yes, a lot of double names.

Going through it on my phone because I forgot my laptop today. Okay, so we got Aaron B. He's a 29-year-old software salesman from San Diego, off to a hot start with people from San Diego. I don't know how many will eventually have, but the count is officially at one person. It's easy to see what makes Aaron B such a great catch. His smile lights up every room he walks into and he wears his heart on his sleeve. Aaron B is passionate, understanding, patient, and his self-reclaimed,

hopeless romantic. Former football player When he isn't hustling at his job and software sales, he loves listening to Tyler the creator, reading James Patterson novels, and enjoying some delicious Cajun food. Airby taught himself how to play the violin and the piano. He eats peanut butter straight from the jar,

and he is a... Oh, sexophobic, aka scared of wasps. Pretty... Just say you're scared of wasps. All around, I know, but that's like... like, yeah, if you're arachnophobic, you know, it's like, could just say you're afraid of spiders. Yeah.

You just threw that term out there to show off. Don't you feel like she just threw that out there to show off? That's like the only one that I know. That's the only one that I know. Show off. Anyways, it's a good bio. He's afraid of wasps. But good bio. Standard.

I feel like this actually is a good. To love and make a wish. That's actually a very nice. It's a very nice bio. I like Aaron B. He's got a nice smile. Then we have Aaron S. Aaron S is a 33-year-old firefighter from San Diego. Two for two.

Oh, my God. Aaron 1 and Aaron 2. Aaron S is a real-life Superman. This dashing firefighter describes himself as a loving partner with the mysterious side. He's looking for a future wife who can help break through his tough exterior. He most admires his parents who gave him and his sister the mindset to believe that they could do anything. Even, oh, including cage diving with great white sharks. When he's not rooting for the 49ers, this outdoorsman is happiest on the water, surfing,

paddle boarding. He likes his Froyo delivered and well drop in headphones. Likes his froyo delivered and heavy on the toppings. His favorite holiday is anyone else's birthday and his favorite movie is Austin Powers. Groovy baby. I actually

says for that on the page. I just want to make sure it says groovy baby. I loved Austin Powers when I was younger. Yeah. I'll be honest I don't know if I've actually ever sat through a full Austin Powers movie. Like start to finish. Really? I've seen parts of every single one or like it's on TV and like I catch 45 minutes of it.

But I don't think I've ever sat down and said press play and watched a full awesome powers movie. Yeah, I'm not sure they. Because I still like I know the references, but I love a gold member. What's Beyonce's name in it? Foxy Cleopatra. I knew that awesome. Come on. That's my favorite one.

Okay, Aaron S. You know, what a selfless person in his favorite holiday is anyone else's birthday? Right. Or does he just love a good party? Yeah, that's right. That's, that's got to be it. Because I love other people's birthday too. I like other people's birthday more than mine.

Just love. Just love. Just love going to a party. There's less stressed when it's not your birthday. Right. That makes sense. Adrian, 33-year-old realtor from Northridge, California. What?

Rocky. It's right. Yo, Adrian. You needed a little bit more. Yeah, he didn't hit that. I didn't get the reference at first. Adrian. Yeah.

That one would have been fun of it. Remember at the live show where I tried to do an Al Pacino impression? It just, it was crickets. Like, I've never heard a live show that silent. What did he say again? I said, uh, I don't even know. I don't remember. It wasn't even worked. It was just like a sound.

Yeah. Yeah. Adrian is a single father with a big heart. This caring family man comes from a blended household with seven step siblings. He's a believer in true love and wants to find the right person by his side to build their empire, share experiences, and grow old together. He's most proud of his personal health journey. having recently undergone a huge fitness transformation,

and now as a personal trainer helping others reach their health goals. That's nice. In college, Adrian majored in criminal justice. If Adrian could have any job, he would be a culinary traveler, and he loves top golf. Hey, it's golf. It's not golf. It's top golf.

That's great. Everyone doesn't love top golf. I know. Culinary traveler sounds like a made-up thing, but also sounds like something that I would like to do. but that's just you travel and eat places. Yeah. But is he traveling specifically because the place has a good food?

I think so, Coeter, you're going off, you're basing it on food. Like a food critic. Yeah. That sounds like a fantastic job. Yeah, it does. It does. Another, so far I haven't really felt any red flags yet. Oh, my God, another.

Oh, wait, sorry. Braden, 24 real travelers from San Diego, California. I was just going to say another San Diego person. The count is three, people. Braden is a hardworking, romantic, and funny, as he is handsome. The travel nurse has big goals for his future but says there's one major piece missing from his life, a wife. Braden has been in serious relationships before but is excited about this unique opportunity to date charity. When Braden loves, he loves hard and is ready to put it all in the line to find his perfect match.

He loves a good cigar lounge. He's not into meditation and is looking for someone to teach him how to salsa dance. Now, I know we normally go off bios and try not critique these people's outer exterior, you know? I just, this guy just doesn't do it for me. Moore just says like, like, this guy just gives me a red flag just from his picture. Yeah, I know offense to him.

Like I said, I am judging a book by its cover at this point in time. He could prove me wrong. There's something about the necklace and the earrings that I really am not a feeling. I didn't even notice the earrings. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. And his name's Braden.

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's also, I think that also definitely comes into quiet here. I don't like meditation. Yeah. Oh, you meditate? But he loves to smoke a good cigar. Who needs meditation when you have cigars? Yeah.

My meditation is cigar. All right. Next up we have Caleb A. 29-year-old resident physician from Ann Arbor, Michigan. the doctor is in. Kayla Bay recently completed years of medical training and is ready to turn the page on a new chapter and focus on finding love.

Currently working 80 hours a week, he spends his days off unwinding on a hike, catching up with friends, or having a relaxed night in with a movie and takeout. He describes himself as dependable and a great listener who wants his partner to feel understood and supported. Outside of having family someday, his other dreams

include building his own house and owning a home studio to continue developing his hobbies of producing music and playing guitar. That's fun. He has a pet salamander that he refuses to name until the right one fits. He loves picnics and his guilty pleasure is trash pizza. Okay, so Caleb and I would get along because I also, that sounds like he probably likes Domino's. Yeah, you love Domino's.

And I like everything about Caleb as well. Doctor, good smile. Sounds like he's got a good head on his shoulder. Exactly. Except seems like he's indecisive because he can't name his pet salamander. I wonder what he calls him. Sammy. Sally, Sally the salamander.

Okay, now we have Caleb B. Two errands, two Caleb's. Caleb B is a 24-year-old pro wrestler from Orlando, Florida. Using the term pro very loosely. Caleb B might be a villain in the wrestling ring, but he couldn't be more of a softie in real life. The professional wrestler may seem tough, but he's a romantic guy who wears his heart on his sleeve.

Caleb B is extremely close with his family and is hoping to settle down and start a family of his very own. soon. Caleb B is the kind of guy who loves going above and beyond to make his partner feel special and one time even hand carved a heart necklace out of seashells for his someone. He can't control himself around donuts. He wants to get his paragliding certificate

certification. Makes a cowboy hat look good. He makes a cowboy hat look good. Sure. We'll be the judge of that when we stand with the cowboy hat on. I don't know. Not a fan of pro wrestling. How do you feel when people spell donuts like that?

Hate it. Why? Why are you doing that. What's the difference, really? They're trying to be unique. You could go D-O-N-U-T-S, donuts. But is this like the proper way to spell donuts because it's D-O, D-O-G-H, D-O-G-H? I guess so, but... Is donuts with D-O just because of Dunkin' Donuts? Like, is that why we think that's how you spell it? Probably.

I said I wasn't fan of pro wrestling. That's not true. I'm not a fan of this fake pro-wrestler. Mm, fair. Oh, yeah, D-O-N-O-N-N-P-E-Spelling. donut. I think it's a shortcut. Some dictionaries point out that donut DO is rarely used outside the U.S. That makes sense. Sometimes when I hear, when I see dough-nut, like, dough spelled out, I'm like, that can't be as good as a donut. A D-O.

Don't know. Wouldn't it make you think that, like, if I was just- They're too fancy. Yeah. You would think that it's dough and nuts. Like, I would think that it's just dough and nuts. That's not a crazy assumption. Doey-Nuts.

