Chicks in the Office - Major Bridgerton News, Khloe K’s Ring + Demi Lovato’s New Album

Episode Date: April 5, 2021

Regé-Jean Page not returning for season 2 of Bridgerton (12:54-25:39). Khloe Kardashian flaunts giant ring (27:50-36:48). [TW] Demi Lovato releases new album Dancing with the Devil... the Art of Starting Over (37:27-49:39). Olivia Rodrigo drops new single deja vu (52:42-59:51). CITO merch > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat & our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

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Through the roof. It is packaged. It's through the roof because Francesca is officially free from COVID. She's free from the quarantine. quarantine. She's living life. She did her hair. She did her makeup. She took a shower. Once the last time she showered, who knows? We don't know. We don't want to know. We do not want to know about it. But how are you feeling? I feel great. I feel a lot better. I feel like I got a lot of my energy back, which was kind of my biggest problem. I was just like so, so tired. But my

in-house isolation 10 days has come to an end. I'm ready to go, ready to get back into the real world. I'm ready to get out of the basement. Nice. We're super excited for you, Fran. Yeah. Yeah. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. We're glad you made it through it. Thank you. Thank you. As am I. Yeah, that would have been, you know, something. Yeah, thankfully I really didn't have it. We don't want to talk too much about it. Thankfully, I really didn't have it too bad. So, yeah, that's good. That was good for sure. Yeah, I don't have much going. on for myself. I have been fine this whole time, but I'm getting my vaccine appointment today. I got an

earlier appointment somehow. It just, you know, came upon me. So there I go. Off she goes. Look, it's, I'm very happy for you. I'm excited for you. I don't want to be that person like talks about it, though. Like, I just felt like that is what's coming up for me today. I made my appointment. I was very excited about making my appointment. And I don't know. It's, it's, it's, it's, kind of, it's crazy in New York because, yes, like, you can, you can make your appointment, you can go, you figure it out. You can also, like, kind of walk into, like, a Dwayne Reed or a pharmacy and kind of be like, hey, you got any vaccines? And they're like, yeah, it's just, like, I have my friends. You get one. You get one. Yeah, I have, like, a friend of a friend who,

um, like, last week just, like walked into Rite Aid and was like, what's good with the vaccine? They were like, here you go. Wow. See, that's awesome. Like, you just get lucky like that. You're like, all, I'm going to take a shot in the dark here. I'm going to show up. Will I get it?

And then you get it? That's a great day. Boom. Yep. Definitely. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, it's exciting. I think New York, you know, a lot of the Javit Center, you can make your appointment.

That's where we will be going. That's where Noah went. Noah said it was a lovely experience. He sold it so well. He was like, he was like, if you can get it as soon as possible, just do it. Like, he really sold the at the Javitt Center. So that's where I'm going. Yep.

Today. Yep. So see how it goes. Big things. It's exciting. It's exciting for summer. It's, you know, seeing the numbers. I think the country hit like over 100 million vaccines,

at least first doses administered. So that's great. Yeah. Excited for the summer. Good things are coming up. The summer is almost here. My hair is blonde again. because you know,

God, it died again. I'm a liar because I I don't know what happened there. You know, I just, I fell into a depression and dyed my hair black. And I think that's something we all need to accept. I think we just all need to accept that that happened. Now my hair is blonde again.

I'm a ball of sunshine. That's the second time it happened though, like since I've known. No, but no, but the first time I died it, not blonde, it was just brown. Like it was a light brown. It was almost blonde. It was just like a little darker than usual. It was not that dark.

It was not black. My hair was literally black. No, no. I think like a couple years ago you died your hair black, I thought. No, no, no, no. Definitely not. This was the first time. She died it like brown.

That first time she died at dark. Right. But it was like a lightish brown. So it wasn't really anything. It was. Oh, man. It was not dark. I had a snap memory the other day, Ria.

I think it was maybe yesterday. That was like, it was like three years ago. and it was like our first time in serious recording like doing an interview at serious and your hair was so short like you were blonde but it was like

I watched it multiple times because I was like I really forgot that Ria's hair was that short at one point it was like above your shoulders my friend sent me a picture this weekend with the same haircut and was like, when was your hair this short? And I said, I do not know that person. Yeah. Please don't send me any further photos. And I know exactly which one you're talking about.

I was with Kristen Cavalieri. My hair is blonde, super short. What was I doing? And I look back at these photos that usually I'm like, oh, I'm like, that's when I was going through like the worst times. You know, when I look back and I'm like, oh, you look really cute. I thought, I mean, it's a very cute. Like, the short hair was very cute. It's just not me. It's just not me at all. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was just, it was funny. I was like, God, I forgot that her hair was ever that short. I've changed my hair so many times. Yeah. But I think we're back into good old Ria, you know, what the people know me as, what I know myself as I was looking at photos before and I was. I mean, I feel like you sneaky went, I feel like you sneaky like went blonde again because when I asked. I know, I know, but when I actually. I was like, oh, you're getting your hair done. And I was like, oh, you're getting your highlights redone because, you know, you had highlights before too as well.

