Chicks in the Office - Grande/Bieber vs 6ix9ine, LTYH w/ Trent + LadyGang Interview

Episode Date: May 21, 2020

CITO Merch > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Call Her Daddy drama (2:05-21:06). Billboard drama between Ariana Grande/Justin Bieber and 6ix9ine (27:59-37:05). Kristin Cavallari announces end of ‘Very Cavallari’ (37:46-43:43). Megan Fox stars in MGK's new music video (44:25-47:02). Our favorite feel good stories of the week (47:27-53:45). Listen to Your Heart finale recap with Luggage Guy Trent (56:10-1:16:59). Interview with LadyGang's Keltie Knight, Jac Vanek & Becca Tobin – talking their new book and everything pop culture (1:17:23-1:54:51). Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat & our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Thursday. As always, this podcast is brought to you by Macy's, our favorite place to shop right now. You guys know it. We've been talking about Macy's all along, and we're going to keep talking about Macy's because you guys need.

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I got, you know, now it's summer. It's obviously getting warmer. So summer clothes, bathing suits, beach stuff. On top of that, I got some new wine glasses. What also was great is Macy's has all of the cravings by Chrissy Teigen stuff, which, you know, support my girl. I love Chrissy. And they have all, like, her stuff is so cute. So I got a couple of cravings things.

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Just replenished my stock of cosmetic products. And they have a ton of great skin care stuff as well. and all of our favorites are on macy's.com slash chicks in the office. Go there now, go shop. Now it's time to get into some serious business guys. You know, we've had to address some things that people want us to address. And yes, the rumors are true. I fucking hate you, Fran.

I hate you. I hate your guts. I want nothing to do with you anymore. I couldn't even say that with a straight face. I couldn't even make it. I couldn't even. As soon as you said, I just started laughing.

Yeah, there was no way I could follow up there with that. I wanted to get all angry and serious, but I just couldn't allow myself. But, yeah, there's a lot of drama going on, a lot of entertainment going on with the Collar Daddy. The podcast world. The podcast world. We're very excited about it because we are part of the podcast world.

We love to see that this podcast is just taking over pop culture. Yeah. People keep jamming us. This podcast is literally the biggest, like, one of the biggest pop culture stories going on right now. I mean, an article was written in the New York Times about this. Like, it's, it's no joke at this point. Right. It's insane. But people want to know how we feel about the drama because we obviously work at Barstool. We've both been at Barstool for over three years now. So we kind of know the ins and outs. And people have asked us, like,

ever since Alex and Sophia have worked at Barstool, like, oh, why don't you guys interact with Caller Daddy? Like, what's going on there? And we have. nothing against Alex and Sophia. Yeah. It was just what everyone's been saying. They don't, they didn't really want to be involved in like the Barstle office, hanging out with people, like doing things with other shows. Like most people at Barstall do that, but they were just focused on Caller Daddy,

which I think, you know, is fine for them. Like, call her daddy's huge. So it made sense that they were like, this is so big. Why do we want to do anything else? But on standing on the other side of it, you're just like, oh man, like, we could be friends, but you guys don't want to hang out with us. And it's tough because, like you said, they grew something so huge and they created an empire. And it's like they, they, it's so even, it's hard to even describe what they created because it was so massive.

But like you said, we're like kind of on the other side of it because yes, we are a bar-suled podcast. but we feel like barso employees. We do other stuff. We interact with other people. We collaborate with other people. And we have that love for that, which is just not what they did, which is so fine.

Like they could do literally whatever they want. Like if you listen to Dave talk about this, he made it very clear like they were doing well enough that they basically made their own rules, which is so fair. And obviously it's anything, it's the only thing everyone can talk about right now. It's become that huge. The entertainment factor is high. Right. But that's,

that being said about like, you know, it's, it's completely fine because they were so big. I do think that they would have enjoyed it more than they, than I think they thought they would. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I don't think they fully understand what, like, working at Barstool was all about, because I think if they did actually hang out with everyone and they did participate more, they would have loved it because nobody who comes and works there is like, I hate this. Everyone ends up loving it. Nobody ever wants to leave. So I think that they just like got in their own heads about it. And even other shows have talked about this, even they would come in the office and they would like put their hoods up and run into the room. Meanwhile, nobody, nobody wanted them to do that.

Everyone always wanted them to interact. And like you said, Dave has talked about it. Like he only wants people to be doing more, doing whatever they want. So it was frustrating to like when they stop doing the shows and people would be like, do you guys know what's going on with Call or Daddy? And we'd get DMs and people would be like, can't believe Barstool is holding Call or Daddy back. When we know that that is never the case at Barstool because they only want you to work more and do whatever you want. They're like, you have an idea. Please put it out there. Do it. So yeah. It was kind of. crazy and also like comparing yourself to Kesha please don't do that because yeah not great not

great people really assume the worst and i think and i think that's um one of the biggest parts where they went wrong like it's not necessarily as much the the negotiations and whatnot it's just like in order to have a a successful podcast and create that love like that environment with your fans, you have to be transparent. You just have to. And I think that the daddy gang had that so much, but then when they realized that those last few episodes weren't really the case,

and for them to say, like, we can't talk about it, we can't talk about it, when they probably could have, at bare minimum, they could have said, you know, look, we're trying to secure the bag, and we have like we signed a long-term deal we're trying to secure the bag right now uh we're still on our contracts but like what's just the best and every single person who listens to that show would have been like hell yeah ladies get your money like that's you know what like i think if they no one would have said like oh yeah what like you're trying to get paid more like because everybody

understood when you see the breakdown they were making so much money and they deserve to be made like they deserved the money that they were making. Absolutely. And then things got, I just think things got complicated because when you, when their lawyers, I think initially highballed Dave and Erica, which is so fair,

like that's kind of what you do in a negotiation, in a negotiation you highball and then hope that they come down and you still get a majority of what you want. Like with that situation, and then Dave and Erica kind of being like absolutely not and then working its way down to this deal that Dave had offered them all makes sense for something to take like the 500K base six months off your contract

and you can walk away with the IP at the end of the time at the end of the year is an unbelievable deal you're not going to find a deal like that from any kind of media company ever. Right, Fran. And like you said, unbelievable deal. Anybody should have taken that because if you think about that in your head, it's a 500K base plus all the bonuses,

plus the bonuses on the merch, plus you're going to get the IP. They would have made millions at the end of the year. So it's really insane to think about how, you know, Sophia not taking the deal because of this man. who, in my opinion, if I would have to guess what's going on, is manipulating the situation. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. I think that Alex should come back.

I think she should do the podcast. And I think if Sophia was smart about the situation, her and Alex would somehow hash it out, and then they would get over it and they would realize, listen, see how big this podcast is? to drop the drama and get back together and do what we do best. We need to figure this out. There's too much fighting going on with the co-host more than anything else at this point. These two need to be locked in a room. Suitman needs to be kicked to the curb. I don't know if he, I don't know if he's still involved, still or not, or what that situation is. But they need to get together somehow, talk this out, work it out. Because, you know, you.

You know, even the video Sophia put out, which was bizarre and sad, like, all at the same time, because it just feels like there's a lot that she's not telling us. And I don't know if Alex is going to say something or not, but it's tough now. It's just, it's, I think that, I think they were both wrong. I think they both did things wrong. Number one being going behind the contract that they had at Borosul, because you signed a contract. Like contracts don't exist for no reason.

They're contracts for a reason. You signed something. And they were, you know, obviously they should be making a ton of money. But the first year number, you know, that's a pretty solid amount of money for your first year in a where you didn't know where this podcast was going to go. So I, I don't know. I think that it's just, I know, it's just, I know, it's just, but I think that, um, people, seem to be siding with Alex more, which I kind of, I understand because it seems like if

Suitman wasn't in the situation at all, maybe this would have never happened. But I don't agree with people like actually going out of their way to be very mean to Sophia because we never agree with that. Like that's just bad for somebody's mental health. I mean, you could not follow her and you could be like, yeah, I don't want to follow her anymore. I don't trust her. But to like actually be extremely mean, don't do that. And also, like you said, there could be a like there's a whole different this snowballed it's unbelievable how it started like kind of slow

and then things just exploded and as the snowball went down now it's just ginormous we don't know the details of Sophia and this dude's relationship like he could have really

like you said manipulated her got like just being a bad influence, it seems like maybe, I don't know for sure, but maybe this guy has some very negative feelings towards Barstool and wanted to screw over Barstool in general, regardless of what that meant for Sophia. Yeah, I just think it's a bad situation all around. Yeah. I think there was a lack of morals. I think that, you know, I think the ironic part about the whole thing is people were shocked by this. Yeah. But Alex and Sophia literally made a podcast about how to lie and manipulate and cheat on people.

And I'm not saying like, I mean, that's entertaining for people. People love listening to that. It's funny for them. You cannot be shocked that two hosts teaching you how to lie and manipulate and cheat were doing that in their own lives. Or else, why would they, why would they talk about it a little bit? Which, like I said, funny stuff. But in a. real life, not that funny because yeah, you guys right, right, because now there's all the memes and it's just like, I can't believe that of all

the times that they have said to, you know, don't talk about, you know, being in control of men, this man and controlled this situation. And it got, it just, like I said, it got super, super messy. And honestly, I really think like the biggest part of it was the lack of transparency and lying to

to their listeners. Like they, I think that they also had that relationship where they were like, we're always going to tell you guys the truth. We're going to tell you our real lives, detail by detail, not hold back. And then when it got to this situation and they left this trail and there was just nothing at the end of it. It's insane. It's insane.

It's insane. that like the end of the trail, they were doing that that whole time with the thoughts that they would be able to announce that they were taking their show somewhere else until they realized after speaking with Dave like, oh shit, we can't do that. I'm unsure. And like Dave said, the legal matters of it are a whole different thing because they had signed a contract and legally binding. Like if they decided that they were going to take the show and do it somewhere else, like Dave said, word for a word, we're going to sue the fuck after you.

