Chicks in the Office - Demi Lovato Speaks Out on Past + Beat Ria & Fran Game 92
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What's up, everyone?
It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne,
giving you that Friday energy on a Monday.
Happy Monday, everybody.
Happy Monday.
The week going.
Hopefully you had an amazing weekend.
How you feeling, birthday, girl?
Is it my birthday week?
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So how are you feeling?
Your birthday's on Wednesday,
your birthday week?
I'm feeling pretty, like,
chill about my birthday this year.
Just, like, people have been asking me,
oh, what are you doing?
I'm like, nothing really.
Yeah.
It's a Wednesday.
It's 20, I'm 29.
Just feels like one more,
just feels like unimportant until,
like, 30 feels like a big one, you know?
It sounds like the big boom.
Yeah.
I think because I have a bunch of my friends
that are turning 30,
that I'm like, I'm just turning 29.
Little old me, we don't have to celebrate.
If we should celebrate you guys, you're turning 30.
Right, and people might get confused,
like, oh, it's friends 30th birthday
because other people around you are turning 30,
but you're not. It's one more year.
Joe and I are also five days apart.
A year apart, but five days apart.
So he is turning 30.
Yep.
And I feel like, you know,
he's the star of the show this September.
That's nice of you. I'll take it next year.
Yeah.
So, you know, just maybe some dinners.
That's about it.
Nothing crazy.
That's nice, though.
Nice little birthday dinner.
I don't have anything like on my list.
I think I might maybe, you know, purchase something nice for myself.
I like to treat myself at my birthday every year.
Do a birthday gift?
Something nice.
That's great.
Yeah, I don't know what yet, but I've been browsing.
Why not?
Yeah.
I love that idea.
A birthday gift for yourself.
I do.
I normally do get myself.
Why depend on other people when you could buy the gift yourself?
Yeah, exactly.
You work hard, treat yourself on your birthday.
Yeah, that's beautiful.
So, that's what I like.
Let me know what you get.
Thanks, I will.
I'll run some ideas by you.
I did have a couple that I said to my sister.
She shot them down quickly.
Well, can I just say that your sister's not the end-all, be-all on like what is, you know what I mean?
Like, you are allowed to like.
And of course, you can ask people for advice, but you are allowed to like what you like.
You know what I mean?
Like, everyone has their own style and everyone.
I saw, you know what?
She confirmed what I kind of thought about it is what was that.
Like if I totally disagreed and it was like, no, I still really like it.
I would just do it.
But in the back of my mind, I was kind of like, this is kind of boring.
And she was like, it's kind of boring.
I was like, you know what?
I want to see after.
I saw Hannah G post this on her story the other day where she wrote like, someone else,
like what's advice you would give yourself to your early 20s or something like that.
I don't remember the question exactly.
And she wrote like to stop relying on other people.
opinions and just trust your own answer and your own opinion, which honestly hit me. I was like,
wow, you know what? So true. You know, like sometimes you just got to trust your gut on what you feel.
Yeah. And not everything needs an opinion. Yeah. Because I feel like we all do that. Like,
do you like this outfit? I'm not sure, which is always great to get the opinions of your friends. But if you
really like something, you go for it. I agree. I didn't mean to get inspiration on you. It was not that deep.
That was very nice. And honestly, I should feel that way about whatever I buy myself from my
shirt. You should. You should get what you like. Yeah. I was going to bake you a cake,
but I'm not. Getting out ahead of it. I'm getting ahead of it. I'm going to do something else
for you, but I'm not going to bake you a cake. I've been, my TikTok is just littered with
cake decorating videos. It's all my for you page is finally what I wanted to be. It's nice. It's soothing.
It's cake decorating.
Nonstop, every video is a cake decorating video.
It's amazing.
Which I really enjoy watching.
And part of me thought, oh, maybe I could do this.
I can't.
It's like decorating a cake takes skill.
You know, you have to be like a legit artist.
Right.
And I'm not.
And so I thought about it.
I was like, oh, maybe I'll bake her a cake.
Not going to happen.
That's okay.
Yeah.
I'll be honest.
I don't even think you like cake.
Yeah, cake's not high on my list of desserts.
Right.
Like, I'd honestly rather do a cupcake or cookies.
I made you cookies last year.
Like, those are all ahead.
Ice cream, like cake.
It really depends on the cake.
Ice cream cake. Love a good ice cream cake.
Like for your birthday.
Ice cream cake is ice cream.
You'll have ice cream cake for your birthday instead of regular?
Same.
Like, I like an ice cream cake.
But sometimes cake is just like too rare.
And this is kind of, you know, this is my hot take.
I don't like icing.
Interesting.
Yeah.
I don't think that's that crazy.
Sometimes icing can be just a little bit too sugary.
It's just too much for me.
I don't like icing.
A lot of times, like even on a cupcake.
I like a little bit, but there's just too much.
teeny little cake with a lot of icing, I like have to, I swipe off like the whole top layer.
So there's a little.
So you get like, if it's a chocolate icing, you get the flavor.
but like a cake that is the full too much icing,
I am not going to judge you for that take.
But I'm really glad I decided not to make you cake after you going on
about how you don't like icing and you really don't like cake.
It's just, it's not that I don't like cake.
I will certainly eat cake and I enjoy cake.
It's just not your favorite.
It's just not.
A carvel cake.
An ice cream cake.
She literally just said that she likes ice cream cake.
I just said I like it.
come to the conversation.
You know,
sometimes you just...
Nice to meet you.
We're gonna like revoke your speaking
privileges if you just continue
to not listen to anything we say
and then chime in with your own opinion.
Like two minutes of...
You like ice cream cake?
What about Carvel cake?
Ice cream cake is great.
I just said, yeah.
No, already established.
I was meaning to ask you and then I had to text
something for work and then I turned back.
For work. Right, right.
He's coming from a bachelor party.
Who knows what he was up to this weekend?
Right, right. He's still like on the hallucinogens.
Yeah.
