Chicks in the Office - Lie Detector Tests + Bennett Just Wont Quit (The Bachelorette Week 9 Recap)

Episode Date: December 9, 2020

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Ria and Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. It, of course, is Bachelor at Recap Day. We have Trent, A.K.A. Trent, A.K. Barstool, Trent, aka.

Luggage guy, Trent, in the building per usual. The fans love them. We don't, but he's here. Okay. I said I would be nicer at this time, right? Again, you can be mean to me if you want. No, no, no. It's really okay.

I think three amigos guys, remember. Oh, that's right. Amigos. How easy you forget. How easy you forget the three amigos? I'll never forget. No, I'll never forget. You'll never forget us.

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com right now, then what are you doing? Are you even buying gifts? Do you even care? Do you even care about the holiday season? Because I know, I know as a young buck, I didn't shop on time, okay? I would wait till the last minute or I just wouldn't get anybody anything at all. I would say, hey, I forgot this year. I'll get you guys next time.

I'm no longer like that. I am 23 years old and I buy gifts for people and I buy them at macy's.com. Everything that we've shopped, you can go to macy's.com slash chicks in the office. check out what we're wearing our fall and winter gear. Friend, we know how much you love Macy's as well. Absolutely love it. I'm wearing black Levi jeans right now that I bought for Macy's that are super, super comfortable. I also got my jeans for Macy's.

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It's Bachelorette. It's Bachelor at Wednesday. That's what we do on this day. And it was an emotional episode, but also a good episode. It was. It was. And you know what, guys, I have to say, I'm starting to feel the fatigue, the season fatigue. You know, when you're so close to the end and it's just like, how many more episodes are there?

And we're reaching the two weeks. But I go back and forth because watching this episode, I was like, holy shit, there's seven guys. Like, we're, like, I'm still expecting there to be so many guys, and we really are cutting the fat here. So I feel good. When they said, oh, we're nearing hometowns. I was like, well, now, hold on a minute. Like, I understand the fatigue part, but I'm more on the other side where when they said hometowns, I was like, I still feel like we're kind of just getting started. It's because it does feel like Tasia hasn't had that long where Tasha's already at hometowns.

You know what I'm saying? Like, because of the Claire delay and everything, I think Tisha has lost. a couple weeks. Yeah. So it doesn't quite feel like she has had enough time where we're already at hometowns. As far as episodes go, is she getting the same amount if she were on a regular season or no? Given how many weeks for that, and I know they're going to start doubling up.

I don't think so. No, okay. Because they are going to start doubling up here in a couple weeks, right? That is true. They'll go Monday, Tuesday. But we've only had like, what week is this? Nine? Nine?

there was three, four weeks of Claire. So we're on week six of Tasha? Yeah, about five or six. Like that's fast, right? Like that's what I'm saying. Normally, I think regular, if it was a regular season, hometowns are like week 10. Okay.

Which is right. We're at the right time. Like it's week 10. It makes sense. But it's Tasha's week six. Correct. Okay. So it is going a little bit faster.

But I don't know. I actually do agree with that. where you're saying like it feels like we've been out of while, but also not. But also maybe they gave her the same amount of time and we're just episodes. You know, because time, there's no time with these shows.

Like are these episodes, we think about it like the episodes are really filmed a week apart because we think about them every week. Yeah. But it's like they probably, it's not this, it's not the same time. Right. Time is not the, it doesn't work the same way. Correct.

That's very interesting. Correct. So that's something to think about. Hometown's coming up, though. That was surprising. Hometowns are coming. I know, that was crazy to hear, but they left off with the Noah and Bennett stuff.

And I think we all predicted that Bennett was going to be the one sent home. I think Bennett still can't get out of his own way. Like very, no one was right. Very condescending. It was tough. It was tough. I could not believe that Bennett, when he got his one-on-on-law, on one time with Tasha during that 2-1-1, that he went back to the book.

Back to the emotional intelligence. I thought he was just doing that to mess with Noah, but it turns out he genuinely feels that way about Noah, which was stunning. I am worried about Bennett. He gives me sociopathic tendencies. That's what he's giving off to me. And the fact that he keeps bringing up this book, he tells Tasia, I just can't see. Oh, oh, wait, okay, I'm going to hold that thought because it's a good thought, but

we have breaking news. we have Chef Donnie in the building with a little treat right now. This is really exciting, guys. And if you're watching on YouTube, this is even more exciting. Donnie, come grab a chair right there. This is the three amigos now plus Chef Donnie. Chef Donnie created a cookbook for this holiday season. You know, Black Friday, it's a big deal around here.

And Chef Donnie, he put on his thinking cap and he was like, I'm going to create a cookbook, not my mother's cookbook. And he did a phenomenal job. look through the book, mainly because I have a recipe in there and I want to see myself, but also because you did a really great job, Donnie. And now you're serving us what it looks like tacos. Please, okay, this is, I would like two steps. One, give everyone a little summary of like who you are and what you do because people

might not know who you are. Yes. And two, what are we eating? Okay, so quickly, I'm Donnie. Cooking is my thing. And most recently, like Ria said, the cookbook has come out. It's a basic cookbook for if you've never cooked before, all simple recipes that build upon each other. And you learn all the skills.

So check it out right now. It's in the Barstles Sports Store. And you guys are about to eat one of my favorite recipes from the book. It's a melt-in-your-mouth beef taco. So it's a brazed beef chuck. And then we have an avocado jalapeno puree that goes on top. So very simple but delicious. So dig in.

Let me know you guys think. I have to say the presentation is phenomenal as well. You did a great job. I love following Donnie on Instagram because he does the Instagram where it's a progression of how to cook something and it's just because I can't cook. I'm, I just am incapable so it sounds like I should probably get this book. But I just like following you on Instagram, I think those are cool videos.

That's delicious. The flavor. Yeah. It's so damn good, Donnie. It really is really good. And I'll say, I love. The meat is so fearful. I love following chef Donnie as well because not only does he post cooking videos and how to make things and I've learned how to make some things from Donnie's

Instagram, he also posts cleaning the pots and pans which is so satisfying. Didn't you say people like actually they'll DM you and say they enjoy watching that? Like they're like yeah that's my favorite part of the cleanup. Right TikToks too. Thank you very much. The TikToks are

I think sometimes you really want to watch the whole process like really fast because I think it's hard like if you get frustrated with cooking and you're like oh that's going to take forever the TikToks make it seem like it happens. One you put out yesterday the Popeye's one

unbelievable. Thank you very much. Yeah there's more plenty of that if you just Instagram is chef dot Donnie with two eyes and TikTok I believe is just chef Donnie so just quick cooking some of them are longer like five minute videos of tutorials and some of them like my TikToks are uh there are very quick 30 seconds just roll through it fast so yeah you can get all that and where can everybody buy your book at barcelsports.com slash store and then just search donnie or cookbook and it'll be the first thing that pops up yeah it's called not my mother's cookbook and also i will say like i said i've learned how to make things from you so seriously give donnie a follow you'll learn how to make amazing

recipes. And if you buy this book, you're going to see great recipes from Donnie and a lot of barstool people put in their homemade recipes as well, which I thought was really cool. There's a lot of people in there. There's some great stuff from everyone in the office. And then the whole book is really designed, like I said, to teach you. And there are QR codes. So you can even scan it and get videos right on your phone, like 30 second quick, just tip videos. So it's really designed even like to what equipment you should have in your kitchen to what you need to get started. You've never picked up anything. So it really does break it down. So please check it out. I think it'll have a lot.

of people. What was your recipe, real? Pasa Galagia. It's like a Sicilian pasta recipe. Fun fact. I can't cook so much that even a cookbook that is for people who can't cook, I could not contribute. I asked. Donnie asked me about that. Donnie asked and I was like

I'm, I kid you not, I can't make a damn thing. So I got nothing. I got nothing. Yeah, Donnie said to me, he was like, I asked Fran too, but I figured you know Italian family, but she said there wasn't really anything I was like. Well, look, unfortunately, what I really have is my grandma's meatballs, which I would...