Like, you just, you can't do that. You just can't do that, like you said. And I hope that a couple of things, actually, I hope that the people who thought that barstool was like the bad guys and, oh, big mean barstool. realize that like as much as people want to paint them out to be assholes, they're really not. Like they really are generous to the people that work for them. They, they tell you, you can do whatever you want as long as you're making content, make it funny, put it out there, just work. And we will compensate you for such. Just do your job. All they want people to do is do their job that they're hired for. So I hope people take that out of this whole thing. I hope that Alex and Sophia

realize that if they were to just maybe come together, come back from this, that they could be bigger than ever because now they have this drama behind them and now people will follow because they'll be like, oh shit, are they going to break up again? Now they have like a reality show situation to them. The first show of them, they do come back and the first show of them being back together is a smash hit. Like that's a must listen. It's like Kardashian. And I think that, like I find it crazy that people are like um because obviously Sophia Sophia fucked up big time but people are like I'm going to be the new host I'm going to be the new host I'm going to be the new host like I don't think you can just step in and be the new host like I think no those two have magic show and like

I don't know yeah it it's and maybe they'll learn to be a little more you know actually transparent with their fans this time around like not say they're telling you the truth and then lie to you, like, they'll actually tell you the truth because I'm sure the truth is probably more interesting than the lies. Yeah, it totally is. And that's, you could tell from Dave telling the story. Like, that was instantly shocked people. So here's the thing. You've got to, if they do come back, and I hope they do, because people really love them together and they made a great show and it would be sad if it all ended like this, especially from a friendship standpoint. Like, they lived together, their best friends.

If it all came crumbling down because of this, that's really fucking sad. So sad. You can't put that behind you. If we did that friend, I would be, I would be disgusted with us. We would never do that, but I'm just saying, like. No, I know. Like I said, the whole thing is just very sad. So hopefully they do come back.

Hopefully they lay it all out on the table. Just word vomit the truth at this point is I really think the best plan of action. 50-50, just do it. Like you got to go 50-50. And like you said, I personally, and I think I speak for both of us, Ria, like we have never had a problem where we thought like we needed to talk about our contract or salary or whatever where we couldn't go to Dave and Erica. and they would hear us out and are extremely accommodating.

Exactly. That's exactly my point with like, if you would have just came to the office and gotten to no bar stool and have gotten to talk to everybody, you would have realized that Dave and Erica are super chill if you have something to talk about. Like I think he went about the negotiation the wrong way. They want more money, which Dave said,

Alex went to him before for a raise. So why didn't you feel comfortable going for, the raise the second or third time. Like, that's what you do when you want to raise. You tell them the work you've been doing. And then they will accommodate. Yeah. And if they had spoken with lawyers or agents or whatever and had an idea of how much money

their show was making, which was millions of dollars, then they could very clearly say, this is what our show is making, this is the amount that I think I should make. and if it's preprosse, like insane, then yeah, maybe there's going to be some back and forth. But if you're reasonable, it's probably going to go your way. Exactly. I think that if they went to Dave and they were like instead of the lawyers and they were like, hey, we think 500K, this, that, the other thing, what Dave offered them, I think he would have been like, yeah, that makes sense. Like, I just, I have a, in working at Barstool,

And knowing, I just hope people now understand that, like, they're never trying to be the bad guys. Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you. So it's, it's crazy. And it is truly, like, one of the only things that people have been able to talk about all week. The memes are funny. Yeah. Yeah.

It's really crazy. And the, I'm sure there's just. just so many more layers to it. I wish Sophia gave us a little bit more, a little bit more, a lot more in the video, you know, that she posts on her Instagram story. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like there's so many more layers to this

that we don't even know. And that's also why I really hope that Alex and Sophia can somehow figure it out and get back online and get that show up and running because people will be lining up to listen to them talk about what happened. But actually talk about it. Yes. No, like I said, they need, like word vomit truth.

Like, they need to just tell us why you don't like each other right now. Yeah. What did she do wrong? What did she do wrong? Rash it out. Right. Reality TV like gold right there. Yeah.

Yeah. So it is. What happens? We shall see what happens. Quickly, not as interesting at all, but we talked about Macy's in the beginning and we talked about a lot of online shopping, which, yeah, this is totally. What a transition. I can't believe this.

Totally. Totally not as interesting at all, but I needed to mention it. People are my building. And by people, I mean, the employees. This just shows how exciting our lives are compared to what's going on. Right. people right i need to like spice it up friend let we need to get into some sort of fake fight that's why i tried with you in the beginning but it's not going to work we can't it's just not going to work um maybe me and

hank i don't even want to say it oh oh i know where you're going like a fake breakup no i'm kidding yeah i'm kidding i see people write that all the time you're like you have no idea how like the ratings i know i know but yeah at what point do i yeah at what cost at what cost so people tell you're talk about me a little bit? No, thanks. Okay, I'll pass on that. But anyway, my stable relationship. Yeah, I would like to enjoy the good relationship that I have at this moment. Super fair. Anyways, the employees in my building, I think, hate me because I've been getting a ton of packages and because places are sending, if you order a lot of stuff at once, they're sending them in multiple shipments, they now drop off my package. You know how they used to like ring the doorbell when

drop off the package. They ring it five times. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And they drop off the package. And it's so aggressive. Early in the morning, they do it on a final Wednesday morning, fucking five rings. I don't know what that's about. And I appreciate them dropping up the package very much. They know that. But five rings, they must be angry. They must be angry with how many times they're coming up here. That is very true. I mean, maybe, maybe I don't, I don't know what the solution is. maybe you need to like slip a $20 bill under the door or something because yeah i think of like i think of like dave with the unboxing right and oh well it's not that much at all no no no no of course not but that's right that was like my first thought when he did all that it was like oh my god this the uPS

people just that's right horrible um but yeah i mean so i just slip some money under the door or yeah maybe put it like in a little envelope and say like thanks so much for bringing all my packages yeah that's a good idea yeah i feel like they'll appreciate that and um it's people are'll stop the aggressive that and maybe like i'm you're not the only apartment like that's getting a ton of packages i can i can i can promise you that i think that's that's probably just uh the way things go these days because everybody's just ordering everything online. So true. Well, I'm glad I got that off my chest.

Just need to get that out there. But we have to get into our topics for this week. Oh, oh, wait. I wanted to say, before we get into topics, another super fascinating part of our lives right now because, you know, that's what you come and listen to us for, all the drama. My latest book that I read, I recommend. literally

literally put us well like this week on Chicks in the Office Ria is getting too many packages and Fran has another book to recommend top of the charts I finished The Giver of Stars Jojo Moise I thought it was

fantastic it was one of my favorites I've read so far in quarantine and it was really sweet I don't you know makes you kind of like cry at the end a great story and it's about like just these badass women in Kentucky in the 1930s and they are strong figures and they I don't want to get too much into it they create this packhorse library it's amazing I highly recommend

there's like drama there's love there's friendship it has it all it has it all um so that's the latest on Fran's book recommendations. I completely zoned out. No, I'm kidding. If anybody's looking for something else, I recommend that. People do look for recommendations, Fran. Next up. You know, I've gotten a, I wouldn't say, I literally would not be doing this if I didn't get, like, you know, a few replies to my Instagram posts of the books being like, keep recommending books like we love we love to see this so i'm like okay if you know six people love to see this i'll continue to talk about it um i watched little fires everywhere on hulu and i enjoyed it i never read the book so next up i'm reading the book so that's part that's next week on franz book club

very excited for you thank you good stuff one last thing i'll say one last thing i'll say yeah if you are reviewing our podcast because you think we are we are the call her daddy girls Please don't. Please go to the correct podcast because people are now reviewing the wrong podcast, Fran. Oh, shoot. They're commenting. They're commenting, like, Team Portnoy, like, with one star. Like, we are Team Portnoy.

We are. We are. We chose his side. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Wrong show. Wrong show.

Please. Real it in. But we shall get into the topics for this week. Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber get the number one song. on the Hot Build Board 100 chart, but 6-9 claims that they were faking it. So we get into that drama. A Very Cavalary is over as we know it. Kristen Cavalry announced that she will no longer be going on with this show. Megan Fox starred in Machine Gun Kelly's music video, so that goes a little explanation as to why they were seen together. We have our Listen to Your Heart recap with Trent. We have a great

interview with the Lady Gang of Becca, Kelty, and Jack. And of course, we have a little our feel-good segment. So let's get into it, starting off with Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber. Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber's song stuck with you has officially made it to number one on the Hot 100 Billboard charts. But this did not come easily and without any drama because 6-9 claims that Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber and Scooter Braun and the whole factory were buying the song in bulk so that Ariana Grande and Justin Bieber would become number one. Meanwhile, his song was number three. So if he was going to be number one, why wouldn't his song be at least number two? You're very right, Ria. You're very right. So this all is just

unnecessary drama from 6-9 being the menace to society that he is just an absolute an absolute menace. He obviously was pissed off. He won on these rants. He said in this video, he's like, I'm going to make this real quick because I'll be real disappointed if Bill Barr gets paid for number ones and somehow manipulates the charts. And, okay, and it's crazy because obviously the numbers that he produced for his song were huge. Like the YouTube, I think it broke

like YouTube records. Yeah. He released his first single Guba. Yep. Garnering the biggest 24-hour debut for a hip-hop video in YouTube history. So obviously that's a massive

accomplishment. Congrats. Woo-hoo. I won't I kind of fuck with the song if I'm trying to get hyped up. I wouldn't say it's groundbreaking music and anybody should be like honoring the song. But if you're trying to get pumped up, we're trying to party, which this video started to play. Okay. Sorry. Keep coming.

