Chicks in the Office - Josie Canseco Interview + Hannah Berner Leaving Summer House

Episode Date: May 17, 2021

Hannah Berner is leaving Summer House (9:37-17:29). James Kennedy & Raquel Leviss are engaged (19:25-24:26). Rita Ora & Taika Waititi dating (24:37-29:06). Interview with our girl Josie Canseco – talking everything in her life + a game of Never Have I Ever (31:05-1:19:35). CITO merch > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat & our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne, giving you that Friday energy on a Monday. Monday. Yeah, it's Monday. I hope everyone's doing good.

I hope everyone's doing fine because I'm not. Long week. I don't even want to, like, talk about it too much. It's just like back in New York. We're back in the studio. We've been in the office for two hours. We thought we were going to record in the new studio. Noah doesn't like the way the cameras look.

So we're back in the other studio. It's been a frustrating two hours. I'm not going to lie. But we are back in New York. We came home Friday. Yeah, we will get in that studio. Well, we were going to unveil the studio today. Let's be honest.

That was the plan. That was the plan. That was the plan. It was the cameras. Plans failed. Not going to happen. We'll see you. We'll see.

We'll try again next week, maybe. I don't know. Don't even put a date on it. No, I'm in that place now where it's like, no, no, I was going to say it may never happen, but it will, but just like. Why would you even say that? Because I'm so down. I also would feel like such a, like, I also like would feel like such a brat too for the people

who built that room and for us to be like, we're not even going to record it there. We will record in there. That's not going to happen. That's our studio now. We're going to record in there. just needs to figure out. You just got to figure out. The camera angles, which is fine.

We're going to get there. We're going to be okay. We're not there yet. We're not there yet. It's been a frustrating two hours, but we're here. We are back from L.A. Yeah. On Thursday when we recorded the podcast.

Yeah. I was like, oh, you know, last night in L.A. tonight. Going out to dinner. Going out to dinner. Who knows? We'll have a crazy night. That we did.

Crazy night ensued. Fran and I know how to end a trip. That's what we realized. We always go out on, like, very well. Like we always go out with a bang, like it's a great trip. We go out hard. The last night is always like hits harder. It's not smart.

The entire rest of the trip. But I just feel like we finally adjusted to the time and we were ready to go. And it's just like we went out to dinner. We met new people. We had a great time. Yes, we did. And I consumed shrooms. Yep.

And did not sleep the entire night and went right onto an airplane. and let me tell you I was struggling. Yeah. I did not. Fran did not. Which is why if you saw the video on her Instagram of me kicking her out of my hotel room at 3.30 in the morning. Fran said to me. I was like either get under the covers and go to sleep or get out of fear.

I knew there was no way I would fall asleep. So I couldn't get under the covers and she was just like, you have to leave. And I got to go to bed. I didn't want to be alone. I was just up and at it, you know? That sounds like. I just couldn't keep talking. you no offense.

I just couldn't shut up. I just needed to go to sleep and you were just a struggle city the whole time on the plane. At one point we're sitting next to each other and she's like in and out of sleep and she's got the blanket over her head. She does have the blanket over her head. She's just like

at one point you were typing ferociously on your phone. Like I was like are you okay? I woke up from a nap. I look over. You're looking at me like someone in your family just died and you're like I have my a flask of water next to me. And you just look at me,

can I please have a sip of your water? I was like, yeah, you freak. It's literally in my chair next to me. Just pick it up and have a sip. It was, or hit the call button so the flight attendant could prick you water. If I was in any other state of mine,

I would have just took your water and drank it. Yeah. I was severely struggling and I have been severely disoriented ever since that night. Like I think I'm changed forever. I don't know. I mean, this sounds like when someone says they stay up all night, like I put up a picture and I was like, oh, beginning of the night versus 12 hours later, people are like, oh, Coke. Like, I don't do Coke. I'm not a Coke person. It was strictly shrooms. And there's nothing worse than when you end up with somebody who didn't do shrooms and your own shrooms at the end of the night. And that person is like, get out of my room.

Get out of my room. I locked myself out of my room in the hotel robe. Yeah. And my slippers. The people were laughing at me in the hotel. It was like 5 a.m. I didn't go to sleep. It's a whole mess. I let me tell you I immediately fell asleep as soon as you left. I couldn't walk out your door, remember? Yeah, I know.

I just couldn't shut it. I started singing, it's over by the Cheetah Girls. It's over. I could not deal. And I feel so alone. It was a good time, though. Thank God for spicy margaritas. Yeah, Fran was downing some spicy marks to

deal with my shroomness and other people like I didn't do shrooms alone no no no we were with a group of people and had a had a great time so much fun you know you are yeah if you're listening to this you know who you are and we love you so much yeah we have forever bonded with these people and i'm going to miss them i'm getting teary i'm getting teary i left this group and ria was like i am so sad to be leaving you guys i really was i feel like we made friends for life so also I was on Shroom, so that might have been it as well. But probably affected that 100%. Either way, it was a great trip all and all.

We go out with a bang every time. It was a great time. And one day we'll be back. Maybe. Maybe not. I mean, we also came back to a beautiful weekend in New York. It was lovely. It just like was like, oh, damn, homeland.

I didn't see the outside. Yeah, you were. Fair. I didn't see the outside. I slept until 6 p.m. on Saturday. Yeah. And like I said time really fucks you up. It really does.

My sleep schedule is severely fucked up. We spent enough days in L.A. where we finally like last night actually also, yeah, what's what happens when you stay up at 3.30 in the morning? 6 a.m. at home, you're, you didn't sleep at all. So anytime you don't sleep at all, that's going to fuck it up. So, and then add the time difference. Yeah.

Whole big thing. The body's adjusting to being home, but it's good to be back. We're happy to be back in the office. And of course, we. Yeah, not in our studio. That's okay. We're going to move past that. Noah said before he said, I'm going to have a mental breakdown this week. I said, you're not allowed to have one this week, because I'm having one this week. So you can have yours next week. You got to wait. You have to wait your turn, Noah. You got to wait. He's so, he doesn't even speak in the mic. Yeah. Unfortunately, we need like a couple

days of not seeing each other after we go on a trip and we didn't really get that. We got one day and now we're all back. Like I think Friday going in the airport We all Like traveling we spoke maybe three words to each other The entire time Me and you spoke We didn't speak to know I'm saying

Like as a group It was just like all right See you guys on Sunday He's got nothing He's been up against the mic Just looking at us It's kind of hilarious visual No he doesn't

It's okay We don't need to talk to him It's me and you babes I love you Sorry no All and all though you know what made me feel great when I got home? Was taking some 3-Cy.

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I really can't call on an interview because it was just a lot of fun. It was all over the place. We didn't really ask her too many questions. We just chatted. We're too friendly with Josie at this point to sit down and have an interview. So it was a lot of fun. She's an absolute angel. We played Never Have I Ever.

It was a lot of fun. So let's get into it, starting off with Hannah Burner. So I feel like this is news that everyone was waiting for. Would Hannah Burner be returning to Summer House? Is she not returning? It looks like she will not be returning to the next season of Summerhouse. She is not going to spend her time there this summer. Instead, she announced she will be going.

on tour instead. Yeah, so I thought that this happened really quickly, but then I just thought about it. It makes a lot of sense. They're going to be recording the new season, filming the new season very soon. It's the summer. It's almost the summer. So she did post an Instagram and wrote that this past year has been one of the most important in my life for self-reflection, love, and learning a lot of shit. I've welcomed new career ventures, challenges and obstacles and opportunities for growth. As we climb out of the emotional trenches of 2020, I look forward to an exciting summer, but with mixed emotions, I'm announcing I won't be spending it living in the summer house. These last three summers have truly been a whirlwind, and the show has, without a doubt,

changed my life and I will forever be thankful for the platform it has provided me. Making people laugh is what brings me joy, and I am so excited to announce that I will be spending this summer touring my stand-up and telling fart jokes at comedy clubs and theaters near you. More dates and tickets to come soon, but I cannot wait to see you all in person. I know you are going to say, were you going to say that you hate fart jokes? I hate fart. I know you, I know you do. I, you know, I, I laugh at a good fart joke every time. I wish I could and I genuinely can't. I really, I really do. I really do. To me, it's just such low hanging fruit. Yeah. To make a fart joke. Yeah, well. Which I get. Some people think it's funny. You know what I mean? I'd never have been that way.