The in the ATL
Hot Lanta.
Yeah.
Added some jet skiing.
It was fun.
Wow, really?
Yeah.
Where did you jet ski at Atlanta?
We were on a lake.
Oh, you went to a lake.
That was the whole trip.
It was like two hours from the airport, like from Atlanta.
It was out there.
Nice.
No, I'm completely sober now.
Thank God.
Thank you for the question.
Just clarifying that.
Thank you for the clarification.
Anyways, how was your weekend?
It was great.
Busy.
Busy weekend.
One of my oldest friends got married
on Saturday. He's beautiful. I loved your dress.
Beautiful. Thank you. She
looked so beautiful.
And her sister, her maid of honor, looked so
beautiful. And the whole thing
was just so cute. Oh my God.
They just, they got married in this
little teeny white chapel
in a park.
Literally. In New Jersey.
We're going to get married.
It was like out of a movie.
Joe and I got dropped off in totally the wrong
location. Thank God we got there early or else
I was starting to panic.
but we like started walking and I was like, uh-oh,
I don't see anybody.
I don't see a single soul.
We are in the wrong place.
Thankfully, we found it,
but the way we came up was different than everybody else.
But we got like the full long walk up to the little chapel.
Oh, my God.
That's so cute.
It was really, really, it was really cute.
The wedding was beautiful.
Band was amazing.
Good vibes.
Good teenies.
Love when a wedding can make good martini.
Nice little dirty mark.
Yeah, yeah, it was real good
You know, when you get the olive
That's, it's got the
The pepper and chine, is that what they put in there?
Yeah, I think so.
I think it's like a pepper
Yeah, and they must use the olive juice
From like those olives for the martinis
Because the martini had those olives in it
But normally you can't like really take
there was a little peppery flavor in the drink.
It was delicious.
Just to tingle your bath a little bit.
It was just, my God.
It was 10 o'clock in the morning, and I'd love a martini right now.
Just a filthy martini.
Let me get you out of those wet clothes in with dry martini.
Literally, though, it's raining cats and dogs.
I know, it was raining.
No, but it was beautiful.
And then Sunday I went to see here now,
music festival in Asbury Park.
Way bigger undertaking than I,
thought it was so many people
were there let me tell you something
I was expecting like a cute little music
festival like I did not really
I did not understand the scope of this music
festival so
many people and they do it on the
beach yeah so it's literally
like we
sadly
we got there
like the wind was blowing
towards the main
the big main stage so the speakers
they were they were
fighting the wind and it wasn't working.
So if you were, for the earlier acts,
it was just really quiet on the beach.
Like, it just wasn't that loud.
Um, so we saw a little bit of the beach poise.
With John Stamos.
He played.
What?
Yeah.
News to me.
That's awesome.
I found out like three days ago that John Samos plays with the beach boys.
I had no idea.
Yeah.
That's so cool.
Yeah.
So that was cool.
You saw John Stamos?
Yeah, he was up there.
Did he do, um, doing his thing?
He was playing the drums?
Did he do, uh, uh,
Forever?
Yeah.
I wish.
I would have lost it.
But I lost.
I only heard like, we only heard a couple songs because honestly we could not really hear
that.
Yeah.
I saw so many people there on Instagram.
Like I was kind of shocked.
I was like, wait, I didn't even know this festival was happening.
And then you said you were saying for the festival.
Yeah.
And I was like, oh.
And then I saw Robbie Fox was at a festival.
And I'm like, wait, this is the same festival?
How many people are going to this thing?
Yeah, it was, I was shocked by the number.
Let me tell you.
Mount Joy played, which was, you know,
my fave, love them.
Girl went to go see them.
Yeah, they were, they're awesome as always.
And Weezer, we all, we couldn't really hear either.
Oh, that sucks.
But we did catch Island in the Sun.
Yeah, that's the most important one.
I was going to say, wait.
Most important one.
You didn't hear Island in the Sun?
No, believe me.
Took me straight to Aquarium.
And Food Fighters was awesome.
We, like, we, weezer the Beach Boys.
We wanted to hear it, but we weren't.
aggressively like pushing through it.
And it's weird because they do it on the beach.
So there's families that have full encampments on the beach.
Like sandcastles and they dug holes like make chairs and all these things.
Get real cozy in there.
Real cozy.
So once it got dark, it was really kind of hard to navigate.
So your back is to the beach?
Your side is to the beach.
Okay.
Like I'm looking at the stage.
The stage isn't on the beach.
Yeah.
The stage is on the beach.
I'm looking at the stage.
I'm on the beach.
To my right is the ocean.
Like the ocean, like, crashing waves into my ear last night.
Like, it was cool and a little, like, whoa, at the same time
because you're, like, watching the wave you're just on the beach.
Feels like that could be a little dangerous.
What do you think?
Yeah.
Tidal wave.
Yeah.
I mean, we'd very narrowly dodged a hurricane in this area this weekend, and that would have been a disaster.
Sorry, they probably would have had to cancel.
Let me tell you, so many talks about this hurricane that I did not once see for myself.
I heard it from you.
I heard it from other people.
Never once did I see anything about this damn hurricane.
It went high, it went north more towards like New England.
So my parents were dealing with it a little Martha's Vineyard.
But it was, there was no issues at the, at the show.
But food fighters were incredible.
Food Fighters has been a bucket list ban for me.
Never seen them lie.
was really cool.
Dave Grohl.
Crazy guy, that guy.
He just,
I don't know how his voice does that.
I was going to ask, how do they sound live?
Amazing.
He sounds amazing.
And he does that, like, that scream.
And I just, I'm like,
I don't know how that's sustainable
to just keep, to do that all the time.
Yeah.
I'm happy for you.
I'm also jealous.
It makes me want to go see another one of their shows
and be closer because we were far on the beach.
And honestly, the whole being on the beach thing is very cool,
but, you know, waves were, like, crashing in my ear.
Oh, my God, I can't fully hear what's going on.
But it was really cool festival.