Like obviously we're not trying to party right now because we're all stuck inside of our homes. But I do like to get pumped up still just for no reason at all and like working out. And you put that song on. pumped up a little bit. But I haven't listened to it and I'm frankly, you wouldn't like it. You would be repulsed. I know that you would not like it. Yeah. Yeah. We're not, you know, you don't hate rap music, but you don't love it. You sure don't love it. No, no. I, I, yeah, you're right. Okay. So then obviously this whole, this blow up was trending on Twitter. It was all over the place that he was upset that he was, and he was basically insinuated.

that Grande, Bieber, Scooter Braun, that whole side was buying the song over and over again, kind of like in bulk to make sure that stayed at number one. But obviously, that's not what happened. Stuck with you. Did come out as the number one song on the chart. Ariana Grande wrote this whole long message about it. And she said, thank you to everyone who supported this song, this cause and made this happen. We love you so much. There's so much to celebrate today. However,

I would like to say a few things. Anyone who knows me or has followed me for a while knows that numbers aren't the driving force and anything I do. I'm grateful to sing. Grateful to have people who want to listen. Grateful to even be here at all. I didn't have a number one for the first five years of my career and it didn't upset me at all because from the bottom of my heart, music is everything to me. My fans are everything to me. I promise I couldn't ask for another fucking thing. So with this celebration today, I would like to address a few things, which I don't usually do. I don't like to give my energy to drama or strange accusations normally, but this has gone a little too far. My fans bought the song. Justin's fans bought the song. Our fans bought this song. Never more than

four copies each as the rules state. They are right or die motherfuckers and I thank God every day that I have them in my life, not just when they fight for us to win, even when I asked them not to as I did this week, but because they're some of the greatest people I know. Sales count for more than streams. You cannot discredit this as hard as you try. To anybody that is displeased with their placement on the chart this week or is spending their time racking their brain, thinking of as many ways as they can to discredit hardworking women and only the women for some reason,

I ask you to take a moment to humble yourself. Be grateful you're even here, that people want to listen to you at all. It's a blessed position to be in. I've had a lot of almost number ones in my career and never said a goddamn thing because I feel grateful to even be here, to be heard at all, and you should feel that way too.

Congratulations to all my talented ass peers in the top 10 this week, even number three. And thank you to Billboard for this honor. And thank you to everybody who helped us raise a lot of money for a very important cause this week. Love you a lot. So she just handed six, nine,

an absolutely beautifully worded slap in the face. Like it was a very well-written slap in the face. Like she could have made that super harsh. She, I thought she took the high ground, explained it very well and without saying hey look asshole how about you just be grateful

that your song is doing well you were just in jail like just just be happy with what you got maybe and stop being a piece of shit she could have said that but she didn't yeah Ariana Grande seems to always respond respectfully while dunking on the person so yes a respectful dunk

so them just getting number one and her going on that long paragraph, and it just speaks for itself. I mean, she does it in a classy way. Personally, I probably would have called 6-9 an asshole, so it's nice to see that Ariana Grande kept that inside, but I'm sure she's on the phone with people being like, Takashi 6-9 is a fucking asshole.

Behind the scenes, that's what's being said. But, you know, she did it a nice way, this long paragraph, and congrats to Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande for getting number one. That's huge. It definitely is. Zara Larson commented, in all caps, tell the rat with a bunch of exclamation points.

And then just rub queen. I came across a picture from Rolling Loud. I forgot that when they broadcasted Takashi 6-9's face on the screen and wrote, stop snitching. I forgot that happened. And I just came across all the pictures the other day. Yep, that did happen. and, you know, Scooter also commented on it and kind of clarified a little bit with just how things are charted in general.

He said only domestic streams are counted for a domestic chart. If someone is counting their total, they aren't counting correctly. Two, we never disclose our sales until end of week. That is called strategy and is an always been our policy. Three, Nilsson and Bill by Rule estate, clearly one credit card can only buy max four copies. Anything above that, the entire amount gets thrown out. They review that. All must be confirmed, which is, which it was.

No one should discredit your amazing fan base with lies. Yes, there was an investigation this week, but it was into a video that had six times the amount of paid bot activity than the normal video. That video was not ours. So then there's the other side of this, because now people were saying that Takashi, they got bots to stream the video on YouTube, and that's why that number was so big.

And also it makes sense. A US chart, domestic YouTube, obviously. the number is everyone in the world that's watched it. So if that number is huge, only a percentage of that is the U.S. listens. So why does it always have to be that somebody who has huge numbers or is successful, it has to be faking it or buying it and whatnot? It's really annoying. Like, Takashi 6'9, huge music video, were people watching that all over the world? Yes, do I think there were bots? No. Same thing with Justin Bieber and Ariana Grande. Why? do people believe that Ariana Grande's fans wouldn't just buy a song. Huge fans of her. That's very clear everywhere.

So yes, people are going to buy her song. I don't know why it always has to be a thing where people have to be like, this person's faking it. That person's faking it. They're fucking huge artists. They're not faking it. I don't put it past Takashi 6'9 to maybe have some bots view in that video. I don't think you are giving Takashi 69 as much credit. I don't think No, I know he is ginormous I understand No, that I absolutely understand

But To have the I mean I guess it's possible I don't know I don't know It is possible I just get frustrated that it's all It's always oh this person must be faking it

This person must be faking it Like they just have fans People there's a you know A ton of people in this fucking world And they're fans of different artists. It's official. Very Cavalry is no more.

Kristen posted on her Instagram that, you know, moving on this new chapter of her life, she will no longer be doing the show, that she loved doing the show, had so much fun, but, you know, it's come to its end. And I'm, I'm surprised by this and not surprised at the same time,

only because this is where reality TV flourishes post-divorce. This is the stuff people want to see. The ratings probably would have been huge for a post-J situation and, you know, if she was talking about this. But I'll understand this is something that's very personal to her. She was always more private about her family life on the show that she was her business life and everything that, you know, went on with Uncommon James and her employees and all that. So I do, I do understand it at the same time, but I was, I'm still kind of surprised. I'm not that surprised because I feel like Kristen Cavalry and Jay Cutler very much

do not like each other right now. And if I had to guess, I would say that Kristen Cavalary has no problem with continuing reality TV in her life because she has always been on reality TV whereas Jay Cutler I could see him being like, listen, I'm not with you anymore. I don't want to be on reality TV. But a lot of people really like Jay Cutler on the show. So if Jay Cutler leaves the show, that takes away viewers.

So I feel like it was probably a little bit of back and forth between Kristen Capillary and E, and realizing that this show is, not going to be the same anymore if Jay Cutler's not on it and I can't show my divorce. It's fake then. It's not a reality TV if I can't show what's going on in my actual life. Right. So what I also find interesting about this is the timeline because obviously this all just came out. But when we interviewed Kristen way back when and we had talked to her about the hills coming back and everything, it was clear that because of her situation with E, she could not appear on the

Hills on MTV. And then I want to say a couple months ago, it came out that Kristen was going to appear on a couple episodes of the second season of the Hills, not as a full cast member, but she was going to appear in an episode or maybe two, I don't know, which, makes me think how long has this all been going on? Has she known for a while that they weren't going to be doing the show again

because was she able to do that with MTV because she already knew that she wasn't going to be doing more of very cavalry, in which case like this just it's crazy because I feel like

she's been dealing with so much for so long and it all seems like it's happening right now. Right. But it's probably been over the course of months now. Exactly. And I said this on the group chat earlier today that maybe she'll just go back on the hills.

Like, you know, if Eid doesn't want to do a deal with her anymore and they're not going to have a show anymore, what's stopping her from having a part of a reality show? You know what I mean? They just gave her a small part of her. Right. Nashville. He just has a little bit of a, oh, true, I forgot she's not. She just doesn't live in L.A. I forgot about that.

I forgot about that. Oh, well, you know, we could dream. A girl can dream. I know. That Brody Jenner and Kristen Cavaleri will somehow start hooking up again. That would be. I feel like what it would be. Goes for the youngings nowadays.

Over 18, but younger girls, of course. For sure. I think Kristen. Young blondes. Yeah. I think Kristen is a little bit too mature. for him these days. He doesn't want kids.

Right. She's a grown-ass woman with a family, and Brody Jenner is not on that level. He's not on that level, no. He just wants a quick bang. I will say so. I will say, though, about Brody Jenner.

Yeah. The guy is ageless. Like, he truly just stays looking fine as in every picture. I know. It's crazy. This guy does not age. There are so many celebrities that I would love to know, like, what they do to their face and everybody does something. Like, I would love to know what they're doing.

Brody Jenner might be at the top of that list because I had the same thought, Ria watching his Instagram stories the other day. It was, like, really close to, it was really close to his face and, like, really close to his forehead. And I, I was like, with the amount of sun that this guy gets, he's always outside, surfing, boarding, whatever it is, he's got no wrinkles. Nothing. Nothing. I'm like, what?

Perfect skin. Flawless. Yeah. You are right. He's got to have some secrets. There has to be. Like, every time, you're so right. That's what I'm talking about.

Every time I see his face, I'm like, that is a perfect face. Is it Botox? Because if it's Botox, he's getting some great boats. Talks done. Right, let me know. Let us know. Let us know what's going on. The simulation just went back. Quick update about the Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly situation. We thought they were dating. Megan Fox and her husband, Brian Austin Green, have actually separated. He said it on a podcast. They are not together right now. So when Megan Fox and Machine and Kelly were seen together,

people were speculating. Are these two dating? What's going on? Turns out Megan Fox was in his music video for his song, Bloody Valentine. And maybe there is something going on behind the scenes. But now that I'm thinking about it, it probably had to do with something, the fact that they were going to do a movie together and now lockdowns happening. And he wanted to do a music video and Megan Fox stepped in. For sure. And maybe I...

On the side, slightly. Yeah. It's, that is the logical reasoning. but when you watch this music video and you see the two of them together, it's tough to believe something's not going on. They have a lot of... They have a lot of chemistry.

Like we said last time, rock and roll royalty, like, first of all, I have not even heard this song before from Machine Gun Kelly, and I think the song is great. I, you know, Machine Gun Kelly seems to have maybe... switched his vibe musically sometimes.

I didn't know that this was what he has been doing, but the song's great. And when you listen to the words, like there's points when in the video, Megan and Machine and Kelly are singing this song almost like to each other. Like she's also singing it. And it has like forbidden love vibes to it.

Yes, exactly. Like, came back in tail on feet. Like you want what I can't have. I'm in love with the girl that's married kind of situation. But now she's separated and now we can be together. It's not weird. I'm rooting for them as a couple.

