Chicks in the Office - New Girls vs “OGs” (The Bachelor Week 4 Recap)

Episode Date: January 27, 2021

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Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne, giving you that Friday energy on a Wednesday. We are officially back in studio with Trent. Yay!

Yeah! Trent, welcome back. I love to be in your presence. It's amazing to have you back. Really good to hear that you're feeling. better. How are you feeling on a scale of 1 to 10 today? I'm a 9. I'm a 9. I'm a little bit tired. I didn't get as much sleep as I wanted to last night, but that's okay. It is high. I'm not, I don't even know if I'm a 9 and I'm not recovering from the same

thing. I guess I am comparing it to where I was like a week or two ago where I was just like laying in bed like boy, I want this to end. But seriously, I am very excited to be back in the studio doing this. It's just like a better feel. It is. You can, kind of, you know, you can see each other a little bit better. Zoom is, the world is Zoom now. But when we can do it like this, I think it's a lot better and I really enjoy it. Yeah, those hands in person, like a media's ever. They're back.

They are back. And it's great to have you here. And you're wearing the same sweatshirt. Yeah, one might guess, you didn't change at all. No, you actually didn't. You were wearing the Tyler Cameron, Matt James, shirtless sweatshirt, and it looks fantastic on you. It's not true that I didn't change.

Three, great looking men. Thank you. It's not true that I didn't change. did change. I left this here. I told you guys because I was like, I'm going to wear it for cutting stems because I want people to see it. And then I'm going to re-wear it for the podcast because I want people to see it again.

Because I genuinely do like it and it is actually really comfortable. It is slightly a little distracting. Is this going to be okay? Are you guys going to be okay if I wear this? We got to keep it in. No, I'll be okay. I'm just saying like if you catch me talking you but look at your sweatshirt, it's because I'm looking at your sweatshirt. There are a couple of good looking

gentlemen. And shout out to Tyler Cameron for shouting me out for wearing it. That made me happy. Well, you bought his sweatshirts out. It's the least you could do. I did. You did? What motivated you to buy it? I liked it. I liked it. Just a true friend and fan. It made me like almost tear up a little bit on how sweet it was. Very sweet. You also bought the Kylie Jenner sweatshirt. Yeah. I did. The Rising Shrine.

That took six weeks to arrive. You're the people we catered to when we make merch. Absolutely. And first of all, the Kylie Jenner one I still wear all the time because it is super comfortable. It's incredibly comfortable. It's incredibly comfortable. I will continue to wear this one because it's also comfortable. And it's like, it's just a fun. This sweatshirt is a fun piece of like Bachelor merch. Yeah. It's just, it's outrageous to a certain extent.

It's two shirtless guys on my sweatshirt. But like I love it. I love that this stuff exists. It's a nice pink color too, I will say. It's a color that you don't normally wear. You know, you're normally very neutral. So this is like a color for you. That's the first thing Noah said to me when I was wearing it.

Because I do. I normally wear dark sweatshards, black usually. but this one, if they had this in black, I would have bought it in black, but they only have it in pink, so I bought it in pink. And I'm going to wear it proudly. I really like it. Good for you. Thank you.

We're proud of you for wearing it and being proud of wearing it. And we're happy to have you here. I think it's time to get into the recap, a lot of drama going on. I've been thinking to myself how I was going to go about this recap. I'm going to be honest. I wasn't here during the recap last week. It's great to have you back. Oh, thanks.

Really great. The gang, the three amigos are back together. Yes, we are the three amigos, which by the way, I think we need to bring up Blake Moynes real quick. Our fourth amigo. Yeah, our fourth amigo, Blake Moynes. If you recall, if you listened to last Friday's episode of Chicks in the Office, I may or may not have said that Trump was going to fuck Blake Moyne's mom. Right.

As a joke. As a goof. As a goof. A bit. We're goofing on a podcast. So he had followed you guys, right? Your personal accounts. He followed both of you, and you guys brought that to my attention last week.

Yes. And I said, because somewhere in the past, before this a couple months ago, his mom had followed me on Instagram out of nowhere while he was on Tasha or Claire's season. His mom followed you mid-peak, us making fun of Blake Moynes. Correct. Like you said it to us and we're like, I mean, we couldn't have been, we're just ragging on his son all. His mom was like, yes, I agree with everything. So I'm going to follow you. So that happened and then I said,

Blake Moynes, you either follow me back or I'm going to slide into your mom's DMs. And then Rhea took it to a whole other level and said that I was going to. Naturally. Yeah, I was going to fuck Blake Moynes' mom. That still makes me die. It's very funny. Unbeknownst to us, Blake Moynes apparently listens to the show or his mom listens to the show. Or he was told to listen to this episode or something.

He got a heads up. That could be it too. And he caught wind of it. He started going back and forth with us on Instagram. He asked me not to have sex with his mom. And which I agreed to because I said that if he followed me back, I wouldn't even make the attempt. Yeah. So since he followed me back, we're all good.

Yeah. We're all good. And your mom is safe. We have a good, we had a good back and forth with him. He seemed like he got it. He liked the jokes. And he called Ria Rhee, which I love. All of my closest friends call me Rhee.

And if you call me Rhee, you got me because that means you enjoy me. Right. Like if you're calling me Ree, that means we're buddies, were pals. He sent, he wrote back to me. because I said, I'm sincerely sorry for saying that Trump was going to fuck your mom. She seems like a lovely lady. And he wrote back, now I have to find it. We have so many group chats that me and Fran are in with just like all different people

that sometimes I don't even know which one to go to. Let's see. Oh, he wrote, ha ha, I did a real LOL when I was listening to that bit. Good shit. I can handle your banter, no problem, and actually enjoy it. Have at it. No matter how fuck. slash vulgar. So which I love. Like that made me love Blake Moynes. Thank you for appreciating our

humor. And then I tweeted that out and somebody wrote, not Blake Moynes calling your content vulgar. And I was like, to be fair, I said Trent was going to fuck his mom. That's, that's vulgar. That's vulgar. So I appreciate Blake Moynes being cool with that. He can take a joke. And so hopefully he'll come on the show. That really is the bottom line that he gets it. Yes. Like if we can joke about that and you can still be like, I like you guys, you're in with us. He's in with the group. He gets it. He's all, he was, he was out of the circle and that put him inside the circle.

Absolutely. He's now. He's now. He's now. He's now my most liked guy from that season. Yeah. Like, I now, like, put Blake Moyette number one. Now looking back, it wasn't his fault that he was still around.

He, I mean, he was just doing his best. Let's also think about, he probably really enjoyed the sex strokes because he was known as the sexual guy all season long. I said he was going to be a porn star. Yeah. I'm forgetting all the shit we said about Blake. I mean. They were joking that like Blake Moynes was nonstop talking about sex on the season. So, you know, he's listening to us talking about sex with Trent and his mom.

And just give a compliment to his mother. His mom is delightful and delightful. She is a beautiful woman. She's beautiful and she also seems like she gets the joke. Like you, Trent, you commented, I guess I should put my shirt back on, which I died at. And she commented back a laughing emoji. So that means the whole, the Moynes family is inside the circle. They are, I want to hang out with the Moynes family.