And you were like, yeah. And then you sent me a picture. I was like, oh, you fucking went blonde again. Like, you didn't just like get your highlights redone. Because here's the thing. Anytime I would tell somebody I was going blonde again in my life, like not on the outside. Everybody on the outside looking in was like, you should dye your hair blonde again. My immediate circle of people never told me to die my hair blonde again.

anytime I said I wanted to dye my hair blonde again, they were like, no, no, it looks good black. It looks good brown. And I was like, okay, um, okay. I'm getting confused now. And for a while, I did like it. I was like, okay. I do like this. But then when everyone started being like, you can't, no, stop. And like yelling at me. I was like, I just need to do what I want to do and not tell anybody I'm doing it because everyone's going to stop me from doing it. I don't know why. I was blonde forever. or did nobody like me before that? So I was like, I just got to do it and not tell anybody. And that's exactly what I did. I didn't tell a single soul.

And so here I am back. And I don't care what anyone has to say about it. I feel like me again and I feel happy. So there's your message. Good. Everybody. It's funny that you're like, I was so depressed when I had black hair and that's still the podcast logo.

No, I can't even look at it. I'm like, oh my God, we got to shoot that ASAP. Like, I don't know what that. That was. I don't know what that was. I don't know what it was, but we're moving on. Maybe we can Photoshop your sunshine. Maybe we can Photoshop your new hair on your old hair. I was thinking about just posing the exact same way in my hair. And then just putting them in the same setup and wearing the same clothes I have.

That would be the easiest thing to do. It would be because then I wouldn't have to do anything. Yeah, no, I think I'm just going to do that for sure. But here's your message. Here's your sign. if you dye your hair from blonde to black, you will dye your hair blonde again. Straight up. You'll die blonde again, so don't even do it.

Don't even do it. Well, I mean, you literally dye your hair every like two months. Blonde, though, usually. No, I know. But I would say, like, the past year, like, every two months, it's been like something a little different. For sure. For sure.

But like I said, I've ascended into my final form. and yeah have you though like no this is it this are you god i swear to god everything felt right in the world yesterday when i came home and my hair was blonde it was like oh my god that year that that pandemic year we put it behind us yep okay good okay yes yeah all right let's get into the topics for today everybody's world was absolutely rocked when they found out Oh, wait. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. Hold on. I have one thing to say before we get into topics. One thing to say before we get into the topics. And I wrote it down. I wanted to remember. We said when we talked about April Fool's Day last episode, he said Tori Spelling. She put out a pregnancy announcement. April Fool's joke. There was so, there was going to be one. She came out. She put out a whole note saying that she knows April Fool's joke. And she's dealt with. infertility problems on her own and, you know, she wouldn't make light of that situation.

She claimed that it was a gotcha to the press because the press is always talking about her body and is she pregnant, is she not pregnant? So this was back at the media and it wasn't supposed to be taken that way. But, yeah, just, just there was, there was going to be one who did it. And it was, can confirm it was Tori Spelling. That's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. She'll do that to herself, but she'll now learn. Let's get into today's topics. Everyone's world was rocked because reggae John Page will not be returning to Bridgeton's season two. There's a lot of rumors and speculation that we will dive into. Chloe Kardashian is once again wearing that huge ring on her ring finger and people think her and Tristan are engaged.

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item. It has been announced that Reggie John Page from Bridgerton will not be returning for season two. This is quite disappointing to everybody. Everybody fell in love with him. Everybody loved Simon. And now our hearts were ripped out, put on the floor and stomped on much speculation around this. Was it Bridgerton who decided not to have him back because the season, the second season is not about him? It doesn't focus on Daphne and Simon. Or was it himself opting out of a season two of Bridgeton? Which one do you think it is, Fran? I think he decided this on his own

because to me it doesn't make any sense that Daphne could be a part of the second season and he couldn't. You know, like Daphne is, yes, I understand. I read the first book. I haven't read the second one yet, but the Bridgeton book series, every book is about a different Bridgeton sibling.

So we already know that season two was going to be completely about Anthony and his story and his love story and not really about Daphne or Simon at all, which was fine. But if Daphne's going to be in it and is Daphne's obviously, you know, the sister. So it's like there wasn't any moments where Daphne would be with her husband in the second season. Like they're married. They have a baby.

Like they couldn't all show up as a family for at least one episode, a cameo, anything. So to me it kind of seems like, look, they made Bridgeton season one. It was like, it was a test. Will people love this? Will people hate this? Like Regéjean page signs on for one season. He signs a contract. And in his mind, he's doing some kind of like limited series.