I would totally get behind Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly. She's only four years older than him, as Noah pointed out to me earlier. And so I don't think that's a crazy age difference. You know, it's not like they're 20 years apart. It's a beautiful blended family. Beautiful. I would really be rooting for them. And to just see Megan Fox in movies again

would be outstanding. Really haven't seen her much. Yeah. It was great just to see her in the music video. Yeah, it was like, wow. I really felt like I was watching Confessions of a Teenage Drama Queen again. Except she's way older and more matured. For our feel good segment this week, honestly,

shout out to the comments by celebs girls because they posted all of these things. and they're great, really just taking them straight for their Instagram because it made me so happy. And I will say, I did have a listener send me one of them before, and then it ended up on comments by Slubs also. Number one is this FedEx delivery guy. Very cute. He said he ran into a kid on his route that he's maybe eight or nine years old, Cooper. and he had this old-ass skateboard, like, falling apart. And he was like, can you please get this to Tony Hawk? So cute.

He wrote his name on one side, Tony Hawk on the other, like on the actual skateboard. And obviously, you know, the FedEx guy was like, sure, yeah, of course. You know, the mom's like wink at him. Like, yeah, just tell him they'll send it to Tony Hawk. And he's like, yeah, of course. He said, whatever, I'll send it. So he posts this video online of the skateboard and everything. So cute.

And of course, Tony Hawk, what a guy. Tony Hawk, like, always, I feel like whenever there is some kind of video that needs a response from Tony Hawk, Tony Hawk responds. So he had commented on it, tell Cooper I got him, and I'll trade him for a new board. And then Tony Hawk posts, this is all on TikTok. Tony Hawk posts on his own TikTok. He sent it to the FedEx delivery guy. I was like, thanks for relaying Cooper's message gift. I'll DM my address and FedEx number.

he said he was going to send Cooper one of his own skateboards that he had in the video, held it up and was like this one's going to Cooper, keep doing you, pal. It's just so cute. Amazing. Didn't we talk about this recently on a podcast like when your mom or dad has to fake sending something to a celebrity and then act like they write back

but then it turns out Tony Hawk actually is now sending you a skateboard? With the power of the internet now, it's like, you know, parents can fake it, but with the hope that something could eventually happen because that's just the power of the internet these days. And the same thing, honestly, with this second one, this is, this had everybody like literally crying. It was so nice. A Humans of New York Post was this girl's story about the man that ended up marrying her father when she was young. They had a great relationship. He was a cop. He was an artist, but then became a cop. And he continued to work on his art and he would paint and he did all

this. But eventually, very sad, he was diagnosed with MS. So he slowly was unable to continue to do his art. And one of the last things that he ever did was this painting of Sting. And she wrote that, you know, in his final days they were going through his possessions. She wrote, he was telling me who to give them to. I pulled the sting painting out of an old box and asked, what should I do with this? His response was immediate.

Give it to Sting, he said. All of us started laughing. But Dag were very serious. His eyes narrowed. He looked right at me and said, give it to Sting. So I guess that's my final assignment. And that was the end of the Humans of New York Post. And then

Sting's daughter commented on the post at Humans of New York, DM me, just three different comments, DM me, then she commented, just texted her, we'll keep you posted, then she wrote update, we connected, crying emoji, and working out logistics. Love, love, love.

So just another one really pulls at the whole heartstrings. Also, when you have, like, a daughter or a son or whoever on the internet, this also brings people together, like you said. Yeah, exactly. Anything is possible. Yeah, the humans of New York Posts are always either just like heart-wrenchingly sad or hopeful or, you know, a crazy story.

So when these people tell their story and get the result that they want, like this girl writing, you know, this was my final assignment from my dad and actually a bit, Actually being able to fulfill that, knowing that now her dad is no longer with them, like, is very emotional and so, so cool. Instagram. The power of Instagram. The power of, and TikTok now. And TikTok and comments by celebs. And comments by celebs.

These girls. And literally, okay, and the last thing I want to talk about, which is not a heartfelt humanitarian story. Legally Blonde 3. I'm very excited about this. Lili Blonde 3, it is happening. I know that Legally Blonde 2 wasn't exactly it. That's fine. Reese Witherspoon is going to do Legally Blonde 3, and Mindy Kaling just signed on to write it,

which is great because, I mean, I don't think Mindy Kaling will ruin Legally Blonde. No, she'll only make it better. Exactly. And truthfully, you can only go up from Legally Blonde 2, you know? Yeah. I even remember us legally blown, too. Exactly. Exactly.

It was on TV the other night. I'm not going to lie. I put on like a half hour of it and was like, oh, it's just, it's tough because it's just not, it's just not legally blonde. But hopefully, legally blonde three with the help of Mindy Kaling will be amazing. Mindy and Reese have worked together on things before and they've always been fantastic. So I think that's going to be pretty awesome. And now enough time has passed that it can be just as.

funny and great as the original where it doesn't seem like they're trying to copy the original. Yeah, exactly. And Reese, think, Reese has an age today, so it's unbelievable. And I'm sure Elle Woods will be doing something awesome. Right. And if they need any flashbacks, just get Reese's daughter because she looks exactly like her. Very, very true. Times are tough right now, and I don't know about you guys, but with everything going on, I could use a Beer. Coors Light is helping to give beer to friends and family members who deserve some right now. Just using the hashtag, hashtag could use a beer is a reminder that taking time to pause with a cold one can refresh us to keep pressing on even during the most unusual of circumstances.

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Monday's episode, we watched them all in Nashville. This is the last stop. And it started off with Matt and Rudy, clearly not on the same page. We had like a half hour of them going back and forth. It's very hard. It was very clear that it's very hard for Matt and Rudy, at least during this show,

to communicate. Mostly, I think, because Matt would explain how he was feeling, and then Rudy would just immediately burst into tears. Every single time. Every single time they would have a sit down, you could see, and sometimes Matt doesn't have the right wording, or he doesn't say correctly, it's not all that eloquent, but he does try to get his point across.

Like, remember, you're very courageous for saying you're falling for me. Not great, but that is how he genuinely felt. But yeah, every time it happens, Rudy just, she ends up on a bed with her head covered and she's just crying. And it's unfortunate. And I kind of harped on it last week and I don't want to be mean towards Chris and Bree, but they screwed everything up. They screwed every relationship in that house by how fast it went. They are ready to get married. I actually don't know what their present day update is, but I'm guessing they're still together.

But in that house, they screwed up almost every other relationship because of, of how fast they went. Right. And what's also interesting about it because obviously Matt had explained to Rudy, like, I'm not on the same level as you, which kind of made it seem like that they had to go home, which was confusing because it was like, well, why wouldn't you just wait it out? You have one more performance left and just see what happens. But I saw some tweets also from like Beckettili and Ashley I going back and forth and like Ashley was questioning how much the producers had to do with Matt and Rudy leaving. Like maybe they only wanted two couples in the, in the finale actually performing,

or maybe they wanted like some, you know, one last big blowup breakup so that, you know, there was something else to happen. Who knows? Because logically, you would just think that, hey, like, you can probably weigh it out. Unless Matt really did get into his head and see, you know, Chris and Bree and Trevor and Jamie who they thought were like way, way ahead of them and just thought like it wasn't even playing field? I don't know.

And this is where the, this is where the whole point of the show is complicated too, because we talked about this. Like, what's the most important thing? Being in love or like being super talented? Because if it was being super talented, Matt and Rudy should have just went to the end and saying and like they could have won. 100%. But clearly, love in some way was the more important thing to get to that spot.

There might be something. Like you had to like be in love to be in the finale. Which I don't know. I don't remember that being a hard and fast rule that maybe like Chris Harrison. At the beginning, Chris Harrison maybe needed to be like, hey man, you got to be straight up in love if you want to sing in our finale. Seriously. Although going back to what you said about Ashley and Becca, I feel like there might be something to that with them saying that maybe they wanted just two groups to be in the final.

I remember being confused at the end of the fifth of the fifth week where they sent home one group to leave three couples left. That was confusing to you because if you're going into a final, you probably only want two couples competing for that. So maybe they kept Matt and Rudy around like you said for one more dramatic blowup. It's just a real shame that Matt and Rudy were the couple to go home because I think they have the most potential. Chris and Bree, they had a great performance last performance clearly. But Matt and Rudy, I mean, Rudy is ultra talented. Oh yeah. Absolutely. And it was just, it was just a tease because they gave them all their songs and we found out that they would be singing a Whitney Houston song and then they just ripped that away from us.

Like they just absolutely stole that moment from us. Thankfully, Rudy on her own Instagram did post a clip of her singing the song because she did see all the people who, wanted to see that performance like me. And even on the Instagram, she fucking knocked it out of the park. Right, she was singing, and it wasn't a, she wasn't on stage,

it wasn't professional sound. No, wasn't like the best sound quality, and she still chilled it. She sounded fantastic. So it was a real shame, but I mean, Matt didn't think he was in a place

where they could continue. But, Fran, like you said, you just maybe pretend you're in love and then go to the, final and and knock Trevor and Jamie out of there. Right. Like normally, if this was any other Bachelor show, we would, we would be totally against the person that was like faking being in lump. But it's just such a weird thing. Like we're like, I don't know. There's, there were six episodes. Just make to the end. Sing your, sing your song. We'll see what happens. But Matt and Rudy,

they left, which just left, Chris and Bree and Jamie and Trevor. They had their final. dates. And honestly, you know, they were happy couples. They did just some classic ABC manipulation for The Bachelor. You went into the final performances thinking maybe Jamie and Trevor were going to take it. Because they tried to make it seem like Jamie and Trevor were the more secure couple and that maybe Chris and Bree, like some things were coming up because Chris and Bree, they both agreed to not have the fantasy suite, which, you know, that's fine. Jamie and Trevor did choose

to have a fantasy suite. Not a surprise. Yeah, not a surprise at all. Let me ask you this. Did you think, did you see fantasy suites coming? That wasn't even on my radar. I was one of the few moments this season of this show where I was like, this is amazing. Like this is, I didn't see fantasy sweets coming and I did see Trevor and Jamie for sure taking them up on that offer. Um, But Chris and Bree, what a mature move by them to be like, no, I want to connect more on an emotional and that type of level before we make things physical. They're just like the perfect couple. Yeah. It was shocking because ABC did as much, like the producers of the show did as much as they could do to make it seem like maybe Chris and Bree were going to have a problem.

