Chicks in the Office - Kardashian Halloween, Jonas Brothers Christmas + Andi Dorfman Interview

Episode Date: November 4, 2019

CITO Merch: > http://bit.ly/citomerch. WDIJST (10:43-17:25). Kardashian Halloween, Kendall's birthday party, Rob Kardashian, Kylie/Drake Rumors (18:37-41:12). Demi Burnett & Kristian officially split (41:48-48:19). Selena Gomez posts update on her relationship status (50:29-53:31). Possible Jonas Brothers Christmas album? (54:03-1:01:18). Interview with former Bachelorette, Andi Dorfman – talking everything Bachelor, single life, the NYC marathon, Tyler C + more! (1:03:40-1:27:00). Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat & our new YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

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have the guilt of eating a ton of Halloween candy this weekend because I went home to Long Island and my mom who is just an angel. Shout out to my mom. Just the sweetest angel on earth. Just shoving Halloween candy in my mouth. I'm on my way out. She's shoving it in my bag. It's not fair. I've eaten so many Kit Kat, so many nerds. Nerds is like my favorite candy. Nerds is like, there's so many candies that come out around Halloween that you never eat like any time during any other part of the year. I don't eat nerds at any other point.

Like I'll have a ton of nerds during Halloween. You buy the little cute Halloween packs. Wherever I can find it's coming. Wherever I can find a nerd rope. I'm eating one. Nerd rope, sure. If I see a nerd rope, it would be a sin for me not to buy it. I'm talking like a box of nerds.

Yeah, I mean, whenever it presents itself to me, sometimes they have the box. What do you mean presents itself? They sell them in every, like, drug store. No, but sometimes they sell just the big box, not the big bag, just the big box that's half purple. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. And sometimes I'll buy it because I like nerds.

Okay. Just to get some nerds off. I love nerds. Love nerds. Very fair. I just had two boxes. We have had a lot of Halloween candy around, the office a lot.

Yeah, that's what I feel about. That's really the only time I've been eating candy. Because I don't get trick or treaters, so I don't have to buy, like, I don't buy candy for my apartment that I just end up eating by myself. I just, I just don't. Although this is the time to buy it because all the Halloween candy goes on sale. Yes, and then it turns into Christmas candy and then Valentine's Day candy and then Easter candy and then every holiday I've had this candy for way too long. Right. How long before you throw out your candy? Oh my God. When I was little. I made my Halloween candy last till mid-December. Christmas. Definitely. I'm thinking definitely past Thanksgiving. I've had Halloween candy past Thanksgiving.

That's a long time. Were you like a competitive trick-or-or-treater? Oh yeah. Just super competitive trick-or-treater. I could see that. I was way too lazy. Oh, my God. My, we would go out and then come home and it was, I would sit on my floor in my basement, pull out all my candy separate it into like categories so like I have chocolate on one side and then all the chocolate separated into each brand each type and then all like the sour candy and I literally would like memorize in my head how much of what like how much of like the big stuff I had little stuff you could kind of get away with it but if I got the big like bags of sour skittles and then I would be like okay I have three bags of sour skittles like if one of them is gone I know it was my one of

my siblings. Damn. So you were really strict. Oh, no. Like my siblings could not. Older sibling thing. We didn't like, we got into like full bone fights if one of us took each other's Halloween candy.

Like my, we would hide it. Like our sibling, we would each hide it like in our rooms and we would like know if one of us took a piece of candy. See, me and my brother would kind of team up and just go after my sister's candy because she's the oldest sibling kind of like your brother and sister. Yeah. And just go for it. And yes, we would get into screaming fights.

screaming matches over Halloween candy. Did you take my last back in the shower skittles? And then your mom's just like, guys, we can just go to the store. I can get your another back. It's going to be fine. It's no big deal. And just looking back, it was like such a huge thing though. Yeah.

Well, on the topic of Halloween, I mean, like we said, we've been talking about Halloween for the past three podcasts for some reason because Halloween has lasted over. And celebrities love Halloween. Celebrities love Halloween. You got to dress up this year, although we talked about maybe not. not dressing up and then finally it happened. I did. You know what? I just really wanted to do it because last year we didn't dress up and I didn't like do any costume at all last year and I was so sad about it and I really wanted

to dress. Because like I was sad this year. Like I was fine going into it last year. Like I was like oh that sucks like I can't dress up. But after Halloween came and went I was like wow that really sucked that I didn't dress up you know. So I didn't want to go through that same feeling again. So I did Billy Elish on Halloween Day And I got my boyfriend to agree to a couple's costume Yes, you did. For Friday night. Okay, so I got like sneaky side confirmation because he had said to one of my friends

That my or either he said to one of my friends or maybe he just said it to me. I don't remember. But that my hypothesis or your hypothesis was correct. Which one? when you said when you were like well Joe like probably heard the podcast yeah yeah like got jealous that you were going to have a sick costume and he wasn't going to have to have anything so then he agreed to do a couple's costume and he basically confirmed that that was it he was like we can't go to this party and you're like look so good dressed up but my

costume sucks so then he agreed to do it with me obviously we did ratatooie and everybody loved it yeah it was cute you guys were posting pictures you were like on his shoulder yeah it was just one of those funny things where if you like If we were separated, people would be like, oh, cool, like sick, like mouse costume, Franz. Fran dressed up as a mouse. And Joe's, like, dressed up as a chef. And they're like, oh, okay, okay, like, way to put in a lot of effort. But then they'd be like, oh, like, oh, like, a mouse.

I'm like, yeah, kind of. I'm a rat. I'm ratatooie. And then I'm like, Ramey from Ratatooie, Joe's the chef. I'm like, Joe's Linguini. And then people are like, oh, my God, amazing costume. Yeah, I mean, they're just, you know, they got to make a lot of. the fact that they were shitting on your costume before that.

Yeah, once you just put the, like, the label on it. And Ratatoui is one of those movies that I think, like, everybody, you might not watch it that often, but when it comes up in conversation, everybody loves it. Also, I think people get confused because I just did, like, the rat is not called Ratatoui. The movie's called Ratatoui. It's Remy, yes. Yes. But then you always just think Ratatoui.

Right. You know what I mean? Like, I always think his name would be Ratatooie, yes. But he can cook Ratatooie. Yeah, okay. Moving on. Anyone can. Cool. Nailed it, friend. I was doing it all night long. Just had a wood, carrying around a wooden spoon.

And I was like, that was just, that was just me. A rat who can cook. Love that. Yeah, that's great. It was fun. That's great. All right. Well, you had your wedding. Yeah, that was not your Halloween costume. No, it was a lot of fun, though. I got to dress up. I was sad that I didn't dress up for Halloween. Really sad, actually, because I was seeing so many Halloween costumes. I'm like, damn, that would have been good. I wanted to be Sailor Moon. I saw somebody do a sick sailor moon every year i want to be sailor moon damn i think i'm going to be it next year because it's i have a lot of ideas now yeah i have so many ideas of what i want to be did you watch sailor moon when you were let me yeah i did um now i just i'm like damn i didn't dress up but i did dress up for a wedding not the same but i did wear a red dress that i like so that's yeah yeah

that's good i got to wear some lipstick it is sitting on your couch no no no if i just sat on my couch the whole weekend and not dress up didn't have an excuse or anything at all it would be really sad. Fair. But I was sick, which is why I didn't dress up for work, which also made me sad. And then I had to leave work because I was sick. A whole big thing. But I'm getting back to it. It's a new week. Yeah. You're back in the studio feeling good. We have a full podcast topics. Andy Dorfman's on this podcast. And it was a little solo interview because like Ria's just that she was really struggling last week. No, I was really dead. I don't know what I don't know what happened. But then I just turned into a juice freak where I couldn't stop ordering from juice generation while I was sick.

I had like four cold warriors. I had this thing called The Cure. My stomach was burning from this shit. It was like really aggressive spices. I don't think you could just like eat all of that with like nothing else. Yeah. And I wasn't eating anything else besides chicken noodle soup. Yeah.

So my stomach was burning, but I think I beat it out of my system. Hopefully. That's good. So now I'm just trying to change my life around like completely. You know when you get sick and you think about all the post sick. Wow. I should change my lifestyle. Yeah, I'm just trying to think about how I need to just, like, when you think about you're sick and you're thinking back to the times when you didn't feel sick and it was so amazing.

Yeah. You know, like, wow, I should really take her in my body. Right. Like when you get a headache and you realize, oh, my God, my head felt so amazing before I had this headache. Yeah. So you really just have to appreciate these moments when you're not sick. So it's a very Sunday scary feeling that I'm having right now. But that's okay because I feel like a bunch of people can relate to this on a Monday morning.