And that's okay. Um, yeah, bathroom humor not for you. It is, it is for a lot of people. It is for a lot of people, though. So I get it. Yes. But this is, yeah, yeah, I don't know. I'm sad. I'm actually very sad. I feel like the show is going to be very weird without her. I agree. I thought she was a great addition to this show. Obviously, you know, people loved her at first. Did not have a great run this season. There were a few things that bothered me about the caption. I feel like, you know, it's a great thing. She's going on tour. It's good for her. That's awesome. She's doing what she loves. This will let her focus on her relationship as well. She's not going to be spending it in the house on camera. That's better that way. feels that way. No thank you to the crew in the caption of Summerhouse. No thank you to the people

at Bravo. Maybe there's no love loss right now. Maybe not. But for me, I feel like you got to throw that out there. You know? Yeah. Maybe she did say she was so thankful for the opportunity for the platform, you know, but thankful for the platform. Right. Right. Thankful for the people who worked on the show and, you know, I don't know. Even the castmates just to be like, you know, we had our. difficulties but like shout out to the cast i don't know maybe i'm just looking for i'm just looking for things to be annoyed at but those are things that just sit out to me that i felt like you know you're leaving a show and it was bad why not just ended on a on a nice note to everybody on your right out and i'm sure she'll talk about it on her podcast too i bet she'll get into more detail

of the whole thing because some on instagram like it's a pretty long caption so i feel like maybe you just want to keep it on the short and like she wanted to keep it but not like so crazy long. She can get into it more, more on her show. And also, like, I'm sure she's going to keep doing Giggly Squad with Paige. So it's going to be an interesting dynamic. That I will definitely miss them. Paige and Hannah on the show have always been so great.

And they've always had that, like, just best friends dynamic duo, which is so needed on a show like that. So it's just going to be weird. And it makes me think, like, who. what kind of people are going to come in now, you know? Do they have people lined up? They're going to need other people. I think, I feel like she could have had a redemption storyline.

But at the end of the day, I really wanted that to. If she's not feeling comfortable doing that, it is what it is. I also think Des wouldn't want to live in the summer house. Yeah. And they just got engaged. Yeah. Do you think that Bravo didn't ask for her to come back or do you think she left? Um,

I don't know. That always changes for me. Like there's some people and there's some housewives or some Bravo characters that I'm always like, oh, God, they definitely got asked to leave. But, and that's, it's possible. But I just feel like that wasn't, I don't know, I don't think that was the case here. Because I do think that they got so much good drama, quote unquote, good drama from Hannah this past season. and they always want someone who might not be getting along with everyone in the house.

When they go into filming, I can't imagine they're excited about everybody getting along. Exactly. So I just think that they would want her still. Yeah, I agree with that. It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out with Paige. Obviously, she's her own person. She's hilarious. She's amazing.

And her and Amanda are really close. So it will be interesting to see who comes in, what kind of friendships are made. will they just keep it this group? Is Luke coming back? There are so many unanswered questions. More girls, another guy. They're going to need more girls. They're going to bring in more guys.

I think they need more guys and I think they need people who are actually friends with those people. Right, right. Which I think they're going to make happen this time around. I would hope. I'm sure they can find some acquaintances of some sort. I also think that there was there were some other. people on Winterhouse that have not been on Southern Charm or Summerhouse

that were like friends of those people. Yep. So I could see potentially someone from Winterhouse that we haven't met yet beyond this season of Summerhouse because obviously we'll get Winterhouse before we get Summerhouse. So it's like we'll meet them on Winterhouse

and then it'll be like, oh, they made this connection on Winterhouse and then they're going to also film Summerhouse. That's a good call. I think that could definitely happen. There was very, very hot male model that was a part of Winterhouse that I'm forgetting his name but we've never seen him before so just toss him on Summer House too. Yeah I'm excited to watch Winterhouse whenever that comes out. I mean I hope it's sometimes soon even though they fucking brush that all under the rug and act

like they never put a teaser out and it was extremely weird as to why they're doing that. That was one of the weirdest teasers that they've that Bravo's ever put out so weird it like abruptly ended it seemed like they didn't even mean to they didn't even mean to air it it was very strange. It did seem like a mistake. Definitely seem like a mistake. I feel like nobody from the cast even promoted it. So listen, it's sad. Obviously, you don't want to see someone go out the way that Hannah's going out. But I think that new chapter for her. New chapter. Career move is a good thing for her. She, you know, she wants to be doing stand-up. She wants to be doing the podcast. She doesn't want to be on the reality show anymore. It'll be healthy for her relationship, I think, too, because it would especially be hard coming on to this next season.

engage and not only having to like redeem herself from last season, but then also have to like have Des be a part of all of that as well. It's just an added pressure of trying to keep the connections or keep friendships or try and save friendships, but then also like be worried about another person also. So it does, like we said, it makes sense. It's sad. We wish she wasn't going. But, you know, it's definitely, I feel it's definitely the best move for her.

Definitely. Let me tell you, it would not have been good for Desd to be in that house with them. No, no, I don't think so. Not at all. Yeah. This month is Mental Health Awareness Month. This podcast is sponsored by Better Help Online Therapy, and in Mental Health Awareness Month, Barstall Sports is proud to support de-stigmatizing mental health.

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I know. I know. It's funny because we've been joking so much, right? Like, what are they going to have happen on Vanderpump Rules? There's babies. Like, where's the drama? We know that they've started filming. We've seen pictures of Lisa.

filming a Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom is open back up, thank God. And now we know that they took a little trip, Coachella, fake Coachella trip. And he proposed to Raquel. So that's the, and I think, I forget what episode I said it, but a while back I was like, oh, yeah, and you know, there's Raquel and James. They're also on this show, you know. So this is something. They're engaged.

They're moving on to another part of their life. that people definitely doubted them from the beginning, but they've been together for a pretty long time. And I also got to say big props to Sheena. Like Sheena, one of the hardest working reality stars. Like she gave birth three weeks ago. And she's just full blown back filming this show. Like she was on this cast trip.

She's there with during the proposal. I'm sure they were all there because I'm sure they're all filming. But crazy. Yeah. But honestly, good for these too. Yeah. I have nothing bad. to say about it besides the fact who knows where this will go in the future.

Yeah. But as for right now, if that's the step they want to take, then good, good, I guess. I mean, we haven't heard anything crazy about James lately. I'm sure we'll see on the show how things have unraveled, what has been going on with his life. But I feel like we always used to hear things about James Kennedy acting like a menace society. Yeah. And it seems like, it's been quiet for James.

Yeah, it's been quiet for James. And maybe him and Raquel are in a good place. and it seems that way if he's proposing. I don't think someone would propose if they were in a bad place. So, congrats to them. At least we'll get something on Vanderbottles this season, some sort of engagement. Yeah. Wedding plan.

That's like a go-to, right? When in doubt, just let's get some wedding planning on a season. That always gets the people going. For sure. Oh, there's drama with the wedding planning. James doesn't want to be involved. Rquel is asking James too many questions. Who's going to be bridesmaids, who's not.

going to be who's going to be invited who's not going to be invited. James doesn't know if he wants to get married anymore. Ah, he's getting nervous. And then the finale is Raquel walking down the aisle. Yeah, something good. Something along those lines. They'll cook up something good. We just wrote the season. Yeah, they'll cook up something good for us. Because who, and I, and you can take this with a grain of salt, who knows if this is true or not, but I know that Jacks recently did an interview saying where he felt like the last season of Vanderpump Rules was getting too scripted. And that's why he and Brittany left the show, which is another one of those situations where it's like, did you leave? Were you asked to leave? Was this your own choice? I just, I don't know. I can't imagine

Jacks like turning down a paycheck, right? But I also, having babies changes your whole life. Like they could have had this baby and been like, we don't want to be on this show anymore. You just, you don't know. But I think saying like, ah, it's got too scripted is like, okay. Yeah, you don't know for sure, but I personally believe they were not asked back. Yeah.

