Chicks in the Office - Kim K’s Back in Staten Island + Zac Efron & Amanza Smith Photo

Episode Date: December 20, 2021

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. This is the post-bachelorette finale episode and also our last episode of 2021. Trent is here with us. We're going to get started.

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I've heard of her, yeah. Okay. So today, Stasi Baby, who everybody knows, I love the name Stasi Baby, Stasi Baby's ass. Stasi Baby, who has always been Stacey Baby on Instagram, she is known as Stasi Baby, changed her name on Instagram to Stas, Corinacola Kakova. Her last name was very hard to pronounce. I may have been as very long. Her last name is like 20 letters. It is very long, very hard to pronounce. She is now official. New Era, she wrote.

Very upsetting for all of Stasi Baby fans out there. We're talking to chat. And I'm like, Noah, you should take Stasi Baby's handle because it's such a famous handle. Well, actually, I would like, I just said it as a joke myself. But you were like, oh my God, this is such big news. I'm like, oh, watch, I'll take her name. name like as a joke. I forgot you so, yes.

I suggested. You didn't even try and change your, you didn't change your username. You just changed your bio name. Yeah. No, but isn't that what hers was? No. I'm pretty sure her, her at wasn't Stasi baby, I don't think.

Her at was. Yes, it was. Of course it was. Well, whatever. So that's why we freaked out. She changed her actual username, not just her bio name. Either way.

All right, if you want to keep the story, but either way, I'm stuck. Either way, Noah changed, his name to Stasi Baby on Instagram. His username. And that is like by- I wanted to take a screenshot and send us it like a quick little joke for the group. That was all I was trying to do.

And now you misspelled it first. Yeah, I misspelled. I forgot the E. It was just Stasi I baby. And then I saw it. I was like, shit. And I went back to change it. Took a screenshot.

Then immediately went like, all right, now I'll change it back to my name. And it just was like, you've changed it twice in 14 days already. so you can't change it for 14 more days now. When I just says Stasi Baby. It says Noah Oz. Stasi baby. Which honestly is even funnier because it makes it look like, it makes it look like Noah either thinks he's dating Stasi Baby

or he's like a Stasi baby fan account. All right. Noah Ives and then immediately underneath it just says, Stasi baby. It's so funny. It's been cracking me up all day. So that is really funny. But are you maybe going to get followers from this?

Like are people going to search Stasi Baby on Instagram? And they'll find you and they'll be like, all right. I'll follow this guy. Why not? There's no Ives. Oh, I can go all in. No Ives and then Stasi Baby under TV.

What if I just changed the at too? Yeah. You should become a Sosy baby to a fan account. Yes. Just start post. Tonight, can you just post a single photo of Sassy Baby? Just no caption or anything. Just post a picture of Stasi baby.

Dude, like, if you can't change that name for two weeks, you might as well go all in, change the actual name to Stasi baby. Get a few followers and then in two weeks become no eyes again. Delete any, like, trace of myself. And then in two weeks, just all the Stasi baby followers find out who's been running again. At like, is Noah's my first search because I was just looking at it. before so I went to go search him again and this is Stasi baby

the worst thing is Noah Ives underneath Stasi baby my favorite screenshot that Fran sent before was no Ives Stasi baby followed by Glennie Balls plus 30 more it was so fitting that Glennie balls was the first thing The Glennie balls is

Glennie balls will follow any Stasi baby account like Noah's entire Instagram of his five posts and his bio and under his picture it just says Stasi baby. If you if you like DMs, I saw this. Because on the DMs, it only shows your name, I guess. So if you're DMing me, it actually just says Stasi baby, which is kind of funny. Watch out, dude.

Glennie might be in those DMs ASAP. Glennie balls will be in there. Stasi baby. It's just cracked me. That's very funny. If you go to message it says Stasi baby with Noah Ives underneath it. Hey. You were trying to get a laugh.

And now you got a lot of laughs. There could be worse names and worse people to have locked on my account. That's as good as it gets. Yeah, pretty good name, like, honestly. Oh, God. That's a good stuff, man. Yeah, but that'll be like that for the next two weeks. That's right.

Finale, folks. Three hours. The end of Michelle's season. Caitlin Bristow was the host. I also just want to say, if you're watching this on YouTube, please don't judge me for, I might, I feel very insecure about the back of my living room. It's not fully decorated. I know I've lived here for six months, but I just have this like, like the nothing's even. Like I have these two frames. They're my

starter frames for the gallery wall that I'm planning to do above the couch. I've just been very slow on doing it. So I just have this one other one lingering that's like not even and doesn't match. and nobody would probably care or notice besides me, but it's just bothering me. I usually take the heat on that because I have nothing behind me. I've lived here for six months as well, haven't hung a thing up on my walls. Yeah, I just got like half,

like I'm like halfway done. Like to me, yours right now looks fully decorated. That's a fully decorated living room to me. If you hadn't said anything, I would have been like, oh, that looks nice. I do have my corner lamp like you, Trent. Yep, there you go. Trent, why do you?

don't you though? Like just out of laziness or like you can't feel like comforted by no. It's not out of laziness. It's that I have I can't commit to anything to put on my walls because that it's it's the same reason why I don't have a tattoo because I don't know what I would get. That's a full on. I mean, I feel like I tattoo is way more of a commitment than like. You can take down anything from your wall.

When Robbie was a good guy toaster. When when, um, hold on store. Dot barstoresports. When Robbie was living with you, your walls were decked out. Yeah, because Robbie knows what he likes. He likes a lot. Yeah, he, he, he, he, he, he, he loves, I don't like, what do I like? What's your favorite movie?

Trent. I don't know. You like John Mayer. You like 50 cents. That's true. You like Iowa. Get rich or die trying up on there. But, but like, I, I can't be having that on my walls.

Like, I'm one old man. now. I can't be having crazy stuff on my walls. Yeah. So it's 50 cents. I don't know. What's your favorite show? Oh, boy. I don't know. Get a big band. I would hate to be on a date with you.

Is this how you like? No. But I don't know. What would it be if we just recorded all these with Trit and you just sat in front of his Big Bang Theory poster. Oh, yeah. And then, yeah, that would go over really well on the internet. I'm just saying that like, it actually doesn't bother me as much as it seems to bother a lot of other people that I don't have stuff on my walls but also I yeah I can't commit to anything I go on eBay a lot and I'm just looking at random stuff and I never end up buying anything and then I go to bed and I wake up

eBay what eBay yeah maybe you are that old look into my god it's around no I'm a buy it now guy I'm a buy it now guy for a casket tomorrow this guy's going to come soon eBay. No. I think eBay is a good. For stuff. Let's get into the recap. Let's do that.