Just change your life around. Like I'm talking about going to the gym this week. Will I go? Who knows? Yeah. Who knows? You're thinking about it. I'm definitely thinking about it.

The thought is there. I'm sure you guys are with me on that. People think about going to the gym. How about the people who are also thinking about going to the gym? You DM you. We motivate each other. Let's get there. Let's get to it, guys.

It's November. I don't know what that means. Maybe we're going on vacation in December for Christmas. November. I'm not. This is like a bizarre switch, but. on Friday, I was overhearing this woman who had such a great accent, like a classic Long Island accent.

And I heard her talking to your friend. She just goes, happy Friday. Happy November. That just sounds like my family. It was just amazing. All day long, I was just going, happy November. So happy November, everybody. All right.

Time for our segment. What, did I just send that? Which, Fran, I think that. We need to add some more segments. I think that what did I just send that as fun? But we need to add something else. So guys, send your ideas of some fun segments you want to do. I kind of want to do like a call-in type of segment.

I just don't know how we set that up. Maybe that's a Noah thing. Yeah, yeah. I think that's a Noah thing for sure. I thought we talked about that before. It would have been like chick chat. Yeah, we did and then you never ended up setting it up. What?

No, you just never. No, remember it was like a thing? What? No, it was a thing. It was a thing. And then all of a sudden we just never heard it. about it again. Because you didn't want it. Because I would, I would, I will jump in between you guys on this one. We definitely said it, but then, I mean, we never followed up on that. We never followed up. But then I, if we'd been like, let's do it this episode. I would have had it ready. All right. Well, maybe we need to start doing it. We'll think about that. Because I saw some people being like, you know what? It would be fun if you talk to your listeners. And I, I agree with that. We have them on the Friday radio shows and it has been good. Oh, when people call in. Yeah, it is fun. So if you guys want us to do a call in segment and, uh,

Just let us know. Because I think we need to add. Add another fun one in here. All right, let's get into this. Whoa. Did I just said that? So back in my one night stand years, still do them from time to time. A girl's got to eat.

I hooked up with a guy that I went to school with in the men's bathroom at the bar in East Bumblefuck, Maine. Well, I had an on and off again relationship at the time and we were currently off. They were on a break. Uh-huh. Friends reference. No, I wouldn't like that. So anyway, a few weeks later, we got back together. my best friend sent me a video of me hooking up with that guy in the bathroom.

I didn't know there was even a video. So I sent a text to my boyfriend. A video? Yeah, there was a video from inside the men's bathroom. That's crazy. Incredibly sketchy. Yes. I didn't know there was a video.

So I sent a text to my boyfriend telling him there was a sex tape of me hooking up with a guy in the men's bathroom. But I accidentally sent it to my father. Oh, no. He didn't respond and I didn't say anything about it either. We both act like it didn't happen. P.S. He and I are no longer together for different reasons as he's an arrogant, egotistical cheating ass hat.

Hell yeah. Let's just throw the insult in there for fun. So then I responded back and I said, your dad never answered. And she goes, no, my dad never responded to my text. We both acted like it never happened. I said that's wild. She said wicked. That's probably what I would do with my dad.

Like if that happened to me and my dad, we would just, we would just ignore it. If I sent my dad a text saying, dad. Well, not saying dad, but just saying there's a sex tape of me in the bathroom. My dad would freak the fuck out. This is the thing. My dad and I are very close, but like when it comes to anything like that

is just not uncomfortable, but like there's an awkwardness to it. So I think this is what, like he would go to my mom and be like, Laura, like, do Francesca accidentally sent me this text message? Like, what do I do blah? And then my mom would probably come to me

and be like, dad wants to know this. And I'd be like, oh, so sorry. Like, I have to explain it to my mom, but my dad and I would never talk about it. Oh, that is crazy to me. I don't know how you could just send that. And then act like,

act like nothing happened. Poof. Honestly. I didn't just text tape might be different. Like, he might be worried about a sex tape. Yeah. Maybe. Your dad wouldn't respond to a sex tape coming out of you.

That's, actually, I don't know if you. I'm not quite sure. He might send like a bunch of question marks. Right. Like, huh? Like a classic dad text.

What would like a billion like question marks that actually make your capitalized? What? You've had sex before? Yeah. I think that, well, I'm not going to say it. I'm not sure if my dad listens to the podcast or not. I can't put my finger on it.

Yeah. I would think he does. I feel like my dad would probably, I don't know if he would freak. He'd probably freak the fuck out and then go like Chris gender mode. Not in the fact that he would like promote me in my sex tape, but be like, all right, we need to nip this in the bud. You would find whoever did this and fucking track them down. Right.

Well, I'm sorry that this sex tape exists of you now with this random guy, but you know what? Maybe it's nice to have to remember the good times. Yeah, you know. And it sounds like were they having sex or were they just like make it out in the bathroom? She said hooking up and then she said there's a sex tape. So I think by hooking up she means, what do you think about that by the way? Something past making out what the hooking up? Yeah, the word hooking up?

The word hooking up. I feel like that equates to we did more than make out. It could be anything. But when I was in high school, when I say I hooked up with somebody, it means I made out with them. Yeah, yeah. I think it just graduates to different levels as you get older. Right. Because it's like, because everyone just like kind of assumes that when you hook up, you are doing more than just making out.

Right. And if it is just to make out, you're like, oh, I just like kissed a boy last night. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I made out this guy last night. You would just say made out. But now if I hooked up with somebody random. of my dad not now i have a boyfriend but i would be like oh i hooked up with this guy all right well then i think she had sex with him which a sex tape girl it is what it is you just have to kind of own it

and the fact that your dad knows kind of should make you feel a little comforting like my dad knows there's a sex tape out there of me and he doesn't really care true otherwise he would answer true and i also hope that like i also hope this didn't spread for her yeah for her sake yeah like Like, I'm so confused about the whole, like, filming aspect of this. Like, were there other people in the bathroom? Like, what? Maybe. Well, maybe they were drunk in a communal meds bathroom and shit was going down and somebody came in.

I mean, think about those viral videos online when you see people having sex in public. You're right. This is that girl. You're right. All right. All right. So what are we rating it? Security camera.

No. No. What are you talking about? No, like, say you're like in a stall or something and like there's a guy at the urinal and he's films all the weird noises he's hearing from stop. Right, at the bottom it happens at like ball games all the time. Yeah, yeah.

Every type of ball games. I literally was about to say ball games. The reason I said ball games was because I wasn't sure. Which one I wanted to go with. Baseball, basketball, football. All the ball games. All balls. All balls. All ball games.

There's sex happening. Whether you like it or not. Let's rate this story. I get this one a seven. six. Ooh, okay. I'm going to go I'm going to go 7-4. Yeah. 7-4. This one's in the 7s, guys. Give us a 10.

Give us a 10 out of 10. Knock it out of the ballpark. All right, friend, let's get into the topics for today's podcast. Obviously, a lot of Halloween-filled topics because Halloween lasts more than day. Like Chrissy Deegan said, this year, it lasted for like 10 days.

It's never-ending. A lot of Halloween content. We had Kendall Jenner's birthday party. Apparently, there's rumors about Kylie and Drake. I don't know if I believe it. Christian and Demi confirmed they broke up. Selena Gomez says that she is single after being spotted with an ex. We think that the Jonas Bellers might be releasing a Christmas album. And we have Fran's interview with Andy Dorfman.

So let's get started talking about Halloween. All right, Fran, it's time to talk about Halloween. Spooky. Ooh. Okay. Nobody loves... This is really just like... like a Kardashian Halloween segment. Nobody loves Halloween more than the Kardashians or they

just like ball out as much as their Kardashians do. Right. All weekend long, Kim's just posting more and more photo shoots that they did with the whole family where everybody's just dressed in bizarre costumes. I'd like to know when they organized this. Is this around like months ago when that's what I'm saying. I'm like, did they have to take these photos? so long ago they must have i feel like Halloween for the Kardashians has become like an instagram holiday yeah like it is the national holiday of Instagram yeah because they're not going

they just have these family pictures they're not going anywhere in these costumes they're not stepping outside of the little bubble that they're in taking these pictures they just dress up they film it for instagram they're taking pictures besides kendall's party which we'll get into later they're doing this all strictly for Instagram, which I appreciate. Keep giving us that content. I truly think this is my favorite Kim Kardashian caption of all time of the Flintstone's photo where Chicago is photoshopped at the bottom. And she wrote, this family pick was such a challenge because Chicago was so scared of dino, LOL. We tried to explain and show her that it was just daddy, but she didn't get the concept yet.

