Chicks in the Office - Hozier Interview, Raquel Speaks Out + Weekly Watch Report

Episode Date: August 18, 2023

Subscribe to our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE. Weekend previews (00:00-19:12). Britney Spears’ husband Sam Asghari files for divorce (20:39-26:53). Raquel Leviss speaks out for first time (26:54-39:14). Both Miley Cyrus & Selena Gomez announce new music (39:15-42:53). Weekly Watch Report (44:31-1:04:38). Interview with Hozier – talking his new album, going on tour + more! (1:07:07-1:44:28). MERCH! > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This is state of emergency. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne, giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. Hopefully everyone had an amazing week.

I think we did. I think we're ready for the weekend. We had a good day today. We are bleaching Noah's hair very soon. hours, that'll be a live stream. If you missed it, you can go back on the YouTube and watch. It should be up there. We don't, we're talking in the future. We don't know how it turned out. So go back and watch on YouTube. Could be great, could be terrible. Who knows? You'll all know because it'll be Friday and it'll be bleached.

I'm telling people where they're like, like, what are you, are you nervous? I'm like, I just want it to look not terrible. It won't. It doesn't look good. It won't look terrible. It just doesn't. It's not. My cousin is a professional. She'll make it the best. It won't be her. I would not. Yeah, exactly. And also like, I, I, I, applaud us for going the extra mile and asking your cousin to help us because we could have said we are just going to do this ourselves. The original idea was that I was going to do it. I don't think I would have filled out that. Well, if you agreed to it, you wouldn't have had a choice, would you? You wouldn't have. You're going to let down all of our 150,000 subscribers. No, no, I would

have had my person do it. Okay. Well, it's going to be, it's going to be interesting. Very interesting. Very interested. Very excited. I'm excited. How you doing? Great. Good. Good. Yeah. It's a long week. Busy, but like good busy. I felt like we had a lot going on. But we're getting shit done, you know? Yeah, I agree. A couple boss ladies.

Yeah, we are. Hell yes. Yeah. Sister. Are you doing anything fun this weekend? Oh, am I? Yes, I have my friend's bridal shower. And then my block is having a block party for the first time in maybe 15,000.

years. I love block parties. Oh my god, I've been to a block party in forever. Me either. They literally disappeared. But my block is doing one. They're bringing it back? They're doing one this Saturday. Oh my God. My neighborhood, we used to have block parties. All the time. They're the best. I said, listen, as long as there somebody doing face paint, I'm there. Yeah. I do have a bridal shower first, and then I'll be attending after. Will there be a moon bounce? I don't know anything about this cotton candy. Friend, I know nothing about the block party. I have not been involved in the I have, that's super unfortunate

because I have so many questions. I feel like it's gonna be pretty lame. About the block party. If I had to make a guess, it's gonna be lame. We don't know any of our neighbors anymore. Like we have our OG neighbors. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there have just been, who are still there, but then we have a whole influx of new neighbors that we don't really care about. In my opinion, I mean, I mean, I mean, there's tons of new little kids. Yeah.

They look cute, but, you know, we don't. Keep your distance. Yeah, we don't know them, right? I mean, what? No, no, I know. Yeah. Maybe you just seem like a freak when you said keep your distance. No, no, no.

I'm laughing. It's like it's when you're a family and your neighbors are all like kids around your own age, you obviously want to mesh and meet and hang out and make new friends. But when it's like even if your neighbor, it can be directly across the street, if you're like, we don't have anything in kind of with them. Well, now my sister's having a baby. So like maybe she'll want to make new friends at the block with other people that are having babies. Who knows?

You know, the family tree grows on. Possibilities are endless for the block party. They are, who knows? Black Party of the century. Maybe there'll be a nice sprinkler, you know, kids running through a sprinkler. Right. I used to love that. I used to do that.

You know, we didn't have a pool or anything, so we had to run through a sprinkler. Oh, man. What was the one that there was always the commercials for? Super Soaker. No, not a super stoker, but it was like a certain kind of sprinkler. And, like, they were, like, they would, they waved, like, the car wash things. But you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sprinklers were sick. Like, Mom, mom, can we run outside? Can we play in the sprinkler today outside? Yeah, it was like, they made it so it was like a snake so, like you couldn't, like, catch it would go wild kind of thing. And you would, like, slip and slide on the grass. You have good slip inside. You have grass all over you. I had a great backyard for a slip and slide.

I bet. A slight slope. Oh, that is a good. You need a little, a little bit of a slope for a slide. Good for that and for sledding. But dangerous. towards the bottom. Probably. A lot of trees, so sometimes, you know. Oh. Yeah. Okay. If you want, you just have to stop yourself. So you have acres of land? No. No.

Do not have acres of land. But if you went too far, you are going into the fence. I mean, the end of the backyard. But wild block party, that just made me feel just was a burst of life into me. Yeah. So, it just made me excited about when we like have bought parties with our own. kids. I know. That'll be cute. Let's make sure the blog party never dies, you know? Right. Let's make block parties live on forever. Yeah. I feel like I don't see so many block parties these days.

I just really hope it's not fucking lame. Granted, I live in Manhattan, so I'm not around a lot of block parties. Trust me, when I got the notice, when my family passed on to me that we were having a black party, I was shocked. Yeah. I almost fell over. Yeah. I was like, a blog party. What are you talking about? They showed me the flyer. I love it. I was like, what are you talking about

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maybe not last Friday, Friday before. We were talking about embarrassing stories, right? That you finally get off your chest and you never tell anybody. And I said I had one that I refused to tell anybody

and I ended up telling it basically that night, I think, or a couple nights after. Which you then must have forgotten about because you just, I forgot about it. Told me now that you told that you told, that you, released the story.

Yes. So I'll tell it. You're ready to tell it. I am ready to tell it. And here's the thing, though. How bad is it to my, to my bugger story? It's worse, but not as, it's not as bad because nobody noticed. Okay. But I noticed. See, that's the thing. Now here is my problem. I am now unveiling a story that could have me get made fun of, could open up to the people if they listen to the show start to make fun of me. And I want some people to sign on to the fact that they won't relate to relay the story to their significant others, not our listeners, but if you are a friend of mine, a girl, do not relay the story to your significant other. I got you. Okay. You want, you're okay with our listeners knowing, but you don't want anybody in your actual circle of friends

knowing. No, because, because it would ruin me. I almost wish you didn't put that disclaimer because now people are, you know, they're going to find out somehow. Now I don't want to tell it. No, they won't find out. No, I don't want to find out. They won't find out. Anyways, a long story short. Everybody, hey, everybody, keep a secret. Long story short. Keep a secret. You remember Easter

where we went to go visit our friends? And it was like a group of people. Yes. In Maryland. Yes. And we went out. Okay. We were all drunk. We came back. We ordered food. We ordered Taco Bell. A couple of us were sitting at the table eating and one slid out from me. That's the story. That's extremely loud.

Oh, my God. That's not that embarrassing. People fart in front of other people often. But nobody said anything. Okay. Okay. And so I have lived with this. All right.

Like the thing is it happened and nobody said anything. Nobody was like, like, oh, you know, like guys like blame on each other or whatever. Literally nobody said a word. okay they must have thought it was a chair whatever and I have lived with this thinking thinking that Matt knew and covered up for me and just didn't say anything so like I just have not brought it up thinking he'd be like oh yeah I knew that I heard I heard about your big fart because yeah yeah he's like I thought that he was everyone's been talking about how did back yeah like I thought he was going to be like yeah I did hear it I didn't say anything I didn't

want to embarrass you yeah so that's why it's been embarrassing for me because I thought that he knew and covered up for me. And so I've lived with this. I've never done that ever in front of anybody, okay? And so, yes, it may not be embarrassing for everybody else. I was going to say, there is no shame in this game.

And sometimes that just happens. Have I let one slide in front of him before? Yes, I told you the story. I was excited. I won a little money gambling. It came out. That's how we broke the ice. But this one in front of, you can't live on with that. You can't live on.

I, well, you know. Then the friends just start making fun of you every time you see them. And you're like, oh, remember. Oh, Miss, Miss Tudor. Whatever. I hate that word. So fucking much. Miss Tuts a lot.

Stop. See, now this is my fear. But let me tell you something. One of the wives are going to hear this or girlfriends and they're going to tell them and they're going to say, you know, Ria, she farted after. Just what? She farted. Like every human fart. I know.

That's what I'm saying. It's just normalized. It's not a crazy thing. Also, it's like, you know, sometimes. Sometimes with your friends, you just got a joke. And you say, if you fart in front of your friends, you're like, sorry, guys, that was me. I couldn't do it. So I.

Hand up, guys. That one was me. And then everybody laughed. And then you move on. I held that in for so long. And he was like, what? He was like, who cares? Exactly.

He was like, that's what you couldn't even get out of your mouth. I was like, because I thought. My bugger story was way worse than this. I know. And now that it's not, it's not that embarrassing. I get it. But you know, when you know, when you. live with something and you built it up way worse in your head.

And I've built it up into thinking like he, like I don't care if he knows. Trust me. I'm way past that stage at this point. I almost can't shut up about it. You know this. I don't know who I've become. But here we are again. Right.

I'm rambling about it. I'm rambling about it. I'm sorry. I'm rambling about it. Friday Farts. Fart Fridays. Ew. Party Fridays.

So I told my sister and her husband this. which I always say my sister and her husband is my brother-in-law. Yeah, yeah. You know, like sometimes I still get used to saying that. And they were like, and nobody ripped you apart for doing that. I was like, they didn't realize. It's like nobody said it was anybody.