I got something to tell you. There's this guy, Jeff Bezos, and he created this thing called Amazon. I'm out of here. All right. I'm going to try to figure something out. I don't know. Trent was like, you know, guys,

I've just, for months now, I'm being outbid on all the posters that I like on eBay. I just can't get any of the ones. You're literally, literally any poster ever is on an episode. All right, all right. We're going to get into the Bathtrap finale. Let's start it off. Let's kick it off here. Okay, we have Caitlin Bristow hosting the show solo, which was unexpected.

We thought it would be her and Caitlin, I mean, her and Tasia. I mean, her and Tasia. and we thought it would be her and Tasia, but out of an abundance of caution because Tasha's been in New York, and New York is, you know, just COVID capital of the world, it seems these days, that she stayed in New York and did not travel.

From her social, it looks like she was like, I was maybe exposed. I don't know. She didn't really go into major details, but just to be careful, she did not fight LA for the show. So Caitlin hosted the whole show herself, which is a major undertaking,

major responsibility. I don't know how long she had to prepare to do this solo. I thought she did a great job. It's funny that, you know, she gets the critique of she talks about herself too much. But it's like she was on the show. And that's why she's funny.

Like she's able to relate her own life into the show. And that's why she's personable and relatable. And that's why you laugh at the thing she's saying. I'll never understand that. I also didn't even realize that she was doing that. She didn't really. She didn't really at all. I didn't think she really did at all.

I think she was, I don't even remember one time. Maybe she did, but the fact I can't remember it, I think, is like, I don't think it was overbearing at all. And I think you're right. I think she's been on the show. She knows from experience. And I thought she did a really great job. I think that, Trent, you mentioned this on cutting stems a bunch that the crowd just didn't help. Like, I thought Caitlin was great. I thought she had good jokes,

good timing. Um, I think she really crushed it, thinking that she was probably going to be with Tasia. So she thought she would have another person to bounce off of, but she didn't have that. It was just herself that she did a really good job. But I thought the crowd was like a little lackluster. Yeah. And I like her hosting style. Like, so I feel like people are used to Chris Harrison. He was, he hosted the show for two decades. And he's, He's very hosty. He's like, he presents the topics. He brings them up.

And he kind of, he'll cut people off. He'll throw to commercial and it'll be all very professional. Caitlin is, it's a little looser and it's more self-deprecating. And I like that. Like at the beginning, she's saying, oh, it's a live show. What could go wrong? And then she says, everything could go wrong. And that's not something that Chris Harrison would say.

That's not something that most hosts would say. But I like that style because it's more relaxed. You feel, you can laugh about it. It's not as, you know, this is not a. serious show, but like there is tension with these old couples meeting each other and whatever. I like her style of like keeping it loose, keeping it light. And I really like that. I think she did a great job. I completely agree. Let's start it off with Nate and Brandon meeting Michelle's family. But first, 2021 is coming to an end. We're about to enter 2022. You may have not

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And she's talked about that, you know, she talked about that with Joe and, you know, thought they were similar in serious guys. He was smiling ear to ear talking about Brandon coming a visit. He was like, I can't wait to see Brandon. He was so, so excited. Everybody was excited to see Brandon. And he pretty much knocks it out of the park. Not surprising, but Michelle's parents absolutely adored Brandon. And it felt like Nate was already working at a disadvantage because of how much they love Brandon.

Yeah. Going into this episode, I knew that this part was going to go really well for Brandon. And if I were, if I were picking someone, I think Ria and I last week on the recap picked who we thought was going to win. I think I think rea picked Nate. I picked Brandon. And I went into this episode with my guard up because as much as I thought or as much as I kind of wanted Brandon to win, I knew who's behind the eight ball. Nate feels like the favorite for whatever reason, despite how much Brandon likes Michelle. It seems like Michelle likes Brandon. But I knew the meeting of Michelle's parents was going to go super well for Brandon. And I knew, or I felt after that meeting between them for the

second time. I actually thought that he might win the entire thing. I thought Michelle might pick him. Didn't go that way. Nate meeting Michelle's parents did not go well. I don't know. But it was that thing again with the show and I tweeted about it when it was happening where they set you up in that way where it's like everything and I mean everything is going so well for Brandon that it almost seems like it's going to switch on you at some point, which it did and Nate ended up winning. But after Michelle and Brandon's parents were all getting along as they did, the first time, I was like, oh, Brandon's got this in the back. You know what Brandon has been very good at, too? Gifts.

We'll talk about, you know, as this goes on, but he, you know, he comes in. He's got the jokes. He's got the swimming, you know, the swimsuit return and, I'll get you another one. Like, they already have inside jokes. That's where you know you're in trouble. The whole family, they already got inside jokes. They love everything about him. and this is a thing too.

It's like for us viewing, it's like, okay, maybe this is a little much from Brandon as far as like how in love he is already. But that's music to Michelle's parents' ears, right? They're like,

in their minds, they're probably like, oh, God, I don't know how Michelle's going to find a guy through this process that's like really going to love her and support her. And it was very nice because,

you know, Michelle's dad asked the same question, really to both of them. like, you know, she's very ambitious and she needs someone who's going to support her in her dreams and prop her up and not tear her down and like make sure that her dreams come true. And Brandon, you know, gave the exact answer he was looking for. And Nate's was a little bit different. So that's probably why they continue to go towards Brandon.

But unfortunately, Nate, like I said, Nate was already playing at a disadvantage here. I don't think he, no matter. what he did, I think Brandon was still going to be the favorite regardless. But Nate was incredibly nervous. It felt like during this entire time with Michelle's family. Well, he's not very good at, he's talked about this all season, that he's not good at expressing his feelings. And this is the time that you have to do it.

I mean, you're meeting Michelle's parents. And if you want that to get the stamp of approval from them, you're going to have to give them real, legitimate concrete answers as to why they think that you should marry their daughter. And he, yeah, and it's just, it's a personality type thing. And for whatever reason, Brandon is just like, he's so warm and open and just like, this is how I feel about your daughter. I'm all in.