I would not allow it to be... You can't give that way, I get it. You can't publish a recipe? Is that what you're saying? Correct. Holy shit. My grandma shares it with, like, her children and us and won't really... Like, if you ask her, she'll be like, ah, I throw a lot of...

Yeah, and, like, she'll give you a vague answer. Do you know how to make them? I do, yeah. Okay, can I try them sometime? Will you make them and bring them in? Yeah, yeah. That'd be awesome. That sounds good.

says yeah yeah there's no way for them it's making those meatballs for you don't what i will do what i what i can do is have my grandma make them bring them in that works too and bring them in and then you can try and test them on that way that works this taco was fantastic really really really good i wish i had more i'm not gonna lie i'm glad you guys liked it maybe we'll do this again yeah should we give our rating for donnie everybody be nice you know he's in the room but it's also really i'm kidding donnie you it really does taste really good and I'm not going to lie like I order off I'll order off like Postmates or whatever tacos

none have ever been this flavorful none so this is really amazing I'm going to give it a Is this out of 10? Yeah, out of 10. I'm going to do it a I'm going to give it a 9.4 because if I do a 10 people are going to be like oh you know you're sucking up to Donnie

but it's really fucking good no joke I'm going to do it out of 100 I'm going to do Oh, okay. Oh, you know what, no, I want to do, I want to do the Glennie Balls system. That's what I want to do. Okay. So for those that don't know, it's out of five balls, Glennie, he reviews burgers here and they're fantastic.

I'm going to give it four and a half balls. Okay. It's very, it's out of five. It's a very good taco. It's close. If I do the math, it's similar. It's similar. It's similar.

I just put on you, sorry. That's okay. I am going to go with a 9. I'm going to be specific on this because I'm very sensitive. No, no, I like spicy stuff, but not too. And I like, I will say, which I'm sure is very easy to add because this is very simple. But I do like a little, like, picotagio on my taco because it cuts the spice for me. But the meat is phenomenal.

Like that's, the meat is so good. I'm like licking my fingers. I'll take it. Those are all great scores. So thank you guys. And Noah, I'll get you on. Don't worry. Yeah.

I didn't want to say, but he came in. I was expected. No, it's fine. I missed counting. I was disappointed for you. I'm not going to lie. I forgot Trent was going to be in here, so I counted for. I did count for you, but I'll bring one in two minutes.

Way to go, Trent. Yeah, and now I feel like it. Sorry, Noah. Everyone followed Donnie, though. Yeah, everyone give Donnie a follow. Appreciate it. Thank you, Donnie. That was a great treat.

That was really good. Now I'm ready to recap. Yeah, me too. Oh, and he's cleaning up. Oh, thank you, Donnie. Oh, I put it on in reels, yep. Thanks, Donnie. No, I will get one whether he likes it or not.

Did you want one, Noah? I did, but I don't want to say it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I didn't know. He'll get you one. That taco was so good. That taco was really good. Yeah, it smelled good, so I was like.

I know I spilled some on your notebook. Spilled some on my notebook. Spilled some on my notebook. That's all right. Right. I wonder if, I feel like I was maybe chewing into the mic, and that's going to be unfortunate for some of the listeners. really here much. Okay. Yeah. I was worried. I tried to back away from the mic as I took a bite, but thankfully with the taco, um, soft, soft shell, you know, not a, not a crunchy taco because

then yeah, that would have been something. You prefer crunchy or soft. I prefer soft actually. Yeah, I'm a flower tortilla gal, a lot of corn. I prefer soft as well. I prefer soft, but I get both. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm given the option, I pick flour, but if I was, if I was, if I was Scented corn. I will take it. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

Because with the flour, you can kind of wrap it up, make it like a little burrito. It's a little, you know. You got taco in your hair? I think so. It's okay. I don't see anything, so I think you're okay. Now, the one tough thing is, you know, now on YouTube and I hope I don't have any food in my, you know, food and the teeth. I feel good.

Well, now they know. Well, now they know why. Oh, Donnie's bringing one for now. Donnie's back and he's got one for now. That's great. I love it. I love that. Thank you.

Perfect, amazing. Look how happy Noah is. He's like giddy right now. I'm not going to lie, I'm hungry. Like all I was, you've been waiting for this taco. You work hard, you deserve that taco. Yep. Wouldn't wait for this taco.

Okay, guys. Back to Bennett and Noah. And not this. Bennett. And, okay, what I wanted to say was along what you were saying, right, the, like, it's a little psychoish flavor. And the bachelor, who. who, you know, Kay and Chris, they've been on the show.

They posted on their Instagram a couple weeks ago, an episode that they had named about Bennett and had they put Bennett's face on like the American Psycho movie poster. Yeah. Yeah. Fitting. What I wanted to say was he said to Tasha, he kept saying, Noah is not somebody that I can see being the father of your children and your husband.

And I thought the entire time, Bennett is not somebody I see being the father of somebody's children or a husband because he is so condescending. And I think if he were to talk to his children the way that he's talking to everybody else, his children are going to hate him. They're going to be like, you're a fucking dick dad. And then his children, or they're just going to be losers who talk about emotional intelligence all the time. And they're never going to be able to be kids because Benin's always going to be yelling at them

that they need to be emotionally intelligent and go to Harvard. And they're going to have no other substance besides that. So I don't think he'd be a great husband or father either. And I know I may be going pretty home. hard on Bennett, even though he's, you know, we met him nice guy to us. That doesn't mean a nice guy can't be a sociopath because you know what? That's what nice guys are. They look like nice guys on the outside and on the inside. There's something fucking deep in there.

You clear, we were just watching them doing recently. That's clearly seeping in a little bit. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Speaking of which, you know what I wanted to bring up? What? How calm of a person you are. I wanted to make light of this for a second. You're a calm person. don't get worked up easily. You want to know how calm Trent is. We ordered Wendy's, and I ordered honey mustard with my chicken nuggets. And Trent ordered ranch, correct? And they did not send honey mustard or ranch. They sent barbecue sauce. And I was flustered as heck. I was like, I don't have my honey mustard. I love my honey mustard with my spicy nuggets. And I was like, Trent, did you get

barbecue sauce and he was like no I got ranch I didn't hear a peep out of him that he got ranch he never mentioned he was just going to go with the flow I said that's a calm I don't know what I don't know if we're trying to make a connection here bringing this up while we're talking about Bennett being a psycho you're like oh by the way you're a pretty calm guy yeah nothing ever really gets you worked up huh I'm sure if that happened to Bennett he would have like called customer service and yeah I just knew that I was going to have chicken nuggets I was pretty excited about those so it's like, yeah, I would like to have ranch, but, but wait, do you think I'm a sociopath? No.

Okay. No. Feels like you kind of might. You're just so calm and you wear the same thing every day. It's kind of like there could be a dark secret about you because you are so vanilla. I get it. Yeah, I could tell you right now that I'm not a sociopath, but I feel like it's probably something a sociopath would say.

Exactly. So it kind of perpetuates itself. I can't even look at you. Okay. All right. Continue. Will we ever know? Okay.