And so I've lived with this since April. And then when I got it off my chest, I was like, this is nothing. You know, I think I'm just desensitized to it because of how gross my own family is. Just like my brother, my dad are just, they're just farders. They just are. And nothing makes my dad laugh more, truly. And I don't know if you've ever seen it happen,

but I have the same conversation with my mom constantly. I mean, they've been married for a long time, and my mom reacts the exact same way for 30-plus years. He will fart, you know, in the home. sometimes you never know but in and without fail my mom will go John

like that every single time and every single time my mom reacts like that it makes him laugh and I go mom maybe if you stop reacting every single time he wouldn't think he's so funny he puts a little act into it you know it's a show

it's a total show but every single time it's without fail immediate laughter imagine the next time I'm eating dinner with your family. I just want one absolutely. Everybody would laugh. And I raised my hand. I'm like, oh, sorry, it was me. Believe me, you would get a, uh, maybe a standing ovation. Everybody, everyone would be crying, laughing. Well, without a doubt. I like think it's the funniest thing. Now, I don't know what happened where I now find this stuff funny. Like, when we were having that

huge meeting where Dave was announcing that he was buying back barstool, yeah. Gia was like, what if somebody just farted right now? And I started cracking up and I was like, that is not something I would usually laugh at. But like now I think it's hilarious. You're in the other side. So anyways, the story that I thought was really embarrassing is not that embarrassing. But what's embarrassing now is me holding on to it for so long and making it a bigger deal than it is. And thinking about it for weeks.

It's not even like a story. It's just like, it's also. No, literally. It was like one time I farted. One time I farted in front of other people. End story. The worst part was there was like living with it. Also, this happened like around Easter.

So you've been thinking about this for months. I have. Because I don't think I've ever been in the situation where I have in front of a large group of people. Yeah, yeah. You know? In front of one person, two people, yes. But in front of a group of people, silence while everyone's eating has never happened before. And I couldn't even, I didn't even know where it came from it. I was like, whoa. I almost did one of those like I saw my life flashed before my eyes when it happened. Oh, man. Yeah. All right. Right.

Anyways. Yeah. I was going to tell another story, but I don't want to. It's not embarrassing. Okay. I'll save it for two weeks from now. Okay. Don't worry.

For another edition? No, no, yeah. Every two weeks? Another edition of Friday Farts? It doesn't have to do a farting or anything like that. I just, I'll tell it in, I'll tell it right before a Labor Day weekend. Okay. Got it.

Okay. We both went back to our, we both went back to our nails. Thank God. Thank God. I know. So I was really like not feeling well yesterday Which by the way I've been talking about like I've had this like lingering like headache Migraine for like a week and a half now. I don't know. I don't know what's going on but I got to hydrate more. I think I've just come to the glucus and maybe I'm dehydrated besides the point

I was feeling not definitely don't drink enough water. I don't and like so I go through phases where I really do where I'm drinking a ton and I'm in one of those phases where I haven't been and I think that's my problem besides the point anyways I had to hit my nail appointment though. I was like there's If there's one thing that's happening is I'm going to get my nails on. Like I can't, I can't not get my nails done. And then I fell asleep at 6 o'clock. That's how I knew I wasn't feeling great. Is that I took a nap at 6 p.m. What do you got on there?

Is that Kyoto Pearl? I don't read the, they just hand me a thing with numbers. Yeah. And so I never get to know the name. Oh. Was it OPI? Do you know? Yes, it was OPI.

But is there chrome on it or is just a polished? No chrome, just polished. That's definitely Kyoto Pearl. I love that one. that one often. I really like it a lot. It gives that pearly, chromy illusion, but without the chrome.

It might be my regular because it's just subtle, it's neutral. I'm not sick of it. I feel good about it. I don't want to immediately, well, you know, what's weird is I picked another color at first. That was similar to this one,

but it had more of a pinky corolly shade. She put one swipe on. I said, no. I've never done that in my life. I'm glad you start up for yourself in the moment. I said, I don't like this color. I said, need a change. Immediately take this off.

I'm like, I'm not going to do this again. I said I hated my color the last time. I have to tell you Anita, I hated it Yeah, I am, what did I do this time? I like yours, I'm similar like now. They are similar. I copied Lauren Elizabeth on Instagram. She always has great nails.

She's got good style. She does, and she's having a baby soon, so I actually just saw that she like cut her nails. She used to always have pretty long nails. But she has like a nails highlight on her Instagram. And I was like, I know she has a neutral nail that I remember seeing that I really love. So I went back. And it's one coat of S.E. waltz and one coat

of OPI put it in neutral and then the white's chrome I like it on top and it's a very pretty subtle neutral nail they're pretty like yeah they're super similar yours is like a little more cloudy which is nice too you know

mine's a little more like I guess neutral clear whatever you want to call it good for us getting our nails done yeah proud of us happy don't you feel pressure now like oh my god I feel like such a fucking relief I know but also, I just mean like, I don't know how you got such a nice ring on your hand, you know? It's like, how could I have bad nails?

That's why I hated the light blue. I felt like it didn't compliment the ring. Right, exactly. I know I have this other ring on. Right. And I'm like, oh, like, the light, like, you need to be, I'm like, I might just stick with this color forever. Totally. The light blue did not do it justice.

Yeah. All right. Should we get into the topics? Let's do it. I'm kind of talking like, hosier. Oh, I had one. I had one thing I wanted to pop in. say that it is topic adjacent

but we were going back and forth on Wednesday about topic adjacent. Topic adjacent Jason. Jason. Tint. Kiki Palmer and her boyfriend did break up. Yes, they came out literally on Thursday. Is an aspiring actor. Yes, they have split. Which is not shocking. You know, the music video is out. It's great.

Fantastic. Love Kiki Palmer. But I feel like we were speculating because there wasn't like official news of if they had split or not and then that news came on Thursday. So just wanted to make sure that everyone does know that, yes, that did happen and it is exactly what we thought. All right, great. All right, let's get into the topics. We're going to be talking about Britney Spears' divorce. Rakel was on Bethany's podcast. Selina Gomez is releasing new music as well as Myelis Cyrus and we have our weekly watch report. So let's get into the topics. Why don't we? Oh, we have a great interview with hosier. I love the hot like, sorry. Every time I say say with an accent.

No, no, but I like it. Hosea. It gives them, it's like a little fancy flare to it. I'm almost French. Hoseer. Oh, that reminds me. Is that something for the show? Of a movie I watched.

Yes. No, no, no. We did watch for it. I watched a movie. Was it French? Kind of, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Okay, great. Wee, yes. See? See. Okay. Wee. All right. Let's get into the topics.

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and that Dirty Sam we knew was a little rat and everyone was afraid to say it. Everyone was afraid to say, we're nervous about this guy because everyone wanted Britney Spears to be happy and nobody wanted to judge her for getting married even though she definitely shouldn't have. And look what has happened now. This guy is trying to fucking rattle her like a little piggy bank that she's kept in her bedroom for more money and it's disgusting. I loved everything you just did. You just hit every note very well. You picture one of those piggy banks?

Yeah, I can see you're shaking it. Shaking them dry. All the pennies are coming. I know. Look, I think Sam is already trying to sell this narrative that Brittany is, you know, hasn't been doing well and it's just been too much for him and blah, blah, blah. They also apparently had some big fight or DMZ had originally posted that. Sam thought Britney was cheating. Was stepping out?

Who is Britney cheating with? I know. And that they got like into a fight about it and now was like this whole big thing. Really? The big thing is here. What really is the only telling thing? Like, I don't care what ups and downs were happening in their relationship. But from the beginning, everyone thought, oh, like, make sure they have a pre-up,

make sure they have everything set up. And they do. But he is looking for more money because he says that he will reveal embarrassing stories, embarrassing facts about her if he doesn't get paid more. So he said... Fucking scum. Let's his nickname him. Not piggy bank because...

No. Because that would be her. I can't. My brain's gone blank. Sam. Sam. Asgari. Shitty Sam.

Slimy Sam. Slimy Sam. Yeah, Slimy Sam's trying to rattle her for more money. Slimy Sam is. Oh, I'm going to release embarrassing story. Don't you think she's been through enough, Slimy Sam? I know. Don't you think enough?

stories have hit the news outlets of her, Slimy Sam, and you know what's really telling, or not that much, but it was interesting. Jamie Lynn Spears liked the people post about them getting a divorce. I know. I just... Slena Gomez went to their wedding.

I just, I mean, so many... I just hope that... She gave up her time to go to this wedding. It's useless. So many of Pereselt and Drew Barrymore. I just hope that so many... I just hope that Britney has people. You know?

Like, that's like always my biggest... She does. That's what makes me so sad. It's like who is there to help her? Literally so many people would help her. All of us would help Brittany. And yet she can't find somebody genuine in her life. I know.

She did hire Laura Wasser though. She did. Who is, let me tell you, the creme de la creme of Hollywood divorce lawyers. If you want the best of the best, the best in the biz, she is the best. There's something that tickles my spine a little bit when you pronounce a word or say something like that. Crem de la creme? Yeah, it's like, mm. friend.

Yeah. Brittany has hired her and her team. Page six, page six, page, just lost that

completely. You got it. After my beautiful crem to la crem moment and I just crumbled. You got all stage fright. Page six. An insider

with knowledge of the situation confirmed this Wednesday that the pop star hired the powerhouse attorney as her split from. Sam is likely to turn into a nasty battle inside the courtroom.