Yeah. Okay. Next we have Chris. He's a 27-year-old world record jumper from White Plains, New York. Hey, that can't be his job. That's Long Island. No, it's not. It's Westchester.

Westchester. Sorry. Chris is a man who lets his passions lead him. This former small-town football star is looking for the perfect leading lady to match his big ambitions. He'll do anything to be the best. And that's proven by his two Guinness World Records, one for highest-standing box jump, and the other for highest-standing backflip. Chris describes himself as a confident, committed, and passionate man who is looking for his ride or die.

If he could be a superhero, he would be the flash, so he could travel the world extremely quickly. His favorite sport is dunking. Clearly, if he can jump, he can dunk. Chris likes to go apple picking in the autumn, and he loves to drink wine and binge watch Grey's Anatomy. Let me tell you something. If he has the Guinness World Record for highest standing box jump, that's got to be extremely hot. Like, that's got to be so high. He has world record standing box jump.

I want to know how high it is. 67 inches? That's hard to visualize it. Six feet, six seven. Six feet seven inches he can jump standing and jumping to six feet seven inches. That's insane. His feet gets six feet off the ground. Yes, he's standing.

That's impossible. And he can jump. It's actually not because I saw a video of it, of him doing it. And he does it. Wait, what? Well, they, you know, make him jump. Will they make him jump? Oh.

He has too many aspirations for me. That's crazy. He wants to break too many records. That's ginormous. I don't see how that's possible. Six feet. I'm telling you it's possible. I saw it.

You can play the video of him doing it. I mean, let's just believe Frans. Yeah. I literally saw the video. I see this. And everybody else can also see the video. I'm sure we'll see it on the show. Yeah.

That is great. That is very high. Wow. Okay. So definitely just going to remember that. Dunking. Yeah. Yeah.

Why isn't he a professional basketball player if he can jump that high? He must not actually be able to play basketball, you know. He can dunk. Maybe there's other ways you can get involved. Okay. Next up we have Toton, D-O-T-U-N. 30-year-old integrative medicine specialist from Brooklyn. He is the full package and is so ready to find his person.

He comes from a big Nigerian-American family moved to the U.S. as a child. He describes himself as open-minded, full of love, and the best listener. He has his zest for life and even once went on a spontaneous 45-day trip around Europe. He's hoping his future wife has the same love for adventure and excitement for the little things like he does. He's terrible in movie trivia. He would love to be the head of the CIA. And interesting. he loves his air fryer.

You know, I don't have an air fryer, but I've thought about it recently. People really love their air friars. I have one. Do you use it? Occasionally. Yeah. Just feel like people really hype up their air friars, you know? Right.

Like, I guess I could do more with it if I wanted to, but I don't cook a lot of things that require the air friar or that I'm using the air friar. Like, I use the air friar if I have frozen chicken nuggets. You know what I mean? Yeah. Instead of a microwave. Yeah, it makes it crispy and fries. Yeah.

Microwave makes things soft. It's supposed to be like healthier too. Yeah. It's actually not healthy hair fryers. Well, it depends on what you put in there, obviously. Yeah, but. Yeah. He seems nice.

I like his, he's got a good pick too. Yeah, he does. He looks friendly. Yeah. Like a guy from Brooklyn would be a good fit for her. Okay, James. Do you think so? Yeah, I think so.

Because I kind of like the mix. of like Southern with somebody Northern if that makes sense, you know. James, 28 year old attorney from Chicago don't sue James for being a total dream. This charming attorney grew up on an

apple farm and describes himself as an inquisitive, determined, and passionate man who was looking for an outgoing future wife to travel the world and have shared experiences together. Honest, straightforward, in relationships he's known to write his leading romantic love letters. His idea of a perfect first date includes a trip to his family's farm

for a romantic picnic surrounded by blooming apple trees. James knows enough French to get himself in trouble. Oh, James, saucy. James is an Olivia Rodriguez stand and James has tried everything to convince his brother to get a tattoo with him

but he still won't budge. I don't like him as a 20-year-old being an Olivia Rodriguez Stan. Yeah. Is that ageist of you? It is. You know, in those. scenarios is probably like hey I really

like that song driver's license and they're like damn are you a stand are you an Olivia Rodriguez I don't know something like Olivia Rodriguez so young to me still yeah that is I mean she is but she is talented so can't knock him for being a fan um I meh

no offense to Joe yeah um he doesn't really sound like a total dream to me yeah Joe 32 his picture just screams like wallpaper yeah oh so it's probably as mean as a guest when it comes to looking at somebody's picture. Joe, 32-year-old tech operations director

from San Francisco, California. I almost said San Fran, but I know they don't like that. Joe is an adventurous guy with a calm, cool, and collected personality. He has worked hard to achieve his professional goals and travel the world, but he's ready to find someone with whom to enjoy the journey of life. Looking for a wife who loves trying new restaurants

and going hiking, hoping his future partner is responsible, self-aware, positive, and ambitious. While Joe takes his work in the tech industry, very seriously. He's also known to tear up the dance floor at EDM music festivals. Joe is a proud plant daddy. The best gift you can give Joe is a giant tub of peanut M&Ms.

Oh, no, you guys would not be friends. There's nothing you can do to convince Joe to go bungee jumping, not going to happen. I feel like the way that says not period, going to period, happen period, means that maybe he goes on a bungee jumping date at some point this season. And then he doesn't do it. Yeah. I'm picturing him doing the classic peanut M&M shake and pop. Yeah. Like this?

Yeah, yeah. Like you're throwing some dice? No, no. Like, it's like, it's the dad shake. The dad shake and pop to peanut M&Ms. I don't understand the reference. You don't know. What?

Like, I mean, are you just saying that's the way dad's eating it M&M or is this a specific dad? It's a universal experience. One time I tweeted out, you hand your dad a bowl of peanut emmins. M&Ms, what's he doing with them? And every reply was like, he's shaking them in his hands a little bit and popping them in his mouth. It's like a little like, yeah. It's a universal thing, I'm telling you. Now that you mention it, I do feel like my dad does it.

I remember this tweet vividly because I was like, I need to see if other people know what I'm talking about. All the replies are like, he's doing a little shake and popping them in. Next up we have Joey, a 27-year-old tennis bro from Hawaii. Love may mean nothing in tennis, but to Joey, it's everything. After graduation, this tennis pro quickly realized the corporate world wasn't for him and moved to Hawaii to live his passion of teaching his favorite sport. Spending his days on the court and evenings on the beach watching the sunset with friends, Joey's life is truly paradise. The only thing missing is someone with whom to share. It's with outgoing friendly and loyal, Joey's looking for a partner who can share in his love for adventure.

He's a diehard green Bay Packers fan. He's an avid stargazer, and his recent obsessions are golf and country music. Music sounds like a total... Is this guy from, like, Chicago? And I mean, he wouldn't be from Chicago if he's a diehard Green Bay Packers fan, but he just... Golf and country music just sounds like a...

An avid stargazer? An avid... Man, I just love me some golf and country music. Just move to Hawaii so he can be a tennis bro. I mean, I like his vibe. I will say, like, you know, living in Hawaii, I don't know how compatible with charity that would end up.

Maybe. Does he ever want to leave Hawaii? Right. No. I feel like Hawaii is such a beautiful place. It is, but it's far away. Not everybody can live that life.

All right. Next up we have John. He's a 27-year-old data scientist from New York. John is the perfect combination of looks and intelligent. He works as a data scientist and while John takes his career very seriously, he hopes his job can help him provide

for a wife and kids in the near future. When he isn't crunching numbers, he loves rereading the Harry Potter series, listening to Chelsea Cutler's music trying out new restaurants in New York City. He's also best known to bust out a dance move or two, having skillfully mastered all the latest

TikTok dance trends. That's a red flag. John has been to five out of the seven continents so far. He loves to treat himself with a well-crafted Negroni, and he listens to sad pop music at the gym. I think John and I would get along. I just picture him like learning TikTok dances on his own. You like Negronies.