The Moines family is firmly inside the circle. They're in. I saw people being like, oh, how classy of you guys. And it's like, I'm not here for class, sweeties. Like, I'm just, I'm not anymore. Right. Like, that's just funny. And like, if Blake is okay with it, then we're, like, it's all good.

Yes. It's just fun on the internet. Right. Yeah. Just some good old fun on the internet, which we had last night while tweeting about The Bachelor. Let's get into the recap. We did. This episode was,

Once again, a lot of drama because we still have Victoria. Victoria is still on the show. It's going to be intense. There's going to be a lot going on. And they brought the new girls in. We knew that this was going to be intense. But I guess the last group date kind of got confusing because Sarah left. So it was like there wasn't really a group date.

But the episode started with the end of a group date. It was like the night group date. Right. Which is where he had a great conversation with Chelsea, who sees. James absolutely fantastic. Honestly, might be too good for Matt, if we're being honest.

And she got the group date rows. It was a good, you know, happy for Chelsea. We like Chelsea a lot. And it seemed like a calm night. The women were all like, all right, things are starting to figure themselves out. You know, Sarah's gone. Here we are. No, they go to the row ceremony.

They start freaking out because Victoria is talking to Matt. And of course, Chris Harrison comes in. And Chris Harrison just... A rare Chris Harrison interruption. It was fantastic. It was. I really do think they waited specifically for Victoria to be talking to Matt to send Chris Harrison in. Absolutely.

Like they were like, all right, Victoria, you go. Okay, Chris, you go. They got Chris to interrupt. And Chris told Matt that there are new women. And to be completely honest, Matt looked like he was going to pass out. He did not seem like he was mentally prepared at all. Right. And as the girls start to show up, obviously the girls in the house are freaking out. And they're like, this is bullshit. We've been here longer. We didn't think we're going to have to deal with any more new women. And here come these new five women. But you're right. As mad as the girls were, I think Matt took it even worse. Because he's overwhelmed already. He's got 18 girls there right now before this all happened. And he's finding connections with a few of them. There's a lot of drama in the house that he's going to have to end up dealing with at some point. And I honest. 18. There were still so there were still so many.

girls there before they brought in five new ones. Here's five new ones. And he did. He looked like he was going to pass out. I would guarantee that he puked at some point that night. He just didn't look well and I felt bad for him because they just brought in new girls right before a rose ceremony and now he's got to make decisions against these girls he barely knows and these other girls who have been in the house who are going to hate him if he starts to

pick some of the new girls. Right. And not his fault. No. And he did that. He picked four out of the five new girls. girls, which was kind of crazy, in my opinion. I get it. Like, if you didn't like the other girls and you at first glance, you like these girls better, fair enough. But my God, like Matt

James, you know, get it together. Like, keep your head, keep your head on straight, man. Because you kept, I would think maybe one or two, he kept four out of five. Yeah. Of the new girls. All right. So who are they? Okay. So, all right. Brittany came out first. Yeah. Brittany. She's the one who just started making out with Matt. right off the bat. She came out and bold. Of course, all the women are looking through the window. So right off, you know, right away, they're not going to like, they're not going to like Britney.

And then there was Michelle. Yep. Then there was Ryan. Caterina or Catalina? Is it Catalina or is it Catarina? I'll tell you in exactly one second. I think it's Catarina. Catalina, we're thinking of the Catalina wine mixer.

Yeah, we definitely are. You guys are, I don't think, no, it is Catalina. It's Catalina. It's Catalina. It's Catalina. It's Catalina. It's Catalina. Oh my God. That's perfect. She has a nickname.

Catalina. I'm snapping necks and I'm cash in shape. Yeah. Okay. It really is a great movie. Oh, man. Oh, my God. So why do we keep quoting stepbrothers? Like with the Pam Pan, the Catalina wine mixer?

It's a, I mean, it's a great movie. When they hug at the end is really one of my favorite movie moment. ever. But so you guys are doing better than I would because I would have gotten Britney and Michelle and then I'm out. Ryan and Catalina. Okay. And then Kim.

Okay. And Kim might have the shortest stint on this show that we've ever seen for anyone. It's just like she was on point five seconds. Like she was out of the car and she was back in the car before you blinked. Right. It was. Yeah. And honestly, we talked about her dress, which was a controversial, you know, a little conversation

She looked like she was headed to a beach party on a tropical island. In Toulouse. I enjoyed the dress, quite frankly. I thought it was a beautiful dress. Awesome dress. Wrong occasion. Wrong occasion, I guess. But like if you're trying to stand out, that's the dress.

It's the fall in the middle of nowhere in Pennsylvania. I know. That's not the outfit. Maybe she's hoping that Matt was wearing a coat and he's like, let me put that on you. But I don't, oh, your belly button looks cold. Here's a coat. I don't, I don't dress for seasons. No, I'm wearing a shirt.

crop top today. It's snowing. Very fair. Very fair. And I do dress for seasons. Yeah, you're in full turtle next weather. I'm in full snow outfit today. I got my, I got some like legit boots on. That is the more appropriate way to go. I just, I can't get on board with that. The weather doesn't control you. No, it doesn't.

A hoe never gets cold. No. Oh, man. She's not wrong though, so. And, you know, these poor girls, these new girls, where they come into the house, and the first person they're going to run into, of course, is Victoria.

Brittany, they have a little bit of a dust up where... Brittany tried to come in and laugh and be kind of funny, like, ha-ha, I'm here, bitches, and they literally were about to stab her eyeballs out of her head. Well, she was also real... Not what, she is really hot. So I think... Very.

And she has some confidence. Yeah, she's got confidence. She's got it all. She's a hot girl who knows she's hot in, like, the perfect way. And she walks in, and she's like, I made out with him. I made out with him and everybody is not happy.

And I think usually we frown upon the initial meeting kiss right away because I know we did when the first limit entrances. Yeah, it's an aggressive move. It's an aggressive move. But when you are making up for lost time, I kind of see where her head was at. Yeah. I don't love it,

but I necessarily see it more for this one than whoever did it the first time. And maybe it just depends on The Bachelor or two. I don't know if that's maybe the best move with Matt. Maybe it is. Maybe it's not. I don't know. But, I mean, it worked. She got a rose to stay.

So it wasn't absolutely awful. But all these girls come in. Every girl that had been there already is freaking the fuck out. Catalina comes in. She's Miss Puerto Rico. She's got her sash on the crown. Victoria just plucks the crown off of her head. She's like, no, that's like actually for me.

I'm the real queen. takes the crown off the girl's head and puts it on her own head. And let me say, because we talked about this on Cunning Stems and we'll bring it up, this bitch got on fucking Good Morning America. Thank you for calling her a bitch. I'm sorry.

My question was that I was going to bring up in the beginning of the episode, I've been thinking in my head if I was allowed to call Victoria Names. That's as far as I'll go. I'm not going to get worse than that. I was about to get worse than that. Yeah, I'm not going to go worse than that,

but I just think she's a phony, a fake, phony. I watched her on Good Morning America. I was like, you are a fraud. Like, she's like, oh, everyone, that was like lighthearted and fun, like pulling, taking the crown. Like, it was a joke. Like, she just, you know what? She excuses being mean to people as a joke.

She called those girls slores. Yes. So I'm going to call her, see you next Tuesday. I won't say the whole thing, but she is. What's the synonym for a cunt? Because that's what she would be. And the more telling part to me, because we know Victoria what she's going to do.

