Chicks in the Office - James Corden Apologizes Again + BIP Week 5 Recap

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

Subscribe to our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE. Fran's existential crisis (00:00-13:15). Adidas drops Kanye (14:49-17:09). Favorite alcoholic drinks (17:10-23:28). Dean & Caelynn engaged (25:12-33:03). James Corden apologizes again (33:05-44:17). Taylor Swift hints what's next (44:19-52:16). Bachelor in Paradise week 5 recap with Kelly Keegs (53:17-1:28:37). MERCH! > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. This is state of emergency. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. Hopefully you had an amazing start to your week. It's the middle of the week.

And then the weather in New York has been shit, mate. It has been shit. Mate. Yeah. Yeah, you're right, mate. It's been shit. It has. Absolutely shit. And my parents call me from Florida and they go, oh, it's beautiful. My God, it's so hot and sunny. And it's not that way here. It's not. I just like to have a little sunshine. The rain just kills me. I like a sunshine gets me going. I know. You know? I know. Anyways, how are you guys feeling on this beautiful Tuesday afternoon? But not beautiful. I'm good. Just life. I'm good. Yeah, just, I'm good. I just feel like time is... You said I'm good three times,

which made me believe you're not good. I know. The way that you said good. I'm fine. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. No, time is...

I'm having a weird grasp on time. Like, you know when you book something where you have plans and when you book them in your mind, you're like, oh, that's far away. It's months away. Yeah. I got so much time. Are...

I kept thinking like, Our live show is so, it's next week. Like, it's so close. It's something about when the month changes. Like, but it's still, it's still hard for me to grasp. And then the, my Vegas trip to see the Jones Brothers is, I felt like that was months so far away. That's like, two weeks.

I'm like, I'm not. But these are exciting things. They're very, I'm pumped up about them. I'm excited for them. I just feel unprepared. Don't feel unprepared. There's no reason to feel unprepared. What are you unprepared for?

I don't know. You'd no reason. I've been stressed, honey. Relax. about I don't even know what. Take a little three cheat or something and chill out. Nothing to be stressful. Only things to be excited about. We got the live show next week.

We are going to do a new segment. If you've been to our shows before, our segments are usually pretty similar at each show. We're throwing in a new segment and it's time of the signs, which... And some fun submitted that. I need to find who it was because they should get a shout up for that. We're going to find who it was and give them the credit who submitted that on checks in the office. Great idea. We're going to play.

style sign of the times but it's time of the signs and we're going to go through the best signs that people brought to the show little heads up though so if you're coming to the boston show bring a sign don't use too much glitter we've been given notice from the venue that glitter will not make the cut but you know bring your best signs be creative it could be whatever you want it to be yeah and we're really excited about that i am stoked for this boston show i'm really excited to get back on stage I'm trying to figure out which outfit to wear. I'm like, I want a little pizzazz. I want a little pop.

It's Halloween weekend coming up. So fun. And I just, I don't know. I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm having, I'm having anxiety over like everything, like the littlest things. Well, we need to fix that. Everything's just getting to me. We need to get to the root of the problem and just fucking rip it out and make you feel great, Franny.

You know what I need, I need, you know what's hard is I had such a good, like I had a very good therapist at home and I want I like going to see somebody. Like I like being actually in person with somebody. And I just, I just don't know where to turn in New York. Like it's like there's just so many options. Maybe there's someone that you know that could help you out. Yeah. Or you could try better help. Yeah. I know, but I like to be, I want to be, I want to be like in an office. Yeah. That makes sense. I understand that. I like to have the person on person. It makes me open up more. You do need that. I've tried like the virtual stuff and I think it works for a lot of people and it's very great for me. I feel like when we were talking about lying to your therapist. That like makes me feel like I can get away with not. Yeah. Oh, telling the whole truth. Right. When I was going, I mentioned this to when we talked with Craig and Austin and I was going to therapy. Why are you looking at me with disgust right now? You are. You have to. We're going to start cutting the camera. No, no, but I'm going to start showing.

you the camera and how you look at me sometime. I didn't see it. I was looking at you. I'm not looking at you. I thought I had green on my face or something. Yeah, it was that. It was like. I'm thinking about myself and it makes my face react, but I'm looking at you because

you're talking, but I'm being selfish and still thinking about myself. No, no, that's, you be selfish. Like, I'm still thinking about myself. So I was not making a face at you for anything you were doing. The point is you shouldn't lie to your therapist. You should get to the root of the problem because two years ago when I was going to therapy, I was straight up lying to my therapist until I stopped going to therapy and realized what the problem was. And then I was like, oh, I just wasn't being honest at all.

So you just got to get to the root of the problem and fix that stress, honey, Bunch. I know. You know what really threw me for a loop this weekend is not serious at all, but it's just, it's a ridiculous segue. But Sophia Grace from the Ellen show being pregnant just we didn't talk about that on Monday. No, we didn't. It really threw us for a loop. That threw me for a loop this weekend.

I could not get over that. Happy to see her name back in the news. It's just, I mean, I was like, damn, I am old. No. But then maybe that's, you're not old. Maybe then that sent me into a spiral of getting older. Okay, you're not old though. No, I know, I know. I know. I hate when people say they're old when they're still in their 20s, 30s, 40s.

I feel like I'm getting old. Old is 80 years old. Yeah. Old is not 28. 28 is so young. But you have to think about like, I literally remember I sat in sophomore year, high school. I would always be like, oh my God, like my life's like over. Like I'm going to be in college in three years.

Like my childhood's over. And then now I look back and I'm like, I was so young. But I felt so old. There's so much life to live though. There's so much to be to be excited for in life. Life's not over. It's only just beginning. Would you rather be now or would you rather be in high school?

Because I would rather be now. But if I like freeze time. If you could freeze time right now, yes. But you wouldn't, would you want to go back to high school? No. But I like having no responsibilities and like being a kid. Guys, there is so much more to life. I get really aggravated when people say they're old when they're your age 28.

When can we say we're old? 40? 40, you could start being like, but 40, I think people get rejuvenated. Like, I just, I think in your 50s and 60s, you're like, you know what? But 50 years are like, I'm not old. Like, 50 year olds talk about 70 year olds. Like, oh, I can't believe I'm going to be 70 one day. Because I still think that is all like there's, you don't have to just stop living life at a certain age.

Like, there's just so much to do. No, it's not living life. For me, it's just like a mind. set, not even a mindset, it's just like a quick reminder of like, hey, lady, you're not 17 anymore. But you don't act like you're 17. No, but I feel like it. But you want to but that's beautiful, but that's good. You should feel youthful. Yeah. You should feel youthful even though you're no, no, I would say the problem would be it's like you want to, you feel like you can't act how you used to, you know? Well, I don't, I don't have that problem. I'm not trying to act like I'm a

kid again. You're not a kid. You can still go out and have fun and do whatever you want at any age. Yeah. That's my message. I had a very funny interaction Saturday. You saw one of my oldest friends was out with us. Yeah.

And she doesn't live in the city. And it was late. And we were trying to get her to just sleep on the couch. We were like, it's late. Don't worry about going home now. And what growing up, we just always joked about how any time we had a sleep or like anything. She would always forget to pack her contact lenses and stuff, like new, new lenses or solution, whatever the hell it is. I don't have contacts, so I don't know the whole

setup. And we used to like, the running joke was like we'd find her contacts in our carpet, like in random places, like in my room, like on the floor, I'd be like, how did she leave her fucking contact here? Like always random places. And we just always make fun of her for never remembering to bring anything and then she like looked me in the eye Saturday night and was like Fran I I don't I don't have my contacts so and I was like wow are we 15 or are we 28s very reminiscent yeah but very important yeah and Joe went out and found her like contact solution and we put them in a little bowl so that's great that's that's great yeah see when you get older you could do that yep that is true Halloween weekend is coming up and I'm a little upset

said I won't be dressing up because I had actually an outfit in, I had a costume in mine. I'm so happy I'm not dressing up this year. Sorry to be a Debbie Downer right now. You really are. Everything I used to when I was a kid. When I was 27. I actually really, I really do like dressing up for Halloween, but I think this comes back

to just the anxiety I am dealing with right now that throwing another level of like worrying about Halloween costume could just be too much. But these things are not worrisome things. You know what I mean? Like I understand when you have anxiety, it just takes over. Yeah, it makes me worry. Right, exactly.

But you want to make sure it's good enough, you got to make sure you order all the stuff. Or it's just a fun and stupid thing. Yeah, exactly. That's what you can look at it like, hey, it's really not that serious. It's just like a Halloween costume. I wanted to dress up like Michelle Pfeiffer from Scarface because I got the wig last year,

the blonde wig, the short hair blonde wig. And I just... I think you almost have too much hair now. Like you have such great. hair. I'm like, how did you, how would you put that thing in a wig? I did it last year to try it on. You want to see a photo? Yeah. And I was like, oh, this looks cool. Like I'll hold on to this for next year because I was like, oh, that's a good outfit. I know obviously people do it all the time with long hair. But I have a wedding in Nashville this weekend, which I'm also very excited about. That will be

very fun. But I wanted to, I wanted to dress up. I wanted to be Michelle Pfeiffer from Scarface. Maybe I'll do it next year. I'll always have that wish. And I've never worn a wig for Halloween. So I thought that's something... Wigs are fun. Cool and different. I've never done it before. Hold on.