I personally don't like ngronies, but the men in my life love ngronies. Yeah, yeah. That's what I, like, you know. Like my brother, my dad, Joe, they all love nagronies. Like, it's like, oh, you want a nagroni? Yeah, I'll make you a nagroni. Yeah, like, I personally don't drink them,

but that's another thing. And I, you know, he rereads Harry Potter, likes going to new restaurants in the city. Okay, John, we'll see. We'll see how that goes for you. Put your panties back on. You'll see. I mean, I don't know if I'm like dying over here.

He's no James Marston. John Henry, 30-year-old underwater welder from Virginia Beach, Virginia, underwater welder. John Henry is ready for love deeper than the ocean. While he's extremely passionate about his work as an underwater welder, John Henry has yet to find the spark of everlasting love. He's looking for a woman's trustworthy, adventurous, and has a good sense of humor. his dream is to take his future wife diving so hopefully charity is ready for some aquatic exploration when he's out working

he loves sitting in the gym and jamming out to ASAP Rocky John Henry shamelessly loves pumpkin spice lattes he prefers ornamental grasses over flowers and he's only seen 20 movies in his whole life what are ornamental grass grasses like potted grass

I think that's my guess oh Like if you get like Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like properly groomed and, I think. Properly groomed. Yeah. You know, it's like all, it's perfectly trimmed.

Yeah. And even. Yeah. And I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. John, what's an underwater welder? Like, like, when they build bridges and stuff and like, you need to go under water.

Like, under the water and, yeah. What a, like, that, that freaks me out. Yeah. Wow. Oh, it's. This guy's a man. Process of welding and elevated. Pressure is normally underwater.

I don't believe the 20 movie thing, by the way. He's only seen 20 movies. I feel like he was probably just like, I, you know, I've seen the same movies. Like you turn on a TV that's a movie on. Yeah, maybe he's never putting on a movie on. Maybe he's a TV show guy. Yeah, he's just never putting on movies. Clearly never putting on movies.

Okay, next we have Josh 28-year-old Harvard grad student from Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. To call Josh Selfless would be an understatement. He gave up a lucrative career on Wall Street and a... a grad program at Harvard to work for a nonprofit building international affordable housing. Okay, so it says his job is literally listed as Harvard grad student, but he gave up that to do work. So I feel like they could have given him a job description. That actually is what he's doing. He says he's happiest when knowing I've made someone else's day better, which includes his two younger brothers, whom he helped raise.

Josh isn't afraid to wear his heart in his sleeve and puts a lot of effort into romantic gestures. He comes from a tight-knit family and is ready to start a family of his own. When Josh isn't busy making the world a better place with his work, he loves playing board games and grabbing a drink at a speak-easy bar. After getting accepted into Harvard for a second time, oh, he went back, okay. Josh is ready to begin the next chapter of his life. He's camped in 27 national parks before he was six years old. His favorite holiday is Easter, and he loves the sunrise hike. Okay, so the guy loves being outdoors.

And favorite holiday is Easter thought it would have been Christmas since he's from Bethlehem. No. Nailed it. Nailed it. Classic. Easter's pretty far down on the list for me. It's like a kind of like a throwaway holiday. Like as a kid. It's fun.

No, it's awesome as a kid. Yeah. When you get older and there's like, you know, they take away the egg hunt from you and you're the one hiding the eggs instead of finding them. They never take the hunt away from me. Yeah. You stop getting, well, I don't know. My mom still likes to give us a little something on Easter. Do they hide your baskets?

No. My mom does. You still get an Easter basket? Yes, I do. Oh, well, that explains a lot. Caleb K, 26-year-old. I just said my mom still gives us a little something. No, but that's different.

Why? Why is that different? Because that's different. My siblings are both older than Noah. No, but gives you like a little gift. They're pretty Easter basketing. Oh, oh, that's different, too. She didn't this year, though, we weren't with it.

But last year ago. Sorry that my mom loves me. Caleb K, 26-year-old. construction salesman from Norcross, Georgia. Put him in, coach. This former Division 1 football player spent many years bettering himself and is ready to take the next step and find true love. As a loyal, caring and consistent partner, Caleb Kay will go the extra mile to appreciate his partner's passions. What is he passionate about? Pushing himself to be the best. With a blue belt and jiu jitsu, Caleb is excited to put his competitive edge to the test.

He's a fellow Auburn Tiger alum, so he may already have a leg up. He would love to coach high school football. He's personally offended by mayonnaise. He hopes to visit South Korea and learn more about his heritage. The people who are so anti-man mayonnaise grow up. I don't, man-aise is delicious. People are like,

eh, gross, this white, gooey substance. Manez is delicious. I bet you like white, gooey substances in other circumstances. I was hoping you weren't going to go in that direction. But, yes. And you know what? You have no problem swallowing white gooey substances at other points. All right. Okay.

mayonnaise I think is delicious so do I I love mannays you just maybe not like mayonnaise I know and that's how you ruin manas you know eating mannays it's like swallowing your own that's how you that's how you ruin mayonnaise for everybody thank you now I think I'm personally offended by mayonnaise um okay next sorry whoever I don't even remember his name Khalid a 28 year old tech recruiter from dearborn Michigan sweet souls ready to find the one comes from a big Muslim family and has seven siblings,

so hopefully charity is ready for some lively family dinners. When he isn't working, he loves hitting the gymming to Siza. The recruiter considers himself a romantic man, but doesn't show his romantic side to just anyone. He likes to read gaming magazines. If he could have any superpower, it would be the ability to teleport, and he would love to have his own farm someday. I also agree on the teleport thing.

That would also be my superhero choice. That would be amazing. I didn't even know gaming magazines existed. I didn't know that was a That was a thing Yeah, I'd like to take a look at one Yeah, okay So next we have

Michael So far I'm not being you know I'm not like wowed by anybody Michael 28 year old Maybe some of the guys at the beginning Michael 28 year old yacht captain From Chicago Illinois Oh hoie matey

Yeah when he's ready Michael is ready to set sail On his journey for love This yacht captain considers himself A romantic who puts time into the little things Often showering his partner With sentimental gifts He believes if a woman feels safe

and taken care of, the energy will be reciprocated tenfold. Although he grew up an only child, the Chicago-based charmer is also very family-oriented and wants to have a big family someday. When he's not working on his yacht, he's spending time with his beloved grandfather in the off-season. That's nice. Michael collects Cologne. Can't date you if you like mushrooms on your pizza.

And he loves a rain-water shower head. Sometimes I truly like, I'd love to sit in on these interviews. How do these things come up? You know, it's like, hey, do you prefer a tub, a shower? Specifically, what type of shower head do you like? What is a rainwater shower? The one that's above you, which I don't like. And I can understand why guys like them, but I don't like them because as somebody who doesn't wash their hair every day.

Yeah. But washes their body, it's hard to put your hair in a towel and then stand under the rainwater. And you're like kind of doing a back bend a little bit. I don't think I'd prefer, though. It's a whole situation. They had them in our hotel that we just stayed at. I feel like the water pressure's not as strong as... It's not.

It's not. And it just... You're like in the rain. You know what I mean? Like your face is getting hit. Yeah. I also don't like mushrooms on my pizza. I've never had mushrooms on my pizza, I don't think.

But I like mushrooms. I don't really like mushrooms. Oh, I love stuffed mushrooms. You ever have a good stuffed mushroom? Yeah, I don't like the texture of mushrooms. Oh. I love stuff mushrooms. Nick, 32-year-old HR executive from Bay,

on New Jersey. Reporting for Bachelorette duty, Nick is an army vet who's humble, loyal, and ready to find love. He's travel the world and is looking for a life partner to adventure with. He says he's looking for a relationship where he and his future wife can grow together and compliment each other's lifestyles. He also loves to cook

if he could cook a dream meal for any four people. He'd pick Keanu Reeves, Bill Burr, Taylor Swift, and obviously, charity. Five years from now, Nick wants to live in Shanghai. That's very specific. Why five years? His favorite

local eatery is Walmart and he's terrified of tigers. What? Lots to unpack in this. Yeah, local eatery being Walmart. Yeah. Was that mean he gets he just buys his groceries there? I do I do kind of

enjoy his choices for who he'd like to cook dinner. That would be an interesting dinner table. It would be. Keanu Reeves, Bill Burr-Tellers-Mist. Mysterious, fun, funny. Yeah. Okay. That's a lot. There's a lot to digest that for me. I think charity's going to want to live in Shanghai. I feel like it was one of those.