Because. This is what I'm saying about Hannah. It's like it's just our own opinion. Like, it's our own opinions about the cast member. Like, it's like, you know, we're like, well, I mean, part of me believes that Hannah may have not been asked back. Oh, you think? Yeah.

Okay. You know. Yeah. I just, I don't know. for sure. That's the, we keep saying we don't know. I think that maybe because the other people have been on Summer House longer, if they really didn't want her in the house, maybe they have more of a say because they've been on longer. And even though that's, you know, fucked up at the same time, like when people have worked at a place for longer than others, they have more of a say. And so I don't

know for sure. I also think it could very well be that she is over this and wants to focus on our relationship. And so the same thing with Jackson, Brittany. do I think Jackson and Brittany were not asked back? Yes, but could it be possible that they really just wanted to focus on their kids? Sure. Yeah. Hmm. It's very interesting.

It's interesting. And like we've talked about a bajillion times, it's watching it and not seeing them with their actual friends or with these, you know, we see all these pictures on Instagram of all of them together with the babies and whatnot. And just not seeing that on the show is. bizarre, but we're going to get all these new storylines it feels like just makes sense that they would have a bigger focus on James and Raquel. We got some pictures of Rita ora hanging out with Taigua Titi.

If you don't know, he's a director. He did Jojo Rabbit. He's done Thor, Ragnarok, great movie. And he's a great director. He seems very, very, very funny, very, very cool. And so we see these pictures of them kind of cozied up. Looks like they're in Australia. And it's just such a random pairing that I love it so much.

It's just you throw some celebrity names in a hat just from all fields. Shake it up. Pick two names out. Rita Orrin. Yeah. When we were going through the topics to figure out, what we were going to talk about. This came up. And I was like, you know, maybe we could touch on it. Maybe not. Fram was like, let's please talk about it. Just because I want to state the fact that I love

this couple, even though they're the most random pairing that you can find. Absolutely. And what's also great is I just feel like Rita Orra has had some of the most random but like awesome boyfriends ever. If you've never dabbled into looking at Rita or as dating history, I highly recommend. It's very fascinating. There's directors, actors, musicians. And she dated Calvin Harris. She dated Rob Kardashian. Oh, my God, I forgot about Rob Kardashian.

James Arthur, she apparently dated. Also, like sometimes when you go look at it. things, it's just like bullshit, right? Like, this Google's telling me she's dated Brooklyn Beckham when? Brooklyn Backham's 21 years old. There's no way that Rita Orr dated Brooklyn Beckham or else that would be highly illegal. Justin Bieber's on here was Califa

Aesap Rocky. She definitely dated Kare Delphi. Like I'm like this, I don't think this is right. There's an atrocious amount of people on here that I'm like, that's definitely not true at all. But I think Calvin Harris was probably one of the biggest high profile one's Rob Kardashian too, yeah.

Wiz Khalifa. Whiz Kalifa. But I don't know. I just, there's something about, I have Rita, Rita, Rida, Tika, Watiti that I love because it's just, okay. I literally have nothing to say about it besides that's cool. You know what I mean? Like, there's not much I can say about this couple besides good for them.

This is a good conversation starter for our listeners out there. If you have any, if you're like a pop culture person, you love, why else would you be listening to this show? But if you are bringing up, you're talking to someone, maybe they're not as clued in, but they love Marvel, but they love Jojo Rabbit, perhaps. You could be like, hey, do you know Tago Antig's dating Rita? Maybe that's, it's a good conversation starter. Yeah, it could be. Why you like Ragnarok?

Great movie. Marvel. It's a great way to throw in that you know direct. directors. You know, you know at least one director's name. Yeah, maybe like on a, your browsing hinge or whatnot and you just want to like throw out, oh, you want to throw out a random fun fact at a guy. Hey. I don't think I've ever heard you say the term browsing hinge. Browsing hinge. Just threw me off guard. People browse. Hinge. They do. Wait, just I've never heard you say it before. I was just thinking of a dating app. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Just jump in.

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I bet you there's tons of guys out there who have like loves Marvel on their dating profile. Right. Big Marvel fan. Yeah. Hit him with like, hey, what's your favorite Marvel movie? Nine times out of ten people say Rag and Rock. Hey, did you know he's doing?

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Maybe talk about Rob Calvin Harris, Rob Kardashian. You have no idea. That's the perfect way to date somebody. Yep. Talk about Rita Oro. Talk about Rita Oro. We have a great. interview with Josic and Saco

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All right, everyone. We are here with a special guest. We're in L.A. of course we're doing the whole LA tour and we got Josie Kinseko with us finally fucking potty so hot so beautiful she showed up she's so tall supermodel of course she's so tall she's so tall I think she said she's so tall no as soon as she got out of her car I was like you're so fucking tall because Ria found out she's short like a month ago this hit you a month ago you're also not short let's just let's just clear the air here you're not short you are a

she thinks I have short legs you have short I am totally Wakes! I'm like a doxen. I'm like my dog. Okay, I'm number one supporter of Wiener Dog. So you might Number one supporter of Ria. It just is how it works, you know? You're five three years. Also we're a little drunk short. Yeah, whatever. It's not about me. It's about Josie. She's here. And this has been a long time coming because a little background info. Josie and I met a few years ago. She came to the office when she was dating Mike Stud. And we just like, we randomly did like an Instagram live together. It was fun. Fran, you were like sick that day? You weren't there. I wasn't there. Maybe I was like trying to go to school, I don't know.

Probably at the time we were like still interns. Wait, were you working with Barcelona though? Yeah, we were like trying to pretend to be like, like, we were still trying to like go to school and like graduate college. So there were days. Yeah. So there were days when like we just I would actually go to class and maybe that was one of those days. I think it was probably one of those days.

Sometimes I'd choose to go to class. Yeah. No, because we got these internships right and we're like shit like we want to be there every day. we want to be around. We want people to see us. Like we want to like do a lot of work. And so there would be some days when I'd be like, oh, you know, I know that this is happening in the office.

I guess I'm not going to this class. Yeah. And full transparency. We've had a couple drinks before this. So let's just get that out in the open, everybody. But yeah, there you go. And so we met a few years ago. We stayed in touch over Instagram.

And it was always funny because we had stayed in touch. Fran had never met you. no like Instagram interaction, whatever. And I've always been like, let's get Josie on the show. We've been talking about doing this together for, I think, four years now. Literally, we've been trying to coordinate this forever. The first time we made a trip to L.A., I was like, who were we going to hit up? It was when our podcast first started.

What was it? Let's hit up Josie. 2018. That was the first time we came to L.A.? Yeah. Where was I then? What year were we in? Yeah.

You had some work thing because you couldn't come. You couldn't do the interview. and then we went back and forth for so long. Now finally it happened, which I'm so thankful for because I was like, guys, I think it's finally happening. I think Josie's coming on the podcast.

And she's here. I'm running. Right. And the backstory is good too. Like you guys, it's impressive as me, like the outsider to be like to meet someone and stay, like to meet someone once and then stay connected with them for years.

That's hard. Like not a lot of people can do that. Yeah. I mean, I also just like I fucked with. you. I thought you were really sweet. I thought you were kind. I thought there was something about you that felt trustworthy even though you like have a podcast and your job is to kind of like put people on the Lexi. I kind of want to tell all your secrets and then you're like, oh shit. Like before this prior,

we sat here and spit all the teeth. For like an hour. Yeah. No, I should have been the podcast in the kitchen over there. Exactly. We talk about that all the time. Like, you know, obviously we interview people and off camera. They'll tell us things and whatever. And we just talk and we're like, we're trustworthy people. We are so fucking trust. We are. We are. We are so fucking trust. We I'm just going to put that out there. Because the camaraderity of it of like building with you guys personally and then on a business aspect is like totally different. It's important to have both of those like the connections or relationships the way you guys like

hang out with like a lot of the bachelor people. Yeah. We just want to be friends. And also I know we love making new friends. And I think a lot of people come on and they get worried about what, you know, either people will say or will say. But like we, I'm always like on my guest side more than I am being like, okay, oh my God. well, if I post this, it's going to go crazy viral and people are going to freak out.