So shout out to the photographer for editing her in and making our family Flintstones dreams come true. I would bet a billion dollars that I don't have that the Kardashian children have no fucking idea what the Flintstones are. They have no idea what the Flintstones are. Like not a clue. No idea. Our family Flintstone dreams have come true.

The Kardashian kids don't know what real life is. You think they know what the Flintstones are? There's no way. Also, I'd like to say, Noah could have done a better job. at photoshopping Chicago into that picture. It was a terrible photo shop. It was a very poor Photoshop.

It was just terrible. I mean, Quigs or Noah could have put something together that was better than that Photoshop. I mean, very funny, but a little more edit. You guys should have the best photoshoppers in the land. And time after time after time, you prove us wrong with small little edits. That can be fixed.

And this, the big photo of all of them, first of all, I want to say that Saint is the cute. human. So cute. The biggest smile. Oh my God. But North in this family photo, the Flintstones, had me dead. She had, she's got one hand on her hip.

Her right foot is like popped. Like she's like on one foot is like on her toes. Like it's such, it's such a pose. North's a diva. North had a bunch of solo shots. I know. It really is such a diva. And then they have this, um, worm costume.

The Westworms. I was confused by that one, but listen, Kanye doesn't like a Halloween costume that doesn't have a mask. Masks only. Masks only. Yeah. So you got to do what you got to do. He's also rocking the new Yeezy things that kind of look like Crocs on his feet to match the costume. In the worm costume?

Yes. Are you zooming in on it? Yeah. Do you remember when those came out, they were like the Crocs, Yeezys? So Kanye's going all out. I think Kanye has just so, like he sold his soul to the Kardashians. No matter what Kim says, like you're going to dress in this costume and you're going to like it, Kanye. Because I finally all weekend I was like, but what like did they go trick-or-treating?

What did they trick-or-treating? How many costumes did they have? What's going on? How many photo shoots did Kim have to do for Halloween? Because not only did she have her family photo shoots, but she did like her solo costume too. And then I think last one, I think they went trick-or-treating. the sing movie costume where Kanye is a giant gorilla and she wrote Kanye went trick-or-treating like this and could hardly fit in the car car they go trick-or-treating in a car

maybe they go to a different neighborhood that's such a rich person thing they just get driven around from house to house imagine they don't even walk they just they just pull up and stop and the kids run out at each house I would think that they were trick-or-treat in their own neighborhood because it's like anyone anyone that lives in maybe a gated community because I was looking at like Justin Beaver reposting like the younger Beckham kids who were just like shout out the Bebers for the snow cones. I'm like holy shit they just like went trick or treating at the Bieber's house. I've never been more jealous of a child besides the Cardassian children themselves all of them I would like to be anyone north saint Chicago anyone you would like to give me. I was. I was.

was so jealous of this kid posing with his damn snow cone jason beber posts on his story come to our house we have the best trick or treating snow cones and everything like just didn't not everyone can show up to your house you're bragging now okay the beckoms get to show up and they get snow cones the becums can get snow cones whenever they want yeah they're the becums yeah what about chiffos and the marianos of the world we want snow cones we love snow cones yeah love them where's our snow cones on Halloween. Maybe I don't know. There's a, where, I just assume like the rich kids, the Calabasas, probably really just take it home on Halloween night. Right. Like, I'm like jealous of like five year old kids I don't

know that live in Calabas. Me too. I mean, if I could rebrand my entire life or just like die and come back as somebody, it's a rich kid in Calabasas. They just live the life. Even if you're not a Kardashian, you're just a rich little kid in Calabasas. I said on radio that I just want to be like a rich person on Halloween because you just get to ball out so hard. Like I was saying like Kylie and her friends dress as Disney princesses. Sexy Disney princesses. Oh yes. Must clarify.

Grown up Disney princesses. I was like I have always wanted to do that with my friends. But like I would have to buy the costume that you get from like Party City or like Spirit Halloween. And I'm sure it's like doesn't look good. and it's kind of shit quality when like Kylie probably has all of her costumes handmade for her and her friends

or some designer makes them for them and they like look so good and I would just look like the fucking garbage version of that like dressed his bell from beauty Yeah it's just I actually was thinking I was looking at the costumes wig looks so good I'm like what everybody's great wigs I order my wig on Amazon

and those wigs look like ass Yeah I mean I want to say though When I saw the Disney princesses I was like That'd be fun friend would make a good bell I would be either Sleeping Beauty or Cinderella, I think. I like Sleeping Beauty, though. I like the pink. Yeah.

Ariel was always my favorite, so I would contemplate, rock, and a red wig. But like I said, my wig would probably be shit. Yeah, it wouldn't be, you know, Kylie Jenner actually dies her hair or puts a wig on you. This is when we need a little more money next year to be funded for our Halloween costumes. We could pay whoever. Kim made a full-blown video. You know what we need to do? We need to, like, work on getting.

a lot of bonuses and then around Halloween time next year. Just use it all. And then use it on Halloween. A Halloween production budget. A Halloween production. And have the best Halloween ever next year, Fran. Because I'm dressing up next year. And I'm going to be at this Heidi Halloween party.

I'm telling you, you can go to the Heidi Halloween party next year. As the years go by, I'm seeing who's there, what's going on. I feel like that is an invite that you can obtain. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. It's Heidi, it's Heidi gloom's Halloween party. Like, it's just too cool. You know, everyone there is so cool. I'll walk in. He'll be like, who the fuck is that girl? I don't really know if it is what it used to be. You think so? You think times have changed? Yeah. All right. Well, I don't think I, because I just see like, when I was looking at red carpet photos from this year, it's not really like huge A-less celebrities.

Yeah, I feel like, well, I feel like when there's parties in L.A. And then there's, parties in New York. Yeah. Then all the celebrities are in L.A. And then there's not as many in New York. It kind of depends on the year. I feel like if a lot of celebrities are in New York, they'll go to Heidi Klum's. Yeah.

But they're in L.A., they're going to do something else. Right. A lot of models. A lot of models that... Exactly. But that's always... A lot of models always are at Heidi Klum's party. Exactly, which is like...

One of the reasons why I'd opt out. Like, oh, man, those models in their Halloween costumes, what am I showing up in? Well, we would have to go for, like, maybe not necessarily funny, but it would have to have to be like super creative. Super creative. Yeah. Bigger budget. Right.

We're not going in like a bra and underwear and like and putting cat ears on. Like we're going to go like it'll be something more intense. I went Friday night when I went out for Halloween a little bit and went to a bar and I, it was like the definition of the memes of like, oh, two types of girls on Halloween. Like I was Billy Elish in a fucking massive sweatshirt and basketball shorts. and I was looking around the other girls and I was just like, oh boy, do I not look sexy? Oh, Fran.

But you looked cool? No, but it was cool. That's what I'm saying. And people appreciate you. I looked cool. Thanks. People appreciated the fact that you look cool. Titties popping everywhere, but Fran looked cool.

Exactly. I went for cool. Forget the nipples. Fran looks like Billy Irish. Exactly. So that's what I'm saying. If we went for cool, then we would be okay. because obviously you're not competing with like fucking Barbara Pelvin.

No, no. Barbara Palvin's showing up. Although Barbara Barbara Palmer's dress. That's a bad example. She was basically in a sweatshress. Bad example. Because she and Dylan Sprauss always do like an, I feel like an anime-esque costume. I'll give a shout out.

Charlotte Delessio, who I follow on Instagram. She's like friends with all those pretty Instagram model. Not Instagram model people, but like Madison Beer and all those people. They're not Instagram models. I would like to retract that statement. She dressed up as Betty Boo. Amazing costume. Just unreal.

And you got to be super hot to pull off that wig. Totally. I love to be Betty Boop because my grandma loves Betty Poop. I have a Betty Poop. My great aunt loved Betty Boop. I have a key chain. I was because I had A.M. Betty Boop. Oh, yeah.

And Betty Boop. My grandma's name is Betty. Wow. Yes. So shout out to Betty Boop. Which I was like, damn, that'd be a good costume. But I cannot pull off that wig. But these celebrities, they can pull off anything.

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Friday and... Halloween. Another Halloween party. Well, no, she celebrated it Thursday, sorry, on Halloween. Because there's nothing better, I think, than having a birthday around Halloween where you can have a Halloween-themed birthday party. that's awesome. Theme birthday parties are always the best anyway. So being able

to lump that with Halloween where everybody can just dress up, but it's also about you. It's pretty great. It's pretty great. She had at least six other Kendall Jenner's dressed up as her Met Gallo look in the entrance of her party. All of the celebrities in L.A. were there. Gigi Hadee was there. Bella

Hedeed was there. I saw that page 6 and Leonardo DiCaprio was there. Maybe he was with Camilla Moroni. Who knows? Yeah, that's true. That's true. Haley Bieber was there. Rob Kardashian was there. Mother fucking Rob Kardashian. Love left the house.

