Chicks in the Office - HUGE Bachelorette Spoiler, Ellen Show + Our Apology to Joe & Sophie

Episode Date: August 3, 2020

Our heartfelt apology to Joe Jonas & Sophie Turner for forgetting to talk about them having their baby (13:26-19:29). Update on everything going on with Ellen DeGeneres (22:24-34:37). HUGE Bachelorette spoiler that alters the entire season (37:30-49:11). TikTok drama (49:43-58:22). The VMA nominations were announced and Harry Styles was SNUBBED (1:00:13-1:07:20). CITO merch > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat & our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. This podcast is presented to you by Francia, our favorite wine to drink, especially our favorite wine to drink this summer. You know we've been talking about it every single podcast.

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It was nice. I had a nice weekend, was perhaps a little overserved, but that's neither here nor there. That's what you deserve. You deserve to get overserved at this time. Yeah. Yep. It was a good weekend. That sounds fabulous.

We are two ladies who have went through a change. We have. We both went on a little hair journey the past couple days. And it's fantastic. what, I just want to say, your hair looks fantastic. Thank you, Fran. And you know what? I want to say, your hair looks fantastic. I actually saw somebody put on a review drink every time you hear Fran Oria say fantastic. So everybody drink up because we just said it at least four times. Yeah. Yes, we did both go through a hair transformation. Fran, you went a little. See, the thing is,

I would say you went blonde, but you didn't. Your hair still brown. No, I didn't. I didn't go blonde. Yeah, people thought it looked more blonde in the picture, but I also think that's just like whenever you dye your hair lighter right after, it looks, it just looks brighter. It's like a honey, like a honey brown kind of. Yeah, it's like that. And I just cut it a little bit. Maybe like a camera, no. Yeah, like nothing too drastic.

I really like it. I think it was like a, just like a good little pigmy up my hair needed. Not as drastic as yours. Fran yours is fresh. It's beautiful. It's summertime. It's sunshine in a bottle. It looks fantastic. Thank you. Yeah, I just went rogue, literally, because my hair is black and... Wow, nailed it. Good one.

Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't planning on doing that. No, I didn't know if you had that planned. No, I didn't. It just came out of my mouth. People are calling me Grella DeVille, but that's okay, because I fucking love it. I really do. My hair is like, honestly, if you see me out and you don't recognize me, except I'm not blonde hair, it's black and the two front pieces are blonde. So I am no longer blonderia. I have black hair. I have black hair. with blonde pieces in the front. Well, it's kind of like, you're super black hair. It's like chocolate brown. It just looks really dark because I just dyed it. But honestly, I'm feeling fucking good about it. Like, I just feel like I needed a change.

I will say this. Emma from comments by celebs, she talks to me about it. And she was like, we are living in the most repetitive times and any change that you can get is a blessing. So she was like, that it's amazing. Like, it's just such a nice switch up, just a fun thing.

to do. I mean, what is life at this point? Why not do something a little crazy? Shake it up. Anybody who's like, oh, I want to do this to my hair, but I don't know. Life is too short. Just do it. Why not? It's just hair. You could dye it back. For all the people are like, oh, you know, you took, you achieved this blonde and you can never get it back. I can get it back. I can get it back. It's called hairdie. My hairdresser, she said, I promised you, I can, I can get it back. Maybe not the first time around, but the second time, mate, or the third. You'll, you'll, can have blonde hair again. So I said, fuck it, let's do it. I love it. I feel like a rock star. I look in the mirror. I do finger guns. I'm like, you're working it, girl. So it is what it is.

I think it was a nice switch up for the both of us, Fran. I think we needed a little fresh hair dye in our system to make us feel good. By the time you're listening to this, I probably have a woman's hand up my butthole. Not to be, not to be too specific. Sorry, that came out. not the way I wanted it to, but I talked about how I was going to get a colonoscopy. And if you're listening to this, I am probably mid-colonoscopy, meaning the woman, the doctor's hand is up my mud hole. Mid-exploration. Yep. She's on a journey through the colon. Thank you. That was definitely the visual that everybody needed listening to this on a Monday morning. I'm sure everybody was super thankful for that. I'm sorry. I was thinking about this though, and I was talking to my friend about it.

I'm like, you know, it's so strange the concept of getting in colonoscopy. Like, they stick a camera up your colon, they look inside, they got to go through your butt. I was like, oh, I don't want her looking at my butt. And then I realized my butt is probably way cuter than the 50-year-old men butts that she has to look at all the time. Because usually you get a colonoscopy when you're like 50 years old or older. Yeah, yeah. So it's like a nice little change up for her. Right.

This is just like a nice stroll in the park, smelling some daisies. one of the good ones. She got one of the good ones. Just got one of the good ones. You know what? And I'm curious to see how you feel because, you know, you have talked about your health journey for quite some time. So I really hope that this, there's a solution. Like I hope this works for you, you know, where it's like there's really an answer. Right. We were talking about this before we started and I just hope that there's like a little something wrong that's not life-threatening, that can be fixed, just to give me an answer as to why my stomach hurts all the time. Because if they went in.