That's what he said. There's like quotes from him where he was like, he always felt that this was like a limited series type thing where every season would be about different people. and, you know, his character, he told the story and now it's over. But it doesn't, like, it doesn't make any sense to me that Netflix would be like, yeah, you know what? You're out. You're done.

We don't want you in this show anymore because he's so popular and he made the show so popular. And people love him so much that I would assume executives would be like, well, we got to get him to show up for something. and he's the one who decided like, no, I'm done. I don't want to do this, not even a cameo. I signed a contract for one season. I don't need to do anymore and I'm not going to do anymore. I feel like definitely Netflix would have put him in the second season because, yes, everybody loved him.

That would be, that's a no-brainer, obviously. There's so many posts being like, I'm not watching the second season now because he's not going to be in it. I feel like what happened now was that he probably saw the love for his role in Bridgeton and he also sees himself as a bigger star than that. So he probably was like, if I continue to do Bridgeton, I'm going to be locked up into the Bridgeton type cast as Simon. People aren't going to respect me as something else. And he probably has so many other movie role opportunities and TV show opportunities after Bridgeton. So he probably wants to take the offer up on

those and maybe become a movie star of some sort because I, feel like we see a lot with TV show stars, somebody who's been on a TV show for plenty seasons and then they want to go be in movies because they're like, I spent so much time playing this one character. I'm an actor. I'm an actress. I would love to play a different type of role. So I feel like we see that often and sometimes they just begin to be like typecast after that as the role they were in their TV show. And I feel like maybe to avoid that, this is indefinite, but just from why, trying to understand why he wouldn't want to be in any more seasons,

is maybe, you know, there's rumors about him being the new bond and shit like that. So maybe he's just like, listen, Bridgeton was great. The first season was great. If I'm not going to be a main character in the second season, why waste my time doing that when I can do all these movies and other roles and really expand my horizons and my resume to become a huge. star. Yeah. And for his own personal career, I understand it. Like, you know, you're looking out for number one. He, I'm sure, is trying to get these bigger roles. And yeah, the James Bond rumors have

been around and circulating around his name for a while. It's as a, as a viewer and a fan, it's obviously just very frustrating because it's like, okay, I understand you want to be a big star i get it you want to do these movies but like couldn't do fucking a couple episodes bridgetton and then go to something else so um i don't know it's frustrating and you know do do moire posted to um posts about this or they had a couple maybe maybe more than that about it these are the ones um that i saw that these are this is the rumor mill this is what people are saying that um one said chandeland and netflix wanted um rage on page to appear in a few episodes of season two, but he refused. It was his decision to leave the show completely,

not a money issue, more an ego issue. Then another one said, can confirm that Ray left Bridgeton rather than Bridgetton letting him go. They even offered him a serious salary hike, making him the highest paid actor in the season, even though Anthony is the main character this go-around, but he turned them down. They were having the rest of the cast sign new contracts with cameo options to prevent them disappearing like this down the line. So yeah, one, it makes sense to lock these characters in so that like if, you know, the story creators want them to pop up in an episode here or there, that contractually they're obligated to do that. And it's crazy that they offered him, so, you know, so they say offering him the most money

out of anyone on this show to show up for one, two, three episodes, like nothing major. But just because people loved him so much, it's obvious that Netflix saw that. So it's definitely not an, I think it's definitely a him thing. Yeah. And as a viewer, of course people are going to be upset. We got to watch Daphne without him? I know. It doesn't make any sense. Where are they going to say he is, right?

Like, oh, Daphne can be here, but he can't. Right. I still think it's going to be okay. Daphne is with Pete Davidson. Yeah, right? Imagine. Imagine something was going on behind the scenes. And that's why he doesn't want to work with her anymore.

He's like, you left me for Pete Davidson. doubt it. But I do feel like it's still going to be fine. I think now that he's not a part of it, I could see Daphne getting a lesser role just to minimize the questioning around why. She would have it anyway. Right. So I feel like, I still think it's going to be good. Listen, I, I loved Bridgeton, but I wasn't obsessed with Bridgeton like everybody else was. Yeah. So I still have hope. It's still going to be a great. Yeah. I still think it's going to be a good season, a good show. But I don't think I had the obsession with the show as a whole in general to be as upset as everyone else is. But he definitely

is a reason I was drawn into the show. So now I'm kind of like, will I be drawn into the second season? Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I'm sure it'll be good, but like, am I going to be that tempted to watch? Right. And it, and it is not unfortunate, but it's just because everybody loved him so much. and of course he was the main male character in the first season and Anthony kind of played a side role that now the second season he is the main character so it's just hard because I just feel like a lot of people