The thing about Bennett is that he always thinks that he's right and the things that he's saying are correct. And he can't even begin to think that he's wrong. And he's always talking down to Noah about social intelligence. And I'm pretty sure one of the things that he talks about with him is self-awareness. And Bennett just has none of that. And I think Noah does allude to that. And it's like if you don't have the self-awareness to see how big of a condescending dick you are.

then like you, you're going to fail. Like Noah clearly has self-awareness and he used that against Bennett. And I think that was the deciding factor. Tasha clearly does not like when someone gets talked down to. And I think Noah said making someone feel like they're less and that clearly resonated in some way with Tasia. Noah got a little emotional. Bennett is just, he was more robotic in these moments than I'd seen him ever before. It just, it did not work.

He tried to talk his way out of it when it's like the way he explained. it too. Like, Tager's like, you know, you understand you are questioning my integrity by even saying that. And he's like, well, no, I am not. Like, and here's why. But like the answer wasn't even really an answer. Right.

Because he was questioning her integrity. Like the comment of no, is not going to be here at the end, like shows that. Like that's Taser's decision to make. Her judgment. Right. Still. So that didn't really seem to click. bringing up all the emotional intelligence stuff again with Tasha when it was just the two of them

and doing the whole like Noah is deficient in three out of the four main top like categories of emotional intelligence and there's a few times where he looks like what's the robot's name and I robot sunny is that what it is he's got the same mannerisms as the as the robot and I robot a lot of the time it there's not even as much emotion like and we'll talk about we'll talk about the end of the episode, but when just when he's talking with Tasia, the things he is saying should be full

of emotion, but you can't feel it. Even their The words are coming out and you're like, I can't feel what you're saying. Also, how weird was their walk out? Yeah. It looked like Ben and forgot how to walk halfway through. Yeah, and they got up and he... Is this really goodbye? Yeah, he was. He was like, you're right in that it's all robotic

and it should, he should, he's being walked out to this girl that he says that he loves and he's like, is this happening right now? Yeah. Where are we going? This feels silly. We're going to the car? Yeah.

What's that mean? Yeah. Now functioning. Yeah. And then as they're walking out, he like, he keeps turning and then she's in, he's in front of her. And then he stops. She gets in front of him. And he's confused by the entire ordeal.

It's a very strange sequence of events. He was wondering if that was the time he should pull out his knife. Oh. Whoa. All right. We went folks. Folks. went there.

That went dark. It did. It got dark. But if we're talking about Bennett, I mean, we can't read this guy. We can't read his emotions. True. That's just a fact. You really can't.

I couldn't not get a read. I couldn't tell if he was actually devastated and surprised about what was happening. And that's weird. Yeah. And it's a mix of emotions for me, too, because I do think a lot of Bennett's storyline this season was manufactured. I think he and Noah were made to be the feud. There really isn't any.

other few like there's no the guys all get along like there isn't really in-house drama they needed something yeah i think they really just like clung on to to bennett and who he is and and thought maybe that that would be something and with the present and everything and i don't know like we talked about it last week how involved bennett really was in in all of that but it does it does kind of seemed like maybe he was along for the ride a little bit and was just surprised that his time

had come to the end maybe when he thought he was doing what he was supposed to be doing. I was surprised that he was so surprised. Yeah, because as a viewer... The connection between them is not there. Yeah, as a viewer, it didn't really seem like they had a strong connection. Now, we always like to mention we're not shown, of course,

everything on the show. But I feel like they probably would have played off that connection a little harder to make him going home seem a little harder. As for the way Noah handled everything, I actually thought it was a good sign of maturity, him not telling Tasha what the gifts were because she actually never found out, right, what the gifts were, no? I think.

Or maybe the book? No, Noah told her. Told her about the book for sure. Okay, about the book. No, and I think the presence. What was all in there, bandana, socks, book? Okay. I believe Noah had said.

Like, oh, you know, he gave me socks and then he gave me a book. Like, I'm pretty sure he went into. Right. But it wasn't like a detailed explanation as to what he was saying with each gift and like really tearing him apart. But I think it was funny when Tasha came back because, of course, we thought this was a good moment for Noah. And I think that the conversation we saw Noah and Tisha have, I thought was kind of sweet. It's like Noah was genuinely affected more so than Benner was. Better than Ben.

Yeah, he put on a better performance than Bennett did in acting like he actually cared about the situation. But he was smiling and Tasha was like, oh, no, this is not a victory for you. I was like, oh, shit, I'm kind of scared to Tasha. Tasha lays down the law sometimes. Yeah, it's like, okay. So she didn't give Noah that rose and made him sweat it out a little bit. But overall, I think, Fran, what you mentioned about them just playing up this drama because there's really nothing else. Of course, in prior seasons, you know, when we think back to Hannah Brown season, we had

Luke P. He was the main guy. Everyone hated this guy. He was, you know, and there was a reason behind it. Genuine hate. Like, everybody genuine. The viewers hated him. The people on the show hated him. It doesn't seem like everybody hates Bennett or everybody hates Noah. There's not like one specific person that they're out for. And I think, I think that's the difference we're going to see here because obviously with this season, they're not traveling anywhere. We're in the same resort. So we're not getting as much as we would in past seasons. But with Matt James' season coming up, we're getting the same resort situation.

But I think with girls, you get that natural caddiness. And that drama is going to happen no matter what. You won't need to force it. So I'm ready for like a dramatic season for that. And this season, they're kind of, you know, they're giving us maybe some love this season. Maybe we're going to see some love. Right.

I do think that was a win for Noah. I know that Tasia said it's not a victory. Yeah. At the end of the day, Bennett went home. Yeah, and he did Noah played it. Supposed to go home. Right, right. Well, yeah.

But Noah played it perfectly. He just sat back, let Bennett dig a hole and was like, all right, she's going to see it and she's going to send you home. He handled it very well. And even when he was kind of explaining it to Tatia, he did a good job of saying like Bennett speaks down to me in this condescending tone where it wasn't like he went out attacking Bennett fully. It was more like this is what he has been doing to me. and I've just kind of been taking it. So it definitely worked out in his favor, obviously. They had a cocktail party.

This was at the beginning of the cocktail party. So the guys got a chance to talk to Tasha. Not everybody did. And some of the guys were complaining. They were like, ah, you know, Bennett, the drama between Bennett and Noah, we weren't able to get more time with her, didn't get to talk to her. And Noah was one of those people. Like, Noah, after that scenario, didn't get any more time with Tasia.

So it was interesting that, Tasia didn't give him the rose at the end of that date and was like, I still need more time, but then Noah didn't even talk to her again afterwards. Stunning. Noah, you just have to talk to her. You got to, you got to jump in there, buddy. Hey, can I steal you for a second? You have your work cut out for you. She literally just said to you, I'm not giving you this rose.

We'll see how it, we'll see what happens at the cocktail party. And then he just sat on his hands and did not get more time with her. It made no sense. In a weird way, it kind of paid off. But like, in that moment, I remember. being like you you would just have to talk to her right now. Yeah. You have to get some time because otherwise you're going home.

It didn't end up that way, but you have to get time with her. Yep. Crazy. Yep. The rose ceremony occurred. Ben and Zach already had roses. So they were fine. And this is, this was when I realized like, whoa.

And so did the guys. They were like, holy shit. There's only five roses there. Ivan was squinting being like, how many roses up there? It's like, I can't see that far. Which I don't think it's that far. Yeah. Maybe he wasn't wearing his contact.

So Brendan, Riley, Blake, Ivan, and Noah got roses, which sent Ed, Spencer, and Damar home. Now, farewell sweet Prince Ed, his time has finally come. The fact that he made it, like, it's funny because he, if he told someone who doesn't watch this show when he came home, Oh, I was sent home a week of like two weeks, then two weeks before hometowns. Yeah. Sounds like he made it fucking far as hell. Yeah, the Cinderella story is over. Yep.

