Chicks in the Office - Our Night at the US Open, Leo DiCaprio + Stephen Colletti Interview

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

MERCH! > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Ria's traumatic experience after the US Open (5:32-31:25). Leonardo DiCaprio & Camila Morrone split (32:57-41:37). Lea Michele attempts to do damage control (41:38-50...:29). Court rules Erika Jayne had 'no knowledge' of Tom's financial crimes (50:31-59:41). Interview with Stephen Colletti – talking his new podcast Back to the Beach, all things Laguna Beach + more! (1:01:03-1:30:46). Subscribe to our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE. Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. This is state of emergency. What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne Friend, giving you that Friday energy on a Friday. Hope everyone is ready for the weekend. It's Labor Day weekend.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Some might call it the last weekend of the summer, heading into the fall. Some might. Some might. It's September. It is September. Oh, shit. Tomorrow's my brother's birthday. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:00:40 It just hit me. Wow. I'm excited for September. Frankie's a Virgo, huh? Yeah, he is. Oh, my sister's birthday is on Saturday. Oh, really? Yeah, we had a dinner for her last night.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Wow, everybody, so many September birthdays, I'm telling you. My brother's fiance's birthday was on Monday and his is on Friday, so they're both. Beyonce's birthday's on Sunday. Happy birthday, Beyonce. Yeah. A lot of September. My friend Elizabeth is also tomorrow. Your birthday is in September.
Starting point is 00:01:05 My birthday's in September. I have, there's. there is basically like half of my New York group of gals are born in September half of us
Starting point is 00:01:18 because when we first started this podcast I did not believe you when you kept saying you had birthday dinners and I was like she always has birthday dinners like I would talk behind your back
Starting point is 00:01:29 and be like she always has birthday dinners you want to hang out and she like literally everybody I know is born in September like I my busiest month
Starting point is 00:01:38 Like, I don't get it. Like, who has had many birthday dinners? Fran. Yeah, no. My friends do love a good birthday. I just had one. We just did one this week for my friend. And so you're not having one this year?
Starting point is 00:01:50 I don't want to keep poking. I don't, I don't know. I can't take these jokes anymore. Oh, my God. I don't, I don't, um. I don't think so. The Facebook group. The Facebook group.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Remember when we used to do, like, You didn't get the Facebook invite? You didn't get the Facebook invite? Wow, Facebook invites. That was a thing, though, when we first... For everything, yeah. When we first started here, there were all Facebook invites. A few years ago, it was the funniest thing.
Starting point is 00:02:18 We forgot to send one Facebook invite to one of our, like, really good guy friends for this, like, combined birthday of my friends. And we get to the party. We're, like, an hour in, and we're like, where the hell is he? Like, this is so rude that he's not here. And we, like, texted him, and he was like, what party? And we were like, oh my God, we forgot to invite you. That's so mean. Did he come?
Starting point is 00:02:43 No, it was too. I wouldn't come. I'd be like, fuck you guys. It was too late. But he really did generally believe that we forgot to invite him since we literally texted him. Like, where the fuck are you? That reminds me of I was watching last night the curb episode when Larry goes to the funk houses and was like, oh, I thought the party was last night. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:01 And he goes to Ted dance. He's like, I thought the party was last night. Good episode. I don't know. There's like a. my birthday is a Tuesday and it's the bachelor Bachelorette finale And then like Wednesday
Starting point is 00:03:13 Thursday Happy birthday, Fran I can't believe I can't believe the both of us Have the bat Our, watch the Bachelorette on our birthdays My birthday? No, the Bachelorette wasn't on my birthday
Starting point is 00:03:22 It was the day before, remember? Oh, it was the day before. Yes. But we still, I've right, right, right. Don't worry, we're going to celebrate extra hard. Yeah, I mean, man, they really I'm gonna have a stripper.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Oh, that's why. That's why because I thought it was In my mind, I had thought oh, it is going to be the same structure when I thought it was going to be on Monday since our birthdays are both, we're both Tuesdays. So I thought that that was Our birthdays always land on the same day of the year.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah, there's probably like the math for that probably makes sense. Right. Would you welcome a stripper on your birthday in this office? For while we watched The Bachelorette? Yeah. I wouldn't, I want to be against it. Okay. We got to make it spicy
