Chicks in the Office - Love is Blind Finale + Joe Gorga & Frank Catania Interview

Episode Date: November 11, 2022

NEW UGLY SWEATERS > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Jonas Brothers fans are humble (00:00-18:42). New segment: Weekly Watch Report (20:04-36:33). Love is Blind finale recap (37:37-50:08). Interview with Joe Gorga & Frank Catania – talking everything Bravo, their live shows + more! (52:20-1:50:35). Subscribe to our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

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We have an awesome episode. A lot of TV coverage across the board. This is a very TV-influenced episode. But we had, first of all, I'm extremely excited. for the Jones Brothers. I want to throw that out there. If there are any ladies that are going to be in Vegas for well, if you're listening to this

it's Friday, I'm hoping to go Friday night. I'm not going to do pit because I have pit tickets for Thursday night. So I can't say like if you have a pit for Thursday night. Do you have any let me know? Do you have any other plans for the weekend?

Not a single thing. And you're saying to them. Not having a massive just like fan Just a fan girl weekend. I probably, we're like waiting last minute to go probably again Friday night, but like just try and get like cheap tickets and go. But there's like events, apparently, not events. Like Nick's doing like a signing somewhere. Papa Jonas's restaurant.

They're doing like a trivia thing. So I'll probably just be bouncing around. Are you going to go to a Nick Jonas signing? I might. I just might. I'm sorry. I just can't imagine Nick Jones. Jonas's reaction to you pulling up to his signing.

I don't think he, I don't know if he would even remember. Fran, he knows who you are. I know, but sometimes, like, he's seen so many faces, like, unless, I don't know if he'd be like, oh, they were on the show. We did an entire. You spent a whole day at a brewery with him. I know. You got drunk with him at Penn State. Priyanka has talked about it's multiple times.

You think you're going to roll up to the signing and there would be a light bulb. I don't know if he would remember, like, my first. name. No, not for, no, but he sees your face. I think he would know your face. Well, we'll have to test out this theory. He's not an idiot. I'm not saying he is.

I'm saying more they do so many interviews and meet so many people that sometimes you just don't. Yeah, but. And do you remember most of the people that have been on your show? No, but I'm just saying from a standpoint of like, we have had, we have met a ton of people who

listened to our show. Yes. like I and they introduced themselves like I'm not going to remember everybody's name Fran from interacting with them like for me had a passing with Nick Jonas you have had multiple you spent hours hours with them I understand Priyanka the last time she's on the show literally said Nick told me to say hi I just like I don't know if Priyanka would know my first name if I saw saw her in public I'm not saying I think this is I think it I think this is insane you would think that they wouldn't know you.

I think that's insane that obviously Kevin and Frankie would 100% know you. And also we heard from somebody else in this office that they saw Joe Jonas the other day. And Joe Jonas was like, oh, you know, chicks in the office. I love them or whatever it was. Yeah. But the names and faces can be hard sometimes. That's all I'm saying. I just, I would never.

I'm just, I'm really, I'm shocked. Guys, maybe it's because I'm so much of a fan, but I would just like, I wouldn't want to... I think this is cute, but I think it's crazy. I wouldn't want to get my hopes up to, like, go in and be disappointed if he didn't remember me. Fran, I think, first of all, it's crazy that you're going to a Nick Jonas signing. I think a lot of things are crazy here. That is so crazy.

First of all, I'm going with other, like, Jonas Brothers fans who have not had the opportunities that I have had. So they all want to go. What am I going to be like, oh, guys, I've already met Nick before. I'm not going. No, no, no. But here's the thing. I said there's layers to it. I think it's cute and fun

and I also think you going and also not thinking he would know who is crazy. But I also think it's, I think that's nice, but I also think it's crazy. You know, you know how I am. Okay, I just don't want to build my hopes up and be disappointed. Will you say anything?

Or are you just going to, like, are you going to be like, hey, it's me? Are you just going to act like you guys have never interacted before? It all comes out first interaction. That would be unreal. If he sees me and makes the connection, I will be much more open, maybe he'll chatty.

If he doesn't, I would definitely volunteer the information. That's what I'm saying. I would hope you would be like, hey. No, I absolutely would. They're very, like, down-to-earth people, I feel like. When we, after, when we first went to Denver in Sad Joe, Joe came up to me to be like, hey, man, like, it's been a while.

I wouldn't go up. I wouldn't go up and be like, and just not. say anything at all. That would get my bottle a tequila sign and then leave. That would creep me out. That's what I mean. That would creep me out. What if he like I wouldn't do that? But there would be a little bit of disappointment first off if I had to be like, remember me, Fran from Jinks in the office.

I don't know. I don't know. Good luck. And I'm trying to rob my head around all this right now. Guys, I have a weird brain when it comes to the fandom situation. Yeah. I just do. I'm getting nervous. I'm sweating already thinking about it. I don't know, man. Yeah, I don't know what to tell you. I don't know. I just...

That's just where my mind goes in this situation. Like, I hope you know where... Like, I'm not making fun of you. I think it's... You need to have a little bit more confidence in yourself and them. I think, yeah, maybe it's them. I just think, like, George Brothers fans in general are just... very, um,

humble people, if that makes, like, I just, all I'm saying is I'm, I am going with other people who have met. I'm going with other people. I want to make that a quote card. I wish people can see me in Noah's face.

They are. Like, cut on YouTube. Yeah. Guy, can you let me finish? That is the funniest quote I've heard. As opposed to us John Mayor fans, we're all assholes. Perhaps. us Jonas, we're humble people.

I just think that the group... That's quite the generalization. The group... Oh my God. I'm not going to finish. Go, go, go, go. Because the group of girls that I am with, like, have met them many times before, but still, like...

Wait, they have? Go to their events. Wait, your friends have that? But, like, as, as... As fans, not as, like, they haven't gotten to sit down and interview them for 45 minutes, or tore a brewery with them. No, no, I know, but when you said, oh, I was going to sign in

because my friends haven't had the same. I thought you meant that. No, I meant, like, bigger opportunities. Oh, yeah. They have met, like, they've met them before, so it's like, you know, we, we keep going back to these things. It's not like a one and done. Well, oh, we've got, like, you know, we met them before.

See, that's what I don't. I'm not going to show up at their, like, events. Yeah. No, not show up at their events. Like, you would still go to their shows. I'm just saying, like, the meat, the meat part. Yeah, but it's less like a meat And more like, you know, we're supporting him

He's doing a tequila He's selling his tequila And well, we're gonna go support Let's say we have a live show The Jonas Mothers fans are super humble We're humble people I can't wait to run into an asshole Of a Jonas Brothers fan

There's not many There's some out there I'm sure Let's say that we have a live show And someone shows up to the meet and greet That's been on Or you've been on their show Or they've been on your show but they're coming to the mean and greet

to like me what would your reaction be? I, we have met people who have met us before and then meet us again and I'm always like, wow, you, I'm shocked that they like us so much. That is such a different question

that you're asking right now. That is a beyond different question. I think I'm answering different. You can't put me in this situation of being like we're not as famous as the Jones price. It's a lower level, but it's somewhat the same idea. Well, I think I was answering,

I think I was answering it differently, but I, we have had and also we are not like the fact that we're even talking about us in this same conversation I said it's like crazy but I get the question I get the sentiment of the question we have met people before that we

that have come to meeting greets and then come to another being agreed and my takeaway is always I think that is very nice and I'm but my takeaway is that's not what I'm saying I'm answering this story I'm always like you like me that much like I'm all I'm just like you like me that much No, I was saying more like someone who's like in the industry Who's been on the show

That's like an insane comparison There is nobody that has been on this show That would come to our meeting great We interview very famous people Not always you have like you do like swaps with podcasts and stuff They would never come to a game great of ours Yeah but that's like not the same It's just not the same thing

And I can't say I'd go to a meeting of theirs to be honest It's like that when it comes to that That's like those people were friends with Like when we do podcast When we have a podcast swaps. We're more friendly with those people. Tyler C shows up to the meeting group. We're friends with those.

Like we're friends with those people. So like, yes, that's a very nice idea. But like, it's not, you have to think of people that are like, low, low, low, low, low. It doesn't even really exist. This has reached a part of a conversation that we did not intend to reach because we shouldn't even be mentioned the same name as the Jonas brothers. If I went to a job, I would be a one and done thing from me. I wouldn't go to another one after it. I.

And so I understand that. And that's also me. John Mayer fans are assholes and George brothers are humble ones who will keep on coming back to support their. Is it support or is it like, it is support? It's, no, but support is going to the shows. Well, we're we do it all. Right. We're going to the show.

It's not like we're just going to like get a fucking tequila bottle sign to leave. No, but I think that like the meet and greets and the signings are like you want to meet them and get pictures. Yeah, for sure. But I also think like if we were, I'm more. I can't believe I'm continuing to compare these situations. Like I'm sure Nick Jonas doesn't really care that much. But like I'm sure Nick Jonas would love to know that a lot of people are showing up. Oh yeah.

Tequila signing. It's at a random fucking liquor store. But also I don't think he's worried about no one showing up. It's Nick Jonas. Like people are showing up. Yeah, but you want like there's still an ego boost to be like, damn, look at all these. Like, look at like, there's a line down the sidewalk of people like and you know. And you don't care if it's people that have come before.

You don't care. Exactly. Next time. Is Fran here here? Is Fran here? She's probably too humble to think that I would remember. I'm very excited. Do you think they just sit in the green room before I just go, we have the most humble fans?

Yes. Thank God. You know what? We look up and we thank God every day that our fans are so humble. Amen, let's get out there, boys. Other artists are like, what's it like to have humble fans? They meet the Jonas' fellows. They're like, one question for you.

What's it like to have the most humble fan base? My fans are so mean to me at the mean of greets. It's not mean. It's just not having a sense of entitlement when it comes to, there's a lot of fans that feel a mega sense of entitlement when it comes to the person there in a fan. I think maybe here's the thing. I've never been a part of like a fandom like that.

And I don't judge anybody who does. I think that's very, I love that you love Jonas' brother so much. I think I love a variety of things and not like one thing immensely. Like I love a lot of different things. so I don't like pour everything into like one group or person or whatever it is. Would you say the believers are humble? I don't really know.

I'm just speaking on behalf. Like I'm speaking of the people that I know. I don't know them. It's more of just like, you know, there. I feel like one direction is pretty toxic. Sometimes there's a severe sense of entitlement when it comes to these groups of people. All right. So if you had to rank the most humble fan bases.

I can't do it because I don't know. John's brother's huge drop off, BTS. It's Jonah's supposed all the way up here and then everybody else. I don't know. They don't even know.

They would never rank because they're so humble. Oh, man. All right. Well, friend, we're rooting for you. We hope you have the best weekend. And I make fun of me all you want. I'm going to make that a quote card.

That is just my favorite quote. Maybe ever. But here's a thing, though. Where are the crazy ones in this situation, no? so many people that are like, she's right. She's right. We are the most humble fans. Or there's going to be like other fan bases.

We're like, no, we are. Yeah. Oh, and then we have a fan base divide. I would like the quote to be accurate. I didn't say most humble out of all other fandoms. I said we're very humble. So there was no comparison to other fan groups. No, no. We're doing the comparing for you.