She is obnoxious and I'm just ready for her to be off this show is when she pulls the crown off of Catalina's head, you look at all the other girls and they're just like looking away. They're like they don't want to deal with Victoria either. Nobody's going to stand up to her because she'll just, you know, point her sights at them and start being mean to them. So they all just turn their heads away and let Victoria be Victoria. I'm just so out on Victoria. Like I think we go back and forth each week like, all right, yeah, we want the show to have drama. you sometimes you need someone like Victoria to make things really interesting.

But now we're in week four, going into week five. And it's every... She's living in La La Land. She's gross. And every time, we're to the point now when ever there's a group setting and someone speaks first, Victoria says something obnoxious to them. And I'm just very over that. I don't know if she's a real person.

I don't know if she's a producer plant. I don't know what she is. But it's gotten on my nerves now to the point where I'm just ready for her to be off the show. If you saw her on Good Morning America, She basically, the whole reason why she even was on Good Morning America was to talk about the mugshot was to be like, I feel vindicated that after nine years this is out there and like it's, you know, I'm done with it. We don't even care about the mugshot. Don't care that you're a bitch. Don't care.

And so she basically, she basically made it sound like, oh, the girls know her heart and she's not, she's not a mean person and everything was ingest. It was all, you know, fun and games. We're all kidding around here. She's like, I actually made friends with one of the new girls. She just really, like, lives in her, in her old world, saying that, like, the name calling. She didn't think was that bad. And it's just, she, like, doesn't even realize what she's doing. And it's the same thing that happened when she was talking to Katie at the beginning of the episode when Katie said the trash took itself.

I mean, Victoria said the trash took itself out about Sarah leaving. Right. And afterwards, Katie and Victoria sat down just two of them. And Katie was like, you're just, you continue to say mean shit about everyone. Like and because Victoria demanded Katie apologize to her. Crazy. For Katie calling her out in that moment being like, hey, she's gone. Like we don't have to talk about her anymore.

Especially we don't have to talk about her badly because now she's already gone. Right. And Victoria was like, I think you need to apologize to me for how you talk to me. Like those are the worst kinds of people who think that just because they have like the right to say something that like they can say whatever the fuck they want. She's like, well, I can say whatever I want, and you said that I can't. So you have to apologize to me. So when someone else says something to them, they say, whoa, whoa, where is this? What's going on here?

I have the right to say whatever I want. And then another's, shut up, shut the fuck up. Like, it's, she's so hypocritical. She's seriously one of the worst people I've ever seen. Like, no joke. At first we were like, oh, it's entertaining. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She sucks.

Obviously, she's disgusting. But she's giving us good TV. Now it's just like, I hate this human being. I think she is just gross in every sense of the word. And she's just like, how is nobody in that house freaking out on her? Like, Katie is really handling it well because I don't think I'd be able to sit in that house and listen to Victoria and not tell her to shut the fuck up. Like, I would be like, seriously, shut your fucking mouth for one time. You have no social awareness.

You lack literally everything that makes a decent human being. You lack all of it. There's not one redeeming quality about you. Everything sucks, including your ratty hair. Take a brush and brush your fucking hair. It's gross. I do understand not. I just wouldn't want to deal with it.

Like, if you try to do it, then if you're mature, like Katie, you step aside and you have a conversation about it. But I wouldn't even want to do that. Like, I sort of understand the other girls just like, don't even, don't engage. Don't even have to deal with it and just sort of let her burn herself out. But I understand, like, at some point you got to get fed up out. That's probably the smart way to go about it. I'm just saying I don't know how they're doing it, right?

It's like, you're dealing with this girl in the house. It's like, has no one just absolutely snapped? Like, I think if I'm one of the other girls that's been in the house and you see the new girls come in, I would pull them aside the new girls if I'm one of the other ones and be like, listen, you're going to have a tough time because we don't like that there's new girls in the house, but none of us are as bad as Victoria. Like none of us are as ruthless as her, so don't make it seem like that's like everyone in the house. She's out on her own island.

I would say in front of everyone, don't listen to that girl. I would just point her out and be like, don't listen to her. She sucks. Yeah, she'd probably freak, but then everyone would be like, yeah, you're right. Yep. Everyone would then agree. And then maybe it would get her out if everyone joined forces publicly. It's just, and this is the thing.

She just, I think, is very good at faking it. She just feels like someone who turns it on and off just from watching this Good Morning America appearance. It was like it was a different person. Like she was full, oh, like sweet girl voice. She turns on the sweet girl voice when she, and it's like, okay, this is just not who you are. Like, she's like, oh, you know. And if I really, if I did offend anyone, like, I sincerely apologize. Like, that was never my intention.

Like, it's just all bullshit. Can we get her on the show just to fight with her? Because I honestly would have her on and just argue with her the whole time. Just to be like, you really suck as a human being. She just contradicts to herself. Like, you can't go on Good Morning America and be like, oh, if I have. offended anyone. I'm so sorry. And then be in the house and calling everyone slut, whore, ho, like, just being trash. Like, just, like, that's not, it's just not funny. Like, it's just,

you know, like, she thinks it's like, that's like endearing. Oh, just kidding. Like, we're just having fun, slut. Like, no, that's just, you don't know. You do that with your friends. You don't know, right, like, you don't even know these girls. Yeah. If they, if they were friends, as she was calling them sluts and horrors to be like, all right, fun. If they known each other for years and they had that kind of relationship. I like when these girls for two weeks. A slutter or whore.

It makes me feel like we're close and comfortable, but not if I don't know you. If I don't know you when you're calling me that. And she's not doing it like, she says she's doing it all fun and games. It's ha-ha.

But she's like, no, she's not because she's actually just like trying to be mean, I think. Agreed. I don't know. Katie's the only one who really has said anything to her. But once again, Victoria got a rose at the rose ceremony.

I just, I can't believe that. the producers are making Matt keep her for this long because I really think she would have been gone by now so we just have to keep dealing with her bullshit until I don't know maybe they were waiting for this big buildup if Katie rats them out and they get sent home I don't know but Victor hi and that this is the last thing I'll say I'm going to say about it

she also sat on Good Morning America that she thought like she was going to be received well by the by America Like she thought that she was going to be like that's the lack of self-awareness. That's what I'm saying. Like she's wax. Right. To say the shit that she did on camera and then to leave filming and be like, you know what? I crush that.

America's going to love me. Like you got to be out of it. Right. Because we've talked to people who got the villain cut and they had no idea. Like they really had no idea that was going to happen because it can't happen where, you know, a couple things break the wrong way and they can make you look a certain way. Victoria, there was no doubt. If you, I mean, for her to say that. Unless all the producers were like, every time she called someone a slut or a whore to be like,

like a producer would be like, yes, that's hilarious. Say it again. Like, I don't know. That's just a lack of self-awareness. I can't deal with people who have a lack of self-awareness. Like I consider, I'm annoying, I'm dramatic. You know, I have done TikTok dances. I'm all cringy at times.

Like, I get it. I'm aware of all those things. You need to be aware of the things that sometimes are like, like, it's crazy when people have zero self-awareness. It's crazy. I do think Victoria, I mean, her time, next week I would imagine she probably goes home. But now we've got Anna who is, she's not handling the new women well. No.