Where do you see yourself in five years? And he's like, I don't know, Shanghai. Yeah. I mean, that, you think that's what he is? I mean, he's probably still going on the Jersey Shore. The normal answer, yeah. Peter, 33-year-old airline pilot from New York. He is ready to find his co-pilot.

This commercial aviator has traveled. We have, please tell, I mean, another pilot Pete. We can't possibly have another pilot Pete. Pilot Peter. A highlight on a Peter. Or maybe this. Or maybe this is Pete the pilot. Peter describes himself as the life of the party

in hopes his future wife can match his positive energy. Peter considers himself a man of faith and truly believes that his future wife is out there. Peter is addicted to chapstick. He never loses a Mario Kart ever. He loves to play pickleball. He's going to say we'll be the judge of that. Yeah, we're pretty good at Mario Kart people.

Pilot Pete. You know that they did that on purpose too. Like, why would you? He sat in an audition He was like, I'm a pilot And they were like, you're hired And your name's Peter, you're in Done. We don't have to ask any further questions.

Lock it in. Lock it in. Okay. Next up we have Sean A 25-year-old software sales rep from Tampa, Florida who also used to be an intern at Barcelona Sports. Yes, he was an intern at Barcelona Sports. And so this is really one of the... Weird. We have it. Software sales rep, huh?

Yeah, I know, right? Like, that's where he went to? I will say that we never really have had somebody we have known beyond this show. So this is a little bizarre. Right. We used to see him around the office. He was in the office every day. Can't say we talk to him much. No, not much. But little background, Dave used to just call him hot Sean. Right. Just because Dave thought he was just like too attractive to be working here. And now he's on

the Bachelorette. So Sean is really someone special with, wow, with gorgeous blue eyes, a great career and an adorable French bulldog. This guy has it all. When do you get the dog? I don't know. That must be a new thing. The only thing Sean is missing from his life is a wife. And he says, I'm just looking for the girl of my dreams to share my life with. The software salesman has worked hard in his career and even just bought his very first house.

What? My God. He's excited about the possibility of bringing charity home and starting their lives together. I know. Clearly living a different life down there in Tampa. He's a full adult. Yeah. He really, he saw Marshall Sports said, this is not for me.

Yeah, I want to be grown. Sean is self-admidly a terrible texter. He likes to dip his chocolate chip cookies in whole milk, and he takes pride in his great head of hair. Yeah, we know that I think he might be a little self-absorbed. I think so, too, and you know what? I think he wants to be famous. I don't think that's a heart, I don't think that's a crazy

because he wants, he was an intern at Marcell Sports. Yeah, and now he's... Yeah, and I always felt like he liked having the camera on him. Yeah, I'm hot Sean. He didn't, yeah, he didn't like not like Dave calling him hot shot yeah exactly i mean that's who's not gonna you know what i mean yeah i mean some guys would probably get embarrassed by that but he was like yeah i'm hot shot all right sean we got our eyes on you buddy spencer 32 year old medical sales director from moore park california this single dad's got

humor in heart as a father to a young son spencer brings a lot of life experience to the table including having the courage to change careers and pursue his master's degree when he's not talking to medical professionals in his sales job spencer enjoys riding his bike along the ocean his ideal date would be going on a hike through the orange groves outside of his hometown, Moore Park. Spencer's hero is Anthony Bourdain. He loves to read Jack Hurwack novels. Spencer dreams of running for a political office one day to help his community. Okay.

A little, uh, boring. Nothing really crazy there, I would say. Tanner, 30-year-old mortgage lender from Pittsburgh. Tanner is 100% husband material. This fitness instructor is extremely. close with his family, not as many fitness instructors this season, but he's also a mortgage under

with his family and hopes to find a relationship as special as the one his parents have. While growing up Tanner and his family rescued over 50 dogs, oh wow. And he hopes to rescue more with his future wife. Charity, hopefully, are ready for some puppy love. Tanner is truly looking for his forever partner and says that he thinks about finding love all the time.

Anywhere with the golden retriever is Tanner's happy place. Tanner's number one enemy is a messy kitchen, and he loves giving high fives. Yeah. All right, high five guy. Up here, up here, pal. Come on, where's my high five? Yeah.

He honestly, he had me until we got to Love's Giving High Fives. I feel like you just don't want to be like the high five guy. It's just like, what do you get out of a high, I mean like. Clearly it brings him joy, you know? I also hate a messy kitchen. Yeah, so much. Taylor, 32-year-old loan officer from Springboro.

Ohio. Taylor's got class clown energy. This endearing self-described goofball is going to give everything he's got for love. As a partner, Taylor is a trusting guy who was confidence that he'll find the right person someday even though he may not always go above and beyond with romantic gestures. He will surprise

his partner with breakfast and bed or a cup of coffee before she wakes up. After work, he can be found taking his miniature schnauzer, Alfred, for a walk. Taylor takes forever to fold his laundry. Taylor follows the Renaissance What? Renaissance periodization diet. It's all about macros, baby.

Taylor likes music you can bump and grind to. What the hell does that mean? You just eats like a lot of meat? I guess. I'm stuck on the... Renaissance period. Periodization diet. Bump and grind to.

Okay. Okay, Taylor. You know, I will say as far as I truly universally love most dogs. Schnauzers. Don't... I don't even know if I could picture with it. They don't do it for me. They got that face.

I just don't like that cut. Yeah, they're haircut. You know? It's the traditional... They have an interesting haircut. That's the traditional haircut for schnauzers, which I don't love. On any dog, really. We had a wheat and terror growing up.

They were also supposed to have that kind of haircut. We never cut her hair like that. This is their high maintenance, too. Yeah, they are. Warwick, 27-year-old construction manager from Nashville, Tennessee. Warwick describes himself as loyal, kind, and adorably awkward. While he may be a bit of an overthinker, once Warwick is comfortable, he's got a lot of love to give.

He's very close with his family and his mom's Japanese roots are extremely important to him. He's been to Japan multiple times and even understands Japanese. His dream date is grabbing a romantic dinner and then going to see a play. He is excited for the chance to fall in love again and can't wait for his bachelor's journey to begin. He is a rule follower. He likes Legos and he dreams of going to an English Premier League game. You feel like you like this guy. I do.

And his picture kind of gives me like Disney Channel vibes. Like he just popped out. from behind a door. Hey, what's that? Yeah, I'm here. You know, that kind of, that kind of situation. Nashville, also a very popular

Bachelor, Bachelorette world destination. Okay, we have one left, and that is Xavier. He's a 27-year-old bio-medical scientist from Carboro, North Carolina. Xavier is one tall glass of water. The 6-foot-6-inch, whoa, Chris can jump higher than him.

Oh, my gosh. The six-foot-six scientific researcher has also got the smarts and charisma to match. In a relationship, Xavier will shower his partner with compliments because he generally wants to see his future wife happy. His parents have been happily married for 30 years, embodied the type of relationship he wants to find. He says the most, he, um, Xavier says he most admires his mom and wants to find a partner who can give their children the kind of love he received as a kid. He enjoys knitting. He built his own computer for playing video games and his ideal first date is skydiving. He seems like a well-rounded guy.

He seems super sweet. I just, you know, first date skydiving, that's too much. Oh, yeah. How about a nice... How about a nice glass of wine and a... Right, get a drink. And a meal. Or maybe a meal.

Skydiving is just too much. Talk about throwing yourself into the deep end, though. You really see how somebody handles like a high-stress environment. I feel like that's a start to like a toxic relationship. Like, let's go skydiving. And then every date after that, you have to do something more extreme. Everything has to be totally over the top. Yeah.

Like anything normal just becomes boring. Right. Yeah. It's a dangerous line. It is. Okay. That wraps up for everybody. I will say, seems like a great group of guys.

I didn't really see anybody that I was like, ugh. The only one that I felt like I kind of got the ick from right off. The bat was Brighton. Yeah, because we'll see how that goes. Yeah. And I didn't really like pro wrestler guy, Caleb. Yeah. Caleb B.