I'm just saying if Noah's really going to make the quote card, don't make it so that people think I'm dissing other fandoms. No, we're just saying the other. fan bases We'll be like, well, we're humble too. Might jump in and say, we'd like to say that so-and-so has very humble fans.

They're more than welcome to do that. I can only speak on behalf of the Jonas Brothers fans. And I bet you some of them don't even want me being the voice. I was going to say, do you think that the Jonas brothers fandom wants you to be the voice of the Jonas Brothers fandom? Probably not.

And I'm not trying to be. Honestly, what I just said was very nice. So I hope that people think that that's nice. Who else would be? Yeah. I mean, they have to have a leader. No, their most humble leader. There's some very dedicated, very dedicated fans. All right.

Let's get into the rest of the show. Everyone, let's hope that McDonus remembers Fran. Yeah. If I, you know, if I go. If she goes. Also, we should just say about podcast in general that the podcast will be on YouTube now very, like early in the morning. Yes, the podcast will be up on YouTube early in the morning.

Shout out to Sarah, who is our new team member. She's awesome. She joined us last week And her third day was our live show in Boston And she crushed it So welcome Sarah We're very happy to have you. Monday's obviously

It'll come out like a couple hours after Yeah because Monday we record on Monday So that one will be later But yeah today's episode Or I'm speaking today it's Yeah today's episode will be 8am m. Yes everything will be up early

So subscribe to the YouTube channel And if you listen Because you want to listen in the morning But you also like watching on YouTube well now you have the YouTube early in the morning as well so shout out to Sarah and Noah and well done everyone Devon keep coming um all right let's get into the rest of the show we are going to be talking about all the TV shows and movies that we watch in our new segment um what did we weekly watch report the weekly the weekly watch report it's going to be like a like a news i'm

going to have like a newsy sounding yeah this is no no Noah drum this one up, so we can give credit to him. No, yeah. I want to hear the shows you're watching. They want a place. They want a place where they can go and see all the shows that we watch because you can lose sight of some things, but it will be on our Instagram where you then can go back and go

what do I want to watch right now? And then you can go to our Instagram and say, oh, Ria and Fran watch this and this is what they thought about it. So, shout out to Noah. Separate from our love is blind discussion. Then we'll be talking about love is blind because the finale came out and the reunion. And then we have an hour and a half of of Joe Gorga and Frank

Catania which was awesome. They really are something else. They really are. They're fun. They're funny. Reminds me of just you know, family member almost like I always forget. We're talking to them and I forget where I am. It's just a fun time. So make sure you tune into that. It's a fun listen, funny. So let's get into it.

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I wasn't planning. Or in the graphics, I didn't have my name on anything. I think you should participate. Okay. So, where do we want to start off? He's not prepared for his first day now. No, no, I'm sorry. I'm actually am. I've watched a couple things this week. All right, so how are we doing?

Do you know the season and episode number? It's not, well, it was mostly movies. But it's not just new things, by the way. Yeah, it's a lot of rewatch. So I want that to be clear as well, because we talked about this right before the show, that when we put the graphic up, I don't want people. people to go, oh my God, that's the first time you've ever seen She's the Man, because I watched

that this week. No, I just rewatched it. Yeah. So there is going to be a lot of things. And I also rewatch a lot of shows before bed. Yeah, it's more like what we're watching. Yeah, it's like what we're watching. And some is repeat, some's first time. I guess we could also maybe distinguish that. We could put in the graphic parentheses. We could have like a little index or something. Like if it says

like, rewashed. Rewatch. Repeat, rewatch. Yeah, yep. Yeah. I think I have the shortest list. Okay. So I'll go first. Okay. And we're doing school grades. Maybe we'll have some overlap.

Yeah, A minus A, A plus. Okay. All right. I'll start off with the Lizzie McGuire movie. Wonderful. Rewatch. Rewatch. Lizzie McGuire movie.

And I'm going to give that an A plus. One of the best plot twist of our generation. It is. Never saw that coming. It's honestly such a good movie. It's such a good movie. And as you're watching it, when you're younger, did you really think that Palo was the one that was wrong all along? No, you didn't see that coming.

No, you didn't. So I'm going to give that an A plus. It was also insane that she was graduating eighth grade. Insane. When you really, you're like, she was 13. They're like, wait, she's 13. They look like they're 18. I honestly had that thought while watching it. I was like, wait, they're not going into college. They're going into high school. Yeah, it's literally eighth grade. It's insane. She was a pop star in eighth grade. Yep. Then I watched. she's the man. Another re-watch. Maybe like say where you can watch it too. Just,

uh, Disney Plus. Lizzie McGuire movie was on Disney Plus. She makes a lot easier for people to go if they want to watch them. What? Just you're at, you're really adding. No,

I mean, I think it's fair. Yeah. You know. That's fair. Uh, she's the man I rented. And I probably,

it's probably on one of the streaming services, but I was watching it on a TV that I didn't have the streaming services on. And I just was lazy and I was like, well, just rent this for $2.99. She's the man. I'm going to get. I mean, you can't give

I know you can't go back to back but you also cannot give she's the man not an A plus I know I know that's where I'm struggling here I'm gonna give she's the man an A plus as well You have to

It's one of my favorite movies Those are both A plus movies Those are A plus And you know what? That was my goal Because I felt This is gonna sound weird But after the Boston live show

There's so much hype that night Right there's so much hype We meet so many people We're getting on stage We're drinking a lot There's a lot of like different emotions. The next day I was like, I just want to watch some wholesome, good movies. And therefore, the Lizzie McGuire movie and she's the man, both A-plus movies.

I went out of my way to choose those A-plus movies. Re-watch this week, Curb Your Enthusiasm Season 2. The whole season. Majority of the episodes, they're quick episodes. You watch White Lois. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's on there. I mean, I come...

Oh, I thought you just transitioned into... Transitioning into TV. Okay. Curb Your Enthusiasm, Season 2. Yep. I'm giving it an A-minus just because it looks old on the TV. Pretty, pretty good one might say. You know, you know, what's kind of tough about the grades?

And it's... Maybe it'll be different for re-watch. Like, I mean, for new stuff, like when you try a new show. But, like, re-watch... And shows that you, no, no, rewatch and shows that you watch week to week. You like the show, obviously, because you are watching from week to week, or you're going back to rewatch it. Like, you're not going to be like, curb your enthusiasm, season two went back to rewatch it again. D.

Well, you could watch something for the first time. Yeah, you could watch something for the first time to and be like that, I fucking hated that. I'm giving it a F. Yeah, maybe. I mean, I just don't want, like, I'm trying, maybe it's just because I'm looking at my list. I'm like, I'm not going to have anything that I like didn't like. Well, I'll go into the White Lotus. So carbon enthusiasm, A-minus.

I'm giving it just for production purposes watching on. It's old. But very funny. Very fucking funny. Those earlier seasons, I feel like don't get rewatched as much because they are so many seasons. But my God, they are really fucking funny. The White Lotus, episode two. Season two.

Season two, episode two. I'm going with a B-minus. for the second episode just because it didn't pop off to me. That's really it. I like the season. I like it since Cicely. I was a little frustrated, which I think is just the point of the White Lotus, so you just get frustrated with people.

And then Love is Blind, which will, where we are doing a recap, finale, I will give a B-plus. It's a good finale. I liked the finale. I'm going to give it a B-plus. You know, the drama fell off with A. after a little bit. The beginning had a lot of hype, a lot of drama, and then it fell down. And then the reunion, I will give a B. Yeah, the reunion wasn't as juicy, I would say. Actually,

I'll give it a C. I'll bump it down. The reunion wasn't as juicy as I was expecting it. It had its moments, but it did, but it didn't go off as much as I wanted it to. And that's all I watched this week. Thank you for having me. Good job. Thank you. Okay. I did not watch any movies this week. Interesting. I probably will not be throwing out a lot of movies unless I'm going to a movie theater. I don't, like I'm a TV at home. I'm a TV person.

Okay. I watched, this is also kind of behind too. So like a lot of shows I don't watch live, obviously. You watch it like a few days later. so by the time this comes out there's new episodes of a lot of these shows but I haven't watched them yet so I got to go with the ones that I watched Real Housewives of Salt Lake City Real Housewives of Salt Lake City

Season 3 episode 6 that's from last week gonna give that one a see I'm moving along Salt Lake City is like one that I'm kind of like I'm into it but I'm not fully locked in Winterhouse Season 2 episode 4

I'm enjoying Winterhouse. This is like a B-plus. I miss this episode this week. Yeah. It's short seasons, but the Tom's are involved, and I like that they're there, and I felt like it was good. Now, this is where I don't know how much,

like, I'm really going to include on this because, like, I watch The Voice every week. I watch Dancing with the Stars every week. Like, the voice was knockouts part three. It was a great episode. It's a good season of the voice. I like the battles. I like the knockouts.

So I'm probably going to give that a B plus. And I'm going to combine all the Chicago's. Okay. Because I watch them all together. I watch them in a row even when they're not, like, supersized. So I watched episode six of each of these seasons. Med, Fire, and PD are all in different seasons, but they're all episode six. I would give a B plus.

To all of them. To all of them. Okay. PD I liked a little bit better. So maybe I'd do B plus for med and fire and a A minus for PD. It was an interesting episode of PD. Okay. Buying Beverly Hills, I started.

That's on Netflix. I die in hear your rating on this. Yeah. Season one, I watched episodes one through four. I haven't finished the whole thing. This is a, this is a, this is a B minus.

Oh, not selling me to watch it tonight. No, I like it. Like, it's good. It's good, but I'm also only, I'm through episodes one through four. So I don't know if things like get a little juicier. I've only watched the beginning. I'm intrigued by the family dynamic, but as of right now, it's just not as juicy

and I just don't care as much about the other people. Like I care about the Umanskys and their story, but like the other realtors and stuff, I'm like, I'm not as invested into their stuff. That makes sense. Stuff. Yep. So like I'm really more like fair and Alexia like that interests me much more. I also tried, oh, Dancing with the Stars, I'll give an A minus.

That's just, it was a double elimination. That's always a juicy episode. White Lotus, season. one, episodes one to three because I'm watching those for the first time. This is tough because I give the episodes different grades. Like the first episode

I've really liked, that was like an A minus. Two and three were probably B's. Yeah. It's one of those ones that first episode hooked you in middle of the season. You're like, where the fuck is this going? I'm obviously excited. It's only six episodes, so I'll finish it. But one was definitely locked me in and then two and three

I was like, okay. Yeah. Where is it? got on. Yeah. Um, Abbott Elementary season two, episode one I watched very, I love, Abbott Elementary is an A always. It's probably going to stay for that the whole season. I also tried, uh, the Culpo Sisters on TLC. Episode one, honestly, I liked that more than I think I did more than I liked buying Beverly Hills, I think. I would give that a B plus. Very nice. Yeah. Very nice list you got there. I, um, I'm intrigued by the show. More so, like, I feel like Olivia does share a lot about her life on social media.

So, like, the sisters is very interesting. Aurora talking about, like, her marriage. Her marriage was very interesting. Olivia did reference her relationship with Nick Jonas. Talked about how, like, when he broke up with her, like, she didn't really have much going on. She thought she was going to marry to. Yeah. Yep.