He is allegedly trying to change the terms of the pre-up, the insider alleges that he is attempting to negotiate concessions beyond his pre-up and threatening to go public with extraordinarily embarrassing information about Brittany unless he gets paid. So he's blackmailing her. That's what we like to call blackmail, slimy Sam. Yeah.

Kevin Federer, when she went through the divorce with Kevin Federline, she also hired Laura Wasser, apparently. Well, Laura knows what she's doing. She does. She absolutely does. So, you know, I'm just very much hoping. Hoping. Hoping. Hoping.

You're nailing it today. Just crushing it. What was the name in the hosier interview that you butchered? Oh, my God. That's not her fault. Look at how that name is spelled. And you take a crack at it. What's his name?

Donald Gleason. Now, now. I'm going to get it right. Donald Gleason. But look at that, the spelling of that person. Yeah, Mr. I'm going to pronouncing not Noah. American physician Donald Gleason came up. No.

Actor. How do you spell it? It's definitely not that. G-L-E-S-O-N is his last name. G-L-E-G-L-E-A. Just search Gleason about time. Oh, Dom-Hon. Oh, Dom-N-L.

Thank you. There you go. Dom-N-L. Yeah. As our good friend, Andrew, told us in the interview, it's Gaelic. So I... The Ems are not pronounced. Yeah.

Wasn't, you know, I can't say I'm well-versed in Gaelic pronunciation. Anyway, I just, you know, get this guy out of here. Duh. Get Britney. I just like, free Britney. Just want, like, does Brittany have friends? You know? I don't think Brittany knows who and who not to let into her life anymore.

Right, that's what I'm saying. I think she's making mistakes. Friends that aren't beyond like surface level or like other celebrity friends, like people she can really trust. I don't think so. Moving on. It's tough. It's tough.

It is. It's sad. You know, I don't like it. I don't like it. And this guy, what a slime ball. Sleeze. Fucking tough. Saw it coming.

ignoring that. He already made that joke on Instagram, so not knowing his hard. And not only did he make it on Instagram, he texted us the joke to yeah. He's hit every angle to tell this joke. Yeah, he has. But sometimes you have to do when you're a comedian. Raquel was on Bethany's podcast, her first interview since the scandal broke. And now I'm not very much on board with calling her Rachel because it doesn't feel natural to me because we've been calling her Raquel for so long.

Right. And I genuinely did not. think it was so funny when people were like, okay, Rachel, I was like, all right, low brow insult. Yeah. Not really like, all right, what are you doing here? But now she's taking back the name Rachel for herself. I find it to be very confusing. It just feels natural to call her Raquel. That's what we called her.

Now, she went on Bethany Frankl's podcast where Bethany Frankel is, you know, leading this campaign in reality TV that it's bad for you. It's bad for people. Everything's contrived. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And people are manipulated while Bethany is using. Raquel for clicks for her podcast, which anybody would do, right? If we had the chance to sit down with Raquel, would we do it?

Yes. But we're not riding on the message of like reality reckoning and Bravo's exploiting their stars. Yeah. And she was exploiting Raquel on this podcast. I have. But I still would, you know, anybody would take the interview. No. But Bethany's a hypocrite.

Absolutely. I just find Bethany being the one. to do this hypocritical in that sense. Also, I get why, you know, it's like we're reliving the whole Howie Mandel thing over again, right? Like, it's like, Sandoval did that knowing it was going to be a softball.

Her team set this up because they know Bethany was going to take it easy on her. And not that anybody needs to be going at her at this point in time. But I think that there is an in-between zone and she, I will say from listening to her, it did feel like she has done a lot of work on herself, for sure. She seemed a lot more confident in the things that she was saying.

I did feel like there was definitely some excuses still flying around. Obviously, those are her truths and whatever she wants to say. But I just felt that Bethany really gave her every opportunity. to be like, oh, well, that wasn't really how that happened. And you weren't really friends with her, right? So who really cares? And just for her to, for Raquel to be like, yeah, you're right. Like, you know, kind of not, not that there needed to be like pushback or anything

like that, but I felt like she could have had this conversation with maybe like more of a mental health podcast, or I don't know, something where she could talk about her headspace and her actions. and how she's learned from them and how she's growing from it without necessarily this heavy Bethany reality TV is so evil because Bethany has now been profiting

off of speaking about reality TV so much I saw, you know, people were commenting and Kyle from Summerhouse commented too that like he's like, I've never heard so many ads in a podcast. Like she had so many, like a ton of ads playing in her episode. She's making money off of this, of course. as anybody would.

But she has also been very, digging very deep into like Bravo is exploiting their reality stars and they're not making money and they're not making enough money and reality stars should also be going on strike. While also she profits off of these shows. She does episodes talking about these episodes. She started a whole Housewives rewatch podcast. So it's like she's making.

money off of the shows on Bravo. I don't know. It's just like everything Bethany's been doing has been irritating me. Now, I think that this sort of conversation with Raquel is a conversation that needed to be handled with care. And I felt like she maybe had gone a little backwards in this conversation because like you said, it sounded like she had worked on herself. She even said she was thankful that her family, you know, was able to extend this day from 60 to 90 days. After 60 days, she'd not feel like she was ready to leave. She realized a lot of things about why she was acting the way

she was acting, why she was looking for men who are unavailable. She has intimacy problems. She didn't work through her past relationship. And there were reasons why she was doing these bad things. And now when you have this conversation with Bethany, you hear Bethany going, I was watching and I just didn't see what

was so bad about people who take place drinking in a bar. What's so bad? It's about affairs. And it's like, all right, now you were feeding Raquel with something new that she probably was not hearing in this facility while working on herself. The people in the facility were not saying to Raquel, who cares? You were in a bar drinking as your TV show where it's all about affairs.

It's totally fine. Who cares about this? That's not what she was hearing. She was hearing things to help herself. And I feel like this sort of conversation is something that would make Raquel regress back into thinking, you know what? Maybe you are right, Bethany. What did I do exactly wrong?

You know? So I just felt like this sort of conversation with Raquel is something that needed to be handled with care and I felt like it was handled with somebody who is just trying to profit off of bashing things that are happening on reality TV and not actually caring about what is happening. She's never seen Vanderpump rules. She didn't know anything about the dynamics of the character. I don't know anything about this show. I don't know anything about it.

She's like, Raquel's like, you know, we weren't, which to an extent do I believe that maybe Raquel and Ariana were show friends and maybe not the best of friends off screen? Yes, but also at the same time she sat in the room with us and told us she knows who her real friends are, and Ariana is one of them. And so, yeah, you could be playing that up for the reality show aspect. There's different layers to it. I just felt like this was not the place for Raquel to do this interview, although, of course, her team would think so because Bethany's never seen it.

So how is she supposed to ask her the right questions? Totally. She's just going at it from a reality TV is bad. And yes, there are points of reality TV that are not good for somebody who's on reality TV. But I think, you know, Raquel has realized it's not the place for her. at this point going forward. Yeah, she's not going back. And it's been reported that she made about $350,000 last season.

And she said that she's severely underpaid. She gets paid as much as Bethany's interns, which I guess Bethany's interns make a lot of money because that's a ton of money. So I guess Bethany pays really well unless she gave different numbers. I'm not sure. I don't know. That's why I felt like these were two separate conversations

happening in one episode, if that makes sense. like in one conversation. I felt like Bethany's conversation about reality TV and Bravo if they want to have that money conversation and they're not being paid enough or you know, they're,

you know, Raquel talking about being in debt, like things like that. Like that, like that I think is a separate conversation than what happened with Raquel and how she has handled that and grown from that and moving on from that.

Like combining the two things is where I think Raquel's team could have led her in a better direction of going on a different show. I totally agree. I just really, I find that this wasn't the conversation that we needed to have of her now basically being like, I did something terrible and Bravo is laughing to the bank about it. And I don't see that money. It's like, okay, that's, we can discuss that. But let's not have all of that happen in the same time as this is the first. interview I'm doing since this happened. Right. I think there could have been a separate conversation, like you said, a different podcast where it really focuses on mental health or something in that

capacity where Raquel could dive deep into what she's learned at this facility. And I think people could relate to it. And I think people could learn from it. And I think although she made a terrible, terrible, terrible mistake, I think people can sympathize with the fact that nobody needs to be like going after her life anymore. I think that she's like gotten that already. I think that, people are human and I think they could recognize that. But then when you start throwing in the excuses and you start throwing in the, well, I'm not getting paid for what I did.

You're right. It's a different conversation. I think her PR probably could have handled it differently. Yeah, I just think this is the personally, like, a good, like, I don't really have any more bashing to do on, on Raquel. I think that's fine. I think everybody at this point should move on from it

and she can go do whatever she wants to do. but I just the choice of doing this with Bethany bizarre to me especially when Bethany is leaving a bad taste in people's mouths lately that I think maybe her people were not aware of that I think that's like just like a double whammy because people are just seeing through Bethany and I don't know I would love to really hear more of the reasoning on it right

and they were like oh because you know you were one of the only people who were defending her well Bethany never watched the show she had no idea she jumped in right at the end and I think it's easy to defend somebody when you've never seen the show yeah and it's like exactly the Howie Mendel thing but I think it's just like enough time is passed also where anybody who really followed closely with the show and what happened would have some grace with her coming on their show Like I don't think she would sit in an interview and be absolutely just destroyed. I know we wouldn't conduct it that way. So it's like I just feel like that's how it didn't have to be Bethany's show.