Wigs are fun. I do love a good wig. We'll try to include it in the YouTube so that people can be like, oh, there it is. Instead of just talking about it and then nobody ever... Yeah, I do love a good wig. I'm not going to line. I... There's definitely...

I'm very excited to see what other people dress up for... Drop dress up as for Halloween this year. Yeah, because there's a lot of good pop culture... So many options. Top gun be a big one. Yeah, there'll be a lot of top gun, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, you sent me this. I remember this. Like, I just feel like, for Halloween it would be fun because I never wear a wig.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. You got all your hair up in that thing? Yeah, I did. We got him next year. Yeah, you definitely can do it next year. I got him next year. Was that in the Christina Aguilera costume? Yeah, I was just trying to. Yeah. That was a good one last year, too. I like Holland last year. I think you're going to be too old next year. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm going to be 26. No way. No way. That's wild that you're going to be 26. I know, right? Isn't that kind of crazy? But you being 26 sounds weird. Right. I just thought you weren't even 25, honestly.

I thought you were like 24. Well, it's just I've been here for so long. You start working when I was 19. It's like retire already, you know? My whole life, it feels like it's been here. I don't even know life before this. Actually, life before this for me was just high school. Yeah.

No, but even that picture I sent last night of myself five years ago when I was here. You didn't have a beer. I didn't have a beer. I was like, Who is that? Yeah, you... I looked so happy. No, she was...

Young and happy. Had my whole life in front of me. Friend, tell us something... Now I can't imagine... I can't imagine Noah without a beer. Tell us something good. Neither can I. That's why I'm scared to, like... I'm not a big, um...

Like, I... We talked about this yesterday with Kelly Kiegs. I hate, like, toxic positivity, right? Like, when people online are like, you have to be happy all the time. And, like, even if something bad happens, like, find the good in it. Like, I hate that. You think it's the weather? I just would like to hear

you let's get some happy out of you just for this podcast just to motivate the listeners I'll definitely get some happy out of me I feel like we should I don't want to talk about something happy and then go into like sad stuff okay so why don't we just let you be a downer and next episode

next episode come with something happening yes I wanted to bring up that well I wanted to bring up that Leslie Jordan passed. That's very sad. He was very funny. I know. I'm going to cut it where you're like, tell us something happy. Leslie Jordan died. Well, that would, that would

not be nice. And he, that was just like a surprise. 67. I think he had a bit of an accident, car accident. Well, they said that health emergency, apparently, yeah, something happened while he was driving and then he crashed.

So sad. He was awful. was one of those guys that I think in the pandemic, everybody loved his videos so much. He made people smile and he was so, so funny. And I think he was really, like, working on a lot of stuff. The day before he posed this song that he was working on, he was very upset about that. 67, young.

Yeah. No, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. It's young. Believe me, when I, when you see, you got to be way up there for me when there's like a passing for me, be like, you know what?

Full life. Like Betty White lived a full life. Yeah. 67 is young. So young. So young. So I'm, I was very sad about that. So 67 so young, what are you?

It's relative. You're a baby. It's relative. That's a thing that people make fun of Gary V for. It's like, how old are you? It's like, they'll say 40s. He's like, you're so young. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. You can start a business. Me and Gary V one and the same. It's relative. What was the other thing? Oh, Kanye. Which we don't want to talk about. We're not making it a whole topic

because he's been so disgraceful but Adidas finally dropped him. He's really just a piece of shit. Kanye. As they should have, it's should have. They took a little too long. I'm done with Adidas. It took me a little, it took them a little too long.

It clearly seemed like they had to think about it. They had to be like guilted in by every celebrity. Right, right. It went from Kanye being, like this was years ago, being like a little unhinged and then it was like oh connie is crazy oh but you know he has these things wrong with him to like okay that doesn't equate to just being like a garbage human being he just really is he has just gone i know keeps going down and down and down and people talk about cancel culture and and it's one thing like when when people are canceled and they're losing

career opportunities and jobs and things like that and then but they're There is like a remorse that is shown and a willingness to change and grow. That's one thing. This is, Kanye is just doubled down on everything he said over and over again. So it's like, no, there's no room for. There's no coming back for Kanye. There's no room there. There's no like flexibility of, oh, well, you know, he's he's listening.

No, he's not. He's not. He's not doing any of that. He doesn't care. He's selfish. He's throwing around terrible, terrible things. and he continues to use anti-semitic rhetoric and it's just no not good.

We can't be allowing that to happen. No. At all. There's no coming back from it for Kanye. So it is finally, like Adidas finally dropped him. I saw that Gap is actively trying to pull all of his merchandise from their stores to make sure that it's not being sold in their stores right now. So Adidas made the right decision.

It definitely took them longer than it should have. for sure and that's where that's where checks over stripes am I right yeah that's what I've always said yep and now I feel like so that was some uplifting news from yeah that was a really that's why I wanted to say that's why I wanted to do that Leslie Jordan's dead we can Connie was a piece of shit we it's yeah um but hey I hope everyone's having a great week besides that I really do as do I as do I as do I

We have What has made me happy Taylor Swift's album Was it because you didn't come on The Green Tea Tour No That has to be No I don't think Fran wanted to be

That has to be what's going on You can come on the next green tea tour We'll do a white tea tour I would love to do a white tea tour I saw some people saying that there's a You can do a pink Whitney Like substitute the pink Whitney For whatever's in the green tea shot

So it's like a green tea shot But with Pink Whitney Interesting So like Someone sent them in peach and lemon or something yeah i don't know how it works but we'll have to well that one i mean yeah you would have to i think you would still use the peach snobs with the pink whitney would be my guess peach and pink like yeah it's i mean it would basically be a white t shot you know what we should

all do green t shots at the uh boston show we should rea only rip shots these days so i so i think that's actually yeah when we went probably gonna happen When we went to Fran's apartment, she was like, you want to drink? And I was like, I'll just take a couple shots. That's cool. She was like, I'm going to make a drink. Yeah, I thought that was weird because I showed up later. And I thought we were just going to have a drink.

And you guys were just doing shots. I'm like, I guess I'll do. Me and Marty are big on just the shots. Like, we just get straight to the point. Yeah, I was like, I guess I'll, like, put my vodka in the freezer for you guys so that it's a little, a little chill. We're just really big on just getting right to the point. Like, we, it's weird.

We're very similar in the way that we don't enjoy. drinks at the bar we enjoy dinner drinks wine martinis he loves an old fashion but I like the taste of

I don't like you can't be ordering that at 2 a.m. No no that's the thing that's why you just go to shots whiskey ginger is a big one for me at a bar what's in a whiskey ginger just whiskey and ginger ale if somebody has a

I didn't know if it was ginger beer jingrail honestly I thought of was ginger ale. Maybe it's... No, it's probably ginger ale. If somebody has a recommendation for me on what they should be, what I, what drink I should be ordering at, like, a bar where, you know, it's, like, I'm getting after it. It's not like a classy type

of joint. Please let me know because I can't do a vodka soda, a vodka lemonade. Like, nothing's hits for me. Nothing gets me going. But what, what alcohol would you want to drink? Vaca. But sometimes I'll just have, like, a high noon because I'm like, okay, that'll do it, whatever. Have you ever had a paloma?

Yeah, those are really good. That's tequila. Yeah. Wait what? I thought of... But here's the thing. Tequila grapefruit. I love a margarita, but you're not ordering that at 2 a.m. You know what I mean? Yeah.

Like, I like dinner drinks. Do you ever feel scared to order like a complicated drink? Because I was at a bar last... What about like a vodka grapefruit? Vodka pineapple. I've had those and it's just like, I want to get to the point. I don't want to be... Like, you know what I mean?

Whoa. I'm trying to get fucked up. Like, I just don't want to be sitting here drinking this vodka lemonade. I'd rather have a lemonade and then, you know what I mean? Like, I love lemonade. I love iced tea. I love all these drinks separately. And it becomes tainted when you add alcohol into it for me.