I'm in so much pain all the time. And I do have endometriosis, so that is definitely part of it. But I just feel like there's more to the story. And I'm just hoping there's a little something. You know, like when I was younger and I would be in so much pain. And my parents, I'm acting like this happened all the time. It's happened like twice in my life. I was in so much pain. I had just started a job as a hostess at a pizza place. And it was like my second

week there. And I was getting the worst pains in my back in the middle of my shift. And I was like, I have to leave early. I got to leave. I got to go to the hospital. And in the back of my head, I was like, God damn, I hope there's something wrong. Because if my parents take me to the hospital and I just left work early, they're going to think that I like made up these pains to get out of work. And I ended up having a kidney infection. So it was great. You know, it took, got some antibiotics and that was it, but I had a little something wrong. Yeah, it, it's, it has been crazy because there's so many times that like the invisible, it's like an invisible pain, you know, right? Like, it's there, but it's like, you can't pinpoint it and you just want to know what it is. And seeing your, not to, you know,

get too into your personal health, but, but you sent me screenshots of your, of your x-rays. And Maria's neck is just like not the correct shape. I am so fucked up from top to bottom. I am an 85 year old woman. If you look at my body, these x-rays I sent over to France. She was like, Jesus Christ, I was floored.

I was going to send them to Noah too, but sometimes I feel like I overshare with you guys. And I was like, I don't want to like overshare with Noah. As we talk about your butt health on something. on the podcast. As I tell all of our listeners. Yeah, yeah, I got some x-rays of my neck and not great. It's, it's, uh, yeah, French, shake it around. Literally like, literally like your neck, like is supposed to curve slightly and Riaz is just, whoop, straight pole. Great pole going the opposite way.

Yeah, like it's, it's not good. But, you know, it is what it is, guys, like I said, life's too short at any moment. Go dye her hair. Yeah. Go dye your hair. You're, you really are right, though. like I have so many people freak out about hair and it's like it's hair you can change it so easily that's what I'm saying like Kylie Jenner changes her hair every week yeah and everyone's just like okay but I do understand when people you know we don't change our hair that much drastically so I I kind of understand me freaking out a little bit but I'm also like it's our heads so I also do what we've I know. I also really like that, you know, obviously we haven't been together for, like, we have been, but not for a really extended period of time. Like, I talk to you mostly through this, me, through this way. And I, it's just very typical us to be like, oh, I think I want to change my hair. And then for both of us, I should be like, let's just do it. Like, we, we made back to back appointments without knowing. Like I texted, I was like, I made my appointment for Thursday. She's, like mine's Friday.

Like, yeah, we're doing this, it's happening, like just completely unplanned. But it's, it's, like very,

trying to think of the right word. There's like a, influence, like you see someone else change their hair and you're like, oh, fuck, now I want to change my hair,

you know? Right. But the thing is, that didn't have, we wanted to change it at the same time. You know what I'm, exactly.

That's what I'm saying. It was very weird. We both had the idea. We both booked appointments and then had, it was, it was, you know, we're always in sync. That's what it is. We are just always in sync. Because it was like sending you pictures of like what I wanted to do with my hair. At the same time, you were like, wait, I was just looking at pictures of what I want to do to my hair.

Yeah, I. Oh, timing worked out well. Yeah. Except I went like not even close to what I, like. Oh, not. You're different from what you sent me. I didn't even go close to what I was planning on doing. So it is what it is.

I love it for me. I love it for you. And I'm happy about it. And like we said, this whole intro is just a PSA to dye your hair if you want to. Go do it. Any color you want. Don't let anyone stop you.

We do have a fantastic show to get into today. And we have some apologies. I mean, yeah, we have some apologies to me. Yeah. Yeah. To the Jonas family,

which we will get to. We are going to be talking about Joe Jonas. and Sophie Turner having a baby because for some strange reason, we didn't talk about it last podcast. Just absolutely humiliated. Utterly ashamed. We're also going to talk about Ellen DeGeneres and what's going on with her show. We are also going to talk about some insanely huge Bachelor news spoilers. And listen.

We don't like spoilers. You guys know that, especially for The Bachelor. This is a spoiler you're going to want to know. If you don't want to know, then don't listen. But this one, you're going to want to know because it's, it's going to come out. It's juicy. It's going to come out within the next week, I'm sure of it. Like, there's no way they can keep this on lock.

So just listen to it. I promise you, it's one of the biggest Bachelor news you will hear recently. Or it blew my mind. It's something that has never happened before. And we're also going to talk about some TikTok drama. Dixie and Griffin, if you guys know who they are, Dixie Dixie Dahlio, got cheated on by Sway. Swayhouse member Griffin. and TikTok might be shutting down.

So who knows? Also the VMA nominations where Harry Siles got completely snubbed. So let's get into it, starting off with Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner. Dear Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner, we have an apology to make to you, too. Our sincerest apologies.

We regret to inform everybody that we forgot to talk about the news of Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner are bringing their beautiful baby girl, their first child into this world. How this news went over our heads when we were recording this podcast, I don't know. We're dumb. We're stupid. We're idiots.

We deserve to be punished. But that does not mean we are not going to talk about it. They brought in, like I said, a beautiful baby girl into this world. Willa, wonderful name. Congratulations, Joe and Sophie. I'm very happy for them. I still cannot believe that this happened. And especially because when the news broke and, you know, TMZ opposed it that they had their baby,

my Jonas group chat, like we all got on FaceTime together. Like we all talked. Like it was a whole thing. And then when Thursday, when I realized they didn't talk about it, I texted them and was like, guys, I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed. Kick me out of the group. It's, it's, it was.

Very surprising. Can't believe we did that. It was just like a complete oversight. But it's embarrassing. It's extremely embarrassing. Yeah. And it was funny because my friends tried to like make me feel better by being like, oh, well, you know, it wasn't like they made this whole big announcement. It was just that article and like there's not that many details. And, you know, they haven't really said anything about it. And I was like, I appreciate you guys. It would be hilarious if I was like, oh, we're not going to be speaking about their baby, you know, out of respect for them. Because when that's never happened, I would just be lying because I'm incredibly happy for them.