Very well, like, well put together, well organized, great food.
Different.
Totally different.
Really.
Like, nothing I've never been to before.
I've never been to, like, I'm just a massive festival on the beach.
On the beach.
So, very cool, but I'm very tired.
I also like to say I'm dealing with a little bit of an allergic reaction.
It looks better, but I was sending you pictures on Friday, remember?
You didn't send me any photo.
You just were texting me about it.
Oh, I thought I sent you.
Oh, I was walking.
That's why I didn't send you a picture.
You were texting me about it, but you didn't send me any pictures.
But it looks better now.
Thank God.
I tried, you know, I did something and I shouldn't have done it.
And I knew it was going to happen because a few years ago,
I tested out something that had benzodia peroxide in it on my face,
and my face broke out on hives, and it was a disaster.
And last week, I got a benzodiaproxide spot treatment,
little pimple treatment sent to me from, you know,
a company that we don't work with.
And I tried it out.
Well, I thought I was being smart.
I put a little bit on my hand and let it sit for, you know, a day.
And I was like, oh, no nothing, no reaction, no nothing.
And then what I did was I put it on the right side of my nose.
Because that's, and like down here is I had like a couple of breakouts.
And I waited like a few minutes for it to dry down.
And then I put
moisturizer on.
So I just like rubbed it in my face.
And it's like really was more concentrated on the right side of my face.
Yeah. And you really lathered it all over.
Just rubbed.
I woke up and was like, oh my fucking God.
I did this to me again.
Last time I like went to the, uh,
the dermatologist to get like a prescription for it.
Now I've just like waited long enough and it's starting to,
starting to go away.
but like that was how it was on uh that's how it was on Friday you can't even really tell that
sometimes you know how your phone filters itself I'll show you on Snapchat because that's you can
see it better but it's not as bad oh I could see it in certain lighting it's just like in certain light
it's not awful no but it's just and it's irritating for you yes which it was not great because
I'm like just trying to fucking I'm just like rubbing my face
but I think that's coming down.
So that was really, you know, my big issue.
And noted for, I will remember,
benzodia peroxide and me are not friends.
No, not your friend.
I'll have to stick to my salicyl acid.
More like your foe.
Yeah.
Major foe vibes from benzodia peroxide.
I guess I really don't use anything that has it in it.
Mm-hmm.
And certain face washes have it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So now I'm just, I have to pay more attention.
Yeah.
Be safer.
I know. I was like,
I was just being so lazy.
I was like, do I go to the dermatologist?
No, my God. It's getting better.
There's cream for that. I just have to wait for it to get on its own.
But, yeah, sadly, I was like at multiple things, though, that I needed to, like, wear makeup for, which was tough.
Because I was, like, the worst feeling.
The best thing I could do for it was just to let it sit and heal on its own and not put shit on top of it.
Didn't really have a choice.
Couldn't really have a choice. Can not show up to a wedding without any makeup.
Right. That's the worst feeling when you're like, oh, I have to put makeup on top of it.
like your skin when you really don't want to.
Yeah.
Your skin looks great, by the way.
Oh my God, thanks.
I feel like, did you chill on the toner pads?
I totally.
It's not even just the toner pads.
I literally stopped every product that was using.
Yeah.
And I just, every single product I was using, I no longer use.
Yeah, it was just too much stuff.
Completely stopped and I'm just keeping it, keeping it casual.
Yeah.
I feel great about it now.
It's only been one week and.
No, I, you can tell the difference.
That's like, no, or I don't know.
who posted last night.
Jordan posted that. Jordan is our new social girl and she's doing great.
Yeah, I missed this whole thing because obviously I was at the show so I didn't even know
what you were talking about.
Anyways, she posted a video of me talking about my new skincare routine last night, which
was episodes ago.
Yeah.
And so I deleted it and I texted Noah because I thought Noah posted it.
I didn't know Jordan posted it.
And I wrote, this is old news.
Yeah.
Because my skin is clear.
I was like, I deleted it.
I was like, it's old news.
just because you didn't, I mean, it's not that old.
You just didn't want people.
I know what it just felt like it was like two weeks ago now.
I'm like, it's old news.
We post videos on our TikTok that are like eight months old.
I know.
I don't know.
It just hit me.
I was like, this is old news.
I'm delete.
You just didn't like the idea of people like, you're like, my skin's good now.
Yeah, like I was like it's cleared up now.
Okay, so that's really what it was.
You didn't want it up about you talking about your skin not being good.
It's more just like, it's not even that.
It's more just like.
I started getting people messaging me like, try this, try that.
And like, I can't try anything.
You know what I mean?
Like, I start getting overwhelmed when people start giving so many recommendations.
That I'm like, oh, wait, should I try this now?
Should I try that?
And I was like, whatever I've been doing in the past two weeks.
Comes right back around to what you said before.
Right, you have to trust your own opinion.
Don't have to listen to everybody else's opinion.
Right, right, right.
But anyways, yeah, thank you.
Welcome.
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Do you have a good weekend?
I had a fantastic weekend.
Friday, we went to dinner at this steakhouse.
Dino and Harry's in Hoboken.
Delicious, fantastic.
Then we went out, got way drunker than I anticipated, which means I was way more
hungover than I thought I was going to be this weekend.
You know when you have plans
for your weekend, right? In your head, you're like, I'm going to
go out, but I'm not going to get that drunk so that
I'm not that hungover. That did not
happen. I got very drunk and was
very hungover, but it was fine because
I didn't have anything else to do this weekend. So
Saturday, we just chilled out.
Went to dinner again Saturday, but casual, down the block
from our apartment. You know, had to get out of the house
because we were laying down all day.
And then Sunday, I had a cooking marathon
where I cooked all day long.
I made buffalo chicken dip.
I made pigs in a blanket.
I made tacos.
I made cookies.
I just cooked all day long.
And it was delicious.
Sounds amazing.
You did post a picture of those cookies and they looked fantastic.
It was delightful.
It was so delicious.
Yeah.