So I'd rather just keep my shit separate. Keep them separate. I'd rather just keep it separate because... That's what stopped me from doing shots just for a long time in general, because I would chase with things that I like and then it ruined those things for me. Exactly. I used to do... I used to back in freshman year.

college we would just rip vodka shots and I would chase with die coke and then that ruined die coke bottle die coke for me for a while yeah I can see how that could happen yeah what was the first liquor you ever drank natty it was a beer oh liquor like her hard liquor uh vodka no like do you remember like it was like oh no no no no no no it was oh god I'm gonna have to fact check this with with Claire I want to say Malibu I think it was Malibu makes sense for a lot of people My first one was And this is why I have a hard time with coconut things

It was coconut Picardy before the Wisgleaf concert And I threw it up all over my backyard Yeah And I could see it Fireball was a big one We would take shots of Malibu Or we would make like Malibu and like a punch with like an orange juice

That's pretty good though On vacation No yeah It isn't like hard to go down. It goes down easy. No, it does, but when you just, when you drink a shit ton of it, then it begins, when you're younger, it starts to be hard. It's, yeah, oh, I can't even smell fireball now. I'll throw up. Yeah, no, I can't fireball. Yeah. That's a, that's a, that's a lot of those were. I didn't, I wasn't drinking when the teens around me were drinking four

locoes. I thought they were out of control. When I, like, ninth grade, Halloween and ninth grade, I definitely wasn't drinking yet. I, I, I would say, I started drinking at the end of ninth grade is probably when I've had my first like I'm going to start drinking but at the beginning going into high school I was nervous about it and that Halloween I remember a couple of the bad gals at school at the party were drinking four locoes and I was like oh my god no way and I was like sober I had I wish looking back that I maybe dabbled in the four local a little bit but never never did scared me no it didn't even taste good and it's just like It was terrible.

Dangerous. Terrible. So many bad mornings from that. All right. Let's get into today's topics for the show. We're going. Alcohol talk. Yeah.

We're crazy. We're going to be talking about Kaelin and Dean are engaged. It happened. Dean proposed, although he lost the ring. James Corden apologizes again on his show for being a rude son of a bitch. And Taylor Swift released her new music video. for a be jeweled. And we have cutting stems on this episode if you want to talk a little bit about Bachelor Paradise. So I know Trent, sorry. Yeah, I know Trent, unfortunately. He's a beautiful

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he'll get her a ring. And so I think that happened. I think Kalin did get him a truck. And then Dean got her a ring and then he lost the ring. Yeah. How do you lose the engagement ring? how? This is a absolute jarring story

because at first it was like I saw on Instagram first slide was Kaylin and Dina were engaged. It's like, yay! Oh, this is so excited. I'm happy for them. Like, this is a Paradise Success Story. We love a Paradise Success story. And I slid to the next slide and it was him

talking about it on his podcast that he does with Jared and they had an episode come out this week where he had talked about proposing and he was like, when this episode comes out, it'll have happened. So now I'm guessing all these outlets have confirmed that it has happened. It came first from people and now it's on everything.

But he had said on the show, it'll happen by the time this podcast airs. Maybe, maybe the day after it, maybe the day after it airs. So Kaylin definitely knew it was coming, I would say, waiting for the moment. But Dean got a four and a half carrot. Emerald Cut Diamond Ring. Sounds beautiful. That he lost. How do you lose that?

He says, he said it might be in the garage somewhere. Moral the story, don't put your engagement rings in the junk drawer. Which I'm guessing he said ingest. How much is a four and a half carrot? I think a lot of money. Right. I have no gauge on like how much rings cost. and carrots and all that.

I have no idea. Four and a half carrots is a decent... Like what kind of... How many carrots do you want your guy giving you? What should you expect? No, no, no. It's all on preference. No, but... There is, like...

Historically, isn't it, it's like a certain amount of month salary? I think it's like three-month salary, right? Something like that. They say three-month salary, but I think that's a four and a half... I mean, it's mixed, right? So I'm looking at this, let's see. It's known as a three-month salary rule. This looks, I mean, I think we're talking close to...

I think we're somewhere in the maybe like 80 to 100k range. Wow. Would be my guess from what I'm seeing. That is a lot of money. Yeah. A lot of... That's a lot of money. It's a lot of money.

If I had to guess, Kailen had a ring that she, like, wanted. That's almost too much money for me to be wearing on my hand to feel responsible for. Fair. Like that's so nice Like wow I would be worried I would be worried every day in my life That something was gonna be

Happened to this ring Like you know you just hit your hand on a door Like you can't like it's so Diamonds are hard And they're hard to find When you look online It's like They have a weird

How do you lose an 80,000 dollar ring? Oh my God It might even It could have been more than that Or less than that I don't know So the carrot is just about the size of the ring Mm-hmm.

Interesting. Interesting. See, like this website, the Diamond Pro, says, on average, the cost of a 4-carat diamond ring can range from $30,000 to $250,000 or more, depending on the diamond's cut quality, cut quality, clarity, and color of the four C's. So it could be, it really could be anywhere. And it's my guess, if I had to guess that Dean had a very expensive ring that he had purchased, And then he proposed with a placeholder ring that he said he had to go out and get another ring. Haley Bieber's is estimated to be around six to ten carrots.

Now that makes sense. A really Bieber's ring is hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. Yes. I would have thought it was like in the millions. It could be. It could be. It could be. It should be. If you're Justin Bieber, come on.

It could be a million dollars for sure. Yeah, he got, Dean got a placeholder engaged ring. He said it might be in the, like I said, might be in the rush away. He said the placeholder ring's not quite as nice as the first one. I hope they find the first one. Haley Bieber's ring is estimated to be around 500 to 600,000. Yeah. That's crazy.

Yeah. That is wild. She is like the most beautiful ring. I'm curious to see what Kailens looks like, though. I know. I want to see the mystery ring if it's ever located. How does he find it? Yes, to pray to St. Anthony.

It's, you know, it seems like it was, yeah, it seemed like it was somewhere in the house. You know when you know for sure that it's in the house. Yeah, but you got to find it before you. Yes, of course, of course, of course. But when you at least have the insurance that you're like, I know it is somewhere in the house, I just like really have to tear everything apart to find it.

Yes. Then. It's probably right in front of his face. Yeah. You know? Classic. You just can't find it. it. Well, either way, had a placeholder ring for them. These two crazy kids did it. They made it.

They made it out of paradise. Everybody had, everybody has words about the two of them. Everybody doubted them. Critics in their relationship, but they have, they have made it work the way that it works for them, you know? They seem to have a beautiful relationship, in my opinion. From the outside looking in. Yeah. Yeah. At least. Yep. They made it work, like we said, for a while now. Exactly. It has been years. It has been years. And, um, I wonder if they're going to like I wonder if they're going to wait to try and find the original ring before they.

That was a successful. I haven't seen them themselves post anything yet. That was a successful group of people from Paradise. Yeah, it was. Don't jinx them. I'm not jinxing them just by saying they're a successful group. You're not at all. Dylan and Hannah, right?

Same group? Yep. Who else? Kailen and Dean? Season 6 of Paradise. Yeah, Tisha and John Paul. really made it far. Oh, well, Katie did not make it.

And Demi and her girlfriend did not make it. So it's just Dylan and Hannah, I guess. Yeah. And Kailen and Dean. Yeah. All right, so maybe not so successful. I mean, for Bachelor. For Dylan and Hannah.

Or for Bachelor, like any couple same. Yeah, any success is good. Definitely. So we'll see where, we'll see when they post their Instagram announcement of engagement or if they post a picture or something, what... Yeah, we'll see if you can find... If they find this right.

You can find this damn ring. This is, I'll be honest, reading that was like the most... It was shocking, but also like, of course, for Dean, who has been very vocal on, like, proposing and marriage and everything for just to be like, yeah, you know, did it all. Got the ring, paid the big bucks. Can't find the ring. Yeah, if that was anybody else, I'd be like, what the fuck? But since it's Dean, he's just so on the go.

Yeah. You know? Yeah. Lids life on the go. It'll pop up somewhere, maybe eventually. They seem very easygoing to both of them. They do. They do. James Corden has apologized yet again for being just the worst, I guess, just being rude to, you know,

waiters and waitresses and restaurants, staff. And I don't even know how to keep up with this anymore. who he's apologizing to, who he's not apologizing to. Does he feel bad? He's apologizing for taking back an apology that he was like. Just shut up already, James Corden, because you apologized apparently. Then you took back your apology. And now you're apologizing again for taking back your apology.

Just be a normal fucking human being. It doesn't seem that hard. But he's losing his mind about it clearly because he's going back and forth. Yeah. So the top of the show Monday night, he's like, I got to talk about this. it seems in his mind that what he did he did not feel like he needed to apologize because he didn't like scream and shout and throw a fit what he claims he claims he made you know a snide comment a rude comment that he felt like wasn't that big of a deal really but now he's like looking back it was rude and I do. need to apologize and you know a little hair that was good. Thank you.

I got it. And he wanted to share this. So the original story from the Balzazar owner was there was drama with an egg with an omelet. It was like, you know, she wanted egg white omelette. It wasn't the whole thing.

James now claims that the dish was actually served the wrong way multiple times because she has a deathly food allergy. So it's like that's a new tidbit. Oh, now she has a food allergy.