Yep. So that was some tidbits that you always wondered about, and, you know, they're sharing more now. And you see their whole family. I liked it. I thought it was like a good kind of Kardashians-esque where they have, like there is drama involved, but then there's also just like cute

family dynamics. Yeah. That's everything I watched. Is that a nice list? That was pretty long. I'm probably... How many was that? Yeah, that was long.

For the sake of just sounding like a teacher to our listeners, like I feel like I'm going to have to shorten my list from week to week. And like not include everything. Like I'm probably not going to be giving the voice and dancing with the stars of grade every week. Yeah, just you had to this week.

Like I'll just mention that I am watching those, but for the first one, I'll really include everything. But week to week, I feel like I might not have to fully include all of them. It's a lot. Yeah. For me, I did watch the White Lotus season two. Oh, wait, I did forget to grade Love is Blind. Should I grade Love is Blind?

So what's your grade? Love is Blind finale was an A-Minus. Love is Blind Reunion B. That's my grade. Oh, we're tough. We're, we're, we're, I'm a tougher teacher. You are. You are tougher, you're a tougher writer.

Go ahead, no. Yeah, so I watched The White Lotus, season two episode two. I would give it a C plus, not really. Yeah. Didn't do anything for me. I like the first one better. So hopefully that gets better. I watched this movie, this was like more last week, but all quiet on the Western front.

A plus. One of the best movies I've seen in a long time. It's on Netflix. it's in German mostly but it's incredible I realized halfway through I didn't tell anybody where they could watch anything yeah yeah anyways people can look it up

war movie huh yeah it's a it's a famous book but I was gonna say I've definitely heard that name it will make you never want to go to war like it is the most it's I do feel like most war movies no but like some war movies like glorify war and everything like this one is like so intense and seemingly realistic.

What war are we talking here? World War I. World War I, okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's a, but great movie. Okay. And what else did I watch? I watched.

You said you watched the Jennifer Lawrence. Oh, I did watch the Jennifer Lawrence movie last night. Causeway? Causeway, yes. I would give that, I'll give it a B minus, even though I'd want to give it lower. But it was good, but it just not, I didn't love it. Like, it's just really depressing and slow and very depressing.

How was her acting? I heard this was a big, like, it was a big return to a dramatic role. Like, people were like, she's really good in this movie. She did a good job. The other guy, what's his name? Do you know his name? Yeah, he's good. He's really good from Atlanta.

Yeah. But. His name is Brian Tyree Henry. Yeah, he did a good job. Last night While I was editing I put on this movie on Netflix Just as background

While I was working Called Man on the Ledge I'm not sure if you've ever heard of that I have I have It was just Sometimes I find a movie That's just a ridiculous plot

And I'm like good Like Just throw this on Don't really have to pay attention to it And I'll give it a B-minus Just for like some Someone to put on It's nothing great

Yeah That's a 31% on I'm wrong to me That's what I'm saying. Like those bad movies that are like... I will not judge any movie off from Ron Tomatoes. No, no, no, I know. Sometimes they're like, I mean, it's...

I wouldn't, I wouldn't say like... Because I'm sure that if you search... Okay, it's got a 52% audience score, so... Like, all quiet on the Western Front, I'm sure... It's very high. 92, like... Yeah. But...

Noah falls in line with the critics a lot of the times. No, but I think that Ron Tomatoes gives you, like, a good... age. Yeah. But I do enjoy movies that are terrible. Like, man on the ledge. Yeah, you did give it. I mean, a B minus.

B minus for like what it is. I'm not saying like it's a B minus compared to all quiet on the Western front. It's a B minus for like a move you throw on when you're bored and it's fine. You don't have to pay attention too much. I forgot something that I watched last night along came Polly. Oh, great movie. Oh, great movie. That's an A.

That's a solid A movie. I was actually. watching Wedding Crashers too. Great fucking movie. That's an A plus. That's an A plus. Wedding Crashers is unbelievable. Truly.

I watched that recently too because they put it on Netflix. Great fucking movie. Yeah. Let us know what you guys think of this side. Yeah. What are you guys doing with it? We can do better. Yeah, we can advance.

I'm a little iffy on the way we just did that. I'm not going to lie. Only because I feel like it works so well for social and I don't know if it translates to audio as much. You know? Right. Like reading it, it's like, When you're just looking and reading, it makes sense.

But us, it sounds, it feels very repetitive. It does. Audio wise. So let us know what you guys think and what we should change or what we should do. Yeah, maybe, maybe this is like a test run. It is. It's a pilot episode. It's a pilot episode.

That might not go to air. It's a pilot segment. Well, it is going to air. Well, you guys will hear it. You might get canceled after episode one. Yeah, maybe we just like have to pick a small list or something. I don't know. All right.

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He could have not gone to the altar. This is a thing with this show. It's like, would it have been nice if he had broken up with her before? Yes, absolutely. But I feel like, I don't know if they have to. or if producers push it, but it feels like all the breakups always happen at the altar.

It's like there's not many that happen beforehand. But the drama there was Nancy's family was very upset, which is super fair. Like I feel like, you know, the contestants sign up to be on a reality show, but when you're having a full-blown wedding and your family's there and everyone's dressed up and you have to like watch this person, like, say no,

that's got to be very hard for the families. Right. I see both parts of it because I can't stand Bartis, so literally cannot stand. Yeah. Like I just can't stand him as a human being. So I'm not defending him in any way, but like a little, I get it because I don't know if I'd be able to control my family's reactions. But I also think that you got to go into it with the, this is a reality show mindset and anything could happen. And, you know, like just have that open mind.

and I think that Nancy's brother kind of did have that where he was right and then it just was very dramatic and like I didn't want to be right I didn't want to be right I was like I know I think they were just sad I know they were sad for her and they were emotional and I get it

but it also it's like you could also just be like I fucking get it you know it's reality show like expect him to say no I didn't like how Bartis spoke to the brother too I didn't like how we spoke to the mom or the brother like who the fuck do you think you are like

you'll have your turn And shut the fuck up. Like, he really thought who he was and that he's so much better than everybody and so much more mature and he's just not. Like, oh, I totally was so turned off by the way he talked to her family. Yeah. Yeah. It just was like, like, shut up, dude. Like when the mom's like trying to see if Nancy's okay.

And I understand Nancy being like, mom, like, I need to talk. And he's like, I'm trying to talk to my fiance. Like, bro, you don't even want her to be your fiance anymore. You don't want to be her wife. So don't say, don't pull the I'm trying to talk to my fiance line when you're about to because she's not going to be your fiance any longer. She's not even going to be your girlfriend. You guys aren't going to be together.

So shut the fuck up. I wondered if maybe he thought that like she would still want to date him or something or I don't know if he like thought that that was how I was going to go down. But they clearly don't want to date. He clearly doesn't want to date her. I know. I know. I think maybe I'm saying it from solely from the place of like him wanting to save face while

cameras were still rolling. Like while the cameras were still on to be like, oh, well, let's see if we can make it work outside of all this and then like they get to the reunion and they're like oh we tried and it didn't work but Nancy was very clear she was like you just said no like this is done when he was like you'll have your turn

I know I really don't know her that well I know I really did not like that at all from the preview it looked like there was going to be maybe a little trouble for Alexa and Brennan but smooth sailing baby those two went right to the altar they said their vows his vows were so sweet really sweet they just

they see one I really, really are in love. I know. They seem really, like, they seem solid. I'm hoping the best for them. Like, it's a good sign when the only drama, it seemed like they had was like closet space. And dishes. And dishes.

So they're definitely in a good place. Cole and Zinib had their trip to the altar as well. She was very nervous, emotional. They were going back and forth on, they thought they were going to say. say yes or no. And then she had a fairly strong, like, list of things that he did and, you know, hurt me and knocked myself confidence and all these things. And, like, then she was like, I'm not marrying you.

She walked off. Her friends started to cheer for her. Thank God they didn't get married. Not surprising she had a list. But also, she did name some things that were like, yeah, you guys definitely shouldn't get married. Yeah. That's just not it

No that definitely made sense And Cole seemed blindsided by it But he definitely shouldn't have And honestly The most blindsided I was In the whole finale was Colleen and Matt saying yes I was like oh my god

Really shocking I couldn't believe it when he was like Absolutely yes I was like well all right then These two are fucking married okay Shocking From the way that they were In the previous episodes

Like in between pods and this, like, I just couldn't believe that they were going to say us, but I guess, you know, Colleen in the bridal suite did make it seem like she was like, look, I'm just, I'm going to ride this thing out. Like, I love him and like, let's just go for it and see what happens. So they both took a massive leap of faith. They're still together. I saw an interview that was kind of cracking me up.

It was like, they're just trying to find out how their lives, like, work together. And he's like, yeah, you know, like, I used to. I used to golf a lot. I don't really do that as much anymore. Like it's like they don't live together though. So we can talk about the reunion. They all get together. You see the couples Colleen and Matt are still together.

And Alexa and Brennan are good. But Colleen and Matt haven't moved in together yet. So like they're married, but they still have their own places, which honestly feels like for them the right decision. Like that feels like, yes, they got married because it was like, yeah, we're getting married on TV. Like, let's do it. But I feel like when the cameras. ended it was like okay we are married but we can date a little bit too now you know that doesn't make sense no it doesn't make sense like you guys are married there's nothing logical about it but like

collie said he was like we're doing we got married in an unorthodox way and now we're living life in unorthodox way so divorce isn't like the easiest thing in the world like yes you can just get divorce but like yeah exactly it also does take a little bit so if it's working for them then I guess it works But yeah Everything is good with Lexon Brennan S.K. And Raven are dating

which was a relief I loved their little moment where they got together and kissed and I felt not confident in that but it felt like there was actually really good true feelings there

and both of them were very sincere and logical and you know they're doing the long distance thing and it's working for them. I enjoy them as a couple and I also enjoy Raven not really falling. We're wearing the same earrings today. Yeah, I was going to say it before and I stopped myself.

Yeah. I enjoy Raven kind of like setting that boundary with Bartis. Yeah. Where she wasn't going to let that happen. Right. She talked about the pool party. She really liked SK and that was it. She said, I love SK and I wasn't, you know, you're not going to cross that boundary

in which I really respect from her. And I think she held her own because, you know, Barty, oh, look at us. together. No. Look at, we'll get raven. Yeah, and you saw what happened when they brought at the pool party, like, between Colleen and Cole and the conversations that they had there. And obviously, Colleen seems much more remorseful,

I think, and she's made it work. But the bigger drama was between these single people, right? Like, Bartis, Alexa, I love Alexa. She's got no time. She's got no time for Bartis and she's got no time for Cole. Like, she was like,

I, you know, she basically And it's got to be hard being on the other side of that when you're friends with these women and you know so much that happened that wasn't on camera. And you're like, God, I just want to lay you out. But like, we're going to bring up all this stuff. So, because she just kept kind of saying, like, I just know a lot. And I just don't like the way that you did things. And apparently Bartis was like on a boat party or something with a blonde, like right after the wedding. So that didn't sit well with everybody.

obviously, I think Bartis, like, I'm sure, immediately jump back into the dating pool and all these things. And he was like, I don't want to be talking about my sex life. I don't want to be talking about it. Nobody's talking about her sex life. It was just timing. Like, they were like, well, if you were really upset about it, you probably wouldn't have been out partying. But then she was like, I guess he's like, don't judge me for people cope differently. It's like, okay. Sure. He really thinks he's like the most mature, I should call a motherfucker. I stop myself. Yeah.