Starting point is 00:04:01 because that is going to be one boring night. Yeah. Yeah. It's the finale, isn't it? Yeah, well, so apparently they've changed the schedule. Apparently, they've changed a schedule for the Bacheloretts. Something is awry. Something is awry.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Something's going on. Because it was supposed to be Tuesday, this Tuesday, the 6th with no Monday. Keep going. Oh, you're looking at my t-shirt? Yeah. No, I'm grabbing your tits. Oh, I mean, you never know. Tuesday
Starting point is 00:04:36 It was supposed to be Tuesday the 6th Oh no It was supposed to be Monday Excuse me Monday the 5th Labor Day night And then it was going to be Tuesday the 13th And Tuesday the 20th And we're going to have two weeks of fantasy suites And then live finale
Starting point is 00:04:48 Now We got a two night Fantasy suites Monday Tuesday August 5th and August 6th And then the 13th and the 20th The two Tuesdays are two live finale Apparently
Starting point is 00:05:02 Two part finale. Something must have happened. Something must have happened. Yeah. Something happened. Who knows what fucking happened with the show, but something must happen. Something happened in like the last two weeks, I guess.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Let's talk about that at another time. All right, so they change that. But I'll, you know, I'll let you know about a birthday dinner if one pops up. Sure. As of right now, it seems like probably a no. Because it's hard to schedule my birthday is the 20th. My friend Lauren's the 21st. My friend Catherine's a 22nd.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Well, maybe we can go to. If we miss my birthday, then we kind of just have to segue right in. to somebody else's. Maybe we can go to dinner before the bachelor at finale. Yeah. And we can get a little toasty. Yeah. And then watch the show. That sounds nice. Okay. We'll do something. We went to pencil it in. Yeah. We went to the U.S. maybe. We went to the U.S. Open last night. We did. And Serena won because we were there. Yep. It was not because of all the other celebrities. No, not because of all this other celebrities at all. We were the true A-listers there. It was really awesome. Honestly, got super into it.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Cutest moment was my non-o FaceTiming me. And him just watching with a smile on his face, like just smiling from ear to ear. And then I had to hang up because he made a loud noise. There was also the cutest little family in front of us. And the little girl is probably like
Starting point is 00:06:22 five. Four or five. Five would be my guess. And she was, it's late. It's getting late. She was tired. And she had her head her dad's lap and her dad was rubbing her head. But every time like Serena would win a point or something that would happen, she'd just be laying like this and just raise her arm in the air and go, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Yeah. Yeah. Because her dad's like, let's go, Serena. And they're like, yeah, Serena. It was awesome. It was awesome. Great atmosphere. Very cool. The match was great.
Starting point is 00:06:51 The first set was insane. It was the best match to attend. So far, so far. Totally. And let me say, I learned. She's got the lingo down. game set match. I learned all the lingo for tennis.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Yeah. So whenever I play tennis with my nono, which is why we always call him a cheater, because he'll just like give points, take away, because we don't know the rule, like we don't really know the real rules. And this is also with the Italian card games that we play with him.
Starting point is 00:07:21 He knows the rules, we don't. So you never know when he's cheating or not. So I just let him count and he always wins. So I never like actually learned, yeah, the rules. of tennis. I kind of want to quiz you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:35 So if we're playing and I serve and get the point, what's the score? 15, 0. 15 love. We didn't really go into too much. Oh, okay. Like, I just know. We just went the points up. I just know it goes 15, 30, 40.
Starting point is 00:07:55 And then if they both get to the same thing, then it's a deuce, which is where the honey deuce is coming. And then if they get another point, then they have the advantage, and they have to get a double point. And it hits the net and goes over, what's that called? Don't know. I don't know those terms. More like I know the pointing.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Yes. The point, the scoring. She just needed to know, like, what's the score? Yeah. How does the scoring work? And I got that. There's six, there's six games, right? Which is one set.
Starting point is 00:08:29 It depends. Well, it depends. There needs to be at least six. You have to get six points. You have to win six games to win us. You have to win six games to win the set. I know when I'm watching it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And then the first set, you know, the first set, we had the tie break, so we got to learn about that. I got to tie break. Yeah, it was really educational. It was. I was very into it. Yeah. And men's you have to win three. Yeah, men's is three.
Starting point is 00:08:54 You win. It's basically best three out of five. And this is best two out of three. Very into it. And it was awesome. and Serena was great. The crowd was great. The atmosphere was great.