That's why he made a comment. And then he said in the heat of the moment, he made a rude sarcastic comment about just cooking it himself, which is what the original story had stated as well. He said, it's a comment I deeply regret. I understand the difficulties of being a server. I work shifts at a restaurant for years. and that he then called Keith McNally, the owner.

He said, we had a good talk. He appreciated the call. I was happy that we got to clear the air, and I felt like we dealt with it privately. But by this point, the story was out there, and people were upset. And then that's also where he was saying, like, I felt like because I didn't make a massive scene,

it wasn't something that I really needed to explain. But now I do realize I have to apologize for it. and he apologized to the staff. He's like, I've got so much respect. I love that place. I hope I'm able to go back. And then he claimed that the other story, with the hair, was from 2014,

which doesn't match up with what the owner had said either. But it's actually... 2014 is a long time ago. Yeah, it is. It's crazy that this was continuing to be talking. and that he like and that if he this if he in i think it was new york times he did an interview or some it was a newspaper if in that interview or l.a times something if in that interview instead of being like if you actually just doubled down needing to apologize or i apologize

he wouldn't have had to do this at the beginning of his show but because in the interview he was like this is all silly like i blah blah blah they were everyone was like oh wow, he really doesn't realize what he did was wrong and then it came back to bite him in the ass again. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, he actually has to make a full-blown statement on his late-night show. I still think he probably doesn't care. I feel like he's going on there being like, I'm going to do this just because everyone's mad at me. And then he doesn't. He acts like he's sorry.

But really, James Corden, is that a nice guy? I think you're probably right about that. Period. We don't know him, but I'm catching a little elli. vibe from James Corden. Oh, I have a late night show and everyone likes me and thinks I'm so fun and cuddly. Well, we don't really think that anymore, James Corden. We think you're a monster. It did seem like he had to force his way. When I was watching the clip, I was like, he probably hates that he has to do this right now. Right before he's getting on stage, he's like, these fucking

cunts. Yeah, because that's how they speak. Sorry, I know you don't like that word. That's why I said it. Smiling through the pain of having to apologize. He's not listening. James Corden is going back there. calling everyone cunts before he gets on stage. Oh, he's a person that I could easily see saying that word like second nature. He's from. He's British. He's British. Cunts in Britain is like saying hey. Well, it's not only saying hey, but they say it.

It's a term. It's a term of endearment. It's not. Well, it's the same thing with. No, it is. I live there for a while. I don't recall a lot of people saying cuntill. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I think people do, I think, are you thinking about when you joke around. Oh, you know. you, oh, you, how they call cigarettes a fag. Yes.

Oh my God. Okay, keep going. I'm just saying like, yes. There are things that are set over there, like, commonly. Even that I didn't really hear it. No, they say they definitely do use it much more than it's not, it's not as bad, but I'm, maybe I'm wrong. British slang. What's another one?

I'm pretty sure. Listen, bullocks. Bullocks? Yeah, don't quote me on that, but I'm pretty sure they use cunt, like, to your friend. like oh you cunt like i think it's like and i think they just throw it out there okay i don't know about that if you're if you know let us know because i am pretty sure that's the case and listen i've never been there you know i'm dying to get to london but i'm pretty sure they throw out cunt but i feel like if they if that was true then wouldn't they be saying it on love island all the time

maybe maybe they're told that that one doesn't fly on on love island let me look this up is you know not a term of endearment. Like I know that, like, they use it in, maybe in the context I see it. Like, they just use it. I feel like they use it in soccer matches. Like fans yell it at players that they hate. Not only do the British use that word in a sexual or simply offensive context,

but they use it as a term of endearment. Because, like, you know, when you're joking around with your friend, you call, oh, you bitch. Like, it's not like I'm calling you a bitch as for deemant, but like, I'm not actually calling you a bitch. You know what I'm saying? So like for them, when they say to a friend, oh, you cunt, like, their friend's not going to be like,

I hate, like, they're going to laugh it off and go, yeah, I'm such a con. So I think that James Corden is, he's probably throwing it. That's a word that I'm sure is in his vocabulary. Of course. Of course it is. And he's, you know what he's calling that waitstaff. Yeah, he's not going back to Baldassar if I had to take a guess.

In his speech, he's like, oh, I hope I can go back. It's such a great restaurant. I love the place and the waitstaff and the manager and everybody. Once the show ending, because it's ending soon, right? Late, late show. I don't know. Is it ending? Yeah, because I remember there's a big announcement, like he's moving back to Britain.

It's like, yeah, get the hell out of our country. I don't know. Oh, he is. He is leaving. Apparently, Cunt is really big in Australia. Oh, I could see that. God, there's so much cooler than us. I feel like you have just been on a roll.

You like enjoy the sound of it coming out of your mouths. You've said it 12 times. It just feels so freeing when you're talking about it, right? Like I don't use it in my everyday vocabulary, but I feel free right now. You know what I mean? When you say anything that's not, well, that's not true. I was going to say, when you say anything, it's not directed at someone. There are definitely words that you just can't say.

No. No. But that one is not one of them. That one you can say. That's why I say my toe. Right, but it's just not one that comes out of my mouth. So it's like right now I feel free. Makes me my toe hurt less. Makes me uncomfortable.

Like if I just said, Ouch, like that wouldn't really. Ouchy! He's leaving it. He's leaving summer 2020. From late show. Wait, when? I'm going to do that the next time I stub my tone and see how it feels.

Ouchy. He will depart ahead of summer 2023. Good. See? you fool. I used to like when I was in high school, I love talk shows and stuff and I used to watch James Corrin Show all the time and like

I love Carpo karaoke. Yeah, I used to watch a lot of the YouTube clips. I love carpal karaoke. I love carioke. I look back and I'm like, I still watch all the ones he does with Harry Styles have you ever seen the... I mean, the Paul McCartney one's like one of the best videos ever. Have you ever seen the Jimmy Fallon, Bradley Cooper, Elephant Man, YouTube clip? Which is one of the funniest

that they had to cut from the show where Jimmy Fallon and Bradley Cooper for 20 minutes can't get through the segment because they can't stop laughing and it's like they're just like really high or something. And the two of them cannot. It's a very funny clip. I highly suggest people watch it. The thing is Jimmy Fallon just laughs at everything now. So it's like. But Bradley Cooper and Jimmy Fallon in that clip.

Yeah. That's funny. So he'll be done next year. Who do you think is taking his spot? Who knows? Could be anybody. Who knows? I feel like they kind of struggle with...

I mean, he had definitely, like, he's one of the more successful late, late shows. No, no, definitely. I feel like it's hard to get people to... Stay up. Not even stay up. He has so much success, so much digital success, just like, as far as, like, YouTube views and all those things.

Like, just the... I was just looking at an article, Just the Adele Carpooracrogy alone has like 250 million views. So it's all of those. But that's also like all based on the guests. And I don't know. I feel like you could feel somewhat. Like is it James Corny?

Like is he that good at doing Carpal karaoke? Like I feel like people hate him in it. No. It's just about, no. A good segment and he made the segment. You know what I mean? When you start the segment. When Carpul karaoke first came out, I think everybody loved him doing it.

I still watch the ones he. It got, it's. was like spun, it got turned into like a whole Apple TV series. That's the same thing with lip sync with Jimmy. Yeah, there's not. So I think that, I don't know, it's just hard. I feel like there's always like a hard time filling a late night seat when someone has it for a long time. Yeah.

There's an adjustment period for always of people getting used to stuff. But yeah, maybe that's the end of us hearing about the omelet, but. Unless Keith McNally has a rebuttal. I'm actually tired of hearing about the Instagram. I hope they're done. Taylor Swift was on late night, late show with

with the Tonight Show, not a late show. The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon. And she talked about the release of bejeweled video. People were wondering what the new video was going to be. Taylor had posted on Instagram earlier in the night that it was bejeweled. She told Jimmy Fallon that there is a psychotic amount of Easter eggs in this video, that there's a whole PDF file.

The video is great. I think she's been putting out great videos. The Bejeweled video is a little bit of a take on... That's not a little bit. It's a take on Cinderella of... Tell herself being the Cinderella. The Heim sisters are the stepsisters. Laura Dern plays her stepmother.

I love Laura Dern. Fantastic. Bring back big little lives. We need a season three. Dita von Tess. I don't know how to say her. I think that's how you say her name, right? Sure.

She is her, like, fairy godmother. She calls her fairy goddess. Jack Antonov's in the video. It's a great video. It's more, you know, storytelling. Great acting. She's talked about sending Laura Dern, like, a scene being like, you win on this?

Great, great choice of all people to be like, you know what? I really want Laura Dern to be in this music video. She's not going to say no. You think anybody would say no to being in the Taylor Swift music video? No. They would have to be an idiot. Right? Like it's like, she's like Oscar winner, Lord.

Right. Yeah. Well, that's what I said. Even Katie Perry said yes. Yeah. Someone would say no. Maybe. But so tons of Easter eggs.