I can't wait to join this family. It's going to be great. And Nate, although I do think he feels similar feelings towards Michelle, he's just not as good at expressing them. And Michelle's mom picked up on that right away. And they had a conversation that just. honestly couldn't have gone much worse for Nate. And she was asking the right questions, saying the right things.

And Nate just couldn't say what he wanted to say. And it came off as Rocky and it didn't go nearly as well as it had gone for Brandon. Nate was so nervous that he accidentally said that he doesn't take love seriously at all. Yeah. It was like the worst part about it. It was like you could tell he was trying so hard. And I will say this. I think watching the episode, you have your initial reactions and everyone's

so quick to judge and then afterwards you think about it, which is what's happening to me right now where it's like, it's now 1 o'clock in the morning. And we've just talked about the show on cutting stems and oh my God, it was three hours. And you realize you're like, meeting someone's parents for the first time is so frightening. And it's really not going to go over so perfectly smooth like Brandon's is majority of the time. Like, yeah, it'll be decent. It'll be fine. It'll be good. But Brandon's was like so over the top amazing that it's making Nate seem kind of weird when like he he fumbled the bag during it. Don't get me wrong.

But like it was kind of normal for him and relatable for him to be a little bit nervous. It absolutely was. Absolutely was. And like during the show we're like red flag. He's fucking right. Well, that's the thing we talk about all the time is it's this show distorts everything. to the point where, like, if you... And they wanted us to think that.

They wanted us to, like, that was the point of the beginning. The whole first hour, yeah, the whole first hour, they wanted us to think that Nate was just fumbling this so badly and he wasn't going to be able to get it. And Michelle said this during the live show, which was so good too, because Brandon was so good at articulating his feelings on television. like more than we've seen for a lot of guys who've been on this show. And he's also made it clear. He's like, oh, this is all very new to me. It's like, well, you're very good at it.

You're very good at talking about how you feel and talking about that. And Michelle was like, look, this is a guy that is expressing himself really for the first time in his life, like sharing these emotions out loud and he's doing it in front of cameras on television. Like, of course he's going to be nervous. We have to remember that like,

this is something he's never done before and he's on TV. I want to say a theory that I now have that just hit me. I feel like the Bachelor franchise puts visuals and sounds in there that are known to hypnotize people. And so we get captivated during the show. You're adding your head so hard, which is really selling me on this, my own theory, that I think you just get so captivated if you're pet, attention with everything, the cocktail of visuals and sound they make. And then it wears off after a couple hours and the next day.

And you start thinking about the reality of it. And you're like, all right, I judge these people a little hard. I was a little too fucking drawn into this. It's all happening right now. It's, I'm telling you my brain is unraveling at this very moment. It's the way they cut everything. It's the way they cut it. It's the way they put the sounds in there.

You know, Brandon's getting happy sounds. and they're in love and Nate's getting dark sounds, ominous sounds. Like, is this going to work? Like, just, it's like, and it's the way they, like, Brandon and Nate going on their last date, it's the way they show Brandon coming in and the music they play in the background for that. And then the way Nate comes in, he's more stoic. He looks, they make it seem like he's more nervous.

They play the ominous music where they're, and they got the voiceovers of someone from who knows when, could have been at any point being like, coming down to the end and, and I'm, I'm nervous. I don't know if this is going to work. Like, and then you're like, oh, fuck, is this going to work? I don't know. Oh, this show absolutely manipulates its audience on a level that we do not understand

or comprehend whatsoever. We're just along for the ride. Like, we're just sitting there like, oh, they're probably giving everybody a fair shake on this show. No, no, no, no, no. Everything, the music, like Fran is saying, the way it's cut, the, the, the birds chirping when when Brandon's there, the bird's not chirping when Nate is there. It's a whole production for sure.

But with that being said, I think there's got to- Nate still fuck up that home town, the date, yes. Yeah, that's what I mean. You can't make something, as much as we say that they can make something out of nothing, sometimes you can't. There has to be a little bit of truth in there where Michelle's parents love Brandon. They really do. They have a great time with them.

And Nate just really kind of fucked up that meeting with the parents. That has to be true on some level. You just go back and forth. a lot of hypnotization. A lot of what? Hypidization. It's like when my parents, when I was in fourth grade,

they went and got hypnotized to stop smoking. Yeah. People do that. I feel like I've heard this story 10 different times. And then my mom started smoking again, and my dad caught her.

It was terrible. I remember it's because it was such a trauma, day in my house. That's why it gets brought up all the time. The way my dad acted when he found out my mom started smoking cigarettes again. And then in our face, he was so pissed that he started smoking all the cigarettes. It's so fucked up. Traumatic day in the Chiffo house. I think they used to do this. If you were going to smoke, they give me one of those. I think they used to do not this, not similar. to that, all that similar, but I think they used to do it in movie theaters where they would,

they would quick flash like a bucket of popcorn. And it wouldn't, you wouldn't even be able to pick up on it because they do it so fast. It's like subconscious marketing where you just go bang. And the people who are sitting there didn't even see it. But all of a sudden, somebody turns to their friend and says, I think I want some popcorn. And they go out and they buy it. It's similar to that with what Bachelor does to its viewers. And by the way, I'm all in. Like I want to be, manipulated as to what's going on during the show. I think that's totally fine. Absolutely.

So Brandon and Nate have their last dates after we know that, you know, Brandon's on cloud nine. He crushed the parents, the whole thing. Nate's a little bit more nervous. Michelle very clearly is like, I need more from Nate. I need him on this last date to give me more. Her date with Brandon was lovely, you know. They had a nice afternoon.

she knows how much Brandon loves her. Like she can feel it. She's talking about it all the time. Like I know that this is like, that he's going to love me and support me. And almost like, without saying he's the safe choice, he's the same choice. And at the, it's true.

There we go. Brandon, no, I mean it in a nice way. I mean it in a nice way. Brandon would literally kiss the ground that she walks on, which is, honestly, the one that she should pick, but she didn't do it. But it's like he had the sweatshirt from the overnight date. They had a food fight and he was wearing the sweatshirt and he gave it to her and just all these, like the declarations of love constantly, which I'm telling you may just become too much at some point.

There is a thing called love bombing. And not that, like, Brandon was necessarily, like, doing it in a manipulative way because he wasn't. It truly his feelings. But, like, it was just a lot. It was a lot. You guys turned on him.