But they said he's soft on the outside, so I can imagine he's going to end up being like a really nice guy. Yeah, soft on the inside. Soft on the inside, sorry. Villain on the outside. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Crunchy on the outside. Yeah, but looks great in a campaign.

Okay, that wraps it up for all the guys. We're excited to see how they survive, night one. Yeah, and cutting stems is back tonight. It is. So look for that on the chicks in the office YouTube. No trend, but we'll be here. He's sadly not here, but it'll be us and Kelly. So that'll be fun.

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I'm not re-releasing this album so that you guys can go on and defend me against somebody from something that happened when I was 19. Like, I don't care about something that happened when I'm 19. We're good. We're good.

I doubt anybody's going to listen, though, because his comments were still flooded with, they won't listen. With, you know, she was too young, like all this stuff. And, like, Taylor's like, no, don't do it. But he's, they're still doing it. I also think, Dear John is such a great song that people just really hold on to, like, the lyrics because they just really like the song so much. Even Taylor was like, I'm going to play the song. It's not because, like, I'm still. living this. It's because I'm very proud

of this song, which she should be. I was so jealous. I will say that night, Minneapolis, two great songs, Dear John and Daylight, phenomenal. Up there with Getaway Carameroon, I will say, for sure. Because Dear John's the one that you're like, is she gonna go near this?

And she did, but I thought she strategically did it in a smart way. Because it's like, speak now is coming back out. We only got a few more weeks. Literally one, like a week and a half until it comes back out. and in her mind it's like, okay, let's warm them up, right? We're going to do this, but I'm going to talk about Dear John a little bit

because I know when I re-release this, everybody is going to go to war for me again, which clearly she, you know, she's up there saying you don't need to do that. We've all moved on. But they still do it. But why do they still do it? It's like, don't, come on, guys, don't do it. Why do they?

No, I do it. Yeah. Because she's saying don't do it. I know, they still do it. They can't. It's the same as like Selena fans when it's when Selena's like, hey, please be nice. And they're like, no. Right.

We will continue to defend you. Do you think there's part of Taylor where she's like smirking a little bit? She's like, I told them not to him. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah, I mean, like if I'm Taylor in that situation, you're like, look, I did, I did what I had to do. I said it. And now's that out of my control.

My hands are cleaned. People were saying like, oh yeah, like she said, it's been so long, but she put out a song like last year about him. Yeah, but it was, that was like a bonus song. But it's about him. Could it would have shudder or whatever. Yeah, but that doesn't mean, like, I don't know. I find that it wasn't necessarily coming at him. I still think she should still be allowed to write a song about.

Yeah, yeah. But if you're still writing songs about him, then maybe you do care. Maybe. I just think she likes, you know, she writes songs about her own experiences. Reflect on your life and maybe you don't care anymore, but it's still something that happens. You're like, this would be a good song to write about because I'm reflecting. But like, do I actually care of my day-to-day life? No. And like it's not like she's writing this song thinking I'm writing this because I know it'll get everybody to fucking hate this guy and like go after him.

I don't really think that. Listen, he still has fans. He still has people shown up to his concerts. Exactly. He had a beautiful weekend. Trust me. He's doing a bunch of, you know, Dead and Co. last towards he's almost done with it but how's his back he he seemed fine he was standing on Thursday really he said he was gonna sit he sat for the second half of that night before and then I don't know he must have taken some pills or something yes yeah maybe got some chiropractic

I tell you something those shows scare the shit out of me it's a little overwhelming I just some creatures running around I truly like I am I'm too easily rattled by my surroundings uh huh and I know like if I was in that environment I just would need to leave like it would scare me I had I had a friend who was there she posted on her Instagram story and it was during the like and I was talking to my friends who were all there

they were like oh we can't we don't like that part because when they do the drums the space and everything and she was on the floor and there's just you know these people that are like chanting and dancing and we're going in circles I'm like this is witchcraft

yeah like this is scares me. I would need to be removed from the premises. And everybody's on drugs. There's some severely unpredictable behavior. You just don't know. I feel like somebody could just jump out and try and bite you or something.

Right. No, I agree. This has happened to me more as I get older. Is that I used to not be so aware, like not aware of my surroundings, but I used to not really care. Now I am overly aware of my surroundings at all times. and if I get overwhelmed Like I went to Broadway in Nashville

In October when I was there for the wedding And we went, it was Halloween night And after the wedding we went down to Broadway And I was on that street for five minutes And I said we have to get out of here Because I have a bad feeling about this Like just looking around At all of the people running around

And their costumes drunk on Broadway I'm like something bad's gonna happen And I need to get out of here No, I know Just overly aware of my surroundings I know I like to be safe Same. I just way too much out of my out of my comfort zone for sure. But yes, I will say honestly,

congrats to the people of Minneapolis who got Dear John in daylight. Truly, that's top notch. Yeah, I saw a lot of surprise songs go. Jokes being like, all right, the rest of the tour is canceled. I know, I know. I'm so excited for Speak Now to come out. I can't. Wait. I really just, you know, 1989, really just waiting for 1989. I don't. I love, speak now. I just, I love so much. much. I'm very excited. I have pre-ordered the vinyl as she posted like the purple one. I'm excited for that to come. And you do have your player. I do. Yeah. All right, moving on last topic. You brought this up to me. Yeah, this was wild. So Glastonbury was this weekend, big music festival. Literally, I don't know the exact number of people that go, but it looks like a million.

Anytime you see those crowds, it's unbelievable. It looks like so many fucking people. I think it's one of the biggest music festivals that exists. Lana Del Rey was up there, like, headliner performance this weekend. And I believe, today's Monday. So was it Saturday or Sunday night? Saturday night. Saturday night, she was supposed to go on. I believe it like, you know, 10.30 p.m.ish. She, and then there's like a hard stop at midnight.

It's like that's it, sound, everything has to be shut down, hard stop. She comes out 30 minutes late. The people are going crazy. She comes out 30 minutes late. She says, she does this little speech where she's like, I'm so sorry. I'm going to have to rush through my set because my hair takes long to do my hair. and everyone was like you could hear the crowd be like what this is what she said she goes she said

I was so fucking late that I'm about to rush this set to death if they cut power I'm super fucking sorry my hair takes so long to do let's keep on running the set as it's supposed to go so she does what she can really like she takes up the time that she has and then of course they they cut the time they cut her off completely her mic got cut off she was singing video games the rest of the crowd started to sing video games because her mic

was off so everyone in the crowd is singing video games and then there's a video of her that she's just nicely being escorted off the stage they're like ma'am your set is over like it's you can't you can't like we need everybody to leave now so you can't just like stay

on stage and make everybody else sing your songs because you were late to your set it's kind of a waste of her hair taking that long Right? Like she took that long to do her hair to play a shorter set. Now everyone doesn't get to see your hair for as long. I know.

I know. Start your hair earlier, Lana. I know. And it's literally a headlining performance. Like, I would be so furious if I was a massive Lana fan. And I traveled to fucking Glastonbury for this. Like, wait all day. Wait all day.

And then she goes on stage and is like, sorry, my hair took too long. I'd be like, just fucking go out on stage when the time, or it's like, you. like, you know, if you know you have to be off the stage at midnight, exactly, you have to get out there. If you know you have a hard stop, it's not like, oh, I'm a little late, but we'll just go a half hour later. It's okay. No, if you have a hard stop, get your ass out there. Yeah, it's crazy when artists do that. Like, like you said, if you can go later, then go later. Yeah. I think that's okay. I think it's so rude when they know they have to be off stage and they're like, sorry. I know. I know

just like a lack of consideration or at least like you know I respect the honesty but also make something up I mean also at the same time though at least she was honest I was like that my hair takes a long time I was like look my hair wasn't done

I couldn't come down here you got to get a faster hairstylist or start earlier yeah yeah I don't think the I don't think the fans are too happy it was a mixed reaction of sorts because of course some people are obviously like oh you know we're happy to

her we love her so much but you're wondering hey what would that last half hour been like so you can fit a lot of songs in that amount of time so one can dream yeah yeah i thought that was i thought that was kind of nuts it was nuts and i think that wraps up the topics but we're going to get into our interview with charity everyone thinks about that day that they'll eventually get to retire and enjoy all the freedom that comes with it but who says we have to wait decades before we get to kick back and chill out take advantage of that free will and spend the summer chill in like a retiree and pair those moments with Coors Light the beer that's made to chill.