Yeah, you can have a serious conversation with somebody about something they did wrong without going after them. Yeah, absolutely. So it was kind of just a weird choice. And honestly, like there wasn't too much of what she was saying that the room. me for a loop or anything. Like there wasn't any big revelations I felt. She did say that she does not believe that her and Sanaval were in love anymore. She doesn't

think she was in love with him. She doesn't think that he was in love with her. I thought that was. I think that makes sense. A lot of sense. Makes sense. And I think that proves that they are not together and won't be together. You know, I think being off the show's is best case scenario. There was a couple interesting things about Tom

that she did say that apparently he got offered a producer credit for season 11. The show was going to be. canceled after season 10 if Scandival didn't happen and um about the Tom filming her thing

she said that she confronted him on camera and he got mad and then asked her like why would you bring that up on camera and he boycotted filming unless they took that out yeah so he is just such a oh my god I just I hold so much more right he's the one for

filming again going back to the show and you know it's just uh and then so did you see that ariana's best friend put on his story like true life none of us saw the video yeah i think it's very easy to lie and say you didn't see the video yeah you know i don't know what the truth is to that one yeah in a moment of anger did ariana send the video to her to you know what i mean you don't know and i don't think we should speculate either i think i don't think so either you know she went through something like that is not good. So I... That part, I don't think we should speculate on.

But it is interesting to hear that Sandoval wanted to cut all that out of. It does seem like... And also, boy, do I not like him getting a producer? What crazy. He should have no fucking decisions on how this shows me anyway. But in his eyes, he's like, look, look, I got us season 11. Like what? Now we have to watch season 11 with the mindset that things are moving around from him.

But I think like if that, if this is it for her, and reality TV as a whole, but like, Vanderypubb rules done, it's probably for the best. Yeah, I agree. Last thing is that we are getting new music from both Selena Gomez and Miley Cyrus, which just makes everybody's hearts happy. Selena Gomez posted on Instagram today.

I feel like this has been in talks for like a week now because there was a new website that went up that, you know, alluded to Selena Gomez having a new single. The song is called Singles Soon. And she wrote, I've been asking for new music for a while since I'm not quite done with SG3. I wanted to put out a fun little song

I wrote a while back that's perfect for the end of summer. Single soon, August 25th. Pre-save it now and with some pictures. It's apparently a song she's recorded like many years ago. Not many, many, many, but like I saw someone say maybe like 2017-ish. I don't know. So that's a pretty long time ago. And

Miley, just, you know, the best era We got Miley and Selena dropping music on the same day. Miley is dropping a song, Used to Be Young. August 25th, she wrote in celebration of my new single release, Endless Summer Vacation Backyard Sessions Continues. August 24th, 10 p.m. Eastern on ABC,

this time with a retrospective interview sharing stories about the first 30 years of my life in honor of used to be young. This song is dedicated to my loyal fans. I love you for loving every version of me, always Miley. So super interesting. I think this year obviously like she said, it's coming with a big interview, which love fun.

I cannot wait. I've also seen the, like these posters have been up everywhere. There's a big campaign going on right now for her like different Miley eras. Her mom posted a video. There was, came in like a wrecking ball, hopped off a plane at L.A.X. Like all different eras of Miley Cyrus,

which we've been talking about is what we want. I know. I know everyone, like, is critical on copying other people's stuff, right? Like the Jones Brothers are doing all their albums. And it's like, oh, they're just copying the ERIS tour. I want everyone to copy the ERIS tour. It's a genius idea. So why shouldn't we?

Let's not get mad at anybody for doing it. Exactly. Like, it's a great idea for Taylor. She's a genius, of course. But don't tell me you wouldn't love all your favorite artists doing the same kind of thing. Everybody does because when I go to a concert, like Drake, Drake did, it's all a bar. He did a bunch of songs from the beginning to now. Everybody, when they go to a concert, they want to hear all of their favorite songs.

They want to hear the old ones. They want to hear it all. And I also think people have been doing this for a while. I just think the way that Taylor Swift marketed it is what's making people talk about it more. But people have been doing this for a while now. But yeah, I think it would be great if Miley Cyrus said. And of course, we love any new Miley music and new Selena music. I think both at the same time is Garlayton and we're excited for it.

It has been a really long time since Selena's that. Was Selena's last album? Rare? I think. Was that the name of her album? Yeah, right? Is that the last album she put out? I mean, we were doing a live...

Oh, we're TikTok. We were doing a live listening on radio. I remember that. Good old days. Remember that? I don't even remember that. Well, we would do the... I know we would do the live...

Oh, you don't remember. We did one for Selena for that album. Yeah, Rare came out in 2020. Oh, okay. I thought it was before that. I thought it was before that too. That's not as long. Oh, but remember, it was right pre

everything shutting down. Okay, but that doesn't shock me as much as I thought it was like 2018. No, no, not at all. January 2020. No, that's not that long ago. Okay, makes sense. Exciting.

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jingle that you were doing last week. I really liked it. Now I forget it. Weekly Watched Port. No, that's the original. Yeah. Coming back at you with a weekly watch report. We hear all the things that Noah watch it makes us bored. Yeah, that was it. That was it. Um, yep. Might be a little, little wordy there. I added more words. I definitely, I have to go back unless I added more words. I did. What did you watch this week? So the movie that I remember to write down was burnt with Bradley Cooper and Uma Thurman and Santa Miller. There's a couple of different faces in there. Came out in 2015.

Takes place in London at the Langham Hotel where I stayed. And I was so excited to realize that as I was watching it. Bradley Cooper plays as chef Adam Jones. I don't think it's a real chef, but it's modeled after many other famous chefs. Who go through trials and tribulations of being a chef, of being an asshole chef, basically. Yeah, it was interesting. I liked it. I'll give it a C plus.

Okay. I watched the first episode of Dept versus Heard, or Heard versus Depth. I watched the whole thing. I'm going to give that a C. Yeah. Or a D. Like, I just feel like it's everything we've seen before. I don't know.

Yeah. It is, I will say, definitely, it wasn't. I'm going to give it a C. It wasn't really, like, new information per se. I'm going to give it a C minus. Yeah. Oh, my. I can't decide.

What are you grading it? I want to copy you. I would give it a C. I'll go C minus. Yeah. C minus. I wash all of them. And I think that it was more the setup of it was interesting to me.

And we, because it's all kind of things that we discussed when it was happening, right? When we were like, it's so crazy, the effect of social media and how TikTok is really creating a narrative for one person here. all that. And so like they really dove into that, which was interesting to see. I think his, I think cutting back their testimonies was also very interesting where it wasn't like, obviously that's not Amber was on the sand, Johnny was on the sand, separate weeks apart, but then really them cutting back and forth from them telling like the same stories and how they were telling it differently and seeing really some of like the YouTube reactions and the fans reactions of so people just so gung-ho for Johnny that there was no way he could have done anything.

And it was it was just like you said, it was just like a little scary to see the blind faith for sure. and it's nothing that we haven't also said when we were talking about these two that it was just it seems like it was an extremely volatile relationship on both ends. Yeah, they were awful for each other. That's what I've taken away from it is that they were both awful. Yep. Bad evidence against Johnny, bad evidence against Amber. And at the end of the day, Johnny had, he has that, like, he has the money, power.

his lawyers were insane and he went in doing exactly what he wanted to do which was make this a public spectacle to win the public back on his side no matter like I don't think he

could have cared less what happened actually within the trial it was a how do I get and it's the conversation of why they had the cameras in the courtroom and everything like he was able to win over the public again.

They're both actors and it's what they can do. They win people over like that. But it was very interesting. And it was three episodes, quick thing to watch. Yes. Okay, I gave that a C-minus. I watched episode six and seven of the summer I turned pretty. C-minus.

No comments, no. Nothing? No. This didn't do it for you, huh? Nope. Not quite. It's disappointing. Yeah.

For me. It's disappointing for me in general. I mean, I obviously want to be interested in a show. I love the first season. Yeah. It's tough because I got so much more to say, but I don't, you know, I don't want to, it's an empty soundboard I got. Only murders

I mean everyone can watch the finale now Only murders Yeah I fell asleep Not because I didn't like it But because I was very tired when I put it on Okay And although so now I don't have to go back and watch it

But man do I love them I do every time I love them every time I put it on I watched the first two episodes this week Since you know I finally found out that it was back on TV That's all I watched I really liked the first two episodes I liked the I liked the like

It was a good moment with Paul Rudd Of dead not dead Dead you know Way to spoil it for people I haven't watched it's I mean You know someone's dead And you know it's him From the trailer

Like you know from the preview You know he's dead And it all happens in one episode I really don't feel like I'm giving that much away Did you not watch it? I haven't even watched season two yet Oh so I don't know yeah

You can't play Yeah. So you're not going to... You said, can't give it a great. It was a great episode from when I watched, but I fell asleep. Okay. I'm going to give an A.

Okay. Just because... I'm sure it was good. No, I was really enjoying it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did not fall asleep because I don't like it. I was very tired. Um, what did I watch?

Okay. I watched, so... Heard versus Depp, I'll give a... A, uh, see, is what I already said. I watched episodes one and two of only murder. only murders Ria's yon I'll give that at A minus

I watched I was not on par I that was genuine I watched episode three and four of sweet magnolias

kind of a lull part here some things move in pieces but like I got like the end is always where like

the good stuff happens I'll give that like a C I watched the Johnny Mansell documentary

Oh, I watched that too. Yeah. I thought it was really good. I did. I thought it was really good. Very interesting. Kind of like, kind of like exactly how I expected it to go.