liked Regéjean page so much that now making Anthony the second season star everyone will just be like well he's no Simon, you know, like it's, it's hard to. Unless I put another guy in there that is right up there with. Yeah, I mean, they have some new, they'll have new cast members. They obviously cast, they have a love interest for Anthony that we have not seen in the first season. So maybe everyone will just be obsessed with her. It'll just be like a reversal. Everybody was obsessed with him in the first season. New cast members, maybe everyone will just be obsessed with with them. But obviously it was a big

time. I think female watched show. So they were, they were looking at reggae genre. Even Kim Kardashians out here on the internet being pissed posting about him leaving. Like that's, you know, it's a universal. Ladies are universally frustrated. They can't believe that this guy couldn't, you know, couldn't, couldn't give us a couple episodes. Imagine him being like, wow, even Kim Kardashian's upset. Maybe I shouldn't have turned it down. Yeah. Yeah, seriously. Or, or the other way around, he's like, Jesus, everybody fucking loved this, loved me and this so much. Like, good thing I'm getting out. Yeah, like, oh, I'm out now.

Yeah, who knows? Yeah. There has to be some level of, not guilt, but seeing the outcry of everyone so pissed and being like, did I make the right decision here? Like, I feel like he's not active. everyone. He's not really that active on social media, right? Or am I making that out? No, I don't, not too much, but there's no way. There's, there was nine million articles written about it. Like, there's no way. And it kind of seems like this guy might have some Google alerts

about himself. Yeah, but I feel like it's easier to ignore when you're not a huge social media person. Like, yes, you're going to see all the articles about it, but you're not going to see all the comments about those articles. Yeah, yeah. No, I, yeah, that's true. That, that's true. true. But even if you're not big on social media, like if you're not like somebody who usually uses it a lot, I think when you make a big announcement like this, you go back and check. Like, you go back and see what people are saying because it's like, well, you just made this massive announcement. And, you know, we would ever put out as much as I would like to be like, oh, no, I would avoid it. Like, I'm reading every single thing that everybody writes about me if this is me.

Yeah. Like, it would, I would be very. surprising if he like dropped this on Instagram and then never looked at it again was like oh yeah I'm done with it now like yeah okay you just made this major announcement that's freaking people out the more I'm thinking about it the more I'm like am I going to watch the second season like I like I said people think that I like you know I was like oh like I'm sure it'll still be good like I don't know like I like I said I didn't love it as much as everybody else and I feel like he was a big factor as to why I even watch this now I'm like am I going to watch this now I'm like am I going to watch the second season. Yeah. Yeah. It just hit me. I'm like, I just, I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. We'll have to see what people are talking about it, what people are saying about it. I know. Well, I'll definitely watch, so I'll let you know. Yeah. Yeah. You watch first and then you let me know. Yep. I will definitely be watching and we can, we can discuss. Oh, also just quickly in the world of Netflix shows, very exciting to see that they wrapped season two of Baderbanks. Oh my God. I cannot wait. I honestly started tearing up when I saw all those posts. Primetime summer release, I feel like. Yeah. And I pictured myself, it's a perfect time. I pictured myself being like, all right, guys, starting Outer Bank season two, see you on the other side. Yeah, that's going to be my exact tweet. I'm going to be like, see you in 10 hours. I'm not going to tweet anything about it.

And then I'm just going to fucking unleash all my thoughts after I do. I'm going to put my phone away for 10 hours. and just fly through that puppy. We should start it at the same time. We should watch it together. We could just hang out and watch it together. We could. Oh, let's do that. Okay, okay.

All right, I'm so excited. I'm freaking out. I mean, look, it got me very excited too, seeing like the post about it. I was like, oh, they just wrapped amazing. Like, we're really going to get this season this summer. So happy about it. No delay.

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We've seen this ring before when she posted an ad for. good American. People were like, is she selling good American or is this a post about her ring? Once again, it is back in the picture and people think she may be engaged to Tristan Thompson. Yeah, again, this is, you know, we were iffy on it at first because it was like there was the good American ad and there was the ring and this was just straight up like a photo of her hands with the ring on her finger. And to me, this is just her, there's nothing subtle about this ring.

I was going to say like a subtle way of announcing it, but there's straight up nothing subtle about that ring. But it does seem like from watching her talk about it on the Kardashians, because a lot of what I'm seeing on the Kardashians this season feels like really contrived. Like the last episode of people watched it, like the Spartan competition and the setup between Courtney and Scott. Like it just feels like a lot of it's very planned. The only thing that seems more genuine is Chloe talking about her own life.