But then I did anyway. You know, so Nancy's brother was like, he's a boy. Like, it's like, yeah. Yeah, he's really just, he thinks he's like, he knows everything. Yeah, exactly. You know, but he doesn't. And, um, they brought up some upsetting things about Cole, too, that, you know, talking about their relationship and that he was critical of what she ate and how, like, you know,

like what her body look like and all these things that I think she was really laser-focused. on that made her feel insecure. They referenced this scene. Not seen. It was their life. They referenced this moment where they were going out to dinner and she like went to have two little like tangerines. And he said she had said he was like, oh, we're like, are you really going to eat that

right now? Like we're going on dinner and ruin your appetite or whatever. And he clearly remembered it differently. But then at the end of the reunion, they played the footage. they had of that conversation. And yes, he does say those words. I think Cole is very careless with his words. I think he just doesn't think before he talks a lot.

And I think Zay got very laser focused on certain things because from the beginning, he never made her feel confident about her appearance. Yeah. So, like, I think she was so, like, she really picked apart his words of what he was saying. Like, I think he's, like, not, I'm not saying he's stupid, but I'm just saying, like, I think he didn't think a lot of things through all the way. Like, I don't think a lot of the things had extreme malice. I think he just let things fly.

And then he didn't think back to things he said previously. So, like, when he, when she watched or she saw him say, like, you know, I thought Colleen's more attractive or Colleen's a 10, you're a nine. For Zay, like to be like, well, what are the differences between us? She's probably looking at Colleen's body and thinking like these are the differences. So I think that really, really affected her, which is so, so sad. And I don't think he knew it affected it. Yeah.

I also think he probably said, like, oh, you're really going to eat that before we go out, not thinking that she took that as like, oh, you're really going to eat that. Your body doesn't look great. You should watch what you should be eating because when you're an insecure person, you're thinking that somebody else is meaning those words in a different way than he could have been meeting it. But he never gave her the confidence he should have a partner. Right.

And he also did say things to not make her feel confident in herself. So then that would be she'd probably take everything after that as an insult or something like that. I think they were not compatible at all. And I'm really happy they didn't go through it. And I'm really happy Bartis and Nancy didn't go through it. No, I know. And Cole had kind of a little bit of a breakdown towards the end.

Like he really started crying. And it's good to see him hopefully realize, you know, the mistake. mistakes he made and and learn from them. Zay was very, she was like, look, I forgave you right then. Like, I don't think you're a bad man. I think you like did, I think you, I don't like the actions. Some of the things you did towards me in our relationship, but I don't think you're a bad person.

So hopefully he learned a lot from this experience and takes it to his next relationship. And Zay is awesome and deserves a guy that I think loves her for, everything that she has. And at the end of the day, those two were just so, regardless of the pods, like, they were just so not compatible. No. Like, so not compatible in the real world at all. When people are only like, like, like, I, like, Zay was like, and I'm going to say a

prayer because that's what me and Cole really bonded over. It's like, okay, just because you guys, you know. That's nice. It's nice. Yeah. And just, but just because you guys have the same faith. Yeah. does not mean that you guys

belong together. You know what I mean? Totally different lifestyles and I just think that like they were so not meant to be and I do think they had you know that they did have love for each other but it was just that was so not going to work so it was the right move there and like I said I think Cole

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That's rocketmoney.com slash chicks. All right, everyone, we are here with two very special guests. We are joined by Joe Gorga and Frank Katania. We are so happy to have you guys here. I'm already feeling like this is going to be a riot. Oh, it's going to be. I had her morning. He came in and he started looking you up and down.

Stop looking at him. He's checking you out. He undressed you with his eyes. Yeah. I felt going to get Frank in trouble. He's just trying to deflect. That's all he does is deflect. No, that's what he did.

And I'm going to tell your girlfriend. I'm going to tell him now. Can you imagine if I told Melissa? That's what I had to tell you. Melissa, oh my God, I can't believe the way she looked at them. She'd be here. She'd be here. And you know what?

Don't do that because Melissa likes us and we like Melissa. They already know Melissa. We already. We're happy to be here. Let's put it down. We're excited. Good. Well, we're excited too.

We're happy to have you guys. You have a very funny dynamic, the two of you, too. together. Yes. It's, we've watched it on Real House of New Jersey, we've watched it on the internet.

But I don't know if you guys, like, there wasn't that much, I feel like, backstory on the show of when you two actually met for the first time. I'll tell you the story.

Oh my God, that goes way back. That's what I'm saying. I want to know, like, was it in the 90s? Was it, like, how far back are we going? I was in high school.

I was in high school and I was like the cool kid in high school. Like, I was an athlete. I was a football. star, a wrestling star, you know, and all the women liked me. And he was just a nerd.

He was a nerd. And now he looks like your security artist. Yeah, yeah, right. That's right. So this is, I'm getting to the story. So he was just like this guy, he was like a loser. And he just, and I fell sorry from him.

So I grabbed him and I pulled him aside. That's exactly. You can hang on me because I have a good heart. I really do. So, you know, everybody. Were you guys in high school at the same time? No, he's looking at me. He's like 98.

I'm probably, what am I? 15 years older than you? Yeah, you're old. You're old, man. No, this guy's been, you know, he just got a colonoscopy the other day. Hey, hey, I got to know those are good. Those are good. And I'm 25.

As you should. You should. I was having some problems. They found nothing wrong. You're exactly right. But you're having a problem. He's just old. Joe's afraid to go.

You know why? Not because he's afraid of getting a colonoscopy. Joe's afraid that you're going to enjoy it too much. Okay? All right? Hey, you never know, though. Hey, who cares? Why do I need a colonoscopy?

I'll give one myself. Anyone touches me down there? I don't know. I get excited. So it doesn't matter one way. Okay. So you're in high school and you met Frank. Yes, I met Frank.

No, how we really met, Frank was... Frank was the man at the time. Yeah. I controlled all the foreclosures. And Joe was trying to get into the foreclosure field. Okay. And honestly, he came to me. And for whatever reason I tried.

Before that. Yes, we did. We had met because... He's trying to just give him a little, like, clow. Yeah. No, not like him. But if you want to know how we met, we met through just the neighborhoods.

Yes. He grew up in North Haldon. I grew up in Patterson, Hard Knox. He was like, you know, a little white boy in North Hilden. And I came around. And we just really hooked up on the streets. We're through friends. On the streets.

You know how you met at parties. Two Italian guys on the streets. That's how we met through. But I was in high school. He was not. He would just be coming a warrior. Correct. I think, yes.

Yeah, he was an attorney. And then I got right into business, and by the time I was 19, I started flipping homes. Yes, he did. And he was a big-time attorney at the time, and he had the biggest foreclosure connection at the time. So anything you needed, I would call him up. I said, Frank, I need a couple houses.

He's like, okay, that's how many houses he had. He controlled the market. He was the man. I have to give it to me some props. I'm going to give you some props. We got that on tape, right? You are. You are.

There, there. There and there. All right, good. And he wouldn't sell to anyone. He had a very small group. So if I call him, Frank, I need three houses. Okay, here. Where do you want him?

I want to hear. Go look at him. And I go look at it. I'm going to buy him. And I made money because, you know, he helped me out. Thank you, Frank. That's why I love him. But we have this amazing relationship.

We never argued. I was going to ask that. We've been in business. We've had some issues in business, but we never fought. We never fought. He was my attorney for a very long time. But we were also friends. and that's why what you see is real.

And even if he did something to me, today, I would never get mad at him. Never. And he wouldn't even, I can't even say that because you would never even do anything and I could never even do anything, but we would never even look at each other. I won't even name a scenario.

Right. We can't even name it because that's an amazing friendship right there. And I mean that. And that's why we vibe the way we do. We do. And it was just all natural. And what you see on the show is natural. That's beautiful.

None of it's scripted. We do have a good time. And I think especially with New Jersey, though, it is that way that it's so unscripted. I think I've always felt that way. New Jersey was the first one I've ever watched. I think with the other franchises a little bit can feel not scripted, but it's contrived. And they close themselves off a little bit, whereas New Jersey, you're just getting everything. Like you guys.

They try a little too hard. Yeah. You guys don't care. Everyone's just letting it out there. Because I also feel like you can get over things a little bit quicker when you do just let it all out there as well. Certain people. Right. Certain people.

Correct. I mean, with the guys, the guys are just the guys. I mean, we're, we, we deal with the women drama, but then we don't really get mad at each other. We're just cool and we just move on and we have a good time. And we are the same. When the cameras are off, it's the same vibe. How often are you guys hanging out off camera? Oh, we hang out.

We probably hang out the most. It was Joe Beningo too. And Beningo. Joe Beningo. Markman says. Yeah. We were the most. Yeah.

We definitely a couple times a week. I have to say it or I have to talk to him. Same thing with Joe, you know? If he doesn't hear from me, he goes, are you okay? Yeah, yeah. I'm getting him out of trouble some way or another. I really, I mean, and he'll laugh about it. You know, it's like my third time.

Remember, he was my attorney. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was crazy. I was younger. I was just a little wild. Yes, he was. But now I'm good. I'm tamed.

I'm kind of. What's one of the biggest things or something that you got him out of trouble with? Oh. That you can say. Oh, I'm going to tell you. We were on trial one time. I'm representing Joe. He's on trial.

We're up in court, and we're in the middle of a trial. We take a recess. I'm his attorney at this time. I'm all dressed up nicely. I got my suit. I'll go in the back room. And I knew the defendant in the case from previously. So I knew what this guy could do.

And he was just getting under Joe's skin. And now we're in the back room, private room like this. Re-stretched him. They're going to go, boom. Punches a hole in the wall. And in the courthouse. Oh my gosh. I said,

what the fuck? How are we supposed to defend you? A Hulk smash moment. Oh my God. It's like a miniature hole. Yeah. Well, he's in green today. Right.

So I'm like, what do we? Seriously, bro? I said, the officer had to hear us. Yeah. So I took a bookcase and we put the bookcase in front of the hall. Genius. And that was it. Then we left.

That's one of the time. And how was that case solved? It got a. We won. Yeah. It took a little while. It took a while, but we won. We're happy for you guys.

It was a tough one. Guy was a shady, shady guy. Yes, he was. He was very shady. Shady motherfucker. Yeah. Shuts when you're good and somebody's shady and then you get mad. You get angry, you know.

That's one thing about. Listen, Joe is probably the most publicly known of all of us here, all right? The guys on the show. And the thing, you do anything. Whatever you do, God forbid it's, like, slightly wrong or even out of the to ordinary, it's exacerbated. It's like 10 times.

Yeah. It's always 10 times. Well, can we talk about some of the stories at BravoCon then? Oh, yeah. Wasn't that a good transition? Yeah.

I helped you out with that. You did. That was a layup right there. You, um, there was one headline where you were referred to as unhinged. Unhinged. Unhinged. Which I said was, which one. Which I said was like you.