I'm a great cook.
What can I say?
I am.
I really am.
I surprise myself every time.
Like I'm so shocked.
Not that shocked now, but like nobody taught me.
You know what I mean?
Like it's not like my parents were
They're fine cooks
You know
But they would play the hits every week
You know
It was the same old same old
Yeah
I don't know where this skill came from
But it's great
Self made
So yeah I am a self-made
Chef
I saw I wanted to talk about this
But not for a topic
But it really resonated to me
And I don't remember
When I saw it
What day when I woke up
When I saw it
But Lily Reinhardt tweeted this
And I was like
Man
do I feel you, Lily.
Oh, I saw this.
She tweeted this three days ago.
She tweeted this three days ago. She tweeted.
Because I know we've had this conversation.
It's like takes up my brain.
Yeah.
She tweeted, I wish there were more average-sized arms represented in mainstream media for women.
My body dysmorphia has been going crazy because I feel like my arms need to be half the size they are currently.
We've glamorized these skinny arms that for most of us can only be achieved if you're a little adolescent.
and then she had another tweet about it.
But I was like, oh my God.
So true, Lily.
Like, it is, it actually,
I have had this discussion with multiple women in my life
just about how our arms,
like we just get in our own way in our head
about how our arms should look.
And like, I'm afraid to wear certain shirts on camera
because of how my arms look.
Or like when we do live shows,
I'm worried about how my arms look.
It's just like,
arms for me take up a space in my brain that I wish it didn't I know it really is crazy I feel like
there's been such a more of a focus on it too recently and her posting that I felt like did kind of
confirm that also like people are really hyper fixated on on arms arms and I see people like
doing things to like surgically change their arms and I feel like that's something I've never
seen before. No, I know, and I'm seeing it all over the place. I'm seeing a lot of women talk about
how, like, they are insecure about their arms, and I'm like, yes, I feel you. Like, my arms for me,
I'm just like, I wish I could stop thinking about them. And some days, I mean, it really, it goes up and
down, right? Like, some weeks, it's fine, you don't really think about it. And then you see one
angle or one, and you're like, why does my arm look like that? Because your arms squish against
your side, and your arms literally change how they look all the time, whether they're pressed up
against you, you're posing a certain way.
Like, they're always changing.
And I saw this and I was like, oh my God, you are preaching to the choir about this arm
situation.
And I've talked to many women about it recently.
And I'm just like, this arm thing.
Like, we all got a band together and just stop Karen about what our arms look like.
But it's hard when you see, like I said the other week when I was talking about Kylie
Jenner.
And I was like, her arms are so small.
How?
But then, you know, there's other.
I mean, they could be doing anything to their arms.
Yeah, they definitely have other things.
Because it's like no matter how much I work out or whatever, my arms, I actually saw a picture.
My friend sent us a picture of us from high school the other day.
And I was like, my arms look the same size, you know?
Yeah.
But in my head, like, it's weird how it works.
Like I was like, my arms have always been this size.
But I'm creating this narrative in my head about them.
So it's tough.
So if you are, if you are insecure about it.
your arms, I feel you. Trust me. I really feel you. And thank you to Lily for tweeting that
because I was like, you know what? I feel seen. I feel heard. And also, this is kind of going to
make me stop. I'm going to try to stop caring about it as much because I know that I've never
looked at Lily Reinhard's arms and have been like, oh, wow. Yeah. What's up with Lily Reinhard's arm?
You know what I mean? Like you're thinking it more than other people are thinking it about you.
Definitely. So that's my little rant. Besides that, fantastic weekend. And I'm ready for the
week. All right, let's get into the topics for today's show. We are going to be talking.
Oh, did you want to, sorry to cut you off, but you had mentioned that you wanted to discuss
the. Oh, Travis Kelsey. Taylor Swift. That the Iron Eagle did the Taylor Swift. Yeah. So this was in my
nap portion of the evening on Sunday where I was going to take a cute little nap, which I like to do
when football is on. And I'm actually.
like all these TikToks now where girls are like,
you know, when your boyfriend or your husband is
watching football all day and it's like
great for you because you sit there and you could do
whatever you want. It's like, I cooked,
I napped, I did, you know, some self-care.
Like you just do what you're just like
just chilling. So this
was my nap portion and I was
just on the cusp of falling asleep.
Right? Like I was right there
and I popped up
when I heard Travis Kelsey scored a touchdown
and then I heard
oh, we found a blank space.
Drive's Kelsey
For the blank space
For the touch
And I was like
For the score
Right
And I was like
Did he just
Did he just
Use a Taylor Swift reference
Blank Space
And he did
And
At first
When I was the only one
Who noticed it
In my brain
Because I didn't look online
And it was just
In the
Parameter of my apartment
I was like
Oh my God
I can't believe
I caught that
Like you know
And then I went on
Twitter
And realized
Everybody was talking about it
And I was like
this suddenly just became lame to me.
And I don't know why.
Like, I just thought maybe Taylor Swift might be like, all right, like you're being so
not chill about dating me.
And it's not Travis Kelsey's fault.
I loved it.
The NFL is not being chill about him potentially dating Taylor.
No, they're definitely not.
They're definitely not.
But I think it's also like so, it's all speculation.
because I still fall into the camp that I don't really think they're dating.
So now I just, so like I think it's just kind of funny.
I thought I ain't hit that blank space reference.
You know he had that written down.
He definitely had a ride.
He crushed it.
I thought it was smooth.
Delivery was there.
I loved it.
Loved every second.
You know a love a pun.
Anything like that.
It made me giggle.
Yeah, I just, I was like.
like, you know, Taylor Swift's a very private person.
And I just not sure she would love the NFL, like,
well, being like, oh, you know, the NFL's acting like they're, like,
the parents of Travis Kelsey dating a big superstar.
Like, oh, my God, look at him.
He's potentially dating Taylor Swift.
Like, they're really...
He is the one who went, like, public with it at first, though, so it's kind of his fault.