I don't need, at this point, I don't remember Ed and Tasha ever having any sort of conversation even. I don't remember them talking. They certainly did not have a connection, but Ed was just always there. At one point, at one point during this episode, I don't know if you guys caught it. He was putting in the Listerine strips, which I have not said. seen those in a decade. He was sitting on the couch. It's just a very fast moment and he's putting Listerine strips into his mouth. I don't know. That was just strange. I hadn't seen those in a while. But some people might be confused why Noah ended up getting that rose despite not getting time

between what happened with Bennett and the rose ceremony. And my guess is that Tasha realized the only other options were Ed, Spencer, or DeMar. And you're just, Spencer, I haven't thought about in three weeks. Ed, I could not believe he was on the show. And Demar, I kind of forgot about him as well. So she probably just weighed her option and was like, I mean, I guess I'll just go with Noah. Because these are the guys I have no connection with. Yeah. That's a great point, Trent. Yeah.

I mean, who else were they going to put up there? Ed again. Imagine, imagine they kept Ed instead of Noah. Well, that would have been great. It would have been shocking and hysterical, but also like, all right, what are we doing here? We're running a show. Yeah. Let's keep the key point Noah.

I was shocked like Ed Moynes was still. Oh, my God. Let's get fucking rid of this guy. I can't take them anymore. The two of you had. almost the exact same time went, oh my God, it's through your hands. What is Blake Moyne still doing on this show? Why is the name Blake Moyne said so often for no reason whatsoever?

I'm baffled by Blake Moyne's presence. Even more so than Ed, like Ed, the only reason I was paying attention, Ed, because I thought it was so funny that he was still around. Blake Moynes, I'm legitimately confused about it. Because I don't, he gets roses and I, again, he's another one where what was the last conversation, meaningful conversation? that he had with Tasha. You got to think that after his one-on-one, he gets sent home. Right. So, oh, yeah, because they didn't get to that, right?

We didn't get to it, got left on a cliff hangar. But I got to think Tasha was like, you know what? I haven't really had it. But it's crazy. Like, she hasn't had any one-on-one time with him. And the hometowns are like, it's like, oh, let me get this guy a chance before I potentially meet his family. Like, so, yeah, I don't know.

He's getting, he's getting that chance. Right. If Blake Moynes gets that one-on-one date, which he will not get. Yeah. He won't. get that rose. There's no way. I would be shocked if he gets that rose, he's going to hometowns. There's just no fucking way Blake Moore is going to hometown. There's no way. I can't wait to watch his date though. I love having something to make fun of. I love it because this season

we'll see we're getting very deep and emotional, which we'll get to and I actually do appreciate it. I want to talk about it. But when we have something that we can just pick a par to make fun of like a Blake Moynes one-on-one when he hasn't had one conversation with Tisha and it's right before hometowns, give me that. Correct. Send him home. Let it be brutal. Let it be a date where he has to get naked again. Send him in the car naked.

The way he came. Salt in the wound. Send him out the way he came in. Yeah. And you know what? Spencer is also one of those that we just have to mention that was sent home because he got that first impression Rose and then disappeared from the show.

Just was nowhere to be seen. I don't know if Tasia was just so physically attracted to him at the beginning where she was like, damn, that guy's hot and that was it. And then like, as soon as she heard him talk, was like, never mind. Because we didn't see him at all. He talked, they played like a quick interview of him

before the Rose ceremony, like, oh, you know, if I, if Noah was the reason why I didn't get time with Tachia tonight, I'll be pissed. If I go home, like, he hasn't talked to Tatea at all. That was it. Like, first impression rose down just, down the tubes. I've never seen a bigger, failed first impression rows.

That's what I was going to say. Obviously there's like a history connected to the first impression rows where a lot of the people that get it end up going very far and sometimes in most cases winning. Spencer just, you know,

he just disappeared, he faded. I don't know what, I can't remember their first interaction out of the limo. It must have been heavy attraction, physical attraction. And then just nothing on an emotional level. I do remember her being like he's hot.

So that, I mean, it carried him for. a couple weeks. Looks can only get you so far, everybody. Yep. Amen, sister. All right.

In my notes, I was so shocked that next week is like hometowns and it was already cut so, like, I've got seven guys, exclamation point. Next week, hometown, exclamation points. Stunning. Just blown away that here we are. I wrote notes in my app.

I want to know if I wrote that down. Like, wow. Wow, hometowns are ready? That's where I was. That's how I was feeling. Nothing. talking to myself. Like somewhere

somewhere in the middle of your bachelorette notes are like don't forget to feed Norman. Ben at being so shocked is worrisome. Like yeah. Yeah. Like I said. Yep. Yep.

Okay. So these guys all find out, you know, hometowns are coming up. They're getting nervous. They're excited. Ben gets the first one-on-one date. They are on these little scooters. Jojo, who looked adorable,

sent them on this scarily. Avenger Hunt, they're getting clues all over the place. It was a very cute date for, you know, eighth graders. Some of the, some of these dates are, they're like deserted. Like if a plane crashed on a deserted island and like they gathered up all the things, like that's how some of these dates feel like, all right, we have 300 tennis balls. We have two scooters and a bunch of pinatas. Right.

How do we turn this into a date? How do we get off this deserted island? That's what some of these dates feel like and this one in particular because it was just random items. It's like Lord of the Flies out there. It was just random items that they threw together and they must have them on the resort. And they were like, all right, let's make a date of this.

And it was fine. We're still learning a lot about Ben because he kind of gives off like a timid vibe but he's also a big, like he's a big strong guy. And we know some of his history now and we know about the Army and things like that. So like when he, when they were doing the pinatas and they went through all the pinatas

and then they got to the last pinata and he just fucking ripped it open with his bare hands. I was like, whoa, all right. Like I feel like there's still so much about Ben that we don't know. And he did open up a lot to Tasha because Tasha was very,

Tasha likes Ben. Tasha likes Ben a lot. And I think that's why she was really like wanting him to open up more because she was like, I still don't really know, enough about Ben like she knows she likes him and has attracted to him and there's a connection but like not getting enough of his story so he he definitely got deep on their date he talked about you

know um going into the army like really young 18 and he enlisted and he was very close with his sister but he broke his back at 26 and that like totally changed his whole life and didn't uh you know all of a sudden that career he thought he would have forever wasn't was impossible um and then Then he told her that his sister saved his life because he had two failed suicide attempts in 2018, 2019. And this is the first time he is even telling his sister. He was like, my sister's going to find this out watching this episode. She doesn't even know that she saved my life because she was the only one that I really had. But this conversation, I'm shocked every week that they are having conversations like this.

And it's so great because people can relate to that feeling where he, even in his way of trying to explain himself, of being like, hey, I didn't want to be a burden to anyone anymore. That's how he felt in his life. And people can relate to that feeling. So it's like really awesome to see him talk about that and to see where he is now and that he is in this place now that he's ready for like the next steps and to, you know, get married. and fall in love and have kids and all these things, but had gone through things like that, that you're like, oh, wow, just to see him on the other side of that is awesome.

Yeah, and I think, like you said, obviously, a lot of people can relate to these sort of situations, and it's not every day that you watch a reality show and they're bringing up serious topics like they have this past season. And I will say, obviously, I feel like some people have had mixed feelings about how deep this season has gone and whatnot. But we talked about this on Caitlin Bristow's podcast, and I'll say it again on here.