And obviously, there's no way we can't, there's no way we can't discuss it. Willa Jonas, what an absolutely beautiful, beautiful name. I love that name. It's a beautiful name. There's no excuse as to why we didn't talk about it besides us just forgetting. Just completely forgetting. I'll take some of the blame as well. Oh, no, that's so big of you.

I appreciate you, you throw on your hat in the ring there. Yeah. It was a group oversight from all three of us. We completely forgot. Before the show starts, we all throw out our ideas for topics, and nobody said Joe Jonas and some of the turner's baby. So that's on all of us. Our bad.

Yeah. This leads me to, obviously, congrats to Joe and Sophie, very happy for them. Like, I just can't believe their parents. They're going to have the funniest parents in the worst. as well as the most talented and beautiful parents. But this brings me to the question, when will Nick and Priyanka fornicate and bring it up into this world? I would guess that that's already happening.

Do you think they are mid-trying? I would think so. I mean, I don't know if they maybe had thoughts about delaying it with just what's been going on. but I would assume yes. And I also just think of Nick as like, you know, the Uber competitive wants to have like this, you know, if his brothers are doing something, he wants to be doing it too.

Now Joe has a baby. Obviously, Kevin has kids. So it's like, Nick's like, all right, let's go. We got time for babies. Time. We've got to have babies quick. And I'm sure that is coming at some point soon. would be my guess.

And it's also hard because, you know, Joe and Sophie were very private about it, which, of course, they're allowed to do it. It's their baby. You know, there is never even like a formal, I'm pregnant announcement. It was just obvious that she was pregnant. So I feel like they could be keeping this very,

continue to keep this very private. Like, I don't know if we'll be seeing pictures of this baby or what, the deal will be, but I'm sure that all these Jonas family gatherings are going to be so cute. Like, I would love to see Kevin's girls with their new little cousin, and they, and I love that they're all having girls. Like, it's like, of course, this family of four brothers, now, like, all their babies are girls. I kind of hope it continues that way.

They just have a whole army of girls. Yeah, I love that. I hope that continues as well. Speaking of babies, and while we're on the topic of this, Gigi Hadid actually posted a picture with Zane and wrote Baby Daddy. It got me excited. I'm not going to lie, it turned me on a little bit. I was like, oh, damn, Zine's a baby daddy and Gigi Hade and they're kissing on the lips and we just don't really see this kind of affection from them. I was excited about it. And I'm really happy for them as well, but I think it's kind of the same vibe. They're trying to keep her private, which I think

they should because with social media nowadays, everybody has input. on what they think they should do with the baby and even just making comments about a lot of parents. Just a lot of parents shaming. Yeah. Just a lot of parenting. Exactly. So I feel like as much as they can keep the baby private is the best case scenario.

Of course, we want to see some cute pictures here and there. But keep it minimal. And I'm sure that's the best way to live their life. Yeah, exactly. And that picture of Gigi and Zane, you understand why. why they are having a baby after seeing that picture, you know? Those two. They must have some fiery sex.

The chemistry explodes through the, through the phone. Like you said, it's just, it's so palpable. So it all makes sense. I'm psychic. I knew you were going to say that word. I said it in my head. In your head? We're just on the same page today.

Yeah. Finger guns. We look up to me. I got fake people showing fake love to me. Straight up to my face. Straight up to my face. I've been down so long and look like God to me. They look good to me.

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that are happening behind the scenes. So honestly, this is just getting really bad and it is not looking good for Ellen right now. Yeah, the whole situation is terrible. The first thing that happened was that they issued a internal investigation by WarnerMedia that had came out that they were doing that. And then Ellen wrote a whole letter to her staff which she said, I'll read it.

Hey, everybody, it's Ellen. On day one of our show, I told everyone in our first meeting that the Ellen DeGeneres show would be a place of happiness. No one would ever raise their voice and everyone would be treated with respect. Obviously, something changed

and I am disappointed to learn that this has not been the case. And for that, I am sorry. Anyone who knows me knows it's the opposite of what I believe and what I hope for our show. I could not have the success I've had without all of your contributions.

My name is on the show and everything we do, and I take responsibility for that. Alongside Warner Brothers, we immediately began an internal investigation, and we are taking steps together to correct the issues. As we've grown exponentially, I've not been able to stay on top of everything and relied on others to do their jobs as they knew I'd want them done. Clearly, some didn't.

That will now change. I'm committed to ensuring this does not happen again. I'm also learning that people who work with me and for me are speaking on my behalf and misrepresenting who I am, and that has to stop. As someone who was judged and nearly lost everything for just being, being who I am, I truly understand and have deep compassion for those being looked at differently or treated unfairly, not equal or worse, disregarded. She's thinking that any one of you felt that

way is awful to me. It's been way too long, but we're finally having conversations about fairness and justice. We all have to be more mindful about the way our words and actions affect others, and I'm glad the issues at our show were brought to my attention. I promise to do my part in continuing to push myself and everyone around me to learn and grow. It's important to me and Warner Brothers that everyone has something to say that everyone who has something to say can speak up and feel safe doing so. I'm so proud of the work we do and the fun and joy we all help put out in the world. I want everyone at home to love our show and I want everyone who makes it, um, who makes it to love working on it. Again, I'm so sorry for anyone who didn't have that experience. If not for COVID,

I'd done this in person and I can't wait to be back on our stage and see you all then. Stay safe and healthy love Ellen. So she put out that letter. A couple days later, a bus feed news put out a article exposing leadership from the show in sexual misconduct and harassment. So like you said, Rhea, like at first this was like, oh, okay, the employees, maybe they, it's like, don't look Ellen, Don't look Ellen in the face. Don't talk to Ellen. Like it was all kind of seemed like she was just such a narcissist and like didn't care about her staff, you know?