I think we're basically really leaning towards the fact that Speak Now is going to be the next re-record. This video was released on October 25th. Speak Now was released October 25th 2010. It's been 12 years since that came out. She's been fixated at 12. Midnight. It's been an ongoing theme.

And the you could have told there was a ton of these stories you could have told it right from the beginning in the opening scene the instrumental from Enchanted is playing just like a string version which is from the Speak Now album

Laura Dern was so good on this I love this and Laura Dern has a line where she says speak not but she really enunciates that line and I this song grew on me so this morning yeah I was listening to the whole album again

because like I said I need these songs to grow on me and I have never been so sure that you're on your own kid is my number one I am so sure about that and be jule grew on me question grew on me they're all growing on me more so I was very happy to see this music video and also Cinderella was my favorite princess growing up my favorite princess movie yeah It looked like when she gets into this elevator and there's all these buttons and I think all like the floors are correlated to her albums that she's released. She hits the third floor and it's like a purple button. She is Taylor wears like a purple dress on the cover of Speak Now. Speak Now is her third album that she ever released.

and then Fifth Floor was 1989 I think there's just like a ton of Ne de Vontes so did she switch Taylor's sitting at three

o'clock on the clock at one point there's a big clock that she's sitting on set to three o'clock and she has hair pins in her hair

at one point that have an S and an N people like that can also be speak down I mean at this point I think she's just telling everyone

at this point I think it's just like hey the next one speak now It wasn't even like one little hint. If it's not speak now, I don't know what she was doing with this video. Has to be speak now. I think she was just letting everyone know, hey, it's speak now, but I don't feel like making any more announcements. So just here you go.

Exactly. And I think right as the video is ending, you can hear a little bit of long live playing as well, which we were listening to you before. It is such a good song. I love long live. but that I don't speak now album is awesome I love to speak now album I'll have to when she releases the new album I think I'll listen to it

I hope it comes soon I love the re-records maybe next year She just keeps putting out music huh She can't stop Can't stop won't stop This is the thing I feel like she loves putting out new music And then Where does she find the time

She's gotta get her She's she I think she has them all done What you think she's recorded all of them I think she did it all already I might be wrong in that But I think during the pandemic She like banked a lot of her new album I mean banked a lot of the Taylor re-recorded

How many are left? Does that need to be? Speak now 1989 1989 Her original Taylor Swift, the debut album Do you think she's Oh, I was going to say she going in order

But reputation Was reputation That was still under? I think that was still under That was so recent. I think those are... That was a question. It was 2017, right?

I think... Fuck. But folk war and Evermore weren't, right? Oh, no, no. No, and lover, I don't think was either. But I think she does have to... Do you think Scooter Braun's kids like Taylor? Like, what if they just like Taylor's music?

Yeah. She might. She has four albums left to re-record. It's her original album, speaking. Now 89 and reputation. Maybe I'm just making that up. I don't think she has. I think she's done a decent amount of them, though.

There's a Reddit thread from May of somebody being like, do you think Taylor has finished re-recording all albums? I think, yeah, that's probably true. She's probably not done with all of them, but my guess at this point is she's probably done with Speak Now and maybe 1989. And then she's got to do reputation and her first. the Taylor Swift album, just Taylor Swift, which will be very interesting to hear because, of course,

that one's going to sound the most different by far. But I'm pumped for, I'm pumped for speak now. I think that's definitely where that's coming. I don't know if anybody has any hints on when that will be released. But I hope it comes out soon because I love when she does the re-records. It gives me a reason. You know what you were saying, like, you knew Taylor-Swold. Swift comes out and you just want to listen, you go back to the ones that you like, like,

you're back and listen to 1989. When the re-records come out, I'm like, oh, this is just a reason to listen to one of these albums over and over again. It makes me fall in love with the album all over again. I can't wait for the 1989 one to come out. I really can't. I feel like she's teasing you. She's just, it's waiting so long for that one.

It's okay. It's okay. I still listen to the old one, although I'm not trying to get money to Scooter Braun, but I, I know, I can't help myself. It's hard. It's hard. It's hard. and it's such a good album. I have to listen to it. I'm sorry. Yes. So I don't know how many other, I'm hoping there are more music videos. I think there will be. We'll see what else she releases. But that'll pretty much confirm. Speak now is the next one for sure. Whether you're cozying up on your couch or you're out tailgating on a Sunday, Saturday, college football, regular football, regular football, regular football, NFL football. You get the point. Either way,

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We have Kelly Kiggs. We do not have Trent. That's son of a bitch. He is in Florida. He's six feet under. Living the life. I guess. I guess.

I guess. And steak at Tiger Woods restaurant. Whatever. Like, whatever. What a piece of shit. Yeah, I know. Is he with Tiger Woods? Oh, cool.

Probably not. You're so cool, Trent. Whatever. We don't care. Oh, man. But we are here to talk about Bachelor in Paradise Monday and Tuesday. General thoughts, both great episodes. Very good.

Tuesday was great. Wednesday was definitely. I mean Wednesday. Monday was a set-up episode. Tonight's episode was really good. I'm a big fan of when couples reunite or like, or that there's always a drama. It's like the recoupling. They did the same thing with like the recoupling and love violent. It wasn't as dramatic.

I do have some complaints, but we can start off with how we felt about Monday's episode, which to me felt like a set-up episode. I agree completely. I think that that Jesse Palmer had a lot to do with Instigations. some of the anxiety the girls were having. I feel like the girls were feeling fine. They were all sticking to their guns. Like, oh, I'm going to, you know, I'm not really hooking up with people.

I'm not really doing whatever. And then when Jesse Palmer came through and was like, we're shaking shit up. And things are different over there. They were freaking out. And then they all kind of changed their tune and started talking to other guys. In that same breath, Lace went over back to the beach to cause mayhem. And do you guys think that Lace is getting a Bachelorette at it? It's the first time that I've thought that.

No. No. I don't know. I feel like they interviewed every single person on the beach afterwards being like Lace just really deserves love. Like, Lace just, she's so great and someone is out there for her. Like there were so many people being like, someone's out there for her. Someone's out there for her. That's the first time I've ever thought, like, are they trying to make her The Bachelorette someday?

That would excite me. Like, I think that's interesting. She's different. She's a different person. But I don't think she's going to be the Bachelorette. I never thought that just based on how people were like reacting to her being so upset and leaving. and like because Rodney was coupled up with a what's their name, Eliza? Eliza.

I did think it was a bit, well, not strange, but I was like, in my opinion, more so it was the rejection rather than it being Rodney. Like, I don't know if Lace and Rodney really had that strong of a connection. I just think her being rejected by him is what made her so upset. I didn't think that they were like, end all be all. I think you're spot on. There was a couple scenarios where I felt like either producers, or the interview set up made, they tried to, like, really make drama out of things

that maybe, like, they didn't get the dramatic reaction that they necessarily wanted from the contestants. So they turned it into, like, well, let's just play all these interviews of people being, like, laces is dramatic, and she's going to be emotional, and it's going to be this big blow-up, like, she was sad. Yeah. And she cried.

but like she like she was just like she took the like it was a breakup that she was like upset about and then and she left but it wasn't like she didn't start throwing things like it just feels like and they we can talk about it Tuesday with cheney too it just feels like I don't know what they're doing in these interviews or like how they want of like they're almost building up the reactions to these breakups so much in these interviews that when the breakups actually happened it's like that was a pretty normal reaction to someone saying like, hey, I picked somebody else. She was upset, but it didn't seem like she was really making that big of a deal out of it. But the girls are still Ms. They're missing their guys. Jesse Palmer comes. Basically, they say nobody has a connection

with Rick or Olu, so they just get sent home. Boy, to those Boy, boy, did they get the short end of the stick of the... Brutal, brutal. You probably get excited, like, oh, we got cast on Paradise, we get to go down. That was their entire experience. I always thought Rick was hot.

I don't know what the deal. Nobody thinks nobody likes Rick? Is he a weird about? No, people do like Rick, but... Who said he was like a vampire? Was that you? I don't know. There's something...

They seem like they were getting a little tipsy. For sure. I want to address the wine chat. We could talk about the wine chat was tonight's episode. Oh, was it? I'm pretty sure. Or was at the end? It was at the end of this one.

It was at the end of this one. Because of Chenet and yelling at Genevieve. Yeah, yeah. Genevieve and Chenet also were definitely getting a little tipsy and for sure. Having a good time. Yes. them are like newfound besties um but the new yeah the new relationship coming out of this is kate revealed to logan that she is interested in him that she doesn't really want anything with

jacob she wants him which of course immediately leads to kate getting a date card she explains to jacob how she's feeling um she wants to take logan so she asked logan on the date and then Logan has to go tell Sarah like, oh, you know, I'm going to go on this date. Sarah also handled that pretty well. She was like, okay, I mean, yeah. That sucks. Yeah. Yeah, Sarah didn't really care.