I'm so happy for him. Honestly, round of applause to Rob. I saw that this was like, this is like the first time Rob's been spotted at a public event in over a year. Plus. It is insane. And you know what?

I'm so happy for him. I just want him to have fun and go out. Me too. I want Rob Kardashian to be happy. And it looked like he dipped into the, the Kardashian Jenner surgeon. Looks like he got a little. jaw surgery, whatever he's got going on, maybe some fillers, I don't know.

But I think he's lost some weight. He lost some weight. He got that jaw. People were commenting about his jaw line, but I think he must have had plastic surgery. I mean, come on, it's the Kardashian family. Everybody's using it. I'm sure Scott Dissick hits up the surgeon every once in a while. Who knows.

But shout out to Rob from making an appearance for his sister Kendall. Exactly. It was very, very nice. I think that Rob was there. And then, of course, everybody looked awesome to me to Bell Hadid in the weekend. The weekend. Yeah, they're not together, but the weekend was there. I didn't see him, though.

You didn't see him? He was dressed as the Joker. Oh, that was him? Then I did see him. Him and Jane and Smith were posting together because Jason Smith dresses Tyler the Greater. You could not tell. You could not tell that it was the weekend, but yes, that makes so much sense.

I was trying to figure out who the Joker was. He was in every picture. I was like, who is this guy? I thought it was another one of their friends. Good old able. Oh, Abel. You jokester, you. I mean, he looked awesome.

Like you would never be able to tell how that was the weekend. I didn't know it was the weekend. Bella was like Catwoman. Gigi was the mask. It was really good. Gigi was the mask. It was so good. Can we talk about where Justin was?

I know. I texted you. I said, Haley Bieber dressed up as Lola Bunny, which was, I mean, adorable, obviously, very cute costumes. She looks so cute, but like no bugs. And I said, I texted you, I said, Justin didn't dress up with Haley.

And you said, he had to have. You don't dress up as Lola Bunny without bugs. And I said, no, no, no, he's, go look at Justin's. I watched a story. I was sitting on his ass at home, giving out snow cones to children. And drinking, drinking a beer watching Dexter. Having a Corona. Having a Corona watching Dexter.

How are you having a Corona watching Dexter, but you can't hit up the Halloween party for a little bit? I'm sorry. I know. I guess he didn't want to go. He has problems. He doesn't want to go. He doesn't like to be in that setting. I get it.

I get it. But you're going to let Lola Bunny. I just feel like that's cool on his part. But you're going to let your wife dress up as. And like giving out stuff to kids. I don't know. No, but. Haley also posted that she was at home

and then at night she went to the party. You're going to let your wife dress up as Lola Bunny alone? If I had to guess, they talked about a couple's costume and he bailed at the last minute. Because I just don't think you would dress up as Lola Bunny without Bugs Bunny. Right. Like Dylan and Hannah dressed up as Lola Bunny.

Yeah. Imagine if Hannah dressed up as Lola Bunny alone and Dylan just dressed up as didn't dress up or something else? Or just didn't go. It would be like, where's bugs? Like as soon as I saw Haley dress up, up as Lola Bunny. I was like, oh my God, we're going to get a Haley and Dustin couple Halloween costume. No, we didn't get that and we didn't get a fucking Met Gallo picture. Of what? At the Met Gallo. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Correct. You're right. You're right.

He doesn't like these things. I know. It's just unfortunate for us as viewers, but it looks like he had a great Halloween night. Yeah, he was chilling. Like, that's an ideal night. Wow, watching TV and drinking my corona, yeah. Yeah. But also, I mean, Kendall's party. I mean, awesome. ideal night for us is going to Kendall Jenner's 24th birthday party. Kendall's party looked like so much fun. Yeah, so and then there's also like all these Kylie Drake rumors that are circulating for like the past couple of weeks.

Everybody's like Kylie and Drake spot at the same party talking in for a long time, spot it out his side like during the party. I don't buy it. I don't buy it, but I just don't know with Drake. Like I think I want to trust Drake, but I think that Drake. but I think that Drake is more of a snake than we like to think. Oh, 100%.

Like, if I had to guess, Drake is, I could see Drake putting it on Kylie for sure. Right. But would Kylie do that to Travis? Like I think, I think, the father of your children. Right. I think Kylie is just like,

child. They could just be friends. Right. And the thing is, though, is Drake a friend of the family anymore? He literally said, Drake literally implied that he fucked Kim Kardashian. I mean, he implies.

Because he's still getting invited to Oh, Kenneth. Every, like it's Kendall's birthday. Like they were all at Drake's birthday party two weeks ago or whatever it was. And I do think that Kanye and Drake ended up fixing problems behind the scenes because Kanye said that Drake wouldn't talk to him for six months, which I think implies that Drake did end up talking to Kanye. Right. Who knows? All I know is that Drake implied that he fucked Kim Kardashian and I'll never forget that.

Like I'm sure Kim's. I'm sure Kim doesn't really get along with Drake. But I think that maybe Kendall and Kylie do. Yeah. And listen. Kim was at the party. Just Courtney was there. Listen, Chris Jenner, thrown out a little Drake and Kylie rumors.

That doesn't hurt anybody. No, it doesn't. It doesn't confirm anything. It just makes Travis perk up his ears a little bit and think, hmm. It was cool seeing Courtney dressed up as Casey Musgraves and then just like, bam, like taking pictures with Casey Musgraves. It's like. Yeah, Casey Musgraves is so cool, honestly.

Oh, yeah. I think that's all I'd like to say about her sometimes. It's just she's beautiful and so cool. She's, yeah, yeah, that's really all there is to say. stunningly beautiful and probably like so chill to me all with. And great singer. Yeah. And just I'm just like I want her be her friend. They're like they're all just so lucky.

They're friends with her, you know? Yeah. She quoted your sister's video. She did. I don't know if you guys saw them. My little sister and her housemates dressed up as, they all dressed up as pit bull. It was very funny.

And Barstle posted the video of all of them dressed as people. and it was circulating on Twitter like other people obviously were posting it it was funny because like some random dudes Twitter account went viral because he took the video from the Barcelona TikTok

and Casey Musgraves retweeted and was like this is the best thing I've ever seen and that is not hyperbole I was like what a cool fucking tweet to get from Casey Musgraves Right like her calling you cool it's fucking cool like so cool

there's no question about it And Pitbull retweeted them too What a dream hilarious Miss a 305 My sister's living on a high right now I'll tell you that much. I would love to see Pippel in concert. I don't know why I just feel like a Pipple concert in Miami.

Might be a fun time. I wouldn't go out of my way to see Pipple, but if it ever just presented itself to me, I'd go. You know, I have something to admit when I would go to, like, jingle ball and like Zootopia when I was little. Or not, I mean, it wasn't little, but younger. Like in middle school, Pipple, I think there was multiple times that Pippel performed.

And like it was a running joke that like that's when we would go buy our t-shirts. Like we'd be like oh like Pipple's on like time to go buy our T-shirts. Yeah. I didn't respect it as much as I do now then. Like I was there for like one direction. Like I wasn't, you know what I'm saying? You weren't thinking about dancing to Pipple. Right.

Right. Like that was the time that I was like, okay, I'm going to get my T-shirt. I do think that Pipple is kind of like a joke. Like when people are like, I fucking love Pipple. It's like. Yeah. You love Pipple, but you don't, you know, you don't really love Pipple. But I think everybody knows that, like, one of Pipple, you can respect, like, when a Pipple song comes on and everybody, like, goes crazy.

Yeah, you're not going to not dance to Pipple. Exactly. One of my favorite Pipple songs is crazy with the K and Lil' John. Pipple and Liljohn is such a great combo. Have I heard this live? Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Duh.

Buh. Yep, yep, yep. That's just bad on me that I would, didn't know that the song obviously was called crazy when they, that's like the only lyric that they say. Crazy with a K. Yeah. Great people song. All right.

Well, did anything else happen? That was Kendall's birthday. Yeah, that's it. I don't know. I mean, they all looked beautiful. But Kendall went as a fairy. Was she a fairy at her own party? Yeah.

Did Kylie dress up as a fairy for that party as well? I get confused because there's so many costumes. I'm like, what do they wear to which party? Kylie and Stasi also dressed up as fairies with Kendall. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. I mean, fantastic.