And she puts this letter out. But now it's so much, so much more than that. And I don't really know what Ellen's next move is. There's a lot of bad shit happening at her show, clearly. Right. And at first it was like, this funny thing where it was like, oh, man, Ellen's not the nice woman you thought she was. And we were cracking jokes about it. And now it's not something to crack jokes about at all because

you realize how much shit went on that we had no idea about. Like, we just thought that Ellen had these crazy standards that people had to live up to. Like, you can't look at her in the eye. And when we heard that, that was honestly like a funny comment to hear. Like, not necessarily funny in a way where you're like, ha, ha, people should act like that. It's like, ha, ha. what a fucking psychopath. Now it's just like, okay, Ellen had no idea what was happening at her company and she didn't care to know what was happening at her company. And I think it has something to do with the fact that maybe she became so rich and famous and

big and her head was huge to the point where she didn't care to know what was going on in her company and that itself is a problem. Even if she wasn't directly being mean or whatever, it wasn't coming from her directly, her not overseeing her show and the employees that work there is a huge problem. So I think right now what needs to happen is get rid of Ellen, get rid

of all the employees, start new, let's get a new woman up there and just get a brand new show going because it's clearly not working right now. Yeah, and all these, these are all very high level people at this show. Like Kevin Lehman, Lehman, he

Lamon, there's so many options here. he was a head writer and executive producer. And there's so many instances that people reference in this investigation. There was someone who had said that he asked him if you could give him a handjob or perform oral sex in a bathroom at a company party in 2013. Another said they separately saw him grab a production assistant's penis in May 2017. Another former employee also said she saw him grow up a production assistant in a car. and kiss his neck, nearly a dozen former employees who range from long-time senior-level employees

to production assistants said it was also common for him to make sexually explicit comments in the office, like pointing out male colleagues bulges or asking them questions like, are you a top or a bottom? And now, he said, like, a former employee said it's masked in sarcasm, but it's not sarcasm. So I'm thinking, like, if there's so many instances of this guy and, like, this is what he personally has said like is his humor like you know pushes maybe he pushes it too far sometimes I have a hard time believing like Ellen doesn't catch wind of that sometimes like it's it's because it seems like it's not like oh he did that one thing seems like that's his personality like he he does these things you know he put out this statement saying that um he he said while my job is as head writer is

come up with jokes and during that process we can occasionally push the envelope. I'm horrified that some of my attempts in humor may have caused offense. Like, those aren't jokes in general, but they're also not jokes that would ever be used on the Ellen show ever. Like that, it's not, you know, it's not late night, Saturday night live, like, where they're allowed to, you know, curse and push some boundaries. Like, I just, you know, that's just a lame excuse to his inappropriate behavior and that he's not recognizing himself, which he absolutely needs to. But when people have these positions of power, they just feel like they're above it. And, you know, oh, it can't possibly be me. I was just saying that as a joke. And, you know, behind the

scenes to your employees, like, it's just extremely inappropriate. Yeah. And definitely taking advantage of kids that show up to work at the Ellen show and it's their dream job and they think that they can get away with this stuff because they're working at the Ellen show. It's like this whole thing. like BuzzFeed spoke to 36 former employees, BuzzFeed wrote, many of whom independently corroborated incidents of harassment, sexual misconduct, and assault from top producers like Lehman.

All of the ex-employees, many of whom had voluntary left the show, asked to remain anonymous. And it's not, and it wasn't, it wasn't just him. There were also allegations against Ed Glaven, who is also an executive producer, that he touched them in a way that made

them uncomfortable by rubbing their shoulder, five former employees said this, by rubbing their shoulders in back as well as placing his hand around their lower waist. Dozens of former employees also said he had a reputation for being handsy with women, especially in the control room and managed the team through fear and intimidation. Like it's just sounds like a horrible, terrifying place to work. And it's these poor people who went and thought they were like getting their dream job only to have these horrifying things happen to them. It's insane. Exactly. That's what makes me so mad is that these people, you know, like you said, young kids, or like, I want to work on, you know, a talk show. It's my

dream job. And I love Ellen. And she's so great and so nice. She does so much for people like, it's just my dream to work there. And then you show up to work and you just have all this inappropriate shit happening around you. But you also feel like if I say something, I'm going to get fire and I'm not going to have this dream job of mine. It's really tough position that they're putting people in. In all, 47 former employees who spoke to BuzzFeed News said Glaven led with intimidation and fear on a daily basis. That's everyone. It's not like they have an insane, sanely large staff at the Ellen show. That is every single employee like year after year after year, which is clearly this guy sucks. Yeah, exactly.

And obviously, you know, every one of them put out bullshit. Like I categorically deny these allegations, the whole thing. So like I said, Ellen put out that letter. We'll see what happens. Now there's tons of rumors that she could be replaced, that she won't leave, she will leave. And there's just been like weird instances of like other people chiming in, like Scooter Braun. I don't know if the tweets are still up, but like Scooter tweeted out support for Ellen. and like, you know, if anyone knows Ellen, you know that she is the nicest human and does so much good in the world.