She seemed mad, which is valid. Yeah, she seemed like, what the fuck, but that was pretty much it. I want to say it right now, and I'm going to say it multiple times in this recap, I don't like Kate at all. And Kate's a fucking bitch. I think that she is being super manipulative. I think that she's being, she's acting strange and I don't trust her.

I like when you speak your mind. No, it's true. I don't trust her. And I thought I would like her at first. And I know that she, we'll talk about it more with Chenet, but I know that she has bad blood towards Chenet from their own season.

But like, read the room. No one else is treating Chenet like that. Like clearly she's different or whatever. And her whole thing about being like, I just need, I would like to believe that. And she just kept going on like that. And I think that she looks like a fucking asshole this whole time. Every move that she made,

going out with Logan and having those conversations like, okay, so you're going to go talk to Sheenay, I'm going to talk to whoever, and we're good on this, right? It was almost like a threat. I was like, this is bizarre, and you're very much doing gameplay, and I don't trust you at all. I think you're right about how she treated Chenet

like how Sheenae came across on the original season she was on, rather than how Sheenae is acting at this very moment. Which is fair to come in with a little bit of like a chip on your shoulder, preconceived notions, whatever, but when you are, having conversations with everybody, ask them about this, and they all tell you like, no, no, no,

she's a different person, give her a chance, and you still refuse, and you're trying to... It almost makes me think that she went after Logan on purpose because of Chenay. Like, all of her actions leading up to it. Everything she does seems premeditated and calculated. Calculated. And she ain't there for the right reasons.

Nope. No. So they go on a date together, which now they're, like, very confident in their relationship. That date ends, and they're both like, oh, I'm all in on Logan. I'm all in on Kate. like they've forgotten about everybody else. This is a pair, magical pair now it seems. Kate is a tad older than Logan is, which...

Yeah, Logan's 26. She's like 35, I think. She's 33, I think. Yeah. Okay. And, but they both, they are both in the, you know, I think the San Diego, L.A. area. Do you think the San Diego people have, like, a big group chat where they call themselves, like, the San Diego group? Definitely.

Probably. It's probably like the SD crew. I bet anything there's a group chat called And there's like little animals to like represent

a little zoo For sure For sure Yeah The other The other couple That could be shifting is Johnny

and Victoria Victoria See Alex from Rachel Lindsay's season She's like Look this guy On paper is everything I want

He's a little He's older He's ready for a family He's ready to have A serious relationship So she She's hot He's rich

Yes She's just like This could be this could be something. She's warming up to that idea. She gets a date card and takes him on a date. They have a great date.

I think she is struggling to, like she likes Johnny a lot. But this guy, this beautiful man right in front of her who she keeps repeating is her type and all these things. I thought it was weird though

that she said, not weird because I've been there, but weird to say it to his face that she's like, you are the kind of person that I usually date so much so that like, you remind me of some of my ex-boyfriends.

You look like my ex-s. And I'm like, don't tell, like, I mean, he'll figure that out, whatever. But they'll be like, you look like all my exes and whatever. And in that instance, it makes me think like, oh, well, then, like, go for Johnny. Johnny's someone different. Johnny's, like, maybe you need to be pulled out of your comfort zone. Because clearly all the guys that look like Alex, you know, and maybe act like him, haven't worked before.

So try something different. But the part about him being ready for a family, that seems to be her priority. She wants to be engaged and she wants to have kids. Yeah. And Johnny's a little wishy-washy on that. Wow. Wow. Five?

I may have missed. That may be misspoke, but I think she said you want to five kids. So expensive. Brittany. It's just so expensive. Like, yeah, no, it is. It is. Brittany is going for Tyler, which is definitely where.

Hey, but good for her. You don't have to have them. No, that's great. That's great. You don't have to have them. You don't have to have them. You know, that's what she's got to marry somebody rich if she wants five kids. Maybe she is.

Herself. I don't know if she is. Is she? I don't know. Maybe. She could be. She could be. I'll call her up, I'll ask. I'll text her. She's my best to know.

I'm like a Victoria F stand. So am I. Oh, no, no, that's fine. She wants that five kids, like the idea of I'm too practical for that, you know. You're right. I think too much about the bad. You don't even want one kid. No. Because it's expensive. Five sounds insane to you. Five sounds nuts. Honestly, five sounds insane to me too.

Five times out of your vagina? Oh my God. Yeah, yeah. I'm like more like a two, three, girl. Yeah, that makes sense. Not one. Only children stink. No, only child. I'm sorry if you are an only child. Can't be an only child. They don't all stay. Even if you have an only child, you've got to have, like, cousins or something.

You got to have people around. You need your only child to interact with people because let me tell you, they are selfish people. Oh, yeah. Tommy smokes right upstairs. Yeah, that's selfish son of a bitch. And Glenn, Glennie balls and Tommy Swenger both are a child. They are like to post your children for only children. Don't get me started.

But I love them to death. Oh, yeah, for sure. They're like my best friends. For sure. But they're brats, anyway. So, um. But if you're an only child watching this, I love you and I respect you. and I respect your parents for making that decision.

Just don't be a brat. Just work extra hard not to be a brat. Anyway, so what do we think about Victoria F's eventual decision? What do we think she's going to choose generally based on that conversation? I don't know. She seems very iffy on Alex still, I think. I think she's in that situation where, like, she has all the feelings for Johnny. It's like her heart's telling her Johnny, but her brain says Alex.

So I think eventually she'll probably listen to her heart. She was like, she's like, I have breakfast with Johnny. I do life with Johnny. I was like, you've been there for one week. Doing life is not exactly vacation in Mexico. Right, you guys have not done life in any way. No one's done life. You guys done vacation.

Yeah, you've done vacation and you've had breakfast together. That's what I'm hearing so far. The episode ended with the, with Chenet getting upset about Brittany being with Tyler. Brittany and Tyler definitely have a connection. They're making out in the pool. Genevieve sees them. She's like, I'm not, I'm not telling today. Yeah, I'm not telling you.

Yeah, I'm not telling you. Um, and that's where they left off going into Tuesday's episode where Jesse Palmer comes in, Tuesday, tonight's episode. They are brought back to the beach. Mm-hmm. In waves, it seems. It's like, Jesse's like, you don't have to all go together. You can go differently. They sent certain people in at certain times.

I love that, by the way. It's also out of order, like completely out of order. When Jill, I think it was when Jill left, like, Serene was. they're comforting her, but they hadn't shown Serene come to the beach yet. I'm like, yeah. There's, they've been, editing's been a little messy, I have to say. I've got my, like,

I've got my, like, what is it? Your radar's up? Yeah, of some, they're messing with this show a little bit. We, we've talked about it before. Especially on tonight's episode, it felt like there was, like, the sound was off at certain points. I felt like Sheney and Kate's argument. There was times when, like, Kate's voice sounded different.

and they weren't showing her mouth, and then they cut to her, and then she's actually talking. And the same thing with Jacob and Jill's breakup. I don't know. There was times where I felt like this is being chopped up way too much to try and make this be more dramatic than it is.

Because I don't know if production was like, oh, we thought we were going to have some big dramatic moments with the switch, and maybe they didn't get them. Yeah. So they get everyone in the interviews to hype it up. We'll talk about it.

But let's get to the people who reunite. They also do, in last night's episode, Shanae having the conversation with Genevieve and Jill and who is what was with Jill drinking with Jill Adam and the third girl I think it was not Brittany because she was making out with Tyler oh there's one Serene Serene Serene yeah yeah okay serene and Jill listening at the door for Sheney and Genevieve that listened to conversation yeah sounded like it was made in post like they were like they were just piping in sound where they both were like I just can't believe him.

Yeah. I can't believe him either. Like, it sounded fake as fuck. And I was like, this is a weird. This is weird. The first couple to reunite, which we'll talk about, is Genevieve and Aaron, which was, it was very sweet. It was so happy.

Aaron was so emotional. I cried this whole episode, by the way. Aaron pulled a little bit of a fast one. Like, he, like, he, like, he knew. He went for some dramatic effect there. He made her sweat a little. He made her sweat a little bit, but boy, was she happy. So, they were very happy.

And I cried. and I didn't know I liked them, but apparently I do because I was crying at them reuniting, I guess. You just love love. I do, I really do. Her relief was so real and so clear on the screen that it was like, how could you, how could you not feel emotional? Right, and like the way she cuddled up to him.

Yes. I love that. And he was holding her and kissing her head. Oh, I'm going to cry again. I'm going to cry again. It was so nice. It was just, it was really tough. There's just no better feeling.

I have talked shit about Aaron nonstop on the show specifically, and I thought that was the sweetest moment. I've never, like, I didn't know he had it in him. I didn't know he could be so sweet. This is the sweetest we've ever seen him. It was. I know, I know. You see it.