Like Chloe being like, look, I've shared so much of my life on this show that now I don't feel like I need to be answering as much to the public. And also at the same time, it seems like Chloe, and her sisters think that Chloe is taking into consideration, like the public's opinion too much, like that she and Tristan are doing well, and they are moving forward. And even Tristan's getting frustrated because Chloe kind of wants to keep things on wrap, like behind closed doors and not share anything after,

you know, Chloe freaked out about Scott commenting on a photo being like Tristan's a lucky man and everybody freaking out and her deleting the comment. So it kind of seems like she, has decided that she wanted to take more of like a private route when it came to Tristan this time around, not sharing as much about it, which makes sense then as to why there wasn't some like massive engagement announcement. It's just like, I'm engaged, you know, here's the ring and that's that. Yeah, I feel like watching this season of keeping up with the Kardashians, first of all, Tristan Thompson

seems like another person. Like watching Tristan Thompson doesn't feel like we're watching Tristan Thompson. I know, I know. Doesn't it kind of feel like a robot Tristan Thompson or somebody has taken. Yeah, confessional Tristan Thompson is strange. And it just feels like he's not there. Like he's not present in his body or somebody's taking over his body during the confessionals.

Yeah. Because I'm just picturing the one confessional. where he's all like buttoned up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Looks like a priest. I'm like, what is going on? It does seem like he's trying. It does seem like he's trying really hard.

Yeah, there are moments that he said stuff. Yeah. And even Chloe's been like looking at him and she's like, what did you say? Yeah, maybe because of the image he's gotten from every, of all the fans of Kardashians, because think about it, we are fans, the people who love them or hate them, you're a fan on social media. Everybody's following them. Everybody's a fan of them.

So when everything happened, with Tristan Thompson, not once but twice. It wasn't like the Jordan Wood shit happened, and that was it. He had cheated on her publicly before, and it was a big deal. So I feel like we get attached in that way where we're like, fuck him. Yeah. You know, everybody was like, fuck Tristan Thompson, fuck Jordan Woods. But now that Tristan Thompson seems to be coming out on the other side of this,

I do see people, and it has changed drastically over the years, people now like respecting Jordan Woods more and being like, okay, Tristan Thompson's still in their lives. It didn't like completely mess up everything. You got a lot of shit, but we're just going to get off your back because they're accepting Tristan Thompson back into their lives. And I know it's that the same old thing where it's like, why does Jordan Woods have to come up in the conversation with Tristan Thompson? But that was the big scandal, you know?

Yeah. That's part of the reason why everybody is always monitoring. Tristan Thompson's actions and being like, oh, okay, he seems like he's, seems like he's trying. Yeah, definitely. That is kind of like the, now, you know, the meter that everybody uses. And I really do think that that is an engagement ring. I think I was, there was some, I was a little skeptical before in the first post, but with the second one, that thing is fucking huge.

It couldn't be more of an engagement ring actually looking at it. And from the comments, you know, Tristan commented with heart emojis, ring emojis. Like, it just feels like this is their own way of saying, like, look, we're happy, we're engaged, we're, we're in a good place. And I'm not going to, you know, come on here and make some massive engagement announcement, but here is where we're at. and where, you know, we're in a good spot and, like, moving forward, we're together. I mean, they've been talking about growing their family and, and things like that. So if, if Chloe's happy, I'm happy. Yeah, I think, I think they're engaged.

I think straight up they're engaged. There's no, oh, maybe she got a big ring for herself and where is it on that finger? And Tristan Thompson's also comment. No, they're, they're committing to each other and everybody needs to accept it. Also, I saw this photo that really just like, it's funny. Chloe looks amazing, number one. Chloe, they've been in Palm Springs or wherever they are for Easter. They've been, all of them been posting bikini pictures.

Chloe looks fantastic. On some Kardashian fan accounts, I saw someone had screenshot it, I guess MJ. I don't know if MJ has an Instagram, if someone runs an Instagram for MJ or like what is going on. But someone posted a totally unedited picture of Chloe in her bikini. And the fan accounts were like, MJ posted this on her social media. It was up briefly and then was taken down. And it's crazy because 100% she still looks fantastic. But like, it's just a good reminder when you sometimes see the photos that they post

themselves. And in the back of your mind, you're like, God, like, I know that this is edited, but is it's, is it, you kind of, you forget, you think like, I know it's edited, but God, like, is it, like, is it? When, and when I saw this photo and I was like, okay, she still looks fantastic, but like, she's smooth and shit, she's making her waist a little smaller. Like, there's still all these things that go down every single time they post something. I was going to say, and I didn't want to come across rude when you were saying she looks amazing. I was like, is she just going to say, like, I thought that's where you were going with it.

No, no, no. You brought all that up because I was going to be like, yeah, she looks amazing, but it all looks very edited. Like, I'd love to see what she really looks like. And the fact that you're saying that, like, yeah, I feel like it's also crazy, though, to have MJ delete it so fast. Did you see the picture? No, I didn't see it. And that's why I was going to say, like, I'm pretty sure that's all edited. because in their heads they can't have people see what they actually look like.