She's handling a freak out before the Rose ceremony. Right. Worse than all the other girls in the house. So I think she might be the next up for all the drama. Yeah. And so Kayla, Kylie, and Kim were the ones that were sent home at the Rose ceremony. There are still 20 women left. an insane amount.

We went from 18 before the row ceremony to 20 after. To 20 after. Yep. I thought Kayla seemed really sweet. Maybe she gets a shot in Paradise. I don't think she got enough time with Matt. Kaylee, Kylie, Kylie. She apparently, according to Reality Steve,

also knew the rumors about rumors about Brittany. in Chicago because she's also from Chicago. And it said that she and Anna, I guess, had talked about her, like, during the row ceremony, that they had both heard of her from Chicago. But then she was sent home. And Anna was the one who took it upon herself to share with the group what she had heard. Yeah.

Obviously, Anna stinks. We now see that. I feel like she was very threatened by Brittany and completely lost it. up these rumors and bringing it on national television, which is now like, okay, now people are going to think this girl's an escort, which is unfortunate if she's not. Here's the thing, though, like, I don't know if I necessarily believe that she's not. I don't care if she is at all. Literally couldn't care less.

But I have seen people be like, I think she is. So I'm not going to get too deep into it. But I don't know if necessarily they're not. There may be some like a little. She's saying she's not. So I'm whatever, I'll just believe what she says. But I do think that maybe there's some, maybe it's not full on escort, but there's some truth to the rumor or whatever it may be.

But also, if you don't know for sure, then don't bring up something like that. Or if it's like, oh, she hangs out with wealthy men. Right. That could literally mean anything. You know what I mean? Like that doesn't necessarily mean that she's a dangerous. Yeah, no, exactly. Exactly.

If she really is, if she really is, it would be dangerous for her. There's so many consequences to revealing something like this on TV when you have zero facts to back it up. Anna said to the camera, you know, she hangs out with older wealthy men in Chicago and she might be an escort. Like there was no. Are you not allowed to want to get engaged and be with somebody if you hang out with wealthy older men at some point in your life? Like I'm just confused by that part of it because it's like who even. Right. Is it disqualify her from the show?

Like, no. What would that even really do exactly? Because it just seemed like a jealousy thing. Brittany comes in. She's super hot. She's the first girl to come in, makes out of Matt James right away. And Anna absolutely spirals out of control. And you can sense the extreme jealousy coming out of her.

It was really just because a good-looking girl came in and she wasn't happy with it. Everything she did with that information was the wrong move. The first person she told was Victoria, which now means everyone knows. The whole house probably knows. And then the first time Anna brought it up to Brittany was in. front of everyone in front of everyone. And in the middle of telling her, she says, I apologize for this. This is a rumor. But I'm going to do it in front of all these people. And we're going to make you address it right here in front of us. She's just, every move she made with it was the wrong move,

saying it on national television, telling it to Victoria first and then basically attacking her in front of the whole group. Like she did. She spiraled out and just didn't know what to do with it. And it was really unfortunate for Brittany all the way around. Yeah. And these girls are super manipulative and mean. A lot of them. It's besides Katie, to me, nobody has really stood out as somebody who has been like against the crowd of mean girls that are on this season. It seems to be more than ever. And yes, you know, we root for the drama and it's interesting to see all the, you know, for entertainment purposes. But then when you think about them in real life, you're like, are the, is this the way all these girls act? Because if so, that's quite unfortunate. Like, that sucks.

if all these girls are just shitty people like this? I don't know. I am not a fan of Anna. Really don't like Anna. Really hate Victoria. Like, Victoria and Anna buddying up, that's when Anna should have realized that she was going off the deep end.

When she started hanging out one-on-one with Victoria, she should have, like, you know, realize in that moment, like, this is going downhill for me. Because there's no way you're going to make it on this show. If you start buddying up with somebody who's calling everybody, slores. Like, it's, it's not going to be good for you. Yeah, and I think the house really takes after Victoria a lot. Obviously, all these girls are to blame to a certain degree, but when Victoria is the

most vocal one, and now Anna's stepping up and being very vocal as well, it's just sort of everyone, it's easier to be, we talked about a little bit last night, like mob mentality, where it's like, all right, this is the, how we're going to, you know, present ourselves in the house and Victoria's being mean, and Anna's starting to be mean. So let's just, it'll be easier if we all just come together and I guess be mean together and it's just I blame Victoria for a lot of it. One of the worst things when it comes to like attacking somebody. Because when

somebody says something about someone and somebody thinks it's funny or whatever it may be and they just jump onto that even if they maybe they don't believe it or you know because I'm sure some of the girls there aren't mean girls but they're just going along with it because somebody is leading the pact. So you

got to step out from that. It's one of the worst places to fall into. Yeah. And I was trying to I was trying to find what exactly Anna said to Brittany in the group setting because it was kind of like, hey, by the way, I heard that, you know, you're an escort and I told everyone, but like I'm sorry because I don't really have any reason. Like, I just heard it from people. She said, I actually was getting messages from people in Chicago. I'm just kind of them saying, watch out for this girl that like you're an escort and all this stuff.

Bernie denied it. And then Anna says, I think that's an awful thing to say. about someone and I want to apologize. What a weird apology in the middle of doing it. And what does that mean watch out for someone they're in escort? Like they went, oh, she's going to come and snack you

up with her vagina late at night. Like, what does that mean, watch out for someone who's an escort? What is she going to do to you? Nothing. And it handled it so poorly. She just handled that whole thing so badly. And I think she is clearly, and from what previews we're going to see, I feel like she's

we're going to regret a lot of that too if she gets called out for what she did. But she also smiles when she's mad and that sounds a chilled out of my spine. Yeah. I mean, like, she's, she just, you know, and I felt bad for Brittany because she was like, you know, you guys are making conclusions about me. You don't even know me. Like I feel like everyone's now against me in the house. And Victoria said, okay, then get out of the house.

Like she's just, it's really, it's tough. It's not funny. She thinks it's funny and it's not. So it's fun. It's crazy to hear her. still to this day right now, say she thought like all of those things were were funny and that the girls also thought they were funny. And Katie was the only one who could actually stand up to her because a lot of the other girls who, like you said, it's a mob mentality. Like Michelle got the one-on-one, which we'll talk about.

But the way that the other girls reacted to that one-on-one just shows that they're all like in a bad head space. They can't handle this. The new girls, it's not their fault that they came in after everyone else. Like, why are you taking it out on them? Oh, remember when Victoria said to, oh, so you were just a backup? Yeah, so you're just been like waiting to like come out? Oh, so you quarantine as a backup? Not even knowing if you were going to be on the show.

Five times in ten seconds. Yeah. And guess what Robert Mills said that like this was their plan all season. Like they, from the beginning they, of course. They didn't just decide, wake up Monday and say, we're going to go. five new girls in there. They had these girls waiting. They knew the plan.

So it was like the girls that were there before don't really have any right to think that they're better than the new girls because they were all cast at the same time. The entitlement. Like you just luck at the draw that you got to be there before them. The entitlement that came along with My Limo showed up first. Oh my God. O.G is like, nobody said that, but that's definitely what they were thinking like, we've been here for a couple weeks.

