Chicks in the Office - Gossiping w/ Amanda Hirsch aka NSBNF + BIP's Tyler Norris Interview

Episode Date: December 2, 2022

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. This is state of emergency. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne, friend giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. This is a packed episode, so not much of an intro.

We did stories with Amanda Hirsch, aka Not Skinny but Not Fat. She was so much fun. that was like over an hour. And then we had Tyler from Bachelor in Paradise and The Bachelorette on to talk all about the reunion and what happened with him in Brittany and Johnny, Victoria. We're going to get into all that. But first, this is sponsored by Proper Wild.

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Exactly. Right to the point. Exactly. Our 500th episode is on Monday. Yay! Which was really cool. We recorded a fun interview with Drew Barrymore, which will be out on Monday. And we also went on your show.

Very inspirational. Like, I think you guys are going to love to just hear her talk. Yes, you just want to listen to her talk. Very insightful. You know, she talks a lot about her personal life. And she was just, I could listen to her talk all day. And we wish we had more time with her. And I'm sure people are, why didn't you ask this?

Why didn't you ask that? Drew talks, you listen. Exactly. And it like flew by. All of a sudden, it was 45 minutes and we were like, oh my God, how is 45 minutes already gone by? Like, this is, there's just so much. Right. So much to unpack, which was really, really good.

And then we went on Drew's show, Drew's News, which was really... No one complimented us and said it was maybe the best interview that we've ever done. Yes. I did. Thank you very much. Like I was saying, we went on Drew's News and you can listen to us. there as well. That episode is out today and it was such an honor to be invited by Drew to go on her show like we could never imagine something like that growing up watching all of her movies being

such a fan of her to be asked to go on her show was so so incredible and we're so thankful and we're so thankful for all of you guys for listening to this show for how many episodes because we wouldn't be able to do 500 episodes if nobody was listening. You guys are clocking a lot of minutes. We're seeing those Spotify wrapped like we said. Thank you for tagging us and all of them. It is really cool to see the lists of podcasts and everything you guys listened to. And how many minutes do you spend with us? I saw people being like so many minutes listened,

but it's so many revelation for us and so many minutes that we have talked. Right. We just keep on talking. And yet we couldn't shut up today either. It's a long episode, but I think you guys will enjoy it. And you guys will be so excited to hear our episode on Monday that we are super proud of. On top of that, we did a little, you know, contest for our merch, Black Friday, Cyber Monday, where we had people, if you bought a Ria or Fran set as well as a beanie or a hat,

then you were entered into trivia. If, you know, we said we were going to pick five names and those people would be able to come on trivia with a partner of their choice for the next five games. So we're going to pick those names right now. If you're listening to this, pay attention closely. You may hear your name called. And that is... There you go.

There you go. ASMR. Ooh. Who's it going to be? Who knows? I didn't even reach deep for that. Ava G. Now, how do we know...

I know what knows. I'm going to go back. I didn't know if we want to put... Oh, true. Yeah. All right, Ava G. You made the list. Are the first one up to play trivia

with a partner of your choice. Brooke I Brooke I congratulations Brooke come on down You'll be playing trivia with us Yeah That one felt like a

A sign that had jumped out Lisa P Lisa P Welcome to the club Lisa Lisa P Happy to have you All right Two more two more

Two more What Andriana Oh yeah that one was interesting name Audrey not Adriana No, no, it was... Andriana M. Andrea M.

Interesting name. I like your name. Very interesting. Very... I'm guessing Italian. Unique. All right. Last one.

Last one. Taylor N. Okay. So we're going to go over those again. Ava G. Brooke I. Lisa P. Andrea M.

And Taylor N. You guys have all been picked. Two play trivia. You guys will pick a partner of your choice. Those will be the next five games. Thank you guys so much and thank you for all the people who bought merch as well and entered the contest. You know, I'm sorry that you were not picked, but thank you for entering as well. We really, really appreciate you guys.

You guys, it means more than you know that you guys support us so much that you'll even buy podcast merch of people's, your favorite podcasters or maybe we're not your favorite. We're one of your favorites. But it really does mean a lot more than you guys know. So thank you very much and we're excited to play with you guys. Hopefully all the other names you didn't get selected, we can get on in the future. Yes, maybe we can get you guys on the future. Keep trying. This was just a way to fast.

Yeah. We do have one game just to specify before the five names scheduled. And then after that, that will start. So look out for those. And if you heard your name, Noah will be in contact. Yes, he will. So thank you guys so much. Let's get into our weekly watch report segment.

Could I say one thing? a lot of people have been sending me statistics for the trivia like a lot I just one thank you to everyone who's sending it and we'll send all of you merch because some of them are very detailed but I just wanted to put that out there so people stop because I'm getting more and more every day and I'm like the stats have been sent we don't need you to all to go back and we don't need other people now to go back yeah yeah yeah spend so much time but there were like many many people sending that in I'm going to like compare them all all just to double check. And then I guess maybe like next week we can kind of like go through the stats. Yeah. Okay. Sounds good. Sounds like a plan.

All right. Let's get into our weekly watch report. And then we'll get into the rest of the show. All right. Welcome back to weekly watch report where we will be talking about all of the things we watch this week and grading them. This week kind of flew by. We were very busy this week.

Days got away from us. So yeah, not including the weekend. Yeah. Not a lot. Slash last week of viewing. for myself. I did watch the White Lotus on Sunday per usual. I'm going to

give that one. Season two episode. Season two episode five. It's almost over. Yeah, there's two more episodes left. I'm going seven episodes. Yes. I'm going B plus on this one. This one had a little bit more juice. It seems like we're getting somewhere.

Aubrey Plaza's character is about to fly off the handle and I'm excited about it. So I'm going to give that one to B plus. And then I started season three of you because season four of you was announced and I never watched season three of you. I don't think I ever watched it either. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. Not my favorite of the seasons. How many episodes have you watched? Five. Oh, okay. Halfway through. I'm halfway through. It's pretty good. Yeah. I'm just going to work those five episodes as a whole. I'm going to bank together.

Yeah. As you should. And I'm giving it a B minus. Okay. Not. Yeah. It's not bad. Not amazing, but not. Not taking, yeah. But I'm in truth. But you're going to finish. I'm going to finish it. Yep. Okay, good. And that's all I can remember at this point.

I really can't recall. Yeah. So I have a couple things as well. Like you said, there wasn't too much. I am deep into Love Island, Australia, season four. If anyone out there is watching. Should I watch? I think it's good.

I think they have good drama. But you would know what I like do you Yes, I think you would like it I think you would like it It's on Hulu It's on Hulu However like I liked it enough The first four episodes

Were put on Hulu Well the first three And then four was put on I think five is on there now But it's like the release dates I can't figure out on Hulu Like when they come out when they don't So

I still have my I still have my I still have my I still have my I still have a VPN because I would watch Love Island, UK. And you can watch Love Island Australia for free. You don't have to pay for an account or anything. You just go on like the website that it's on.

So once I watched one through four on Hulu and there wasn't a new one out, I was like, fuck, I need to know what happened because I think there's maybe 18 or 9, like there's three weeks or so of episodes. I think it started at the beginning of November or end of October the season. premiered. So I have been watching on, um, on the Australian website through my VPN. And I've watched nine episodes, I would say. So season four, one through nine I've watched. And I'm, I'm locked in. This is like a solid a minus for me right now on Love Island. It's good. I just, they're all like, there's some, and I, I say this with love. There's some really. There's some really.

idiots on this show and it's just good bad TV like they just really sometimes say really stupid stuff and I do think sometimes there's a more strategy on Love Island Australia like they're more open about it because they have had scenarios where like the money has been taken at the end by just one person and it feels like people keep that money situation more in mind um they have I think they have like ex-contestants coming in. I know they have, they brought in a guy from like another Australian reality show that had people freaking out too. So it's been juicy. It's been good.

I recommend if you're into Love Island and you need like a little bit of a Love Island fix before the UK winter season, I guess is going to start, I hope, in January. I don't know when exactly the date is. But I'm in on that big time. Dead to me, I have not finished, but I've watched season three, one to four. I'd give that, I'd give it a B plus. I like it. And I am going to finish as well. I just was a little slow to finish, but I'm liking it.

It's kind of not hard to watch because the show, I want to know what happens at the end. And I know people like you said were disappointed by the ending. But it's just like it's kind of, it's heavy, like heavy, not heavy, but it's like hard to watch. The entire season is heavy. Yeah. I did not love band. Yeah. And I didn't love the season.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So as of right now, one through four, I'm, I like it. I watched them very quickly and they had me hooked. I'm trying to think if I watched. I did no movies this week. Been really bad.

I've been really watching the Violent Australia. I tried to watch that. Kristen Bell movie on Amazon Prime, but my Amazon Prime wasn't loading and I was getting really frustrated. Would you recommend it? What did you watch? Are you done? Yeah, I would say some, my, you know, honorable mentions that I don't need to grade, but have been watching The Voice, Dancing with the Stars and those are over, but still watching the Voice and what have I been watching? 9-1-1-1, if anybody watches 9-1 on Fox.

Can't say that I do. Watch. That's another one that I'm banking. And, oh, Game of Thrones. I started, Joe and I are doing a Game of Thrones rewatch. So I am watching Game of Thrones. From the very beginning. From the very beginning, we've done season one, one to three. What inspired that? We just haven't watched in a while. And we finished after like House of the Dragon, we were kind of like, we'd love to go back and watch again. We've only, I've only watched from, I've only watched once. Like, I watched Game of Thrones. Joe and I did like a heavy binge before the last season came out because neither of us had watched and we were like, shit, we want to watch the last season when everybody watches it. So we watched those quickly and then we watched the final season when everybody else watched the final season. But since then, we have not gone back to watch and now knowing everything that happens and whatnot, it is very fun to watch from the beginning and you catch on things that you missed the first time you watched because you didn't know that those were important. So we're doing that And we've watched three episodes

So that's as far as I'm in on my Game of Thrones Maybe I'll go season by season On grades if I want to do that But we've only watched three from the first season But that's what I'm rewatching The first season always feels slow to me When I try to go rewatching I'm like I don't want to watch this

And I skip to like one of the good episodes Yeah I just you know You just miss sometimes you just miss Like little tidbits here and there That make you go huh Yeah I always just skip to Battle of the Bastards Yeah

episode. I did watch the Kristen Bell movie last night, actually. And I actually thought it was... What is that called? The people we hate at weddings. Oh. Oh, yes. I heard that was good.

It was surprisingly, like, I clicked it thinking, like, this is going to suck, but, like, I want to watch something. Yeah. It's a lot of good actors. Yeah, it was surprisingly good. I'll give it a... I was going to give it a C plus, but I'll give it a B-minus for what it is. Like, it's like a good...

It's not up to cuff with your... No, no, like... With your type of cinema? Have you ever watched this is where they, this is where I leave you? Yeah. It's like similar to that, I would feel like. Okay. Yeah, not as good, but solid watch.

I watched, have you heard about that show Chippendales with Kumail Nangeani? I started watching that. Actually, I think it's very good. Interesting. What is that about? Is Nicola Peltz in that one? Nicola Peltz. Brooklyn Beckham's wife?

Yeah, she is. Yeah, I saw that. Wait, who does she play? What is that show about? It's about the guy who started Chippendales. Oh, okay. Yeah, who was played by Kumail. Yeah.

But yeah. And so I would give that... How many episodes have you watched? I've watched two, but I think the third one's out, but I'll give that an A-minus. Nice. Okay. I might watch that. Yeah.

White Lotus, I think B-plus is a solid score. I thought this was a very good episode compared to the other ones. better than the other ones for sure. Yeah. It seems like we're getting somewhere. And then I had the conversation with you where I'm like, do you think, are you caught up or no? No, I haven't watched one second.

Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. I think, this isn't really a spoiler or anything, but it's just like, I think, you think you think she's definitely playing, the prostitute's definitely playing the kid. 100%. But I'm like, I don't know. Maybe it's just like, maybe I'm a hopeless romantic. I'm a hopeless romantic, but I also am.

I think it's half and half. It could go either way. I'm also, you know, hesitant to trust people. And I think she's not asking for any money. I think she's playing him like a fiddle. I think she's doing the, oh, no, the other guy's not paying so that he ends up paying. But she was like, I don't want your money. Like I just like, I saw a very funny.

I think it was on like comments by celebs story of like a tweet. And I haven't even watched it, but just from listening to you guys talk about it made me laugh because it was like characters on White Lotus season two. Like Aubrey Plaza, Arby Plaza's husband. And then like all just like the way everyone, nobody refers to anybody as like their actual character name. People are named... Postitute. I don't think I could tell you one name.

I know their names, but... Yeah. Harper, Cam, could never tell you Aubrey Paz's husband's name. I hate him so much. They all sucks. I don't even... Here's the thing. I hate the girl.

I've been slow to... Portia. Oh, which one is it? The assistant. Jennifer Cool just assistant. I hate her, yeah. I've been slow to watch this one because I'm as old as time with living with a boyfriend or partner.

and when he saw that I started the first season of White Lotus without him, he was very upset. And I was like, I didn't show any interest in watching. It's been a year. The second season's coming out. I'm going to watch because I want to watch it. And he was like, damn, you watched without me, blah, blah. So I was like, we've been going.

Every Sunday night then. I know. We've been going back and forth being like, well, I said, do you just want to watch this second season with me? Because there's no correlation. They're different. Like they're totally different shows. Like it's the same name but different. And he's like that he got upset because he was like, it's the principal.

Like I want to watch the first season before the second. And then so I haven't watched the second season yet because I was like, oh, am I going to start? And then he's going to get it. So last night he came home and said, I will watch the second season without watching the first. So now we can start it. Okay. So we will be doing that. I saw a funny tweet that I retweeted from Chixing Office that was just a picture of Marion Mosby.