Yeah, it's just been...
It's also just been brought up a million times.
Like, every pregame show...
they've been talking about it
I mean they asked
Jason Kelsey about it
on the post game show after Thursday
and football like literally
Tony Gonzalez was like I have a daughter
I have to ask
and so it's nonstop
fuel
now it's entertaining
and I don't I don't
I don't think Taylor would think of it
as anything other than like
a little little
little silly jokes, you know?
Because it's not, I just feel like coming from all the criticism and hates a strong word,
but hate for the potential of her and Maddie Healy that like this is like,
oh, fun, harmless.
Oh, there is definitely hate with her dating Maddie Healy.
No, I know.
But which I'm saying, like, for her just publicly, it's like the conversation is more like,
is simple.
Yeah, I mean, it's harmless.
It's harmless.
It's harmless, but I'm just like,
you know that my,
this has quite literally
nothing to do with what we're talking about,
but my,
maybe after my freshman year
of high school,
I did a sports
broadcast camp with Ion Eagle.
Oh, really? He ran it. Yes. I got a
picture of me, him, and
Bruce Beck. Did he teach you how to
do these puns? You know,
No, but it was a great camp.
That's cool.
It was like me and like 40 dudes.
In a very awkward high school phase of like being like 13, 14.
Yeah, it was great.
It was a great.
I still have the picture of the two of us.
You get a picture.
Obviously you get a picture with the two guys at the end after you finish your camp.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you get like a little tape of yourself like doing a little news report.
That's cool though.
Yeah, it was great.
All right, let's get into the rest of the topics, which now we've been talking for so long that I forgot that we actually have other topics to talk about.
Demi Lovato did an interview with Howard Stern, and I thought it was great.
I am very interested in Demi Lovato right now.
Caitlin Jenner is going to be a part of this House of Kardashian documentary.
Clearly, Keelan Jenner is looking for a payday.
Drake used the picture of Halle Berry at the Kids Chores Awards being slimed without her approval.
So that's not great.
I mean, I guess he can, but it's not...
You can, but you know, don't.
Morals.
Drew Barrymore said that she was going to continue her show
and then quickly said she's not going to continue her show.
She's all over the place, roller coaster.
And we got a couple of divorces to talk about
and a great game of trivia.
So let's get into the topics.
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All right, let's get into the topics. I want to start off by talking about Demi Lovato.
Demi Lovato has done a couple of interviews recently, and she was on Howard Stern and talking
about her life. And I thought it was really interesting. I thought there were a few interesting
tidbits in there. You know, we were talking about Demi Lovato for a while. A few years back,
she talked about going California sober, which means, you know, smoke weed.
I don't know what else that entails.
She said that that did not work out for her.
She ended up going back to other drugs.
And then she went back to rehab.
And she's been sober since November 2021 now.
She's very happy in her relationship.
She sees herself marrying this guy.
And I just think she looks really healthy and happy.
And by the way, Demi also goes by she, her, they, them.
Yeah.
Because I know people are going to say that she's.
does not go by she, but she
does. Yeah, Demi has
Demi changed,
started using they, them,
then clarified that
it is all
she, they them, she, her.
Which she does have listed on her Instagram,
bio as well. She's got them all.
She's got them listed out. So
yeah, I think even
just from watching
the, her performance
at the VMAs, which was
great. And she's doing
this like revamped
rock version of
album of her old songs which is really cool
but
it does and it seems like she isn't a great
she also was
just an interview with the lady game
which was which was great also
talking about
I saw a clip of her talking about
her boyfriend that she was
you know so happy and
and her band seemed really happy for her and her boyfriend
and I anytime Demi Lovato
talks about her life I find it
wildly interesting. Obviously she lives, she has lived quite a life. Yeah. And I thought, you know,
Howard Stern asked her if she has any regrets. And she said that, you know, of course, her instinct
is to say that she regrets overdosing because she now lives with certain impairments because of that.
But at the same time, it's not great for her to look back and regret things like she can only move
forward, which I think is the best way to look at it. It's like that happened and it was awful,
but she can't keep harping on that. Like she has to go forward with her life. And I don't know,
I just, I'm always rooting for Demi. Yeah. And 100%. They talked about the alien thing.
You know, remember when she said it was offensive to call aliens aliens. Yes. And they talked about
that and she laughed a little bit and she was like, I had just had a conversation with somebody where they told me that was
the case and then I went and posted that and you can tell that she was like laughing at herself a
little bit for for those things um but I don't know I just I whenever she does any sort of interview
I find her life to be very interesting yeah well been through a lot yeah so there's always a lot
to to share and tell I feel like and anytime I feel like dem is in a good place
makes me happy.
Mm-hmm.
Me too.
It's like you said,
a lot of ups and downs.
So definitely nice to see her in a good place.
Yeah, I agree.
Moving on to Caitlin Jenner.
Like, I couldn't be rolling my eyes more.
So Caitlin Jenner is doing this,
she's a part of this documentary
called House of Kardashian.
And I guess it's to talk about
how the Kardashians became famous,
made a name for themselves.
And it's not, it doesn't seem
like it's a positive thing. It's more like in a negative light. And Caitlin Jenner is just
yapping her mouth the way about how about Kim and the sex tape and all that. Why?
Feels so unnecessary. But clearly she got paid. Must, you know, must be looking for that payday.
Unnecessary unless you need money. Yeah. Yeah. I think, like, Sky is producing it. It's European
news outlet
and
also the
anytime you're talking about
like the early stages of the Kardashians
this guy loves to pipe
pipe up
the girl's gone wild guy
what's his name
Joe
I don't know
Jeff
he went to jail
I think
I guess he's out of jail now
it's
Whenever I try to Google something at work, it's hard because I get like this, I'm not a robot thing.
I know.
Oh, yeah, no, Joe.
Because the Wi-Fi, it's so frustrating.
Joe Francis.
Yes, Joe Francis.
That's what I'm thinking of.
Noted, you know, I think not great guy.