This is an OG group date. This is a varsity date. OG has got to be saved for somebody who's more. OG. There's no other word to put it besides like I hate when the word OG is thrown around for people who have been around for 20 days. Like I said this on cutting stems last time. I'm like OG is like CT Johnny Bananas on the challenge. They've been on it for 20 years. Oh geez. Yeah. Yeah. You've been on the show for 20 years. They couldn't even handle being on a group date with some of these new girls. Like the squirrel. The fucking obstacle course. Why is that such a problem? Like it's so bizarre to me.

Rather than so much more than you think it would. What's crazy is that these girls probably all hated each other. And then once the news girls came in, they were like, all right, now we're friends and we hate them. Which is exactly what the show wants. I mean, that's kind of like where it's like, holy. Great entertainment. Yeah, yeah. They bind them together.

Now you got these two rival groups of girls. But yeah, no, it's crazy. Making the first effort to be friends with new people who come in would be the way to go. Then all of a sudden you're like the most like person on the show. Everyone respects you. Why is none of these girls thinking like that? Gotta play the game. Even if you don't.

Katie, the only one with a brain. Even in your head, if you're like, fuck these new girls. You got to just suck it up and be like, hey, nice to meet you. Yeah, they handled it poorly. The dates, all the dates were interesting. The first group date this week was Ben Higgins showed up. Nice to see him. Oh, gee.

Ben Higgins, he is there to talk to Matt, also to organize like the most wholesome fall obstacle course this show's ever seen. It was like, hey, everyone gets to paddle in a pumpkin-sized canoe and then they have to put on a squirrel costume and jump into a pile of leaves to find an acorn. It's like they, I think they stole this, I think they stole this date idea from my own brain. I have been talking about the foliage and the fall all the time. And they're like, all right, you think the coming back from commercial shots are great. Right.

Let's hollow out some pumpkins. Let's take some ideas from like a children's fall pumpkin patch. Like what could we find like squirrel costumes, acorns? Seeing these girls like do their interviews in the squirrel costumes were kind of hilarious. And I believe Marie was the winner. Chris Harrison handed her a D's nuts trophy. so they're just really crushing it.

I don't even know that. Oh, my God. He literally was like, Here's your award, D's Nuts. It was like, it's two acorns. It was a statue with two acorns. Chris Ahearson said D's nuts and I missed it. Yeah, pretty much.

Oh my God, that's something I would have held on to. Like, so hard if I heard Chris Arison say D's Nuts. Yeah, he was like, here's your nuts. The best. So, and it's hard to even talk about. about the dates because the girls didn't talk about anything else besides like the new girls and the drama and that situation even at the night the night date like that them talking about they wanting to get their time and not getting their time the girls who are kind of trying to mind their own

business but also not say anything seem to be in the best situation I think it was brie who got the rose on that group date because it was like she's just handling herself, like mine in her own business. I think it was, or maybe, I can't remember what group date, Bree. No, because we didn't have a second. It's very confusing. Yeah. The episode ended with them still on the group date.

Yes. So this was Bree one, Bree got the rose on the first group date. And these, like, these are the girls who you see in the interviews and are talking to Matt. And you're like, oh, they seem so sweet. This is like a good person. We like Brie. And then with all the drama is going on, they're totally trying to not be included in all this, which is smart.

Smart move because the girls are still so upset, still talking about Michelle, when Michelle gets her one-on-one, they're all pissed that one-on-one gets a one-on-one. They're taking time from the OG girls. I think it was MJ who was like, yeah, I'm pissed that she got the one-on-one date. Like, I've been here longer. Like, I deserve that date more than she does. Like, no, actually you don't. Nope. Actually, you don't.

You've done nothing to deserve the date more than Michelle, only because you got here sooner. Doesn't mean that at all. And guess what? The date with Michelle was fantastic. A delight. Before we get into that date, let's quickly talk about our health,

how we're feeling. The new year. We're trying to get ourselves well. And Ria and I took a little quiz online together, trying to get these good, good vitamins. Ria loved the quiz. I loved the quiz. You loved the quiz. Fran was like answering the questions for me. Yeah, it was.

It was like, what do you need the most help with? I'm like, oh, pick that one. She was like that. And honestly, I was like, damn, it's like a wake-up call, like whatever. But it, I loved it because it gave me all these vitamins that I'm going to be taking now. Vitamin D, iron, a new one, Ashwaganda, which I've never heard of that I'm really excited about. Western medicine type situation. Yeah. collagen powder, chill sticks, because the one that frame was like, picked that one was like stress. Was stress and anxiety as like select.

Yeah, because there were so many, I have so many fucking issues. Like I got digestion issues. I have bone issue. My hands, they cramp up. I have TMJ in my jaw, my jaw locks. I can't move my jaw. And I wake up with headaches. I have so many issues with my body that I couldn't decide which one was the most important.

And then we all decided collectively that the reason I probably. probably have fucking carpal tunnel at the age of 23, and my jaw locks, and I'm grinding my teeth, and I have all these headaches, is all from stress and anxiety. Like all of those issues, my stomach, I wake up with a pain in my stomach every morning for the last two years.

Why? Stress and anxiety. So basically, Trent, this is care of. Care of is a fantastic company. You get personalized vitamins sent right to your door. And you take the quiz and it says, what are your major areas of concern? They give you a bunch of things to choose from.

And yeah, we were selecting, Oh, I wanted to... Selecting all of them. I want my hair to grow, and it's like my number one priority. And Fram was like, you can't pick hair. It wasn't even... It was... Like, to say it wasn't me, it was...

Anxiety stress. It was anxiety stress. Digestion, bones. Her hair. And I was like, oh, definitely hair. I'm like, Ria, the hair is the healthiest thing you got going to you right now. What are chill sticks? Did you say chill sticks?

Yeah, I now got chill sticks coming to me, and I will let you know how they are. I'm very excited to receive my first order. No joke. I am so. excited to try this out because the way that you take the quiz, right? There's like 60 questions. It takes like five minutes and you answer personal questions about yourself. And to be honest, vitamins and powders and that type of stuff, it really helps you. And it's something that I've really wanted to get into and just really haven't. I've tried before. But when they like curate it for you and you

tell them what's wrong with you, it's like going to a doctor and having a doctor be like, you need to take this medicine or whatever it may be. So I am so excited to try some of this stuff because the chill stick, It's supposed to help you out, stress-wise, supposed to just naturally calm you down. And I'm so excited to try it out because I think the vitamins, the powder, the collagen, all that I think is really going to be a huge help. And I think everybody should go on care of right now. Do the quiz. Five minutes, tops. And you will really enjoy taking it because you will look deeper within yourself.

Like me and friend just said, it was like, I care about my hair. It was eye opening. Yeah, it was eye opening. You care about your hair, but like, that's not your biggest issue right now. Right. Yeah. It's eye opening because they asked you a lot of important questions, which just kind of make you think about your general health and just like fruits. Are you eating fruits?

Are you eating vegetables? It just makes you think like, okay, you know, taking care of myself as a priority. These vitamins, you might be lost when it comes to vitamins and not know what to take. They tell you exactly what you should be taking based on your needs. And best of all, after you take the quiz, you get 50% off. if you use code C-I-T-O-50. So for 50% off your first care-of order, go to take-care-of.com.