I do think that it was about time for the Bachelor franchise to do this because you can only go so long with pretending the outside world doesn't exist without it becoming like really fake and you start to get annoyed like, okay, can we actually address some real things that are going on in the world? And especially what has gone on in the past year in the world, the whole nature of it has changed. And I think that it has caused a lot of people to take an inner look inside themselves a little bit deeper. People are realizing, you know, more they're struggling with anxiety and depression and past traumas that have happened in their life are now coming up and people have to face it head on because there's a lot of sitting around. There was quarantine. A lot of things have happened. So I think it's a good thing that they're bringing awareness to so many different subjects. We had Ivan talking about Black Lives Matter and George Floyd. We had Zach talking about his drug addiction as well as many other things that have happened in his life. We had Ben talking about the eating disorder and now suicide. So I feel like they're bringing light to a lot of serious topics that people deal with every single day.

And if we're really going to get to know these guys and if Tasha is going to get to know these guys, then these are things they got to talk about. And it's also an older, more mature group. They've also experienced more. And I also think that we are getting a good mix of fun mixed in with deep and serious conversations that need to be had at this point. We can't live in a world like we do today and pretend these things don't exist anymore. You know, we're definitely seeing the show grow up a lot in the past.

couple weeks. And it is important because as much as we want these reality shows to be an escape where there's a lot going on in the outside world, we just want to watch some trash reality TV for a couple hours. But the world as it is becoming, everything is getting more blended. Everything is, you can't ignore these things. So it's very important for a show as popular it is as it is to shine light on these things, talk about them, make people feel seen and that these people can relate to these things. I think it's really, really good for the show to be growing up in the way that it is because these things are important. Very important.

And it's supposed to be like a comfort show for people, right? You put on the Bachelor or Bachelorette. You sit on the couch. You're like, oh, I love, like you said, trash reality TV. I love to joke around. Look at this drama. But also in a sense, you feel comfortable because you're like, oh, wow, these people see me.

They understand maybe something I've gone through in my life. They get it. I'm not alone. So I actually think it's a really good thing that The Bachelor is doing this. I think it's about time. Yeah. Yeah. It's a way for them to connect with their audience in a more meaningful way, but still,

keep the show, you know, still keep the show fun. Like they're still doing, you know, Ben, their whole day portion of the date was like, you know, funny, like, ha-ha stuff of running around and doing whatever. But then having these conversations and kind of bouncing back and getting a full look where it's not just like very surface level things is, is really great. And I think Tisha was really, really impressed by Ben and just.

just everything that he had to share and the life that he's had. And, you know, he got the rose at the end of this. And I don't know if it was, like, they didn't show her saying this, I don't think, but it was kind of like a voiceover situation where she was like, I truly love Ben. So, like, things are definitely moving forward with Ben. I like Ben a lot. I know. As do I.

I'm not going to lie, though. Like, Roan. Oh, no. saying, Roan saying he looks like Nate has, it's tough. I see it every time I look at him. Are you kidding me? Yeah, I do. I do too, yeah.

In the, yeah. I do. Roan texting that to me. A little bit. Yeah, when we watch with Rhone, he said the entire episode, he's like, look, it's Nate. I'm like, all right, we gotta stop. Yeah. Yeah.

Looks like the dog. Yeah. Oh, man. Okay, well, let's talk about the group. Anyways, I will say, though, for Ben, I feel like maybe this will be a therapy. therapeutic experience for him in the sense that a lot of people who watch tonight's episode will probably reach out to him with the same, you know, experience, same stories that he's been through. And you would hope that maybe he'll read these messages and be like, wow, I'm not alone.

This was a good thing. I opened up. And maybe it will help him open up a little bit more because as we're seeing, he has trouble opening up to people. Yeah, definitely. I hope he knows that he has so much love and support. and I hope like you know his you got to think like wow his sister I don't know who and maybe he told his sister afterwards when he came home yeah and oh I would assume most definitely won't actually be finding out watching live so it was just a great thing for for him to share and it was just once again

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Was this lie detector test accurate? Who knows? But it was Zach, Brendan, Ivan, Noah, and Riley. Tasha took the test first just to you know they're like oh everybody's gonna do it's gonna be fun we're to do serious topics

funny topics they all got they all got an interesting mix I would say the biggest stories coming out of this were Brendan

getting like the maybe in between about like meeting Tasha's family and Tasha's family meeting his family and Riley saying his name and them saying it was a lie,

but that was, you know, later explained. We'll get to that. They really just threw Riley under the bus with that one. I know. And Zach, and Zach C saying that he had cheated before. Now, the lie detector test is funny because it's like how, and you immediately see a lie detector test and you get scared. Like even watching,

you're like, oh shit. But you remember that these, like, aren't really that accurate. Couple things on LIDA Tech test. One, if they were legit, you'd see them everywhere. They would be everywhere. Every criminal ever would be caught

if those were accurate. Right. And the second, I'm pretty sure I would do terribly at them because I'm pretty sure it's just based on your heart rate. Like I would just be, like you're saying, I would be nervous just seeing one.

So I know Riley got his name, quote unquote, wrong and he explained it later. But I do think I would get that wrong. I'd be like, my name is Trent. Maybe like, no, uh, he's like, fuck. Like, what do I have to do? I really think I would be so nervous to take one that I'd get all the questions wrong.

Yeah, yeah. And number three, if you ever see a lie detector test on a reality TV show or on a YouTube video, it's pretty much guaranteed that it's catering to the crowd here. Yeah. It's, they're playing to the viewers. They're trying to play up drama. They're not going to like actually use the answers that they get. Come on.

Right. And I love Jojo and I think she's been doing a great job. is one of the dates where I wish it was Chris Harrison, where you have like a meet the fuckers where it's like dad's sitting there and he took me up to a lie detector. Joe Joe's too nice. She is and she's been great. But I would have loved to Chris Harrison given the questions, giving them the eye, that would have been great. But yeah, the ZACC thing where he said yes to cheating, that's not great.

And we find out again that it's a little different than as it's posed. But it's better that he said yes and got the green than to say no and get the green. you know what I mean? Or get the red. Go and say no and get the red. So I thought he handled that in the right way. Totally. About as good as you can handle it.

Because at the end of the day, you're telling the truth and not lying. Correct. And that's real, or, you know, allegedly. So that's, it definitely optics-wise looks better to tell the truth. When you get the red light lie situation, then I think it definitely raises more eyebrows. But, you know, these producers, they know all this shit about these guys and probably know what questions to ask or where to go with some of the, you know. these things. So, you know, Tasha really, they really played it up. Who told the truth? Who lied?

And we talked about this last week, right? We said the preview made it seem like there was some kind of problem coming up with Zaxi. And I was like, look, Zach C is the frontrunner right now. They're trying to throw us off by making us think he and Tasha are going to get in this huge fight. And it's not really true. And guess what? It was exactly what we said because she was all nervous about the cheating and he played along and was like, look, you know, my first girlfriend, met a different girl out, the Bolrama, and yeah, we kissed. And that was in sixth grade. So I don't believe that. I don't fucking believe it. I'm telling you, I think that's a fucking lie because he saw the way Tasha reacted to when he said, yes, he cheated. He didn't want to lie

about cheating, but he saw the way Tasha reacted to the cheating and she doesn't deal with cheaters. You cheated on your girlfriend in sixth grade. That's the big story you got for me, Zachsy. I don't believe him. I believe every word. Because he's had a lot happen in his life, and I'd be goddamned if he didn't cheat in the mixture

of all that. I'm going to be honest. He let it all hang out, though, on this show. So what's the point of saying everything else if you're going to have one lie in there that you're going to get caught on? Because she kept saying how much of a deal breaker cheating is for her. So if he's got, so he has all these things that have happened to him. And we're like, okay, Zach sees a better man.