You know what I mean? Like, it's okay. It was just like I, and you know, I saw some clips and we could watch. We weren't there, but we saw some very. I'm like, that's, I was like, that's just Joe's passionate. Like, I don't, I felt like unhinged was kind of a wild word. Because I also think unhinged is always bad in people's eyes where it's like some people are just a little unhinged and maybe it's in a funny way or a passionate way or, but when you just hear unhinged, it's like, ooh, bad news. Yeah, but it wasn't, I wasn't unhinged in any which way.

I don't know the incident they were talking about. I just listen, I wear my heart on my sleeve. Very passionate. And I'm passionate and I'm real. I feel you. And I just talk. And when I want to, I don't talk a lot. I really know.

I hold a lot of things in. But when I do talk, you have to laugh at. He doesn't. No, but I don't. Joe, Joe, not only, we're all laughing at that one. I just talk on a comedy stage now. That's why I like to do comedy. I like to talk.

And I let it out on stage. You don't mean that you talk about, like, people's drama or whatever. Yeah, I never talk. I don't get people's business. Come on. I love the noise. There's so much bullshit. I can fish.

I keep fishing. for him to say it. Because it's funnier every time. I only talk about it because if I'm on working on a show four times a day, I only talk about it. He's like, I only talk about it when people ask me. He's like, I give him an answer.

All the time. No, no. You know how much people, you know what times I'm talked about for no reason? So I just sit there, I walk away a thousand times. So that one time I speak, then like, oh my God, it's what he said? Yeah, well, what the fuck? I've been holding that shit in

for how long? Yeah. You know? Was Bravo Khan a positive experience for you guys? Did you have fun or was it a lot? I absolutely did. I mean, I agree. Joe works hard.

All right. They worked their thing. I got to be honest with you. They worked this hard. We thought we were going to go and have some fun. No, they had to be not in a lot of morning. The schedules were like, holy crap, that's the same. 11 o'clock at night.

We're getting back to a hotel. And you're worn out. You really are worn out. Overall, I thought it was a great experience. I love it. I love interacting with fans. I love it. Yeah, it was awesome.

I mean, I was on the phone with a main producer yesterday because we're doing some show together coming up next week for Bravo. And they were like, listen, we're getting all these great things about you at BravoCon. You were amazing with the fans and how you just jumped in. I was just jumping in crowds. Yeah. It wasn't my appearance. But I just was.

But he doesn't talk a lot. No, what happened was, no, we missed one of our pictures. me and Melissa, we missed our appearance. Oh, you're a miss. Okay. They brought us in late. We were held up at another event. So people were waiting online for two and a half hours. Yeah.

We were there for 10 minutes. We had to get pulled to another event. They're on stage. So I felt like there was four or 500 people waiting online. Yeah. I felt like shit. Yeah. I felt terrible.

So then after that. He did. He came to me on that. He goes, oh, horrible. It wasn't his fault though because they had him over time on something else. Yeah, yeah. Yes. So now I took it to a little.

another level. I was just chum, I was just walking through curtains and open them and there was, ah, John, I run out and take a thousand pictures and just keep on doing that. Just bounce around. Because I felt bad. I didn't, you know, I don't, you know, people were there two hour wait and then they couldn't. So many people waited around like all day. It was amazing just to see people that I went to high school

with or whatever posts on their Instagram stories. And I'm like, oh, they went to Bravo Cod. Like people or everybody loved it? So many people. Fucking obsessed. 14,000 people. If you ever came from the hotel. to the venue and back and forth.

And when you got off at the venue or the hotel, you got the barricades, well, the people behind them. And that's why when I got off, and my girlfriend was with me the whole time there, she's like, my God, isn't it tiring? I stop. I go say hello to everybody. And he does it.

Joe does as well. Yeah. If they were sitting there for hours, come on, the least you could do is go over, take pictures, hug them and everything else. Yeah, yeah. You know? Where did you meet your girlfriend?

I trained her. Okay. I was trained in her for she was in the bodybuilding shows. At that time, bikini shows. And for about six years, dirty dog that's all he does He trains her

and then he gets the girl You're the teacher You don't do that Not the students I didn't I can't control her feelings desires What do you want me to do

How does she feel about You know the show and everything She loves the show She's awesome She really is She's so optimistic She's so laid back With she had thin skin

So production has been asking to get her on the show for the last couple seasons and she won't go on because she got thin skin and she didn't want to be the one that the rest of the world thinks is the reason Dolores and I are not together. Right, right, right?

Very fair because that is like everybody you watch is. Because you guys are close, everyone always want roots for you guys, yeah. There's 600 other women before her. Yeah, yeah. There was a reason. Someone did come up to her, and it's funny because someone did say to her, well, aren't you worried about what about Frank's past, all right?

And her answer, it was funny. She swore on Instagram, but she didn't take it up herself. She was basically, she was like, I was in kindergarten and Franks passed. Yeah. She was, I can really care less, all right? Yeah. But, no, she's good. So we started dating.

We've been together now for a little over three years. Yeah. All right? But she's known Dolores for 10. Yeah. And this year, she did. She came on a show a few times this year. Okay.

She's sweet. She's awesome. Yeah. She's beautiful. I was just, as we were walking up, I was like, I love Britain. You live on. I really do. continue, go ahead, and I don't understand what she's doing

with you. That's what you said. I go, poor girl, man. She doesn't even know what she's into. It's been a couple years now, though. Yes, it is. So it's working. Absolutely. And she and Dolores get along and everybody's, what's your relationship status

like with Dolores' significant other? Much better. Better? Honestly, much better. It's, you know, but he's still, Paul, he's Irish. Yeah. He's not. Flash, it's not a loving Italian. There's a lot.

It's very funny because there's so many, like, we, from where we grow up, like, there's so many Irish Catholics and so many Italian. And it's like the, so we have the friends and we see the relationships. And it is, it is funny because it's the same for the guys. Exactly right. It's so funny how, like, when you are, because we both are Italian Catholic families and, like, my parents' reactions to other people's families. or relationships or things are like how are they doing that and like not everybody's like us i don't

know i don't know how they're doing that and that's exactly the way paulie and i all i wanted him to do is give me a chance the more you're around dolores and i the more you'll see just it's it's nothing worry about yeah it takes some time it does it does he's an old school guy yeah he's still he's got old school morals but it's got much better it's got much better because now he's he's realizing that he's all show he's nothing else he's got nothing between his legs you can't perform he can't do anything I mean, he's getting to realize that Look at this guy, he's a monster, but well, you know, look, he barely can walk,

he can't even get a heart on, he's the pump He's the pump. We just haven't over this in the other room With the pump. He's got a pump. He loves to bring this up. Fact cat's got the pump on a sneaker, right? He's got the same one.

He's got the pump on a sneaker to make him taller. Yeah. Yes, that's a rike, good one. You said that he has old school morals but wouldn't you say you have old school morals? I have I've had, I'm old school

but I'm so modern. I'm so different now. I am. I mean, I've changed. I mean, you know, it's a different world now. And my girlfriend's got a boyfriend. I'm like, all right, come on. I'm like, oh, bring him in. Come on the couch, come on. Come on. Your girlfriend's got a boyfriend? I mean, my daughter. My daughter. I was like, wow,

you look like, I'm confused. He really has changed his Morals. I started talking about my daughter and her listen. She'll be going to do something. I start talking about my daughter or boyfriend. I'm all fucked up. No, but I'm different.

I'm cool. I'm different now. I do have old school morals. And that's what makes, I love my old school morals because that's what makes me so good and genuine and lovable. I mean, how was meeting your daughter's boyfriend? Was he scared to you?

Yeah, they're all scared of me. Let me tell you a little story. I'll tell you real quick little story. There you go. Yeah, yeah. Okay, this is the type of guy I am. Right. So we're, I'm home. I'm sitting on the couch and I see lights. Red lights through the windows. A car going slow. And I hear the dog. So I get up off the couch and I look. And there was just no street lights in my neighborhood dark. So I'm looking. I can't see anything. And I see something too. Like a flash. If I go back down, I sit back on the couch. Same thing. I see the red lights come by again through the window.

And the dog's going crazy. Roos, because the dog, I have this Pomeranian. They hear every day. They're yappy. Yeah, back in the day, the Chinese, small dogs. When they had the war, they used to have the Pomeranians. They could hear the troops coming. So, Starr barks, I get up, and I look out the window again,

and I see the car all the way in the corner hiding with the lights on. And I see people running. I run right to the closet, because each closet has a baseball bat. in every corner of my house, everywhere. Grab the bat and I take this out. I come running out of the house. Let's do this, look how sick this is. I'll come running out.

And I'm thinking someone because... He's doing someone's trying to break into your house. What's happening is... Well, what's happening is... Yes, in Burton County, they're coming around. The theft is up 50%. I know. Yeah. My neighbor, they just walked into his backyard.

They're just going into... They came through the door. The door was open. I've seen it on all the ring cameras. Yes, exactly. My best friend just had her... They pulled there there in Short Hill. pulled in, they were taking out the groceries and they left the door open

and they followed them from the grocery store. They didn't realize took the car. And when they came back to get the rest of the groceries, they were like, where the fuck's the car? Yeah, it happened to me twice. And my neighbor, they went in their house. My next door neighbor they went in the house. They took, they walked into the back door.

They took the purse and he left, right? So now you're thinking all this, right? So I come out and switch out. Grab the baseball bag. I got the baseball. Now I run outside. I'm like this. Let's do this, motherfuckers.

And I'm running. I'm running. And what was it? I'm seeing somebody's running out of the bushes and running out of you. I'm chasing. I'm chasing them. And normally I run right up to the car. Normally I like pick the bat and I fling it.

And I break the back window. That's how crazy I am. I'm used to this, right? No, really. It's a trick. No, no. So I'm running. I get close to.

It sounds like something that he has done before. I grew up in Patterson. It's his move. Everybody's always stealing stuff. So I run up to the car. And I'll go to with the back next to the window and there's just a little kid with his pants.

He's got his pants completely off and he's got his butt right in my face. And then I looked to the drivers and it was a mom and it was goosey night and they were doing that. They were coming around and putting, you know, what they put pepperoni. This is what they doing in, like suburban areas.

They put pepperoni in your door and they ring the doorbell and run. Oh, yeah, yeah. They goosh you. Yeah. They put toilet paper. There's so many different words, ghosting. Ghosting, there you go.

Right. So here I am. I run up and I see this kid's ass right in front of me. Just go out of here. There's three kids. They're going on us. Oh, my God. There's a mom.

I look and I turn around and I just start walking away. And I'm laughing under my, but I'm like, oh, my God. The mom was driving the kids around to do this. So other people's house. They're 12-year-olds. I know. I know.

I saw a little kid's ass. And then a mom, I was like, a mom, was a mom hooking up with one of the kids? No, no. That's where my head went. I'm like, that's sick. No, he liked that. No, the mom was helping the 12-year-olds prank people. Yes.

There's always one mom like that. There's always one mom like that. No, the parents do it in this town. They drive them around and that's what they do. So the kid, what happened was he was ran. It's also the same mom that hooked up with the kids. He was running so fast that he had sweatpants on. They fell off them.