Once again. Once again, they nail it every year. Having a billion Halloween costume, this must be nice. We talked about it last week. We thought that there was something going on with Demi and Christian. From Boucher in Paradise, we assumed that they were headed toward a breakup or already broke up. Bam, Thursday, the podcast comes out in the morning and Demi posts a Instagram talking about how she and Christian are no longer together. She posted this long statement about just how, you know,

they want the best in the long run for them, and right now it means being a part and growing individually. She wrote, we have felt so much love and support from you all as you followed our journey together. And for that, we are grateful. We will forever be proud of the impact our love story has made, and we hope it has helped others feel more accepted and confident within themselves. We hope it reminded others they aren't alone and don't need to be ashamed of who they are. And we hope it shows that two people can love one another in different ways. And for us right now, that is a part. But we remain committed to encouraging each other, supporting each other, continuing forward in a best way for us.

Yeah. They're broken up. Yeah. They both posted the same exact caption. Yeah. Which was a little odd to me. But I guess if you're doing a joint breakup post, it is what it is. I guess why not just copy the same statement?

I'd love to know who wrote it then. You know, like, did you write that together? So you guys decided you're both going to post the same one. Did you guys have a PR person work on that? Like, what was the move here? I think, first of all, it's sad because I like them as a couple. I really liked watching their story on Bachelor in Paradise. And I think it was great for all of the viewers to see their story on TV.

But I think that this is something we all saw coming. They weren't posting together. I think that Demi is trying to live that influence her life. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that if that's the way you want to go. I think she's very much trying to do that. But I think that Christian is not really trying to do that. But I don't know. This is just an assumption from what I kind of got watching them on the show a little bit.

Yeah. because obviously Demi came from The Bachelor. Krishna did not. Maybe the lifestyles just aren't matching up right now. And it is what it is. I think that they're going to get a lot of unnecessary hate from people because they think they have to be together. Right.

But if they don't like each other anymore, or not that they don't like each other anymore, but they don't see it working out, you can't force it. Totally. And now, I don't want to say this. but I'm going to say it because it is a feeling that I have and I don't want a lot of you guys. Yeah, I mean, you got to be honest. This does not look good for the whole Demi and Christian

went on TV to get engaged just because they knew it would be good TV. Right. I agree with that 100% because... And it's tough because we love Demi. First of all, we love Demi. And I think at the end of the day, for the greater good, it was great to see that relationship. on TV.

Yeah. But it makes me think that it was all a little bit more manufactured and that it was the plan kind of going in that they would show this relationship. They would be an engagement and I mean, already broken up. Yeah, and that goes along kind of what I was saying about Demi wanting to be like an influencer and trying to get the followers and whatnot. And it does kind of point in that direction. You know what I mean?

It does a little bit. All of a sudden, as soon as... I don't want to believe it. I don't want to believe it, but it is something to think about... It does a little bit. Just got to show both sides of the story here. After the finale of Bachelor in Paradise, did we see anything from Demi and Christian? Not really, no.

We didn't see anything. The finale happened, and, you know, we see Kailen and Dean everywhere. We see Hannah and Dylan everywhere. And those are two couples that I believe are, like, for real, very strong and have built a foundation in their relationship. because why wouldn't you be showing it off? You know what I mean? I don't want to sit here and act like, oh, maybe they wanted to keep their relationship private

after the show ended. No, you went on a show publicly to date each other. Yeah, yeah. And then all of these couples are posting together. Yeah. What happened there? Yeah, it's definitely something to think about. Now, like we said, obviously we do love Demi.

And Trent proposed this last week that I think was a very interesting idea. Demi as the next Bachelorette guys and girls that rights itself and that's why all of this is manufactured a shot at love with tequila but on ABC and with Demi I mean if

if the Bachelor knows what's right for them yeah that's what it is that would be probably the most viewed season of the Bachelor or Bachelorette by far that would be amazing yeah that would be be so good. Yeah. And obviously, like, that's from a pure just TV entertainment standpoint, because I think obviously that also opens up the question of how genuine would that season be. Like, is Demi really trying to be engaged? You know what I'm saying? Like, that would open a whole another conversation. Right. Is she faking it again? But entertainment factor, oh boy, that would be,

because then you could have potentially contestants that are vying for Demi hook up with each other who knows what can happen that house would be wild and I don't even I don't know if they would be prepared to keep that under control I don't think so no I think they could

it would turn into I mean MTV has done the last season of Ari the One was just like everybody was hooking up with everybody there was it was not just like boy and girls, boys and girls. It was everybody, everybody was hooking up with each other. It was

very entertaining to watch, I will say. Yeah, I mean, the Bachelor producers, I think, can handle anything. I was going to say, you know what I mean? Like, can they keep it under control? They keep everything under control and you really think about it. I just feel like they have such a structure to their show that they stick to so closely

that like if something different happened, I'm not sure if they would handle it the best way. Right. But I think it would be a major change, but a change that should happen. They definitely should do a season like that in the future, whether it's Demi or not. Right.

I think that they should. And also, what a call by trend if it happens. Yeah, 100%. All right, we had Spleana Gomez giving us a relationship status on her Instagram story last week. But before we get into that, do you guys have student loans refinancing them with Ernest could save you money or lower your monthly payment, and it only takes two minutes

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She was seen with her ex. Yeah. And, you know, of course. Sam crossed. Yes. In the firefest. documentaries. Yeah, don't forget that he was in the Fire Fest documentaries. Don't remember if he was, yeah. Don't just want to throw that in there. Don't remember if it was

the Hulu one or the Netflix one, but he's in one. He's in one of them. And they were spotted out together and then Selena Gomez posted on her story that she is single. She has been single for two years and that she is on God's timing, not her own. Now, it's interesting because my first thought was okay she's been single for two years but it was like March 2018 the last time she was spotted with Justin and there was all those rumors about Justin they were hanging out a lot and I guess

they never like actually really got back together maybe it was just like never official like they were never like girlfriend and boyfriend at that time but she said that Justin moved on from her within two months yeah um in her latest song. So if you got to stick with one story, so you know, were you single or were you dating Justin? Maybe she just likes to like forget that ever happened, you know, maybe to feel better.

She's like, you know what? I was single. We weren't really together. We never made it official. But they were seen from like October to March. Yeah, it was a long time. It was a few months. It was a long time. Um, but maybe they never made it official. Yeah. Interesting. She said she's on God's timing though. Everybody's on God's timing nowadays. I'm trying to get on God's timing. Yeah. I think we are. You think we're on God's. I think we are. Yeah. I feel that sometimes

about like things that happened to us. Yeah. And I mean, we did go to Catholic school all our lives. Yeah, we did. And, uh,

I thought of like with the Jonas brothers and everything. I felt that. Like it was just, it came at the right time, not planned it, but that was, that was God's timing. Felt like that.

Um, also manifestation. Totally. 100%. 100%. 100%. So what also kind of talks about this is no matter who Selena is spotted out with no matter what like people are going to think that they're dating which happens with almost every celebrity but especially with an ex and i was almost surprised that she even addressed in

the first place because she is slowly making her way like back into social media like she was so social media quiet for so long and then over the weekend she was posting all these cute stories with her grandpa in the house um her grandpa was making was cooking her breakfast and her breakfast and her breakfast. They were filming each other. It was so cute. And I was like, wow, I feel like we haven't seen Selena like this in a very long time being like, just having fun on her Instagram story. And it made me happy. Yes, this is what we need to see. It makes me happy too. I love seeing Selena be active. She's moving up on my charts of favorite people on Instagram. I know. She's great when she uses it. Right. When she's on it, it's great. It's good to see. She's healthy.

She's happy. I am loving Selena Gomez these days. And I can't wait for her album. Not to alarm, everyone, but we think that there might be a Jones Brothers Christmas album coming. And if that is true, it will be the best Christmas album that has ever been released on planet Earth. I tell you, I had chills listening to myself. Just imagining Joe Jonas and Nick Jonas and Kevin Jonas singing mistletoe or just anything or just, I don't even know what mistletoe is, just singing that missile toe is just singing that mistletoe is a Justin Bieber Christmas song so if the John's brothers wanted to a vision a version of Missletoe do it I don't know why I was thinking of them singing mistletoe and it just was like the Jonas brothers covering Justin Bieber or just the Jonas brother singing any Christmas

song in general all I want for Christmas is you I mean I'm really hope chills I really I'm so psyched and now I have it in my head that it's a full album so I really hope it is and it's not just like one song or a feature on a song or something. something because it was Friday they all changed their profile pictures on social media to their like headshot with a little Santa hat on so cute the Joe's brother's Twitter account like retweeted something with they had three Santa emojis so it seems like something is definitely happening I mean I was texting you and I was just like just imagine Joe singing chestnuts roasting on an open vibe like it would oh my gosh.

God. Pretend my voice was Joe's voice. I don't even want to tell you the thoughts that are running through my mind. I mean, I'm picturing Joe Joan is lying by the fire. Oh, my God. With a Santa hat on. Think about the music.