And was like, let him run. a white lotus. Yeah, that would be funny. Yeah, there's been a lot of good memes about that of like Mary Key and Ashley or like the cast of like the OC. I like the premise of the show a lot. But some, I'm just like there's sometimes too many storylines going on where you obviously end up caring about one way more than the rest of it. You know what's so funny is my parents picked me and G. Up from the airport when we went for Thanksgiving and they were talking about the season because my dad, they're watching it. But they never watched the first season. They're watching the second. And I'm like, it's so. funny. I'm like, I was like, oh, you guys didn't watch the first season. They're like, no, no, but there's like no connection, right? I was like, no, but you know, it's the same premise, like, murder mystery. And my mom's like, murder mystery. Like, I'm like, mom, are you watching? My dad's like, oh, you, you were out of the room for like the first 10 minutes of the first

episode. She was like never went back and watch. So, so, my mom was like, you know, I was really starting to wonder where the show was going. It was like, you just really missed, like, I think every season starts off with like there's somebody dead. It's just a murder mystery. Which is just so funny that she's just been watching with my dad having no idea that somebody was like obviously killed and that the point is like you want to know who did it. She was like, God, you know, I really was wondering what direction the show was going in. I'm like, yeah, murder mystery. Yeah, for sure.

Have you heard of the show Fleischman is in trouble? Yes. I've watched the first three episodes of that. First two were iffy. and then I like the last one so I'll give it a B overall the first three But I like Jesse Eisenberg The first two episodes are bringing down the average

I like Jesse Eisenberg term Bringing down the average But it's getting That's also like a I'm not going to say anything But like It's entertaining What is that on?

That's on Hulu Nice, okay Sex Lives of College girls I watched I was home and I'm not gonna I found all the time to watch I'm not gonna say that

I'm not gonna pretend that I just don't want to watch because it's like a funny show, but I was home and my sister and mom turned it on. But I would have watched it anyway. Did you watch the first season? Yeah. On your own?

Yeah. Okay, so you weren't just watching because your mom's sister. No, I actually really do want to. It's funny. It's good writing. I actually really do want to watch because I have only heard good things that all my friends love it. Like, I'm the only one of my friends that I think doesn't watch. I think it's not as good as the first season.

I'll give it a, I'll get a B so far. Okay. Second season, but. and then I watched this movie the other night How did you find the time? I told you though I do a lot of multitasking

Yeah I feel like you're also like We're going back to Thanksgiving I can't even remember I was watching a lot of love I'm not putting everything And I talked about the menu which was great The Last time

But the vanishing It's on It's with Gerald Butler Gerard Butler Gerald Butler Gerald Butler It came out a few years ago

but it was on Netflix, and I'll give it a B-minus. Okay. Interesting movie. And then I watched 13 Lives, the movie 13 Lives, which is new, this came out this year. I think it's like part of the whole Oscar. Oh, they're having heard of that. It's about the soccer team in Thailand. Oh, yes.

Who got caught under the caves. Yes, I heard that that's a real fucking heart like you're watching and it is intense. I'll give that a B-plus. It was very, it's what you would expect. Is it a documentary or is it's like a fictionalized movie? Yeah, yeah. And the way they do it. Of the real story.

It's very cool. The way they tell the story is unique. Do you think Oscar-worthy? Yeah. I don't think it'll win anything probably. But, like, nominated. Yeah. It's part of, like, my dad just through his job, he gets the movie sent to him, which I always

used to brag about it as a kid. Like, because we'd get the movies sent to our, I remember watching the Wolf of Wall Street, like months before it came out in our living room. You must have felt. As on DVD, like, yeah, yeah. It has the thing that comes up like, this is like. Brow worthy. Illegal, yeah.

So this is always when they start to come in. So when we were home for Thanksgiving, just popped that in. But I think it's on Amazon, too, 13 lives. Nice. Very nice. Well done, Noah. Good week for you. Yeah, you clocked in some good hours.

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I don't know. Oh, you mean? No, no, no. I mean, I do. I think Instagram, like, hates me. Half the time I don't show up for people. So I can't really think about that, you know, because then I'll be like, why I'm it. So I, yeah, but people are very engaged. You used to be, like, always my first story. And I went away. And then, like, now you're, like, down the line more. I don't know why that is. Probably. Who can keep up? Like, I'm not going to keep saying bitch. I'm going to say bitch. You know what I mean? I've given up. I'm trying not to be shadow banned at this point because whatever. Also, if you don't make real. They get mad at you too. They keep on offering me money. Have you accepted? No. You're like, you could have made $382 in the past three months if you signed up. Right, right.

Other influencers are signing up. Mine's like you could have made $1.15 if you signed up for that real. Definitely. Yeah, 100%. I mean, yeah. But people maybe who like making reals. Yeah, yeah. No, they need to chill a little bit.

But you are always like, like, like, Like I am clicking your story as soon as it goes up, like, almost like an embarrassing, like, it would be like 52 seconds. And I'm like, I click that way too fast. Why did you start like not put, I mean, you kind of do post everything on there. I do just post everything. Yeah. Does it just come natural to you now? Like you're just like, I'm just going to get all my thoughts out here.

Yeah. That's what it is. It's like not it's like the opposite of curated. Yeah. Like even my screenshots turn out ugly somehow. the text is like their typos. I think it's because for me that's kind of, I used to send like my sister shit, right?

I see something be like, I chewed it over. Like DM be like, oh my God. And then the way my Instagram transitioned from like, I started with memes in 2015. The way it shifted into like more pop culture, celebrities and just everything else was like one day just instead of sending it to my sister, I was like, oh, maybe they'll care about this, you know? And then I did. And then I just kept on sharing every single thing. Because I realized I think with time that like if I care about it, like they'll care about it. Because they care about stupid or shit than I care about. Like sometimes they're like, but did you see? And I'm like, that's really stupid. So so then I'm like if I see, if something pops up on my like for you page that's a cute little throwback even of like Selena Gomez. Like why wouldn't you want to see it? It's a cute little bit. So I just kind of share everything that I.

come across that I see that I think is interesting. And if I really thought about like what everybody would want to see, then I probably wouldn't do what I do. Because then there's so much stuff. There's so many shows. There's so many celebrities. There's so many different sectors. Like not everybody cares about The Bachelor, but not everybody cares about fucking, you know, Netflix shows. So yeah, it's kind of just like everything. Do you always get like good gossip that I think people, not people like miss out on sometimes. Yeah. Do people send you a lot of stuff that they're like, Amanda, you have to post this.

Yeah. Well, no, they won't see you have to post, but they're like, oh my God. And a lot of times, like, my followers are more up to date than me. Right. And a lot of times. You kind of like Dumas of Dumas was a public person sometimes. Yes. Like, not with like spottings or anything like that.

Not like tips, but like, hey, did you guys like see who unfollowed? this person. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, if people send me tips, I'm, unless it's like really fucking good. I'm usually not going to post it because, like, I don't know if it's true or like pictures of people. That makes me feel weird. Somebody just sent me with love is blind, like a picture of Raven and S.K. At Costco. I couldn't post it. I was like, that feels so weird. Like, I know DeMois does it and like, but I just felt weird about it. But yeah, a lot of times, for example, this is a random example, but I just, I paid attention to it because I'm like, I told the girl, okay, so this girl sends me, and it's so random to what I see, because obviously I can't read all my shit,

but I try to at least like skim because there could be gold in there. Like, I don't know what could be a hidden gem. So somebody was like, oh my God, I don't know if you'll care, but Trish, like, look at this story. And then I click it and it's Trish Cyrus, which like, I don't follow Myrish's mom. And she's with Tish. Wait, is it Trish. She was like, I don't follow her mom. Who's Trish? Yeah, Tish.

Tish. That's why we go for all your Hot Fultor news and updates. So she is dating Dominic Pyrrissil from Prison Break. Super hot. I watched the show. So I was like, oh my God, this is such a hot, like, older couple. So I told the girls like, oh, my God, I'm going to post this.

And then I love. looked online, I was like, it's no way. And she told me she's like, I've been seeing, she's been posting them for weeks and like nobody cares. Nobody's picking up on it. I was like, and not in an overconfident way, I was like, they will now. Yeah, yeah. Literally, I posted this story and then, you know, I knew, like, all the headlines. And, um, and I told the girl, she, I was like, you, it came from, from her. Um, so a lot of times my followers because of things, I can't follow everyone in the world. So yeah, a lot of times they'll be like, have you seen this? And then I'll see it for myself.

So that's really helpful. Thank you for your support of the cause. But, but yeah, so that's a cool thing. It's helpful for us. I mean, we like to do we go through it? We talk about you all the time. I'm like, I saw this on. When we're sitting and brainstorming before recording a podcast or something,

we'll be going through like topics we want to talk about. And both of us will always be like, she'll say, oh, did you see this? And I was like, oh, on not skating, not fact story. Thank you. Do you think that there's some things that people would, think you'd be really interested in. You're like, I really just don't care about this at all. And then there's other things that you're weirdly really interested in because that's where I fall, where I'll get really passionate about a story that I see that I have no idea why, but for some reason, it's really

peaking my interest. And then when it comes to like something really big, I'm like, okay. Well, I, right, yes. I think, well, first of all, the royals, it's like getting into that. Yeah. Like I've said, I'll be like, I've never cared about. I'll, I said like something. And then like, whoa. And I'm like, I'm never going to week again because I don't I'm not a royal so I think the royals is one of them um ozampic I got really hot and bothered about yeah I was following that on your which again and I saw a commercial it I mean I'm not giving myself credit but it's like a lot of things I knew about ozempic from somebody in like Hollywood yeah that told me about it like a while ago was like by the way everyone's and then I was talking to her about it is it like a shot a shot yeah so I saw a commercial for it

at the other day that it was? Yeah, yeah, that one. Yeah, it's very catchy. They have a very catchy, Jamie. I want to sing it every time I see. Yeah, yeah. I'll see a picture of like certain celebrity and I'll just be like, yeah.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Yeah. All these celebs and that I was, I mean, I could keep going. There are things that just, I want to talk around all day. And then people are like, I think people are into it, but it's also such a fine line. I'm not going to call anybody out, you know, that's on it. That's not fair to anybody.

So that had to end at some point. But I was so, you guys, I went to the, to my, like, annual PCP. And I was like, in my head, I was like, should I do an experiment? And ask. And just be like, I'm just feeling a bit. You just turned into an investigative reporter. I was like, I went on the inside. I gained five pounds. I don't know.

Is there anything to do? Like, I was highly debating it because that's how much. So many people are interested in it. And how much my DMs. were blowing up with stories. Like, I was offered it and med spas and advertisements and like all the shit. Medspa's crazy. Medspas is crazy.

And the fact that Hollywood is like open about it. And then I listen to Chelsea Handler. She talks about it freely on her podcast. Like all this shit. Then now that I know about it is everywhere, everywhere. And now like, yeah, they're all talking about it. And now you can't see people without thinking like, are they? I know.

And if I take a hot picture of myself, I almost want to be like, I swear, it's not as that big is a really good angle. Like I swear. Yeah. And I feel like I also really liked what you said about the Belenziaga stuff because it's like taken on a whole like different like a life of its own. It's like a side story of like. And you're like no, this is they still made a mistake. Like it's not some giant Q&on conspiracy.

Yeah. I mean that's the thing with this. It's like, wow, the Belenciaga thing is crazy. And it's if I'm getting like, how aren't you talking about that where I am? Imagine what like Kim Kreda. now she isn't getting. I mean, I don't know if she's alive this woman. Yeah. But obviously, major fuck up. Obviously, what the fuck is going on. But I think I'm such a naive person where I'm like, but why wouldn't they do that? Like, I still don't get it. I'm more like, what's the intent?

What's the motivation? Why? But obviously there are facts and the facts are these things were there. So why are, why is the media trying to cover for them where they're saying like, this happened? It's not our fault, but like it happened. No one's trying to lie. that it wasn't there. It's incredibly strange. We talked about it the other day and we're like, we just can't wrap our heads around. I think my take on it was the bear situation and all that was like poor taste.

Like the vision that they had was totally different than how people took it. And then they could have been like, you know what? We didn't even think of it like this. But now that you're bringing it up, oh my God. But then when it got even weirder with like the court documents, I was like, all right, this is really strange. Like there's something weird. There's something weird.

Like suing the marketing firm or whatever the other. It was like you're Blentzio. Somebody saw the pictures before they went out. Yeah. Before they went up. Do you find it hard to talk about the Kardashians now because you feel a little bit closer to them? Yeah. I think that, you know, I'll say this to anybody.

Like, if they had a relationship with them, you wouldn't fucking talk about them too. You know what I mean? If they gave you exclusive interviews and were super friendly to you, you wouldn't be like, well, fuck that. I'm like, you don't know if you have had the big three on your podcast. Yes. The big three. Are you Julia Fawkes over here?

Excuse me. On your show. Yeah. Which was, all the interviews were amazing and so fun. But yes, I could, I would, I'd imagine that I'd be like, oh, I kind of, I don't really like this one thing that they did, but I'm not going to post it. I mean, the thing is like, if it's, I'm not going to, first of all, but if it's a joke, I feel like they can take a joke. Yeah, they can take a lot.

Yeah. Like, I can, I feel very comfortable. talking about like clothing choices. First of all, the Jenner's are a whole other story. I don't care about. I can talk about that as much as I want. But and I talk, I do cards catch up like a show that I got it before then. And they're like fully talk like, you know, I'll say pretty much anything.

But it's in obviously no one's trying to bash them, right? E isn't trying to bash them. People on the internet really want to bash them. And it's like, what I say is this isn't the place for that. You're going to find a lot of other accounts that want to do that all day. But even literally objectively about Kim, I wouldn't focus on her anyway. Right.

People are taking the Valenciaga thing and just want to be like, well, when it came to, and when I said? And it's like, do you care about what happened or do you care about if Kim is speaking out? And if you're going to be that big on it

with celebrities or so many other celebrities, I said this, like Nicole Kidman had her Balenciaga Spring campaign photos up on her Instagram, like not taken down, still posted. Everyone's like,

why aren't, why isn't everyone yelling at Nicole Kidman? They'll look for anything to tear out. And do you think, like Kim Kardashian? like supports pedophilia like that's what you literally or like that Kylie was like was posting pictures of her kid to distract oh my god don't you know that no no don't you love that Balenciaga news she was like

thought that that Kim uh that Pete and Amrata's photo came out at the time on purpose yeah like people literally think yeah Pete is dating Amrata yeah for Kim to post about balenciaga and them to take that and I'm like oh my God so yes it is obviously it becomes harder but it's also like. Sometimes people really lose common sense when it's like common sense and also like it's not that complicated. It's like when Julia Fox said that she started dating Kanye for Kim. Right. No. No. No. I didn't. She had me like I was so into her from what the, what's the video I love? The aging one. And then with this one, I'm like, are you okay? Like you did not start dating Kanye for Kim. Like that didn't happen. And people bought it though. That's why you guys don't

understand. Like, I comment... She's a girl's girl. Yes. People... Like, no, not really. No, I really think she meant that. It's like, would you do that? No, she...