I'm like, no. Like, she's looked me in the eye and said like, hey, could you really not like pump that up? But I'm okay, 100%. I know a lot of people do appreciate that also. That's super important for people who like it. Yeah, like you don't want to have that reputation of being like, ooh, like we're going to do their show and they're going to like fucking put us on blast. Like no. Yeah, I think that there's actually, that's kind of the world we're living in is that people want like a gotcha moment.

Right. Like a lot of. Because it sells. I don't blame them. No, I don't blame them either. It works. because we're the ones talking about it. Mads Lewis going on to fucking call her daddy and being like,

oh, this is what happened. Like, talk about selling. Jesus Christ. Everyone wants to know what's happening. We're like, we're locked into this. No, exactly. But I feel like that's where we were like, oh, we rather just be like friends with everyone.

So I'm glad we made that connection. But I feel like that's kind of the person you are. Would you say that? You make a lot of connections with people. You have a lot of friends. Yeah, you know everyone. I mean, I have being raised in L.A. And being raised in this world.

in this industry and having parents were in it. I definitely think a lot of people like took me under their wing. Yeah. And I've definitely kind of like met everyone because LA is like one of the smallest, biggest towns in a way. And I'm definitely friends. I'm very sociable. I'm very friendly.

I'm very adaptable to different environments I'm in. But I have, I can count on one hand how many people I trust and how many people I'm close with and people I like genuinely would love to spend time with and just, or even like a girl's night. Like, for example, my best friend is Scarlet. I don't know if you guys know, seen her on Instagram. Yeah, I mean, Brandy Melville days is a throwback, I feel like.

Flawless, stunning human being inside and out. My, like, soulmate, my twin flame, some might say, genuinely. And there's, like, only a couple of people like that that I can call over and just, like, have a girl's night with and just talk and just be genuine and, you know, like, smoke weed or have some wine or watch a movie and, like, even be on our phone. But she's on the couch and I'm here and we're on our phones, but we just still enjoy each other's present. Isn't that the best when you can hang out with somebody and you don't have to speak to them? You don't even talk. You just like just come out on my couch. You sit on your phone.

It's just comfortable notice somebody. It's not so lonely. You put on a TV show. You're both not watching the TV show or talking to each other, but you're comfortable. Exactly. But in LA, you can't really trust. I mean, I've learned everyone kind of has a motive and usually it's an ulterior motive. So I just kind of learned that.

I think being raised with the parents, I did. I learned that quicker than most. A lot of people come in from out of town and from, you know, Middle America or Europe, wherever it may be. And I just kind of learned a little quicker than most, I think. Do you prefer L.A. or New York? Because I know you lived in New York for a while. And obviously, you're a model.

And I feel like, what do you think is better for modeling New York or L.A.? Okay, modeling-wise, 100% New York. It also depends what Lane you're trying to execute properly. Like, if you want to get the high fashion, the elevated more kind of. kind of chic fashion level of the modeling than New York obviously because that's where a lot of editorials, photographers, even Europe going to like Paris, Milan, London. L.A. is way more commercial and I think that if you would like to do more of the commercial side of things, then L.A. But modeling in general, if you want to hit that like elevated supermodel level, like you're not,

I don't want to talk vague here, but like the supermodels are in New York. Yeah. If that makes sense. Like the supermodels who do shows. New York Fashion Week. Exactly. The shows, the events, the ones that, you know, borderline brand new into a celebrity as in a brand. Right.

It's New York. But living wise. Runway models. I don't know. I love. L.A.'s home I was raised in my whole life and like I really, really, really love it. But there's something about New York that at first I was intimidated this shit out of me. I was like, I went to New York and I was 17, 18, and was terrified because I had no idea how to get around.

trying to maneuver the subway and my living situation at the time like wasn't uh incredible so it was it was intimidating and it was frustrating and it was defeating at times but once i got accustomed to the city i was like oh i love it like i just loved something about new york and al lady is like the opposite everybody's on the go in new york i feel like if you're listening to the show then you've heard our interviews throughout the week of people with la and we've kind of asked people the same questions just to get the feel because we're East Coast people through and through New York, New Jersey. We're on the go. The sarcasm, the humor is just, you feel like it's different than in L.A.

It's way more different. It's, and also the work ethic. I feel like people have a way different work ethic in New York, and it's more so like whenever, so when I was living in L.A. and would come to New York, I'd be there for like a month or two at a time, maybe three months when I was younger. I was bicossal. And I just felt like when I was there,

I was like, if I'm not doing my job, someone else is going to be doing it. for me and I have to get up and grind and there's no there's not really much sympathy like my agents were like figure it out go get there at this time figure it out sit there for this many hours do whatever you have to do and I loved it and I thought it built a lot of character and I built and I think it built a lot of work ethic because I came from a place of like not really knowing how to work or or where I wanted to work exactly and then I found my my home and modeling and built a crazy work ethic in New York City and I feel like that's it builds a lot of character. New York City like

fucking shows you who you are you're like pushing you around in New York like yeah I love it though nobody cares who you are on the streets of New York City I feel like people are just walking by there's no it's the weather you sometimes like no it's yeah no it is the weather you get all the seasons sure who are just in sunshine every day and they're happy it's like hey sometimes you need a little seasonal depression you need a little you need to be snowed in for a week Sometimes you should shut the fuck up and get snowed in. To be like freezing your ass off for a few months. And you just appreciate the good stuff so much more.

100% when you see some of the bad stuff. Like when that first nice day in April or May like hits. Sometimes in February you get like a 65 degree day. In New York City, I kid you not, it's the best thing ever. It's orgasmic. Everyone in New York City go. Come down. Come down.

No, I'm here. It walks outside and is like, this is the greatest day ever. Everyone goes out and tries to have like the best day ever. Everyone's day drinking. Do you see how warm it is? We got to go out. We got to have dinner. We got to get drinks.

We got to go to the park. So true. You know, you just have so much fun in those moments. And it makes up for like the months when you don't leave your house because it's so cold. For sure. Totally. And did you live in like a model house? Because I feel like this is something that's talked about.

but I never knew anybody who did. Yeah, so I lived in a model apartment, but people misconstrue what the model apartment thing is. People think it's a nightlife promoter who will own an apartment, and therefore those girls are obligated to go out. That was not at all what I was doing. At all. She's going to the club every night.

No, I mean, there was a phase of life where I, like, once I hit a level of success, I was like, okay, we'll celebrate a little bit. Yeah, you know, I've had my moments. I go out. I love to have fun with my friends. But my work ethic hasn't changed. It's only grown. So I always prioritize work.

But, yeah, so I was in a model apartment that was owned by my agency. So when I signed to next models and I was 17, they automatically was like come to New York, come to New York City, work, do your thing. And let's see what you got. Like, let's try you out here in the city. And I was in a model apartment that had, it was six girls. And it was three girls per room. We all stay in twin beds. And it's owned by the agency.

and it's just, it's with a lot of girls who are from different countries, speaking different languages, having different work habits, eating habits. Like, for example, like when I, I remember coming to New York and, like, getting to my first model apartment, and the girl I slept next to, we all have our own, like, little twin beds, like, three per room, and she would only drink tea, ever, ever. And she would have, like. Morning, day, night? That's it.

Tea. Tea. And she, black tea or green tea. I wish I could, which flavor was it? I don't know why that's really not important, I guess, but. Yeah. I'm assuming it was the one that had caffeine so she could like,

green tea, yeah, green tea. Earl, Earl, Earl, Earl. Black tea. No, no, what's Earl black, Earl. Yep. Breakfast, English, gray, breakfast, Earl Grey. Yeah. Grand.