I don't know. They were running like crazy. They got in the car. The mom right away texts my wife, calls my wife. She goes, oh my God, your husband will kill my kids. We were just goose in his house And the kids in the background Oh my God

They're all crying They're all crying And that's why you don't goot You don't ghost famous people Yeah But they're full of mud Oh my god Because the one side of my house

Is under construction They were hiding in the mud Oh it was a disaster So then that's then your daughter's boyfriend Here's that story And it's like Yeah the whole town knows But this is

Yeah there's stories like that And they're like this guy's crazy But I'm really not crazy I mean I'm projecting my family No no my house Yeah And Antonio is how high school, late, senior? She's a senior now.

So you sit down with her boyfriend for the first time. Yeah. Nice. He's very nice. He's actually tall kid. He's like six foot four or something. He plays football, right? Place football, nice kid.

Yeah. So, you know, for me, as a dad, you look at him like, and you look at it in their eyes and you, son of a bitch, like, what are you thinking? What are you thinking? And I'm sitting there looking at him. And he's trying to tell him, Mr. Gorga, how are you? I'm good, you know, and it takes a minute because, you know, and you're like, are you touching my daughter? You want to ask, did you kiss her? Like, what do you think? You look at a right? Don't even ask those questions or think about it. You can't ask or think about those questions.

So now I'm becoming, so people are you old school? She's a senior in high school. Correct. So now I'm starting to say, okay, you want him to come, want Will to come over? He can come over. Do you let him sleep over? No, sleep over. I mean, if we go to the Shorehouse and he wants to sleep over, we'll sleep on a couch together. Yeah. Yeah.

She's a senior. I don't know. I'm just wondering. They go in a basement. Do you have a boyfriend sleepover? No. I didn't. No, I didn't.

I didn't. But they go in a basement together. Yeah, yeah. I got cameras down there, but they go down there. Do you have cameras in your basement? I do. I'm sure you. I have cameras.

Not because of that. To protect. Do you shut them off when they go down there? Honestly, I don't look at it. Okay. But just so, we have a lot of liquor there. If something happens, it's for protection. It's for us.

Yes. I remember my dad when he met my boyfriend. He, they were like, he was like, oh, let's have a drink, whatever. And he was like, you know, I'm not the type of dad to, like, scare my daughter's boyfriend. Like, I remember when my wife's mom, my wife's dad did that to me. And I was like, all right, now you're trying to sound like. almost too cool. Like, we get it,

right. Like, you don't have to scare them, but. Let's not be friends. I don't blame him. We don't know how to act. We're trying.

We're trying. It's tough. You're baby girls. I mean, we've been there. We've done it. Right? He's not, you know.

I was going to say, I don't know how do you handle it, Frank? I don't have to. Yeah. Can I tell you something? My daughter's such a badass. Yeah. She can hit herself.

She is tough. Dolores is probably the toughest chick who I've ever met. She fights like a dude. She does. I mean, the hardest, and I've been to fight, many fights in my life. The hardest I've ever got punched by, is by Dolores. And my daughter, my daughter is, my daughter has done MMA, she's done jujitsu, she's done it all.

And seriously, she's not someone I have to worry about it. I can worry more about my son. Yeah. Get his feelings hurt from these women. That's not going to worry about. He's so nice. He's a big kid. Listen, my daughter, I said to my son.

My daughter, Gab, listen, don't you ever fight? Don't you ever start a fight? But if someone starts a fight with you, you make sure that they know that they made a mistake and never come back again. And Dolores is standing there. So I said, you make sure they're down. You make sure they don't come back again.

And Dolores in the background. And you fucking stomp on her. Like she's on fire. Right? Hey. That's Dolores. You got to protect yourself. I once, oh, my dad always said to me,

like, once again, don't start a fight. But if you, if somebody ever comes out of you, you grab them by the hair and you don't stop punching. Exactly. One time I got punched in the face out of bar and I didn't do anything. Like this girl just punched me in the face.

I didn't do anything because she was a lot, you know, I was going to get fucked up by her if I did anything. I knew that. And I came home, my, like, lip was all fucked up and it was late at night. So my parents didn't see me. Next morning, they saw me and I told them what happened. My dad was like, if you fought back, you wouldn't be in trouble,

but since you didn't fight back, now you're in trouble. I was like, what? I was like, in what world? I agree. I agree. Is this happening? Like, he was like, we're going to the cop, like this whole thing. And I was like, I was like, I didn't. He was like, no, but if you would have, you clearly can't protect yourself. So now we, now you're in trouble.

Good. What? Yes. Nobody's right. Absolutely. Because she'll do it again. Yeah, it was, it was so backwards, but I was like, all right. I guess I know.

I mean, it never happened again, but I was like, I guess I know now. I just was like, when he always said that to me, I always thought he was kidding. And I was like, I guess, he was like, I wasn't kidding. And I was like, all right, noted. Got it now. He's right. Because they'll just do it again. She'll come around and punch you again for no reason.

He's right. He's right. It's like all these bullies on social media. That's what they do. Oh, please. Don't get me started. Bullies. Everybody's a bully today.

Yeah. How are you dealing with all the noise? Because there's a lot, I mean, there's been a lot of noise for you and your marriage and your family. For the last few months, I would say, now, right? Listen, they can do, for all the haters out there and all the people that do that noise, they're wasting their time. Because at the end of the day, I know who I am. I know who my wife is.

I know what my kids are. It doesn't bother. It goes in one air and out the other. You know, so they're just wasting. They're sitting there. Okay, what are you doing? You know, just keep doing it. I actually like it because they're going to sit there and they'll put out like 50 messages.

Okay. I mean, you know I've never ever put one bad message about anyone? I've never commented. You did. Because he was on the show long, long before I was. And you get these text messages for no reason. They got haters. Right, right.

And don't engage. I engaged. Yeah, yeah. Absolutely not. Last time I ever engaged. Listen, I never responded. You realize it was, it probably helped you, right? Like when you engaged, you got even more mad because they come back with something.

Whereas if you just ignore it totally, it's just, I'm sure that's so hard, though, like, especially if you hear stories about your kids, your marriage, all these things. You want to, like, put stuff out. Like, I'm sure Melissa feels the same way, too. You want to, like, say, well, this is really what's going on. Yes. Right. And you want to say something. Sometimes you're like, oh, well, and if they keep going with it, but there's lies.

There's lies. There's lies everywhere. Yeah. And it's just got to just have thick skin. Yeah. And especially in this business, if you don't, don't eat you a lot. It's also so easy for people to make stuff up. I mean, we see it all the time.

I've seen stuff made up about us before something. And you're just like, and you want to, but then you're like, like you said, you can't talk about everything. You just have to know with your people in your life that you guys are good. And as long as that's fine, then, like. Like who really care? Because at the end of the day, those people are thinking about you for like a second of their life

and then continuing their own lives as well, whereas then you think about that comment way longer. You're exactly right. But it also comes from someone who's got no followers. No pictures, no followers. Yeah, right. You know? I call them a keyboard. They hide.

Yeah. You hide. And there's a lot of people, you'd be shocked that you know them and they're just secreted doing it. And people that we work with. There was a, I'm watching Salt Lake City, Real Housewives of Salt Lake City is on right now.

now. And one of the, she's not a full-time housewife, but she's a friend and she's a friend with all the, all the women. And she was fighting with some of the other housewives. And her husband made an account and like was, had commented about, and they found out. Did they really? And he like owned up to it. He was like, I made this account. And I, you know, I wrote this message to defend my wife. And it was the wrong thing to do. But it was like, that was crazy for them. Because they're like, you think you don't know these people you always say like oh these people they don't know me and they were like we we are out with you all the time oh my god yeah it's crazy on our show and there's a that's happening on our show 100% I just don't take the time yeah to investigate and I don't care

we know we we we know who are doing it we know they and they're you know they're trying to put bad messages and trying to antagonize but little they know I barely read it I don't and if I really Salt Lake City they probably had the time to investigate and do what they did and they found that I really don't give a fuck. I don't. Keep trying keep doing what you're saying. They're trying

so hard. People try so hard to hurt me. Yeah. People that we work with right? And I don't know why because you know I'm the type of guy if you're doing something wrong to me or my wife I'm going to react.

I am in a good way. I'm just going to I defend my family. I defend. That's what I do. Yeah. What do you think the future of the show is going to look like? Like, you guys haven't, have you started filming a new season? No, no.

We start probably June, right? June, I don't know. Oh, so you haven't been a pretty long time. Well, you guys finished now and then we'll watch whatever this next season, when that comes out. When was the last time you filmed? You filmed? I know.

A little couple of weeks. Few months. Yeah. Yeah. So you probably have, you have a decent amount of time until the next stuff goes, but everything from what we know

ended a little tumultrously. So it's like, how do you know when, how do you pick up and keep going? Well, I don't know. We'll see. I mean,

you know. This reunion is going to be very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right.

Oh, right. Because, of course, you haven't even filmed those things yet. Yeah. Yeah. The reunion? What?

You normally film a reunion? What? Halfway through a season? More than that? Towards the end? Three quarters. The end. The end.

The end. So that'll be coming up in a few months too. And then you know what sucks is when you work with people that are dirty and they lie? That's what sucks. I mean, listen,

at the end of the day, we're on a TV show. It's a reality show. I mean, all right. You want to, while we're filming, if you want to throw a dig so you can have a little drama,

okay. It's what happens after the show. Right. The dig in, the mind, the box. But she used to be happening a lot happening a lot more these days. It feels like a lot of

stuff off camera and then they don't know how to bring it on camera and the viewers confused because you're like, wait, what happens? Yeah, and the ones that, and I, there's a classy guy right here and, you know, we're good people. We just, we do this. We work. We do our show and we go home. We're done.

Go home to our family. Like my wife, she's awesome because same thing. She does. She works. She films. Yeah. But there's people that live and die and shit and they forget about their family and they just dig and dig and try and try and let's write and let's write and let's get.

a group together and let's let's, you know, they're like bots, you know, let's comment, come on, come on, and they'll try to meet this person, try to meet that person. They're sad. Fucking sad. Go get happy, man. Go have sex with your partner. Go do something. You know what I mean? But it's disgusting.

You kind of get caught in this element. Yeah, I think we see that with a lot of people. I think we saw it with Lisa Renna this season on Beverly Hills as well, where I think Andy even insinuate her like, what are you doing on social media? Like, I think, you know, you just get wrapped up. Like you said, they get wrapped up. in this life and forget that there is a life

actually out of this reality show even though it's a reality show there's also real life that has no cameras that's right that's why I get up the public sees yeah exactly I'm sure you saw Lisa Lisa I booed on stage yeah yeah everybody the problem is the fans they believe what they hear yes everything

it's sad don't believe everything you hear right you know so I exit right out I get up at 5 o'clock in the morning I continue to build my real estate my development buildings. I got on TV, you know, it's my 13th year. I don't stop.

Five o'clock in the morning, I'm up, I'm still doing. Where do you come up with your motivational quotes for Instagram? Oh, it's just, everybody asks for that. My heads, my, yeah, I have, you know, believe it or not,

there's a lot of Italian quotes. If you're Italian, it's said in a different way. And my father, my father was the one that really had all these sayings and, you know, he told me an Italian.