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Cheers. Thank you guys. The world's most refreshing podcast. Yes. All right, everyone, we are here with a very special. guest, we are joined by the lovely Charity Lawson, the newest Bachelorette who season premieres

tonight. She's looking absolutely stunning, gorgeous, ready for the season. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you guys for having me. I'm so excited to be here. You look every bit apart. The dress I'm taking a back. I'm absolutely stunning. Thank you. Thank you. How are you

feeling? It's here. Finally, I know you have to wait months and months for everybody to watch it. Excited. or kind of like, uh-oh. It's everything. I mean, truly. It's excitement. But like as, you know, knowing it's tonight, like I'm so anxious.

I'm anxious just because I know honestly everything that happened. So now it's like, okay, what's going to make air? And just honestly, how everyone's going to react to it. Like, that's a lot. It's a lot weighing on me. But I'm so, so excited for you guys to see. Now we ask every bachelor and bachelor at this question. Yeah.

What is the biggest misconception you had going into the show? What surprised you the most? Because I feel like you have an idea going into it and then it's just a whirlwind. I think like when I accepted like the role of like Bachelor, I was like, oh, like this is going to be so easy. Just considering like obviously my time on exact season, I was like, okay, like this isn't like as crazy as it is. But like times 20. Like it's, I'm sorry, but it's hell. Like it's actual hell trying to navigate like so many like different relationships.

and then obviously they're all very different, but, like, ultimately, I'm no, like, I'm here for a purpose. So it's like I have to, like, figure out what's best for me. And that's so hard, like, so hard. So I think people, like, may have an idea of, like, how this all works, but, like, truly, like, no one understands it until you, like, are actually in the trenches. Fully living it and also being on the opposite side. Oh, for sure.

Because when you're a contestant, it's way different than being the lead. You have to handle the conversations. You have to remember everybody's name. Yeah. I was, like, having my little flash card. Yeah. Now, because you get to the way, you know, and normally they do it this way, sometimes they don't, but normally it's, you know, they pick somebody that was on The Bachelor and they get to be the next big star.

Did you feel like you knew how you felt on the contestant side? Was there anything that you went into being the Bachelorette as like, I'm going to make sure I do this? That's a good question. I think like I noticed like while I was filming like I was trying to like reassure the guys a lot like about like the process of it like I hate using that word but like truly that's what it is. Guys trust the process. Yeah like you'll notice like I don't know like obviously it won't be shown but like a lot of guys really confided with like the whole like logistics of like you know just the cameras and stuff and like me trying to like assure them that like okay like you just have to get to a place where like that doesn't matter and I felt myself. doing that so much. So like obviously like being a contestant, like I know how it is. And like you get to, once you get to a certain mark, like all that like doesn't really matter anymore.

And I was just like, hang on. Like I'm trying to like beg them. I'm like hang on. But yeah, some of them like it just gets caught up. So yeah. Right. Besides obviously finding the love of your life, what was one goal that you went into this season having? I really wanted to grow in like my ability to be like more decisive. So I really really. struggle a lot with like indecisiveness and so I was like this shit's about to get into the especially here they're like you better picking shoes right now it's like ridiculous in this situation yeah rose ceremonies are like difficult for me um yeah I mean it's just hard it's like hard making decision especially like I'm like an impasse so I could connect with people like really

heavily early on I just feel for like people's emotions so yeah like me learning to just make decisions and like sticking to them do you second guess a lot yeah but like it's so crazy because I don't think I don't think I do that that much this season. So like that's like a refreshing thing and like a change that I saw myself. So yeah, that's great. So what is the big plan for watching episode one? Who do you want to watch? Who are you watching with? Yeah. I plan on surrounding myself with friends and family. Obviously. And so having like my support system I think will just be helpful because like I said I know how all of it like plays out but it's just going to be so weird watching it bad. You plan on watching every single episode? Oh for sure. Yeah. I mean I feel like there's no way you can. It's

appointment television for anybody, everybody anyway like everybody, the live tweeting, there's like a whole aspect to it. Yeah. But I just, it must be crazy that you, you know, you have this major secret of basically the entire season. I know. Who have you told? For months already. For months. Who have you told how it happened? Can you tell anybody? Yeah, so the thing is, like, I only am allowed to, like, tell my family, obviously, because, like, they were there. So that's it. Do they have to sign something?

Uh-huh. But, yeah. Why was I surprised by that? Obviously. It's just their given word. Only family knows, which is, like, insane. Because, like, obviously, like, I'm really close with the girls from last season. They're, like, at my throats, trying to find out.

I think some of them think they know. They don't. Yeah. So, yeah, it's like really hard. But I think it'll start, hopefully it'll be people will start like guessing as this season. Do you think that you'll be the type of Bachelorette that joins in on like the social media craze of it all? Or are you kind of just going to like sit back, watch, see what happens? Because I think there's both.

And I love a mixture of the two. You know, Gabby Wendy is so great. And she's one of our favorites. And I think it was so funny when when she would like tweet something about the, you know. or when Matt James with the kissing with the eyes open, there's some awareness there. Then I also understand not wanting to say anything. See, that's the thing.

It's like I'm like a 50-50. Like very much like I can be sassy or like have fun with like clapping back and like trolling people. But then also it's like I know like once this really does come out, it's like there's a level of like privacy or just like, you know, I don't want to have to like respond or like have to always actively be on social media. So I don't know. Who knows? But I did like promise some people that I would live tweet.

So we'll see how interesting that case. You mentioned an interesting point. When you open the floodgates, then people expect more. And like if they know you're not the type to respond to everything, they won't expect you to be on it as much. But when they're like, oh, my God, she responds to this. Now I'll say this to her and say that. So I'm like not trying to do that because I will go back.

I'm like, I wouldn't be that girl. And we, you know, we've known that you are the Bachelorette for months now. How has the response on social media been for you? like since the announcement, obviously you were filming the show for a large portion of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you're back. Yeah, like I got shifted away pretty quickly. Yeah.

So I didn't really get to soak it all in. But once I got back, like, it was honestly refreshing to see, like, how much, like, outpour, like, people really had in response to it. Because, you know, it's always a hit or miss. And then I'm sure, like, I'm not going to be, like, someone's first choice. And that's okay. But for the most part, like, just, I think a lot of people were really. in support of like me being the bachelor, which made me feel really good.

And it was like, it was nice to see. Nice to see once I got back. Now, we don't usually talk about this and I don't know why, but, you know, no, it's, it's very easy. But the fashion, you know, I feel like we don't really discuss that. And when you walked in, like, my jaw dropped at your dress. I feel like you have such amazing style. Oh, thank you.

Did you really try to implement your style during this season? Did you have a lot of input? Because I never know when it comes to that. 1,000%. that was like on my radar like when I was like naturally I was like oh the outfits like what is going to happen

and I remember like obviously like watching Gabby and Rachel's season there was some things I was like I just don't know if like I would ever wear that but I was like that's their style and so I wanted to see how much I was like going to give like our half full autonomy to like be able to say what I wanted

to do which was the case and I definitely was like really hands on very vocal about what I did like what I didn't like so you'll see some like iconic looks that I'm really excited for. That's got to be such a fun part of it. You know, like, kind of a break from all the stress is like,

oh, who doesn't love picking out clothes and outfits? That's like, yeah, as tired as I am, like waking up in the morning. I was like, okay, I get to wear like my favorite, like one of my favorite outfits. Right, I know, I know. And it's funny because it is like, it feels like a superficial element of being the bachelor, but also one of like the best perks of being the bachelette. It's like you really get to live out, I think, a lot of dreams you have of, like, wearing some maybe like some princess, like gown on a date or something crazy.