But as for some reason, they go back to the time of them being close and working together and having him speak on behalf of.
the Kardashians just feels
it just feels like
there are other ways
for
Caitlin to make money if that's
what this is about you know
because
this has got to
gotta cause a little bit of a tiff
yeah I can't imagine they're all
and it's like and it's just like the girls are all
my eye is so
sorry my eye is so itchy
I just feel like I've been dealing with
this itchy face.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
Oh, God.
What was I going to say?
Make it through.
Oh, a tip because
I think Kylie
and Kendall
try and keep a
relationship with Caitlin,
have a relationship with Caitlin.
Right, well, because that's their dad.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
So Caitlin then makes it hard
when she's going to talk about
the rest of the family.
Yep, exactly.
And it's also their mom
Right. It's all their mom.
Yeah.
And when Caitlin has negative things to say about Chris, I'm sure they don't love that.
Yeah. I will be interested in seeing what she says.
Like, is she going to be positive? Is she going to be negative?
When does this come out?
And the trailer is coming out seem like it's more negative. But I think maybe that's to draw
in. And then maybe when it does come out, it won't be so negative. And then maybe people
won't be mad at her. Right, right. But the trailer right now, or maybe she thought she was doing a
positive thing and now they're spinning it into something. It's a three-part docu-series. And it is,
Caitlin Jenner said of her involvement in the production, I was happy to participate in the interview
process to share my side, which points to the strength, influence, and prowess my family has in
captivating the world's attention and keeping it over the years. I am incredibly proud of all my
children and stepchildren. So, I don't know.
Maybe it's, they wanted it to make it look like she's talking shit, but maybe she's not, you know?
Because that's how they're going to get the viewers in, including myself. That's what both man.
Yep. And this, I still, oh, oh, in the UK. It's set to air in the UK on October 8th.
So I don't know what that means for everybody here that wants to watch it.
If you're in the UK, you can watch October 8th. Yeah, if you're in the UK, you can watch it on October 8th.
Moving on, Drake released a new song with Siza called Slime You Out.
I love it. I love Siza so much.
So I will listen to literally any song that she is in.
And I think people were really excited for them to do a song together because they did date back in 2009.
And there's rumors about whether like Marvin's room is, you know, a little bit about her or whatever.
And she did tweet back in 2020 because Siz, Drake said in a song, I think Mr. Right now with 21 Savage, he said like he used to date Siza back in 08.
but Siza was, I think, 17 in 2008,
and that caused the whole stir.
And then Siza tweeted like, no, we definitely dated in 2009.
By the way, I know for a fact that it's 2009,
you can ask all these people who was 2009.
I think he only said 2008 to rhyme because it was rhyming with another word.
So that was the whole thing, but they did date.
And now they put out a song together.
And the cover of the song is a picture of Hallie Berry.
getting slimed at the kids choice awards.
The song is Slime You Out.
There is like a lyric in there that's like slime you for your kids choice action, whatever.
Halliberry did not approve of Drake using this picture, though.
Apparently he did ask because Hallibary posted on her Instagram, you know, a quote.
Or it was like, oh, hold on.
Sorry, I'm clicking the wrong one.
She put up, sometimes you have to be the bigger guy even if you're a woman.
And so that, and then she did the middle finger emoji.
And so that was about Drake using her picture.
And people assumed that Drake just used it without asking her, but that wasn't the case.
He did ask her and she said no.
She wrote, he asked me and I said no.
Why ask if you intend to do what you want to do?
That was the fuck you to me.
Not cool.
You get it.
She wrote to somebody else.
It was an Instagram comment.
It was an Instagram comment back on that post.
So I agree with her.
like, if Drake, if you're going to use the picture anyway,
you should definitely ask and get approval.
And if the person says no, then you probably shouldn't use it.
But if you plan on using it anyway, like she said,
if you're going to do what you intend to do, like it's kind of a fuck you to ask and then
her say no and then use it anyway.
Sometimes Drake does things.
I'm just like, why do you have to do that, Drake?
Come on.
It's hard to defend that, you know, a great song.
And also a great picture.
Like, it is a great picture.
And you have to wonder yourself if you're Halliberry, you know,
there could be plenty of reasons why she doesn't want it used.
But it's a picture of her.
But it is a picture that can be used, I think, because it's on Getty.
So I think he could, like, buy it and use it.
I'm not exactly sure how that works.
But clearly it's not a legal thing because she can't.
I don't know.
I think she would be like.
Those laws are so crazy to me.
Right.
The picture thing is always very confusing.
I think there were, I think something, I would think something would come into play
about.
yes, using the picture,
but can you use the picture for profit?
Like using the picture to sell something.
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess he can if he did.
But I will say, I would not mess with Halliberry.
Like, I don't know why Drake would mess with Halliberry.
You could have probably used any other picture
from the kid's choice words, I guess maybe Hallie Berry.
A lot of other celebrities have been slimes.
Right. But Hallie Berry getting slimed,
I guess is the coolest because she's so cool.
It's like, that's cool.
but I would not mess with her
and I would not have used the picture.
I just know that you got a lot of,
it is a massive fuck you for sure
to when you are asked
and you say no
and it's used that way.
Let me tell you, Drake has some balls lately.
I'm not going to lie.
Being at his concert
and seeing the visuals he was putting up
of Anna Winter, I was like,
oh my God.
Like he doesn't give a fuck
because I guess he's reached this level
where he can do what he wants
But I just, Hallie Berry, I just wouldn't mess with
Hallie Barry, I'd be like, I'm not gonna bother.
Anna Wintor?
Right.
You know, that's another one where it's like, she,
they have like beef.
Yeah, like they have, him and Anna Wintor have, you know,
a little back and forth, I guess.
Hallie Barry?
It's just fun in general to like have beef with Anna Wintor.
Right.
But, yeah, no, Hallie Barry feels like an unnecessary,
like you just don't want Hallie Barry as an adversary.
Yeah, I just wouldn't piss her off.
Just, yeah.