But then everybody sees on the Kardashians on the show, them in bathing suits and like what they really look like. So it's kind of confusing as to why they edit it so much on social media. I know. Maybe that's just like the aesthetic. Maybe like having perfect ass pictures is, you know, just them, just the Kardashians. It might be. I can't. I don't know if the fan account took it down now.

I can't, of course, I can't find it. And I did not take a screenshot of it. All right. I'm going to find it. I'm going to find it and send it to you to. But it was just, it was like a very real moment of like, yeah, she works her ass off. You know she does to, you know, in the gym and whatnot. But there is just so much still that that goes into it.

We're seeing that photo was like, just a nice reminder from all. the always perfectly curated body posts that they share on their own Instagrams. Demi Lovato released her new album on Friday, Dancing with the Devil, the Art of Starting Over, and we're going to talk about the album, the video. So before we start, just going to put another, I feel like with the Demi and the topics that she's covering in her songs and videos, you want to put a trigger warning here just for those who may not want to listen. You know, in her new music video, she does kind of relive her overdose. So we are going to talk about that, putting a trigger warning on this topic,

going through what she just released. I think that one, I just, Demi's, I post this. on my Instagram story. Demi's storytelling ability is like, is so phenomenal. I don't think she gets a lot of credit for that. So many of her songs that she writes are just so blatantly, like, honest. It just slaps you in the face. You know, she really, when you listen to this album and you should do it, start to finish, like in order, because it really, you feel like you are just hearing everything that she went through from,

overdose, like, you know, writing that, writing anyone days before she had overdosed into the overdose, coming out the other side, moving on, trying to get better, talking about the relationships in her life, writing us, you know, talking about the engagement that lasted two seconds, and then kind of ending being like, you know what? I'm in a good place right now. Like the last song on the album is called Good Place. So it's just, it's a ride, it's a journey, but it's like so perfectly Demi. Definitely.

I feel like when artists really put a story within their albums, it's always great to listen from beginning to end because you can kind of go on the journey with her in that way. Like you can just really feel the raw emotions that she felt during that time. And I think that's why, you know, with the documentary, I've been really enjoying the documentary. It's so emotional. It's so real. It's so honest.

And like you said, I think that's why Demi is such a great storyteller. Teller is because she is so honest. I mean, she's mentioned before, like, as honest as she can be because there are still things she keeps to herself,

which you obviously want to do. You want to protect herself in some way. And so there are some details she doesn't reveal, but she does a good job of giving a lot of it, just like almost all of it, it seems. And we've seen that now with the documentary and with this album as well and the new music video she put out where she reenacts her entire overdose. She's wearing the same clothes that she was wearing that night.

It's all very real. To be honest, I kind of had a hard time even watching the video like full through. It gave me chills in such just such a not a weird way, but I was just like I can't even. finish watching this video right now. It's so real. Like the song with it and having watched that documentary before and like seeing all the pictures of her that night and then her wearing the same clothes. Like it's all just so crazy.

And I, I. Super haunting. Yeah. It's very haunting. And I am curious as you, I feel like many people loved it and admire Demi a lot. And especially having how hard. it probably was for her to have to film that music video in general. Like she has to relive what was the scariest moment of her entire life to now deliver it to us as fans.

Like she was like, I want, I guess she wants her fans and everybody else to feel what she was going through and feel that emotion. I'm curious as to if people were like upset about that, you know, because I think in some ways, obviously you're like, wow, you really get the full picture. But in other ways, you're like, oh, this is, this is dark. Yeah. But for people to learn about it, I guess the only way to really show people what really happened is to show them what happened. Yeah, yeah. I did see some criticism on, you know, just scrolling through Twitter and things like that of what honestly looked like coming from mostly males talking about just, like.

like capitalizing off her overdose, like kind of making it seem like nurse. Yeah, that's not really what I was thinking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I know that wasn't what you're thinking about. I'm just saying that was really all I saw is people being like, there's so many, you know, there's so many people out there who do struggle with addiction and have had experiences like this where they're not able to then make millions

of dollars off of telling the story and whatnot. But that is a stretch. That is a stretch for me. I don't understand that because this is her story. She's a celebrity. She's a pop star. Like this is what she does. I think it would be more inauthentic

if she just like put out some bubbly pop album. Right. Exactly. It didn't sound like her. She didn't wasn't talking about the shit that she actually went through. Like she didn't overdose for fucking show. Like she didn't overdose like so that she could turn it into. So that she could turn it into.