I mean, of course there was the big, the shocking moments. And it was all in the press leading up to the documentary coming out about him, like, really having, like, thoughts of ending. his life and things like that. Like we're in, I knew that was coming when I was watching it because I saw, we saw the articles about it. But it really was just an interesting look on how, I also think how different college football and the NFL is, college football, it was really like, hey, you're, you're really

fucking good. You can kind of get away with doing whatever you want. There wasn't really anybody like laying down the law for him. and the NFL was, of course, so much so different. And he loved football, but not more than he loved having a good time, partying with his friends. Having a good time is fun. I partied with John Mids L. before.

Good for you. No big deal. In what context? At a club in New York City. Oh, cool. I told him, yeah. Yeah. Just thought I would throw that in.

Why don't I feel like I remember this? It was after one of our, holiday parties. Okay, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Spider and someone else here went to a clubman. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did have a podcast here for a while.

Yeah, yeah. And, no, yeah. So, I mean, I thought it was I thought it was very interesting and very good and a good look into his life. And, you know, he's done some shitty things, questionable things. I think obviously, like he said, drugs,

a lot of heavy drug use. So I hope he's out. Out on the other side of that. Back, I guess he's back living in Texas. I don't know how recent that was. But when it ended, it was like him and his dad. I think they live in Arizona. Oh, yeah, you're right.

Scottsdale. Because you're right. He's like he's got a house in Scottsdale, yeah. I was more saying like when he found himself in a really down spot. He just was like, he went home. I'll give that a B. I liked it. Red white and royal blue.

I talked about on Monday that I watched, loved it. Thought it was amazing, impeccable. It gets an A. It gets an A. Oh, I did you go with A plus. No, no, it gets a day. It actually got pretty good reviews. I looked it up.

No, I really, good reviews. I really did enjoy it. And this is one, there hasn't really been anything so far that has come out that I have loved so much. I'm like, damn, it really fucking sucks that they're not doing press because I would love to have them on. this was the first one that I was like Fuck I would love to have We've had them on before

I know I would love to have Taylor back on the show And he was so sweet on Zoom Like it would have been so fun Loved just really Everything about it was fantastic I don't want to give too much away People haven't watched it Is the thing

That's why it's always hard with this Good old weekly watch report You know I don't want to spoil anything But it's just you know The movie solved all of the world's problems in a sweet two hours. Also, I saw, I was showing it to my sister

that allegedly there's a three-hour version of the movie that the director they had three hours and they cut it to two. I was like, give me the three-hour version. Release the director's cut. Release the director's cut. It's like the number one movie on Prime and everything right now, so very exciting. It was great, loved, absolutely loved it.

I haven't had a movie like that in a while. where I've felt like I've wanted to make it really a part of my life, you know? So I really like that. What else did I want? Oh, I finished quarterback on Netflix. I'll give that a, I'll get that a C. I liked it. I stopped at episode seven.

I will not be watching episode eight because that's when Patrick Mahomes beats the Eagles in the Super Bowl and I don't want to watch that episode. So I've stopped at seven and really I'm solely watched because I just, Kirk Cousins, what a, what a gem of a man. Just really loved all of his, all of his scenes. And then I believe Love Island, US, Casa Moore, good Casa Moore. Probably one of the better Casa more's that has happened on Love Island, US. I'm going to talk about what is happening.

So I know you won't care. What if I watch? You're not going to watch. You're not going to watch the Violin U.S. Maybe? I don't know for sure. Well, if I say one thing, it's juicy, maybe it'll get you to watch. Whatever.

There's a couple that they're in pretty good shape before Costa Moore. Not like clothes off or anything, but they're in good shape. He goes to, he, in the villa, the girls go to Casamore, in the villa, he has sex in the bedroom. Yeah. With one of the girls. In the communal room. I saw that. With everybody else in there.

Yeah. Oh, so you saw it. I saw it on Twitter. There you go. Which was, it's just insane. Crazy. Crazy move. It's never happened.

So obviously the recoupling was like a whole big, dramatic thing. There's a couple couples that I love. Carmen and Kenzo, I really like. Carmen could maybe not need to get into everybody else's business as much as she does, but she's passionate about her friends, I feel like, so that's nice. And Marco and Hannah and I also am obsessed with. I think they're great. I will give that.

Casamara was good. I'll give it a B minus. Good score. Yeah. Now that is everything I've watched. Okay. I've been watching a lot of suits Did you stop?

No, I'm still watching I just like can't Like at this point It's like hard to keep up with how many episodes I'm watching Because I'm like half with you season three now That's where I'm at It's actually like I'm almost liking it more as it goes on so far Really?

Yeah I'll give that I'll give that a B plus Just very easy show to watch Yeah chaining. Chimp Empire. Oh, I didn't watch.

I didn't finish the fourth episode. Oh, wait, but I watched the first three. I have to rate it. Yeah. B plus. Okay. B plus. Chim vampire, I watched the final episode. And that's an A plus. The whole series is A plus. And you must have been very high watching the whole series. Well. Because as I was watching it, I was like, this is, well, this is something that would be like,

really like something I could really zone out and telling people in real life to like everyone I've been encountering I try to like tell them to watch it and I'm like yeah obviously like if you're high right right right that's why I think it's getting an a plus from you and I wouldn't like watch it like when I would go home and eat dinner or whatever I would just put suits on but I'm saving that for later and I get it's a treat yeah yeah pitch black and just under the covers and zone out on it's great um yeah I don't want to spoil anything. But A plus. I watched the Johnny Mitzell documentary.

I'll give that a B minus. I thought it was just a solid documentary. And it was like it was quick. Yeah. It was like I was excited when I checked the time on it and it was like. It's like an hour 15. Yeah. I was because I was expecting like a four part thing.

Yeah, yeah. But yeah, B minus. I have two bad movies. Ooh. Two bad rewatch movies. So one I saw because of a TikTok clip of course and I couldn't remember like I didn't remember watching it. And then when I put it on, I'm like, oh, I've watched this.

But I was like, you know what? I'll just watch it again. It's called Spread with Ashton Coucher. He's like... Never heard of it. He's like this basically homeless guy, but he's just like an attractive guy who lives in L.A. and just sleeps with like really rich women and lives off them. That's basically the premise of it.

Wow. I've never even heard of this. Yeah. Have you heard of this? No. Ashton Coucher movie? No, I haven't. Yeah.

I'll give that a D. Wow. Tough one for our pal Ashton. Yeah, not a great movie Not a great movie It's almost so ridiculous So that it's like you can watch it This movie Frozen

Not the Frozen This movie Frozen? No, not that movie Frozen Go away Anna I watch this new movie Frozen So I had a couple of rewatches You ever heard of Frozen? No, no, it's not that frozen

This frozen And this was so bad that I like I literally just skimmed through different parts but I'll put it on here. Okay. It sounds like an F. This one's a D-minus, so it's close.

Okay, close enough. Basically the premise is these three people get stuck on a chairlift on a mountain. Like everyone, like, it's at night. They just forget that they're on the chairlift and they all go home. So they're stuck. And then there's like wolves and it's freezing and it's this whole thing. But terrible, terrible movie. So that's a D-minus.

They're announcing who. president at 3.30. This is the funniest thing ever, though. I do really, no, no. Honestly, Noah, one of my favorite things is, is just you watching terrible movies and talking about it. And then going, yep, it's terrible. So I watch this movie, D-minus, absolutely awful, terrible. I don't watch it.

I don't even know how you make it through the end of these. Some of these are so bad that, but I like to put it on. You have to see it through. And it's just like, I'm not like sitting there like fully invested. You're just throwing your, you're on your phone, throwing your hands in the this is awful. working like yeah maybe yeah the last movie that I watched in the theaters uh in the theater is theater camp you love this great movie really really good movie I mean I didn't go to theater camp

obviously um I don't know why you said obviously I don't know why you said obviously like that like there's a negative connotation to theater camp maybe you did go to theater camp tag me for like a theater camp I think I would I what are you talking about like I could see you being like the lights guy like the production guy like the back you know there's so many different roles at theater camp maybe you're not on stage front and center director

producer you're not Troy Boland yeah yeah no no I wasn't though but yeah Jimmy Taitro is just so funny and everything he does and all right fan boy all right sorry

all right Ben Platt was pretty good too had a comment literally after every sentence he said I'm sorry I'm so sorry I do feel like that most of the theater went to theater camp or something because I kind of felt like I thought it was very funny but there were so many times where the theater was like erupting and laughter and I'm like that must be like an inside theater joke or something

you're like I don't get this I never went to theater camp I'm on the outside of this inside joke the crowd was like very I love one of the crowds like excited like the second that the like lights went down they like erupted in a plot like before the music theater camp of them and it's just so funny maybe you went with like some of benplatt's biggest fans yeah uh i mean it was lincoln center movie theater

which is obviously right Lincoln Center but um yes that is where the Lincoln Center movie theater is that all uh no I it actually

did get an email like they want everyone in the area what was I going to say uh no it never gets old when the Nicole Kidman thing goes up and people like like recite it with her Yeah, no, it does. It makes me excited every time I go to the movies. That's all, though.

Okay. Thank you so much, Noah. Thank you so much. And I think theater camp is one. Many would be interested in. I do think, yeah. I gave a name minus. I don't know if I said that.

And full circle on HBO. If you haven't checked that out yet. You haven't checked that out. Make sure you stream full circle on HBO. All right. And now I'm forgetting the name of it. Oh, hijack. And hi jack.

By the one, Apple TV. The finale did come out. Yep. Good show. All right. That's all we watched this week. Fran, you know, you were, you were messing up your words a little bit, okay? You know, I complimented you.