Just a Santa hat. Only a Santa hat. Fire in the background. You're picturing it. Everybody's picturing it right now. Now we're all picturing it. You're welcome. Don't tell it.

That's graphic and perverted. No. So, okay. Look, it's a thought. Nick is next to him. I went, I just thought that, that switched to me in my brain. I was like a super cute video. This is going to be a big switch from what you just said.

Them, maybe a Christmas dinner. They're all together. It's the little kids. They're all singing. They're all singing joy to the world together. Our minds went in completely different. Completely different directions. They're married with their wives and their kids at the dinner table.

and I in mind Joe Jonas is naked next to the fire. No, I was thinking of like Kevin's daughters like singing Christmas songs with them. Don't bring up Kevin's daughters and Joe Jonas naked in the same sentence. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay. Give some space.

Anyway, I really hope, I'm hoping that they throw some like originals in there. They do some remakes. Like very Justin Bieber Christmas album-esque because let's be real, like Justin Bieber's Christmas album has been the best Christmas album to come out in a long time. Right. Besides Michael Boubley, which was years.

Years ago. Like, Michael Bubley, I associate, like, with Christmas. I can't remember any, like, Christmas album in the last 10 years that I have listened to as much as the Justin Paper Christmas album. I feel that. Well, they came out with, like, original song, but, like, original songs that actually were good. Although Ariana Grande has that one that I really love. I said Cheetah Girls. I didn't mean to say Cheetah Girls.

Oh, yes, Cheetah's Christmas. I'm kidding. Has that been in the last 10 years? That was 2005. So no. Okay, so there you go. Then I was right. Oh, Santa Tell Me.

Santa Tell Me by Arna Grande is a banger. How does that go? Santa tell me, do you really care? I can't hit the high note. Care. Yeah, nah, nah, nah. It's a good one. And like I said, Justin Bieber had so many.

Missletoe, obviously. It's iconic, but just like a little drummer boy with Buster Rhymes. Yeah. Maybe they'll have some features. I feel like the Jonas brothers are releasing a Christmas album because they probably sat with their people. They were in a room and they're like, all right, brothers. What else can we do this year that we haven't already done?

Documentary. A book. Book. Coors Light Tour with the chicks in the office. What do we need? Tour, new album. Christmas album. Yeah.

We need a Christmas album to really just blow the brains off these Joe Bros. Once again, just take all my money, Jonas Brothers. just take it all. That doesn't require them taking your money, the Christmas album. Yeah, it does. I buy their, I like buy their album.

It's gonna have to buy like a record too. I support them as artists. You buy their music? Yeah, like I mean iTunes is like kind of... Honestly, I do that with John Mayer. Like, I buy the album just to support him. Yeah. Look,

iTunes like doesn't need... The iTunes store doesn't even exist anymore, so like, I don't know. It's tough, but... And you can barely find CDs, but I did, I ordered like the CD online, so that counts, which I would totally do again with the Christmas album. You know what they should do?

Maybe like two nights Christmas special show in New York. They should at Radio City. Music Hall. I feel like Radio City is probably booked up for the holiday season already. Yeah, but have the Jonas probably come out. They should think about that also. I would buy that in a heartbeat. It also just reminded me that I've gotten one of my Jonas vinyl club shipments.

And that was like a pretty long time ago. I haven't gotten anything. about a second. Well, don't get me started on their merch team. Fair, fair, fair. Very fair. But I'm now I'm wondering, now I'm wondering what's going on with my second shipment. I still haven't gotten a record player. Anybody out there have a record player? So they're all just sitting to the office. My first shipment is just in my apartment now, just waiting, itching to be played. Maybe I'll get one for Christmas. Imagine a Jonas Brothers Christmas vinyl that you could play at your house while your apartment's decorated with a Christmas tree and Christmas lights and warm

cookies and milk. The Christmas tree sent a candle. Yes. Oh my God. You just got goosebumps. This is like truly orgasmic. Right. Your friends are over.

You're drinking milk. You're having cookies. The Santa cookies with the little Santa faces. The ones that are so fake but taste so good. Yeah. You're at your apartment so you don't have a fireplace so you put the YOL log on the TV. Yeah. Yeah.

And you act like you're like sitting. and buy it, spreading your hands together like this. I'm going to cry. Merry Christmas, everyone. Yeah. Halloween's over. Merry Christmas.

Merry Christmas. I'm a pretty strict, like, I don't listen to Christmas music until after Thanksgiving. Just because I respect Thanksgiving, even though I feel like people don't. Yeah. Now that they don't,

it's just like, November 1st to December 25th is a long-ass time to be listening to Christmas music. Yeah, it is. way too long. Like, I like having those few weeks where I listen to nothing but Christmas music is special to me. Yeah, December. It's all about December. December is the Christmas month. I also think it's not quite cold enough yet. Like, it always has to be like very cold for me to start

listening to Christmas music. Well, if the Jonas Bellers released a Christmas album before December, I mean, yeah, no, forget it. You're going to have to listen to it. Yeah, yeah, of course. We have a great interview with Annie Dorfman, a little solo interview. But before we talk about that, let me tell you, Andy Dorfman is going to need a CBD bath bomb after running the marathon. I guarantee it. And I hope she uses CBD MD. CBDMD is a trusted leader in the CBD industry that is committed to promoting natural support, recovery, and relaxation. They have a wide variety of THC free products ranging from classic CBD oil tinctures to CBD gummies and even a full line of pet products.

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she's been super sick she like skyped in for our show yesterday so she's been a mess but I'm very happy to have you here Andy and also I am dressed up as Billy Elish right now so I was like I like it though because you could totally pull it off without even saying you dressed up as anything yeah like it's it's super comfortable like it's I Billy is she's young she's 17 so like She always gets not criticized, but people are like, why she dressed like this.

She doesn't give a shit. And she doesn't give a shit. And now that I've like put it on, I'm like, this is why she dresses like this. It's fucking awesome. That's how I feel about like this. I mean, doing marathon press. I'm like, this is perfect because I wear track suits and sneakers. Yeah.

How are you doing? You ready to go? You got what, two days? Friday, sorry. Two full days. I'm ready. I'm definitely nervous, though. Yeah.

It's freaking New York City Marathon. And you ran the Chicago Marathon. right? Oh no, you didn't. No, this is my first one. Sorry. Okay, this is your first marathon. No, this is my first marathon. I ran like a couple little races in between, just to prep for it. But yeah, just going for the big one. Wow. And what made you want to do this?

I don't know. Have you always been a runner? Not always. So I started running a couple years ago. I always, I tell everyone I'm like running in air quotes because I literally used to walk and run. I'd run west side highway. I'd meet my girlfriends like down at Brook. field for drinks or city vineyard for Rose at sunset and then I'd count it back home. A social runner. Yeah. I was definitely a social runner. And then it kind of became like my main form of exercise. Like I travel a good amount and trying to find like a gym. I always liked working out. I always

like staying somewhat fit. But finding a gym sometimes was impossible. So I just started packing running shoes and I'd run in cities and I remember like I was in Paris one time and I was just like running along the river and it's just cool. I was like, damn, I would have never done this had I not just picked up a pair of running shoes and gone out for a run. So it kind of spiraled into being my main form of exercise, I would say. Yeah, that's awesome. And like you said, you're running.

This, it is a marathon. Marathon Sunday is one of my favorite days in the city. I know. Because while you guys are all running, I am boozing. I've been on your side too. It is my favorite day of the year. Like this, it'll still be my favorite day. I'm just going to have to postpone a little bit.

All my friends are super punch because we always go out. people don't realize what Marathon Sunday is. Oh, yeah. It's big. I would say it's the biggest holiday in New York City. It is big. I think people maybe don't realize if they're like in different areas, but I live on the Upper East Side and everybody runs literally up first half.

It's right outside my door pretty much. So for years, like it's amazing. Like I wake up. I can just like go downstairs, go to the bar that's like right around the corner and like wave at everyone as I'm drinking my beer. And it's like to me, always used to joke, it's like kind of like the deadline day. Yeah.

If you're a single chick or a single guy, it's like winter is coming. Yeah. Cuffing season. Yeah, the last Sunday to get like super drunk and try and go find somebody for winter. And it's great because I think Marathon Sunday, especially in the city, brings you to like maybe different bars that you don't normally go to. Totally. Yeah.

I live on the west side and we always go east side because what people don't realize is the whole marathon has run like Brooklyn and then the east side. There's nothing on the West Side Highway or anything. So you're right. It does. It brings you to maybe like meet different people than you're normally with. Like hit up Murray Hill. What's up, boys?