No. Why, she did it for her career. And she also said that Kanye wasn't that kind of guy around her. So if you're saying you only did it to help Kim, but also saying Kanye wasn't that kind of guy around you and that he was a different guy around you,

so you did like him. So it wasn't for Kim. Yeah. Very bizarre. The whole thing is bizarre. So I want to ask you about your podcast, too, because I always love like when

when you do your shows kind of solo I'm just like that must be so hard because I just I always have Rhea to bounce off of I'm like it's pretty impressive when you can just do it on your own. Yeah I actually like it less like I do like to bounce off someone more I think

it's I think a lot of podcasters do solo pods and a lot of people like it but I I really enjoy having guests Yeah. Like, because I'll tell you what, my Instagram is so, um, timely, right? It's like, if it's not in the moment, like, yeah, it could be before the moment, you know? A day later, you're like, no one cares about us anymore. So my podcast, imagine it's like, you put it in and then it has to be edited. So I'm going to talk in a week about something that happened last week. So I feel like with the, this industry, like it can't be. Yeah. A usual thing. So I sometimes doing it's nice to like, I like giving like kind of background. Like whenever I did a big interview, it's like, like, telling everybody kind of how it went and probably, you know, going against the NTAs that I signed. But, but yeah, I like having guests and it's become, I'm sure you guys feel this too. Like podcasts have become kind of a stop on like tours, press tours. Yeah.

Like people, like pitches have gotten so many more pitches of guests that I didn't even think of. Like it used to be, oh, if I like someone, I'll ask them on the podcast. If not, I'll do a solo. Yeah, yeah. And now it's like there's so much going on and so many people to talk to and people that I didn't even know. But I'm like, I still want to have them because they seem cool and they're doing cool things. And so yeah, it's become really cool because it's like I wasn't, you know, I feel like it's a skill. Obviously to talk to people and you have to like learn it and get better at it.

So something I'm really proud of. What was the process of getting Kim on the show first? Because I feel like once you got one, it was like the other sisters were like, oh, we can do her show. Yeah, that's what's funny. I kept on telling Courtney. Well, Courtney was like my big love. Like I was always her team before even the like most interesting to look at vibe. But Kim happened first.

So I wouldn't ever ask them on a podcast like who would think. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Like who would do that? It's like we don't do podcasts.

Yeah. Like no. But so they reach out to me, which is a wild, wild thing. I got an email from. Hulu like into my like I have a not skinned off how dot com. Yeah yeah yeah. I have a contact me page and it came through there and I was like what kind of troll is a spell? No like I was like this is a new low to like really try to hurt me and it was basically like hi like writing from Hulu the Kardashians is moving. Don't know if you heard

wanted to see if you're interested in having Kim Kardashian on and I'm like what? And this is how they do it Like who reaches out? And that's what's so wild And then I I googled the lady Found her on LinkedIn was like This is fucking I was like getting my nails And I was like

A real person I was like Amy do you care Like no one cares Who do I tell Like freaked out And said like You know I was like

I was like let me think about it Fucking yes Like what? Are you kidding me like Died And kept them telling myself, like, this is not going to happen. Like, yeah, they reach out, but, like, it probably won't. And then it happened was, like, super fucking cool.

That is truly insane. I think that everyone who followed you was also just as excited for you. Because you can just tell that you just appreciated to follow them and, like, genuinely love them. Yeah. And so it was awesome to see. And also made them, like, humanize them. Yeah. Which you're like.

Podcasts are very good at humanizing people. That's the thing. Because you get to actually have a full-length conversation. I actually do feel like. I'm like, how did you guys, I almost wanted to say to her like, why are you doing, you know, like, why would you want to come on my podcast? Like, you don't need this, but they're so always thinking about the next thing. And they're so self-aware, I feel like, which is I love about them. And I feel like she just thought, like, that it would be a good thing.

Yeah. Like that she literally thought 335 million followers, you know, isn't enough. Let's reach more people. And I mean, I obviously really appreciated the opportunity and it's wild. Yeah. And then I got home. I was like on a high high. I got home from L.A.

And then I got a message from like their team being like, so when's Chloe? And I was like, are you shrieving me? You're like, I would have to come back. Or is she coming to New York? No. Okay, Calabasas. Yeah. It's like you go to Calabasas.

You know what I mean? So Courtney was the hardest one to get. No, so Courtney, I then when I became like friendlier with them. had talked to her about it and she was like oh my god like maybe like blah blah blah but I could tell I was like you know what Courtney she's not a talker we've seen her on the show so I never brought it up again

I was like she and when I saw it at like the few events that I saw her I was like jealous Kim did it I was trying to like hit it where it hurts you know and she was like we'll do a day we'll do a day I don't know if you guys saw it she said whatever I was like hey when's the day

so again and I'm working out and And then it actually happened. The way things happen is so wild because people think these things. And you guys probably know from booking your show and meeting influencers. Today influencers, day two, have like PR teams agents. Right. Fucking. You're like, are you a human?

Right. They, on the other hand, you would think people are like, they have, you know. The way my podcast with Courtney happened is I gave up totally. I'm just staring at your tits there in the photo. The way the corny interview happened is I had step shop on that was super. super cool. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. It was a really cool one actually because no one knows her. Yeah. I'm like, so you're really cool looking. Yeah. You're really like, just like, I want to wear everything you wear. Yeah. But like, tell us about you. So it was a really cool one. And then we left the studio and Steph was like, did Simon talk to you about having Courtney? And I was like, what? And she was like, we were talking like, she should do it. And I was like, no one told me. And she was like, and this is before Lemmy came out. Right. And she was like, oh, she told Simon to like talk to you and I was like he didn't say that and I'd like Sean Nicole like I don't know like he didn't mention and and she was like yeah I even told her like if she wants to do it before me and I was like wasn't part of this conversation yeah and then I think that night she had her event for her like perfume with sniff whatever and then Simon told me they're like oh yeah we want Courtney to do it and I was like okay and then Courtney was there too and she was like yeah I'm gonna do it I was like okay what day yeah and that's literally how it happened and until the day and then and then simon

it's like oh the 27th because lemme's the 28th and this is yeah and i was like okay and i literally booked my ticket not knowing where we're filming it not knowing anything like i trusted that it would happen and like the day of they were like it's at corny's house and like my podcast team obviously came but it's just wild the way things happen because people always think things are right way more grand and like teams and team like Simon literally the one who organized this like her friend fucking Simon yeah I feel like when you get that big they make all the decisions so it's like when you're an influencer or like kind of on a lower level you have people like telling you you should do this and you should do that and of course they make the final decision but for the Kardashians they're like no we

want to do this true so no one's going to tell them no you're not going on her podcast because they're like no I'm going to go on her podcast they make the decisions and then they have the people working for them, like making it happen. But with Chloe, it was her assistant. With Kim, it was Tracy. That's her right hand. Like, there aren't, you know, loads of people. Like, with everybody else, it's like PR and this and that.

And actually with them, it's like, not the easiest, but the most straightforward in a way. Because I feel, like, we've had people that have wanted to come on our show, but then their people cancel or say no. Yeah. And it's like, but they want to come on. Do you know what I fucking hate when I get a pitch from a fucking PR person? And then I'm like, okay, I'll do this person that I don't really care about, but it's kind of cool, which I told you.

Yeah. And then and then they don't fucking like share it. I'm like, you has to come on my show. You're like, where's the reshare on the story? No, that's a huge deal to me because it's like I wouldn't expect Kim to share it and she fucking linked it thousands of times. It's almost the bigger ones though that are nice. Like they know. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like Adrina. Thank you. But no. Yeah. So things like that. I'm like, I read your fucking book. Yeah.

You know what I mean? For you to come on. And I fucking did. Yeah. Yeah. I know I'm the one that reads the books. When they have the book coming out, I'm the one that reads the book.

I mean, reading the books is a whole new level. We had a, we went through a stint of like a six weeks span where we had just every person who was coming out of the book. And we, We just have them all pile out somewhere. So at first I was like, I'm not reading the books. And I had Jenny Mullen on.

Yeah. Well, she's fantastic. Well, she's amazing. But that's why I was like, she's amazing. We'll talk about other things. And then my friend was like, read like a page in the middle and then like bring up something from that page. And I did that. I was like, this line about your chin.

And no, you guys are going to die. So have this whole conversation with her without reading the book. Yeah. Finish. And I'm like, oh, my God, I got through that. And then she's like, what are you doing on June 14th? And I'm like, what am I doing on June 14th? Like on my podcast.

And she's like, moderating my book event. And I'm like, yes. And then I had to read the book. But I can't believe I got through this. Yes, I love the book. The book is so great. I can't wait to talk about it. We must have to be careful at how much you say that you love the book.

But since then, I've started reading the books. But it's a huge thing. What comedian went on? Someone made a really good job. joke that was like when I I think it was Michael Tay. Love him. He was like when I have my own talk show no one's coming on to promote their book. I'm not reading

anybody's fucking book. Yeah. Yeah I feel that. I've said that in the past where I'm like I wish we could just like have people on that just want to like have a conversation and not promote it and not promote stuff but then you're like you don't get them on unless they want to promote something. But I think the people that are smart know that like people that have been in business for a while know that obviously this isn't. You can't come and just be like a QVC, right?

They'll wait to the end. But it's funny when it's like, so, you know, so-and-so wants to come on and talk about her new line. And it's like, no one's going to care. She has to talk about her ex-boyfriend and like all the other shit. And at the end, get to her line. So when people don't get that. So I think the Kardashians, speaking of them, get it.

Yeah. And when you had Ashley Tisdill, I think that's like, too. And we had her on our show as well. And it was the same thing that promoting her line. and stuff, but, like, she was open to talking about all other stuff. Everything goes back. I can't, like, think of a specific person, but it will make me laugh when we have somebody on and, like, it just goes back to, like, every, like, every question goes back.

Like, oh, well, in chapter, blah, blah, blah, my book and you're like, no, no, no, get off the book. Like, I feel like sometimes that happens. It's rare. But you're like, okay, they just, like, they talked about their Christmas movie the entire time. Their Christmas movie. Oh, my God, who's that? Okay.

You know who did it? like blatantly, this was the most shocking one for me. Luanne de Licebbs. So I had her on 10 minutes in where I'm like, so Ramona was so wild at your party or whatever. And she's like, sorry, honey, honey, honey, honey. She like, stopped me. I was like, oh, my God. And she was like, when are we going to talk about my cabaret?

Yes. You guys are not even lying. That was the line. I was like, are you Luan in real life like you are in the show? And it threw me off so much that I was like, you know. about it now and like I wrapped the interview up early because I was like how like this is yeah so

I love talking about her cabaret I mean it's real it's all very real yes yes we've had her on a few times she's always it's always cabaret we're supposed to go to her show non-alcoholic wine oh how's that going which I don't know if it's out I think it is I have no idea

I would actually still love to go to her cabaret I think yeah watching yeah experiencing it how did we ever go I don't know she's doing it again. She's doing it again. She always does it around the holiday season. So this is the time. And it always sells out. It's always like a ticket are expensive. But if it's all like Bravo people that are like actually, if it's ironic, then yes. If it's like for realsies, then. No, I think it's like major for reals. I think it's for real. Like I think we would have fun time.

Yeah. But I think they're taking it for like. You've got to go like a good group. Yeah. You got to like bring a lot of people around for that. But. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of been, I feel like we've kind of had a little bit of a lull in, like, good. I feel like Pete Davidson and Emily Radikowski definitely made people freak out. But I just feel like there hasn't been anything. That interesting. Massive. Yeah.

How do you think that's happened in like the last month. But I feel like at the end of the year, people start to calm down. Yeah, they're like, we're going to focus on the holidays. Yeah. And the family and stuff. How do you think Kim took the Emily Radikowski and Pete? Davidson. Oh my God, I'd love to know. I'm like dying to know that. I don't know why. It's my one thing where I'm like, you know what? She's for sure like eye rolling. Yeah. I said that I'm jealous of

Emily Radikowski just because she probably knows what happened between Kim and Pete Davidson. Like, not even for the fact that she's dating Pete David's just like she probably knows who broke up with who. Well, I can tell you who broke up with who. I heard. Can you? Yeah. Who broke up with Yeah. We can cut it out if you don't want it. No. I said this to my people, but they sometimes don't believe me and I'm like when I tell you something it's because I know yeah yeah Kim broke up with him but it's so obvious really see I agreed with you and she I thought that maybe Pete broke up with I know first of all I would know when they started dating I was like she's gonna break his heart like I knew it was gonna happen that felt so obvious to me that I wanted to take the other path

and go maybe Pete broke up with Kim but yeah that's kind of like a no doubt and don't you realize that it happened okay so what I heard from a farm yeah is that she broke up with him because it was getting like too serious and it was getting too serious and she was into it for funsies. Okay. That adds up. He got the kids fucking name statute. He went on a show. I forget who it was.

Was it Kevin Hart's Heart to Heart? Yeah. And he was like, I want kids and family. And it happened right, I think, after that. So I think it all kind of when I was told this made sense because first of all, that's what I thought would happen. And then he was like quick to go remove. tattoo. You think that she was like, hey, hey, babe, maybe let's not get the tattoo? I think he's really intense. Yeah.