And then he comes in. But that's just something you can't hide. No, but if he said he cheated on his wife, right? Yeah. Tasha got cheated on by her ex-husband. So that's a sore spot. And that would be dunzo. But don't you think that if he really did cheat on his wife, he would have to say

because you're going to find that out eventually? I don't know. I just don't believe. Like if you cheat on. your wife, somebody's going to tell someone that you cheated on your wife. Listen, I like Zach C and I'm rooting for him. Obviously, like, sure, I'll believe that's the story if you want me to.

I believe everyone he said. I don't know if Zach sees a cheat or not, but I had the exact same thought. I was like, roll that lie detector back out here and hook him up again because let's find out if it's true. And yeah, Fran, that's also a good point. Yeah. If he was admitting all these things a couple weeks ago, why not also throw that in there? but there was just something about how it felt, I don't know,

that felt like the cover is like, oh yeah, it was Bolorama and it was sixth grade. But I was like, ha ha, silly me in sixth grade. It's an interesting story to come up with now that you don't, you're not hooked up to the machine anymore. I like Zexie. I think he's a good guy. He's been through a lot. But I'm just wondering, you know, what actually happened.

Maybe he's telling the truth, whatever. But it was just my first thought was the thought that you had. You're telling me he didn't cheat from sixth grade. And listen, I've never cheated in my life. I'm not saying everybody's got to be a cheater. Yeah. But the way he said yes like that, because I feel like if you cheated in sixth grade, you would think about it for a second.

You would think, do I classify that? You know, because it's sixth grade. But that's what a lie detector test would pick up. Like in your brain, like, if you're asked that question and you're like, no, but oh God, what about that one time in sixth grade? Like, you know, but he didn't even think about it. Every instant flashes in your brain where you're, You're like, I got to, I got to say yes.

Isn't that, but isn't that the opposite of how a lie detector test works? If he is, he's joking around being like, oh, no, the time that I did cheat was in the sixth grade, wouldn't then it not come up on the lie detector? If he said, yes, I did cheat when the only thing in the back of his mind is the sixth grade makeout, wouldn't it be red? I don't think so, because it is mine. Why didn't you just say I cheated in sixth grade, that would have come up green and it's like, that's it.

That's what I'm saying. I feel like there wasn't enough, do I, because I feel like if I cheated in sixth grade and somebody asked me if I cheated before, I would think about it. I'd be like, no, and then I'd be like, well, there was that one time and, you know, you would think it out. It seemed a little too fast. Or he was sitting there like, they're probably going to ask me if I've cheated. Let me just say yes. Like, he already knew what he was going to say. The seriousness of his yes.

Yeah. Did not feel like a sixth grade yes. It was a very strong answer to the question. It was. It was. But you know what? I have no reason to not believe him. You know what, Fran, fine.

You have this love for him, a blind love for him, and that's totally fine. You can have that. We can be skeptics. We can be skeptics. Absolutely, absolutely. But I think he's a good guy. I do too. I think you should treat him the same way that you, like, maybe there's people out there

be like, oh, Ria? She's probably cheated before. But guess what? You haven't ever. And you know that. And I know that for a fact. And maybe Zach C is in that same. Well, Zach's up for six years.

He said yes. He did say yes. About sixth grade. I also just love the way they cut these things up because they obviously asked them different questions that didn't make air. That was a good point, by the way, Frank. People definitely do think that. You know what?

They're wrong. They're wrong. The way they cut it up those funny where it's like, uh, Riley, what's her name? And then it's, uh, Zach C, did you cheat? It's like, those are two different levels of questions. Yes. And it does. And it did seem like they were maybe asked.

more questions that that were not included. I'd also like to take back. I did say, oh, everything that Zaxi did, I'd be shocked if he didn't cheat, okay, that everything he did does not make him automatically a cheater, okay? I want to put that out there because people are going to be. Last week when we speculated, we were like, hey, with his pass. So don't worry. We all said the same thing last week.

I had no idea where this was going to go. I think it's good that we have all bases covered. That you like Zach C. you believe him and we're just saying that there could be an alternate angle to look at again i think we think zaxi is a good guy absolutely it's just like you know it's just an alternate you know hypothesis yeah now to wrap this up nicely because they're in love tasha and and um zaxi he said that he really hated like the uh are you falling in love question because he wanted that to me be in a better kind of scenario not like on a lie detector test um he said that to her and

she said that she's falling in love with him too. She said it out loud and to his face. It was that exact. I'm a love with a girl named Miley Stewart. Yep. That exact. That exact reaction. Exact reaction.

It's like Jake Ryan out there telling the world he loves Miley Stewart on National Talbotter Trent has no idea what we're talking about. I feel like now we're doing a different podcast. But that was like that was like. When I heard her say that, I was like, ooh! It's like when Edward and Bella finally realized that they had to be together because, you know, she was like, I need to, I got to resist this. You're a vampire. Kind of like Tasha, you're a bad boy.

I got to resist this. Yeah. But no, I just can't take it anymore. It was when Edward finally gave in and had sex with her too. Exactly. Exactly. It was like, I just, if I kill you, I kill you. Yep, my God just got to tell you how I feel.

That's where Tasha is. Like Tisha just had to say out loud, I'm falling in love with you. Exactly. Looking pretty good for Zach. It really is. It really is. It really is. Fran, are you going to be upset if like I know you're rooting for Zachsy of course, but are you going to be upset? He's off the market. No, I'm not because I'm really rooting for. I love him as a person, but I'm really rooting for him and Tasha too. Like I think I like Zach C so much also because I really love the love story that they're creating. So it is definitely a lot to do with him and also a lot to do with. I think. I think I like Zach C so much. I think. I really love the love story that they're creating. So it is definitely a lot to do with him. I think. think he and Tasha are a great match. Now, Ivan, everybody was very open. Ivan was open. Brendan was talking about how he's nervous, you know, to propose again. Noah, it's funny because Noah's just on like a different page. Like everybody has like a deep story and Noah's like,

you're amazing. Like they, there's really not. That's a, he's 25. Yeah, exactly. And then Riley, we had no idea what Riley was going to reveal. At the beginning of the lie detector test, too, it was funny because he is a very serious guy. And they, I think it was Jojo who had asked him, like, do you do these for work? He's an attorney. And he's like, I advise my clients never to do.

Like, you know, it's like, he's anti-Ly detector test. Jojo's trying to have fun and he's like, no, I will never. Riley's pretty intense. Riley is very intense. He's an intense guy. Yeah, no, he definitely is. and he had to like really give himself a pep talk he was nervous about uh talking to to tasha about his personal life that things he's never revealed before um goes to tasha he says that

the whole name situation like why it came up as a lie was he was originally born jwayne henderson junior who's named after his father and he just kind of got more into detail about like how he had such a great relationship with his father, but it wasn't until he was older that he found out that his father, I guess, you know, may have not been the best to his mother. And he resented his mom for a lot of his life because of the things that his dad had said. And because of all those things and kind of going through all that, he wanted to start over, wanted to start fresh.

So he went and legally changed his name and didn't really look back after that. So that was once again, another very intense story that these guys are opening up about their real life stuff that it's like, no hesitation for revealing these personal stories. I'd like to know a little bit more about Tasha. Amen. Yeah. I feel like we're, like we said, I mean, we're very happy with the stories we're getting. But I also feel like I'm hearing nothing. All I know about Tasia is that she.

we didn't get this deep with Tasha on Colton season. I don't even know how deep her divorce goes. I know he cheated, but that's about it. Like, I want to get to know Tasia a little bit more. Right. These guys have opened up so much. It's like, all right. All right, Tisha.