Like the way they teased every part of it, like they made, you would think like, oh shit, maybe something's going to happen. Even in the preview when they were sitting at dinner and they were getting the fantasy sweet card, you weren't really sure what was going on, but with the music, and they had Bree like kind of stuttering over her words a little bit and being like, well, I don't want to take things too far. And then it was just like Chris's face, like not saying anything. And you're like, oh shit, is something happening? When in reality, it was Bree being like, I care for you too much. And I think we should keep building our emotional connection.

And Chris being like, I absolutely agree with you. And there was, there was no problems to be had at all. So they made it seem like maybe that was going to be a thing. It wasn't Jamie and Trevor, like Jamie and Trevor cute. Jamie is, you know, an adorable Disney princess, like we said. It just, you know, never thought Jamie and Trevor would see the light of day after this show.

Pretty sure we were correct on that one. Yeah. And they sang their final songs. Someone put the Trevor and Jamie thing to me perfectly. said on Twitter it was and they said, Trevor has somehow put in 0% and 110% at the same time. You can just see like the one foot

that he has in the door is firmly, firmly planted in there like, yep, I'm totally into Jamie. I think this will definitely work. I think we could be superstars after this. And then the other foot is just running away. And he is just like, I'm out of here. If we don't win this and we don't get a record deal or again, whatever the prize was,

I kind of forget, I'm just out of here. I'm not even dealing with Jamie for another week or so. Yeah. No, that is a absolutely perfect description of it. I thought that too when I saw that tweet it's just really described it so well. So they had their last

performances in Nashville. Star-studded judging panel. Obviously saved the best for last. They had Caitlin and Jason, Rita Wilson, Taye Diggs, and Jewel. I mean, when was the last time you saw

Jewel? Just really amazing stuff. She doesn't age. She does not age. She looks amazing. She looks exactly. Like you said, I probably haven't seen her in 15 years and she looks exactly the same. Right.

And just a lot of cool people wearing cool hats. You know, Jewel had a cool hat. Tate Diggs had a cool hat. Caitlin can rock a hat. She should have worn one just so everyone could have been in cool hats. But they, it was a great judging panel. Jamie and Trevor They

Jamie I thought performed the best she has this whole time Yep Trevor just Trevor's just like a very average singer Like there's just nothing really there That might even be generous

Briah did that peak your interest I thought you were getting ready to say something about Trevor She was getting a little bit closer to the microphone of me talking about how Trevor's not that good. Barry him. Well, I've been looking for something to shit on Trevor about considering he didn't do any of the slime ball activity I thought he would participate in on this show. Now, I don't know, maybe they swept some things under the rug. I'm on to this guy still. I still don't think he's a good guy. Like, everyone could be like, oh, Rhea, he didn't do anything wrong on the show. No, he didn't do

anything wrong on the show, maybe. But in real life, we have not heard great things. I'm going to stick by the fact that I don't trust Trevor, and I would not recommend Kelly Keege spawning over him on Twitter because he's also not that great of a singer. It feels like... He doesn't have it. He doesn't have it. He thinks he has it, but he does not have it. He's got by, let's be honest,

he's got by on his good looks for some time. But people who look that way do not make me... It's such a, it's a hard thing to explain. But people who are like, what is it, convectionally? Is that the word I'm looking for, good looking? Convectionally, I don't know. Conventionally, conventionally.

Conventionally? Convectionally, like it's an oven. Infection. I was like, that's definitely not the right word. I had a feeling it was conventionally, but I just, I wanted to turn on that convection big. I wanted to turn up that heat a little bit. Heat coming from all sides.

Okay. are always so good-looking, like, that genuinely turns me off. Like, for some reason, it's like, you think you're so good-looking that you don't even have to have a personality. Right. You know what I mean? Like, his personality, if any good-looking features this guy may have, because he is now not, I was going to say ugly, but I don't want to be too mean because he's not ugly.

No, he's still an attractive guy. Let's not get it twisted. The only reason he is on the show is because he looks like Jed. That's the whole reason they cast him. He wears the same stupid jackets. He kind of looks like him in the face. And everyone looks like that guy looks like Jed. I'm convinced that as the reason he was cast.

It feels like 100 years ago that Natasha showed up and was like, I got the dirt on Trevor. I'm going to bury him on this show. And Jamie's not going to want to go anywhere near him for some reason. It flipped the other way. And Jamie fell even more in love with him. You're right, Rhea. There's something going on with him.

and I think it came to light where they're not together anymore. He used Jamie for the show to be like, I'm super in love with you. Let's try to win this thing. And as soon as that didn't happen, they're not together anymore. So that's what Trevor's like. Exactly. He's just trying to get to fame.

It's not going to happen for you, buddy. Give it up. And you know what? Yeah. It goes back to my hands up if anyone was curious. It also goes back to like his American Idol audition. which I did, I have seen because like he sang and Katie Perry was just like, you're so hot.

So clearly he's gone very far. Fuck you, Katie Perry. And can you imagine? I guarantee Trevor's now using like, oh, I was on Listen to Your Heart. I made it to the final two couples. I'm going to be the superstar on whatever reality show he goes on next. All the other contestants are going to be like, that's the American Idol. Listen to your heart guy.

Right. And so, I mean, look, this is obvious, like, their performance was, it was, it was good, it was, but it, you know, did it make me feel. If you're a girl who hooks up with Trevor, I just, I don't want to be too mean, but just do better. Do better for yourself. Don't sit there and say, oh, I'm going to hook up with this guy because he's been on fucking American Idol and listen to your heart. It's not worth it because he's been on American Idol and listen to your heart. Think about how ridiculous that sounds. And get yourself a winner. He didn't win. He didn't even win. Don't hook up with the runner up. Hook up with the winner if you're going to do anything.

Might. Exactly. I just wanted to put that out there. You know, some people will do things for clout and that's fine, but make sure it's good clout. Right. Like I said, they were just pretty fine. Didn't really make me feel anything, which is, you know, not a good thing. um katelyn had a very funny comment about you know fantasy suites because she had felt there was some

kind of chemistry between them pretty much just saying like it feels like you guys have banged or are about to bang um so that's okay yeah she was good yeah i was i thought she added a lot to it some of the other um who were the oh um Lauren and Ari obviously bit of a miss but like Caitlin she's got such an awesome personality that like She was perfect. I wish she had been in like all three weeks. I know, right? They should have just kept between like those two and Jojo and Jordan.

So what was I going to say? Oh, yeah. So they performed. They had their songs. They were fine. Chris and Brie came out and I thought they crushed it. I mean they, I had goosebumps. It was making me emotional.

It was a beautiful performance. everybody felt it. As soon as we were like 30 seconds into that song, I was like, I can't believe I ever thought that Jamie and Trevor had a chance to win this over Chris and Bree. It's not even close. That just shows how good the Bachelor producers are

at making us like, oh, what's going to happen? Totally. Like, doubting that they were going to lose that. Insane. Also, it was funny that during Trevor and Jamie's performance, they would cut back to Chris and Bree being like, man, they're doing pretty well up there. That's pretty good.

And then when Chris and Bree were up, they're singing, very, very few cuts back to Trevor and Jamie to the point where I thought they had exited the building. Like they're like, oh, this is definitely like they're way, way better than us. So we're just going to go all over. Right. Totally. So obviously Chris and Brie were crowned the winners.

Very well deserved. They, I don't think they got a record deal as a prize. I think they were able to record. an album or record, you know, a collection of songs because they, there is a, uh, you can listen to it right now. It's called Chris and Bree. And it's like, I think there's a couple other things, but it's mostly the music that they did sing on the show. Okay. And then I think they are supposed, you know, whatever, they're supposed to tour. That was like the other part of it, that they would tour together. Obviously, that's not happening at the current moment, but maybe it'll happen down the line. Um,

And then, you know, if you were curious about where these people are now, Chris and Bree, still together, doing well. And I think, unfortunately, they're, like, in different places right now. So I'm sure that's tough. But. Oh, really? Yeah. I think I read an entertainment tonight article that said that they have been doing long distance, but they're making it work. And, you know, marriage has been discussed as a possibility down the line. So hopefully. hopefully they're good. Jamie and Trevor, not together, not shocking. But it doesn't seem like anything bad happened. Like it just seemed like it was over. They have both spoken about each other

and posted about each other saying really nice things. So, but it doesn't seem like they're still together. Matt and Rudy are working, I don't know, working on it kind of like they're not together, but they still talk all the time. and they're it's so hard right now because like I said everybody's in different places so that's basically what everyone's been saying like they're like oh it's tough because you know we're obviously

in different locations so we haven't been able to see each other but we still talk and we'll see what happens so they're at TBD and so is Ryan and Natasha Ryan and Natasha really yeah Ryan and Natasha said that they still talk, they're still working things out, and they're doing music together. Like, I think they have, they've been, they have realized that they have good, whatever, just chemistry as a duo. And they've both been teasing on their social media music coming from the both of them. So, if anything, they're still singing together. But she said that they said the same thing. Like, they still talk all the time, but they're in different locations.

So things are hard. but it's not not happening. Out of all of the couples, out of all of them, I'm sure Chris and Bree, they seem pretty solid. They seem solid from the moment they walked into that guitar center, I think they're going to, you know, probably be together going forward. The only other couple that I care about are Matt and Rudy. I hope they make it.

I think that would be awesome. I don't know if they're going to run this show back or whatever, but have them back as judges and then they're making music together. I think, yeah, I hope they end up together for sure. I'm with you on that. I was definitely a fan of them as a couple. And I mean, Chris and Bree, they had it from the beginning. There was no doubt.

They fell in love, you know, the second they saw each other. And it was a easy, easy win. Literally the second that they saw each other. Yeah, exactly. Completely over. So I think if you look at it as a whole, I think they're the correct people to win the whole thing. Yes, for sure.

Now, this is a question I have for all of us. so we can discuss. In a couple weeks, we'll have the Bachelor greatest seasons of all time shows happening. Yep. Trent, would you like to talk with us about those?