You guys turned on him. And it was evident. Did not turn on him. It was just a lot. It felt like the first half of the episode, from my gauge on Twitter, everybody's like, oh, Brandon's so great. He is easily the front runner.

He should win. He's so. sweet and so nice. Nate is not ready for an engagement. We don't know if we can trust his, whether or not he's going to, you know, be there for the long haul. And then as Brandon started to, you know, be even more into Michelle and saying, I love you and he's writing this beautiful letter with this kind of a strange voiceover that they had Brandon record, it seemed like people on people, you know, some people, maybe some people on this podcast, started to be like, this is too much. This is, I can't take this.

This is, this is bad. And then as soon as Nate, it was bad. It was not bad at all because you could, I know that Brandon really loves Michelle and you could feel that. It was just, this is when I started to get too realistic with the show, which is where, when you get yourself in trouble. Because it's like, this guy, I don't, I started to not buy like how deep. deeply in love he was when he doesn't he's an owner six weeks like it's still

a TV show like I'm much more on the like Nate's as much as we're like oh Nate might not be ready for a proposal or everything like the full relationship it's that's more real life plausible that Nate's a little nervous going into a into an engagement

after six weeks instead of Brandon being ready to like do all everything. Totally. It's just felt like once Nate gave like the speech of I only brought two suits and I'm you know this whole process is scaring me then it felt like everybody was like oh

this guy is who Michelle should maybe pick as opposed to the other guy who is maybe just like obsessed with her that was because it didn't until Michelle didn't have another option people were still like oh I like I like Brandon Brandon seems nice Brandon would be a great guy for Michelle to end up with and then And then as soon as Nate sort of showed like a little bit of emotion, everyone was like, oh, she should pick Nate. Yeah.

Nate's date also was funny too because, of course, they like went to some shaman that was like, I'm going to make you ready for marriage and acting like that's going to, that's going to be the cure. It's like, okay, Nate's not ready for marriage. Let's, let's sage him and make him recite some, uh, Let's make him recite some lines. And it, and like, meditate on this. Yeah, and it's so funny because they take it so seriously, too. Like, Michelle's like, I just, I really don't, I really didn't think Nate opened up

during the exercise as much as she, as much as he stood up. It was like, all right, are we acting like this? This was really going to give Nate the push he needed to be like, you know what? After that experience with that shaman, I am ready to propose. At one point, he said something that he was hoping was like being open and honest with Michelle and he looked at her and he said, is that good? Is that, am I saying the thing that I'm, you want me to be saying? It's like, all right, this isn't working.

Yeah. And when they finally were able to sit down, trend, you had liked this line too. And she was like, I basically need you to tell me how you're feeling. What's going on here? And it was the first time that he did open up. It was like, I packed two suits because I didn't think that I was going to be making it this far. And here I am.

And I'm scared because I love. you and I can't imagine like not having you in my life and that's you know that really scares me and we're at the end here. This is big but like I love you. So at the end of the day, it is clearly exactly what Michelle wanted to hear. My perception of that moment was that Michelle this whole time as sweet and as nice and as loving as Brandon is and has been all season. She just needed one thing. One thing. One potential thing with Nate and she was like, I'm going that way. And she got it and she picked Nate. I think that was it.

Yeah. Do we think potentially, now, do we think potentially that, to play devil's advocate here, that I only packed two suits could have been another red flag because it's like, oh, you thought you were like going to be on the show

for a really short amount of time? Let's not dive too much into this. Let's say it. It was a nice speech. I'm just saying like to if I was her and he's like I only packed two suits because I did it's like oh so you thought you were going to be here for like three weeks like yeah I would be like oh so you just were coming on the show to maybe get a little Instagram cloud one yeah but here he is he made it to the end he felt like he told Michelle what he wanted to say and you're right Trent she just needed that one push I think that's all it took to put Nate over Brandon in that moment as soon as they had that moment. And it was, and of course, like the timing of it was ruthless because they did have that moment. And then it was like, bye, Nate. Oh, look, there's a note at the door and let me read it. And it's Brandon, which not only like, sometimes they make

the bachelor or the bachelor's read that out loud so we can hear it. But they had Brandon do a voiceover of his note, which is so funny because did they put him in a booth? Did they, like, in his confessional where they're like, okay, it sounded pretty good quality. That's what I'm saying. Really good. It sounded really good. So they have to sit him down and be like, okay, enunciate, very clearly read this note that you're writing Michelle, that you're writing Michelle. And once again, a whole lot of like, since the day you walked into my life, it's been changed forever.

and my life will never be the same. I love you. And like it's, it's, it was a, it was a big note. I said on Twitter that it sounded like an R&B song when, when he was so smooth and the quality was top tier. Again, I thought the note was beautiful. I thought it was Brandon just expressing his love to a woman that he wants to spend the rest of his life with.

You know, some people thought it was too much or that, you know, he was love bombing Michelle. I, you know, I don't see it that way. but, you know, I thought the note was a nice gesture. I think you have to remember that she's not hearing him read it. Like, she's just reading the note. That is very true. That's a really fair point.

No, it's really fair point. I feel like we did forget that. I, once again, I love a good, I love a good handwritten note, though. A good handwritten note is nice. I wish I can get one of those. I'm so kidding. One of my favorite things to do is to make you guys feel uncomfortable. And I've done that quite a few times tonight.

So we're just going to move it on. Anyways, I go back and forth because at first I was like, that is really just a lot that Brandon is doing right now, like the chat last week that he had to have with Michelle before the roses. He had to pull her to the side. Now she's going on her date with Nate and he's got to put a letter out there. And it's like, okay. it's a lot, it's really a lot, like, calm down.

She's going to make a decision. She likes you. She's going to pick you. But at the same time, someone is like, wow, I really want to be with this person. I'm going to give my best efforts to show them how much I love them. And like, I guess you can't really blame somebody for that. And I think that my concern was him coming across possessive and just like a little too much. But then I think what I realized towards the end of the show and then during the after,

the final rose was that he's not because he handled the breakup beautifully and talked about them in such a respectful way and was such a stand-up guy besides maybe the throwing of the ring. I don't know. I feel like that's okay. He had a little pent-up anger. But I have no idea what I was about to say next because our Zoom cut out and we had to start a whole new meeting. And I'm going to be completely honest with you guys because it's been like 15 minutes, maybe less than that, since we end in and I have no idea what I was saying. We're really at a point tonight where, you know, I'm the one controlling the Zoom.