Yeah, let's crack open your can. If you're one of the guys left, that's something you should do. You should, if you should ask Tash, be like, let's learn a little bit about you. We put, we tell you all of our things. Now tell us some of yours. That would be a good move by one of them. Yeah. Do you think that it is the guys, you know, obviously just not asking.

her about herself or? I don't know. I hadn't really thought about it. It's a really good point that we haven't gotten much Tasha because she's been listening to the guys. I wonder, maybe they've asked her and they haven't shown it, but they would show it. I don't know. Hopefully that it happens in the future.

Because realistically now, it's all making sense to me. We're watching this show. We're watching the guys fall in love with Tasia. I mean, yeah, we're watching the guys fall in love with Tasia, right? And Tasia learning about these guys. but we're not learning anything about Tasha. You know? Like they're kind of just in a contest of who can open up more to Tasha

and Tisha's just going to pick from that. Yeah. We were complaining that we weren't hearing enough about the guys when Claire was on because Claire was too busy talking about Dale the whole time. So maybe that's why we're not getting a lot about Tasia. But I do feel like in the past, I mean, I feel like we got to know, and Hannah Brown is the most recent Bachelor, so she comes to the brain. I feel like we got to know her a lot.

And that's how everybody like fell in love with Hannah Brown. We were like, wow, we really got to know her way more than we got to know on Colton season. Yeah. But I love Tasha and I love the vibe. She gives off. But I feel like we're not learning enough about her. Yeah. I definitely, I definitely get what you're saying.

It's maybe it's just, maybe it's just part maybe that we're not seeing or that they're not showing us. Because, yeah, they are really exposing themselves, these guys and their emotions. and I don't know, maybe, I don't know, maybe we'll see it eventually, but that is interesting. That is an interesting point. All right. We got to talk about the group date rows because everybody was freaking out about this group date rose. The group date rose meant, hey, you're going to hometowns.

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Always remember to celebrate responsibly. This is coming from the Coors Brewing Company in Golden. Colorado. Okay, the group date rose. Dun, done, done. She doesn't give it to anyone. She holds on to that bad boy. She needs some more time to think it over. And I don't blame her. Hometowns are very serious. And these guys, it does feel like it's been sped up a little bit. And she doesn't want to make the, she doesn't want to make the wrong choice. Definitely. And we had Claire do this while she was still around where she didn't give

a rose out during a group day. but it's this what, Tasha's move is actually the anti-Clair. Claire was she didn't like any of them and she only liked Dale. Tisha is she likes all of them and she cannot pick which one to give it to. So I actually, I agree with it. I support her decision not to give it to anyone. I thought it was going to go to Zach C because she clearly said that she's falling in love with him. But all the other guys opened up so much and she had a connection with so many of the guys that I think it was nice that in a weird way it was nice that she didn't give it to anyone.

I'm thinking maybe she was told she couldn't give to Zach C. They're like, hey, it's too obvious. You think so? Maybe. I don't support this move. No? Because I'm getting tired of this. Just give people the roses.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, how many times are she probably knows? Oh, cocktail party over. Not happening tonight. Oh, we're not having a group date anymore. Oh, nobody's getting a rose. Like, can you just give them the rose? The show's supposed to be hard.

You're supposed to be like, oh, who should I pick? Yeah. You know? Just give somebody the rose. Just give somebody the rose. It should have gone to Zach C. Even if it doesn't go to Zach C, give it to one of them. Like literally anyone that you were going to pick, just give it to them.

I think maybe she needed more time to think about the other guys. Like I think she knows that Zach C is getting one. But between Brendan, Ivan, Noah, and Riley, she's got to pick two of those guys because it's not going to be like Moines. Nope. So I think maybe she's. she needed more time to think about who out of that group she was going to give it to, and maybe that would have gotten the group date, Rose, because she's so sure about Zach C. I would think now it's, I don't know, it seems easy to me on paper because I'm like, Noah,

see ya. I don't think, I don't know about Noah going to hometown. She already said that he doesn't, she doesn't think that he's ready for marriage during the whole Bennett thing. Yeah. So I was actually surprised that she kept him around. But again, that was down to the Spencer Ed, DeMar thing. Exactly. Exactly. I think she's iffy on Brendan because he laid it out to her that, you know, he's obviously

nervous to propose again and wants, he was kind of nervous about the timeline and wants to make sure that if he does propose again, it's for the last time. And I think that can be kind of scary to a Bachelorette or Bachelorette to here because in their mind, it's like I want to be engaged at the end of this. And you almost get tunnel vision. when someone's like, oh, I don't know if I want to get engaged. Like, I really like you, but I don't know if I want to get engaged. That becomes a problem in their mind, even though it's like not really a problem.

You know? Yeah, no, I know. Like, it shouldn't be a problem if they really like the person and they just like want to take it slow. But they have to be. But I'm sure they're told the whole time, engagement, engagement, engagement. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you go in, you're the bachelor or a bachelor, you're thinking, I'm engaged at the end of this.

Or that's, that's about what you're supposed to be. So Brendan is so low energy. It's, I can't believe he failed. any question on the lie detector test. He is, I feel like he is at 40 beats per minute all the time, regardless of what's going on, even when this, this was way in the back, but when the Noah M. Bennett thing finally ended and people weren't getting as much time because of No one Bennett, Brendan got frustrated, but he still kept the same, he's like, I'm so frustrated right now.

It's like, that's Brendan at 10 out of 10 anger. He's just, he's really, he's a funny guy. Yeah. It's like you. Like I said, like you're just, you know. No calm. Yeah. Brendan's calmer than I am, though.

Yeah, that's true. He's just like very monotone. What happens when you get angry? That's what I'm saying. Like, do you have like a Bruce, like a Bruce Banner kind of thing? I don't think so. Like the Hulk? Yeah.

Like Bruce Banner is a very sweet, nice, calm guy. Yeah. And you would never know that he's the Hulk in some occasions. But, you know, this goes back to exactly what I was saying at the beginning of the podcast. Like, do you ever have Hulk moments? No, I don't think so. No. That'd be bizarre.

Have you ever punched a wall? Yeah, probably in my early 20s, yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Now, if you did it, it would be a little concerning. Yeah. No, I think I was definitely more, GER, when I'm in my early 20s probably.

Huh. You ever raise your voice? Yeah, of course. Not recent. I don't know. Not recently. I kind of want to piss you off so bad that I just like see what your reaction. I don't know what I could do though.

That's the thing. Like, I don't even know what would make Trent. so mad. Even watching you guys all play Jenga on stool streams, Trent and Robbie are a team on playing Jenga. And like even in the most high stress moment, Robbie's holding the tower like from falling over with one hand. Like it's, he's twisting, he's turning it.

And Trent's like, just breathe. It's like, it's like calm as a cucumber. I don't know. I really don't have an explanation. I wish I had one. Do you do yoga? I used to do yoga, yeah. Maybe it's just stayed with you or something. I feel like I'm just old now.

Like I'm older, I have some perspective. I like the job that I have. You ever hear of like angry dads though? I've definitely heard of angry dads. You know what I mean? Yeah. Just because you're older doesn't mean. Yeah.

But I don't have any, like that's the other thing. Like I have structured my life in a way where it's all about me all the time, which is like, which is what I wanted. That is so true. It doesn't affect anybody else because I've just, I'm just going to, like, do whatever I want all the time. And that makes me very happy. Right. So I think that's really a big part of it. That's beautiful.

I'm honestly just really happy for you, Trent. Thank you. Yeah. Like, are you ever, now we're getting too deep into Trent's psyche today. Do you ever get in a bad mood? Yes. Okay. Yeah.

All right. Fair enough. That's all I wanted to know. Usually early in the morning. Fair. Fair. I'm not a morning person. Okay.