Yeah. So like there's no stopping him. He's like, no, I'm doing this. I'm getting the tattoo. That's a thing. Like I feel like maybe. Let's look at the track record. Like we know and he's himself self-admitted that he's like that hopeless romantic. He like jumps right in like really quick and fast. And they're like sweet light. And it's like, do you forget he also is dark? You know what I mean? Like he's open about all of those mental hell shit. and, you know, he proposed Ariana Grande and like, what was it? Like, not even a month. It was really

because I'm having issues with him and I was, I've been saying this for a while that like, I don't buy it. You said, why does everybody leave him? You said that on your story where you were like, why aren't these things lasting? Well, why aren't these lasting? But also, I don't buy the San Island smoking weed, my mom, all this shit. No, you're like gold digger or something. Like,

not gold digger, but you're a famous hot lady person. Like you're not this chill guy used to be dating Carly Aquilino or, you know. Cassey David. Right. You're going after Kim Kardashian. Emerada. Like, who are you? A womanizer? Taking Emrada. Taking Emrada to the next game. How fucking. So I don't go into the conspiracies of she's doing it, you know, he got the tickets and

invited Emily there. And, like invited Emily there. knowing fully, this is a fact. Like this isn't one of the conspiracies fans make. He took her to the game knowing people would see them together. That's very... I mean, Kim, you took her to the San Island movie theater

and like a restaurant in San Island, probably because she wanted it to be private. Yeah. So he... So is he the... Is he a giant, thirsty tiger? My question. And everyone thinks he's like chill? He's not chill. There's like the... The paparazzi video really cracked me up of when he went to like go pick her up and then there was paparazzi there

and he just like drove away. I was like, oh my God, I can't believe he just drove off and went home. If I were her, it was performative. Yeah, but I feel like if I were her, I'd be like you, they already saw us. I can't just get in your fucking car. You had to drive back home and I have to get an Uber also calling her Emily feels so official. Like I can never just call her Emily. No, no, no. Can you get her on your podcast? We tried. Yeah. And it was a no. If I had to guess from her. I thought she would come on mine. I got confident. I was like maybe.

I thought she would go on yours. I don't think she would come on yours. With us on like the Barstool thing would be, she would be anti. Oh, because she would be like, I hate everyone in this building. Yeah. She did the only, I mean, this does not help at all, but she, I think she did call her daddy when Alex was still with Barstool. Oh, she did? She did?

I'm pretty sure. No. Was it like just after? No. She didn't recently. No. She just did. really I thought it was like when she just did it

I think she did it last summer and I think she was still because I think that's where my Alex by herself it was Alex by herself but I was like hey maybe since she did I mean like obviously anybody will do call her daddy but I was like yeah but I think it was still under barstool which made me think oh if she did it while I was with barstil I don't think maybe I'm wrong though I could be definitely wrong but I think that was like my thought process

yeah yeah yeah if she did it while it was still with barstall like maybe well she doesn't like me, I think. I don't know if you guys were following me then. Excuse the dog because that's a small following. And you have a small following. Yeah. She said, she said you have a small following. She, um, she, like referred to men as like a woman on the internet with a small following. Yeah. But she also talked shit about, whatever. She talks shit about Brie, too recently with the Boa situation. But it's funny because it's like the way she does it. She can't take a joke. That's why I made the joke of like. The way she does it is funny

because she blocks so as barber. It's like just like, yes. Yes. I saw that. Like, like, you can say people's names, like the way she does it is like, well, there was this person. She could say. You know exactly what her name. I was like, please say girl from the internet and not woman with a small following. Like that. It sounds like I'm like from Kansas. Like in my basement.

You have like a little mommy blog, actual, like a straight up cult. But I would love to like, you know, open that up with her because I don't, I think she thinks other women don't like her because he's hot. And it's really wild to me. I literally, I literally start, like, start religions for hot people. Like, I will pray and, but she. There are some things that, some things that she say, I'm like, yes, I totally agree. And some things that I'm like, all right.

But don't you sometimes feel like she's, like, made by man? Because she says all these anti-men things, which then she's like, I just love being fucked. What can I do? And it's like, she's saying all the perfect things that every man would want to hear. I think that I just can't get on board with all the anti-men things all the time. because I'm just like if you like you had a husband, you made a kid. Yeah. You do like men.

Like you date men. Yeah. You know what I mean? She's probably been really burned. I hope Pete Davidson lions that up. And you also mentioned like what's Pete Davidson's personality requisite for these women? Right. Because they're all different.

I actually brought that up on our show. I was like she had a really good point being like every, you know, they're all beautiful, successful women, but like where is the personality? Like Leonardo DiCaprio dated exclusively like Vitori Secretary. models. Nobody was like, what is he like? Like. But Pete Davidson, we give him more credit than to Leo. We're like he's so funny and so cool. But obviously it's like whole date anybody really hot and famous. So I'm just saying because if she can't take a joke, not going to go out publicly. No. Then what if he says something that's like off? She blocks Celeste Barber. I mean, she's so funny. I know. I know. Celeste is hilarious. And like also it's if you can't laugh at yourself and the way that. You know, what you're

you post sometimes, then your, the self-awareness is not that. And that's where you lose me. That's where you lose me too. Like if you don't, like, if you're going to post all that shit and not be like, oh, yeah, I mean, ha-ha, I get it. I do like. And like, it's about your hotness. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Like, people are making fun of your hotness. Like how hot you are. It's not like we're like how dumb you are. But I think it's clearly very sore subject for her because it's like she talks about how she didn't get any movie roles because she's too high. You know what people from the industry told me? What?

She didn't get movie wrong because she's not fucking good. She's not fucking good. Like, there's so many hot people. You're too pretty. You're just too hot. Margo Robbie. Like, you know,

that's where we draw the line. Camera's just going to burst into flames. Like, Margot Robbie and Wall Street is like the hottest person of all time. But you're way too hot. Way too hot. Yeah. That's such a fucking good point.

So that's my thing. It's like, women love hot women. like we're not your enemy. But that was the way that you spun that in such a good way and you made the merch and all the stuff. And now I feel like it's an inside joke. Small following. I don't know. The small thing that's like 700,000 people now.

Yeah. I mean, then it wasn't small. It was like 400. You know what I mean? Like then I was like, but I'm small to her. You know, and that's okay. Yeah. I don't think other famous people would say that about, you know what I mean?

So I felt like it wasn't, I didn't feel like it was a dig. I felt like that's what you just. genuinely thought. Yeah, yeah. But I still, you know, I really don't hate her or anything. I just think that she thinks of things not correctly. Yeah. Do you still follow the Bachelor at all?

I know that you follow, but you haven't been watching. Yeah. Which is we are. I know. I do like, I do like, should I go back and watch? Like, I love all of the couples that came out of there. Like Michael A. and Danielle, where they snooze? No, that's my favorite couple from there.

I'm rooting for them. I think in a lot of the bachelor. Just the show in general. was kind of like, are we going to watch Zach? We have to watch it. Oh, okay. But like, do you want to? I mean, I do because I just don't like know how I wouldn't.

Like, I would just see people posting about it and be like, what the fuck am I doing? So I thought that, but I didn't watch Gabby and Rachel and I didn't feel any phone-mo. So I didn't watch The Bachelor up until we started working together and she was like, you need to watch the show. And the first, I watched a little bit of Kailen Bristow season just kind of like, with my friends, but then the first full season I watched was Ari, which was obviously, like, a really good season. And then after that was really good season, like Hannah Brown season, I thought was great. P-L-L-P, I thought was great.

All these really great. They got bad, I feel like now. And right now I'm like, okay, this is so repetitive. None of these couples last, like, besides if they're on Bachelor in Paradise, what are we doing here? Like, they need to change a format. I just am personally losing interest. and I do think other people feel that way.

Like I don't think it's just me. Like I know. I stopped watching. But I really critical of the show. You have watched for so long. You're always going to watch. Because I picked it up later, it was just like a little bit. I got literally bullied to stop.

Like I feel like my followers were like stop watching it. Yeah. Hours are very mixed. You posted a poll. And it was like 10%. And I was like, oh my God. How are the most of me watch? But it's crazy because it is still like our, some of them.

our biggest episodes are still with Bachelor things. Like our Gabby and Rachel interview was like one of our biggest interviews of the year. Like people, as much as they like to say like, oh, we don't care about the bachelor anymore. It's like people still care. So the need is there. But I also think I'm interested in the drama, but just not watching episodes. Yeah. I think that's what it is.

I like, I have FOMO. I am so happy I know all these real life people. Like, you know, I want to know what's going on in the real life relationships and the drama and what's happening with. Colton and Caitlin Bristow and Jason Tardek. I love that I know all these people, but I am pretty confident that like the season that I missed out on, which was Gabby and Rachel, no one's going to be talking about like Brendan. I feel like the people that are important, I feel like I know about. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

And they have the biggest reaction. I do think a lot of people now have been talking about how just the show, like, structure and paradise and editing is different. And it's like, did that, did like the change of the guard happen where people, people like once i think once elon left he was good the show like changed a lot and he really like ran that show so i think like him leaving was a big thing for like how the show is done but yeah like you're always going to see victoria f and like all those shit that she's doing which is what was like the biggest drama from this paradise season she and gregg are now like planning on moving in together in

nashville he's going to like move into her house why do they all move to nashville like if you were living in Nashville, wouldn't you be like, leave all Bachelor and Reality TV people? I have talked to people that live in Nashville where they're like, people need to stop coming. Why are they going there? Is it like, I think it's the stop before Los Angeles. Yeah, and like, feel like a lot of people have like aspiring music careers. They like think that they could maybe take the next step. No, no, no. But I think other people that like move to Nashville. As for them

moving in together, I'm like, you know what, they're going to go for it. Go for it. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Go for the whole thing. Because if it's not going to work, it won't work. But if it does... The whole thing, the whole season was really, she wants to get married, she wants to have kids. Like, she's ready for all that. I don't say that.

He can't handle her. So if Greg, like, wants to just... It's continuing her ideas, I guess. I feel like he can handle her. I think she eats everyone up and spits him out. Yeah. That's what I think, too. I feel like he's not man enough.

Like, he's so cute. Like, such a cutie. But no, he cannot. She's gonna... She needs somebody who's going to yell at her. Like in an appropriate way. You know what I mean? Who season was she on?

Not like Johnny. Who season? Pets. Pilot Pete's another one. He would not. Yeah. I know that sounds bad. Like someone was going to yell at her.

But I mean like an appropriate. Not call her a fucking cunt. You know, like knock it off. Okay. But let's talk about this. We love each other like for a minute. So I didn't watch it.

But I just saw a clip from her going on Nick Vial's and she's like, and then he called. Like, is she really still hurting over this? Or is she really trying to sensationalize, sensation a lot. it and make everyone hate him. I think that I think it definitely hurt her but I also think it's been brought up as like the main thing because it just helps her side of like I needed to move on. Yeah. And I found someone who doesn't. Was he cute on the show Johnny? Um, I mean

I think it was also really hard for her. She like, they filmed Paradise before she even saw like any of Johnny on Gabby and Rachel's season. And Johnny literally like broke up with Gabby because he was like I'm not ready to like be engaged and so I think she was like how did you jump from that to like four weeks later being in paradise proposing to me

and that was maybe maybe an issue and I guess Johnny was like he said she was being she was like acting like he said I was like you are one not you are one but I thought was interesting and I didn't listen

to the whole podcast but I saw some things that Nick Viol wrote, which I thought was true. And I'm kind of just like, I think Victoria was wrong in some ways. I think Johnny was wrong in some ways. They just weren't compatible. And I think what Nick wrote was true. Like, I think people can relate to this where like you've been in a situation where you end something with somebody and it's over in your head, but that person can't accept it. And they keep wanting to have talks and like, keep wanting to get answers from you. And like, you answer until it's enough. But you're already done. done with it. And also on the other side of that, like, you being the one told that it's over

and still wanting to talk and find out answers. And I think that's what happened with Victoria and Johnny where Victoria was done, but Johnny kept wanting answers. So she kept kind of like answering and giving him. But she was already done, but they were having talks or whatever it was to like fill whatever he needed to find out. But the whole drama is like if it overlapped, right? And did it? They're claiming no. But people think, yeah. But people think, yeah. People like kind of think yes, people thought like her timeline wasn't adding up, but I don't. It's just like. Are we shipping Greg and Victoria Ave?

I kind of like them together. At this point they're going all in. So I'm like, whatever. Like if they're like, do whatever you want. I don't know. Do you remember how much hate he got on Katie season now? Yeah, so much. So much.

So much. Rio. I was a little. I was. Because he's cute, Ria? No, no. It was just because I really didn't like Katie at all. Yeah.

And I was like. Someone DM me this. and like I said, my followers have such good points. They were like, yeah, and then we found out that Katie's like really messed up too. Like she did after the show. And I mean, she looked like this really good girl. Yeah, no, I was reading past all of that. And I was like, I'm not buying into this Katie act.

Yeah. And I think that she's mad. I think I said something mean, which I'm kind of recalling now that I'm going to repeat, but I don't know how nice it comes across, but whatever. that I was like... She's not bachelor on material? No, no. Okay, I'll say it.

That Greg was like the cooler guy in high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That she wouldn't like her in high school, yeah. Wanted to like and that he wouldn't... You know what I mean? I forget exactly what I said,

but it was like kind of around that vibe. Yeah. And I think she like really like took it out on him. Yes. Yeah. Oh my God. Great points today. Yeah.

Thank you. You're welcome. So I think Victoria and Greg are jumping so headfirst into that I just like have to respect it. You know what I think though, which I'm going to be like the annoying people with conspiracy theories, how strong are two influencers together? I mean, I think they also know the power of a power influencer couple. Oh, 100%.

Like the, they know it. Like I know this is a little like dream crushing, but they fucking know it. It's money. It's people care about you more. Like, what was he doing before hanging out with Andrew? Yeah, it's true. Now he is. I mean, they were so cute, though.

They were so cute. Yeah, I did love them as fine. I wanted them to be dual bachelors. Like they did with Gail. Oh. They, um. Wait, was Andrew on Paradise? Yeah.

Yeah. But no, no love. Kind of like they didn't even talk to him after. I would support Andrew and Rodney being joint bachelors. Oh, yeah. Rodney was so cute. Rodney's so cute. I love him.