Like, you could just use any other picture.
You were clearly, he, he was.
He was clearly that said on using this one.
Yeah, I guess he saw the vision.
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Drew Barrymore all over the place.
Okay.
So she, you know, was going to put her show back on air.
Yep.
And then people got upset about that.
Yep.
And so she took her show off.
And then she said that she was going to do it.
And she made then a long video, you know, apologizing, but also explaining why she was doing it.
And people did not tend to that video well.
And so she decided, once again, she will not be putting the show back on air.
Now here's the thing.
No matter, there has an, I can't remember a case where somebody apologizes for something and the crowd takes the apology well.
There's always something wrong with somebody's apology.
I was thinking about that after this.
This is a whole other just ballgame that we don't even know about and I can understand why people are frustrated with her.
There's just so many things that go into it.
Like ethically, I think, you know, doing the show is in people's eyes is not right because of what's going on.
But then for her case, she was like, there are other people that need jobs and, you know, have to feed their families.
And so she's providing a job for them.
But at the same time, it's not right to the people.
You know, it's a whole confusing mess.
And so she backed down and she's not going to do the show.
Yeah.
it's also very selective on who everybody is mad at and who's made a big deal of shows coming back or certain daytime shows because some shows can come back, some can't, some do have WGA writers, some don't, yeah, like the WGA writers, some don't, yeah, like the WGA writers, you got to see like what, who works on what show,
because certain shows are coming back.
Like, I believe Jennifer Hudson's show,
you know, on her Instagram,
it says new episodes coming September 18th.
I think they were going back on air.
I don't know if that's definitely still happening,
but Bill Maher is also another guy who said last week
that he was bringing his show back in a very limited capacity
without their...
writers. So it's just very confusing. I know Jennifer Hudson's show, oh, now the Instagram
bio just says new season, new surprises. So, oh yeah, mark your calendars for Monday,
September 18th. It's just, like I said, it's, it feels like everybody got really, really,
really upset at Drew. And there are other shows that are coming back or not coming back. But yeah,
It's when you have the attention on you and then it just build because then you make the video and then everybody's talking about the video and then you delete the video and come back and say, oh, we're not going to do the show.
It's got to be very tough.
I cannot, I will say like I it's hard to have a side in this, I feel like because I understand that if you are a show that has.
writers that are on strike
like your show is on strike
that's how that's that is how
a strike works
and I feel like it under you know
it undermines a strike
and hurts these people
if the shows just continue
and
the strike becomes irrelevant
basically so I understand like these
you're on strike you got to be on strike
that's how you try and get things
done
But this has also been so, like, such a long process already and ongoing and there does not seem like an end in sight.
And that's got to be really hard to look at your employees, the people who work on your show.
And yes, there are a lot of writers, but there's the crew and the production and, like, all the other elements, all the other departments that don't have a job.
So as a leader, that is incredibly tough to deal with how you please both sides.
Yeah, I agree.
I think that's why she's or many people are stuck in a sticky situation.
Yeah.
And no matter what you do, people are going to be upset with you.
And I think no matter what apology you put out there, people will criticize an apology.
No matter, it could be a perfectly good apology.
And you can be very sincere, which I think a lot of people are when they do apologize.
Why don't people feel like they did something wrong?
They apologize. They're sincere. People are going to rip it apart.
I also think celebrities need to stop reading off of their laptops when they do apology videos.
Right.
Because it's obvious.
You know, sometimes I go back and forth on that.
Like, what are they supposed to do?
Memorize it, like a monologue?
Not memorize, but speak from the heart.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's so hard.
Speaking from the heart?
No, no, no.
And that's, yeah, in a situation, in a high-pressure situation where you want to make sure
you're saying the right things.
You may have some bullet points in front of you.
You want to make sure you hit everything.
I guess, but I feel like I would just, you know, watch it back.
If I feel like I'd miss something, I would re-tape it from the, I don't know.
I just feel like when you're reading off something, it automatically people start thinking
who wrote, you could have written it yourself.
Yeah.
But it's just like, it just doesn't feel genuine sometimes.
Yeah.
I think you can hit the points in your head if you really know what you want to say and you
really are sorry about something.
Yeah, maybe they just want to be more prepared, you know?
Well, that's what I'm saying.
Actors are very used to reading off a script, so that's how they're the most comfortable.
And that's why they need writers.
Yeah.
Okay, last topic.
It's just, I feel like it's a very tough situation.
It does feel like it's never ending.
And I just feel like it's not going to, because these big, like, the streamers and everything,
unless there's a full-blown called for, like, boycott of things, like, they're, they don't care.
So I tough. It's very hard.
Moving on to the last topic, which is kind of just a summary of things, is divorces this past weekend.
Hugh Jackman.
More and more and more.
Yeah. Hugh Jackman and his wife, Deborah Lee. They were together for 27 years.
They called it quits. Their youngest, I think, just went off to college. So people are saying that maybe they were waiting for that.
And now they decided to call off their marriage.
sometimes I'm just like 27 years
You know?
It's a long time. It's a long time.
At that point you're like nothing, nothing could fix this.
Yeah.
You know?
We've been together for 27 years.
I don't know.
Yeah, that one falls into the camp too when I think of like
they may have been just waiting.
Right.
For them to be able to go separate ways.
It's like, oh, you know, our youngest is still at home.
Mm-hmm.
When
college starts
and we're really living on our own,
we could make that
that clean split
so that our kids have two parents
in the house until that happens.
They're like, damn, we don't want to be...
It happens often.
We don't want to be alone in this house
just us too.
Yeah, because it happens often.
But if this was a surprising one
and this was also a Friday...
Friday drop.
Friday afternoon drop.
There were a couple Friday drops.
Jenna, Jenna Mai and GZ, which, by the way, that morning, Friday morning, I'm on my TikTok.
For some reason, on Friday, I was getting a couple of videos from The View.
Don't know why. They were just on my TikTok.
I stopped and I watched this one video of Jenna talking about how GZ is like as loyal.