Yeah, when you're Scooter Braun, like, you're, you know, when you're one of the biggest managers and you rep all these famous people, of course Ellen's going to be nice to you. Yeah, exactly. That's how, like, the way she treats other celebrities is probably incredibly different than how she treats normal people. Right. And that's what's important is that even if you are a huge celebrity, that you treat other people the same. Like, you don't just, you don't just treat celebrities nice and the other ones like shit because they don't have as much money as you. The brother from Everybody Loves Raymond, like, chimed in and said that, you know, it's also just a known thing about the behind the scenes of the show being really bad. So everybody has their Ellen. story, it seems like. And now

so many more people are publicly talking about it. And obviously, these former employees were treated so, so horribly. And I don't know what they're going to do, but if some of these guys are maybe going to be fired, I would hope, but I don't know. Yeah. Now there's this investigation. I hope obviously they get rid of these guys that all the accusations are coming for. But I hope that the employees that

you know, went through all these struggles and these hard times at the Ellen show end up getting a job that works for them. And maybe they'll, you know, if they redo the Ellen show and it's somebody else and maybe they'll get an opportunity to work in a better environment. Yeah. And maybe it'll just fucking open her eyes. Like, hello. One former employee said, for someone who's so involved in the show and the creative aspect and having been in those meetings with her, it's very hard for me to wrap my head around the fact that she doesn't hear the same whispers unless she really is just in the show. And this bubble. And then another former employee said that Ellen doesn't want to know about what goes on behind the scenes and nobody wants to rock the boat because she is essentially the show's brand. She knows the former employee said she knows shit goes on but also she doesn't want to hear it.

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listen now. The rumors on the street are, well, shut it off, you don't want to listen, but please tune in. Last chance. Last chance. But I'm telling you, you're not going to miss, you're not going to want to miss this tea at all. It's piping. The rumors on the street are Claire Crawley, quit being the bachelorette because she fell in love with contestant dale moss who is absolutely gorgeous just have to state that i totally understand why she would fall in love with them but she quit the show and now tasha is coming in as the new bachelorette and apparently it's going to be half and half they're they're going to show both things claire you know the fallen in love with this guy and quitting and now tasha coming in and i need this to be true

I need this to be true. So fucking bad. I know. It would be so incredibly juicy. And like you said, this is unverified. We don't know. It really started from this Reddit thread on the Bachelor Reddit. And from a woman, or who knows, from a, you know,

a person that runs a Bachelor spoiler account. And they got some tips saying that production was having a lot of problems with Claire. She canceled everything that was supposed to. to happen on that Saturday before and they called in a new bachelorette. They were recasting her Tatia. Tasia is already quarantining at the hotel and they should be taking her phone on Friday. The plan is to her to call back some of the guys that have already been eliminated. When I heard this, I figured it was a bit of a stretch and didn't believe it. Then that magazine article came out and made it more believable. And today, Reality Steve said that he heard some of the guys got called

to come back. All of that is pointing to what I got told on Monday. So I figured I would share. So there was an article that came out in Life and Style that was saying that the same thing that Claire was done. She already fell in love. The show was over. She was out. And those are always hard because life and style, you're not going to get, like, you would assume there's not 100% accuracy

in a lot of what they post, but something like that. It's just so, like it would be such a weird thing to have no truth behind it, you know? Like, that's never happened before where a bachelor or a bachelorette, there's rumors that they have already falling in love and that person is named and the whole thing, like, unless there is some sort of drama going on. And reality, Steve did say that he was aware of the post. He's last, uh, over the weekend, he said, I've been on the phone for the last two hours digging. Cannot confirm 100%. Um, but if you ask my opinion, I think there is some serious validity to it based on what I'm hearing now. Then she did a live with Demi. He did a live with

Demi. Demi said she texted Tasha and her texts turned to green, which she thinks means her phones off, which means maybe she doesn't have her phone because now she's the best friend. I just love this theory or whatever it is because I think it's true at this point. Like I think, you know, why would this be spreading so much? If there was, if this was wrong, then Tisha or Chris Harrison or whoever it was by now would be like, this is not true. This is, you know, Right. Well, like Claire's having a great season. She's looking for love. She's on her journey, all that bullshit. But that's not what's being said. Now this is what I'm interested in seeing. What will happen when they air Claire's season? What will, you know, the opinions of Chris Harrison be? Because, you know, he was so strong on Claire and being like, we can't, we can't express how excited we are for her season and for her to have this journey of finding love. She's been on the show multiple times. She's, you know, an adult now. and she's really just ready to settle down. And then she finds that and she's like,

okay, I am now quitting the show. And I honestly, I have no idea how to feel about it from Claire's end because on one hand, I 100% understand falling in love with someone and not wanting to be with the other people. Like you don't want to fake a relationship with the other people and you feel so strongly about this person. Yeah.

You don't want to continue on. Like, you can't help your feelings. I mean, your feelings are your feelings. But on the other hand, you signed up for a show, you signed a contract, you knew that this was a possibility of you falling in love with somebody. And then, you know, because how does that not run through your brain before you go on the show? We've said it multiple times. What if I like somebody on the first night?

I don't like anyone else. What do I do? You got to continue the show if you sign this contract. But now she's, I guess not because she's getting out of it because they're going to bring Tasia in. And it honestly adds a lot of spice this season. So you know what? now that I'm talking this through, props to Claire, because we're going to get an awesome season. And we're going to get Tisha as the Bachelorette, which is what we wanted from the beginning.

We've been rooting for Tasha. She's 29 years old. It's not like she's 23, 24, whatever it is, young, not ready to settle down. She's been married before. She has a great backstory. Like, I just, I think Tisha as a Bacheloret is what we needed. And for Claire to step aside, get that man real quick and get out of there and then have Tasha come in. Like, I am all for this season.

and it brings the spice that we needed because I think when Matt James was announced as The Bachelor, we all were like, oh, you know, we're so over Claire season. Like, we just want Matt James as The Bachelor now. We don't even watch Claire. Even though when it was announced that Claire season was filming, we then got excited again. But this makes me even more excited. And I do think that Tisha, if it is true, if she is the Bachelorette, I also think it's going to be a great story of someone finding love,

like we thought with Claire because like I said, she's older, she's 29 years old, she's done the shows before, she's done Paradise, she's, she's done the thing. So at this point, I think she's ready to settle down.