You said, crem de la creme. You got one fancy word out. You thought you had it, but then you messed up. You know what that is? That's a rookie mistake. I'm a chock full of them. You are, and you know what the definition of a rookie mistake is? I think that actually was also just another rookie mistake.

I think the phrase is chockful of them. It's chockful. You did it again. And you know what? We're going to fix you right up. We're going to fix you right up. A rookie mistake? is something, you know, when you are just misstepping, okay?

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All right, everyone. We are here with a very special guest. We have Hozier back. in our studio. How'd I do? Yeah. Yeah. Good? All right. Okay. You know, I feel like probably every interview you do, it's either, hey, say your name for us or like you got that totally right or totally wrong. You nailed it. You nailed it. Perfect. We did have a little bit of a debate before you came in. Yes. And you know what? I think, you know, you came on our show years ago. Yes.

It was at the serious studios. And if I recall correctly, I think we had the same conversation where we like may have said it wrong. at the beginning and was corrected. Totally. I think you nailed it. I always say cozier with, you know, it rhymes with cozier, you know. That's a great way to do it. Yeah. That's a great way to do it.

Well, thank you so much for coming back. Thank you. We're very excited. We're very excited to have you. It's been a long time. It has been a long time. We've all lived a lot of life. You know, you guys.

Yes. We figured you wouldn't remember us. I think you're pretending to remember us. No, I do. I do. It was the offer, it was the offer, what was the name of the? We were at the serious studios. But that's like, I'm sure you had

Oh, that's the picture of us. To do a $9 million. Oh, wow, yeah. Look at all of our hair. Yeah. Check those out. Yeah. We've grown up, you know.

Yes, exactly. Look at us now. Third album. We're still doing podcasts. But we've done over 300 episodes. 500, 600 almost now. Right? Congratulations.

Yeah, it's a lot of episodes. It's amazing. It's kind of crazy. But you're here in New York. Your new album is out now when everybody's listening. You can listen to Unreal on Earth. How long have you been? been working on this. Yeah, I think

some of the first songs I wrote in like 2020, early 2020, I sort of started, I sort of put some other ideas aside and sort of kicked into this. But I think November 2021, so end of 21, was when

you could sort of reapply for visas for the States. A lot of producers I wanted to work with were based here. So it was really 22 was like an intense sort of like studio time where I was really, I had the ground wrong. and a lot of the recording happened then. And when you finish a song that you absolutely love

and you know it's going to be on your next album, what is that feeling like when you kind of want the world to hear it, you want to put your music out there and you have to hold on to it? Yeah, there's definitely, like it's a release. Like you're releasing the music in a sort of commercial sense, but there is something of a release where you let go of it, you know? And you have to, yeah, that can be, you kind of, you're kind of yeah you're emptying your pockets of it you're just letting it sort of fly it in the world and and either way when it when it's out there then it's it's it's it's not just yours anymore it's kind of you're hoping that people let it into their own homes and their own hearts and minds you know so um yeah yeah you kind of just like watching your kids go off to college you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah yeah you're all grown up all grown up yeah um you I read that you recorded mostly in L.A right yeah so and you were kind of like hopping around

from spot to spot. Do you have a permanent spot in L.A.? Or like that was, you were just couch surfing. I was kind of just surfing. Yeah, I was, what was fun about it was I could like live month to month

in a different neighborhood. So for when, if I do put a route down there, you know, I have a better sense of the city in different neighborhoods, you know. But I mean, everywhere's changing so much.

Like every city is changing so much. Even from the first time I went to L.A. to last year. Same as New York, you know. The Lower East Side has changed so much. That was the first place I ever landed in New York, the first show we did. But yeah, but some of it was done in County Wicklow,

where I'm from. I kind of recorded some of the stuff back home and then brought those demos over to... What was your favorite neighborhood that you were in L.I.? I have really good memories of... It was kind of silly living. Like Abbott Kinney was like, you know what I mean? But it was really, really fun and really nice.

I had friends nearby. And then... They're all of different paces, you know. They've all very different places. I live in the countryside, so anywhere where I could walk out of my place in L.A. And it's hard to find places where you can walk anywhere, yeah. And get a cup of coffee, you know. So I found that in kind of West Hollywood.

I found that in Silver Lake and a little bit in Abbott-Kinney as well. You were really all over the place. I was. Do you spend more time in the States or back home? It depends on the year. It depends on a tour cycle. I'll spend most of my time this year, I think, in the States, sometime in Europe. Last year I spent at least six, seven months of the year in the States.

Do you have a favorite state? I don't know. I don't know. I think culturally I... Don't worry, nobody will get mad. Culturally, I felt very aligned with the East Coast, you know, and with New York. I found it very... I didn't find it hard to settle in here. It's a bit of us. Yeah. And so I'm more aligned. defined culturally and it took me longer to make sense of the culture of the West Coast, if that makes sense.

Yeah, I definitely think that makes a lot of sense. And so you said you started really kind of working on stuff early 2020. What you started on, did that take on a totally different life kind of going through the pandemic? Like how did that affect what you were writing? Yeah. I definitely, you know, writing for me in the first two albums was always like something I'd do in solitude.

I'd kind of wait until I could be completely alone have time to myself I'd get a lot of work done between 10pm and 4 a.m. So yeah, kind of vampire hours and be very covetous of like just alone time

and just being left alone. But what I found in in the pandemic is actually for the first time finding the upper limits of what that can give me you know, finding the limitations of solitude and with regards It's like it being something that, yeah, it offers you more than it takes away. And so I sort of came down the other side of that.

After finding its limitations, I was really charged with this kind of new energy in working with other people. So when I got to L.A., like jamming ideas around, kicking ideas around in a space with other minds and other creative outlooks. and abilities, musical abilities, that was like super fun. Was it almost like, you were like, okay, I've had enough time alone. It feels good, but I'm ready to get these ideas to other people. I think so, yeah. It was, yeah, I'd emptied my pockets. And I was like, I was like, okay, so, you know, what else?

So I could produce the work, you know, with guys. But then also to just start from scratch, I'd enter into a space with like some of the producers and just start jamming music and make music with, In a way that I hadn't jammed since I was like 15, like just making noise with people. Yeah. And after coming away from a lockdown where being in a room with people was seemed exotic, you know, that was great. Yeah. And I'm sure you just wanted to know, like, I've been working on these songs by myself.

Other people have heard them, but I haven't been able to see that actual physical reaction. So it's like, is this, is this good? How am I working on? How do you know if something really hits you? Like you're saying you're just making music, you're jamming. how do you know when you're like, all right, we've got it? I think it happens early in the, it happens, there's two, there's one that happens early in the conception of an idea when it's still kind of in an embryonic state. And there's, it's like something is rising up in you.

It's like, it's like you can, you kind of put your ear to some abandoned well. And then you're like, oh no, there's something, there's something there. you can actually, you kind of are charmed by this thing that feels incredibly authentic or feels true to some theme or true to some part of yourself. And that in the conception of writing, you're like, okay, this is, this is special. I need to be, I need to cultivate this. I need to treat this with care, treat this idea with care and execute it as best I can. And then there is the ending, the ending of it when you're producing it where you're adding the bells and whistles. and that's delicate too because you're like

you want to make sure you're not having... You don't want to gild the lily. You don't want to add too many bells and whistles. And put on all of these branches and all of these limbs onto what is the core idea that you wanted to capture in the beginning. So there's these two kind of moments. But knowing when it's finished is kind of really hard

because that is tough and that's a matter of many opinions. And it's also the deadline kind of helps out. I was going to ask if you are somebody who goes back to a song that you feel is finished over and over again and how do you know like, all right, I have to stop going back to this. It's done. Totally. Yeah, that's hard because I definitely do. And there is some songs and it's never a good feeling that when you're laboring over what is those last decisions that you want to make. And it might be nothing.

There might be a word. But for you, it means everything. And like there's a lot, you know, you change one word in a sentence and it can mean something very, very different or can be interpreted very, very differently. So those ones, yeah, kill me. And there was a number of those on this album. But yeah, it's like, how do you want to stop coming back? Sometimes it's also just nice to say it's not going to happen. And like if you have to keep coming back to an idea because it doesn't feel ready, there's a great freedom in saying, you know what, it's not ready to be born.

It's not ready to come. So I'll come back to it at some other date or some part of it will find its way to something else, you know. You have 16 songs on this album. What do you find is like the perfect number? Because I've seen just the chatter from a lot of music fans these days is that we're not getting like full albums. Maybe they're short, they're either really short or really long. But like, would you find like that 16 is like a good sweet spot?

It felt good on this one. Yeah. It felt right. It was nearly a 17 song album. Yeah. You know, I think I, we recorded 26, 27 songs, you know, so that were, that are ready and mixed. So, and I really, it sucks because it's like I want to share those. You know what I mean?

They're really, they're parts of me that I, you know, that I really want to get out there and that I'm proud of. And so, yeah, 16 felt right. I think it's hard to know when you're, when you're sort of expecting too much from people to sit. many of us don't have 60s, 2, 70 minutes, like 80 minutes to sit down and listen to something front to back. So I'm also, like, I'm aware that the trick was, I suppose the challenge was like getting something that feels like an album with a capital A. But then also these songs can stand on their own two feet away from that space. And the majority of people will just hear, they might hear one or two or three, you know, like. I don't think the majority of people have the ability to sit down for 62 minutes and give something their unabided attention.

Start to finish especially. Maybe they'll come back to it and finish the whole thing. I struggle to do that with films. I struggle to do that, you know. Attention spans have shortened. Yeah, our attention spans and then our workload and our, you know what I mean? Yeah. Has increased.