That's I just wanted to know if your moods change. Yes. All right. Very much so. especially like I said in the morning. Let's talk about the last part of the episode, which was probably one of the more shocking parts. Hopefully the heater stops banging in this freaking room.

It's so annoying. Okay. The, nope, still not stopping. Okay. She just had a night. She wants to think about the group date rose. She's having a good time. She comes back and Bennett is there waiting for her.

he came back not only did he come back they go inside they sit down she's flustered he's apologizing again even in his apology it's like I'm so so so sorry like it's just it's hard to feel it

and then he says that he realized in the moment that he was leaving that he loves her literally says I love you and it's like uh our okay we got a problem.

You got a problem because you don't love Tatia. What's happening here? Like what that's, we got to, if anything that I hope that scared the shit out of Tasia even more, but she's like, this guy's gonna go. Well,

and first of all, there was a lot of speculation about in the teaser who this person was going to be. And I don't think anyone predicted Bennett. Yeah. Like I saw some JPJ rumors out there. Yeah. There was obviously the teaser with the guy she was divorced from.

Yeah. Imagine JPJ. Holy shit. I saw someone say that. I was like, that would be wild. No, instead of just Bennett telling her that he loves her. This is worrisome.

It really is worrisome because you don't love her. He does not love her, no. Of course. I wish I could just watch this show and forget about the producers and not think the producers told Bennett to do this. But do I think they told him to do this? Yes. I think maybe they got in his ear and said,

hey, maybe we'll, you know, you have to quarantine anyway before you head back. Maybe we'll send you back to Tasha's doorstep. She did say, in the lie detector test, she did regret sending somebody home. Yeah, that went off. She said to know she did have feelings for Bennett, even though we can't see any of this. It's not apparent to us, but apparently to them.

So I feel like this was orchestrated, but it seems very odd to me. The teaser for next week does make it seem like she lets Bennett stay. Emotions are running high, but Bennett gets to stay. I think Bennett and Noah should both be gone at this point. Just get rid of them both. no idea why Bennett's being brought back into the picture. Actually, I do know why they need some drama for the show. They need to make it interesting. So this is how they're doing that. But it's making me question Tasha when I don't want to do that because I feel like it is very much

a producer thing. But bringing him back makes no sense to me. You got six other guys there that I can name that are better than Bennett. And she knows that. She knows that very well. Every single one of those guys there besides Blake Moynes, I can speak on saying that I like them better. than Bennett, and they come off as a better guy than he does. Yeah. And I just am not really understanding why he's going to be allowed to come back. Yeah, I just don't need more Bennett on this, on this season anymore. I think we were very much done with him.

Again, he's saying he's in love with Tasha. That's not true. And then also in the teaser, we have, there was a little bit of a Mentel All teaser and Noah was there. So it seems like Noah's going to go home. Bennett, I would imagine, is going to go home at some point. We are eventually going to get rid of. Bennett and Noah, I just don't know how soon that is happening. Bennett has lasted way too long.

I'm over it. I think, you know, this is manufactured drama to try and keep some drama coming in, week in and week out because it's also serious right now and Tasha is falling in love and these guys are falling in love and they're trying to squeeze out every last piece of drama that they can get. And bringing Bennett back is going to create a stir. It's going to make the guys question Tasha's judgment. It's going to make them all question why they're there.

if Bennett's coming back, if he was sent home. So we're going to go through the whole thing. Bennett's smile walking back into the room was so annoying. So we'll see that play out on Monday. And I'm guessing then see who was going to hometowns. And then there's the Men Tell All on Tuesday. It appears that Noah and Blake were in that trailer for the Men Tell All. which makes it seem to me like they didn't make it to hometowns.

I would assume that the guys, like, see, I just don't know where things are going to end on Monday. Like, are we going to get Blake's one-on-one date, a rose ceremony, end hometowns all-in-one episode, or are they going to give us a cliffhanger for the week after where we're going to get hometowns fantasy and finale like all that feels all very that feels all very rushed yeah and they put it all for the for the last week um but i would think that the men tell all would not include the hometown guys right that makes sense wait so is the men tell all this next week on tuesday Tuesday yeah Okay. Yeah. So Blake, duh, like we said. Listen. I mean, nobody was picking Blake to go to hometowns.

Noah. Not even Blake should pick Blake. Noah was definitely a possibility. Yeah. So if he's on the hot seat, I feel like maybe he's like the last one to be sent home before hometowns maybe. Yes. I'm trying to, I'm, you're right.

The timeline screwing me up now. Yeah. I think they might do hometowns, fantasy suites finale all in two days. Next week? That's a lot. Giving me anxiety. That's a lot. And that's a lot.

If we have to recap Home Towns Fantasy Suites and the finale in one podcast episode is going to be like three hours. It's a lot. It's going to me, honestly. I'm all for the excitement of that. I know. Me too. That sounds like quite a ride. So who do we think is going hometowns?

Zaxie. Yep. Ben. Yep. Brendan. Brendan. Yep. And then the last spot is between Ivan and Riley.

I guess, because if you can take Noah and Blake out of the scenario, Bennett, I guess it needs to be in the conversation. Imagine. I'd actually love to see what his family's like, to be quite honest. Like, if now we're going to talk about that, maybe we do need to see what's going on with Bennett's family. I can already know what Bennett's family is like. Yeah.

Yeah. I have a feeling me and Bennett's family wouldn't really get along. I've gone back and forth on Bennett so many times this season. It's really something. I agree because at first I was like, obviously, and then we started to like him because he was funny and he was cracking jokes and I liked those jokes, but then it got a little too

serious for me and I was, now I'm not getting great vibes. So who knows? You know what? I think it's going to be Ivan. Yeah. Okay, I did see a trailer of him bawling his eyes now. So I am not quite sure it's Ivan just because I feel, or maybe they're trying to

you know, get us off the scent. Maybe. I feel like, because I saw that of Ivan, it made me think that what I've been expecting all along that Tisha breaks his heart and sends him home before hometowns. She does like Riley, I think. More than, we've seen her interact with Riley more than Ivan at this point. Yeah. I don't know.

It's definitely, it's definitely hard. I do think the producers like saw some entertainment value in Bennett and just like wrung him out. It says, like they just dripped up. They took everything out of him that they could get. And now it's like we're just being forced fed all this Bennett content that is just like, Like, he needs, it just needs to be over. Oh, he's an entertainer for sure.

He is. Yeah. He's, I think he, I don't know. I think he is going to come back. I think all the guys are going to lose it. I think Tage is going to be like, oh, this was a problem. This is probably a mistake. And, and re-send him home.

Boy. So who's your fourth hometown? Ivan. Okay. I'm going to stick with mine. I'm going to agree with that. which is I'm not I'm not positive though because I do think she's really going to go with the guys that she thinks are marriage material which makes sense she's meeting their families who wants to be as serious as possible and I still think she's a little bit on the fence with Ivan if like they're that compatible wise because he is such a nice guy and it does seem like she maybe likes a guy with little edge so I don't I I'm not not sure, but

I don't know. I still think, I don't know. I'm going Riley. Yeah? I'm just going to lock it in with Riley. I don't know. I did say,

back and forth here. I'm just going to go. I did have Riley in my top three, though. So I guess I should just stick with Riley. They certainly, all appearances would say that they have more of a connection than patient Ivan. I would think so.

I would think so. So there we have it. It's going to be a jam-packed couple of weeks. Jam, absolutely jam-packed. We will be back next week. Full recap of both episodes on Wednesday and cutting stems will be on Tuesday night where we will recap both Monday and Tuesday all together on Tuesday night. So expect a longer show.