Oh, yes. I want to talk about them because I feel like there's going to be a lot of seasons that you guys didn't watch and I would love to like see your reactions

to a lot of the things that happened. Yeah, if you guys weren't to recap those, I'm in on that, because like you said, There are going to be a few. I've seen the previews, and there's a couple of seasons that I definitely saw, and a couple of seasons that I definitely did not see. And yeah, I'm really excited for that,

just being able to go back in the history books and see some of those famous seasons. Totally. I think it'll be a lot of fun. Okay, good. Glad we came to that agreement. I'm glad that every time we wrap up a show, we have another one to talk about. There's another one on deck. That's thankfully that, you know, they have gifted us with that,

even when they aren't able to do bachelor and bachelor in Paradise. so thanks for that at least. Yeah, hopefully by the end of when they're rerunning the greatest seasons, hopefully we're kind of more... Yeah. ...to shooting the season of The Bachelorette, but who knows? I know. I hope so. Fingers crossed.

All right, guys, that's it for Listen to Your Heart. We are here with three very special guests from the Lady Gang, Kelty, Becca, Jack. Welcome back to the show. You guys were once on this show like a year and a half ago maybe. And we're really excited to have you guys back. Thanks. You're our favorite show to do. Oh, you don't have to love to us.

Thank you. You probably tell that's everyone. You guys let me have a full episode talking about Love Island. How can that not be my favorite thing to do in the entire world? They did? That is true. Yep. I don't remember that.

A whole recap. It was recent. Holy cow. Because there's like, there's, we have not a. found as many people out there. People love Love Island, but Ria and I loved it so much, and we found out that Jack loved it as much as we did. And we were like, well, we got to have Jack to come talk about it because nobody else understands. And nobody gets it. Yeah, people need to get on the Love Island train because it is the best reality show ever. But anyway. Yeah. Before we started,

I was telling Becca and Kelty, Jack, now you're here, that you three, your Instagram stories are three people that I actually put the sound on and I watch every single one. I don't do that for everybody, but I'm very interested in your guys' lives. I really am. Where did I win you over just like it? You like was it like my like vertical planter? I'll tell you guys each each thing about you that won me over. Okay. Kelty, it was your dancing TikTok dance because I like I like TikTok a lot. So when I see other people doing TikTok, I'm like, yes, let's go. Becca, can I say what mine is? Wait, Ria, can I say what mine is before you?

Okay, I'm going to say, Kelty, yours is your home tours. I have for some reason, I'm like, I don't even have a home. Why do I care? I don't know. But like, I'm like, wow, I'm like, wow, Kelty's home is so nice. Okay. Come on over for a sleepover. Yeah.

Moving on to Becca. You cooking for your husband. I very much enjoy because sometimes it's bad and sometimes it's good. And I wait on the edge of my seat seeing which one it is. It's usually bad. I am terrible, terrible, terrible. Like an example is I make rice a couple times a week because it's so, quote, easy. I've probably made rice 15 times.

And last night I made it. And it was like crunchy and I could not figure out what I did. And I put the wrong amount of water in it. So it's like, I can't even get that right. Same. That's okay. I have the same issue. I feel like I can cook, but I can't bake. Anytime I bake something, it tastes like shit. So I give up on that. Jack, your Instagram stories, it goes back to Love Island. As soon as you were posting about Love Island constantly, I was like, I have to see every time she posts because now she always is writing about reality TV shows like us, and I love it. And also, I'd like to add that last time you were here, with us, when you guys, the three of you came, Jack was all like, oh, I'm single. Is anybody in this office single? Oh, yeah. And then the next week, she had a boyfriend. Yeah. The next week. She works fast. You know what? I had a boyfriend during that time. Well, we had been dating,

but I hadn't made him my boyfriend yet. So it's still kind of, you know, seeing what else was out there to see if, you never know. And there wasn't anything. So it's done it made him. boyfriend. So you, so you said all day now you're happy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everybody does. Weighed all the options and decided that this was, this was the best, the best decent one. No, he's amazing. But I did, I do remember there's like somebody at your office that I was like, that's the guy. No, it was somebody who was tall. That was. Yeah. He was like, he was. He was tall. He was, I don't even know if he had a face, but he was tall. He doesn't need a

face if he's tall. I know who it was and he was fired. So, move alone. Move along. We move along. You know your friend that got to be the suitcase guy on The Bachelor? Oh my God. Yes. Yeah. Brent. Is he single? Yes.

Trent is single, yeah. Has his DMs, like, has he gotten lots of dates since he appeared on Bachelor? You know, you know what? I don't know. I'm sure he has, but he does not tell us. Yeah. We don't really have that kind of relationship with him where he, like, wants to tell us his personal life. But it's not like that.

It's not like we're, like, not close. with him, I don't think he tells anybody. He's right. Yeah, yeah. I do have to say that his whole storyline with the suitcase situation was the purest form of happiness have ever seen anybody experience. Yeah. He's good for him.

I know. Good for him. It was just a, right. It's just dreams coming true. Thanks to ABC. It's really made it happen for them for him. In a single suitcase. Speaking of dreams coming true, you guys release your book, Act Like a Lady, which is super exciting.

Congratulations to you guys, yes, releasing. I have it next to me. She has it next to her. There you go. She's showing it off. Super exciting. I actually really quickly, I had a dream about you guys the other night because I knew that we would be interviewing you guys about this book and just about your lives in general. But all three of you had George Washington hair.

like orange. And Fran was blackout drunk swab kabob and she couldn't even make it through the interview. It was so embarrassing and I was so embarrassed. And I just wanted you guys know that you guys are so present in my life that you're in my dreams. Wow. Wow. I think we need those wigs. I was just like, are you on to something? Like the Zoom interviews, like if we're going to do all of our book promo like on Zoom should we be in a costume every time? Yes. Yes. We just come as a different theme. Maybe I have an idea of the theme we should do. So in one of Jack's essays, she runs through a list of like all the guys she's dated in her life. And she's given them all like really great names like mattress Mike, the guy who never put a mattress on anything other than his floor. What else?

Like cheap Chuck. Like he always splits the bill. Yeah. Be the one of those guys on every Zoom call. Just me? No, one of us. No, we should all choose our favorite. I love that because it's like,

Fran told me to watch Middle Ditch and Schwartz on Netflix, the improv comedy, and I watched it last night. And I just love improv and how people can just, like, come up with different characters. Because I do that in myself, like in my own mind. I pretend to be different people. So if you guys went on Zoom and just as different people, I would highly enjoy that. Like in five minutes, if you broke out,

to mattress my character. Yeah. I think that everybody is sick of watching these online interviews anyways, so it's like, we got to switch it up. What's going to make us go outside of the box? Or you could just pretend, like, you should all switch just who each other is. Like, if somebody is interviewing you who, like, doesn't really know you are, you just change your names.

So, like, you all have separate names on Zoom. Yes. You just pretend to be, you just pretend to be the other person for the intent. entire interview and I can see if that if they noticed that's actually a really fun idea for a podcast maybe one episode we should do it as another one of us yeah so like the whole time yes as the other person that's so good guys think we're somewhere should we join groundlings yes and then and then have fran and i on and we'll act as guests but we act as each other as well incredible it really throws everybody off

It's a huge mind fuck. Wow. It's like an escape room. It's a podcast. Right. We're just like really trying to fuck up everybody's lives right now because everybody's... It's so easy. Everything is so simple.

Yeah. Everybody's living such a calm life. Yeah. But I want to talk about this book because first of all, like I said, congrats to you guys. This is absolutely amazing and such an accomplishment. But I want to know where this idea came from and how it all got started. Hmm.

That's he? Yeah. I will be, I will be playing the part of Becca. I never wanted to write this fucking book, and I still hate it. Yeah. You know, it's just one of those things that we would say so many times on the podcast,

like, oh, you know, we started using these, like, weird words that we would make up the Lady Gang dictionary, and we'd be like, oh, we'll put it in the dictionary, we'll put it in the dictionary. So we always had this, like, stupid thing where we'd come to each other and be like, I have a word, tamponisia. What does that mean again? when you forget that you have a tampon up and you forget to take it out.

Did you just have tampeenia? I know. Because I'm the one that gets Tampnesia anyway. It's like literally my word. I left one in for like four days once. Anyway. Long story. And then she had sex, right?

Isn't that how you found it? No, I found, no, it got pushed up because of the sex. I was on my period. I had drunk Mexican margarita sex on a trip to Cabo and got pushed up. and then I didn't realize that it was in there and then started stanks stanks that is my biggest sick my absolute biggest fear is for getting yeah no and no it happens way more than you on go all like two having two in at the same time I stick my fingers up there and I grab around clearance before I put one in I do I do a clearance chat oh okay

Because I cannot deal with that pain that that would bring me. Yeah. Well, she does not pain so much. Wide-set vagina. So, you know what? Not appropriate. No. And no one.

That's where I draw the line. Thank you, Fran. How dare she? Yeah. My uterus is tilted, though. So my tampons go in sideways. Like, you know how like on the. like on the map.

Here's my question, though. It's like your, here's my question, Kelty. On the map, it's like this. Your tampon's actually not going into your uterus. No, I know. No, no, no, but it's the canal. The canal, like most people's canal goes, and mine goes, I'm going to have to fact check you later on that.

That's the thing. Mine's like left, favorites to the left. That's what I had surgery once. That's what they said. I don't know if it's the canal or if it's the, actual uterus, but I know that something was being favored to the left. Clearly none of us have ever had children because we would know. Really impressive knowledge of the female body, guys.

Like the cervix or the fallopian tubes where the tampon goes. I'm not sure. I just learned what a follicle was. Did you know we have those on our ovaries? Like, where was our teachers? Where were our teachers? They need better sex. This is a whole other conversation, but they do. They do. For sure. Absolutely. All right. Back to the book. Anyway, so the book. So we had a bout of tempdija. And then we would just say things on the pocket. It's like, oh, we'll put it in our book. We'll put it in our book. And we had never really planned on writing a book. And then this rep, this woman named Andy, who had heard of us through like people reached out. And she was like, I think there's a book in you. And we're like, what? And instantly, I was like, there's many books, many volumes. Oh, God. I was like, Belle and Beauty and the Beast. I got on my ladder and I swung to. the library. I was like, all the stories I can tell. And then Jack was like, oh, my God, she's always been a writer. And then we had a conversation. And then you made Becca agree to it.