So you pulled a lot of inspiration from Dante's Inferno for this album. Explain to everyone really what that kind of. kind of means and where that even came from because it obviously from just the immediate reaction feels dark. Yeah. Yeah. And there's also, it could be. It could be. And there's also something there's also the idea of just passing through something, coming through something and making sense of what you've been through and what you've gained in that time. and I think there's a part of me that's like super allergic to writing songs that are about a lockdown experience or a pandemic experience here we are like we all had our time with it we had we had our time in that and the time got made its way into us in a way that's just like okay people want to forget it yeah you know what let people process it in their own time so there's there's maybe one lyric on the whole album that that reflects in any way on that experience but um like what

one line from one song. But I think it still seems silly to not acknowledge the fact that I certainly went into these circumstances and I think we collectively as a society, depending on where you were in the world and what the rules were, what the consensus was of where you were. But we all found

ourselves in this place where the context for the way that we live changed, circumstances changed, we were at risk of losing a lot of things. People lost loved ones. People lost their jobs. People lost a great deal. Relationships changed. There was this enormous shift in the way that we contextualized our lives, understood the simplest of things like social interactions, physical contact. So there's this great sense of change of us sort of passing through something and then coming out the other side. And so it felt dishonest or it felt silly not to acknowledge at least the existence or the actuality of that. And so using that poem,

and that poem is about, was written by a dude from Florence, this poet centuries and centuries ago, and it's a really, really significant piece of, of, like, Italian literature. But it's this kind of vision quest of this guy ends up in hell, you know, and falls off the path a little bit,

or finds his way into these circumstances, ends up in hell and has to walk through it and comes out the other side. And so I just use that structure. And he, structures hell in his in his imaginings and his writings as having nine circles he starts at one circle and he winds his way down and then comes out the other side of the world um so i just i just shaped the album into nine themes which are named after the the circles that he that he sort of imagines and then

there's a descent at the beginning of the album and there's an ascent at the beginning of the album and or at the end of the album. There's like a returning or in a sense seeing the sky for the first time in a long time. And that's the kind of rough structure. So in no way is it a book report or you need to know to know to structure the album in a way that was like, okay, coming into something and out the other side as if to just nod to the fact that that's something we all did in the last few years. And it makes so much sense. And although it's like, you know, you hear hell and you're like that's dark, but that's a comparison that many people can relate to of going through a really dark time and coming out the other side of any kind of challenge yes yeah yeah yeah and it's like I think it's fun to play with

these stories and play like why that that poem is so significant it actually still to this day is like became the foundational text it's a foundational sort of imagery of how we all collectively imagine what hell is right and I think part of playing with myths like this and playing with stories like this is like we need to like I think it's good especially now it's crazy like the way things are kind of going in the last couple of years it's good to remind ourselves that hell is not a real place you know what I mean and but we can we but what we mean by when we walk through when we go through hell or we I think individually I think if you live long enough in this world you'll walk through your own little hell realm and you'll come out the other side you know and you'll you'll

take stock of what it is and I think it's it is an expression people use all the time like I went through hell and back. Yeah. Yeah, totally. So it's just playing with that. Right. You know what I mean? Now, from when you started making music and to now, do you feel a different pressure with the way social media has changed and the way people have been told to make music to cater to people on social media? It's, I found it a challenge at first. In the pandemic, I found it a challenge to be musician or songwriter or performer. and then become cameraman, lighting man, editor. Right.

You know, especially on an app that you, the interface of which is this size. And you make a slip and you lose 20 minutes of editing time. You know what I mean? It's, you know, a good, a good decent TikTok takes, takes hours. So I have to hand that respect to those who have, who have. Yeah, it seems really easy until you start to do it yourself and you're like, okay, this is not as easy as it seems.

Yeah, totally. Yeah. So there is, but there is a challenge in that that I'm, there's parts of me that was adverse to. But I have to say what's really nice to experience is like in the case of some songs on this record, there's a song called Unknown in particular. I just uploaded a video, video of me playing a sort of demo version of that song and to, to have direct access to people saying, hey, this is cool, to skip the studio, to skip the campaign thing and just say, hey, here's a rough idea. Like here's my sketch and people are like, that's cool, see that through.

And to get that immediate, have immediate access to that response is really, really nice. There's something special about that. You know the feedback right away. Yeah, totally. Yeah, that is really nice. And now you're going to be able to see all your fans on tour. When was the last time you had a full tour? Full tour ended December 2019.

So I can't believe it's 2023. Yeah. But. Most a full four years. Four years. I have been touring since March of this year. So we did a club run in the States and we did a kind of a club run in the U.S. or sorry, EU recently, in Europe recently. I don't know where I am. Last time I was in New York, we were playing the Barry Ballroom. And yeah, so we've done a few shows, a couple of shows back in Europe. But we're gearing up to a larger production, larger venues right now. Yeah, a lot of sold-out shows in. the in the US which is really really exciting i mean you're going to be at uh Madison square

garden which is huge what is that how does that feel for you it's cool i mean that's an that's an iconic it's an iconic place and i think um when you're starting out uh there is a part of you that doesn't dare to say to to yourself oh yeah one day i'm going to be doing Madison square garden you know or the hollywood bowl you you know so when it's upon you it's it's it's been a nice surprise. It was a really, really sweet surprise that sold out very quickly. I think the day the tickets went up, it was gone very fast. That's just super encouraging. I think to be 10 years, you know, 10 years now nearly releasing music. And it's just that it's still growing and people are still coming to the music and it's getting bigger every time. That's really encouraging. What's your reaction

like when you sell out MSG? You know, you're a soft-spoken guy. He yells about, that's cool. Yeah Just a couple pints Swet Of maybe a fist pump in the air Yeah I'd love to Yeah I don't know

I can't remember It was Yeah I was gonna joke like Yeah The false humbleness is gone Once the cameras stop rolling I was upset

I did seven lines of cocaine Wrap my car around a fucking lamppost Yeah We figure that's who you are As a person Exactly You know I was in the news

again back in court classic classic you I think it was a I think it was a quiet look it was quiet there's a there's a I have a reluctance to be all too proud I think it's like it is just okay that's that's good casual that's it was it is good

yeah I was I was good for me I was proud yeah I was happy I was proud I did allow myself a moment of of happiness yeah as you should What are your favorite and least favorite parts of being on the road? My God. The least favorite is definitely missing home, right? Missing the community that I'm part of over there.

My friends who I've known since high school, my high school buddies. In the pandemic in particular, I plugged myself into that community and I got to watch some of my best buds have their first kids and stuff. stuff, you know, and I'm godfather to a child now. And it's like, there's a part of me that feels like I'm missing, I'm missing a great deal of, of like, these significant moments in, in the lives of people I love. And that's, that's tough. And so the tiredness, you get used to being tired. You get used to being sleepless. Like, you know, it's like, it's like anything. It's like working in New York, I think. But I think, but then the best parts are.

It's incredibly rewarding, you know. It's to watch your life's work kind of come to fruition and get to sort of sit at the sharp edge of its impact with people who are showing up every day to be in it, to watch it happen. That's really, really rewarding. And there's also something you kind of have, you live in this perpetual sort of childishness of not of not being grounded. I don't have to think about like I don't have to think about like the little things.

Does my house need painting right now? Do I got to rearrange? Do I got to clean my kitchen? You know what I mean? You sort of take a step away from adult life and you're in a different place every day that you, you kind of just float through the world in a very playful way. And that's there's something fun about that too. This is a silly question.

but you mentioned, you know, missing some of your friends, big life moments. Do you have to RSVP to things, you know, when you're a big artist like yourself? Or do they just expect, you know, they can call you and go, are you coming to this or no? Yes, I do have to, and I have to be reminded too many times and just like, and that is one of my, one of my awful traits is I'm very bad at getting back to, yeah. I am to RSVPing. You're like, you got an email or send it or send the thing back. Yeah, especially if it's like a year away or, it's like,

yeah, wedding and whatnot, yeah. I don't exist then. It comes back with the little envelope to send back. You're like, I gotta do the mail thing. Yeah, exactly. I would assume, like, your closest friends from home, of course, have known you the longest and know you the best. How do they make sense of the kind of musical star that you are?

Like, does that when people get to poke fun? Oh, they, yeah, they do. I feel like Irish humor is a lot of making fun. fun of everybody. Oh, for sure, for sure. Yeah, like you, that's a write of passage. Yeah. Yeah. You're not really, there's a real cultural, like, aversion to somebody being all too proud of themselves, you know what I mean? There's a kind of a, um, you're, you're, there's a great. And look, I think there's wisdom in undermining things that people are, you know,

collectively think that should be revered, right? And I think Irish people are great at undermining things and sort of making fun of stuff. including celebrities, but I will say, yeah, like my buddies, for sure, they will, yeah, we've a WhatsApp group. And it's like, yeah, it's like schoolboys. You know they're proud of you if they're making fun at you. Yeah, 100%. And if they weren't, you'd be like, there's something wrong. Yeah, yeah.

Like, they'll just make up news headlines. And they're like similar to what I'd said a moment ago. Yeah. Right. I'll get a good laugh at you. Photoshop. Send them to you. We saw this today.

Yeah, yeah. You're like, wow, can't believe you got caught doing this again. You're out of control. You also just had a new video come out, and now, once again, I'm back in the position of probably mispronouncing somebody's name. But Domnall, right? Dom. No? Close.

It's terrible. It's terrible. It's terrible. Donal. Donal. So in Gaelic... Wow, that is just nowhere close to what I thought that would be. Gleeson, I can bet.