How would you describe your personal style? I would say it's very, like, chic, but also, like, I have, like, this element of, like, glam to it, but it's not, like, you know, glitzy glam. It's just, like, a little heightened. And I don't know if that's, like, the Southern in me. Like, we just love to do things, like, kind of big. Put it up and not. Yeah, just a little bit. But, like, chic and glam.

Yeah, definitely. I love it. I can't wait to see those looks. Yeah. I want to learn a little bit more. about you, you know, because I feel like everybody jumps right into the show and it's just like, here is Charity.

She's the Bachelorette. But what Charity, the person, give us a little background, bio. Because people, we see it written out, but we get to hear. And I'm sure we will in the show for your season, but when you're a contestant, you don't get to share that stuff. I want to go, as

you talk about it, I want to go back and find your contestant bio. And see how much it matches. I want it. I want to I actually want you to bring that out right now because I'm pretty sure there's one thing I actually need to address. Either was it the buy from last year or this year. This year it's also probably not fully accurate. It's okay. Let's see.

Describe yourself as I look for this because I'm always going to take it. I have to go to the ABC website. Obviously, Turity, me. I hate talking about the first of charity me. I am from the south. So originally from Columbus, Georgia, which is a small southern. city. I would classify myself as like a small town girl, I guess. I don't know. But grew up there primarily, majority of my life. I'm the youngest of three, or four of us, there's four total,

youngest of three siblings and the baby. So that definitely makes me a little spoiled. You'll see that. But really close with my brother, Nehemiah, who gets his little debut on this show too. But we're super close. Talked about my parents a lot. My parents. are, we're married for like so long 48 years, and I look up to them a lot. My dad was in the military, so we kind of like, before we like stayed in Columbus, we moved around a lot. But once I got here, went to like really big schools, like, you know, top tier schools. Education was like so, like, hit on for, like, my parents for us. And so went to, like, really good schools, ended up going to Auburn, which is obviously a really big school as well.

I had a great college experience. Met some of my best friends from there. Navigated, like, crazy relationships. My interest would be, like, football, I guess. Yeah. I wouldn't say. I'm a big football person. Love shopping.

Exercising mental health. That's, like, my things. I'm trying to think. Yeah. I'm bad. I have bad. I have a lot. I'm so bad.

No, I mean, you really gave us all. I know. I know. I got this down. I want to go back and talk about other things too, but let's, what is... It says it's easy to see what makes Charity such a great catch. With a smile that lights up the room, a great career, and a sweet personality to match. Charity is the total package.

The Georgia Beauty takes her name as a call to love and care for people and has built her life on that purpose. Charity is a mental health therapist and is extremely passionate about helping people live their best lives. Now she's ready to receive the love she gives to so many others. Charity hopes her future husband is honest, loyal, and shares similar morals. I will cut out the stuff about Zach Fun facts Charity's all-time favorite movie is the notebook Charity wants to move to Walt Disney World one day

That's not true I was going to call you out for that and be like Don't tell me you're somebody who wants to live in Disney Because we love Disney We were like a Disney adult Let's clear the air now Like okay so I don't know When I like saw my initial bio for last season

I saw that and I was like I don't remember ever saying that. Like, I never, like, truly said I want to live in Disney World. So, they probably asked me, like, have you been before? I'm like, yeah. And so it's like taking... I love it so much I live there. Literally.

It's like, I wish I could live there for a day. Take one sentence and makes it like your whole personality trait. I'm like, no, that I never said that. Like, how often have you been to Disney? Literally, like... Okay, so I cheered growing up. So, like, a lot of our competitions were in Disney. So, like, that's kind of where, like, my experience, like, came from.

But then even after that, like, maybe. like maybe as like in high school like three times um but like not like where i'm going every single year or like twice a year you know like the season pad you have the itinerary yeah like no like no you don't have the t-shirt ready to go no don't have matching shirts with the fan like we're good right but i feel like the rest of the bio described you pretty well and you mentioned some of those things and so it's it sums you up but i'm really happy that we get to learn more about you yeah you'll see you'll see a lot like a lot of like conversations where I unpack a lot of stuff. I want to ask you about Auburn, like massive school.

Huge. Beautiful. What was like were you, what was your major? What did you? You were in a sorority, right? Yeah, yeah. How was that? Yeah, it was good.

You know, big school. So it's like, you know, you only like meet so many people. You kids impossible to like just be so well known on like a campus like that. But wasn't a sorority. And so I ended up, did not end up rushing. until my sophomore year. So, like, I didn't come in, like, freshman year and did all that. But a bunch of, like, my best friends are from my sorority.

So, like, that, like, definitely, like, ate it to, like, my experience, made it so much more fun. It was pretty close with, like, a lot of, like, athletes, like, people who played sports, like, also, like, was another, like, niche of people that I was, like, super close with. But overall, they were, like, their own... It was, like, their own fraternity sorority is. It's, like, if you play to sport, like, you were, like, separate. But a lot of...

But a lot of my friends, too, like, also were athletes. So, like, it just made sense. But, yeah, no, Auburn was great. Like, Auburn had the best time if I could go back and do it again, 100% would. Would not choose another school. It's just, like, a tight-knit, like, university. So I love that. That's, like, why I was drawn there to begin with.

Because you were in a sorority and then you had to go live in a house with a bunch of girls for the bachelor. Did you feel any similarities to that? So yes and no. I would say, like, Bachelor was, like, way worse. Yeah. Like, way worse in the sense, just because, like, space and just, I don't know, like, these are obviously, like, people that are not similar to, like, obviously the girls in your sororities. So it's, like, so many different personalities on one roof or under one roof. But it was still fun, nonetheless.

I know. And I do feel like with a sorority, you know, you have that feeling where you kind of all picked each other. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, like, like, like, vibes are similar. You did not pick the other people you went on the show with. Not at all. Not at all.

So then what was like postgrad life like for you? And then how did you end up even getting on the bachelor? Yeah, postgrad life for me. Once I originally graduated like undergraduate, I took like a year off if I went back for grad school. So I was like just trying to like get my footing and like working and seeing like what I really wanted to do. And so then like once I decided I went back, got my master's. And so like that transition was just kind of like. It was weird because I don't think I ever like really fully had like the, what's it called, like the adulthood, like from college, like transition because I was like in grad school while I was like simultaneously doing that at the same time.

So it was like a week after I graduated my master's, my best friend, like texted me and she was like, I nominated you for the show. And I was like, what show? Like I didn't know what she was talking about. And I remember like getting like a call from like a California number and I didn't answer it because I was like I don't know. but it was a casting producer. And so she was like, yeah, we got a nomination for you. And I was like, this bitch. Like, literally did.

She really did it. Right. And so, like, I talked to her about it. And then just, like, reflecting back, I was like, I can't believe you actually submitted this. She was like, no, like, this is like your time. And I was like, I'm graduating grad school. Like, what makes you think this is like the perfect timing? Like, my life is in such a transition right now.

But then, like, I sat on it. And, like, the more I talked to, like, the producers about it, I was like, I don't know. Like, it might just be like, like good timing for me because like I'm not in a relationship anymore. I've had time to be single. Like I'm getting my footing with everything. So I was like, I don't know. Like this might just be like my shot.

So ended up going on. Yeah. Were you a relationship person? Or like a casual dating person? So after my like long term relationship, it became like I was a casual date. Like I was like, I'm not getting any relationships right now. just kind of want to see like honestly I feel like my whole outlook

on relationships changed after that relationship anyway So I was like yeah Yeah yeah yeah So definitely like tried to see like what My new interests were Seeing what it would look like dating other people And that was like fun But it just wasn't like

Yeah wasn't of substance You know and then doing that obviously led you to being the bachelorette what was that conversation like Did you think like Because there's conversations like that all the time. Oh my god, exactly. Like, will I be the bachelor's? You know, there's a chance. It was

one of those things. Like, I can honestly say like, obviously there was like other people in conversations of like, okay, this person could also be it. And in the back of my head, I like struggle a lot with just like imposter syndrome or just like I'm such a humble person. So I never place myself

on like a pedestal. Be like, oh, it's definitely going to be me. Like I never thought that for a second. And so when I was totally, like obviously I know like there was like split reviews I like she already knew but like I totally didn't know like obviously it was in conversation but like I didn't fully know and so yeah like definitely was a crazy and you really didn't have you were told and then it was pretty quick right

you were like night one limo yeah like out of here and was it an immediate yes from you were like yeah I'm just going to do it go right into it yeah I mean I thought about it and like the question even of like Bachelor in Paradise like I was like like, I don't know, will I survive on paradise? I was like, have I eat also hell? So just like, yeah, I think the ability of like, like I said, just kind of going into it hindsight or just like thinking I have an idea of like how much control I would have or, you know, being in the driver's seat.