But no, they, it's, it's taken a funny turn for them. But it is what it is. Listen, they're hot. And that's all that matters. They're young and hot. I'm just like, never forget. She dated.

crystals. And anybody else? Chase Rice Rice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. But yeah, no, it will be interesting to see where that pans out. I know you said that you weren't really interested in the Royals, but this Harry and Megan documentary is coming out on Netflix and I care. No, oh my God. I care so much. I'm so going to watch it. I am so excited for this because I just love that as much as these two say like, we left to protect our family and we're like, don't want to be like it was too much doing all that stuff.

It's like, okay, here's a whole fucking documentary. I know. Like a docu series. Do you think they needed the money? They got cut off so maybe. Maybe. Maybe it's the money. Did they really like money cut off everything?

I think you lose out on like the royal funds. Yeah, but I don't think they're like starving. No, no. I mean, they're in the fucking Montecito McMansion that they live in. Like it's insane. I just, Megan, there's moments where I love Megan and moments where I'm like, she, she loves the spotlight. She has, she always has.

And it's fine. But maybe say that then. I know. You know, I think that's the issue. It's like with anything. Like she wants you back on Instagram. She definitely wants to be doing like brand clabs. Yeah.

Like she wants that life. And the thing that's hard for people, I think, is accepting the like her saying one thing with doing another. Yeah. And not and not all the other. Right. Like, I believe what she was saying about. like how they were treating her and the royals and like the ins and outs of the the firm and like everything. I'm totally in on that.

But I also think like the acknowledgement of like, well, I still want people talking about me. And now people care more. I mean, before she was getting like she did suits and whatever. But this is a whole different level of fame. I'm worried for her though. Like what if this nothing has really brought her the people's love yet? No, because she's still like... Premeditated.

One thing about so many celebrities and especially I feel like people on Instagram is you have a relatability. People can be like, oh, I see myself and her sometimes and I think like she's lost that completely. Yeah. There's not... She tried. She tried.

There was like an interview where she was like talking about... She's so out of touch sometimes. What was she talking about? Yeah, yeah. She was like, and then... The New York Times like magazine, I think, right? Maybe there was something. Oh, oh, oh.

Was she talking about a TV show? Yes. And they were like, what? And then we sing it. Yeah. Yeah. She was like, you know, we're like every couple where we like scroll and Netflix and we like can't decide what to pick. And then we land on.

I forgot what show she said. Yeah. I don't know. I have to look at up there. Sometimes it's just all like it just feels very curated. Yeah. People feel. What's the real?

Like what's your real? How are you like in real life? Is how you are in real life? If so. But I don't care about like she took Harry away. I'm like, I get that. People really glamorize things and think, but that life is hard. And I get that for a semi-normy, you would be like, wait, this isn't fun.

It does make me sad that Harry and watches the real housewives. Oh, she doesn't. She's not watching the real-house vines. That's probably a lie. She told Andrews telling that. Oh, you really don't like her. No, I know. I really don't follow the royals at all, so I don't have like a.

An opinion. Yeah, I'm telling you, feelings of people have really strong feelings. Yeah, yeah. way. It does make me sad that Harry and Will like don't really have a relationship anymore. I mean, it's a lot of the times the women, right? Maybe they don't get along. Well, there was, I saw, like, and I always, the Daily Mail always is like so petty with

the royal family. It's just so shady all the time. And I guess like the trailer dropped this morning, but minutes before the trailer dropped Kate and Will put out like this little video like of them on their trip to the to the States. They went to like a basketball game. It was like this video of them

like together in the States. Oh my God. And it like came out like they were like minutes before documentary trailers released. I'm like that's that's where the firm is. Yeah it gets a little a lot of people really don't like her. Like I remember when she

said why they're doing the Netflix thing and she was like, we want to to tell our love story. Yeah, yeah. And it was just like a little, yeah. How much are you trying to prove that you guys are in love? Right. You guys are married and have kids. Yeah. I don't believe that you guys are not in love. Yeah. I'm not questioning that at all. For me, it's like, that stuff is hard for me. But I also like, when they did the Oprah interview, I was just like, I really feel so bad for her. Because I do think that they crushed her. Yeah. Of course, feel bad for her. Like, no one deserves. Yeah.

No one deserves that. Yeah. It's just like what's all happening next time. It's just, right. I got raised. Like he doesn't want to, you know, just chill. Like she wants to be like, you don't like me while I'm here and I'm going to do a podcast and I'm going to do a Netflix thing. Wow, I can't wait.

I hope it's not like January 2024. Yeah. No, I think it's definitely next year. Like 20. Like 20. Yeah. Well, next year is like a day. Do they put out a date for it?

No. No. Coming soon. So hopefully maybe like first quarter of 2020 I hope so would be very nice. There's a big scandal with Good Morning America co-anchors that people I think are learning who these people are for the first time. What's their names?

Quick, what's your name? I saw this on Twitter on Pop Crave and it was like 50,000 retweets, whatever. And I was like, people really care about these people. I have never heard about them in my life. I watched Good Morning America sometimes. How have I know? What days are they on?

think they do GMA 3, which is like the day time portion. Oh, like not in the morning? Yeah. Like it's like if it's like if they were, um, I don't know, Mario Lopez like kind of vibe. Okay. I would love to know how many people are watching daytime TV and this. I think like a hundred thousand. A lot of people guys. No. No, not that many people. That's a lot. That is not a lot. I feel like at night. Wait, $100,000, I feel like, is nothing. For TV? For TV? People think TV is like, for TV? I made up that number.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm taking that to heart. Guys, I think I'm about like all of our grandparents and aunts and everybody that like doesn't miss like, I'm an aunt who watch like every episode of the Kelly Clarkson show. Like people, you know. Wait, so what's the drums? They. So they are both married. Now we don't know like the full relationship status of their marriages.

We're assuming that they were like, you know, still married that I don't know. but they have clearly been having an affair of sorts. All these pictures came out like 65 photos. Like all like from different places here. They are at a bar here. They are on a trip. I think how do they come out now? I think somebody, I think one of their

town or spouses had to have hired a PI. Because nobody is following these people. Right. They're not like celebrities. Nobody is like, oh my God. Who's going inside a bar in New York City? They're sitting at a bar top. They're drinking stella's.

They're laughing together. They're like grocery shopping. Was there like a kid? Yeah. There's like photo racks. Like grabbing her butt putting groceries into the back foot car. Isn't that so crazy? To be like walking like you're married and like you are on TV.

You have to think a little bit like. Well maybe they're like we're daytime. No one watches. For like an like an ass grab like in the broad daylight is crazy. And it's like a zoomed in. And now I want to watch the show. Like you want to see if the camera. I was reading.

I was reading tweets that were like, oh my God, I was watching her give him shit for never seeing love actually yesterday and thought, wow, they have really great banter. And I guess they keep posting... Both of their Instagrams have been like turned off. Oh, yeah.

Like the question is now... Can they be fired for something like this? I'm sure they can be, but will they be? I think they can. Like when... They can't keep going. Together. Like, imagine they go and they're like...

Unless... Good morning, America. Unless they... Unless they... Unless they show up as a united front And they're like, we're in love. And we're leaving our spouses. Yes.

We're leaving our spouses, which you've never watched, by the way, which you still have to watch. What? I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know.

You always tell her to watch. Yeah. Yeah. These bats are people don't have time. No, no. They have three hours a week. Yeah. Twice a week.

It's fucking four hours a week. Yeah. It's crazy. So, by the way, their name is your Amy Robach in DJ Holmes. We haven't said their name one. Like, I'm not like, Did you watch Melrose Place? Yeah.

Okay, so. Oh my God, was so upset to like the Amanda. Amy is married to Andrew Shoe, who is, I don't know what his character. His character was Billy Campbell on Melrose Place.

Oh my God. Wait, that sounds familiar. Yeah, yeah. I need to look up a picture of him. This guy. Of course I know who he is. So Amy Roeback is they're married. She's eating on me.

So my takeaway of this is like because I know nothing about them whatsoever and this is the first time I'm hearing their names, I think more like, wow, like this is happening rather than like how disgusting of you. No, I know, same. I'm like, that's kind of hot. Well, Good Morning America is really trending on Twitter and I read this tweet before DeRio's cracked me up at Jason by Jason tweeted

the Good Morning America cheating scandal is giving what a scandal needs to. High stakes. They're co-anchors on the most watched American newscast. Audacity, 65 photos of broad daylight. cheating and evidence hiding in plain sight the guy's anniversary post. I guess he posted an anniversary Instagram for his wife and joked about like her leaving him or something. Oh my God.

And he's like, yeah, Amy. Full ass crab and broad daylight. Oh my God, I need to. Wait, so here's some pictures of them. They were like, who cut like not caught in 4K? Like somebody, these are like very. By the way. Got to throw this in there.

If they do have like, grab and here they are like sneaky holding hands in the back of a car. Like somebody, this is a private investigator. Or, that is a PIs. Or. Or. Or, they hired.

Because they went out of their marriages. And they're stuck. And they're like, this is the only way out. And they're like, you know what? We don't fucking care. Like, call us cheaters. We just want to. This has just become like, watch me like deep dive later.

Yeah. We're loving this. Like each picture. No, because I'll tell you what I love. I love your idea of the United Front. Yeah. Because I feel like I can picture the more. show situation where they meet and they're like this is what you have to do like Billy Kudra's character

telling them like the only way is if you like get divorced and you come there's no other way look at these videos they're in the fucking woods they like must have gone on some trip like who's filming that that has to be I'm telling that's right everyone's like this has somebody had to have somebody was following them this looks like a movie shot that is a movie that's a undercover camera That is crazy. That's like at like an Airbnb like in the forest and like they somebody. It's sudden madden. I will say though if they have families and kids, I do feel bad for that.

I want like I do feel bad for that. Like you don't want to see. Better that the spouses know. Yeah. You know? It seems like they both have had multiple. Affairs. What sound is playing off my computer right now?

Oh, Twitter. They had definitely had multiple. So she's married to Andrew Shoe. they've been married since 2010. She is also the mom of two daughters from a previous marriage, and he has three sons. She's stepmom to his three sons, who he shares with his ex-wife.

And then T.J. Holmes has been in an 11-year marriage with an attorney, and they have a nine-year-old daughter. And he's also the dad to two older children, so I'm guessing that's from a different woman. So I feel bad for the nine-year-old daughter. Yeah, people at school, seeing all those pictures. like that hurts my heart. Like that is really sad.

Yeah. But when you take that out of it and you see like all the, you're like, whoa. Yeah. It's very scandalous. So they were that, those videos were from a getaway in upstate New York. Like they definitely thought they were being private investigator. Yeah. For sure.

Paparazzi. No, no, no. They're not getting paparazzi. Somebody, one of their spouses were like, you're caught with her. I feel like the attorney. The attorney. Oh, true. Yeah.

I mean, this is like her job. Yeah. The attorney, maybe they even joined forces. Yeah. Yeah, like she. I'm getting like, I hate conspiracies. Let's team fire. She was like, listen, I know something's going on between let's team up.

We won't say anything. Why is the, but how like vindictive is it to take it public rather than go to your spouse with it? Yeah. Right. So if that's true, then they're kind of doing this to their family. Yeah. That is another great point. Yeah.

So many liars. The Good Morning America or GMA through whatever hour they are on, the rating is going to be high. I need to check on my grandpa. Wait, is it going to be on though? Like, what's going to happen? Like, are they going to talk about the story? Were they on today? I don't know.

I have no idea. Oh, my God. Whoever is like their understudies are probably hyped right now. They're like, this is our time. We're going to get on. We've been waiting. We've been waiting. We're on a midday spinoff, GMAA 3.

The GMA 3, what you need to know. anchors. So I don't know where it's it's it's we're still an a.m. on Thursday. So maybe it hasn't maybe wait this happened. This broke today. Um, yes. Like earlier this week I want to say, I want to say yesterday. Oh yesterday. Oh yesterday? Yeah. Oh. On November 30th, um, they took down their Instagram. I think that's one. Okay. Pictures. Taking down their Instagram. I guess you want to do that. I'm like, so you don't get like, flooding comments. Okay. Guys, JMA three is on ABC at 1 p.m. I'm Eastern.

Everyone. Be our man on the field. You can tune in and see where they are if it happens. I'm going to live stream on my phone. I know. I need to know now. I'm so into it.

Very into it. But those are big three things that are happening right now. We wanted to talk to you about. And now we've held you here for way longer. Oh my God. I don't live here. I don't know.

I'm like, the room has gotten bigger. You don't want to live in this space. Look, there have been. We have done topics and have other, I guess, like, entertainment reporters and whatnot who have been on our show. The quotes. No, no, no. Entertainment.

I don't know. I'm saying. No, that wasn't to her. It was more like the other people. We were like they're entertainment reporters. Yeah, well, I would call us entertainment reporters. I would even ever call myself a reporter ever. You don't like the word reporter.

I don't like reporter. I am none of those. I don't know those things. I like to comment coffee. I like to be artainer. We are none of those. We are none of those things. That's why I put it in air quotes.

We're entertainers. Yes. podcast or no. Yes. Yes. But you're a phenomenal third chair is what I was trying to. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And they were like, you know, I love that. Stopping hot people on the street. Ask them what they do for a living. Do you still? Oh, the TikToks? Yeah. What would you? Do that on the TikTok? What would you say? I have an Instagram with, like, a follower. That's what I say. You said I'm a woman with a small following. I know. That's been fucking amazing. But I really do. I need help with that. I think I would say, I have a podcast. I have a podcast. I have a podcast is good. But that sounds like

I struggle with that every So does everybody I struggle with that every time. My dentist has a podcast like I struggle with that every time I like I'm filling out of form and it's like write my occupation. Self-employed I say.

I'm like I write media. Sometimes I'm like media is good. Because this is a media company. It is and I feel like when you say like I have a podcast people don't, people are like cool, what's your podcast? Yeah.

And I'm like well we could say we all have a People's Choice Award nominated. Are you gone? We're not nominated this year. Are you going to go? I'm going to go. All right.

I've thought about it. I don't. You should go. Don't tell me not to now because the. No, no, no. You absolutely should go. Everything. So,

cool. Yeah. So I thought about it. And then I was like, listen, I wouldn't, I'm not an event, gal, but like I'm nominated. So I want to be there and you never know if it's going to happen again.