Yes. It was three people. You can... Destiny's child, you know? Honestly, it would have been a bigger pain in the ass to like agree to have a child for someone else. Like, I would have already been done with it. It would be over by now. You know what I mean? Like... Two pregnancies so far. It's been like two pregnancies. It's been like two pregnancies and it's been more emotional, more physically draining. Yeah, so it's been a ride. Now, what is emotional and physically draining about it? I'm sure there are many things, but. Yeah. Well, Kelty's manic energy surrounding the entire book process was the most draining part of it. Her manic energy surrounding everything is really good. We'll be on a group text. We haven't seen each other in

months. We'll be on a group text and Jack and I will be like, we can feel the mania. Like it's coming through. Your energy is so palpable. You guys will feel it by the end of this podcast across the country. Like, yeah, I love it. It's incredible. It really has served us only in the best way it's possible until this book.

I mean, I'm not going to say that I didn't make a instantly go to Staples and buy a cork board and like gold stars and make like recipe cards of like every chapter we're going to write. And then when as people turn them in, I like put. a gold star next to their name because I'm a loser. It was a lot. It was a lot. And also, I've never thought about being a teacher. Sorry. My mom's a teacher.

That's why. No. She hates kids. So no. She can't pay attention to other people. True. I mean, here's the thing. And I think that's why the book writing process and the book is so special is that, you know,

even though the three of us maybe, you know, are similar in some ways, like we are so different. And so you get all this advice and all these stories from all of our perspectives. And my essays are so me and so pathetic and like ridiculous and like anal. And then there's like Jack's essays that like, then I was on a warp tour. And she's like just like free spirit. Like yeah, man. And when Becca's like here's what happened. And like, you know, it's just, it's really cool.

I think that's what makes it really special actually. So it all worked out in the end. One of the coolest parts about writing the book, so we have like the, we have our own essays and then we have a lady gang voice where it's just like our consensual is not the right word. Collective. It was consensual though. Except for me. It was two threads consensual.

No, our collective like advice and opinions about things. But the way that we wrote that is the three of us just sat like we were going to record a podcast and Kelty would be like, okay, breakups. Let's talk about it. And then we'd talk about it and then kind of like, flush it out. Nope. Flush it out. Yes. From there where it was, it started. This is like so hilarious that the struggle with the word finding is so good that we're promoting a book. I do it all the time. I literally can't think. Anyways, we started like a podcast and then it became a book is where I was getting on that. But it's kind of like the three of us are so different.

but if you think about like a group of friends who have been friends for a really long time and they've spent a lot of time together it's like within that friendship group you kind of create this like internal bubble like governed under the same laws so you much a good way to see you may not follow the laws like some might struggle with others and that's why you have other girls to keep you in line like you know Kelty and I have a rule no matter what even if you're married you never text your significant other first so that's like the number one lady gang rule is you never text him first. Never text him first. I never abided by that rule. I personally think that's crazy. It is crazy. But yeah. But eagerness is a boner killer, ladies, okay? Yeah. So we have all these things.

And it's like we've created this whole society of the lady gang. And even though we're not all exactly the same, we're governed by the same laws. Yes. I'm kind of with you on on that one sometimes. But also it's a bad, I don't know, because I'm thinking like when we were in the real world. in life was moving normally when I would go to work. Yes, like when I'm living with my boyfriend and his home right now, when we were not doing that and would actually text each other, he would always send me like the, hey, like, good morning, text message. And like on the days, it literally has maybe happened a handful of times where he has not.

And I've had to wait to like in the middle of the afternoon. and I'm like, did something happen? I'm not texting you first. Are you okay? Yeah. And one time you was like, I just wanted to see how long it would take for you to text me first. My husband used to pull that shit too. Yeah.

And I was like, you know what? That's your job. You've been doing it and now it's become your job. So what do you want for me? And that's why you're currently living together right now. Hey, girl. Have that texting issue because I work with my boyfriend and I live with my boyfriend. So it's like, we're not going to.

to text each other because, like sometimes we do, but see, everyone has that like, ugh feeling. But when I tell you, like, it's completely fine. But I understand that is like a very small percentage of people. It's usually not the case. It's usually not the case at all. So I feel very blessed that it is the case that like we still are like obsessed with each other, but we see each other all day long. But look at Dr. Phil and his wife. You know what I mean? She's been to every taping of the Dr. Phil. Okay, but are the rumors that Dr. Phil is cheated on his wife? I mean, I wasn't going to bring that up at this moment.

But where does he find time to cheat on her? Exactly. She's constantly around. She's constantly around. True. There'll be rumors about any famous person cheating, so it doesn't shock me. There's rumors about Dr. Phil cheating. True.

Who's making rumors about Dr. Well, and anybody, also, like, any guy that has a show named Dr. Phil, who's actually not a medical doctor is a cheater in itself. Yeah, he's a life is a cheater. He's just a cheater. Isn't the same thing with Dr. Oz? Isn't he not a doctor either? No, he's a doctor.

He's a doctor. I have a quick question that I just, I want to just bring up because I don't want to forget before the end of this podcast, can we talk about Joe Jonas's, Joe Jonas's, Joe Jonas's body shape? That's all. We've talked about Joe Jonas as well, we can talk about it now. Fran brought it up this morning. So, Fran, go ahead.

Okay. Wait, is this a new thing? This is a new paparazzi photo. I will preface this by saying, everyone, you guys, and the three of you are well aware of my love for the Jonas Brothers. Yes. And this picture came out and whatever, is Joe and Sophie, everybody freaked out because Sophie's clearly pregnant. And my friends sent it back and forth. And immediately, I didn't even think, like, I was so focused on Sophie.

And then my friend was like, I really love that Joe is jumping on the sympathy pregnancy, pregnancy weight situation. Oh, no. But he, I think because, I'll say this, I think because of the height situation between the two of them, like because they're evenly matched, it makes him look frumpier than All of those Jonas boys are squatty. They're all thick thighs and they're all squatty. And let me tell you, I love big thighs.

See, I hate a big thigh. She does. Needy legs. I do. No, all my girlfriends have had huge size. There's a difference, though. They have thick thighs, but they also have hips. Men with hips.

That's a whole other world. So are we saying is, is we talking about this, the pop rarity shot when he's in a red shirt? Yes. It's not even the weight or whatever. It's the, from the belt to the knee, this is my least favorite body type on a man. And I've seen that before. There's just something about it. It's like, they look like ladies.

That's what I look like in a skinny gym. Ria, is that literally Joe? Like, I know that's Joe Jonas, but my boyfriend's name is also Joe. And, like, that is Joe with my boyfriend. Joe. Does he have a thinner calf and like a thin. The cap is too thin. It goes down to triangle.

He's an athlete. He was an athlete and he is like, he has big thighs, but the rest, like, he's got a bigger upper body. He's strong. That's how my boyfriend is. He's very dense and, like, stocky and sturdy. And he's got a big ass, so that's. That was one of the first things I've also had this conversation. Yeah.

I'm looking at your boyfriend. I notice a male's butt. I do. I like a butt, too. went to the first picture of you standing with a guy on Instagram. And it's Ron Weasley. Yeah. And I was like, oh, oh.

Jack knows how I feel. I read the book. I read the book. I know what you wrote about Ron in there. No. Your boyfriend has a different body type. It's more athletic. Oh, see that.

But he's tall. He's cute. See his leg to calf, his thigh to calf ratio is correct. This is the, who has a big thigh. Joe Jonas is, Joe Jonas is like 5, 6. He's very small. And yeah, right.

My boyfriend is like 6'1. So that's exactly. Also, the problem, the problem with this. Thanks, Kelsey. The problem with this photo is the type of a gene as well. It's just not. Right. Lightwash is never.

Listen, you guys. Lightwash is forgiving on men. It's just. Like wash is tough. I hate men in a light gene. No, it's just a short person problem. Short people don't look good in all clothing. You have to be very specific, which is why when we have a photo shoot and Jack, the 5-9 person,

is the one that's the pickiest about what she's willing to put on her body. She goes through, she leaves us the scraps to choose from. And I'm like, do you know what it's like being a troll? Five foot three. I am Joe Jonas, okay? Put me in the wrong gene and every, and the world will die. I'm with you, Becca, 100%. I don't wear skinny jeans anymore.

I'm actually very, very against the skinny gene. That is why I have turned to baggy jeans, baggy pants with small tops. I am all about that move. Kelty, shaking her head. I don't care. No, no, no. No, I'm about that. I'm shaking it being like, shaking it.

Oh, shaking it. Yes, girl. Yes, girl. I thought the movement from side to side. I said, no, but whatever. The skinny, the skinny gene, it just, it looks back. on some people and I'm one of those people. If I see a photograph of myself and a skinny gene,

I think I'll look very weird. So I'm sorry, Joe Jonas. I'm not a fan of a skinny gene on most people, unless it's like a supermodel. It's a very hard look for anybody to pull off. It's tough. Anybody over 30 and anyone under 510. There you go. Very specific, but accurate.

So Gigi had neat and that's right. Kygaherber. Yeah. Checks out. Checks out. What? Each of you, what was your favorite topic to write about in this book? Myself.

I think that the collective topics about, like, our rules and how to operate as a lady, just in general, like my favorite thing that we could ever put in writing was like, your wedding day is the most important day to you and no one else. So stop pretending like everyone else needs. to care as much about your wedding. Just like stuff like that where through the years of all these crazy friendships, like enough is enough. Like we were finally able to be like, you're an asshole.

If you celebrate a birthday month or a birthday week, you're an asshole. Like having permission to put that in writing and like say that's the law. Very controversial opinions. It feels incredible. That definitely is a great feeling to feel like I do think your opinions are validated, but to actually be like, this is going in a book, so that means this shit is real. Can't take it back. It's all good.

No, and on top of those, we, so the last section in our book is about friends. So we got to talk a lot about adult friendships because that's such a hard thing for a lot of women to go through that we don't really talk about. There's so much loneliness as you get older. So it's like how to put your friends in the right lanes where you're not going to really rely on your like happy hour party friend. to pick you up from the airport or to cry on their shoulder. And it's like kind of putting everybody in their right lanes and being able to find good people in your adulthood. And like setting the right expectations for those people.