an album. Like that's not the case. So she's just, I think being as honest and sharing her life is what she's always done. This is how she kind of gets, this is how she gets her things. And it's crazy because you saw it in the documentary too. Like I, I have not been through these experiences. I, she is speaking on her, you know, sexual assault. And the last episode, you know, she opened up about her first time ever having, um, being a rape. So it's like there were things that we didn't know and things that she was talking about and discussing and talking about how like she tried to take control of the situation by going back to that person and having like her be in control of the sexual, you know, moment between

them and trying to like have that idea of like taking the control back. It's just a lot of things that I haven't thought about that way because like I said, I haven't experienced it. But it just really opens up a dialogue. It makes you think about it a lot more. It makes you kind of think to how that I'm sure has some huge effect on how she is also handled the overdose situation and wanting to like control that narrative and putting out the song and putting out the songs and the videos and the album and everything worse. It's like that all happened to me. And now here's my story of how that all happened to me. Right. And she loves making music. And I feel like some people are like, well, if she's going through all this, why doesn't she just step away? It's like, well,

she loves making music. She's a great artist. She is one of the best, best voices ever. People really forget that with Demi Lovato because they're always talking about what's surrounding her and not her actual talent, it feels like a lot. Meanwhile, she has an incredible voice, like, absolutely outstanding voice. So I feel like why would she step away from something that she, it seems like she struggles with so much in her life and music is maybe one of the only things that actually makes her happy. So why would she not put her time and energy into that? So I don't understand the people who say like, oh, she's capitalizing on this. Like, well, nobody wants her to lie to everyone because then if she lies to everyone, then people call her out on that. And they're like,

what's this pop song you're putting out Demi? We know you don't feel this way. Right. So then her fans would be like, you're not being authentic to yourself. So even as serious as it is and how emotional it all is, I still think Demi put out an awesome album. Yeah.

Really such a great album. And the music video itself, like I said, like it's probably hard for a lot of people to watch. But I also think it was very hard for Demi to film herself. And as hard, I think, as it might be to like watch,

I feel like she probably went through, really went through it, re-shooting that entire thing. And I feel like because it's her playing herself in a situation that really happened is what makes it even more like, whoa, because, you know, you watch movies and TV shows all the time

where this shit happens and, you know, I could watch it just fine. But I think when you, when you are telling yourself, like, oh, this person, this exact situation happened to them. We're basically seeing her in that moment. Yeah.

It's just all so crazy. Yeah, definitely. And the documentary has been such a great accompaniment to the album. The album coming out paired with a documentary really tells like such a complete story. And I, like I said, if you got to listen to it from start to finish, the first four songs are like, are tough because it's very emotional. It's talking about the overdose. The third song is called ICU Madison's Lullaby.

Well, it'll immediately make you sob just like talking about her and her sister and having that moment of her waking up in the hospital and not being able to see her sister. And then having like a brief intro and then it goes into the art of starting over. And it's like how she has been rebuilding her life. The art of starting over, I said this to Noah before, has a little bit of like John Mayer vibes to it. Like it's just the background of it, I feel like the instrumentals of it.

I could see, like I could picture John Mayer playing the guitar on like a song like this. It has like kind of that just like happy, hopeful sort of vibe behind it. And then like I said, she opens up so much of like how she is in relationships, who she is with other people,

how she is with their friends. She has a song with Ariana Grande. That's amazing. Song with Noah Cyrus. That's amazing. She has really great features on this too. She's got sweetie on a song. But she's like sharing everything.

She's got a song, California Sober. Like, hey, this is how I'm living my life right now. She does a Mad World cover that like will give you deep body chills. Like just her covering that song. Talking about, you know, her relationship with her dad. And she also has a song called 15. minutes that is 100% about max it's just like hey hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes of fame and peace out that's pretty much i can't wait until i can't wait until that part of the documentary

i know i know i feel like we're about to get there with it and i'm i'm excited to hear all about that situation yeah definitely it's that's definitely in the next episode and on top of that you know just listening to the song it's you you very clearly get how she feels about the entire engagement. It's what a lot of people were worried about. It's a lot of what a lot of people and her fans thought in the moment, like, hey, this guy has some ulterior motives and feel like the song just kind of confirms that. It's like, you know what? I'm just totally done with you. Enjoy your 15 minutes. And, and that's about it. But it's a, it really is a great album. And I'm just, she's got to be.

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Draper's license absolutely rocked the world, literally. So she released DejaVu. this is her second single from her album that'll be coming out. I'm not sure when, but it's second single. And if you thought she wasn't going to be like talking more about what is the relationship situation, like once again, I was like, oh, this, this, this is definitely about the same stuff. This is, we're definitely in the same world here. Yeah, I have some.

pulled up that goes through all the lyrics and what they may mean. And I'm like, I really can't believe she wrote another song about this boy. Like, I think the whole album is going to be like this. I think the whole album was, was their relationship this series? And maybe it wasn't, but it probably wasn't. But she's, you know, she wasn't, but she stuck up on him. And she said, there was one of these things. Like, I had relationships that weren't really relationships that I was, like, fucking

cried about for weeks. Same. Now looking back at 26, I'm like, friend, Jesus Christ. Like, you weren't even dating that person. Same, honestly. I was obsessed with some people. Like, straight up obsessed and like, nothing ever happened from it.