I don't have Zoom Pro. We're on a time limit. Noah's Wi-Fi isn't working. I don't know. We're really struggling. This is our second Zoom of the evening. And we're going to move on now to- I got the wrap-up music.

Ria got the wrap-up. She got cut off. She was mid-sentence and it just ended. And literally Noah looked at the screen and went like this. Time. It's just, as soon as he did that, it ended. I feel like that wasn't a good thought too. You were, you were articulating, articulating yourself very well on thoughts about Nate.

It was great. And everyone's going to hear that. And it's not going to make sense. It's like going to make sense to them, but not us. So we're going to move on to proposals. but first, over the holidays, we want you guys to be safe. So if you're hanging out with some friends, maybe you're drinking a little bit,

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He's got his rings. Nate and Brandon both pick out their rings. Nate went with the pear shape, not my choice, but, you know, teach their own. Yeah, I don't know what any of that stuff means. I don't know the shapes. Our cutting stems or our bachelor group chat, as soon as Neil Lane makes an appearance, Kelly and Fran just start going back and forth about like shapes. and what band do you want?

And it's just a lot. It is funny because I feel like every year it's the same conversation. And it's like, isn't it just a one-time conversation? Because it's just the same rings. Like Neil Lane, like every season, it's also the same rings. Like, I just think Neil Lane's designs look the same every year.

This year, I finally researched what an Emerald cut was. Because that's big. We were going back and forward. They were like, we like Emerald and I, in my head. And back, like, I'm embarrassed of this. First of all, I feel like I should definitely know better. I was like, what's an emerald? I know what ring I would want today I decided.

Literally just today I decided which ring I would want. Do you ever do that when someone says a word? You don't know what it means and you just kind of like go along with it. But then on the side, I'm like Googling on my phone like while I'm with them. All the time. Constantly. That's like 45% of my life, I would say. I was just trying to figure out what the hell people are talking about.

I will, I mean, they're like, do you know this? And I like, Google search it really quickly. And I'm like, yeah. Yeah, you don't. You don't know that? Nate and Neil Lane had a very fun interaction. Nate walked up to Neil Lane and he said, whoa, you're tall. And Nate said, I'm up there.

I'm up there. It was just one of the funniest responses to someone saying someone's tall, just being like, yeah, man, I'm up here. I'm just really tall. Very, very funny. It's good to see Neil Lane. Has on the past couple seasons, has he been not on location? Am I remembering that correctly? Definitely has not been in person.

Yeah. So it was good to see him down to Mexico, you know, slang and rings. Yeah, it definitely was just, you know, Neil Lane. They'll never switch up because he is the ring guy for this show. But it's just the same types of rings. You know, every year is the same types. But that's just, it's just his style. Anyway, if he has a son.

A hole with a gold band. Okay. Yes, that's very trendy right now, Ria. I think that looks beautiful. And that's a very, that's a classic ring. Neil Lane doesn't, and at least the Neil Lane rings on this show, don't look like that.

I think they're very old school, these rings. They are, yeah. You and Kelly talk so seriously about it in our chats that I, like, want to give your potential significant others, like a heads up because I don't want them to get in. trying it. They know? If you don't think, they already know.

Okay, good. I'm mad at Trent's like, hey, listen to Week 7 recap at like 30 minutes. I honestly feel like it's my civic duty to do that because I don't want. It's never, it's, it's very subtle trend. It's not like you shove rings in the guy's face, but if you, if your friends start getting engaged and you, and you're looking at the pictures and you're like,

ooh, I don't really like her style. but then someone does get engaged. You're like, ooh, I really like her style. You can drop it in there in a way that gets picked up on. Hopefully these guys are paying attention because that, some guys might just be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're watching the, they're watching the game. It's like, you got, I get worried for these fellas.

Yeah. There was a point where Noah and I ended up having a conversation. I don't know if it was in front of Fran or behind Fran's back where we were like, wow, Brand's like going to get mad. Oh, yeah. This was like, like, this was probably like on our way to LA or something like, or like we were in the car or something. Yes, yes. And we just were like.

Oh, no, we were right. Yeah. Oh, oh, we were sitting. We were sitting at the bar. Yeah. Yeah. We were saying. Yeah.

And we were like, Noah had this moment where we were, we were getting. There's more you and I was just in agreeance. I wouldn't say. I don't know. No. No. I wasn't like, I wasn't like, Ria. Guess what?

Fran? It's way funnier to think it was no. Noah was definitely. He was in the conversation. clearly he was like that's crazy like we were just like fran's like gonna get married and like get married before us and like we're gonna have to like be a podcast from she's like engaged like getting married like she's gonna like grow up first we're like she's gonna be the first one i'm assume unless i randomly get married one day out of nowhere before you but no yeah my my my age will start to show at some

points. Basically what we were saying. I'm kidding, but it was a moment that I forgot to clue you in. That is. Yeah. So anyway, let's talk about the proposals on the show, huh? Brandon's the first one out of the car. Brutal.

We know that this is just, it's not happening for him. Caitlin and Tasia did not show him any reason to believe this would go well. they kind of seemed very like doom and gloom. Yeah, you got to give you got to just, you got to have a poker face in that moment. You just got to have a look of like, who knows what's going to happen. I think they tried to do the poker face,

but the poker face came off being like, ooh, good luck. Yeah, you're the first SUV that pulled up. There's no other tire marks on the road. You're the first one to get here. Exactly. He goes down there. It's hot.

It's the ocean. is as loud as can be. He says his speech and he gets through basically the whole thing and then like where you're in that like in between of like okay I finish talking like do I get down on one knee Michelle said her piece and like went through the breakup and you could tell on Michelle's face the entire time

like Brandon said this during after the final rose of like Michelle wears her like you can read her eyes like you can see how she's feeling through her eyes and he said he like knew right away looking at her eyes. and you could just tell from as soon as Brandon got down there. And so this breakup happens. And to be honest, we could not hear shit. The waves were so loud.