Absolutely, yeah. It is tough with Gaelic names that MH softens it so the M disappears. Okay. So donal. Donal. Yeah, don't believe. Learn something new over today. Yeah, yeah.

I mean, he's fantastic. Yeah, no, he is great. He is great. That was a, it was a valiant effort, though. I was just, I'm going to try. I was like, I could just ask you to say who was in the video, but I was like, I'll least try. No, I love to. Everyone's very proud of you.

Yeah, talk about, he's also, you know, he's a Harry Potter guy. He's in those movies. He is a Harry Potter guy, right? Yeah. No, there was a part of me that was excited. I was like, oh, let's do it. That's right. Because I know, those, those names are super hard.

But Donald, yeah, Donald Gleason. He is, oh, he's amazing. I've been a fan of his for years. Ever since I was a teenager, he used to be part of this kind of comedy sketch show back in Ireland. And I've been familiar with him for a long, long time. And I've always admired. He's incredibly funny. He has this very, very natural humor about him.

He is sharp as a scalpel, and he's incredibly quick. and then he just, he just, every time I see him perform in something, he just pulls another color out of himself, another string that, that, but yeah, so I was, the fact that he was up for it. Yeah. And also conceptually, he was a big part of its conception of its, of the actual idea of what this music video was going to be. And the idea itself of like, he was kind of like,

what about a dude in a field with a shovel? And he's just bringing it everywhere and we were trying to figure out what's going on. So he was he was elemental in every part of this video And then he gave so much of himself for three days Just like in the freezing cold in the water in the dirt And he just gave all of himself to this video And so there's the there's the fan in me that's just dorking out That I right working with Donald Gleason

And then there's just the there's a kind of artist in me That just admires him as an artist he's just he's an incredible actor Yeah yeah I was it's incredible to see that kind of collaboration happened to because when the big movie stars don't often appear in music videos so when you, that's, it's very, very cool. Yeah, and I guess I should say

Wolf James directed it directed by the name of Debbie which she was also, it was kind of a meeting of three minds on that and John Cotler I think edited it but yeah, Wolf James did an excellent job. So selfishly I have to ask you, because there's a song called Francesca on the album.

Right. I'm a Francesca. I introduce myself as Fran, which I go by here, but I am a Francesca. She was bragging last night. I was, which, you know, at first glance, you're like, ooh, there's not a lot of songs with my name, you know, and I was like, oh my God, I'm excited to listen to this one. And then I was like, it's not quite the happiest.

No, it's not. No. It's really not. No. It's really nice. So where, what was kind of the meaning behind that one? and where did the name come into play? Yeah, you're probably like listening to it waiting for the name to come up. Yeah, I'm like, I haven't, you know, it doesn't, it seems to not have said it one time. Yeah, so it's kind of that, that song nods to, that's one of the more direct references to the poem. Yeah.

In Canto 5, the character Dante, like, arrives to, um, arrives to this, like, enormous place in hell where there's this giant hurricane. and it's where lovers are being punished for having fallen in love in a way. In his fundamentalist, like, dark age, you know, it wasn't the dark age. It was kind of Renaissance time, but like his fundamentalist thinking that, okay, yeah, they fell in love, but that's also a sin. They were some carnal sin of lust and they're being punished for having been swept off their feet. They're being tossed off. Tossed off. Excuse me.

I'm glad that maybe that doesn't translate to the US. They're being tossed around. They're being tossed around. That would have been a very interesting scene in the poem. So they're being tossed off in hell. They're being tossed around in this hurricane. Jesus, great. So the song sort of wanted to capture some of that feeling,

but also undermine and sort of re-approach or ameliorate their condition and say, well, no, this isn't a punishment. How could we be punished for having fallen in love? That, you know, they're in the poem they're trapped, they're kind of locked arm and arm, they're still holding on to one another. And they're sort of weeping. Or Paolo is silent throughout that scene and he's just weeping. That's her lover.

Francesca Derrimini. And I think why it's significant is like Francesca Derrimini is not a fictional character. She was a real person from Florence that Dante, knew about and she was married in like a political marriage at the age of 13 or 14 to like a nobleman to much much older quite

unwell man and you know in what we would call now is like a child marriage you know and she ended up falling in love with somebody else and she fell in love with his younger brother so somebody closer to her age and when he found out about the affair he murdered them both at once and so

so he in his wisdom sort of goes okay yeah like he he he writes that how sad it is that they're that they're in hell but at the same time he also made the decision to immortalize this this person who's a real person into into his book and to populate hell with with her and sort of write that yeah she's being punished for that so so part of the approach is also it's like well no hang on a second and maybe approach that idea with our own modern day sensibilities and sort of soothes that that scene a little bit, you know, and kind of turn those, those tears of sadness into tears of joy and say, well, no, this is exactly where I want to be. This is exactly where I chose to be and would make that decision again, again. It made a lot more sense to me when we were preparing for the

interviews. I had listened to it when it first was released on its own and I was, and I was like, you know, I feel like maybe I'm missing something. And once, you know, we're doing prep and hearing more, reading more about what really like was coming from this album. I was like, now it makes a lot of sense. Now my God, now I understand the connection. That's the reference. But it's an awesome song. The song, it's a, you know, that has a major, like, rock element to it, I feel like.

Totally, yeah. There's a good, what genre would you place this album in? Can you even do it? Or is it like I just, I feel like genre's very, there's not, everything mixes now. Yeah. can't really, I can't really place it. And I think part of the approach I wanted to make sure that also my influences are super eclectic. And so being honest to my influences, it feels dishonest to my influence and how I experience music if I'm not somehow channeling, channeling the full, you know,

spectrum of my, of my own influences. And so, yeah, so genre to me seems convenient when we're talking or we're trying to box music into something. It seems convenient when we're marketing music and we're creating this idea that something is a neat little experience or a neat type of lifestyle in a world where nothing exists in a vacuum. We are living in an increasingly blended global world. So yeah, it's, so part of that was, is that part of it is also just allowing each song. and I think taking license from this idea of different circles

and saying okay that that was that circle now this is this circle allowing each song to just fulfill itself in whatever production felt right at the time and whatever sonic landscape or soundscape whatever textures and colors felt right for that song at the time of its making you know yeah definitely the cover art is very cool yeah is it your own mouth it is my own mouth that is my those are my horsey Poor C. T. Yeah. Yeah. So it's wonderful photographer called Julia Johnson, who's based in L.A.

And she took that photo, that cover shot. And there's photographs throughout the, you know, in the inner sleeve and stuff like that. I just sent her a few doodles of like, this would be cool, you know. What if you bury me in soil? I just sent her like a, you know, a little sketch of a mouth, you know, in the ground. And she and her partner, who, who, who, who. is part of her team built this sort of set that they could bury me and and you actually did do like go under and everything yeah it looks very cool it is really cool yeah it was it was she was then kind of standing over me keeping worms away from my mouth and stuff like that but it was like yeah but you still got you got some dirt in there I got some oh yeah yeah yeah I did make it as realistic as possible well the last thing I want to ask you is just what are some other artists that you're listening to right now I always think it's interesting to hear musicians taste in what they're currently loving that's

that's out there yeah i i keep going back to to stuff that that returns to me and then like gives me a new thing you know uh i was testing out new headphones recently and then something i always used to listen to on different systems but um was uh like was again was nina simone the song wild as a wind So, like, I'm always going back to, like, classic, like, 20th century recordings. Recently, I went back to, what was the last thing? I was, like, really sat with an album. It was, like, Big Thief, you know, and Big Thief's first album and second album. Adrian Lanker, I think, is the primary writer of that work.

And it was, it was, like, I don't know, it was just, like, such a stunning experience of, like, returning, being a tourist in my own memories, you know, and just, this um i was just so taken with her songwriting and and their their songwriting those those first two albums were the last kind of ones i really sat with in the way that we say it's hard to sit yeah yeah you know sit down with and then um you know obviously you know i was listening to boy genius recently i'm touring soon with madison cunningham i've been listening to madison cunningham she's an incredible artist um yeah um i don't know what genius is cool i've they're there they're Phoebe Bridgers is so cool. Absolutely. And just incredible

songs, like just the craft in her songwriting is really impressive. Thank you so much for sitting in here with us. This has been amazing. I will say, you know, a majority of us in the room have all listened to the album and loved it. Only a majority? Only a majority? Yeah, yeah, really?

He's a fucking Christ, guys. I know, I know. A majority. Well, I mean, almost everyone. I only say a majority because I think maybe a couple didn't have access. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm looking forward to hearing it myself. We like to chew our own horn when we get things in advance, right? We're like, well, we've heard it all already.

Thank you for listening to it. And it's really, really great. They all loved it as well. You got some big fans in the room, yeah. Really. Very exciting. And honestly, it's one of those things where I would say, hey, if you're in a city that has tickets still, you can go check them out. But a lot of the spots are sold out, which is crazy U.S. and some dates in the UK and Europe.

later in the year. Yeah, I think we've tickets. There's no good for people who are at this side of the world, but we've tickets for maybe a few European shows that were in a nice space. If you're like us, you're in New York, it's sold out.

So maybe you can walk by, see the big sign on the outside Mass Square Garden. And everyone can listen to Unreal Unearth. Thank you. Yeah. But we'll be back next year, I think. But thank you so much for... Thank you.

Thank you so much for coming in. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Make sure to go back and watch out live stream. of us dyeing Noah's hair because unfortunately he did not have it during this episode. That is all. Have a great weekend. We love you and we'll talk to you on Monday.