And they're kind of like, If you twist them in English, they're a little different, and that's where I live by. A lot of quotes, and stuff that I like and whatever. And if Frank pisses me off that day and he does some shit, I just put it out on it. I'm like,

don't be a friend or whatever hell I say. Put it up there. And then he'll call me up. Are you mad at me? I'm like, yeah, bitch, yeah. Yeah. You shouldn't have done that. I'm just happy that's a shirt on these days.

Normally you get to quote. With the shirt off. Exactly. You know, we're getting into wintertime. Exactly. You're your sweaters and you're not as many boat picks, but continuing with all that noise, you know, there's a video that I think we saw or that was behind the scenes of like somebody, perhaps Jennifer throwing a drink or getting into a little. You guys were at the hotel. Yeah.

What the heck happened there. Well, you know, what happened was everything that you heard is a lie. Okay. You know, honestly. That's where the unhinged title came from. Correct. So, I mean, and what's crazy is there was a video. Yeah.

And whatever you heard Jennifer's assistant say, it was all lies. And, you know, what happened was she threw a drink. Right. And what was it? Tom. Tom, Melissa's assistant, our assistant. I think we've met Tom. Tom.

Yeah, you met Tom. Yeah, he's been in here before. Innocent. He's never been in an altercation all his life. Yeah. You know what? I think he said to her, he said, that's why your furniture sucks,

or it was ugly or something like that. But, I mean, Frank was there. I mean, she, she sat there and, and this is what we were saying before. It's all the lies that people hear and how people want to hurt you. I think she tried to say also that it was like, it was like, oh, she didn't throw a drink. It was water, but it's like, it's still a drink.

You're still throwing liquid in a glass. Correct. Or it wasn't glass, I think she tried to say too. Right. And her sister got on there and she was vulnerable and she was by herself and she was all this. And she threw a drink and the stories out there that she'd do a drink on me. And I was saying these vulgar things to her. No.

First of all, I was 50 feet away with my wife. Frank Catan was there. He'll answer. I'll tell my story first. I was 50 feet away. You know, Jennifer likes to dig a lot and she gets involved in my family business, you know. And then Melissa did say something to her like when she was walking by, hey, whatever. it would have been nice

if who cares it and Jennifer would have went back out of it you know shut up you know a little housewife thing and they just whatever whatever whatever keep walking all right I'm walking

screw you screw you and she got in her elevator she went upstairs but Jennifer is not like that as you can see right she if you watched her on the TV show right

do the years she drinks a lot she's violent she throws things she breaks glasses she wants to stab you with it she throws nine I mean, this is who she is. She's crazy.

Picture her in real life. That's edited. Right? So she was in the thing. She was flipping out. I yelled some stuff because I'm like, ah, shut up or whatever. Because she was just out of her mind crazy.

So the drink was never thrown at me because I was 50, 60 feet away on the other side of the hotel. She threw a drink at Tom because she was out of control. Like to the point where you had it. It was embarrassing, yelling from the top of her lungs like a maniac. And it's like, you know, she's out there trying to say Joe Gorgadess, Joe Gorgadette, this, this. It's almost like she's trying to cancel me, right? She's trying so hard.

And her and her bots and they're putting out all these messages. And what's sad is, I forgot my point. Yeah, what's sad is, you know, her assistant goes out and they say, oh, this thing, she doesn't drink. She's not drink. She was drinking water. No, no, she gets oblivied. She drinks a lot.

And it's just, and Frank, you were there. You can clarify. He was the one after you. Tell him, tell him, Frank. Back me up. I mean, I don't want to, I wasn't, I got to be honest,

up until coming back to the hotel, I wasn't with Joe Melissa, and I wasn't with Jennifer. I was outside, like I said before, I loved talking to the fans, so I'm going up and down, talking to the fans. I walk inside,

I just hear screaming. I'm like, what the fuck's going on? Then I hear Jennifer over to my left, and I see Joe and Melissa over to my right, and I see Tom, the assistant closer, and I see some kind of an altercation. I hear screaming and yelling. Joe is never there close to Jennifer. I'm used to this. I can be honest with you guys, I'm used to this.

Now, security is standing. There's three security guards between Jennifer and everybody else. And I'm trying to get through to Jennifer, and they're not letting me through. That guy's doing me a favor. I'm used to this. Yeah, yeah. So you get to Jennifer, you know, and Jennifer, she was hot.

She was hot, and, you know, they yell them back and forth, and listen, Jen, get in the elevator. Just getting an elevator. You know, finally, after a little prodding, got her in the elevator, you know, and tried to defuse the situation. Try to defuse the situation, all right?

They would never, thank God, there was never close contact between any of them, all right? Well, if there was, Jennifer, we throw in hands, because that's who she is. She can, you know, she's a mother of five children. She condones violence. And, you know, now she's going to take this.

No, she really is. It's sad. And she'll take this and she'll go crazy with this. She'll be like, oh, Joe Gorga, you know. And it's really like, it's sad. And, you know, and then you're out there. Do you think she does a lot of it because she feels like she has to, like, that there's, like, teams between people? Well, they, she's definitely on her team.

That's what they think. It's a team. And I don't know who created teams, but there's teams. It's sad because that's my sister. Yeah. Am I upset? 100% that's my sister. Don't get involved with the family.

It's almost like she tags in it. She grows on it that we fight. Right. Because helps her storyline. She's with Teresa. I mean, it's sad. So I'm a little angry at that. That's my sister.

If any good friend, listen to me very clearly, any good friend will tell you, stop. What are you doing? That's your brother. Let's go. Be together. Right, right.

Not fuel the fire. Yeah. That's terrible, man. You think I'm not angry about that? You don't think my wife's not angry about that? This is a family. That's my only sister. But she fuels it.

She's like, she's light in the match. And, you know, but she wants to sit there. I was vulnerable. We, you know, we did. No, come on. She's a tough girl, man. She'll swing. She'll do whatever she wants.

And that's where people get confused with the real life and the reality show. And this is actually your family, not just a friend. It's, you know, that's blood. It makes this show, like we said, it's why this show's so different from all the other ones because there is such a actual element of real life. It's not, you can't, a lot of people, like, they can film their show, they can go home,

they can never see these people again if something were to happen. But like, you don't want that to be the case. No, no. So that is, it's crazy. But yeah, that really did blow up. Oh, yeah, it blew up. And then it blew up after on social media. Yeah.

She sits there with like 10, 15, 20 different bots accounts and they just deliver, delivered, delivering. And it's all they're saying, all this stuff. And we're wasting their time. Go out and live your life, man. You're wasting your time. You know? And the people that do believe things, okay, bye.

I mean, what am I going to say? Bye. I don't want you anyway. Know who I am. Believe in me. I've been here in your face for 12 years. You're telling me I haven't screwed up in 12 years. Right? I've been on, you got to, if you were a bad person or you've done things, it comes out.

You can only last so long. You get weeded out pretty fast. In the public eye, especially on these shows. Thank you. Sure. That's right. But even in normal life, you cannot. You can't hide for that long. You can't hide. It comes out to your normal nature. Yeah. But when you're provoked, you're always provoked. And it's not just that moment. It's, you know, you're at BravoCon and you're hearing that she's talking. She's constantly. Gorgas to this about my wife, about my wife and, you know, and with my sister and digging, digging. Yeah, that's, that's personal to me. That's my sister. Yeah.

The end of the day, I love her to death. You know, I want to make peace, you know. It hurt me not going to the wedding and all. But for her, Jennifer's like, hey, yes, this is what I live for. Come on, Trisa. Yeah. Your brother, he's a bitch boy. All right.

Yeah. Okay, all right. Well, who cares? Yeah. It's sad. If you think, just look at what, watch what I have to deal with. Yeah. Right?

It's pressure. The pressure is, maybe one day I do snap. Because how can you hold it in as much as you possibly? People just attacking you. You're like a dartboard out there. It's easy to say, like, just ignore her and then focus on your family, but you almost just can't. I would ignore if she wasn't involved with my family. Right.

Yeah. I could ignore her. She's just like everyone else on the internet. That's a loser. Honestly. I just ignore her. But sometimes it takes it to the next level. You have a brother, I have sisters, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of us. He does. I mean, and you have an instigator in the middle. Sad. You would be like, what are you doing? Yeah. You know, my friends, my friends are there, hey, that's your sister.

Like, family's family. Try to work it out all the time. All the time. He's like, just work it out. Right. Well, you've always seen Dolores have that opinion on the show, too. for all the years she's been friends with both. She says the same thing too.

She always brings it back. Like, you guys are family. It was horrible. I can't tell you something. We went to the wedding and the wedding was beautiful. Don't get me wrong. It was beautiful. The fact that Joe wasn't there

and to put aside all the other rumors, Joe never asked me not to go to the wedding. Yeah, you never asked me. I told him I was going to the wedding, didn't have a problem with it. In fact, didn't even ask me about it afterwards, you know, didn't want to talk about it. But to see her walk down the aisle without him,

by her side. Yeah. And it pulls on your heart a little bit. Because you're not going to get it back. Yeah. You're not. You can't relive it. It is very emotional.

It is. I remember we were emotional, but as a complete outside of us, we were, you know, emotional about it too. Think about what you're an outsider. Imagine me, right? Now we're on a national scale. We're on a TV show, right? Then you have an instigator that's always there, you know, making it worse. Honestly, right?

And now, and tell me, can you. I hold my cool once in a while I can scream and yell right I gotta let it out somehow yeah right to think about that no no he doesn't talk a lot no no oh bullshit they does let it lose I mean but even during the season on TV

you know Joe's you know it gets boiling to a point like the one time your brother-in-law Joe Jude I speak you up remember that no I don't yeah yeah beat Joe we actually just talked about this that is so I can't believe you just brought that up I can't believe you just brought that up that is so

All right, so we're spoiling a little bit for our episode on Monday. We do a trivia game every Monday where we have fans of the show and we play against them and one of the... It's about pop culture trivia. Yeah, pop culture trivia. And one of the questions today was what did Joe call Teresa

that caused the infamous Joe on Joe Brown? And they were like both of us were like, God, we can't remember. We're like, we can't remember. You guys got to play that game? Yeah, I mean, it's not Bravo trivia. No, no, it's not all around. It's like we've never had a, we've never, like it's Bravo, it's Disney, it's celebrities.

It's a whole mixture. It's a whole mixture. Somebody submitted that question. We were like, we didn't even remember that. But it's just funny that that is. You said that. No, but Joe, Joe even jokes about it. Joe put the light on it.

It happened. It's overweight and he tries to make better. And Joe jokes about it. I mean, that was my first day of filming. Yeah, that was, it was season five. It was a long time ago. But everybody thinks like you go on a reality show. I don't even really remember that that clearly.

But I guess. No, everybody's like, you know, you know, this reality show is ruining your family. No, no. I went on a show to fix our family. And you know what? We got fixed. We were good.

Yeah, you were. There are so many family problems that don't happen on reality shows. Correct. But what's good about the show, they make us get together and talk. Right, right, right. You need this scene. You guys sit down and talk to your sister. Okay.

And at the end of the day, like one of you was going to be on reality TV. Like, it wasn't like the whole family was going to step not be step away from reality TV. It was like somebody was always going to be involved with the show. Right. And even if I was the first one involved, I would bring my sister on 100%. I would. I don't care.