I was like, okay, this sounds like, you know, it might be for me. So yeah, why not? And so, yeah. So night one, we're all about to watch limo entrances. Everyone gets so excited for this. How are you feeling that night? And how, I guess, you know, it's so. hard when we talk to you before the show because it's like

I don't know you know there's so much you can't say yeah but how involved we saw your brother obviously get out of the limo and like is a big joke yeah how involved was he night one yes obviously did not know my brother was coming at all so that was like that was a surprise that was the big surprise

Jesse like really threw me for a loop when he was like it's going to be someone from your past I was like oh you're just names are running through your head you don't understand oh god no like you're like oh god this is not the time not a time so I was really freaking out, but then obviously when my brother got at the limb, I was like, what are you doing here? Because I literally just saw him like three days ago. So I was like, what the hell are you doing here?

And he was like, obviously he couldn't let you like go through this night alone. So it was like really like comforting to have him there. He was like this calming aspect. But then initially like I had no idea like what he was going to be doing. So like we had like our first like greeting and then like he went away. So I was like, okay, don't know where he's at. I don't know he's doing. But like now I had to like shift gears to like meeting the guy. So like it was nice but still like. But then it's also like, you're nervous to meet all the guys, but then it's like, my brother's in there chilling somewhere. Right. And what's he saying? Exactly. So I had no idea like what he was doing. But then obviously we know, like we see that he kind of goes undercover.

So for majority of the night, that's where he spends his time just kind of gathering intel from the guys. I like when they add fun new elements and switch it up a little bit. And correct me if I'm wrong, but they've never done anything like this before, right? where they bring some siblings. I don't think so. I mean, obviously later on in the show, but I don't think night one they ever really bring like a family member to join.

Right, which I like. Put on the pressure. I know. I wouldn't say them squir. Exactly. And like, it's a good way to test. To weed out. Exactly.

For sure. For sure. You can be like, mm. Yeah. Because normally, in a normal dating scenario, if somebody did. Right, exactly. But even like if you were seeing somebody

and they met your family and if they didn't, immediately click, you'd be like, this could maybe be an issue. So it's like right off the bat, let's see. And I feel like you don't want somebody who's like too confident, but you don't want someone who's scared. Like someone who respects your brother,

but at the same time, you know what I mean? Like, not want someone who's going to run away. Yes, exactly. Were there any limo entrances that really just shocked you? Yes. There is one limo entrance where a specific guy asked me

to kick him in the balls. and I was like, did not know what was happening. I was like, is this for real? But it was like, it was just such a peculiar life. Like, do you really want me to do this? I didn't know. You might need those later on. Did not know.

Right. It's like, are they not fair? Exactly. I was questioning so much. I was like, what? And then there's one that I thought was really cute, but like towards the end of the night kind of weirded me out. But I was like, started off good.

Oh, my God. I love that. That's so fair. Like, oh, and the initial reaction is that was so sweet. It was cute. But then it ended up becoming like something that was like he did the whole night. Like every time we talked, I was like it was just like this little GoPro. And so he was like making like a home video of like to show our future kids.

It was cute concept at first. Right. But then it like everything. And then it's like, hi, I'm with your mom again. I'm like, okay. Sure you remember the camera. Yeah. It was a little creepy.

I like the idea of like this is when we first met. Put it away. Don't bring it back out the rest of the night. I think that's cute because then if it does work out, then you have that moment. Exactly. Well, you have it anyway because it's filmed on TV. But, like, selfie style. But, yeah, that sounds like it's too much.

Yeah, it was doing too much. But, like, yeah, no, the guys were really, like, creative, but also very, it was more heartfelt. So, like, you'll see more, like, limo entrances that are just, like, where they're just, like, talking, having a conversation, which I don't think we see. We always see, like, no, no shame. Like, the corny shit. Yeah, yeah. It's, like, you know, you have to, like, they love that. So, they try to pull that out of the guys, but I think they kind of went with their own leave.

And I feel like the show always, it ebbs and flows, right? Like, where sometimes it feels like we're so social media focused and like, why are we here? And here for the right reasons, the whole thing. Oh, my God. It does kind of feel like it's not, like, slow down is not the right word, but the immediate fame post-show. Like, there was an era where it was so crazy. Yes. And I feel like it slowed down a little bit.

but which is kind of nice because it feels a little bit more genuine for the contestants. Did you feel like you had a lot of genuine guys? Oh, yeah. Definitely. I had a lot of guys who, I'm going off what they said, just have like never really seen the show or like a lot that like got nominated. I just feel so much at peace when I hear like, oh, I didn't sign up for it. First is like I got nominated and like I'm taking like a leap of faith because like I don't know. It resonates with me.

Right. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. Same thing for me. Yeah. But like, yeah, no. The intentionality behind, like, a lot of these guys, like, it's just so different.

And also, like, they're a lot older, too. So, like, that age is definitely, like, a huge part of it. Yeah. They're, like, 30, 31. I'm like, yes. Yeah, yeah. Like, 22, 23. Right, right, right.

Yeah, so I feel like that always does make a big difference. And I'm sure you got to travel to some amazing places. Was that a big perk of this all? It was. Yeah. One of my favorites was, like, Fiji. And so, like, I'm. Yeah, never been.

Obviously, he never been there. Yeah. I was like, breathtaking. Like, didn't have to do anything. I can only imagine. You just sit on the sand and just stare because it's insane, insane. That is a dream. Yeah.

It's hot, but it was good. Yeah. So I know, like we said, you can always, can't really share too much because we all have to watch it unfold. But we know every season, everybody gets to a certain point. It's like fantasy sweets. Things start to get serious. Did you have a, any preconceived notions going into fantasy sweets? that you were like...

Never. Like, I made that promise of like, I'm not doing no shade to Zach. Right. But like the whole like no sex. Like I'm not making a promise. You didn't make any vows to yourself. Yeah. I was like, no.

I literally don't know what's going to happen. It's also not fair for me to make like a decision for like other people because like I'm not the only person in this relationship. Like they, I don't know what they need. So it's like, you know, trying to meet them also halfway. But yeah, like I will say that week is. just chaotic that's what we love to hear

that is what we love to hear we always ask everybody too when they come in before their season starts like are you happy are you good right now truly yeah no great valid question I'm happy with how things turned out

I can say that so that's okay well I think that leaves you on the edge everyone always says that I'll tell you that everybody says that same thing. It all turns out differently. And sometimes I think back to the season and I'm like, that person said that and they definitely didn't mean it. No. We saw how the season ended.

I don't really know if they meant that. Yeah. Yeah, no. I do have to say, though, sitting here with you and meeting you and talking to you as a person has made me so excited for this season. I feel like, you know, like ebbs and flows, you know, with like who the bachelor of bachelorette is, how exciting it could be. but I feel like you have just this such fun personality and you could tell like you are truly you. You know what I mean?

Like you're authentic, you're yourself and I'm really excited for the season. Yay! I'm excited for you guys to see. It's gonna be great. We can't wait so obviously everybody make sure you're watching tonight. ABC, 8 p.m. You all know the drill. This is not news to anybody. 9 p.m.

Oh my God, duh. Let me correct. Sorry. You know what? I went through, I say it all the time. It's like the same. It's like ingrained in my brain, we're going to have to teach herself to say 9 p.m. I feel so bad. I have no control over that.

Yeah, yeah. 9 p.m. after claim to fame. I know. 9 p.m. after claim to fame. I agree that's the way it's going. Yes. So that's very exciting. And we can't wait to see how this unfolds for you. Thank you guys. Thank you, Charity. You guys are so sweet. It's so fun.

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