Exactly. I like tea. I don't drink coffee. I don't drink coffee. What? What? How do you not drink coffee? No, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

Don't drink coffee. I don't drink coffee either. I need coffee. I'm a coffee gal. I learned. New York got me onto it. Yeah. But this girl was a tea girl.

It's, um, back to what you were saying. I just don't like to taste the coffee, but yeah, back to the tea. Get off on if we like coffee or not. I love coffee. When I need it. I don't, I don't like to be dependent on anything ever. Like, um, yeah, so she would only drink tea. Uh, obviously it was more like dietary so she could like fit the part of having the

measurements, losing weight, being skinny, whatever maybe. Um, and that was just like my. first impression of like what it took to and she was working she was fucking work and she was fucking working and she was crushing it to their thing and she was working and successful and um and i remember i i i'm just so like american and like i had a bowl of cocoa pebbles one or um cocopas cocapoohs yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um you're like coccccccccccubbles cocccels is a thing that's the thing it's a thing i liked oh the chocolate food food peppers yeah no um those are somewhat okay as well yeah breaking news josie

josie prefers cocoa puffs over cocoa pebbles cocoa puffs are incredible yeah favorite cereal i sneakie likes cinnamon toast crunch a lot cinnamon toast crunch but did you see what happened we have no we have to get through the story of what you're telling you've gone off this is what happens when your friends are the people that you work with is that you just we just go up okay finish the story then we'll talk about favorite cereals yep where was i at she drank a lot of tea i remember there was a night where i was eating a bowl Cocoa puffs and they were like, you eat that?

I was like, yeah? I just want some cereal and they're like, wow, just like so much sugar. And I'm like, oh my God. It's not funny. Were they like a, no, but were they the same age of you? Same age as you or were they a little bit older? They were this, there were, there was some younger and some older.

Okay, never too much older because of the modeling niche typically of like the model part when I was in was like 16, 17 to like 22. So there's 16 year olds in there? There was a 17. I mean, I was 17. There was another 17 year old. There was like a 19 year old in there. And also girls go in and out.

It's not like you have like a secured place of six. There's like there's you get in there and there's six and then one goes over here and one goes over there and they're all. It's just in and out. So you're getting, it's like, what can I compare it to? It's just like the most unstable type of household. And then there's like one bathroom typically. And everyone's sharing it. All the girls are sharing.

And everyone's a model. I don't smoke cigarettes, a lot of the girls. Like, we're all sharing one kitchen, one fridge. Everyone has their own snacks, their own foods, and we're all trying to, like, just properly make the salt. Yeah, did you ever get into the sigs or no? No, I tried. Of course.

I tried. I dabbled. No, I definitely dabbled, but I just, I, so also for me, I don't have an addictive personality at all whatsoever. I can, I can do anything or try anything. I mean, great, I've never really tried that many things. I'm not like it. Right.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. But I kind of feel the same way. cigarettes. For example, like, there was a phase where I was, like, smoking cigarettes and I was doing it because I was, um, alone and I was stressed and I was, it would curve your appetite. And that's what all the girls were doing. So I tried to smoke cigarettes and I just like, I hated it. I hated it so much. I hate the taste, the smell, the way it makes me feel. Like, I'm just, um, I don't know. I just never liked it. Yeah. I grew up with my parents like chain smoking constantly and and I don't get how people like, I tie on to it. I never got it because actually what's kind of funny is now. I'm talking about my life story, but my parents were straight up addicted to cigarettes, like my whole life. And then I remember when I was in fourth grade, they went and got hypnotized to not be addicted to cigarettes anymore.

I've heard it's a thing. Yeah. But then was it real? My mom, low key, would be smoking cigarettes on the side without telling my dad. She's like it works. Yeah. And then my, yes, literally my dad picked her up from work one night and caught her on the side of her job, smoking a cigarette with like.

Worked for your dad. Yeah, worked for my dad. He stopped. Caught her on the side, smoking cigarettes with her, like, co-workers. And I remember it was the biggest fight ever when they got home. It was like, we paid this amount of money to get hypnotized. And you just went back and started smoking cigarettes. My mom is still addicted to cigarettes.

My dad has two jewels. We spoke to your mom a second ago. Hi. Yeah, yeah. Love you. You shared such kind words. I love the best. She's going to cry at that same.

She's an absolute angel, no joke. But, yeah, she's an angel. now my dad he has two jewels like at once so he doesn't smoke cigarettes but he's on the jewel at once. Yeah and me my brother and sister none of us smoke cigarettes. I've smoked cigarettes. I'm a lot of times in my life. A few times. A few more than I should, but I've never been addicted to. I've never craved it. And so I always find it like, whoa, people really crave that nicotine or whatever it is that's in it. It's just I can't really speak for that addiction. side that people go through. I think it's just like alcohol addiction, drug addiction,

pill addiction, whatever may be. Sex, addiction. There's so many addictions. Sex. Could be anything. It could be anything. Yeah. I just read something today about, um, oh man. You seem like you're like, it's a big, no, no, it was, uh, right? You know, was like, sad about it. I saw it and I'm going to forget, who is the guy big muscles? That could be anybody. Dan Bolzerian? No. No, well, you got to help me out of this. Out of all people. You said porn addiction and big muscles. I was like, I'm sorry.

Pardon me. He's in white chicks. You can make his peck's move. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Terry Richards. Terry, Terry, Terry, Terry, Terry Rhodes. Terry. No, Terrell. Oh, Terrell.

Terry Cruz. Terry Cruz. Go ahead. Tirozy one trivia. Tara Cruz. He had a porn addiction. I read it. There was an article out today about how that was a big story.

Yeah. I saw it was like Terry Cruz This body has nothing to do with me. And it was like a hard time between him and his wife. I saw the headline. That's all that's why I'm so happy you came and we talked about Terry Cruz. Listen, I would much rather point the finger on other people than I mean today. So keep going to keep going.

Anyway, Terry Cruz is porn addiction. I saw it. And Terry Cruz has a porn addiction and we're going to pray for him and hope that he gets through. I feel like you could be addicted to worse things. You could be addicted to fucking crack, bro. Right. Like heroin. That's got to be worse.

That's way worse. I would assume. I've never tried. No, I can't really that to that. But like, if he, like, is in a relationship or he's married or whatever it is, obviously that's hard for that person. Question. His wife.

I'm interviewing you now. Okay. Hit us. If you had a boyfriend of a couple years and he often resorted to porn or just watch porn in general, would you be okay with that? So if you saw on his tab that he had like porn hub or whatever open all the time. So this is something we actually talked about on my other podcast recently because it was the P episode. We do the alphabet. And we talked about porn and we talked about like girlfriends,

getting mad at guys watching porn or how you feel about it. For me, I don't think that I can get mad at my boyfriend for watching porn because I sometimes dabble in watching porn. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like, I feel like, no judgment circle, even though it's going on YouTube. Josie's like, are you joking? But I have to say that I already openly, no, you have your mic on or no?

No, he doesn't have his mic on. But no one, we need your mic. He sat there in this whole podcast where I said way worse shit than this. Like just talking about like the types of porn that girls watch in general, girls watch lesbian porn more than like.

Thank God. Okay, I thought it was alone. I thought I was like, maybe have a lesbian, yeah. Maybe. I don't know. Why is it turn me on? It's let's be important.

Exactly. There's actually a science to it because I look into it. I think it's because girls know how to turn girls on. We know the spots of our own body. So when I see a girl doing it into the girl, I'm like, oh, she's got it. Yeah. And because they're catering to the female body part. So it's like when you see something happening to a vagina lovingly. Lovingly. It's caressing. Just so lovingly, caringly. Don't you think like straight porn is just like, they're just like fucking. And the way the guy treats the woman typically is not like porn wise is like not. not in the respect of what I'd want to see or what turns around. Sometimes I like watch straight porn. I watch like fantasy scenes of like the schoolgirl one or like the masseuse or whatever.