Use code C-I-T-O-50, 50% off your first order. Pretty sweet deal. Yeah, it's an amazing deal of 50% off. Go do it. We are on this journey to become healthier and not miss any more Bachelor recaps because of that. For sure. Speaking of fruit, I had an apple the other day.

Proud of you. But I ate an apple. Snap pause. Thank you. Had an apple. It was great. I really enjoyed myself. Apples are fantastic.

You ever have an apple with honey? No. Apples with honey, you're good. Apples with honey and cinnamon. Whoa. Or just apples and peanut butter? Classic. Apples and peanut butter I have.

Oh my God. I saw a genius thing on TikTok the other day. Genius. Peanut butter and jelly sandwich with apple slices. Like you cut the apple in half. and cut, take out the core. And slice it and put it in the sandwich? No.

You put the whole thing in there. Use the apple as bread. So you're replacing the bread and you're just putting peanut butter and jelly in the middle. Yeah, cut it in half, take out the core. And then the apples, the two ends are like the bread of the sandwich. Interesting. What? I'm allergic to peanuts.

Well, Noah can't eat peanut butter. So why? This was something you just need to chime on. I actually. I was mean. No one cares about people. I was talking about this with someone else. No one cares about people with peanut allergies.

It's like I could die instantly, but no one cares. You know what? I actually, no, we certainly do care. We have thought about it before. Let's bring awareness to peanut allergies. No, we certainly do care. And I will say that is definitely a problem that I think every single one of my friends who has a nut allergy thing.

Because they're always like, oh, we're like at a restaurant or we're like stacking. It's like a punchline for anyone. Yeah, so it's like, oh, you're like, Stop being such a nuts. But honestly, I would die. Yeah, no. Very quickly.

Damn, man. Noah was like, no seriously, if you bring a peanut around me, I would drop dead. Noah is definitely right though because that is something people, friends forget about all the time.

Like, I have one friend that has a severe or not allergy too and all the time like, we'll bring, if we're all in the car, like one of us has like a bar or something and has nuts in it and we're like, oh, shoot, sorry. Yeah.

It's just, there have been, I know Noah's looking at me because there have been times where I've like, I remember I made that pie and it was like basically all peanut butter. What? The charcutory board.

Oh, the charcutory board. I told you guys before. Had nuts? It didn't have nuts. No, it did. There was something. Yeah, there was wall nuts. Oh.

Remember when we were at dinner that one time when I was having like a panic attack? And then I thought that the French fries had peanuts in them. We went to dinner after we interviewed the Jonas brothers. We were in Chicago. Denver. Yeah, Denver. Oh, no. Denver.

I've never been to Chicago. Literally never been to Chicago one time. Sorry, I messed up the sea states. Colorado. Chicago, not a state. Yeah. Illinois. I'm not an idiot.

I swear. Chicago, also known as Denver. Sorry. We were in, the story's useless now. I embarrassed myself too many times. We were in Colorado, and we, had just interviewed the Jonas Brothers and we were going to eat before going to

the Jonas Brothers concert. I was not in a good... Noah was not in a good state. First of all, we... Legal substances. Legal substances in Colorado. That Noah and I part took in. Had influence in the dinner. Noah literally,

it was so awkward after because we sat at dinner. And Noah was like insanely quiet and acting very, very strange. And me and Fran were like looking at each other. Like, what do we do about this? And then he started freaking out that there was peanuts in his French fries that he was eating and started being like, my throat's closing.

Like, like freaking out at the table. And he was also so high, like bugging out. And Fran and I were usually we're, I would say we're pretty good at like, if something's going wrong, we're going to try and help out. We were both in a state where Fran was so done. She was like, I don't care. Like she was like, stay home. Like, because we were going to the Jonas Brothers concert after, she was like, you really don't have to come.

Like, kept insinuating, like, please stay. Keep in mind, this was literally the best day of my life. Right, I was going to say, don't, hey, because it was part of it. Like, I'm like, oh, fuck. Like, we were like, we were like, off a high. This is the best day of my life. We're at this dinner.

And Noah's like, I'm going to die. I'm like, no, you're not. Yeah, like, it honestly was a huge downer to the day because it was such a great day. Yeah. And then he thought he was like, I don't know if I, like, I don't know if I, like, recorded the microphones right? We were like, all right, stop it. Stop it.

Yeah. Yeah. I was like, you're getting in your own head. Everything is going to be okay. We're going to the George Brothers show with or without you. Yeah, we've had moments where we cared about Noah's peanut allergies and then we've had moments where we were just like, Noah, come on. We're like, look, we're in a nice restaurant.

You got French fries. You can eat the French fries. We promise you. It's going to be okay. I respect you anytime, like when they brought up peanut butter on this with the apple sandwich, you were like, I'm ready. I'm ready to go to war against. This peanut-based thing.

I honestly got sick thinking about her describing it for some reason. Usually I don't, but like, I don't know. Are you feeling better now? It's still kind of not. Apples and honey. Apples and honey. Apples and honey. Apples and honey.

Apples and honey. Boston Market. You like Boston Market. Yeah. What do you get? We could talk about it. Half chicken breasts in like 10 different sides. Nice.

We actually thought about ordering Boston Market for dinner last, for dinner for the bachelor. Yes. Yes, because there isn't one in Manhattan. Boston Market. What? There isn't one in Manhattan anymore. Like they're all closed. Yeah, we couldn't get it delivered.

Oh my God. We tried to do it. I did it for, I, yeah. We were like, what you did. We really did it thinking of you too. Yeah, I was like, let's get Boston Market. Yeah, so if you think I don't care. I know you love Boston Market.

We tried. And for the record, we really did try. Devin put the whole order in and then it was like, sorry, you're too far away from the only location is like Brooklyn, the closest one. Oh, that's sad. Yeah. Yeah. Let's just end the podcast.

We're talking about the best. I said I had the bachelor on the show. I said I had an apple and it really just took off. Yeah, I really did. Sorry. Yeah, that was what did it. I was about to get back into the one-on-one and you had to say you had an apple. I was proud of myself.

Congrats on the apple, trend. Thank you. I might do another one in the future. An apple a day. Keeps the doctor away. You said it. I only did. I only started when she finished.

I mean, finished what she started. Fuck. All right. You only started when I finished. Yep. The one-on-one date with Michelle was delightful. It really was. Matt, like a warm peanut butter sandwich with milk.

Matt, I think you can read Matt's emotions pretty well. Like I don't think he hides his emotions pretty well. You can see how nervous he was when those new girls showed up. But you could also see how relaxed and calm he was on that date with Michelle. He felt like he was very open. They're laughing. They're giggling. Yes, he does laugh at everything.

Ria, I know he does. It's very true. He has one of those. big ho ho ho ho like laughs that really laughs at at everything he was laughing so hard at like everything we were saying and and felt like the funniest people ever it's a fantastic trait yeah it really and he also like hits your arm and like crouches over laughing belly laughing and i left being like i'm the funniest person on the planet like this is no he really does kind you up with how much he laughs like fran's brother even met him and fran's brother after was like i like think i have a crush on

James because he's because he's really does you up with how much he laughs like fran's brother after was like i like think i have a crush on James He just makes everyone feel so welcome. So welcomed and like really just laughing at everything where everyone was like, wow, like you like, you like like, you're laughing at everything we're saying. We must be so funny. Well, you are right, Fran.