Yeah, exactly. It's very funny. And you're not the only Bachelor contestant running. Correct. Tyler C is also running. Yeah. Have you guys talked about this? Oh, yeah.

We talk all the time. Yeah. I actually just talked to him the other day. He like, when it got a fractal facial, I'm like, dude, your face is going to be burning. Yeah. Like, what? Sometimes with him, I'm just, I love him to dad. I'm actually super close to him.

And sometimes I'm just like, what are you doing? Yeah. What are you thinking? He's young and I feel like he doesn't know. He's such a great. He's also like so great and so nice that you can't help but just like laugh at some of the things like going to get fraxil laser.

Right. Your face off three days before a marathon. I saw that. It was like the blood, like the blood facial and everything. I'm like, what are you doing? Also like you're good. Like your skin is good. No, but we talk a lot actually.

I think we're supposed to run today. And then he's like, oh, I forgot him in Boston. I'm like, oh, too bad. Yeah. But we'll give like tips and stuff. And he did Chicago. Right, right. He did.

So he's kind of got a leg up on that, like having experienced it. But yeah, we're cool. We talk about running. We also like went to the same school, different years. Right. Went to the same school in the same city, Bachelor Nation. Yeah. Kind of migrate together.

That's very true. What's your, you have big plans post race? Oh, yeah. I'm partying for sure. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My family's coming in. I don't exactly know because my friends are throwing some party for me,

which is fun for me because you got to realize I'm 32. I've never had like a wedding. I've never had a baby shower or bridal shower or whatever. So I'm like, this is my wedding. This is my wedding. I was like, this is my time. This is my wedding. So all my friends are like getting together and throwing a big party, which would be fun.

That'll be so much fun. And honestly, they're like hasn't really, I was trying to think as I sat down. I was like, what kind of like fun bachelor stuff can we get into? Because you've been, you're a little far removed from it a little bit. But also there's, I don't think there's that. many. There are, but like, I feel like everybody that lives in New York who's been on the show, kind of keep a lower profile.

Like, they're not as... Agreed. Active in, like, the influencer game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I totally agree. Like, a lot of people have moved to L.A. now in Nashville, and you're right, they're much more active. They also, like, kind of, they hang out more. I feel like, there aren't as many in New York anymore.

Yeah. I feel as though people come to New York thinking it's somebody awesome and not everyone's make it in New York. It's a tough city, you know. It's not the easiest city to live in, so they quickly fade away. But yeah, you're right. We keep a lower profile. I think that's New York in general, though. That is true. Even like any, like, celebrity who lives in New York keeps a pretty low profile. Right. Like, you go to L.A., and everyone's into that world. Everyone's, you know, doing the influencing and going all the parties in New York. I mean, you could just keep your head down and keep a little profile. I like keeping a low profile because everyone stays out of my business.

That's very true. I will forego a couple of Instagram opportunities. to like keep stuff under the radar. Yeah. No, that's very fair. And because you see, I don't know if you saw, but there's now a Bachelor, like, Happy Hour podcast that Rachel and Allie host. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

And Nick was on recently and he talked about, it was very interesting because he talked about how he feels like there is becoming even more a divide of the older contestants who were like, who social media existed when they were on the show. But like, it wasn't as. huge as it is now compared to like the contestants that were on hand or Colton season. Totally. Who you're like, did these people just want to be making money on Instagram? Yeah.

And Nick can also test this too. It's crazy for me to see it because what did I do the show? Maybe five, six years ago. Yeah. And I remember, so I went on Juan Pablo season and they told us, all right, you have to make your profiles private. And we're like, all right, fine, whatever. And I remember after the show started airing, the numbers of followers started to

go up and up. I think, you know, maybe hit a couple hundred thousand, maybe 200,000, something like that. And then after my Bachelorette season, it was the same thing where we went on private. All the guys had to deactivate or go on private. And you started to see it a little more and a little more. And then it was Chris Sewell season, who was The Bachelor after me. And those girls, I always give credit to them in the sense of like they took the influencer game to the next level. They were walking off there with a million followers. And now you just see it just grows every single season. where you don't even have to win the thing or come in the top two to walk away

with 1.5, 2 million followers. Right. It's crazy. It just, it wasn't that way. And I talk also like about, I talk about this with Trista, who is the first one. And she always jokes, she's like, damn it, you guys are, you know,

you're crushing it on Instagram. Like, we didn't have that back in my day. But it's all different because, like, she got paid a million dollars to do her wedding. Right. You know, versus now nobody's paying for tabloid photos or magazine covers. So it's all just kind of relative, but it does seem to just keep getting bigger and bigger and bigger.

And then I also notice with the ones that, I shouldn't say younger, because they're not all younger, but more recent. Yeah, they kind of have a little air to them that they're like, oh, who are you? I'm like, who are you? I was like, you know. And then it's funny, though, because I went to stagecoach and like a couple of them were like, hi, I'm sons. Like, who are you? And kind of looked at me.

I'm like, A, this is my table. Yeah, yeah. I was like, and B.I was the bachelor. And I'm not the table person that would ever, like, throw that. into someone's face. But then you also have people like Cassie came up to me. Colton's girlfriend. Cassie Randolph came up to me.

She was like, oh my God, I'm a super fan. And like, you know, so you do have people that'll stay true to it and just kind of admit that they're like a super fan. And then I feel like you have some of them that don't want to admit that they're fans of the show. Yeah, that either have or don't want to admit it or have truly like not watched the show. Yeah. I feel like they all have because they're all so well versed now.

They get it, but I also, they get it. They get it, but I also think they get it in just like a reality TV sense. True. They're like, this is, I want to be on reality TV and like this is how I'm going to do it. And then I'm going to go on Paradise and then I'm going to do this and that and everything. Because now we're like, after Paradise ended, you always get a few couples. Paradise has been pretty successful. There have been some couples that have made it.

But there's always like in these next few months where most of them start to fall apart. So like we just heard that Tasha and John Paul Jones broke up. Yeah. Which I didn't even know they were really together. I don't think they were really together in the first place anyway. And then like there's all these rumors about Demi and Christian not being together anymore. So it's crazy and it was just very interesting listening. And it's interesting listening and it's interesting to you and Nick talk about how there's like it's very different.

It's really different. What do you think like is going to happen to the show because I feel like it's just going to get worse and worse. Now even like Pete's season, we have people DMing us like being like, this girl is doing this or this girl did this. And they know the backstory and all these girls were like without fail, somebody's going to get exposed every season. Every season. I mean, here's the thing.

I don't think that it's worse. I think like using the term worse or that like, oh, these people, you know, are terrible is a bad way to. But it's just reflective of the times. Like, we are in a world that is full of social media and people do things to get a on social media and to make money on social media. And so I think The Bachelor and the Bachelorette franchise is one of those shows that has just been really fortunate in a certain way to be able to be mixed with the social media versus,

you know, you see some shows that the social media aspect just doesn't mix well. And The Bachelor and social media, especially Instagram, are just like fire together. Yeah. So I think it's going to just keep getting crazier and crazier. But I also think social media in general is just getting crazy. And there is, there's like, I'm sure you know, like, there's comments by celebs, but comments by celebs has like more accounts under their umbrella. So they have, you know, comments by athletes, influencers.

They also do comments by Bachelor. Yeah. And recently they snagged you and Nick going back and forth. What did it say? No, it was, I'll find it. I'm not a huge Instagrammer either, by the way. I always, my friends and I joke, I'm like, probably the worst influencer of the entire franchise.

I feel like that's kind of a good thing. If someone told me I never had to go on Instagram again, I'd be like, okay, where's the delete button? Right. It's just not, I like it in certain ways. Like, I like looking at other people's stuff, obviously, and keeping up. But yeah, it's a lot for me. Okay, let me.

I'm scared to hear this. There's horrible service in here. Okay, here it is. One of them was the picture of him with the little baby. And you were like, I'd be offended if he wasn't such a cutie. which is cute. Yeah. And then Nick does like his ask me anything like questions on his Instagram story and they're

all like relationship, sexual questions and whatnot. And somebody asked him having sex versus making love, can you be in a long lasting relationship and only have sex? And he wrote, I'm going to phone a friend at Andy Dorffman. Any feedback on this? Wait, what? This is how bad I am. I didn't even see this.

When was this? Yeah. years ago. Sorry, I didn't see it. Nick loves that though. Nick loves, well, that's why he's good at it. He likes to like kind of stir the pot a little bit. He has his own podcast.

He likes to bring people together and talk about it. It's like Nick does that kind of stuff and it used to get under my skin. But like Nick and I are good. I get it. So sometimes I just like to, you know, like feed the piece. Totally. I mean, when you run out of play along like. Yeah.