I saw so many people on Twitter being like, I had to rewind it and turn on the captions because I couldn't hear what they were saying. It was an emotional breakup. I could tell that from their faces. Yep. The emotions drowning in the waves. Yes. I was very surprised that they didn't subtitle it themselves.

that would have been the move because like knowing we obviously knew because Brandon was the first one to show up that it was not going to go well for him. And I was prepared to get just punched in the stomach because I think everybody likes Brandon. He's a he's a very sweet guy and you don't want to watch a guy like that. He's ripped out, his heart ripped out on national TV. But I will say the waves kind of took some of that pain away because I didn't really hear what was going on. Like Fran said, you could tell what was going poorly because their faces. were, you know, doom and gloom, but the waves really kind of, they were a buffer to hearing the actual breakup in loud volume. Absolutely. And, you know, there wasn't really an end. It was like

Michelle started to kind of walk him out and there's the hug and like the I love you and she said, I love you too. And it's just, it was very, very sad. He looked, he was crying. It was one of the, I was one of these sadder proposal breakups we've seen in a long time. He was like, your happiness is more important than mine. It was just, oh, God, it was,

it was walking up the steps. He's crying up the steps. He's really steep steps. He didn't want to turn and look back at her and start crying again. At one point, Michelle was like, what am I doing? It's like,

oh, that had to kill Brandon watching it back to see her say that. Because you just like hold on to that little thing. Like, ah, she second guessed it. Brutal. Yeah, and he was sweating so much.

I felt so bad after he, and he got up there. Yeah, it appeared he threw the ring. I don't know if it was something else. We couldn't actually see, but it was like, I would imagine the only thing he had on him was the ring. I don't know where it went if a producer was in the sand looking for a ring for hours afterwards, but it did appear he threw that ring.

I totally missed that part. I didn't see the ring toss. It looks like he chucked something. like he was like ah and like through something you know what they'll fine yeah like totally fine no skin off his back it's not like that's neil's problem now yeah and say i wouldn't throw something in that moment exactly way worse yeah so really wasn't that bad uh in the grand scheme of things but yeah that was a very emotional breakup it took a lot out of us to watch it was it was very sad to see brand in that way um so it is harder for sure

when the breakups are that sad to then immediately go into like, oh, happy proposal, look, they're so in love. And that's what you kind of have to do because, you know, Nate comes down, he says his speech, loves Michelle, and she looked very nervous, very nervous. And I think she was nervous, like,

about what Nate was going to say. And once Nate got to that point of like, okay, like, I'm going to propose, she was so happy and totally went in like, you know, you're near my guy, my soulmate, this is how it's going to work. And he got down on one knee and proposed. And it was a beautiful proposal. Definitely, I would say, shorter than some of the Bachelor,

Bachelorette proposals we have gotten as far as like face-to-face speeches. But still beautiful nonetheless. They get me every time. Every time it's just like, oh, they're in love. but there is just, there is such an element to Nate talking where like, he's like,

he's like, I love this woman. We're getting married. And it's like, didn't you? Yeah, he's like, I'm on Burgundy.

Yeah. Yeah, like, I know he means it. And I know he loves her. But for some reason, like, it's still like,

are you know you just propose. He was like, oh, fuck yeah. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm a gay. So like,

like, he was just. genuinely shocked that he was engaged. Yeah. I will say those moments are tough. They do that. Like, right after they get engaged,

they all have that moment where they're just standing in front of the camera and they're supposed to yell or they're supposed to say something crazy. Michelle said soul Nate, which was a funny pun. But like, he was awkward and he didn't seem quite as sure

as he would hope he would be in that moment. But I don't think anybody can handle that moment very well. yeah definitely heck yeah hey yeah yeah Mary baby

let's go gosh darn that we did I'll be damn her nobody will be able to top Serena and Joe

Serena and Joe's when Serena was like I'm I'm engaged to grocery store Joe I'm I actually will that's a good point

actually I think that moment that exact moment for all those people that's when they really realize that it's happening. Yeah, that's the holy fuck I'm engaged moment. Because up until that moment, you're just on a TV show. You're thinking like, I'm just trying to accomplish this one goal.

And I want to get engaged to this person at the end. And that is the only thought that you have the entire time. And then you do it. You accomplish what you were trying to accomplish. And now you're faced with the reality of I'm engaged. And I have to at least pretend like I'm excited. I'm sure they're excited. But it is hitting them like a ton of bricks,

the reality of everything that they are now going to have to face. I've just been screaming in my house. My dad just texted me. Some of us are sleeping. It's 1.30 in the morning and I'm in my family home. They just sending it back. Some of us are working. I wrote, this is exactly what I wrote.

I'm working here putting food on the table. I'm actually waiting for my neighbor to like hit the wall. Hey, dad, do you want a Christmas this year? You have presents under that tree or what? I would love if he came down and just shut your laptop. I'm going to write, you want presents this year? Holy shit. It is 1.30 in the morning, just for clarification.

Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. So this is like the proposal on station, Caitlin come running out. People forget how small Caitlin is. Like I know I don't think that like flies under the radar. She's really a tiny human being. They came running out like without any shoes on or anything.

Nate's so damn tall. It looks so small, but they're very happy that. And then we cut to the after the final rose, which let's get into the whole live show. But first, if you guys aren't watching The Bachelorette on Sling TV, come on. What do you do? And it's time to get rid of cable. We don't need it anymore. Because we have Sling TV, you get all the channels.

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He did a great job. If you don't know, he was the guy in between. that was like dressed up as Santa, doing Elf, doing Home Alone, doing the Christmas story, a Christmas story. He was doing it all, crushed it. Joe and Serena and Becca and Thomas were there. There wasn't really a big moment for them. It was just kind of like, you're here, make out,

like Joe and Serena made out under mistletoe for a little while on TV. There was a funny moment, which I did not catch when I was watching. I actually only saw it on Twitter, but like in the middle of Brandon's very emotional. emotional interview with Caitlin where like he's talking about his feelings and how in love he was with with Michelle and over his shoulder was just Becca and Thomas and they're like making out but like I didn't see seeing and like so in love just like behind Brandon is Brandon's like yeah you know like my love for her is going to have to change like and and Zerbeka and Thomas are just like kissing

behind him what what a respectful answer from Brandon though for him to say it was Caitlin asked if he still loved Michelle. And I think that this was one of the best answers somebody has given on this show was that he said, he took a moment, he thought about it. And he said, you know, I will always love her. But I don't think I could, it would not be respectful to love her in that way anymore.

And oh my God, that is so mature and nice. and just like he said respectful. Like for him to not be like, I need her back. Like he, he was like, I respect her and Nate being together and I want them to genuinely be happy. That is such a mature stand-up guy. I am so sold on Brandon about an hour ago. I was out and I'm back in thinking about this answer.