You see it. And she was so, like, she just was so relieved. And she was, like, so cute and cuddly. And he was like, and she was like, she was like, I had so much anxiety the whole time. And she came back and he's like, no, I didn't hang out with anybody. I had, like, played sharks and minnows in the pool. And she was like, you did. Yeah.

Oh, it's just nice to trust. Yeah. The chenet. That was very sweet guys. Aw. It was just. It's good. Yeah, we're good.

Yeah, we're all right. The, um, the Chenet, Chenet comes, she talks to Logan. Logan breaks up with her. Logan, Logan definitely tried to go the route of, well, let's not forget you were making out with James. Which was a cop-out bullshit. Which, honestly, bad route to go.

Like, he should have just said, he should have just went with, you know what, I have a better connection with Kate, and that's it. Don't try and play the blame game of like, well, how's just any different from, what you were doing. It's like, no, just own up to the fact that you like Kate more. Everyone will respect you more instead of being like, well, you know, remember how you made

me feel? Like, it's like, okay. Also, remember when they left? I thought we were past that. Remember when they left? It was either him or was somebody else, but I'm pretty sure it was him saying some shit like, oh yeah, well, Chenet did X, Y, Z. And I think that she's worried that she's going to get a taste of her own medicine.

Who said that? Wasn't that Logan, who said it about her? Which I thought was fucked up. Like, don't, like, it's like he went in there ready to, like, get back at her. Yeah, so this is where things escalated. Go ahead. Sorry. As much as Jacob, I'm not really a fan of him,

it's more respectful on his part that he was able to be like, I just realized that I don't have a connection with you that I'm looking for because I already felt a strong connection with her, although she has moved on to somebody else, which is Logan, that showed me that I don't have what I want to have with you, which is like the most honest way to go about it. Totally. Right?

Jacob could have been the guy, like the Love Island guy who's like, oh, you know, I experimented, but now that you're back. Yeah, like, oh, it made me realize I like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, which I'm glad he didn't because, right. And Jacob seems like a genuinely nice guy, I will say that. He's kind of a meathead. He's kind of like a dupist, whatever. But whenever he gets serious, I feel like his words are true.

And he seems nice. The Chenet obviously was upset, and so she calls Kate Rood. and loud and talks about the woman tell all and calls her disgusting and she says a lot of mean things there are mean things she's upset she calls says a lot of mean things she calls Logan trash man voice she's got

she's got a whole long list of things Logan is trash that's clear um but it just felt like too many times my life I know me too I don't fucking don't don't get me started yeah I'm sorry sorry sorry it's better for none of us do no none of us do

I have I told about how my mom's I have one of my mom's friends made a comment like that one time about my voice. It's like, oh, her voice is so deep, so manly. I was like, what the fuck? Sit up to my mom. And my mom told me that. I was like, what the fuck? Listen.

It's fucked up. And I was like, really, bitch? Yeah. I think you have one of the most soothing voices I've ever heard. It's sultry. Yes. You have a great voice. Thank you.

You have a great speaking voice. But it is a bad voice. All this goes back to what I was saying about the interviews. All the interviews, it just feels like everyone's going just a few feet too far. I don't know why. I don't know who's pushing them. But Aaron's like, Connor the Shenato, and she needs to be

put in a padded room and locked up and get a new personality, and she needs to be shipped off into space. It seemed like a lot, and I get it, Chenet was not being the nicest person in that situation. But the weeks that we've had Chennai on this show, she has not been awful. Like, she has not,

like, she's got, if she and Genevieve can get along, like, then if Genevue can give her a second chance some of these other girls are not willing to do that obviously Kate's like she was awful to us on our season traumatized all of us terrorized all of us and it's like Kay you were on the season for

like you were not on the season for that long you were not traumatized on the season yeah so it just felt like I felt like Kate really I felt like Kate really used that as a defense of like well I and then she said oh I wrote it down

Kate said she had some had a twisted satisfaction that she triumphed over Chenet. And I was like, okay, red flags all across the board here. Like, why would you even say that on camera? Because now everyone's going to think that you just went for Logan because you wanted to take him from Chenet. Completely.

And I still think that. I fully think that. Because she was chilling with Jacob, whatever. And then like a lights switch. She was like, actually, I hear Chenet is like with Logan. I want Logan. And then she took him on a date, buttered him up, came back and was like, you know, handshake, we're doing this.

I'm in love with you with a connection. is I've never had anything like this, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I watched the previews for next week. Yeah. And Kate's philandering. She's running around with other people. I know. So what the fuck is she doing?

I know. Maybe she just was like, I'm going to get Chenet eliminated. I don't know. I don't like the motives there. I felt like we're getting a little messy. Production's just getting a little messy on how they're trying to make this show. Yeah. With the interview, it just felt like a lot of piling on for something that wasn't such.

Right. That wasn't worth the piles. on. Yeah, exactly. We talked so much shit about, or at least I did for sure, talked shit about Chennai when she was on Clayton's season. Yeah. And she was a nightmare for sure. But we've said consistently, on Paradise,

she does seem to have turned over a new leaf. I think that she's lovely. Look, she shouldn't be telling me. Disgusting. No. It's like that wasn't lovely. No, that was not nice. She was hurt.

She was hurt. And she's not acting immature. Aaron said at one point this season, you know, hurt people, hurt people. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. And I do think that. that played a role in that. It just felt like a lot of commentary from everyone on something that doesn't have anything to do with you.

And she didn't really even blow up. Like, everybody was expecting to blow up. And then what bothered. They're calling her Shenato. I know. Parents or a hurricane. It's like, what bothered me.

She didn't yell once. She yelled at Logan. Exactly. But she walked away from Kate. She barely yelled him. She just told him like, you're being disrespectful because he was. And that was also Kate's fault. Kate, like, came down the fucking thing.

Yeah. And was like, are you good? Let's sit right here, literally next to Chenet and make out. and have everybody up in the thing be clapping for us. Everyone's an asshole. I just, like, I hated that. Everyone acted, like, such a dick in that moment, and it just bothered me so much.

And when Chenet addressed it with Logan, it was like, she actively avoided doing those things with James back in the time when she, like, was hooked up with James for five seconds. Yeah. And he doesn't have the respect. And so her calling him disrespectful, I think, is completely valid. Something that bothered me so much was immediately after that when Kate came down to the beach and was, like,

badgering her to fight with her. Yeah. Like, she came in and she was like, I don't want to talk to. you like it's fine whatever like i don't want to talk i don't want to talk and she just kept following her badgering her getting in her getting in her face and i was like kate drop it like stop trying to poke the bear leave her alone she clearly doesn't want to have this blow up on tv leave her alone yeah drove me nuts yeah um we can go through these ones quickly jill we talked about she gets sent home jacob stays but she's like you know what i'm out of here not gonna work she's very upset

i put in my list uh jill's eyebrows are nuts on the inside like she looks like an emoji when her when she's Sad. She has a good sad face. Her eyebrows go this way. Like, literally like a cartoon and I've never seen anything like it. It's amazing. Andrew and Brittany talk, like, they both are like, hey, it's early stages. Brittany says you had a connection with Tyler.

I think they're both like, fine. Whatever, you can respect that decision. Sure. Brandon and Serene reunite. These two are just in love. They're just like running into each other's arms. They're talking about how much they love each other. They're adorable, beautiful. They're the only hope I have in this season right now currently.

at this moment. And then Victoria and Johnny, she's very happy to see him. They reunite. But then she starts to tell him about Alex. And he gets upset. He gets more upset, he seems, over this checklist that she brings up.

Because he's like, look, you're Victoria. Everyone's going to want to take you on a date. I get that. But like, is there some lists that I don't fall under? Like, what are you saying here? He doesn't like the fact that she has a list at all. Yeah. She thinks like, or he said something like,

he's like, don't you want to be in love with someone? Right. And not worry about like if they're checking off your list. Like, well, you're just checking off a list and you're not worried about whether or not you're in love with them. Yep.

And, and this was, Victoria asked him about his career goals and he was very flustered. Yep. That's tough. He was like, I mean, uh,

well, like, what, like, she's like, I'm not asking you like to do algebra. I'm just, yeah,

yeah. What do you want to do with your life? It's just like, hey, like, where do you, what, what are your career goals.

How old is Johnny? 25, 26. Oh. He's young and she's... But she's only 28. I say she's not old either. She's 29 now. She's 29.

She's a year old... But she's still young. She's not... I just looked up her birthday yesterday. She's like almost a year older than I am. Oh, okay. So she's young. And she just wants...

Want some kind of path because she is very focused. I respect that she's very focused on like life after Paradise. And she's really thinking about like who... Which of these guys can I... see after this. So she asked a question, but they're clearly trying to work their things out. The other guys

come down. Tyler, Alex, Adam, come down. I'm like, happy for Adam. They must have been like, hey, we flew this guy from Australia. We got to... Somebody get them. You know what I mean? He's got to stay here for a few more days, so he's not

just on a return flight back to Australia two days later. I mean, he seems great. Like, I feel like the The Monday episode was the first time we really got to hear him, like, chit chat and have fun. The wine chat, I still can't get over it. I mentioned it before. He's, like, ready to gossip with everybody. He's, like, just being conversational and sweet and nice.