When you have that kind of relationship now where there have been so many ups and downs, but now you're like good. It's like it's fun to kind of mess around with him a little bit. I'm like, all right, this is kind of fun. Yeah, exactly. You get a little bit more taste of what's going on. He reels me into the Instagram game. It's pretty fun actually. I miss that one. Damn. Well, that's what I'm here for. I literally catch everything. Okay, one of the things I wanted to ask you, because I've always been very curious about this. And I've talked to, I've talked to Rachel about it. You guys both had very, like, legit, powerful job. before you did the show. And you kind of separated from that post show. How did you make that decision to kind of leave the law life behind? Okay. In full honesty.

Or did you hate the job and you were happy to leave it? I actually loved my job. I was a prosecutor. I was working in Atlanta in the gang unit, like prosecuting gang crimes, which sounds crazy. But it was awesome. Like, I really did love it. but I went to work at like 6 a.m. every morning and fought rush hour traffic and had a shitty, you know, office with no windows and was going to jail once a week to interview witnesses while they did God knows what behind the glass door. And I would leave at about 7 p.m. 8 p.m. hit rush hour traffic again. And I was probably making about 50 grand. So when the show comes along and they're willing to pay you, you know, whatever, probably your salary more, I don't remember back in the day what it was. And then you get all these.

opportunities, you kind of start to be like, hmm, I can go travel to Paris right now and get paid for it or I can go work in. Yeah, or I can go to jail. Go to go hang out in jail. Exactly. And it's funny because people like, I feel like back in the day we never wanted to really admit that, that was the thing, is that like the money and the lifestyle is what kind of drove us away from that. But I think now as it's getting more exposed and the fact that everyone knows, like, we're selling stuff on Instagram and that people are making money. Like that used to be such a hush, thing. You never wanted to have to do, you know, hashtag ad. You never wanted to feel like you were, you know, what do they say, shilling products. And now that's become so much more acceptable.

So I think it's like, all right, you know what? The truth is, I make a lot more money and I have a lot more freedom. And yeah, it's something that I worked really hard for. It's still something I could always go back to. But for now, like, why wouldn't I want to live this life? Right. I totally understand that. It's like what when you have, I mean, you went to school, you have the degree, you have it to fall back on if you ever wanted to. I can choose if I want to use it or not. Exactly. Exactly. And because I sometimes feel like not that people necessarily look down on it, but they're like, oh, they just decided to like be an influencer. And it's kind of like you have those two options in front of you. What like, seriously, what are you going to pack? Like seriously, what are you going to pick? I would take that in a heartbeat.

But it took me a while to kind of like come to terms with that because I did feel like, wow, did I just give up, you know, a great law degree and a great career for all of this. But I got to say, like, there's not a day that goes by that I'm not like, wow, this life is awesome. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just the things I get to do. And, like, I also know that I probably would not have been picked as the Bachelorette had I not had that job and had that background. Like, we all know that the lead is usually like a package material. So, like, you look at, you know, Pilot Pete.

Like, there's always got to be something. So I also think that's the reason I got the gig in. in a large part. Strong woman who like. Yeah. D.A. Yeah. So it's not like,

I didn't exactly just throw it away. Yeah. Definitely here. And not only have, you know, the Instagram, all that stuff, whatever, but you've wrote two very successful books.

Yeah. Like two. So that is also very, very cool. I've read both of them. I really, and I mean, I love,

I truly am like deep, deep, deep into Bachelor, or The Bachelor World. I know, like, I'm sure some people interview you and they pretend like they know, like, explain to them the process. Yeah, yeah, like they pretend like they know who everybody is or what's going on.

When honestly, I'm so deep. I've been watching with my mom since I was like 12. It's really most fun when you're deep because you're like, I know this character. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. 100%. And so, like, reading the books or anybody

who comes out with the book after the show, I'm like, yes. I'm like, tell me everything that happened. It is awesome. What would you say? was like the main differences in writing the first one and then writing the second one. Because the second one was kind of like more of an evolution. Like here's where I am now.

I'm happy. I'm single. Yeah. I mean, the first one was just, I feel like I blacked out from it because the whole way it came about was just nuts. I mean, I obviously was going through a really bad breakup, journaled, which is funny because everyone talks about how they journal on the show. And a lot of girls do because you have no TV.

You have nothing to do but like paint your nails and your nails and journal. And I never journaled throughout the show. But for some reason, I journaled during my breakup. And I moved to New York. I had no job. And someone was like, you should write a book. I was like, I don't know how to write a book. But I got in touch with this agent. She was like, go for it. Let's do it. And basically turned the journal into the book. But I had no idea what I was doing. It was such a big process. I had no idea. And then that book just like took off. It just, I mean, it struck gold in a sense. Like it was people wanted it. People needed it. It came at a great time. Then, of course, you saw, you know, the two guys that are in it go at it on Paradise and that just blew it up even more. So that one was just kind of like a whirlwind. Like I was like, what? I just became an author. Like, what just happened? The second one, I think was harder because it's like the sophomore album. You know, you've got to kind of like prove yourself. People say, okay, you can be a one hit wonder and great. Here's your first book and it's sold out and everything. But what happens with the second one? That's where you like, you have to really prove yourself. So that one

was hard for me, I think, like more emotionally and more from an ego standpoint is I've got to put something together that people actually believe in so that I can also make it a career. Right. Totally. Would you want to keep? Yeah. I'm going to. I'm on the third one right now.

Oh, that's very exciting. Yeah. That's awesome. I like it. And you know what? It's just, it's again, one of those things that it's like, I get the opportunity to write a book. Yeah. I'm taking it.

I know people that have written books, you know, and. tried to write books for years and years just to get a meeting with a publisher and the fact that, you know, I've gotten to this platform and I'm able to pitch out a proposal to the six big houses of publishing. It's like, I'm taking that opportunity. Yeah, 100%. Yeah. And you've been, so you've been in New York for, I'm going on five years in February. And you have loved it, hated it, been, will ever leave? Loved it. Loved it. This place is a freaking playground. I love it. I love it. How do you think the dating life is in New York? So fun. Yeah. So fun. It's tough because I, I had like one, I had one single year. Yeah. In between kind of relationships. I have a boyfriend now. But in that time, it was just kind of like craziness. And in a good way or no. In a good way. No, in a good way. In a good way. Where like people just don't, I don't know, single. Being single. In single in New York is so much fun.

I mean, no offense, Joe, if you're listening to this, being in a relationship is awesome. It's the best. But it is, it's like the bar say open so late. You meet so many different people. It's just fun. Yeah, have you have your girlfriends, like, were they already in New York? Or have you made new girlfriends being in New York?

I've made new girlfriends being in New York. None of my friends, I'm trying to think of any of my old friends. Some have, like, been in New York. and move back to L.A. and stuff like that. But I've pretty much made new friends all in New York. But yeah, it's fun. When I hear people say that New York, the dating scene is so hard. It makes me feel bad in the sense because I think it is hard if you are comparing

yourself to everybody else because there is a hot model that probably walked the Victoria Secret Runway show at any bar that you're at. You know, there is a hot guy, you know, in reverse at any bar that you're at. But if you just have fun with it, and you're like, you know what? there are so many opportunities here. There's so much fun to be had. I think people just put too much pressure on dating here. Totally.

And they compare themselves and this is the wrong city to compare yourself. Yeah, very fair. Do you ever use any dating apps or you kind of like, me in person kind of person? Are dating apps still in? Are they still? People still use them. I would say probably less like Tinder and stuff, but more there's like hinge and

kind of like. There's like the Raya one. Yeah, yeah. Terrible. It's just stupid. We were just talking about that. Because apparently Ben Affleck is on Raya now. And I'm like, oh, man, that's, but I've heard it, like, I've never been on it.

I've seen some pretty like top celebrities in there where I'm like, really? I've never been on it, but I've heard that has kind of become fairly oversaturated. It's super oversaturated. It's stupid. Sorry, Raya. I think one of my friends is like an investor in that too, so sorry, Mike. No, I don't, yeah, I'm just not really into it. I mean, I do think, look, again, with social media and technology being so proud.

prevalent. Like, yes. It's easy. Yeah, I get it. But I still like just going out to a bar and being like you. Yeah. And then whispering to my friends and we're sitting there talking for an hour about how he's hot and then he leaves and we don't say anything. Yep, exactly. Boy, does that sound familiar. It's pretty much how every night goes. All right, Andy, this was so much fun. Thank you so much for popping on. And good luck. Thank you. The marathon. I'm sure you're going to party your ass off after. Or else I hope you will. Yeah. I'll see. you guys Wednesday. All right, that wraps up.

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