You sort of have to pick through and look at moments where he is very happy. And this date in particular after they did the zip line where they raced down the zip lines and Michelle barely beat him, he was like, I can't believe she got first. I can't believe she was there first. And like they were like having like a real moment and really. laughing. You can totally tell which girls I think he has more invested into than others because even when he is talking to some of these girls who we haven't seen who haven't gotten enough time

quite yet when they're together, he's like, what can I do? And he's kind of said it to all of them, but that's okay. He's like, what can I do to make you know that I really want you here, that I appreciate you being here? Like he has said that to a few girls now where it's like, okay, well, he's certainly not saying that to everyone. with Michelle, it seemed really easy right off the bat. It seemed like they got along super well.

It's a beautiful date. Ziplining outdoors, hot air balloon. I mean, hot air balloon above the foliage was just like, that was actually straight up out of a romantic comedy. The ugly truth. Have you guys seen the ugly truth? No. Oh, man.

Is that Gerard Butler? Gerard Butler and Catherine Hegel at the end of the movie. They go up in a hot air balloon. See, hot air balloons, I think of the Amanda show. And I think of Amanda's mom going missing And her toe Her toe And so I have never been on a hot air balloon

For that reason Her dad's toe, right? It was I think it was her dad's toe And her mom was lost in hot air balloons Yeah no her mom was lost in the hot air balloon And they would always just show her being like Amanda

In the hot air balloon So I've never been You don't know what we're talking about Do you once again You fucking loser Amanda show No Hot air balloon makes me think of Joe Dirt

Mm-hmm Okay, sure. You know what? The Amanda show. Talk about killing the mood. The Ugly Truth and the Amanda show. Just no Joe Dirt fans out there. But you know what?

I think we just went across the board for anyone who listens to this show. You had to at least resonate with one of those. Whether it was the Amanda Show, Joe Dirt, or the Ugly Truth, one of those had to have hit. So we're covering all of our bases. True. That's how we'll think about that. But the date.

Most people will think of the Amanda Show. Yeah, probably. The date was fantastic. I thought. I think he really likes her. She's now. And every one-on-one date, it's like, oh, she's the front-runner. But now, Michelle, like, I think she's way up there.

She's a teacher. She seems, they had such a great conversation. Yeah, it is true that each week it seems like we got a new front-runner. First, it was Sarah. She's not there anymore. Katie, I think we all can kind of agree that, like, while she is the only other adult on this entire show, her and Matt, like. Like, Bree and Serena Pia both have had one-on-one dates where it's like, oh, okay, they seem like they. Yeah, I did like, Serena P and Matt, I thought they had a great date.

But this one, they were aggressively making out in the hot air balloon, which was funny to think about the hot air balloon operator, like trying to navigate that whole situation. But I do think so far of all the one-on-one dates we've had, this was by far the best connection that Matt has had. I think so, too. I agree. I really sense a connection between Michelle and Matt James, although, like you said, it's hard to tell sometimes. He laughs at everybody. But it seemed like they had a really good time. And Michelle seems like a lovely person as well.

So I'm happy she's there. She really does. She really does. They had what seemed like a really nice conversation. She obviously got a rose. And then the second group date was just an all-out brawl. They decided to give these girls boxing gloves and put them in the ring. And it did not go well. The women on this date were all.

The varsy squad, as MJ said. They just continue to call themselves the OG girls throughout the episode. It was so cringe and uncomfortable that they just kept doing it. But they were boxing or training to box and then they actually started boxing. And they were just kind of knocking the shit out of each other where Matt James seemed like he got involved and was like, okay, enough's enough. Like they're nailing each other in the head. We're talking real boxing. Yeah.

And I had said this last night, but usually when you have a date like this where it's like, fight for my love or whatever is the date card. It's like, oh, they're putting on the sumo costumes or the gloves are, you know, way too big and they can barely lift their arms. This was, we're going to give you real boxing gloves and headgear, and you guys are going to beat the shit out of each other. And they were really trying to beat the shit out of each other. They were, because there's a lot of anger in that house. Yeah. A lot. Yeah.

It was something. They probably all had a lot of pent-up aggression that they were like, well, here's our moment. We're just going to start hitting each other. And it got to the point where Matt was like, okay, this is maybe going a little too far. And I can't, I wish I could remember, like they were all wearing head gear, so I was kind of confused on who was fighting who. But the last one, somebody really took a punch to the nose. Serena Serena P got

like it was like She might have a concussion She got hit so hard Her neck went flying backwards Like it was like okay This is Let's let's stop this Yeah

And shout out to Wells Wells was there Yeah Wells Wells Wells fills that role Very nicely as the guy Who comes in for Like physical challenges

To kind of Co-announce with Chris Harrison What was his name And he died I'm blanking Okay It's Yeah

It's been killing me ever since I made it. Oh, man. Oh, boy. I know. It's terrible. I can't remember it for the life of me. You're going to say it.

And he's iconic. And I can't remember it because I did make a joke that I can't even remember. And I had the wrong guy and I had to delete the tweet because I was like, wait a second. People are screaming this name right now. It's something like Brett. Something. No. Something with a B.

Why am I? Come on. And no, I've searched everything like the guy who used to commentate. Like, whatever. And he's in, um... Oh. Burt. Burt.

Yes. Burt something. What's his name? Burt. No. Yes. I don't think it's Burt. Yes.

I don't think it's Burt. It definitely is. No, I'm with you. It's Burt something. This is so bad. People are just yelling. It's not Burt. At their laptops and their...

Or Brent. No? Oh, my God. Oh, this is really tough. This is tough. It is. we have to get it by the end of the show because I'm not going to be able to I could do research and you guys could keep talking and then let you know when I find it.

No, I'm not going to be able to. Friends on a mission. I'm not going to be able to talk about anything else. You're going to say it. What was one of the dates? He did the long. He did a lot. He did so many.

Lauderee date the Bachelor for Pete's season. He did that one. Yeah. Oh my gosh. He's in, he's in anchorman. Yeah. He's the. Yes.

He's the anchorman guy. Well, let me look up the cast of Anchorman. That would be IMDB anchorman. I feel like we're all just trying to get it first. Yeah, who can be the first. Fred Willard. That's it. Fred Willard.

Jeez, man. Burt. Why did we think it was Burt? Oh, man. Honestly. Our apologies, that's bad. We needed to remember that. How did we forget Fred?

I don't know. I don't know. That's bad. Okay, so that's who, who was the guy who commentated the ice. bath with Ivan and Tasha like what was his name like fat billy or big Joe or something like that there was some like what oh oh he's the security guard yeah what's his name they call him Big Polly Big Polly big Polly right so I tweeted I for some reason in my head thought it was the guy from pitch perfect you know who I'm talking about and I tweeted big Polly's been around forever no no I know

that he's not big Polly but I was tweeting like Oh, it's nice to see, because I thought it was, now I'm looking up this guy's name, which is really annoying. Oh, I was like, it's nice to see John Michael Higgins reincarnate us, Big Polly. And everyone was like, John Michael Higgins is alive, Rhea. And I was like, it's Fred Willard. Yeah. I'll tell you what, I'm not going to be able to sleep after that Fred Willard thing. No, and we've talked about it.