And I'm just like, it's catered for the guy. It's 100% catered for the guy. So I think that's why a lot of girls will say they watch lesbian porn because the girl is like caring about the girl. But on the topic of caring about your boyfriend watching porn, I feel like I just, it's something that I have to accept. Like if I'm not like I'm away this whole week,

is he not going to, jerk off. Like, you know what I mean? Fair enough. Fair enough. There's times where you're gone and you're away,

but also then like, send a little, yeah. No, of course, of course. I used to get upset with it when I was younger.

I used to, I mean, now I've obviously had a couple of relationships and there was one relationship where it like really pissed me the fuck off. And I was like, you're watching another girl

and her body and her pleasure and her getting like all worked up and fucked. Yeah. Literally like, and I was like, I don't really, I'm not upset. I mean,

I just wasn't upset with the idea. and I'd be like you're doing this all the time. Meanwhile, like, I'm definitely put now. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It just kind of bothered me. But then also like growing up and the older I got, I was just like, do your thing. Well, that's kind of how I was. I think it's an age thing. I think I care. It has to be. It is. I think it matters a lot more when you're younger and it becomes like a insecurity by yourself. You're like, oh my God, like what am I doing? Like, what am I not giving him that he has to like resort to that? Or is like just something else when he says Yeah, I'm like, that's just not, that's just not the deal, like, at all.

Like, it's just so much more of like, they just want to get off quickly and that's that. Yeah, like, it's just a vessel. It's not personal. Yeah. And I used to be like, oh my God, it's kind of personal. Right, right. You take it personally and it's just not personal at all. Yeah.

Because I want to be the only one who turns someone on. Like, if we're together and we're in love, I'm just like, you should look at me and look at pictures of me or whatever. If you need a nude, we've been dating for like XMAT. You know, we're secure. Yeah, like, I got you. Because, look, as long as he can still, like, you know what I'm saying? If he could be, he could be watching all the porn in the world. And then if you, like, as long as he can still get it up for you, like, that's, that's the only place where it's a problem.

If you're like, oh, my God, my boyfriend watches so much porn. And then, like, when I try and I'm sex with him, he, like, he, you know, can perform. Then it's like, okay, that's a problem. That's what I think it is. And I think that's something, like, a few. That's a thing. Like when I was like 19, I think I definitely had the same thing as you being like, oh, you're like watching all these other women and like, I'm not good enough for you.

But also we'd still have sex all the time and like whatever. And then I think it was like, I would text you about it and text like my older friends. And they would just tell me about they would be like, Ria, like it is what it is. You know, my older sister, she'd be like, you just, you know, got to accept it. Like as long as your sex life personally between the two of you is still great, then like, it's okay. Yeah, if it's not, and then they're doing that, it's like, who's really to blame here? Yeah, right.

How did we end up talking about this? I don't even know. I was like, I'm asking you guys are talking about models. We know, porn addiction. Terry Cruz. Oh, Terry Cruz has a porn addiction. And I was like, and it came up to my mind, so I figured I don't know. That was something I struggled with, honestly, and I was like, I really didn't like the fact that my ex

or my boyfriend at the time was watching porn and, like, getting off to, like, some other girl. I was like, it felt like cheating to me. And maybe I just, like, was young and a bit uneducated and just, insecure maybe i think there's always i fight everyone but i think every girl has that moment i would get so upset i would get i would fucking flip yeah you're going to get that you're going to go into bigger and better things because we're adults and you know we you don't care you live and learn you live and you learn but i wanted to mention um obviously you know rough and rowdy

your dad fought rough and rowdy it was a whole thing and you know we're not going to get too much into it but i do remember i was tweeting about the fight and I said it in my head I was like I don't want to upset Josie I was like I really don't no I know I was like I don't want to upset Josie and you tweeted something you're like please I don't want to be involved in this and you know people say fuck up shit online but there was one you tell my tweets I like well after my dad lost I like got ripped as shreds because I feel like everyone loves to go after um a close soft spot of the person who being attacked and that was me there's no other soft spot in the world besides me to my dad so yeah it was just easy easy for

the trolls on Twitter. It's also Barstool. Demographic is fucking. You're, you know, yeah, yeah. You're in the spotlight and like, you know, it's just an easy way to be like, oh my God, it literally, he has a super hot daughter. Exactly. Yeah. But your tweets, I felt for you. I was like, damn, yeah, this is sad. I hope she doesn't get mad at me for my tweets, like obviously rooting for the person that works at Barstall just because he works at Barstle, whatever. Billy, but I think, yeah, Billy. I think the funny thing that came out of it, if we can take anything away from it was Frank the Tank. If you follow Barstool, you know Frank the Tank. He tweeted. He tweeted. He out this picture, photoshopped of him and you, and it went like viral on Twitter.

I'm going to show you it. There you guys are. Mom again. Oh, no, yeah, I know. He told her. No, that's a screenshot. That's a screenshot of when she was calling earlier. Oh, my mom. You know I'm busy, right now. So I will put it in. I don't know if you can zoom it on the camera. But Frank the tank, he thought he had a shot with you. Thoughts? So this is where I stand with people who like to talk over the internet in general. I just, I know that people do it for clickbait, for, for profit, for sales, for attention, for whatever it may be.

And I just don't do it. And I understand that he's making controversy for barstool to maybe sell more tickets or whatever, which ended up making my dad more money. So who really lost here? My dad made like over a million dollars off this fight because y'all fucking boosted it up so much. No, yeah, man. Truly, Frank, thank you for the money.

Thanks, Frank. You paid my dad. Yeah. Thank you. But I don't know. I just think it's tacky. I think people who go above and beyond on the internet to, for attention and for sales, is morally weird. And it's just not how I stand as a human.

And maybe that's because I was raised in this light a bit and raised within fame, spotlight, family with attention me so everything I do is just like I would never like Photoshop a picture of someone just to gain traction on something you know what I mean or you know anything in that world I'm just not like that but I also I think everyone's demographic is is respectable and I think Barstool's demographic is very interesting and I think Frank doing that was was hilarious I don't also I never take it personally yeah I don't ever think it's serious because I know it's not coming from a malicious place. At least I like to think that. No, it's definitely not. I would hope. They're like, no, they're not thinking too hard about it. Everyone's thinking about themselves and like,

oh, how can I do something? Yeah. How can I make somebody laugh? How can I get like? How can we make more sell? Like sale, sell more tickets. Um, yeah. So yeah, I don't take it personally. I just like, I think I responded. Yeah. I think I was like, I'm honored. And just to put it like Frank, which is a pun on Frank the tank, which I didn't mean to do, but it came out. The visual. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. The visual of. you with Frank the Tank is just like obviously people are going to laugh at that. No, I think it's funny. I think it's funny.

And I think it's a, you know, we're just, we're building up to a fight that's going to make everything more successful than it was initially. So. Right. And I think, um, taking it lightly is a, it's a good place to stand. And I don't ever take it personally and it is what it is. Yeah. And I think I'm just like inevitably, what am I going to do?

Oh my God. How could you? How dare you? Like, no. I'm going to be like, oh my God. Like, funny. Good one. Like you're so clever.

great edit right great really what do you fucking take it and at the end of the day your dad lost but he also won like you said the money so it's like yeah i mean i don't know my dad does his own thing he's in his own world does his own thing tweets his own stuff um but yeah i know i think he made good money off it and um you know i know that he actually genuinely has had a lot of injuries in his life and a lot of pain and a lot of like physical suffering and for him to even take a fight at this age and this time is

is commendable. So, and he made money off it, which is something that he needed. I saw your Instagram story and you were like, you were proud of him and I thought that was sweet. I'm always proud of him. And like regardless of our relationship and like how things go down between us personally

behind the scenes, I, I'm sorry, I hit the mic. Mid like serious moment. I'm like, ah. Yeah, I know. I just, I love him. Like you have one dad, you've one mom and you've, you know, I just, as much as things get tough

between us personally, I will always respect what he does and then be there. there for him as a as a daughter family member whatever and that's a great way to look at it honestly i feel like i mean what else do you do you sit around you bitch and you mope and you hold regret and your heart like i would never ever want to sit around and just like be bitter and be upset and i think i learned that from seeing him be so bitter from his past with baseball and just work related type situations and yeah i just i don't know it's all good at the end of the day it's okay i'm gonna be okay You are like such a positive person and not the annoying positive person.