And you know what? Number one, I just have to say, if this isn't true and we just get like a regular Claire season, it's going to be so disappointing. It's going to be so boring because we were like, have all these crazy dearies. But I will say like,

it's funny because of course, course, if you, if you watch the show and you've seen Claire, you'll know what I'm talking about. Like, of course this happens with Claire, like, where everything is taken to the extreme. We, I was so confident that they went in with Claire because they were really looking for a success story. Like, you know, a lot of there, there hasn't been last few seasons. The couples haven't worked out. and I feel like they thought Claire would be, you know, she would go in and definitely fall in love and it would be maybe that like love success that they've been looking for. And of course, like,

if this is, if this is all true, she went in and fell in love in like 10 days and was like, I'm out. Like this is, you know, this is, this is the guy. And I'm with you. I hope this is true. And I hope we see it all go down. Like I hope. we see footage from Claire's season. Like, I don't know how, I don't know how they do this. Like, do you show Claire's season? And then you're like, oh, now it's Tasia. And it's like, how do you, how's, also, how do you do this with the other guys?

Like, the guys. I envision it. You know, and it's, and it's crazy because it's like, I just feel like you'll get so many, it'll be hilarious to see, like, people who come in and who are like, I'm 100% here for Claire. I want Claire to be the girl. I'm ready for Claire. And then like she fucking leaves and Tasha comes and they're like 100% here for Tasha.

Yeah, that's a great point. That is something I thought about the fact that these guys thought they were getting clear, but now are getting Tasha. Like is Tasha just getting Claire's like sloppy seconds on these guys? Like they don't even get to cast like they don't cast guys with Tasha in mind. They did it with Claire, which is why they obviously picked a much older cast than normal. but maybe that's, maybe that's like exactly what Tasha needs too. Like, there's so many guys that are around her age.

Yeah, Tisha's 29 years old. I think that the guys are around her age. I will say the sloppy seconds thing is a great point. Like, oh, these were the men for Claire. I'm hoping that they call some people up that they had on the back burner, that they're like, hey, we want you to fly out, come on the show. Tasha's going to be the Bachelorette. And they mix it.

Some of Claire's, some of Tasha's new guys. I see the footage. It's dramatic. cuts of the producer saying, she won't come out, she won't come out. I don't know what's happening. And they're knocking on the door and they're like, Claire, come on. She's like, no, I don't want to. And, you know,

it's a whole, it's a whole ordeal why she doesn't want to go on a date. And then all of a sudden, we see fiery, beautiful Tasha walking in. And she just looks like a princess and then, yeah, and then it ends. It's like her, yeah, like the trailer is like all the drama. then like the fucking limo door opens and you see just like one foot come out it's tata and then and then and then and then we get the season right and i just i think it works out perfectly when you write it like that and i just hope that they do bring in other guys because i don't think it's fair to tasha to just have guys

who thought they were getting clare because then you don't know in your in your heart if these guys are there for you or if they were there for claire although i was going to say you know it's only been 12 days. They can't be that attached to Clara, but Claire fell in love with them the 12th date. So maybe they are. So maybe they are. And maybe guys will leave. Like maybe they'll be like, look, I came here to date Claire. That's not happening. So I'm going to go. And I'm sure like they have a whole like, I'm sure book of guys that they can call up. I also feel like they had so many guys kind of on the back burner for if Claire wasn't the Bachelorette. Like with the age thing, I think they kept a lot of the younger guys and said like, oh, you know, we'll keep you in mind for

another time. So it could happen during that. I mean, this is all true. The bachelor producers must just be weeping with excitement because because it's pouring out of there. It doesn't get more, it doesn't get more dramatic than this. Like I feel like at first they probably freak out because it's like, holy shit, this girl is our bachelorette and she just wants to quit. But it's like, oh shit, this girl is our bachelorette. We've only been here for a week and a half. Let's just get somebody. Let's just pick somebody else.

I think Bachelor producers literally get turned on from the drama. Like, they're like, yes. Oh. Like, I am so, I just, it's, I'm even getting that way. I'm like, I can't believe that we are going to get this season. If this happens, the ratings will be through the roof. Through the roof. And it's what we need.

We need the show to come back better than ever. And this is exactly what we'll do it. Yeah, you know what? I'm really excited. I really hope this is true. Like I said before, if it's not, and we just have Claire season like normal, got to really suck. Boo. Don't stop. Make it pop. Tick-Tom drama update. If you've been following along with the D'Amelio sisters like we have, then you know that Dixie got cheated on by Griffin, who is a Sway House member. And I, for one, am pissed. Why? do these boys keep treating the D'Amalia sisters like this? They are the queens of the internet. If there was a status higher than queen, that would be their name because now everyone's called a queen. They deserve something even higher than that because they just dominate TikTok as we know.

And they seem like great people genuinely. Actually, I've met them. I'm talking, you know, I bet them. They were wonderful, nice people. We did TikTok together. I am literally just a speck of dirt on the street compared to them in terms of social media. And they treated me with utmost respect. They even posted me on their TikTok. Like you had like at the time Charlie, Charlie had like 30 million followers and she posted us. And I was just like, that's so nice of her. You know, like they just are great people, it seems like. And these fuck boys keep fucking them over and cheating on them and thinking that nobody's going to find out, but they are very famous. So the people that they do hit up and the people they do Snapchat and the people they do DM end up blowing them up on TikTok, and they make TikToks out

of it and they get exposed. And it's terrible. I just feel so bad for these girls, even though I don't at the same time because they are so rich and famous now, but I feel bad in the aspect of people treating them like shit. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Nikita really, really, said it very well in a tweet. I was scrolling to find it. I found it. She had said, what's with all these weak-ass men?