And I feel like he, I hope there's somebody there for him. So I think next week we're going to see some drama on which way Victoria goes. And then also, Jysenia had pulled Tyler for a conversation at the end of the episode, too, where Brittany was like, what the, the f... That's like, I feel like that was a classic Jensenia move. She was doing shit like that last season. I knew there was something about Jacenia. I was like, what's the thing about Jessenia? She does shit like that.

Yeah, she just like moves quietly a little bit. So she pulled Tyler. I did think it was weird when she, when I, like, obviously, Brittany and Andrew had like an amicable split where they're like both pursuing now Tyler and Jasenia. But I do think it was like a little soon when they're at the bar and Descena takes Tyler way. And Brittany, first of all, kept like, was clearly upset about it, kept making jokes about it. But the one joke, she was like, get your girl.

like whatever. I was like, okay. This is all a little too comfortable. Like, this is weird. I don't know. Okay, let's answer some questions. Okay, let's go for some questions. This little cups, so cute. What would we want them to do differently with the switch next year? That's a good one.

They have to, like, this is, okay, so Serene said this, which I think is valid. She tweeted about this. She was like, it was very jarring because they already have such limited time and they did this. I don't, I think production struggled here to pull more episodes out of filming in a very similar amount of time as they normally felt. Like, they have to film for longer. Yeah.

Or else it doesn't work in my mind. Like, you're not going to get Brandon and Serene's every season where, like, it only takes them a few days to be totally locked in. Yeah. And then you need. like more girls to be open. I don't think they thought like all the girls would be like, we don't want to talk to any of the boys. Like it just kind of backfired.

And I feel like they need just to have more time, more people in and out. I know like it's not like they have a completely unlimited amount of people to pick from, but it just felt like there wasn't this, bark that they necessarily wanted from it. Yes. Do you think that if they knew in advance that this was happening, it'd be different? Because Love Island, they know in advance about CasaMogg.

Yeah, no, it definitely would have. And I think now going forward it'll be different. There was so much complaining. I feel like there was a lot of complaining about the situation and almost like we're being forced into this and whatever. And it's like, yeah, but it's also part of the show. A lot of talk about what was happening instead of just going with the punches. Right, exactly. If you're going to copy the format, just copy the format. Right. Like, do a joint row ceremony.

Like, make a dramatic. Like, if you're just going to do the same thing anyway, just go for it. And maybe just like a bigger, they needed to, I don't know, maybe people will be more open to it now that they know that it's happening. Right. Do you think it will stop the, it might stop those initial connections. Like, it might make, you know, people will be hesitating to make those connections up front knowing that that's, coming, but it also could be good for like, you know, like

let's solidify this before we go. They should probably be filming for a longer period of time. Yeah, I agree. Maybe like an extra week at least. This is a funny one. Do you think Kate is Team Chriselle or Team Christine at the Oppenheim group? Kate seems like, probably

my guess is Kate sucks up, would have sucked up to both of them. Definitely. Probably Christine more, I think. Yeah, I see her being in a scene. I know. Christine's no longer there. I know, but Christine's cool, you know. Yeah, yeah. Probably Crischel. Yeah.

I always forget that she's selling something that hate her even more. Which couple do you think will get engaged for the sake of the show, but they don't really want to get engaged? Because there's always one. I would think it would be...

Like, I would think that Johnny would change his tune just to keep Victoria. But I don't know. He was so sour puss when Alice came down. He saw Alex, and I've never seen a frown like that in my life. I was, I would have said maybe Rodney and Eliza, but then we see Justin come back. This is also the thing, like, what are we doing bringing people back? Yeah, why are we doing that?

If you're sent home, like, was Justin the only one that came back? Was Justin the only one? I don't know, and the preview was just like, oh, here's Justin. So stupid. Yeah, like, why? Like, there's just, I guess. Was Justin that great? Like, clearly was not great here instead.

Like, there's no rules I get. I understand rules are there no, there are no rules. But the show needs a little bit more structure. Yeah, I agree. The producers just willy-nilly decide, like, who gets a date and who gets, and Michael doesn't have to go into the switch. And, like, this doesn't have to happen. Like, they're just, like, favorites are playing.

There just isn't, I know. Flying out of the radar. I mean, that's fine. I mean, whatever, like, leave them to their, leave them be, I guess, you know? Like, that's a couple where it's like they do make sense. So it's, you don't complain about it. They're a unique situation. They obviously, we're going to be together.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Last question. If we had to have anyone else come down to the beach, who would it be? Who would really fuck shit up? Like, who the hell hasn't shown up already? I know, honestly.

It's like a never-ending loop of people. God, imagine if Pilot Pete went? Yeah, right? Like, something like that to fuck shit up. No, I was just want Pete. Remember? Pete was going to go. Was he really?

I know, I know. We haven't talked about that. Pilot Pete and Kelly Flanagan just being back to screen. I don't know. They both roasted each other on podcasts. They were mean to each other. I would love to know what Kelly said about. Like, Kelly was like, hey, yeah, you know, sorry, your mom was really annoying.

I mean, yeah, because she is. It's like, because her mom's worse. Maybe he's finally realizing it. Maybe he looked back and was like, damn, my mom is. Maybe Kelly won the long battle. Yeah, yeah. She made it through the long night. The Great War.

Yeah, she won the Great War. For some reason, I can't even think of anybody that's like a viable contestant. at this point in time. Me neither. Truly, me neither. Like, there's not... No, Jed's engaged, isn't he? Oh, God. Jed, I forgot about him.

Luke. Luke would be laughed out of the building. Jordan, Kimball. He's been on a bunch of times. Oh, yeah, that's right. I think he might be married. Wow. Yeah. No, I can't, I can't think of...

Any of the big players. No, except, yeah, they've all kind of been around. They've all shown up, really. I know. I feel like they've realized their time has passed. You know who I wish we could have seen more of is the original Peter from Rachel Lindsay season with the gray hair. Peter Krauss. Krause is hot and cool.

And I feel like people would like him. But I think that he doesn't want anything to do with the show anymore. I haven't seen him since then. Let's cut some stems and give out some roses. Kelly, you want to go? Yes. I have a. Let's see. I'll do my rose first.

Let me think for a sec. I would like to give my rose to... Oh, I'll give my rose to Adam. I'm obsessed with him. Okay. Love him. Adam, the Australian. We got more time with him. He loves a wine chat and I'm obsessed with him now.

So good for him. No, no, no. Rose. That's my rose. Yeah, yeah, okay. My stem cut is, of course, Kate. Fuck up this. Literally, like, fuck her. I'm so out on her. I can't even describe.

You guys know. Oh, my goodness. Excuse me. Thank you. It's dusty. I will give my rose to Aaron and Genevieve. Oh, yes. Cute.

Oh, that could be, that could be a couple. They might do it. That get engaged, like, to get engaged. For real. Like, disaster. They might do it. Or get engaged to get engaged and then, like, stay together. They could be the next, like, you know, Jojo and Jordan.

Yeah. Stay together for a while and then get engaged. I just, like, everything is going so well for them right now, but I still have a hard time believing that. Yeah. This worked for them. We'll have to see you next week. Yeah, maybe.

And I am going, I wish I could cut Kate's. Cut it again. She deserves it. Okay, I'll cut Kate's again. She deserves double cuts. Double cut. I'm going to give my rose to Brandon and Serene.

Cute. Because I felt like they just had a beautiful reunion. It was sweet. Run and jump. They're straight up in love with each other. There you are. They're thrown out. I love you.

So they're locked in. And, God, I wish I could also... That was really the one thing I had to look at my list of things that I was like, oh, I did not like this. Yeah, I want to make sure I addressed all my... You know, well, you guys went... Yeah. You guys went Kate, and she definitely...

She said some stuff. Honestly, I... You're going to cook Chennai? You know what? I was thinking about Chenet, but then I was like, you know, I don't know if she fully deserves a stem cut. For her mean things, what she said? She was being mean.

She was being mean. But she was being petty childish immature. Yeah, it came from her place. She just got embarrassed by Tyler. It came from her place. She got embarrassed by Logan. She was embarrassed by James. I'm cutting the semi-production.

Yeah, do it. I just feel like they're losing track here. I feel like they lost control of the show a little bit. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what's going on. I like the idea. And look, I agree, Kelly, that I think these are both very good episodes. Yes.

But I feel like there's. more producer manipulation happening than there needs to be. I agree as well. I think they're meddling a little too much. I think the interviews and like getting all these comments and stuff is just, it's like let the conversations play out. I'd rather hear what these people are saying on the beach more than I would people just being mean in interviews. Yes.

So give me more like actual conversations. I agree. I agree. Okay. Good one. All right. Thanks guys. All right.

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