Like I feel like there's like toxic positivity where people are just like they wake up and they're like post on their Instagram story and they're like every day is a beautiful day. Like that's not true. No. That's not true at all. But I like your outlook on your family and your life and just not really holding grudges because there's a lot of people who have a lot of family issues that don't end up fucking with their family anymore because they're like I'm going to cut them out.

but for you, it works. Yeah, I mean, there have been times where you, you know, separate yourself from family members because selfishly you need to give yourself what you deserve. And I think it's unfair to put yourself through more than what you deserve. And you can't let someone continue a certain behavior because they need to learn that behavior at a certain point is not okay. And typically the way you show them that it's not okay by putting your foot down and disconnecting. So there have been times where I've had to disconnect from,

family members to show them that this is not acceptable and it's not okay and I and I hope we grow from this and I will always love you and I will if God forbid anything happens I'm there for you and I love you but you have to have respect for one another it has to be reciprocated it has to be loving and unconditional and kind so I try it's tough but I try and like you know like I said one mom one dad yeah I'm only child too so I'm like yeah that's another thing being an only child you make at work, though. Let's get into something fun. We have a game. We want to play Never Have I Ever. And Frangman has it. Oh my God. Don't we have to pee. Yeah. Wait. Should we? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. We're going to be here. We have a little fun. No, I'm going to tell the world because I don't want to

seem like an idiot all of a sudden. We're high. Yeah. There you go. We'll just get it out in the open. We went out for a smoke break. We smoked a blunt. And now we're going to play. Never have I ever. I've always wanted to say that I went out on a smoke break. But not for cigarettes because we don't like them. Yeah, we already talked about that. But like being like, I'm just heading out for a smoke break at the office. You know, we're bad. We got people at work.

Now we're high. All right. Never have I ever. Let's play it. No, it's, it's fun. It's not like crazy. Okay, ready? This is the first one.

Never have I ever ran into my ex partner while on a date with someone else. I actually have. I have two. You guys have? Yeah. I'm so jealous of that. That seems like such a little throat. It was awful.

Terrible. Because I like, at the time, I wasn't, I was like just kind of like seeing the new person hang out with them. And I still definitely talked slash loved that last person. Yeah. And I had no idea. And I was so caught off guard and I ran into them. Mine was in a restaurant.

It's like you just like, we're making weird eye contact the whole time. It's the worst. Especially if there's any feelings involved in either end. Like it's just, can I ask you guys? Did you think about that person the entire time you were on the date with somebody else? No. the time she goes fuck no yes absolutely no no

not even close I would have been like because I like the other I like the new person I like the new person too but I was worried about the old person the whole time oh to be fair I was worried about seeing them again if that makes sense cute never have I ever kissed underwater that's cute I've kissed under water I just remember I just around the little

I also choke Jesus keep in mind I'm gonna give you a visual I have to plug my nose when I swim So if my kids want to wear, I'm like, both these plugging your nose isn't going underwater. Seems like how would you even. Yeah, it's like not a good picture at all. No. Like definitely not something. And also seems like you get in the way.

Your note. Whole thing. Okay. You got to like get it up nice. It's awful. Oh, okay. All right. Ready?

Resque. Yeah. No, we like there. I mean, never have I ever faked a phone call to get out of a bad date. I actually never have done that. I don't think, I don't know if I had the balls to actually like lie. I've never been on a date. Oh, that's a reach.

Stop. You've been on a date. Ria gets high. She's like, I've never met a man before. No, but like she. You never got a dinner with someone? Even like, like. But they, no, but think of, well, okay, let's play this back.

I've been dating my boyfriend since I was 19. I guess I went on a date with him. Yeah. Before we started dating. 100%. But I feel like I never, well, I guess I, you know, the movies, but that's not a real date. That's when you're too. young to go to dinner. Have you been on a fucking date or not? I think I have. I think I have. I think I think

I have 100% been on a date. That's absolutely ridiculous. Hank would be so mad. Like if I said I've never been on a date. I've been on a date. I've been on. Every day. I go on a date every week. Yes, you actually do. Okay. So what was the question? Um, never have I ever faked a phone call to get out of a bad day. Okay. I've never done that. Okay. Never have I ever told a friend to break up with their partner. all the time i had one initial person and partnership come to mine and it was just like yeah no sometimes you have to yeah they're blinded by a lot of my friends have been like what are you doing you don't see it what conversation too people are always like oh like when you don't like your friend significant other do you say something or you just do you just like hold it back i

always say something always i don't say it until it's to a point where it's like so bad yeah yeah yeah to the girl or my best it's so obvious that it needs to It's like disrespect. It's like embarrassing at that point. Then you're like, listen. Right. And everybody's talking about it. Never have I ever been friend zoned.

Yes. Is it just going to be me? Oh, you two fucking hot bitches. You're doing it so fast. Give me a second to thing. No, I'm just thinking. Am I screaming? I'm screaming.

Keep turning down the mic when I get close. If you have to ask you if you're screaming, we want a friend and I scream all the time. I scream so bad. I got so mad at my boyfriend the other weekend because we met with, new people. No, I'm just, we might move new people and we were walking home. What does that mean? You met with new people? You and your boyfriend? No, no. Me and my boyfriend met with the... You guys swingers now? We just moved. We made another couple. We had another couple. A couple friend. We just moved and we were meeting with the owners of the

apartment. We moved into. It's a condo. So we were meeting with that. This is amazing new friends. Every podcast you talk about this apartment. I know, I know. I know. I had to slip it in there. But anyway, I, they had some wine for us. We're having a nice time. And my whole family, everybody jokes I, like, I have one sip of a valise of a valise. I have one sip of alcohol, I start screaming. Okay, I've been told the same thing. When I'm drunk, I get like really loud and Oh, God, we were walking home and he was like, he looked to me and was like, Fran, like, I, like, you know, I got to tell you, you just got to be careful with the yelling, like you were yelling like, yelling at these guys. I can't wait to be drunk and no boo in 20 minutes. And me, I literally, no, I'm dead serious. Like, I got so mad and he was like, you need, and then he was like,

you need to stop getting mad at me for like not serious things. Because I was like, what do you mean? I yell at Ben. What do you mean? I was like, what do you mean? I started yelling. He was like, he was like, Fran, you were talking very loudly to these very nice people. And I was like, I was like, I don't notice in the moment. I can't control it. So whatever. Yeah, because fuck it. Fuck overthinking what you're doing. Anyway, I have been friends. O overthinking. All right. Let's get real. Neither of you have been friend zoned ever. If you give me a second to think about it. I just feel like, here's the thing. Unbelievable.

I feel like anybody No, this is going to sound No, this is going to sound so fucked up. I don't even want to say it. I may have to cut it out after. You have to tell me how. Jos is too hot too friend zone. How conceited this is?

No, I was going to say, How are you now? This is super conceited. And so we'll cut it out if you guys think it sounds too conceited. I have you never been, like if I wanted to hook up with somebody, it happened. Like sex. Must be nice. I honestly, yes, but I also have.

haven't had sex with many like a lot of people i've made out with so many more people than i've like had sex with oh of course that you should and so what i mean like when i'm thinking like if i want to like like if i wanted to make out somebody it was happening that sounds i feel you i feel you i feel you i feel you it's rare that i do want to hit that especially when i'm out drunk and doing my thing like once in the blue moon i'll be like oh i'll see him from across room, I'll be like, it's a target for the night. But, but rarely do I ever actually do it? Because, like, then I, like, get closer to the situation.