We've said it so many times with group dates that he hasn't been able to be on. that and and well because wells has kind of taken that role it seems like of like the commentator with chris harrison they should get john michael higgins right fred willard was absolutely fantastic he was in that role and doing that during those um group dates yeah yep that was bad all around l from the group there i agree yep big time um all right the rest of the group date was once again the mean girls being mean, talking about making fun of the new girls, they're the OGs. I don't, like, sometimes I can't tell what vibe I'm getting from MJ. I'm like, I think I like her, but then I'm

not sure because she says shit where I'm like, get off your high horse. Like, that's when she was, this is the varsy squad. Like, girls are getting one-on-one days that don't deserve them. Like, it's like, okay, all right, you're, I get it. You're frustrated, but now this is a bad look and Katie was on this date and you could tell Katie was saying they're like this is this is getting bad this is we're reaching new levels where like now this is getting bad and I have to get Matt involved and she went out and talked to Matt and basically said like the bullying in the house has gotten so bad to the point where like girls' reputations could be ruined like major consequences outside of the show and he you know so she said that to Matt and we got left with kind of a

cliffhanger situation of what Matt will do with with that info that he just got. But normally snitching gets you in trouble on this show. In this case, couldn't have been happier that Katie went to Matt was like, we've reached new levels. I hope like Katie almost seems like Matt's mole at this point. Yeah, she's there. Yeah, she's there to just like help Matt out because these girls are losing their mind and he needs to hear from someone.

And it's Katie. Thankfully, Katie is the one stepping up. She is one of the only good souls on this show right now. And she is there to, I guess, kind of expose these girls. So we'll see what Matt does because it does, from the preview, it does look like we're going to see a lot of tears. I think the ones that have been saying mean shit are going to try and backtrack hard. Well, we have so many girls left right now that at some point something's going to have

to happen where a lot of girls go home or they send themselves home. like it gets to be too much. And I think this is probably the catalyst for that. You're right. Snitching usually doesn't work great on this show. But as we've been talking about, like, Katie is more, like they're friends. Like her and Matt are friends. And we had said that she'd be a great bachelorette.

Like she's going to have a great. She's making a run for it. Yeah. She's going to have a great future in this franchise. I don't know necessarily see it with her and Matt. But so I think it's going to. Riley. Riley was looking for her info on Twitter. That's right.

You had said Bachelor in Paradise because that could be a great couple. Paradise matchup. I like that a lot. I do too. So I think snitching in this case is going to alert Matt too. Because we've really got something going on in this show where it feels like there's more than one show going on. Sometimes Matt is hanging out with girls that seem really nice and great. And then most of the time it's this whole other thing unfolding in the house where now they're split into different groups, the OGs and the new girls.

And there's just all this drama happening that. It's like Matt's not even on the show. That's right. It seems like this drama that's happening. between the girls in the house is its own self-sustaining show. Yeah. And Matt just also happens to be there potentially dating a couple of them. Right.

And I don't think that's sustainable. No. And once now Matt knows about what's going on, I think it's going to get sorted out. And girls are going to start to go home quicker. And the relationships are going to start to form. And that's going to be the biggest theme of the show, hopefully going forward. Because I'm very tired of Victoria. And she seems like the main cause of all of it.

So as soon as she goes home, I think the temperatures will lower in the house and things will get back to a little bit of normalcy. Agreed. Agreed. I hope so. Because we definitely reached that point. I think now, or Chris Harris has got to come in and be like, okay, we got to cut these roses down. Like we got to give out maybe 13 roses at the next rose.

Like five girls have got to go. Like let's cut the, let's cut it to 15. We got to start breaking it down a little bit because now we're going into week five and there's still 20 women left. So it feels insane. I think Matt Jave might be the one who's like, Heather hasn't shown up yet. That's going to end up being one of those deals where she's on screen for two minutes.

Heather's going to be like the Simpsons gift. She's going to walk in and walk in. Not Simpson's family guy. No, Simpsons. I feel so bad for, yeah. Is it the Simpsons? It's the grandpa. Homer.

Oh, it's Homer. It's Homer. But I feel like there's one of family guy as well. There is a family guy too. There is. of him like Peter walks in I thought you were talking about Homer going into the tree

but I know the grandpa No but there's also the grandpa All of those work Yeah It's been such a long teasing now If she I thought she's Well now they're doing Heather dirty

Because like they already brought in five new girls And every girl lost their freaking mind So like Heather is now set up for even more ridicule Because they're going to be like Another girl girl and she's obviously been on the show before so they'll just freak out even more. I understand the ridicule towards Heather though because it's like oh Hannah Brown whose best friends with Matt James is bringing in her best friend to set them up with match. Like that's what I would think of it as because

I feel like that you know that's kind of what happened. I don't know. I feel like why Heather you know out of all out of all people so I could see them thinking about it like that. Was it made clear in the teaser that we saw Heather that she's coming in to be a contestant or could it be one where she's coming in to give advice? I think she's coming in to be a contestant. 100%. Okay. 100%.

That's wild that we have not seen her yet then. Yeah. Yeah. And then I think that basically wrapped it up for the episode. There's a couple things that I want to mention at the end, just bachelor-wise. One, pictures of Sarah and her boyfriend are all over the internet of people freaking out there saying she's dating this guy as a DJ, dating him before the show, dating him after the show. the storyline for Sarah, like the timeline is getting more and more foggy.

It just really seems like it's pretty obvious what her motives were at the time. Has she gone on any Bachelor-related podcast to clear the air, clear the story, say what's going on? Because right now I'm with you. I'm like confused about what's going on. I don't think so. She might have, but I'm not, I haven't seen her on any like the, big the main big ones so i'm not totally sure um and then this is a question for you guys did either of you see dales like insta instagram live or whatever it was statement of like

now he finally like feels comfortable coming back to instagram to like talk about the relationship he didn't really say anything like it was very blah blanket statements of like things didn't work out and they wish the best for each other and like the whole shit but i could not stop laughing when he was like, I, I finally, like, feel ready to come on here and talk to you guys about it. I'm like, it's been six days. Like, you guys just broke up. Like, you're finally ready to come on and talk about it. Like, nobody, oh, God, nobody wants to just move on with his life and be, like, influencer Dale, then Dale.

Right. That was my main takeaway where the way he view those stories and the way he signed off. He was like, he's like, well, all right, I'm moving on. Yeah. Claire's still wearing her ring and pictures in public. You are absolutely right. He is just, he is so ready for this whole thing to be over.

So he can finally move on to what he's been wanting to do. Yep. Which is just be single and Instagram. Yeah, Dale and NYC. Yeah, Dale and NYC. And I really think that he put up those Insta stories and he was like, I'm good. Yeah, like I really think that felt like, okay, this is, we're going to close this chapter and now I can move on to being a single man. I think you're right.

Yeah, yeah, pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. All right, I think that pretty much wraps it up. We'll be back next week to break down week five. And let's hope that, let's hope week five is the end of Victoria. It's got to be. She can't make it to week six. Kill her off.

She can't make it to week six. Vote her off the island. It's time. Honestly, Matt does not want her there. No. Like, this is what I'm saying. You can, Matt, the way Matt talks to, like, Michelle. and you see the way he Matt talks to Victoria.

It's like, clearly this girl is here because she has to be here. Couldn't be more obvious. She's got to go home next week. I would, that would be, that's got to happen. That's hope. All right, guys. That's it.