We're the same way. We don't do events or anything like that. But walking the red carpet, you feel so fucking cool. And all the pictures. Oh really? Like I'm telling you you'll love it. Really awesome. That is cool. It is. Even though Getty is awkward because they're like, what's your name?

No, no. They'll help. So the first time we did it, it was like a what's your name? And I was like, Maria Chiffo, you don't be able to spell that. The second time, somebody told them. Told them and they knew and all of our pictures were up instantly. Yeah, I'm assuming because it's very organized. Kelty Night gave us hilarious advice too because she has done it so many times where she's like, no, no, no, you show up, bring a piece of paper. paper, like have the person you're with, like, write your name, hold the piece of paper,

like off. Yeah. Like have somebody hold it. But now. But they can see your name. And they have somebody. Yeah, yeah. It's organized.

But I think I'm like, for me, my friend yesterday was like. Is it the same place at the Malibu, like the hangar? Like, yeah. Okay. My friend. My friend. Yeah. It was a weird.

The first setup was fucking awesome. We were in like folding chairs. Oh, really? First setup was, and we were sitting like, first year was phenomenal. You were nominated a row. No, no. years in between. Yeah. We were nominated in 2018 and then we were nominated again last year. First year was really awesome set up like tables. Like you really feel like you're part of a war

show. It was so fun. It was us lady gang and scrubbing in and we were on a table. It was so fun. I wish you were there this year. Sorry you're not nominated. And then last year we were in folding chairs. Wait, am I going to be three times? We were behind Charlie DeMilio. So like, wait, was I, am I going to be in the folding chairs? If I have to guess, I'm hoping. that maybe, like, that was still very, like, it was, I think, very COVID, scared that they weren't, like, the downstairs area. They don't, they don't announce this one on stage, right?

No. No. You won't find out until you refresh on your, like, when it's over. You'll be refreshing, like, eOnline to see when they, like, post the full list of winners. Or you'll guess, or if you would, I've been like, okay, but also if you win, if you win, somebody would know before.

100% they know before. Someone is told before. Yeah. We had this, we had this the first series. we went because everyone at the everyone would know like that day. Oh my god. Everyone at the table. Everyone at the table was like who's like we're all looking at each other like

didn't you want you guys win? And they do. And scrubbing in one but they didn't know because they didn't tell Becca and Tanya but their people knew. Yeah. They're people knew and so like when the show ended which we were because we went the first you were like they didn't announce our category like the whole thing and she was like no I you guys won.

Yeah, like she like, she was like, she was like, we know you want. First of all, announce the category. Podcasts are now, you know, we're not fucking like sound men, okay?

But it was very funny. The folding chairs was hilarious because it was like us and then like the whole selling sunset cast, Real Housewives cast. No, definitely is cool. That's why I was like, I'm going to go.

At the Outer Banks cast, we're all in these folding chairs were like, what the fuck? See, it's not as glamorous. But my friend yesterday was like, why aren't you excited? And I was like, my excitement was like getting nominated.

Yeah. You know, like, that was my exciting thing. Like, going to the red carpet, for me, it could go either way. It could be like, I'm not, I go in with low expectations, by the way, life tip everybody. Low expectations for everything. If you go in, you're like, I'm going to red car. It's going to be amazing. No, I'm going in, like, the Getty people won't know my name.

You know, my dress is going to rip. Like, my skims are going to show, like, all the bad things. And then what happens, you guys, is like, I have one sip of wine. And I'm like, this is the best thing ever. My therapist wants to work on it. and I'm like, no, I really love this about me. Low expectations, it work every time. So I'm excited.

But, yeah, the nomination was the exciting part. It's also fun to just like look at everyone. Yeah. It's like, all these beautiful people in a room. Yeah. Like, do I act cool? I can't wait to see your stories on that day. There's going to be this just going to be a lot of dots.

A lot of dots. Get ready. I'm excited. And hopefully I think, hopefully they like put everyone back at tables again because that was just such a better setup for the show. I think they will. And we had alcohol the first year and not the second year. They will.

I'm just letting you know. there was yeah but that was like also a COVID thing like that was also like no bar drink before I don't yeah yeah so okay if I had to guess they would go back to the way they did it before because it was just like a better show yeah even just watching it like it was a better show no because you didn't want to yeah yeah we did something yeah we um you know Joe and Serena from the bachelor yeah oh you did their show no no we just like went to dinner with that math oh yeah we're like we all want to get out of here let's just go to dinner yeah let's just go to dinner Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like, and it's, it's just like a long day. Like, you say you probably won't go. You're going to go. The hair, the after show, am I, you know, I like, be like, we're going? Yeah.

No, I probably won't. The hair, the makeup, the dress, the getting there, the carpet, the show. Like, by the time it ends, you're like, God, I'm starving. I know, it's a whole day. And we have to record a podcast after. Oh, my God, you did? Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God.

Okay. First time we got, we just got, like, in and out. Yeah, that was fun, though. Yeah. You're so hungry after. I know. Oh my god, I'm hungry now. There's like, there's better food.

Right. Yeah. It'll be fun though. No, no. You'll have a lot of fun. And congratulations. Thank you. Thank you so much.

It's very cool. And it's always you get so vote, right? No. No. No. No. It's such a funny category because it's like you're. And Conan O'Brien.

Yeah. It's like so many people that you're like, they don't need their podcast to be nominated. Yeah. I wonder though if they were ever nominated. If they ever won like Conan O'Brien. You know what I mean? I feel like it's more like the girls. They don't ever give it to them.

It's Emma Chamberlain. I can tell you, I'm scrubbing in one twice and Ember Chamberlain. Oh, that's the years that it happened. Oh, my God. Okay. Well, I really don't think I'm going to win. I just am happy to be nominated. You never know.

I know. I'm also doing the thing where you're like, I'm killing the test. Yeah. I'm failing the test. Low, baby, love. Yeah, well, it's going to be a ton of fun. Thank you so much for joining us. We had so much fun.

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How did you feel about that? That was good. Yeah, that felt good. Yeah, that was very professional. That was very professional. Yeah, I got to give you that. Tyler, you have been extremely requested to come on the show. The season ended the reunion, all the drama.

People were like, we need to hear more from Tyler. Like we were getting tons of DMs to people, be like, you've got to have Tyler on the podcast. We need more, more, more. So that's what we're here to do. As you guys saw, I tried to get a chance to talk and I got shut down real quickly during the reunion. Yeah.

So yeah, it's good to do you. So if you want to say whatever you were going to say on the reunion here, go go right ahead see that was the thing like on the reunion because I had so many people reach out to me and say all right what's the T right you know what did you want to say like I hear the rumors everybody else heard this and that um just the biggest thing for me why I like jumped in and it was only like one point I just turned I was just like Victoria just because like we're all one big family no matter what at the end of the day you leave in a relationship if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out but we're on a national television show all right going on there and attacking somebody's character

like she did with Johnny and like knowing the truth I know that Johnny didn't say those things you know going through my relationship and him going through his we would like check in with each other all the time and I was just so upset because I never had a problem with Victoria whatsoever yeah like at the end of the day even like still now all I did was lose respect because of what she did you know just coming at him saying you called me this you said this and I'm sitting there I'm like

that's not true and also like we're on a television like we're on a show where predominantly it's women watching the show the things that you are saying you better have like backed up like facts but do you feel like there's maybe a chance that you may not know if he actually said those things or not because because I feel this way for both of them like I think that devil's advocate I think that Johnny was wrong I think Victoria was wrong in different aspects of their relationship I think that they both could have done differently, but do you feel like maybe your friend isn't going to be straight up and be like, yeah, bro, I called her this.

You know, like, he could be telling you, no, I didn't say that, but like, he did. You know, I feel like you don't know for sure. And I think that's maybe where the frustration came from. But I also understand the point of wanting to defend your friend. So I kind of see like both sides of that. Exactly. I mean, all of it, in any relationship, when it ends,

there's going to be two sides every story. Yeah, yeah. And everyone's going to say, I said this or you said that, and it's just going to go back and forth. the nobody's going to really know unless obviously you have receipts or something like that. But I just knew, like, I know who Johnny is. Like I got to know him like very well, even like post show, like getting to know him. And yeah, I just thought to myself, even like going in there, like I thought I was just like,

all right, if Victoria comes out here because there's everything going on around her and Greg. And honestly, like you're with Greg. You're done. You're not in relationship with Johnny. Just be happy. That's perfectly fine. but coming on I was hoping that she would come on and just be like it didn't work out like I'm with Greg now like leave it like that right I'm sorry it didn't work out I'm happy now

just like not to air out the dirty laundry exactly don't do that especially on a television show because Johnny didn't do that there's lots of conversations that I know that he had with her and you know there's lots of things said from her side too but he made sure to stay respectful the entire time. And he had talked to her prior and said, I'm not going to do this. I'm not going to air out. I'm not going to air out personal stuff between us because that wouldn't be right to you. But she did. You know what I mean? And it's just like, and attacked him. And that was the part that I was just so disappointed and upset about. Yeah. And it's hard too because I think like there's some things that you should keep private. I feel like even when, I don't know,

I think she has maybe feels a responsibility to explain to people like why she's with Greg and therefore like airing out the dirty laundry so that it backs up like well I made the right decision and now it's better with Greg. But like I know when they went on Nick's podcast and I know she was talking about like things their therapist had said to them. And I was like that's that's where it kind of crosses a line for me. I'm like I don't think you need to be like sharing your. therapy sessions with the world. But I do understand why she was trying to, I guess. Like she's in like defense mode where it could have, it could because I think everyone can agree on if she's happy with Greg.

Be happy. Yeah, be happy with Greg. Like that's fine. I guess it was the cheating thing. It's more just like she was being called out and the cheating. The big thing with that is like when she literally said to everybody, she said, I don't care whether you like us or not. Okay. I really don't give a shit is what she said. Obviously she cares. Right. Right. Right. I mean. People are coming out. And that's the way Bachelor Nation is. It's

terrible. People say the worst thing's possible. I mean, I've gotten stuff. Yeah. And I'm just like, wow, this is pretty, this is pretty tough. Anybody going through this. But if you're going to sit there and say, you know what, I really don't give a shit what anybody says at the end of the day, then own up to that. Right. Be like that. Right. And I just feel like, like you said, she's doing everything she can to defend herself at the end of the day. But if she had gone to, you know, that reunion and just said, listen, things weren't working out. We were toxic. Relationship just wasn't there. I'm with Greg now and I'm happy. Leave it like that. You know what I mean? You look at the realistic spin on it. He did things wrong. We filmed for three weeks. But I also did things wrong.

Like we didn't, I think we all found out too many details. Way too much. I think I think that's where. Because once you find out, once the can of worms is opened, then you invite everybody in. Well, if you kind of keep it closed, no details, just didn't work out. People can speculate all they want. Just let them speculate and just move on with your life because people are going to do that about literally anybody in the spotlight. They'll speculate and that's really it. But how are you doing? What's going on in your life?

Your relationship status. I think that everybody's wondering what's going on there. Right. I think people wanted to see more of a conversation perhaps too. I know like you filmed so long at the reunion and so much of it gets cut and there are so many things that people thought, oh God, I really wish, like, we saw more of that. I think one of those things was more of what happened with you and Britt. Oh, yeah, of course.

So how did that kind of come to an end, I guess? So what had happened was, and, you know, we talked about it at the reunion, like, everything. Yeah. And so basically we left the show together. Super happy. I got back to Jersey. She got back to Chicago. And she reached out to me about Fourth of July, what I was doing for Fourth of July.

And I told her, well, I'm going to be in Jersey. And she said she was thinking about going to New York. And I said, well, why don't you come to Jersey, like spend it with me? And this is like a day, two days prior. Is that something you're allowed to do? Allowed to do? Yeah. Well, you really can't be seen out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like a private backyard situation. Something like that. We're perfectly fine. And I'm from a small town. Like, nobody really cares that much. Yeah. So she ended up booking a flight, came to Jersey, met my family.

We had the most amazing time. Yeah. everything was awesome went to the fireworks she got along with everybody at the jersey shore at the jersey shore exactly at the jersey shore but uh but yeah everything was amazing um she kept telling my family the entire time how much she loved me how she fell in love with me stuff like this and i'm sitting there and i'm like okay this is like obviously he's moving quick you know it's call it like uh beach fever i guess what you can call it where you really fall for somebody just because you're in this little bubble and then after that i told her i was just like i'll come to chicago so as soon as you're

She left. A week went by. I went to Chicago. Met her family. Got to hang out with her. We actually went to a Chicago Cubs game. Just stayed low key. But my show wasn't even on yet. So nobody knew who I was, you know. So got a chance to, like, hang out in Chicago. That's crazy to think about. It was nuts. That is also what is also so hard for me to, like, wrap my mind around with Victoria and Johnny, too. Because I was like, she didn't see that the show was airing. Like your season of The Bachelorette was airing as you guys were all like in these couples already, which is crazy.

Like thinking about watching the guy you just got engaged to on TV being like, I don't really think I'm ready to get engaged. Yeah. I mean, I had to film the men's tell all while I'm literally in a relationship with Brittany. Yeah. So. Yeah, that is crazy. That is crazy. For sure.

Because you had to put your head in the right. Like a different. Yeah. Like take yourself back to that. So you're in July this season. hasn't even, you're in Chicago, but nobody even knows, nobody knows who you are. Nobody knows who I am. I remember it's funny.

Johnny was telling me one time, too, he went out in Nashville and he was with Victoria and people thought he was just her bodyguard or something like that. Yeah, so I'm just like, yeah, pretty much. But yeah, went to Chicago, everything was awesome, met her family. Family really liked me. I mean, her one nephew

was calling me Uncle Tyler, like afterwards. And, like, I met her dad and everything. And, yeah. I'm sorry. No, no, it's fine. I'm sad. He lost Uncle Tyler. But met all her friends and everything.

And she kept telling everybody every single person that we met, he's going to be around for a while. So obviously I'm feeling great. You know what I mean? I'm going to match your energy. You're giving me everything. I'm going to give that bad to you. As soon as I had left, I got back home. As soon as I flew in that day, she said, hey, I need some space.