I'm just like, what are you doing? Yeah, it's not as enjoyable. And I would just much rather not, yeah. Never been friends. Like any of those. Yeah, look, I've been friends owned brutally in college, but okay. That's fair. College is an appropriate time.

But if you were really close friends. No, it was one of my, yeah, it was one of my very close friends. But. So maybe you guys. I feel like maybe if you, I've never tried to like hook up with one of my really close friends. So maybe that's what it is. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I'm not getting friends on because I'm not trying to hook up with like my friends. Yeah. There you go. Well, next question. Next question.

I wanted to hook up with them before we were friends. But I mean, became friends and. I know. I was like, that doesn't apply to everyone. Yeah. I was like,

okay. Tell us the story. No. Um, okay, never have I ever had a crush on a fictional character. Oh my God. Is that me like an actor?

like Chuck Miles? Yeah, like a fake character, yeah. A cartoon character, a Danny Phantom. Okay, well, I didn't go cartoon character. I said fictional character. I didn't have good Danny Phantom. My first thought was like John B, like I wasn't going like. John B, of course, but Danny Phantom.

Danny Phantom. If we're going cartoon. I'm trying to think. Interesting. I think Chuck Bass is my like. Yeah, Chuck Bass. You know a really funny story. I'm just spill tea right now.

I don't know if we're going to, can you approve it by me before we use it of using it. So I met Ed Westwick with mutual friends out and about whatever. And we were just out, you know, hanging out, partying, doing our thing, drinking, have a couple drinks. And we went back to an after party or a place where we were around a small table. And I was like, can you please be talking about it for a second. You told him to get into character. I was like, pretend I'm Blair. Stop. And did he say? We were at a point. What did he say? he were fucking role playing but he was like I don't row playing I don't know we were just drunk and having fun

I was like can you please for a second like just for my like childhood and the nostalgia that I would have asked the same thing can you please be chucked bass for a second and he was like I think he maybe did it for like a second also we were like keep in mind not in our rights right he's also British in real life so like he can very much like turn on the truck bass and turn it off yeah I can say that 100% Francesca Marion would drunk screaming ask Chuck Bass to get into character at Chuck Bass.

100%. I think I've actually had more questions on fictional characters than I have real life people. When we were with the Jonas Brothers. Okay. I saw you guys tweeting about them like Fran was, didn't they fall? Okay. Did we answer you or something? No, but Fran was telling them things that I was like, Fran.

Loose lips. I had a couple drinks. And when I have a couple of drinks, I can't shut the fuck up. We need to get her. It's not only like, it's like have a couple of drinks and then put me with the man that I was obsessed with for decades. Like Nick Nick me too that was my pick she'll fight you on the spot don't even act like you like Nick more than friends don't even act like no it was like a week like the fact that I was even able to form words was impressive that's all

I'm gonna say about that wait what was you met them yes they came on our show interview we toured the Coors brewery with them cheers we we we cheers we cheers uh cheers we cheers we cheers which did cheers them, but we toured the chorus brewery with them in Denver, and then they came on our podcast afterwards. We also saw them play at Penn State, and then we all went to a bar at Penn State together after. How did this all happen? Well, one, I'm obsessed with them,

and I told them our talent bugger that I would literally die to have them on the show. But they had actually all started with Barstall, had a Best Bar, college tournament, I'm going to do this spiel in two seconds. Everybody's listening. We've heard about this a million times. Okay. All right.

So best bar competition. It was like March Madness tournament. You vote for colleges and their best bars. Penn State has one called champs. Best bars. Best bar. Yes. Shout out champs.

We love champs. Champs. The man who runs champs is a bar. Yes. Champs is a bar. At Penn State is like childhood best friends with John Taylor, who is the John's brothers, like he was their guitarist. and then he's on their management team.

And so all of a sudden, Joe Jonas started tweeting about champs and using like hashtag Barstall Best Bar. And we were like, why is Joe Jonas involved in this? Like what's happening? And so we got involved being like, well, Joe Jonas wants champs to win. We want champs to win. So the guys at champs reach out to us and said, hey, come when the Jones brothers are playing at Penn State.

We went. We had great tickets. We went back to champs out. after they came back with us. We had drinks. We chatted. We met their manager. And we said we would really love to have them come on our show.

How do we make that work? No, having drinks. It was good networking. And then their manager, you know, reached out to our talent booker and said, hey, we, the Jones brothers are going to do this limited edition bottle of Coors Light. They're going to be out in Denver. We can announce it with the girls. If you want to send Ria and Fran out to Denver, we'll hang out of course.

You can do the interview and we'll announce like that they're doing this beer. And it worked because Cores was also a sponsor of our show. That's the only way I ever heard of it was to you guys. So you guys are- Yeah, yep. So it was through us. And we were like, wow, this is perfect. They're a sponsor for us and they love Cores.

And it was just a match made in heaven. A beautiful, beautiful love story between us and the Jonas Brothers. Yeah. All right, let's do. Okay, I'm going to do one more. Two more quickly. Okay. Okay, hold on.

Some of these are like. Get some good ones. I saw the stupid one that was up. No, I know. I'm skipping some of them. I've looked under the stars. It's like, oh, it's supposed to be like, never have I ever dated someone 10 years older than me. Are you trying to shoot at me personally, Fran?

Just say it to my face. I think she was. I was. Say it to her face right now. Um, take a drink. We know. Tends the cap. Yes.

For me personally. Is it the game? I mean, I feel like age truly, truly is a number. and granted there's there's only so much connection that can be built like true genuine connection but I've heard so many stories that are like

girls dating like way older 80 year old dating the 20 year old but they happen to be billionaires majority of the time so I'm just like right it's really happening here but I don't know I don't know okay well she should take a sip of that okay never have I ever

I just skipped it now I got to remember what it said Oh, called someone, called a partner the wrong name. No, I've actually never done that. No. What if you didn't remember what that partner's name? What? A full-on partner? No.

No, no, no. Not full-on partner, but like at some point, like, one of the first couple times that you were like hanging out with them, hooking up with them, whatever. And you went to say, name and it wouldn't come out? No, my friend knocked on the door to make sure I was okay or that we were like good or whatever and I was like, what's his name again?

Oh, no. No. It was Mike. Well, at least you guys were really, it was in the beginning stages. At least you guys had a long, like great relationship after that. No, incredible. No, but that was just like, does that count? Maybe cut that.

We can end on that note. I like ending on that note. She's like, I'm starving. one. Yeah. It's like, please, can we go eat?

No. What are you pausing on? Oh, no, I was looking to see what else was on there. And I, nothing good. Yeah,

I think those were good ones. Yeah. Well, Josie, we're not going to cut that out because now we have to keep that as our last one. Sorry. I was drunk. I'll do one more.

I was drunk. Okay, we'll do this all day. The game stuff, I'm like, I know, it's like, we gotta,

we haven't eat. No, we need to do. Never have I ever dated someone twice. Oh, I have. Like, relationship relationship breakup then date them again okay but like how long is a breakup like a real breakup

like a year like a year like you break up like a year yeah we're gonna hit we're gonna label that a year no never no i mean we've dabbled with the idea but it never ever like it what i actually what we have fought now what i don't even know i just no i'm trying because like the word dabble we've said it a truly it's inappropriate it's appropriate It's appropriate for every occasion. Oh, I'm just, I'm just dabbling my foot over there. Yeah, exactly. Getting our toes wet.

Exactly. That was the end of never have ever. That was the end of never have ever. Josie, thank you so much for coming here. Thank you for making the trip. I'm so glad this finally happened. 20 minutes. 20 minutes while you were late.

It was actually 45 minutes. Yeah. It actually worked out well because we were running so. We were late as well. So it worked. But thank you so much for coming on. This is a blast. Thank you for having me.

All right, everyone. And that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. We are happy to be back in New York City soon enough. Soon enough. I won't even say it. But soon enough, everybody, love you. Have a great week. And we will talk to you all on Wednesday.