They feel so insuperior. They got to resort to cheating with some broke-busted bitch in order to fuel their masculinity again. I'm tired of seeing my bad bitches get fucked over by some five inches on a good-ass dude. Good day, ass dude.

I don't know. Not sure what some of that all means, but I feel like she's gotten very close with Dixie and Charlie. Yes, but, Dixie wasn't a huge fan of that tweet, I think, because... No, well, well, because I... And which is so fair, because she was, like, being mean to the...

To the other girl, yes. Which is, and it's not her fucking fault. Right, it's not the girl's fault that Griffin, you know, Griffin's dating Dixie. He should have been more respectful. This girl is the one who helped expose Griffin, so I don't think we should get mad at her. I think she did a good thing by exposing him. Not at all. And they're just, like you said, they're just such sweet girl.

Like even through all of this, Dixie's like, you know, tweeting out, you know, don't stop sending hate to people. There's no gain. Like, you know, they just, they're nice girls. And I feel bad for Dixie anyway because people are so weird with Dixie. Like all these, all these, I guess, I guess rumors, secondly is like, you know, what they are, that she is like not treated the same by her parents and is like the least favorite in the family. Like, it's so, it's just very bizarre and, like, so personal. And it's like, you don't know my family. Imagine having to be like, yeah, like, my parents love me.

Like, what? Like, you know? Yeah. And it's crazy because there's only two of them. And they clearly love Dixie. The family is very close, as we all know. And the youngest just gets treated differently. It is what it is.

And every family, not just a famous one. Like, the youngest gets treated differently. differently. You don't know what actually happens in their home. You only see what happens on TikTok. And what I see from TikTok is that they're all very close, that they don't treat Charlie better than Dixie or vice versa. I just think, of course they love Dixie as much as they love Charlie. I mean, it's their kid. And it's not like, it's not like, it's not like they're, oh, they love Charlie because Charlie's famous and Dixie isn't. Like Dixie is just as famous as Charlie. She just doesn't have as many followers. because Charlie got the hype first.

Like, yeah, exactly. Exactly. And, you know, there's been a lot of drama with TikTok because, you know, Trump had said that he's going to ban TikTok and now thought that that was maybe going to happen. Like literally TikTokers were like saying their goodbyes on TikTok. But the U.S. general manager of TikTok said that, you know, they're not going anywhere. It's not going away. So we will, we'll see what happens.

Another thing that is currently ongoing, but it seems like maybe something happened with Addison and Bryce. some tweets coming out. Addison deleted a picture that she had with Bryce on her Instagram. She commented on his picture, though, after that happened. So I think they're okay. After that? Yep. After she deleted the picture, she then commented on his picture writing something nice. So I think they're fine. But I saw that Bryce Hall was on Logan Paul's podcast and Logan Paul asked him, what's stopping you from asking Addison to be your girlfriend? And he, Bryce said, I'm a pussy. And just basically that he's afraid.

All right. Okay. These kids, it's just, it's just funny because I see, like, you see these tweets and it's like, kids having, like, this is how you used to be when you were that age too. We would do the same thing, but it's on such a bigger stage.

So it's just so funny to see, like, Addison tweet, like, I'm confused. And, like, Bryce tweet, like, I'm confused. Like, clearly they're, it's like, they're having a conversation and trying to find shit out, but it's through each other's tweets to millions of people. Right. It's like when you were in high school and you would sub-tweet somebody, but only one person would like it. And they are getting thousands of likes and retweets and millions of people are looking at them. I just think, well, first of all, about the TikTok banning.

People were like rooting for the demise of these TikTok stars like no other. They were like, Addison Ray, Charlie and Dixie, they're going to have to work at McDonald's. Their lives are over. And it was getting me so mad because I was like, yes, it's very sad if TikTok gets taken down because it is what jumpstarted a lot of these kids' careers. And I even love TikTok and you love TikTok, just scrolling on it. It's a source of entertainment. It's like when Vine ended, it was sad. But the Vine stars became YouTubers. Like David Dobrick started on Vine and then he became a huge YouTuber. So, and the same thing with Addison Bryant and Charlie and Dixie. Yes, they have millions and millions and millions of followers on TikTok, but they also have that on

every other platform as well. They have it on Instagram. They have it on YouTube. They have it on Twitter. All those followers don't just stay on TikTok. They follow them to other places. So they're going to be completely fine. They're going to, if TikTok goes away, they will be okay. They will have all these other social platforms. You know, Instagram is coming out with a new TikTok called reels and that will be the new TikTok to people and they'll they'll be fine. I just hate that people like root for the demise of kids because they're jealous that they became millionaires and they're not. So they think that, oh, something bad is going to happen to them when they're going to be fine. Yeah, definitely. It looks like Dixie, I'm going to have to watch it. It looks like Dixie made

her last YouTube video titled My Last Date with Griffin. So like that's a prime example of like they'll be if ticot didn't exist the the video the video has 471,000 views in two hours like it'll be okay like they'll still just post it on youtube yeah the intro to that video i watched it it was uh she said yeah so uh we broke up um but i was scheduled to post this today so i'm just going to post it anyway so and then it led into the amazing which proves how sweet these girls are. Like, like, I would have been like, fuck that guy. I'm not posting this video with him. I hate him. But they're like, okay, we filmed this and, you know, why not? I'll just post it on YouTube. Exactly. I just think that there's so much for these kids to do. Like, there's always something next.