Like you don't have to write people off because they aren't like your right or die friends. But like just knowing who that girl is and what she's good for and like being okay with that. Definitely. I really enjoyed and I've recently gone through some photos to find some backdrop. I've had a lot of jobs in my life. and one of my, we have a chapter about work. And so I was talking about we, I think we each did an essay on our first jobs and how we kind of

like started working. Shitty jobs we hated. Yeah, shitty jobs we hated. And mine was being a chicken bone breaker at like a chicken place because you have to break the thigh before you put. Let me tell you, that was pretty a graphic chapter. Like all the things you guys, all the things you guys talked about in the book when it comes to like your body and life and everything.

And like the only time that I was like, oh, was Kelty discussing how she was picking feathers out of chickens. I was like, wow. You know what I'm having for lunch? Chicken sandwich. Yeah. He's like, oh, shit. Look what I recently unearthed. Here's when I was a...

I don't know how you prepared these photos for this. No, I just had them sitting here because I want to give them to our social team. Look at this. That's me when I was a magician's assistant. Are you in the end? Oh, yeah. Which one is you? Are you like a hard hat?

Are you wearing a hard hat? That is just so much. Is that your face? It doesn't look like you. It doesn't look like you. Oh, it looks like you have one of those plastic masks on that have all the makeup on the mask already. Yes. Just like Pamela Anderson.

Yeah. That's what a spooky I can do for you. Yeah, he made a, he made an air. Oh, no, this is for the slice. Didn't you have sex with that magician? Sure. Or was it a different magician? Look at what's on the hat.

It's the slicer. Wait. Oh, the slicer, like, for the cutting in half box. When the woman cuts in half. Yeah. So that was one of my favorite parts because I think everyone's like, how do I become you? And I was like, not, well, not me particularly, but we got a lot of messages. I'm sure you guys do too.

Like, I want to have a podcast. I want to do my own thing. How did you start? I'm like, I started breaking chicken bones at the next fire. You're not fucking musician or magicians. She fucked magicians and musicians. She fucked magicians and musicians. Yep.

Yep. The book, I really loved reading all of it. I thought it was hilarious. And I also thought like all the illustrations and stuff are really cool. It's almost like Kelty put like a little workbook inside the book, which is super fun. Did you do it? Did you manifest? I feel like it's something I have to save that for maybe the end of the year.

Or like, until three more months of quarantine. Yeah. Yeah. Like I need this to end and like real life to go back to real life when I can actually think of like doing real things in my life besides being in my home and being in a house. Wait, I also really love, and you guys have always been super open about this. But you guys have always been pretty open about Hollywood and how like if you think that a celebrity has gotten work done, she probably has.

and people aren't very open about it. They don't like to talk about it. And you guys did like full illustrations of like everything you've done to your faces. Yes. And first of all, the illustrations are beautiful. Like you, like, your faces are stunning in these drawings. Art, our artists. We gave the best pictures that we could possibly find of us.

And then we had an amazing illustrator. Yes. Bropo to the illustrator because Ria and I have had like, drawings of us done at work. Either we did a plane, like, Barstle did a playing card. I got to find this shit. We've had murals, like they drew murals up on the wall in our new office. And I mean, they were really bad. Like, really bad. It's easy to mess up. They'll always pick the one thing that you're, like, insecure about in your face and then just make it, like, you have, like, the biggest nose in the world or whatever. Yeah. My nose is huge in this thing.

I really, really, you guys. have always been open about that. I love that. And great illustrations. Really good stuff. Ria, are you finding, can you find that? Yeah, I have this picture. It's kind of like a slanted view, but you can zoom in on it. Also, I have a question. I think I have a screen on it also. So since you guys have been talking about like the work you've had done, I've never had any work done, but something I'm thinking about all. And I'm, I'm still pretty young, so I don't do it. Guys, Ria is not, Ria is 22. No, Ria, I have, I have, remember I have messaged you being like you better not fucking touch your face. I will never touch

like my lips or anything like that. But I have the worst under eye bags. Like I've concealer on right now so you can't really see it. But like they're really terrible. And I think about it all the time. I'm like, should I just get that under eye filler? But then I think about how I think it's just my jeans. And I don't think that's going to like fill the gap. I think it's just because I'm Italian. And it also might be the shape of your face. Like some faces can't do it because then you end up. having like the teeny eyes. Oh my God. Are you Vana White?

That does not even look like you guys. That is so shocking. You guys are like 45 year old women that work at the office. Oh, you guys. That's up, that's up in our office as a giant mural. Oh, no. We'll give you our illustrator's name. It's Wesley, right?

Wesley Bird. Wesley Bird and she can come and fix that shit right up. Yeah, yeah, just sticking on top of there whenever you go back to yonder. She's amazing. Yeah. But we, I do you want me to tell you about the under eye because I had it done? I would love to hear about it. It can go bad real fast.

Yeah. I had a black eye for six weeks. Yeah. Straight six weeks. So the truth is that I think that it's like mostly discoloration that probably bothers you more than like the bags. Like if that, you know, and they can't do anything about the discoloration. So if you think about it, if you fill it, it's still going to be gray like that. Yeah.

One time I asked Dr. Diamond about it and that's what he told me. He's like, I can fill it for sure. But you're still going to have the thing. That's what gives people a filler face. Yeah, I think that's why I should not do it, because that's the thing I was worried about was the fact that it wouldn't be able to fix it. And it's just the fact that I'm Italian and have those jeans. So that answers my question.

So it like a Kardashian West bake set, like she has a concealer bake and then Brighton, boom. But listen. Yeah. I never bought like a Kardashian makeup product. So I think maybe maybe that could be my first one. It's time. I mean, once you hit 30, it's going to be, there's going to be so much shit to fix on your face. So like, really enjoy it now.

Like, no one is, no one is going to be exempt from that rule. Like, I've never looked at anybody who's hit 30 and been like, you know what? You're perfect. Don't change. So right now, enjoy it. You're perfect. You're perfect. You'll just start to see things droop.

Totally. But stay out of the sun. Like, that's number one. See, I, you, no, she's Italian. I think she's fine. She's fine. Yeah. I like to, I like to be out there.

I like to get the sun. Soak it up, babe. Soak it up. Yeah. Yeah. She can probably make that work. Yeah. You know what, guys, thanks.

You've made me feel a lot better. I will refrain from getting the under eye filler at 22 years old. Thank God. We needed your expertise because I've told her a billion times, but my opinion. Well, I started getting those. at 24. 23 for me. Yeah.

Okay. So I'm, I'm not at 8. Botox is very different. No, Botox is different than filler. Botox doesn't change anything on your face. It literally just freezes muscles so you can't make certain expressions that create wrinkles. So like filler, when you go into that territory, it gets real scary. Yeah, that's a slippery slope.

And also, Botox, it's like it depends on your face shape too. Like one of my girlfriends is 34. and she just doesn't get wrinkles on her forehead. Yeah. So it just depends. That's cool. That's cool for her. That's cool for her.

It would be nice. Happy for your life. You guys are all such beautiful special snowflakes. You know what? That really felt good and I think you were a beautiful special snowflake as well. There's a reason that you didn't recognize me in my magic costume because that's a different face. Pamela Anderson.

This is what I looked like when I was poor. I got a job and I started injecting myself and now I look like when I met you. And now she looks like Stephen Tyler. Yeah. I was just speaking of people Kelty looks like to like bring this all around. Unfortunately, we're going to have to end soon because we have an interview at 530. But I want to talk about this before we wrap up. The last time you guys came to the office and we interviewed guys who had a blast and we put up

a picture on Instagram and there was like one comment from a troll obviously. No, no. No, there were so many comments. Multiple. There were dozens. I mean, when I saw that that, that ended up in the book, I was like, there's just one line about like, and then you have shit days, like when Kelsey was called Stephen Tyler,

I was like, oh, no. But you guys need to understand. You have to understand, and you put it on your TV show too, which thank you. But you have to understand that the people who follow, bar stool. Like, we have chicks in the office listeners who are not also, you know, they just file chicks in the office, but there's also people who file chicks in the office and barstool. The way these people comment about things is so different than, I mean, not so different.

The internet sucks altogether, but they just like to go a little bit further sometimes. So as soon as I saw that, I was like, no, no, but I appreciate that you guys were laughing. You know what? I'm just going to, I'll button this by saying that months later, years later, we were New York for our little book party, which you came to. You were sick. And, um, and we, I was, I had wavy hair and I was in a red dress and I took a picture with like the big poster cover of our, our book. And I was like feeling really beautiful. And I posted onto my personal Instagram, which doesn't have the barstool or the whatever, like, trolls. It has the people who have like clicked, I want to follow this woman. And someone wrote, ooh, your hair like that really leans into the Steven Tyler thing.

So it's not just your fans. It's everyone. Stephen Tyler is a beautiful man. I was going to say Stephen Tyler looks fucking great. He looks good. And if you, Kelty, I know that you're in on TikTok and the TikTok trends, they say, you know, you look like the people you share birthday with. I share birthday with Stephen Tyler. So maybe I also look like Stephen Tyler. Who knows what's going to happen in your 30s? You know what I mean with those under eyebags? The world is your oyster. Right into Stephen Tyler when she's a magician's assistant. So anything can change. True. Oh man, guys, thank you so much for coming and talking to us, and we're excited for everybody to get act like a lady. It's on sale June 2nd.

I have my pre-ordered, so I'm excited to get in the mail. Because, you know, the one I got doesn't have any color. I'm going to say, are you lying because you have one next to you? No, no, I mean, this is the one that I got at the book party, and the illustrations aren't colored, and I want them color. You can share them. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. So, and everyone can pre-order them right now, right, like, available wherever books are sold, as they say. Perfect. Thanks, guys. Thanks for having us. Thank you guys. Thanks.

Stay healthy. You too. Hopefully we see you guys in person soon. Yes, please. Bye, guys. Bye, guys. Bye. Stephen out. All right.

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