Oh, the talk. Oh, the talk, not the View. Sorry, the talk. My apologies.
I was getting videos about how Jenna was talking about how GZ is like the most loyal husband.
if he's at the club and he sees a girl that he knows,
he'll wave from across the room,
but he knows that if there is any,
if they're in the same vicinity,
it could be caught on camera, bad, like praising him, okay?
And I was like, oh my God, I didn't even know they were married.
An hour later?
Divorce.
Divorce.
I was like, I didn't even,
I was like, how did I just see that clip,
which is an old clip, by the way.
I don't know why it ponds up on my TikTok.
And then an hour later,
divorce. I was like, whoa, that freaks me out because I was like, oh,
yeah, cheesy. Sounds nice. Sounds like a good husband. Hour later, he's divorcing her. And then he
posted on his Instagram, this caption was ruthless. He posted this on his Instagram. It's a picture
of him standing in front of his car. And he wrote, too focused on who I'm becoming to focus on
who's not coming with me. Oh, shit.
He posted that this weekend?
He posted that four days ago.
Damn.
Damn.
And just pose in front of his car.
He's like, you know, you're not with me.
Another one bites the dust.
Yeah, so that was that.
They only been married for two years.
And we just found out that Tiana Taylor.
Yeah, that was my next one.
And in Amon Shumpur just have been broken up.
It wasn't even like, they were like, hey, this feels like the right time to just throw out there that we also split up.
Tiana Lake it away.
By the way, me and Amon, we've been separated for a while.
We're good.
Everything's good.
We're co-parents, but we haven't been separated for a while.
Just I'd sprinkle this one in.
And, you know, it's crazy because I heard she was at a restaurant with somebody.
I don't know.
It was just a little bit ago.
And I was like, isn't she married to a Montchumper?
And then I was like, oh, maybe they separated.
Then this happened.
I'm like, oh, okay, they have been separated.
That makes sense.
This one makes me so sad too. Love them.
I'm on my king of Dancing with the Stars.
And like amazing music video, never forget.
Yeah.
That they did together.
Yep.
And yeah, Dancing with the Stars.
Another one.
I will say though I feel like it sucks because the focus, the focus, what everyone's been
talking about is like, oh my God, all these couples in 2023, everybody's divorcing, everybody's
divorcing.
But at the same time, I do feel like there's been a lot of engagements.
But the divorces are always bigger headlines than the engagements because people care more
about the more about the breakups,
but I feel like there's also been some
some big ones.
And I also love that it was, I love
that Chrissy Tegan and John Legend renewed their vows
in Lake Como looks beautiful.
10 years.
That's nice. You know, that's nice.
You could celebrate that.
Something to celebrate. There are engagement to celebrate.
There's babies to celebrate. Yeah. There are other
things to celebrate. But this weekend was a couple
of divorces, couple split ups. I know. I saw
who do. Tanya got engaged.
Yes. Oh my God. Congratulations to Tanya.
First of all. Beautiful.
Beautiful. The whole setup was beautiful.
The way it all went down.
You know, he wrote her a little note.
Like, the time is calm.
I brought your makeup.
So cute.
She thought it was a spa day.
Like, I think they're just so, like, so cute.
And I love how happy Tanya is.
And she really deserves the best because she is just an outpouring love of sunshine all the time.
And so she deserves all the best.
I'm so happy for them.
And they just seem like such an adorable couple.
They really are.
They really are.
So I was very happy to see this there.
And they're in their like engagement bubble, which, you know, we know how that feels and it's great.
It's beautiful.
So, gosh, I was super happy for them.
And you know what else I saw engaged?
Got engaged.
I was happy for it.
Kelsey from Cies to Key.
Yeah, I was happy for her too.
Great.
Another beautiful engagement in Greece.
Yeah.
It's stunning.
I also saw a couple people like I went to high school with too.
Like I'm like, oh my God, it's a beautiful weekend.
Yeah, exactly.
So while the divorce headlines feel like they are always the biggest.
They're the most discussed.
But, you know, we've got to fight for love out there.
Love stands strong.
We've got to fight for love.
Love still exists.
It's still out there.
I hate when people like are like, put your fist down.
No, I hate when people are like, oh, love doesn't exist when like they see a celebrity
couple get divorced.
I'm like, that's who you were counting on.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I will say, I mean, I did have a moment like that with you, Jackman.
only because it's just like a long time
he has only had
he's only had the nicest
things to say about her
and I'm sure he still has nice things to say about her
but maybe they're just you know
he was always one that I liked to
refer back to that was like
oh he met her
when he was
not this big star
and they connected
they've been married for so long
they have such a great relationship you know like it's like
when they when they
you get over
that 20 year mark in Hollywood,
it is an accomplishment.
It's impressive.
It is impressive.
And I was like, they have stayed together, you know.
Sometimes these guys, when they hit it big, they become these big stars, their egos.
You know, they end up splitting up.
And he and Debra have been going strong for a long time.
And that was, I was like, damn.
It's a sad one to see.
It was.
You know, I auditioned to play Hugh Jackman's daughter in a movie once.
that I don't think ever got made.
It was a very bizarre movie.
It was about how Hugh Jackman was becoming a makeup salesman.
You know, like, those like door to door to door.
And, you know, like, those makeup, I don't even remember the names.
There were like pyramid schemes.
No, I know.
Like Mary Kay.
And Air Bon, Arbon.
I don't remember.
Like, there's a couple.
And it was about that.
Like, he was becoming like a makeup.
salesman and I just into play
his daughter. Sounds like we all
missed out on quite the flick.
And I went in with like
a lot of makeup on because
I was, because it was like the daughter
was helping blah blah blah. And they made me go to the bathroom
and wipe my face off. They're like
you're wearing way too much makeup.
So never
forget, me and Hugh Jackman could have made magic.
That movie never got made. It was an awful idea for
movie. I don't know why Hugh Jackman was signed on to it.
Anyways, that
wraps up the topics.