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The VMA nominations were announced and our guy, Harry Styles, was completely snubbed and I'm just going to go cry. I'm going to remove myself from the segment. I'm going to go cry about it. It's, it's really bizarre and I, and you know, I think the VMA's more and more, people just don't care as much anymore. I feel like you're, you know, it doesn't have, it doesn't have the, the hype. I think Miley Cyrus was the last one that I remember. Right. Like, Miley. Yeah. And that can, that is true and I'm still, like, I don't understand how the Harry Styles Adore you video was not included in more of these categories. Um, not video of the year, not artists of the year, not song of the year.

I mean, watermelon sugar as well, that song is so fucking huge. And he made of music video and that doesn't even get nominated. Adori as well. I guess they're out. Phenomenal. So good. Phenomenal video. So good. Like, and then there's, they're going to be all it's all about the music videos, then, uh, hello, an amazing music video. Clear, like one of the best music videos around by far. So I just don't understand how that didn't happen. Although I will say, you know, happy for the George brothers. They did get a nomination for Best Pop video for what a man got to do.

And that, that video is obviously amazing. And, but like video of the, like Lady Gaga, I guess, you know, the thing with Lady Gaga, I guess, you know, the thing with Lady Gaga, she always puts out these, like, insane videos, right? Like, they're always going to be, they're always going to be good. I don't think the song, her, that song came out later than everything else reigned on me. So it feels like maybe it has more relevancy just because of how recent it came out. But, like, she got, she is the most nominations, I think.

Video of the Year was also Billy Eilish, everything I wanted, Eminem and Juice World for Godzilla, future with Drake for Life is Good, Lady Gaga, Ariana Grande, ran on me, Taylor Swift, The Man, the weekend for blinding lights. Artists of the year, DeBaby, Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Megan the Stallion, Post Malone, the weekend. Sometimes I feel like artists of the year is just like a very random group of people. Yeah, because you always feel like, oh, no, I'm thinking of new artists, sorry. But no, I actually think that's a solid group of people.

Yeah. been like popping off this past year to be honest yeah i just feel like and i once again it's harry styles like i just don't know how harry styles doesn't get included in the artists of the year how how how that album was truly amazing i just don't get it it's i you know i'm not gonna watch i'm just not gonna watch this year i am but i don't want to i know and and you know what also when i saw like uh the man the music video Taylor Swift's the band video is was fantastic I'm rooting for that one. Yeah, it was really so good. And then obviously I said the Drone's brothers were nominated for Best Pop. So was Justin Bieber for the Intentions video, which was a great video. And Halsey,

you should be sad, which is maybe my favorite video of the year just because of how fucking hot she is in that video. So there was, looking at it made me realize like there was actually a lot of really good music videos this past. year I feel like. Like people kind of, there's like a dip where music videos that just weren't as good. Like there's always the people who you know you could rely on to put out a good music video. But then now it's just been been happening a little bit more often, which is nice because all these videos were great. Like reading it again. I was like, oh, I got to go watch that video again. Yeah, I agree. But there's always just like this underlying, you know, Harry was a nominee.

But all these other artists are great. And they, came out with great videos. Like you said, Halsey, Taylor Swift, just really great stuff this past year. Yeah, exactly. It was really impressive. And you know what? Harry Styles,

the videos were nominated in other categories, but like for visual effects and stuff like that. It did get some recognition, but I did read that like those awards don't go to Harry. Like that's, you know, best visual effects goes to the visual effects person. obviously it's it's a win as a whole for the team because

he it's his song but not not getting the big categories like those aren't ones that they announced on the show I think directing maybe also there he got one um but Taylor Swift got nominated for best directing

for the man so it makes sense I think best uh let's see best direction yes he got one Dave Myers got one for that and art direction for Adore You as well and visual effects for Adore You. So he's on there, but you know, should have been, should have been the big ones. While we're on the topic of Harry Styles real quick, I want to mention this tweet that was going around. And Noah quotes, he tweeted it from Chicks in the Office and wrote Harry Styles, therapist by day, rock star by night.

And this tweet perfectly sums up by what I meant when I said, Harry Styles is my therapist. This woman tweeted, I guess therapy can wait. HS2 and Tor can't. And this was October 10th, 2019. Harry Styles responded and said, go to therapy. It's important. I'll wait for you. Hashtag world mental health. And then he DMed this girl and wrote, hello, I saw your tweet about telling someone you have feelings for them. Life is too short not to tell people how we feel. So my advice would be. to go for it. If you really mean it, then there's nothing to be scared of. Be honest and vulnerable. That's what makes you feel human. And feeling human, the good and the bad is what life is. Hope it all goes well. Love H. I have, I'm speechless. I can't even get the

words out to what I want to say about this, but isn't that just the dream? Harry Styles is scrolling through your Twitter, just, he's just like us. He's just scrolling through random people's Twitter, just like we do. And yet he sees a tweet and he feels so strong enough that he's, He DMs you to say, listen, tell this boy how you feel. I imagine she responds and she's like, I like you. Well, sir, it's all you. I mean, even if it wasn't him, it should be. It becomes him after that.

It just becomes him to be able to send the message. No, that's just the kind of person I feel like he is. I saw a picture of him running in Rome. I guess he's in Rome right now. I saw a picture of him running and boy, did he look good. Yes, he's got this mustache thing going on, which, you know, some people love, some people hate. I think he looks amazing. So I mean, obviously.

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