Yeah, it was a great answer. It was. And Michelle came out. Brandon and Michelle were wearing like matching outfits. It's unintentional, but they were in like the exact same color. And then it was funny because when Nate came out, Caitlin was like, oh, you guys are kind matching. It's like, nice try, Caitlin.

It was actually the other guy. I know. That was like, oh. She's matching with the other guy. And to be honest. And the other two matched. Yeah. Yeah.

To be really honest, guys, like I was listening to Michelle and Brandon's conversation. I can't tell you a single thing that they said to each other. It was just very civil. And I think it was like, you know, I was like, I wish the best for you in your life and I want you to be happy and find happiness in your relationship. And I think he probably wanted some clarity on like the double I love you's and all those things. And she basically was like, you know, that's how I was feeling in the moment. Like fell in love with both of you. And just one was a little bit, you know, more than the other.

Whatever you want to say it. Because you kind of had to talk about that with Nate too to be like, you know, Nate had to watch me say I love you to other guys. Yeah, and that's really come a long way on the show where, like, who was it? Was it? Really flies under the radar these days. Was it Higgins? Yeah, Higgins, where he fell in love with Jojo and Lauren.

And that was like, whoa. That was huge. And now, I think every season. Every season and so much so that I think during Michelle and Brandon's conversation, they both agreed that like, it's possible to fall in love with two people at the same time. they were like, it happens. And I think that's probably the right way to look at it. But for this show specifically, it really has just completely taken a turn where

if you're not in love with the final two or three people, then you are, you're the outlier. It's really changed a lot. Absolutely. Is it fair of me to say that, no, I don't know, because I've never been in love with two people at the same time, but could it more be so that you love somebody and are in love with the other person rather than you're in love with both. It seems kind of hard to be in love with both.

I do understand what you're saying. I feel like she kind of told both of them she was in love with them, but... Yes. Yes, I do understand. I do understand what you're saying. And I also think that when you do have to make the choice between, it's like, no, I'm, when you realize to like, think about it, it's like, no, I'm in love with Nate. Yeah, I feel like I love Brandon as like a person and everything about him,

but like I'm in more in love with Nate. Yeah, no, I definitely understand that I think that's a big part of making that decision. But they had a nice conversation. Hopefully Brandon got some clarity that he was looking for. You know, they haven't seen each other's the first time they're seeing each other. And then Michelle and Michelle comes out, Nate comes out, they're they're in love they're happy they you know they're they made it through the in-between time and he's moving to minnesota he's very happy their moms are like bffs they text they talk

they're talking about how uh Minnesota where Minneapolis and and Winnipeg are like not that far from each other for them to see each other it was very beautiful it seems like you know their families are already joining together and and they're having these moments and they fucking gave him a down payment on a house. So crazy. Just out of nowhere. It is your bread house. Maybe because it was like,

like, is it because this is like Christmas? I don't get. They didn't say it's because it's the giving season. I don't know if that was really the reason. But it was, it is big that Nate's moving to Minnesota or Minneapolis. Because that was the big question. Like he lives in Austin.

We weren't so sure that he was going to move. and that is that's where that shocked me yeah and that's where immediately instantly and that's where it can really fall apart where it's like somebody doesn't want to move and then you don't see each other as much and it gets a little rockier because you don't feel like the commitment is there and it can fall apart but yeah Caitlin asked Nate if he would move and he was like yeah I want to do it I really I'm going to do it I'm going to do it within the next couple months and then ABC and the bachelor we're like here's $200,000 to help you out which I think we are all on the same page in believing that ABC is giving these two a little extra

something to stay together because every single couple that gets engaged on the show now breaks up, not every single, but majority. And they're like, can one of you just fucking make it get a house together right away? We'll give you $200,000. They can get a hefty home with $200,000 down payment. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money to put down on a house. So they're going to get something real nice.

And ABC is probably going to tie them to a contract for them to have to live in this house for a certain amount of time. Maybe give them a spin-off show in this house that they're providing. They are setting a very interesting precedent. Like, the next time around, we'll see, the next time around, we'll see if somebody else gets something. Like, this is the first time they've done this, to my knowledge. It literally felt like we were watching. I felt like we were watching the price is right. Yeah.

Like it was like, and if you get this correctly, you'll get. $200,000 on your own home down payment. Right. Like is somebody going to get a... Balloons, confetti. Somebody going to get a car. They're going to get like a minivan. So you guys can have kids.

And it's like, what? What's happening? I'm into it, though. I want these couples to stay together. I'm sick of having to defend this show sometimes when the couples don't stay together. You're going to be like, we, here's a giant check for your first child's college to tuition you only get if you have a kid.

Imagine they had them like the Price is Right, start guessing the numbers of what the check is to see how much they actually get. It's like, let's do a little game now. If they want to throw a game show aspect onto the end of this at the end of this season, I'm in. You know, that's all they need to add to this show to spice it up a little bit is a little game show aspect to the end. Well, the prize money. Imagine they turn it into Love Island where it's like,

of Nate and Michelle are sitting in that seat. And Kayla goes, Nate, Michelle, I have two envelopes in my head. One has $100,000. One has nothing. You can either pick the money. If you get the envelope with the money, you can share it, or you can keep the whole thing for yourself and send the other person home with nothing. They did that on Bachelor Pad.

Did you, Trent, did you watch Bachelor Pad? No, I missed it. I mean, I think they were like, Nate. The Bachelor Pad was so good. I know everyone talks about how they do it on Love Island. And, you know, like they do on the challenge and whatnot. But, like, they did that on Bachelor Pat, and that shit was so good. So good.

Imagine they were like, Nate, you could take the $200,000 and put it on a down payment for a new home with Michelle. Or you could take the money and run. Oh, my God. Well, all right. So that's a good question. What, like, what are actual predictions, doesn't feel like the right word, but how do we think these two are actually going to end up? Like, I feel pretty good that they're moving to Minnesota, that he's moving to Minnesota. I don't know.

I'm, I am a tad worried because there were a lot of rumors around Nate in Austin and he's out and like, there was blinds about him, like, flirting with girls and bars and whatnot. But, or like being asked about Michelle and having like weird answers. to me though like yes that may have happened i don't know but also when you're the guy that wins you have to like play dumb or like act normal you're not supposed to like because that would come out like if if there were stories of people running into him out and he's like uh i i love michel like they'd be like oh you you won like yes he always like he like kind of has to be like oh like yeah michel like i don't know, like he has to play dumb or else the show's ruined. So that's true.