Because let's all do it together. That is true that you guys are forced to face each other, whereas maybe if there was anything, you guys would just go without talking and never address anything. We would probably never talk. That's Italian families. Yeah. You would probably never talk because it's like, you know,

but really. But at least on the show, at least let us talk. Let's air it out. And then we were going. good. But then now another person got in the next. There's somebody else in bond that kind of like we're in the family. But I'm not going to talk about the season. You guys are going to, let me tell you,

the season coming up, you're going to like it. Yeah, well, we'll definitely be watching and we hope that, you know, you guys maybe do have some forced moments where you have to talk it out. And it ends in a positive way. Hopefully. Hopefully. We'll see. What's your guys show like? Because you did the show together at Caroline's.

That was fun. That was awesome. Honestly, that was a good, I've never been a comedian before, nor have I ever intended to be a comedian, except I woke up one morning and saw on Instagram, Joe Gorgia at Caroline's. Fucked up?

No, they said, a guest star, Frank Catania. It's so true. You're so true. You kidding me? I call him. Joe, Joe, did the mistake here? No, no, bro.

He said, what do you mean? No, no, it'll be fun. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. Go on for five minutes before me, this and that. I said, Joe, are you fucking serious? All right? Joe, how much are you getting paid for it?

No, no, it'll be fun. I said, so fun. I said, so I'm not getting paid. No, come on, we'll hang out, this and that. I said, okay. I got to be honest, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. He did, listen, he's never been on, and he went up there goes, Joe, I'm doing three to four minutes, right? He's up there for 10, 12 minutes.

Yeah, he had a blast. When you get that reaction? Yeah. Oh, he was a friendly crowd. He did. He did awesome. You really did. Oh, thank you. It was fun.

Do you remember the show you did at Carolines where you were really fucked up? Was it Carolines? No, he was. No, not Carolines. You were dead. Syracuse. No, so my parents, my family. No.

Governors. Governors. Yes. Because your family was there. My family was there. Oh, they were there? I'm going back there. I'm going to do a new, I'll give them a new show because, no, you know what I did?

It was the allergy. Yeah, we talked to your wife about it. She said she, we talked about it last time she was here. No, I was, you know what happens? When I get sick. I overdose on whatever because I don't want to be sick and I work a lot

and I was taking Sudafed and those tabs you buy zinc, zinc, Zach, I know, whatever. Yeah. Airborne, airborne. Airborne and Sudafed and I'm shooting

Sudafed try that every two hours. So now I'm feeling a little better so I get to the show and they're like, you want to have a drink? I'm like, yeah, people were coming back there. Very great people. Yeah. taking pictures.

So here I am. I'm drinking Johnny Black. One drink, two drinks. You know, me. I can drink. Two little drinks, no big deal. They're like, Joe, you're up. I remembered everything.

Until I walked on that stage. No, I walked on the stage and I went to put my drink. Look at how comedians put it in the drinks on the stool. Yep. Fell. And I don't remember anything else.

So I'm up here and I'm like, I'm up there. I'm up. I'm hot. Basically, I'm hot. Yeah, because allergy medicine does do that. We lick her on top of it. Yeah, I did have an experience.

Well, when I took, I think it was Claritin or Sudafed and I took two, I didn't know you're only supposed to take one or whatever it was, one every 24 hours or, you know, it was like Claritin or whatever. And then I drank. And it was maybe the first time I ever blacked out where I literally was puke. I just kind of puking, whatever. And I was like, what did I do differently? And I was like, oh my God, I took two things of that.

Which, yeah, so I believe you. Listen, I was up there, and I never get drunk. He'll tell you, I could drink, drink, drink. He's right. I don't get drunk. I don't know what's the matter of me, but I really don't. But then I'm not there. And I don't remember anything.

They're telling me, I'm telling him, sit down. No, hold on. The punchline's coming. Well, because everyone was like, we never heard the rest of the story. Because you kept repeating. I wasn't there. I wasn't there for that one again. Ask him what the rest of that fucking story was,

because we never heard it. I'm coming back and they, you know, that's why now they could download me. I'm going live. Yes. Friday. So this is airing, this is airing Friday. So everyone listening tonight. Yeah.

On Friday, November 11th, you can stream it live. Go to my, my, the real Joe Gorga.com. Now you can sit home on a couch with your husband, your wife, your partner, your dog, your cat, whatever, your bird, whatever you do and just watch it on TV, which is cool, you know. Very cool. Or are you home on your phone or computer and you're going to watch it. Yeah. Where are you physically going to be?

Like, where's the show? The show is in Red Bank, New Jersey, at the... Count Basie. Count Basie's theater. So I have them here. Do you plan on doing it again, another show? Also moonlighting as you're made for... I'm gonna sign me on stage.

Every time you forget something. Listen, he could say whatever he wants. He loves it. You think you'll do it again, though? Frank, Daniel. Yes, you would. You don't think so? Yes, he won.

Maybe with him, with Joe together. It's just, it's fun. As a guess. The people love you. I saw those. I saw a lot of big bravo con standing ovation. Standing ovation. Yeah.

And see, that feels good because then you can lay low and then every time you pop out, you get that reaction. Over exposure. Over exposure. Can I say something? I love that my friend gets attention and he does well.

And see, that's the type of guy I am. I'm all about sharing everything. No, I am. I'm a ragged a little bit. We're going to title this episode. The type of guy, Joe Gorgas. Oh, you're not done yet, but there's a lot more to come. I like to share.

I like to, you know, there's a lot of people in this business. They're like, no, no, it's all me. It's me, it's me, me, me, me, me, me, no. We all got a shit. You like seeing your family and friends. Yes. Everybody surround yourself with happy people. At these, these comedy shows, is everyone mostly welcoming and nice, the crowd?

Like, do you get any hecklers? I had a heckler once. And it really, you know, I've only done 12 shows. Yeah. And I had a heckler in Florida. And she wasn't being mean. She was just so drunk and she was in the front row. And she was just saying, you know, things about the show and why don't you go here?

And I was trying to focus. And it was lack of experience. She fucked me up. Yeah, yeah. Totally. That's hard to ignore. I go, what? And then she starts asking me questions,

and I start talking. It ruined my whole show. You know, but now... Now I'm good. I'll run with the heckler. You know, you almost want a heckler sometimes. Yeah. You know, you can play off of it a little bit.

But I'm so crazy in my show that I'm like aggressive and I'm trying to show the people a day in Joe Borg's life. You got to say, on stage. Guys, he's sweating. He is going at it so hard I'm not even kidding

He's sweating he's dripping wet and everything else It's entertaining It's like an act It's comedy and with an act And you know Pretty good at it One man show Yeah it's pretty good

With his special guests Thank you Exactly right exactly When he finds out he's invited From the poster No no but then enough from the post And the best is You wake up in the morning

The next time again Maybe three weeks later I see Joe Gorgia sold out. Second show Addered. We're Frank Gass's special guest Frank again. I said Joe What are you? Yeah, no, we sold out. I said Joe, maybe you just ask me or talk me?

No, it'll be fun. Am I getting paid for that one? But that's all right. No, it'll be fun. But it was fun. It was fun. I really, I do love hanging with the fans. I love it. It was good, man. We had a great time. Production all the time is grabbing us and always pulling us away. Oh, you got to go back here. And I love it just hanging out of it. Are there, did you guys meet any of the other like Bravo people who

never met before. A lot of them. A lot. New friends? Yes. Yes. Yes. That was a very strong yes from Frank and you love it. In fact me and my girlfriend just went to we're in Florida. Went out to a dinner with Alexia and her husband. Oh so nice. Great. They were good. I do love Miami. You know? It's a good show. I got to get into Miami. Yeah, it's a good one. I love Tamara from OC. I talked to that Italian kid. What was a guy?

Andrea? Andrea. Andrea, right? Yeah. From Summerhouse in winter. I go, I think you look good. I go, you think you in Italian? I had to take a picture. I'm going to say, I'm a fucking model, too. Yeah, yeah. I don't look that bad.

And I don't work hard at it. No, but he's just a model for kids clothes. Tell him. That's so funny. See how he is? See? I like it. I feed off him.

I do. No, that's all good. Good. And I feel like Melissa always has so many connections. And I see you guys on, like, double date. with people. Oh, yeah. No, we have a double date.

They don't ask me out. You don't ask me out. I'm not good enough to hang in their inner circle. Yeah. We're not good. The NYC dinner dates? No.

Do you ever see me in the pictures? You're right. You're right. He's never around that night. He's weird. He goes to bed early. They don't ask. Melissa wants to ask me.

Joe doesn't because Joe's afraid and Melissa's attracted to me. See, that's what I was going to bring up if anything could tear you guys apart. Oh, boy. He knows that, honestly, his beautiful wife can be naked in front of me, and I would not.

And that's one thing that's going wrong with this world. There are way too little men who will cross that line. That's right. His wife, I don't care of it. I don't even care of his Goumad, his ex-Gumad, his girlfriend, whatever he is. You don't touch it. There's not enough women out there.

You don't do that. Bring Britney over, let her get naked and a juice thing in my room. Let's see what happens. Not a chance. Exactly. Not a chance. I haven't seen anything in 18 years. I don't know, maybe.

I'm like, no. Hey, stop it. I'm going to yell you for Melissa. She's young. 33? 33. 33? You know.

Well, no. She's got the mind of a 50-year-old. That's why we get along so well. Yeah, because you got to be an old man. Yeah, right back to where we started. That's so much older. Trusty. Just look out crusty.

Tie it up. That's because easy. I call him Krusty. Come on, Krusty. Oh. Oh, Frank. Don't feel sorry for me. Believe me.

He's all talk. Well, you guys are very funny, and I do think that everybody watches when they watch the show. You know, you guys are asked all the time, and I feel like I always see it on, Watch It Happens Live, and they do the husbands together or whatever, that they're like, oh, God, the husbands should do their own spin-off. Like, I think you guys should do, like, a one season. Like, now they do the Real Housewives Ultimate Girls Trip thing. and I think like you should do like

they should do a house husbands like that on peacock and send the house husbands or maybe just you two like they put you they have you two do a bunch of activities together yeah oh we it would do really well

make it like a field day like they're the captains and they have to pick other house husbands and then they compete right and they compete yeah we've been asked we're we're being asked a lot

yeah oh okay people would like that a lot our eyes are open definitely you know Good. Thank you guys so much for coming in. It was our pleasure.

Tonight, you guys, on Joe's website, can stream his comedy show in Red Bank. And maybe you're in Red Bank and you're headed to the show. Maybe Frank will be a guest and you won't even know it. You'll see me out on the special. Oh, good. Last time I was there. I had to play Joe's Bodygard.

Perfect. Perfect. If you stream it tonight, every day, it's going to be on now. And it's all on your website. People are looking at. Okay, great. Yeah. Stream it somewhere and we'll be in Red Bank Friday night.

Which is tonight. Yep. Yep. Love it. All right, everyone. It was a great time. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. You guys are the best. All right, that wraps up. Today's episode of Chicks in the Office. Make sure you subscribe on YouTube. The episodes will be out earlier. We love you guys.

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