And I was just like, what do you mean you need some space? And she wasn't like answering my phone call or my text. Right. So I was just like, I'm super confused right now. because I was just with everybody. We had an amazing time. I was just like, you're switching a flip on me, you know? And she said she felt like you weren't, like, respecting her space.

And it was more just me being confused at the time because I was just like, what's going on? And, like, my biggest thing with her, I remember when we had left together in a relationship and we were in the hotel room together, I asked her. I was just like, what's something you're scared of like in a relationship? You're scared up with me. And her biggest thing was, she's like, my last relationship, I got cheated on and he treated me terribly. I was like, well, that's completely out of my character. You don't have to worry about that. I said, you're the only girl for me.

I said, as long as you're with me, I'm with you, that's it. And then she asked me what I'm scared of. And like from the Bachelorette, like I told us about my past relationship where I had a girl that, you know, wanted to get engaged to me, wanted to move in with me, this and that telling me all these things. And obviously I was just like, I'd never experienced that before. I've never had somebody that wanted that. So I was 100% in, 100% in.

And then one day, things got to her, I guess, mentally. and just like a lot going on that she just ended the relationship. So I told Brittany, I was just like, I can't have somebody telling me everything I want to hear and then just ending it out of nowhere. I was like, that's the biggest thing. She's like, I would never do that to you. Yeah.

Well, low and behold. She said she needed some space. So like a couple days went by, didn't talk to her. After she had told me, you know, she needed some space. And then she had said to me, she was like, I'm thinking about, you know, I always wanted to move the London. and I'm just like, I came out of nowhere. And I was just like, well, when do you plan on moving to London?

She's like, as soon as my lease is up, like seven to eight months. She saw all the Instagram stories of everybody traveling Europe. I guess so, I guess so. But after that, like a couple weeks had gone by, I had the men's tell all to do. So I'm out in California. And I told her, I said, hey, I'm going to be in California for like two, three weeks. Would you come out here and, like, want to hang out? And she had said to me originally, she's like, well, right now,

like it's a little tough. I don't think I get a Ford flight there right now because I've got other things like going on. And I was just like, hey, like if you want me to, I will buy you a flight out here. Like it's no problem. And she's like, you would do that for me. I was like, of course. And then she said, don't worry, I'll take care of it. I'll see you in L.A.

because they were taking my phone away from me. So they took my phone as soon as I get it back, she calls me up and she says, hey, I can't make it to L.A. I'm actually at my mom's birthday party that was supposed to be the next week after, got pushed up. And I was just like, okay, completely understand that. She's like, but she's like, I just booked a flight to London in a week and a half, like right after my mom's party. And I'm like, you're going to London? And she was like, yeah, I'm going to go to London.

And from there, going to go to Italy. And I'm like, okay. I'm like, I'm a little confused right now. I was like, I'm going to be here for two, like another two and a half week. So while you're in London, I'm literally going to be in L.A. And I was like, and you were supposed to come here. Like, I understand your mom's trip getting like her plan is getting moved up. I was like, but you still have time to come see me.

Yeah. And she was just like, and I was like, and also you told me that you couldn't afford a flight out here. She was like, well, I've got the points. I have points to like to go out to London. The points. And I'm like, I'm sitting there and I'm like, this girl is definitely not. Sounds like you weren't worth the points. Exactly.

I think the points can be spent in any place. In any place. Especially inside the U.S. I think the points are more outside of it. There's no doubt. There's no doubt in my mind. So I'm sitting there and I'm like, and I said to her, I was like, Brit. I was like, you got to see this from my side.

Yeah. So you keep telling me every single day that you're absolutely in love with me and you want to see me. We haven't seen each other in weeks. I'm going to be in L.A. No offense, but you should be coming to see me in L.A. It's almost like you're running away. And she was just like, and she like broke down to me. She's like, you're right.

Like I messed up. I'm so sorry, this and that. And I'm like, okay. I was just like, well, I'm definitely a little upset. So we're like talking here and there. It's nothing like, like I'm just kind of keep my distance a little bit because I kind of knew like what was happening. And then she ended up, we started talking again, everything was fine. She's going out to London, Italy.

And then she says to me, she's like, why don't you, why don't you come see me in Italy? And I'm just looking at flights. I'm like, it's $2,500 to come to Italy. And I'm like, and also. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. And I'm like, and I'm like thinking to myself now, thank God I didn't pay to go out there. Yeah, yeah.

Just because the biggest thing in me was like if you're not willing to put in the time towards me, like I'm not going to go pay $2,500 just see. somebody that doesn't even know if they really want me. Why should you go to Italy? Exactly. Why should I go to Italy? So she's in London and I talked to her two days prior. And two days prior, she said to me, she's like, listen, this is what I'm going to do because I haven't seen you. She's like, I'm going to come to Jersey as soon as I'm done here. I'll fly to Jersey and then you come to Chicago because obviously I want to see you. I was like, okay. Two days after, she goes, hey, can we FaceTime? Sure. No problem. FaceTiming her. Are you like a little excited to FaceTime?

You know, I hadn't really, more nervous. Because I hadn't really, the communication with Brittany was so tough just because I'm the type person where if I'm just driving somewhere, I'm going to give you a call. I'm going to call you up. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Like I like to talk. I like to converse with people.

And, you know, she was very hard to get a hold of like throughout the entire relationship. And like I get that. Like you're a busy person. Right. Some people are bad with their phones. Yeah. Some people are bad. And she explained that to me.

She's like, I'm not good at texting and that's that. I'm like long distance, probably should be good at that. But she's like, hey, can we FaceTime? I was like, yeah, sure. She gets on the phone. She goes, I keep going back and forward with this. She's like, I don't think we're in the right place. Like, we're two different people.

We do two different things, this, that. And I'm just like, all right. I was just like, well, I at least want to see this through past like the reunion because honestly, I was just like, we can't have a real relationship because we can't go out here, can't do this, can't do that. Let's see what real life is like. Let's see what real life is. because if we had such a special moment

and you said you're so in love with me and I'm so in love with you we should at least see this past for another month, month and a half and just figure out if this is really what we want. And she's just like, yeah, I'm just not feeling it. And then just, that was it. And that was, like I said, on the reunion,

that was the same day I get dumped by Rachel on national television. Double-lamming. Rough Monday for me. Yeah. And I was just, you know, I was upset. But, you know, when she said to me, like right then and there,

she was like, you're going to be all right? And I was just like, yeah, you know what? I was just like, I'll be fine. Like, everything's good. I'm not going to sit there and cry about it or anything like that. You know what I mean? So kind of just went along and it wasn't even a bad breakup. And from that time to the reunion, we didn't talk at all.

She never reached out to me. Nothing like, no text. So was the reunion the first time you had talked to her since the FaceTime? Really the first. So there was one time in between where her mom had DMed me on Instagram and it was just a promo of, of Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah. So I sent her message.

She hadn't message me at all. I sent her message. I was just like a screenshot of it. And I said, I guess you didn't tell your mom we broke up. Yeah. And she turned around. She's like, no, the funny thing is I did. And I was just like, I was just, I think her name was Gene.

I said, that's just Gene being Jean. Like joking around. And like that was pretty much it. And then through that message, she said, how are you doing? And like to me, I was just like, I said, started this conversation. You know, you never came out and, like, checked up on me. So I'm just like, I really don't feel like you care that much. And then from then on, there was one message that I got when I was on a date with Chenet. She said, damn, three times because I kissed Chenet, like, three

times. And that was it. There's nothing else. No checking up on me, no seeing, like, how I'm doing. And, like, my biggest thing was, if you're still in love with somebody and, like, you have a breakup, that's not even a bad breakup. Right. You're not going to check in on them. Like, you know what I mean? I was going to say like it sounds like she was saying. She was saying she was in love with you, but she wasn't actually in love with you. And I'm not meaning to come across harsh, but like you said, if somebody's actually in love with you, like they want to talk to you. They want to be with you. They want to be with you.

Like that's to me like you need to be with that person. Exactly. Do you think a lot of that is the effect of like the paradise effect? Like you said, like the summer fever, like where it's just you, I. I think so many couples work, work themselves up or, like, get in their mind of like, this is, yes, I'm totally in love because look at all these other people and love around me and we're going to make this work. And afterwards, it's like, wait a second. There's no doubt. Well, one thing I will tell you is this. So I 100% agree that is real. As real as can be. Just because there's so much going on. You're in this, like, little bubble. Nothing outside world. You have to worry about anything. It's just you and somebody you just met on vacation together. And when we had left the day that, you know, I told her that I loved her. My plan was I wasn't going to tell her that I loved her because I wanted to wait until afterwards to show that I'm not doing this for the screen.

Yeah. I'm not saying this because there's cameras. I want you to know that this is real. Yeah. So I went down there and we're sitting talking to each other. And originally I had said, I was like, I want to leave here with you. Yeah. I definitely see this past paradise.

I will come to Chicago right away, like meet your mom, meet your friend, this, that. And then right afterwards, she had stopped me. She goes, well, I was really hoping that you were going to say that you were in love with me because I'm so in love with you. Yeah. And I had those feelings. And then right after she said that and I saw how upset she was, I was just like, I just want to let you know. Like right here and there, this is when I fell in love with you. And she looked at me.

She's like, well, why couldn't you say that? And I literally, in front of the cameras, I pointed out all of them. And I said, because that's there, that's there. I said, I'm going to let you know this is real. This is like me being real and genuine. Like, I don't care about all this other shit going on. on, you know? Yeah.

And that's why we didn't get a lot of screen time either. It's just because I was just invested in her. Like I didn't care about anything else. And do you think that because, like you mentioned, she kept saying, I'm in love with you, but, like, you couldn't, she didn't come to L.A. and hard to get a hold of. Like, do you think that maybe she felt the pressure of having to stay together because wanting to be like a success story?

And so in her head, she kind of knew it was over. But, like, she was just telling you, like, I'm in love with you because she's trying to figure out, like, how do I? and this without people, because like you said, Bachelor Nation could be really tough and they sometimes can't understand when things just don't work out

between two people and instead they're like, why didn't it work out? We love him. And not to like really analyze it too much because, you know, we haven't spoken to Brittany, but to have your show

not air and to then kind of see how it ended with Rachel and people like people really loved you and Rachel and I think like people really loved you coming off the show too where I do think that once someone gets an idea of what the public thinks about somebody

that it's like... I think we saw that with Eliza a little bit with Rodney. Yeah, you think like, oh shit, did I, like, am I making a mistake? Are people going to hate me now because I... Am I going to be the girl that breaks his heart again? Exactly. No, there's no doubt. Yeah, yeah. Which I do think that like comes into play.

Yeah. And when we were leaving together, So we're both leaving and she goes, I ask you a question, so sorry, I don't want to cut you off. But when you leave together, you leave Paradise and you don't like get engaged, do they set you up with the same kind of like happy couple weekends and things like that? Pretty much. Yeah, they do. Yeah, so we had a gap in between where we both went to the hotel.

Like, we both had our own rooms. And then we could have the nights together if we wanted to sign off on a piece of paper, make sure that we were both okay to, like, save the night together. And ultimately that's what we did. But when we at first we were leaving together right after, where she was like happy that I said I love you we're leaving together we got separated in the two separate interviews and I'm so happy in mine here I didn't know that she was not happy in hers she comes back and like I'm looking at it I'm like it's almost like the situation where

Rachel dumped me on the boardwalk like I'm looking at you I know something's all I was gonna ask I want to know what's all so I'm looking at I'm like is everything okay she's like yeah I'll tell you about it a little bit I'm good I was like okay so we're walking out together go to get into the car she stops me from getting to the car and of course they didn't show this either. She stops me and she goes, I don't think you're ready. I was just like, what do you mean? You don't think I'm ready. I was just like, I just told you I'm in love with you. She's like, yeah, but I feel like I had to get that out of you. Like, I don't feel like you're really in love with me. And I turned around and I was just like, I was just like, Britt, I told you how I felt.

I was like, I'm not leaving here without you. So if you want to come with me, you can come with me. Yeah. So then she ended up getting to the car with me. And we're driving in the car. And, you know, I got my producer there with me too. Who knew my entire plan to tell her as soon as we got back. So she knew it was real. I'm sitting there in the car and I'm looking at her and she's just like, I feel like I should be happy right now, but I'm not. I'm like, what do you mean?

Maybe it was her like saying to you like you're not ready, but it was really her that's not ready. She's trying to get you to say it. 100%. She doesn't want to be the one. The bad guy. She's going to be the bad guy. 100%. And that's how I felt afterwards.

And like even then she turned around. she's like, well, she's just like, I've never told somebody I love them first. And I looked at her and I was just like, well, how'd that work out in your last relationships? And she's like, good point. Yeah. I was just like, I was feeling it. I was just because you said it, I was like, it doesn't matter if he says it further. It comes down to you if you actually feel that.

Yeah, right. So looking back on it now, I'm like, was that her way of like being like, you know what? Like, I'm not really feeling this. I got to get out of this. And that was kind of like a way for her to do that. I don't know. I don't know. How do you feel now?

Like, have you guys talked since the reunion? and I saw her put up a TikTok and I saw a bunch of the comments were like, we see that's Tyler filming and I'm like, I don't think it's Tyler filming. Definitely not me filming. Because all of the comments were like, come on, tell us, it's him. And I was like, I don't think so. Yeah. I had talked to her that night because, you know, I wanted to check up and make sure she was okay

because I saw the hate that she was getting. And like no matter what you do at the end of the day, like the hate that anybody gets from it, I know how disgusting you can get. Nobody deserves it. Exactly. Nobody deserves that. So I called her up and I just let her know. I was like, Brittany, I said, turn off your phone.

Don't listen to it. I said ultimately at the end of the day, the only people that truly know who you are are your family and your friends. That's it. All these other people saying stuff are either fans of mine or just people that don't know who you are. Yeah, absolutely. And I was just like, listen, I'm getting stuff too. You made me look like a stage five clinger with what you said.

I was just like, at the end of the day, I was just like, you just got to deal with it. It's going to be over in a few weeks. And I was just like, listen, I don't have an issue with you. I don't have a problem with you. You know, we had something special. But ultimately, you know, I told her, I was just like, the one thing that I told you, I was scared of in a relationship, you did to me.