So I could see myself writing some songs if I was a songwriter. But one of the lyrics, so when are you going to tell her that we did that too? She thinks it's special, but it's all reused. That was the show we talked about. Played you the song she's singing now when she's with you. Another one, her almost say my name because let's be honest we kind of do sound the same another actress i hate to

think i hate to think that i was just your type like just like straight up being like another actress yo what up again sabrina carpenter like yeah hey i'm i'm shouting you out again in this song like is a Sabrina now going to write another song like i i Sabrina's got to be like you got to be fucking right i i got to i got to get a visual on joshua bassett and Sabrina Carpenter. Like them FaceTiming, talking about this and being like, again, again. Yeah, I know, I know. But at this point, I'm like, this has got to be what her whole album is about.

She did an interview and she said that she wrote deja vu right after she wrote driver's license. So it makes sense. I feel like they definitely go together sharing a similar story. It's a great song, great music video. It's a good song. Like, I think a lot of people- Great songwriter. She's like, she's really good.

Every time I hear it, I'm like, this really just sounds like Taylor Swift. Like, she really takes a lot of inspiration from her, I think. And it's really good, but I feel like it's noticeable, which isn't a bad thing, but it is- No, not at all. It definitely is noticeable, but in a way that feels like a little, this isn't an insult to Taylor at all. Everyone knows I love Taylor. It's just a little, like, not fresher,

but she's just, she's new. It's new and she's at that age. Taylor is a grown-ass adult now. Like, you know, this is, we're getting vibes of like how much Taylor would share of her life when she was 17. Like, it's similar in that way. It feels a little, Olivia's vibe is like a little more indie to me just because Taylor Swift at this age, most of her, like that was still very much country music.

Like that's those albums, those first two albums. albums were considered country music, country pop. And this is like a little more indie pop in my mind. And it's a very cool vibe. She and she's just also another, like you said, really good with her lyrics to the point where like I think even adults, not that she's not an adult, but I'm saying even older people who listen to this song can relate back to this moment. Like they can relate to like getting out of a relationship and then that new person getting into a new relationship and being like, are you fucking doing everything you did like with her that you're doing with me?

Like I have I'm not going to say who because they're definitely don't want this shared. But I have someone in my life who I'm very close to who texted me and was like Olivia, she fucking did it again. And is someone who has just gone through a breakup and like is definitely just. definitely listen to this song and was like, yes, yes. So I think there's, there's a lot of people I'm like, oh, can I go through some heartbreak for like a day and raise it back just so I can appreciate the music a little bit more. Yeah. There were other lyrics mentioned, she mentioned Billy Joel a few times and people were connecting that Joshua Basset put out a cover to Vienna in 2019. So people were like, oh, Joshua likes Billy Joel. Olivia taught him, Billy Joel.

you know, strawberry ice cream in Malibu. You're trading jackets like we used to. People saw in the driver's license music video that it looked like she was wearing a replica of one of Joshua's jackets. So there's all these little hints. And I think that's a lot from Taylor. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

It resembles Taylor Swift a lot and it is also going to make her one of the top artists out there because this is what people like. They like to, you know, decode things. You know, Taylor Swift recently put out that big message. told everyone to decode it and everyone had so much fun with that. And it makes it kind of like an interactive experience for your fans to be like, ooh, I know this connection to that music video and when he did this song. So I really think she's, I mean, she's already a big star,

but I think she's just going to take off even more because the song was good and so was the music video. Yeah, exactly. And I think people were nervous. And I'm sure she was nervous too, putting out a new song after driver's license when driver's license was so huge. It's like, is this going to be as good? Are people going to like it? I, I, it's going to be hard to compete with driver's license ever for any song she ever puts out, like for the rest of her career. But this was very, very good, very enjoyable. Like I listened to it was like, okay, yes, we're, we're in a good place. I'm excited for the album.

And it just makes so much sense why she is blowing up. And I think young girls are going to love her so much is because there is that awesome young love, brutal honesty that every girl, like wants to blast in their room and sing at the top of their lungs and and be like, yes, I totally get where she's coming from. Right. And this was kind of the age that Taylor Swift was when everybody, you know, around our age and older were younger and they were around the same age as Taylor Swift. So they were like, oh, we relate to you. So I feel like she's in a great path. Totally. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office. We hope you guys have a great Monday, a great week.

Fran is free, so we're happy about that. And if you celebrate Easter, hope you had to have Easter. We'll talk to you guys on Wednesday.