But yeah, there were definitely some, there were some blinds floating around about him and Austin and whatnot. But look, this is the thing. He's moving, he's moving to Minneapolis. He wants to settle down. So we can only wish the best at this point. And they're like,

I don't know. I think their moms helped convince me. Yeah, no, there were a couple big things in that after the final rose. Yeah, the moms, the move, the down payment. doesn't hurt. Like, I do think that if he, if the move happens and he said it's going to happen the next couple months, if it really happens, I think they got a shot. I agree.

It was actually so funny as I just thought. I'm not going to get too excited or too attached. No. You think Joe and Serena were sitting in that crowd when they opened that gingerbread house and then Joe and Serena were like, what the fuck? That is such a good question. And I would bet, yeah, because I would be that way too. We got a text, Joe.

That's actually hilarious. I could totally see it being like, well, we're trying to move to New York. Can we get a little help? I could even, like, I wouldn't have been. I wouldn't have been surprised if he had stood up during the taping and just been like, what? I could put money on Joe turning to Strina being like, what the fuck. Absolutely. Be like, well, damn.

He probably like between them and Becca and Thomas probably all looked at each other and we're like Becca is like I've done this shit twice I haven't got any cash so true oh man so true what a wild ending but the last thing we have to talk about is Clayton coming out and Caitlin being like the guy no one knows the next bachelor Clayton and he comes out we're talking about a season and we're like all right everyone people have had some, you know, iffy things to say about you online, about being The Bachelor. Let's read them out loud to your face. And not just one, but let's read like six.

And I think the, I think another thing that maybe was why the audience, like, felt uncomfortable because, like, they kept getting worse, but then Caitlin would be like, okay, one more. Okay, one more. Okay, one more. like acting like the crowd was supposed to be laughing like ha ha ha like yeah one more instead it was like awkward and then it was like ha ha one more it's like no don't do another one it was it was i understand having to warm him up to some mean tweets criticism that's what happens yeah it's going to happen he's going to have to get used to it the shrek comments it was all right whoa

that was too much way this man looks and it was I hope he like wraps it up like so we doesn't get anyone pregnant. So it was like what? It was like ruthless and ruthless tweets. So I see both sides like yeah, you got to get used to that. But also at the same time we should be teaching people to not read these things. Right. It's like don't read these things.

We're like not sending them. I like yeah. No, because here's the thing. There's nothing worse. There's nothing worse. Then you see something on your own. Fine. But when someone sends you a.

thing that somebody wrote about you, it's one of the, it's like, what are you doing? I don't want to see that. Why are you sending it to me? So that's what felt crazy about this whole thing. It was I was like, oh, you didn't go out of your way to read this, but I'm going to show you anyway. Yeah, on national television. This is how it's- because if you go out of your way, that's your own fault. You went, you looked, it is what it is. Yeah. Somebody sending it to you hurts. I just don't get the motive here. It's very mixed messages from Bachelor World, like one second we're denouncing the mean tweets and we're saying, don't send them.

It's mean. It's awful. And then the next, we're like reading them and supposed to be laughing, but like it's not funny. I don't know. And like, we've been critical of Clayton of like, oh, I don't know. I don't know if he's going to be a great bachelor or like why he was picked. I don't really see it. We didn't get to see a lot of him on the show.

But we're not fucking tweeting like roses are red, bids are blue. Clayton's a bachelor. I just puked in my mouth. man the only motivation they could have had baby shrek children like oh my god i really i really wish that i had photoshop trent's handle onto the shrek one and tweeted you son of a bitch yeah you're out to sabotage me my friend i can feel it no we all took we all like held our breath for a second when they were like we're going to read tweets uh but they didn't put anyone's handle on it and those were 10 times meaner than anything we've said. Oh, way meaner. And so the only motivation for them for ABC and

The Bachelor is we don't know much about this guy. People do have mixed feelings about him for whatever reason. So to do when you do something like this, first of all, you feel bad for the guy, honestly. So you're like, oh, come on. Like, all right, maybe I wasn't all in on the Clayton stuff, but these people are being mean for no reason. Like, let's give this guy a shot. And the way that he handled it, I thought was good. He was just laughing about it, kind of rolling with the punches. And he seems like he's got a pretty good personality. So to have those two things happen, I think they probably gained a few more people than they had before who are now like, all right, I'm in on Clayton. He can't be as bad as these people are saying that he is. Seems like a good guy. Seems like he's got a nice

personality. I'm in on his season. Those are the only reasons I can see that they would do that. 100%. That's it's a total once again full circle back to them hypnotizing us. It's exactly the way for them to be like everyone's skeptical, skeptical about Clayton. Let's go let's go as hard as we can on the mean tweets and then have the world be like, oh, I'm going to watch. He's not that bad. Like, and it's exactly what happened. Man, they were pretty mean. They were pretty mean. But that kind of wrapped it up for the show we hope Michelle and Nate are happy in Minneapolis. They're probably going to get a killer house without down payment whenever he does move in the near future. That wraps up for Michelle's season, guys. This is our last podcast episode of 2021. So just want to say thank you all so

much for supporting chicks in the office this year and listening to us. And we love you all so, so much. We'll be back January 3rd with an episode. And then we're right back in the fucking driver's seat, baby. Clayton season starts Monday night. That was really nice until we were reminded that The Bachelor starts again. I know. I'm kidding. It'll be good. And yes, thank you everyone for listening this year. I saw some people in our Datchat group saying that of course they want us to enjoy the holidays, but they get sad when they have no episodes. So just know that we will be thinking about you over this break as much as you miss us and we'll we'll be back we'll be back january 3rd it'll it'll be in a blink of an eye thanks trent for for hanging with us always i we really appreciate

you uh recording with us till 145 yes we appreciate you giving us your valuable time no i no i should be thanking you guys thanks for letting me come on here and talk about the bachelor i say this i've said this before where i other if i didn't have this outlet i would never i wouldn't be able to talk about the bachelor anywhere. Nobody else really in my life allows me to talk about The Bachelor at length like this. So I'm grateful to you guys for letting me come on every week to talk about this show because I love the show and I love coming on this show. So I really appreciate it. What a beautiful way to end. Thank you guys so much. We'll be back in 2020.