So obviously, I'm going to be upset about that, and I can be upset. And after that, it was the TikTok came out. And then for Instagram, like, she had talked to me and she talked to me about doing a post, like, together, like a, yeah, a collab post. Basically. After the reunion? After reunion.

Yes, no, I was just like, I talked to friends about, it I was just like like that's a relationship thing that you do like ultimately I don't want her to look bad you know that's the last thing I want like the Clayton and Susie collab yeah yeah exactly and I was just like it's not it's not that deep I was just like but you got to understand like I'm genuinely like I'm a little hurt so like I just kind of want to do my own thing and then when the TikTok thing came out and I saw what she put up I'm just like all right this is too much like I get what you know you want to look good in front of the public like this and that I said, you don't deserve the hate because generally I think Britney's a good person.

I do. But like I said, like this blows over in a few weeks. Right. And like relationships end. Just because two people don't are not compatible anymore, like doesn't mean that that person deserves to be shit on. And that never dictates like if you break up with somebody that doesn't make you a bad person. No. But that person is always if like you were loved after the shows.

And so all of a sudden she's painted as a bad person because she broke up with you. but like at the end of the day if Brittany didn't want to be with you, she can't be with you because that's even worse to do to you to stay with somebody that you don't want to be with is even more hurtful, I think, than breaking up with somebody and just... Did you, did you hate that you,

the way you came onto the show, like Paradise, that you had to be a part of the... Would you have rather, like, come to the beach normally instead of the split week? I would be honest with you. Yeah. I mean, I got very lucky. Yeah.

came down there some guys that didn't get to engage with anybody. Right, right. They were just were... Was that an actor? I literally asked to leave. Yeah, basically. It was a depiction of like all the girls

being uninterested in the guys. Yeah. Yeah, because the way it was edited, it was like... The vibe was so low. They were, and we were talking about it. We were like, you know, you could not be interested in a romantic way, but just make friends while you're there. Like just have conversations, make friends.

Make the time go. by because you're really doing nothing the whole time. You might as well just talk to make some friendships or whatever it is. They don't have fun, but it doesn't need to be romantic. So I think as a viewer, we were getting frustrated. Like, these girls are really just going to sit around and whine all day. They can't even talk to the guys as friends. The first night was tough because when we first walked in, like, you could see, like,

you could already see who was in a relationship and who wasn't. And who was actually genuinely, like, interested in getting to know people. Cheney pulled me, like, first to have a conversation with her. Prior to her, I was talking with Serene. And, like, I had a really good conversation with her. Obviously, found out about Brandon. I was just like, even after I found out with Brandon, like, I'm like, all right, like, be friends. Like, I'm talking with her, like, her friend afterwards.

Yeah. And then I ended up talking with Brittany and then talked with Brittany for hours. But I saw, like, the first person I was just like, I'm definitely not going to talk to her was Victoria. Because Victoria was so, you could tell, like, she just didn't want to be there. And I'm just like, all right, I'm not even going to have a conversation. I'm kind of intimidated. What about Chenet now? Like, do you think Chenet is going to come around and say what's up?

Oh, what, Chenet with, with me? Yeah. I don't know. I think that she's got a thing with some guy is what I saw. I am not. I don't know. But I didn't see Sheenay like that. I'll be honest with you.

Like, I went on a date, had a great time and everything, but ultimately afterwards, I was just like, yeah. Do you think you're going to stay away from dating people in the bachelor world or whatever happens happens? Absolutely. Yeah. avoid like I mean I'm always I just want something that's real and like genuine you I mean if you're in a relationship with a motive like right now especially like let's be real like people date within industries because they know that it ultimately helps their brand for sure I don't want that I just want I could care less if you have 500 followers compared to whatever

else like I just want someone who's sweet genuine and right now I mean is it really hard to find Yeah, it's hard to find because you get these DMs and you're like, I have no idea. Like, who's in for what? Yeah. So my biggest thing is just like walking around, walking around New York, who knows after this? Yeah, maybe a friend introduces you to somebody. Exactly. You really never know.

You really never know. So. Yeah. I saw, you'd be like, I saw it like, I think it was Tyler. Cameron on it was on his radio show. He was told a story about like chasing a girl down the street in New York. Seems like very, very Tyler thing to do. Yeah, he did.

Like, he was, like, out to dinner and, like, saw a beautiful girl walk down the street and was like, I gotta, I gotta go meet her. And, like, follow. So, maybe that's something that you could. You never know. Did something follow up from that? I didn't, you know, I didn't hear the rest of the story. It was a good, like, tease of, hey, you got to listen to the full show.

It was a good tease, but you didn't go listen to the full show. No. Imagine being that girl having Tyler Cameron run you down. Right, exactly. That's what, that's what his, like, co-hosts were, like, Like, okay, I'm sure they're following her to, like, her apartment building. Like, but yes, no, I do think that makes the most sense. And Rachel, Rachel did say that her favorite hometown was your hometown.

Mine? Didn't she? Yeah, she did. Gabby and Rachel came on our show after the season. Yes, we did the whole interview. You can understand why I'm a little bit more. You can understand why I'm a little bit. Yeah.

After the interview was done, it was an off-camera conversation. where you said to me and Rachel, like, I feel like your guys' families would get along, whatever. And then she said something. And then we brought up Jersey. We joked about the hometown because we were like, you just couldn't deal with the Jersey Shore, huh? That was just like, not your speed.

Yeah, and she was like, no. She was like, that was my favorite one. She was like, I felt most comfortable. It's not where I'm from. It's me. No, but the thing is, because when we were watching, we were like, oh, she didn't like the boardwalk. She didn't like the friends.

And then when she said it was her favorite one, we were like, we're like, you're lying. Which is. That makes me feel even better. Did you feel that though during the date where you like, I'm getting a vibe that something's off or were you like, everything's great? I mean, everything was going great. And then right after our two interviews together before we had the conversation, like I saw her come out and I saw that she was like, almost like teary eye. Yeah, yeah. And I'm like, this isn't good.

I was just like, racial, is everything okay? Yeah. And she was just like, you know. I'm fine. I'm just super cold. So I, you know, I'm warming her up. I give her a hug. I'm warming up. And I'm thinking to myself,

come here. Come here. She's cold. Fine. So, uh, so yeah. He was about chocolate? Exactly. Have you spoken to Rachel post all of her relationship ending?

Um, the last conversation that I had with her had to be like a month and a half ago probably. Yeah. But, uh, but, uh, but yeah. I haven't, like, I talked to her and everything. Yeah. Yeah. Acquaintances. Yeah.

Yeah. Appointences. I'm really good friends with like, like, like, like, Jill. Like I talk to Jill like all the time and she's very close with Rachel. Okay. So, so yeah, I, yeah, I'm just friends with like my group. Genevieve too. I mean, I love Genevieve. So, yeah. Now, would you go back on the show or are you kind of like done for right now? Definitely done for right now. Yeah. Yeah. Reality TV dating. I don't know. It's just, it's tough. Yeah. Now what if another, like we were just talking about Love Island. Now what if Love Island US reaches out to you?

I'll be honest with you. I did. I had a casting producer reach out to me about it. As soon as I got back from the Bacorette. I had a DM and I was just like, listen, like, I can't do that. Yeah, yeah. I was just like, I'm in a contract and something like that. Right, right, right.

Don't think I would do reality TV dating. Now, if somebody asked me to do a show that was like, that wasn't dating-wise. Like the challenge? Yeah, and a heartbeat idea. That'd be so cool. That's fun. Like competition.

Yes. Yeah. I want to do competition. I don't want to put my heart in the line. Again and again. Yeah, exactly. There's only so much you can take, guys. Yes, less mental, more physical.

Yeah. So. So what is like, I feel like people saw the boardwalk, the background for you. Like, what is it that you now do, like post show? Yeah. So, I mean, I got very lucky. It's very silly question. So I feel like people are curious sometimes.

No, post shows like, it's very difficult for everybody because, you know, some people that were gone for so long might have lost their jobs. Yeah. Or are looking for something new. It's like weird this in-between time. thankfully I mean my business that I do with my brother is only during the summertime I miss out on an entire basically summer from my business but the house that I owned I'd sold the house and I made like a good amount of money off of it so financially like I'm in a spot now where I'm like all right I can go like anywhere like now's my time to if I want to go to California like I'm planning on moving to San Diego at the end of month I'm driving out there end of December he's making the San Diego mooch I'm making I know I know everybody's joining the basketball San Diego past. See, this is the big San Diego group chat.

You can't think you're going to date like a normal person if you're moving to San Diego. Yeah, you're going to San Diego where all the other bachelor people live. You're going to end up dating another girl from the bachelor. Yes. I put my money on it. You're going to bars. Everybody's coming up to you guys, the San Diego batch squads. Oh, yeah.

And then all of a sudden you start feeling it with your friend. I can't play because I spent like two days in San Diego. It was like this place is amazing. I would move here in a second. Love San Diego. But I wasn't on the bachelor. Have you met Dylan and Hannah? I haven't met that.

I feel like you and Dylan would get along. That's what I've been told by so many people that I forgot who it was. Somebody said you remind me of Dylan. Yeah, we're closed with Dylan and Hannah and you would definitely get along with Dylan, I think. And Hannah too. I mean, Hannah's so funny. If they want to hang out guys. I don't have like a person with me to go on double dates, but I'll just hang out with you guys in third week.

Maybe they have a friend. They have a beautiful house. We don't know. They do have a beautiful house. Try and get invited to that. I just want to hang out. How many people? People from your, the PCs in a paradise live in San Diego.

A lot. Well, Aaron. Love Aaron. Avens there. That's who I'm moving in with. Is it Aven? Yes. And then, I mean, Eric right now, he's in L.A., but he was, like, talking about, like, possibly moving in with us, too.

Love Eric. Oh, my gosh. And we're trying to get Johnny to move out there. But Johnny wants to go to Miami. But I'm like, dude, we all got tattoos together. Like, we got to live together. Yeah. Like, what's that about?

You guys all got matching tattoos. We got matching tattoos. Chow? It was, it was. It was no, not chow. Me, Eric and Johnny, when we were in L.A., we all got tattoos together. It's the three lucky number sevens. Nice.

Oh, my God. That's really cute. We have matching tattoos, so we're doing. Yeah, really nice and I have matching tattoos also. It was a junk decision that ended up turning out as like a nice little cute thing. That is cute. Now you guys have to live together. And your house number or apartment number has to have a seven in it.

Three sevens. That would be very ideal. Mm-hmm. So, okay. Yeah, there's a, I know, I've, I feel like Johnny does have that the surfer vibe. But he's a Florida guy already. He's a Florida guy.

It's very hard to try to get him to go to. I mean, San Diego would be awesome, but I don't know. He's so set on East Coast, which I don't blame. I love the East Coast. Yeah, yeah. That's how I am too. I don't know if I can do the West Coast. So where are you living right now?

Right now I'm back home. Home, yeah. Yeah, I've been back for like a couple weeks. And then, yeah, then I head out. And then you're headed to shipping out to San Diego. Shipping out to space. Bachelor crew will be ready there. Oh yeah.

Did they put you in the group chat yet? In the San Diego one? If there's one, guys add me as soon as possible. There has to be one. I'm telling you, they like have a name for themselves. Yeah, Aaron will put you in it. Probably. Once you get down there, you're not allowed to be in it until you're officially there.

That's just from our guests. But yeah, I mean, now like looking back, you look at the shows, you're you happy. You want, you did it? Like you're, oh my gosh. I mean, it was the best experience I've ever had. I mean, you got a magic tattoo with his. No, I know, he did fall in love with his buddies. I made so many friends on top of that.

I went so many places I never thought I would ever go to. I mean, it's definitely mentally, it affects you a little bit. Yeah. You know, it's like very hard to go from that to real life. But ultimately, it's definitely worth it. Like, there's no question about it. And like the thing for me, I was just like, look at all these other guys. And I'm just like, all these guys are six foot plus.

They're all very attractive guys. I'm like, what am I doing here? I'm like, I'm just going to go with the flow, act like one of them. But I was just like grateful for being there. So yeah. Yeah. So we're going to wrap up. Do you want to now tell us what you were going to say on the reunion?

I feel like you know it. Yes. Well, not really. Like what was? If she had let me talk. Yeah. If she let you talk, what were you going to say?

I would have been like Victoria, you literally just got engaged to this guy. You told this guy you were absolutely in love with him. And now on national television, you're going to attack his character. I'll just be like, this is somebody that you were just like literally with. Yeah.

I was just like, you don't give a shit about him. Like, that's what I would have said. There's no doubt. I feel it, but it's probably better for you not to get involved. Yeah, no, 100%. Like, better that she, almost better that she cut you off. Oh, 100%. I was just, I was so defensive, like, in that time being.

It's your guy. It's my guy. Yeah, even, like, the little scenes they showed of you guys talking outside. Yeah. And, yeah, I was so glad that I got to talk to him because he had no idea of Greg was there. Yeah. No clue. Even afterwards, like, not until that night when I saw.

all him afterwards. He goes. I heard Greg was there. I was like, yeah, dude, literally when I was outside with you, he was inside. And he was just like, dude, that's so disrespectful. You think we were playing bold at the same time? And we were like, well, this is diabolical. Yeah. Yeah. That is very sneaky. It's reality today. It's reality today for you. Very sneaky. Well, thank you so much for coming to talk to us. You were great. I feel like we got a lot of information. A lot of great. Go birds. Go birds. I like that you have hearing, you know, long-form conversation, the southern, the South Jersey accent really comes out. I picked up on it too. Yeah, 100%. But it made me feel at home. I know, you sound like my uncles.

If I can make you feel at home, that's all I try to do. Or like a little bit like Devin. Home. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone says Delco though, too sometimes. And I'm like Delco. No, I don't like. Devin always says family and he was doing that. I hear, I definitely hear more. It's South Jersey. Like it's, Delco's a little harsher, I think, sometimes. It's so harsh. Yeah. You can tell right away if somebody's Delco. Yeah, it's, there's only, you have certain words like the O's, the short O's.

The short O's. That's, oh. The short is. Water. There you go. All right. Thank you, Tyler so much. Thank you so much.

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