Starting point is 00:09:06 The food. Beautiful night. Great food. Great drinks. Honey deuce. How did you like the honey juice? I said, Francesco, you barely test your melons. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:13 She wasn't eating her melons from the drink. The first one was different than the second one. Oh, well, it was so packed. Like everyone, you know, how everyone's whispering about how packed it is. Everyone's like, oh, my God. Because there's the people that are always there. So they're like, oh, my God. God, it's never like this for the second round.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Everyone's complaining about how packed it is because the lines were crazy. And so the first honey deuce we got at the proper gray goose tent, whatever stand you want to call it, they give you the, that's the vodka, raspberry liqueur, and lemonade. But then I went to the second place, this bar, when the line was so crazy and the match was about to start so I didn't want to miss. of Serena so I went into a different line and it was a line just for the bar in general. You could get any drink there. And he made
Starting point is 00:10:09 you could get them there but he made them but he made them with soda. So it was it was the vodka it was just basically vodka soda with the with the raspberry liqueur. Not the same. I remember when I went last year the lady told me my friend she's like if you give me like a couple extra bucks
Starting point is 00:10:25 I'll give you two. I'll give you extra liquor. So I just kept going back to her gave me double. Wow. Very nice. I mean, they are churning those things out. Everybody's walking around with one of those. But it's such a nice setting. They have all these stores and food and vendors. It's very fun.
Starting point is 00:10:42 It was the first time, my first time ever going to the U.S. Open. I had two hot dogs and chicken tenders and fries. They ran out of sauce. No honey mustard, which I was upset by. But other than that, it was fine. They were really good. I had quite the aftermath of the U.S. Open. That you did not endure.
Starting point is 00:10:59 And I had, my legs are killing me today. So we also, we went with my friend Jen as well. Jen is my, my tennis friend. You know, she played. And so Jen and I were like, well, let's stay for a little bit because we want to watch the men's played after and the number one ranked player was playing after Serena. So we're like, oh, let's watch a little,
Starting point is 00:11:25 he's going to crush this guy, which he did. But like, let's just watch like the first set and see what happens. And the Serena's match ended a little bit after the Mets game ended. So there was a Mets game going on
Starting point is 00:11:39 so people are leaving the Mets game. And everybody, like the stadium emptied out after Serena. Everybody went home. So everyone was leaving at the same time. And Rhea was like, I got to get out of here. I'm going to leave. And we're like, okay, we're going to wait it out.
Starting point is 00:11:52 She didn't want to wait it out. So she left. I was really exhausted. Yeah. So I wanted to get. And it backfired. I had to go back to Jersey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So it wasn't like just one stop going into say, I had to go back to Jersey. So I was like, I want to get out of here earlier than you guys because you guys are just going back to the city. So I go to the train and I'm about to, I'm going to make the 1007, right? But it's so packed between the U.S. Open people and the Mets fans. And I am a Mets fan. But last night, things might have changed after that. Okay. Do they win or lose last night?
Starting point is 00:12:26 They won. They won. Okay. Well, well, trust. me they won because listen to this. Everybody's a little rowdy. So I get to the train station and before, if you've been to
Starting point is 00:12:38 City Field or Yankee Stadium, you take the train, they don't check your train tickets on the train. They check them when you get off or before you get on by train conductor standing on the platforms before. So there was no lines. It was just a cluster fuck of people. Just a club. Wherever you can get in, you had to squeeze in.
Starting point is 00:12:56 So I'm like, oh, okay, I'm squeezing in. I'm standing behind this looks like a nice couple because I'm like, they look safe. I'm alone. And I'm standing there for a good three, four minutes before I hear an old lady's voice starts screaming behind me. This girl cut me. Look up and she's pointing at me. She's pointing at me.
Starting point is 00:13:19 And she's like, this girl cut me screaming to everybody. Okay? And I'm like, oh, my God. Yes, Matt's fan. Is she in a t-shirt or a jersey? T-shirt. Okay. She's with her husband.
Starting point is 00:13:30 Okay. And they're both, they must be in their 60s. Oh, my Lord. And she's screaming and she, they got to be drunk. And she's pointing at me and I'm like, oh my God, if anyone sees me, this is so embarrassing. And so I'm like, I'm putting my head down. We got to cut her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:43 We got a cut her. She's like, she cut me and I'm like, I didn't cut you. Because I didn't. I swear God, I know how it works. When everyone's just like mush together. It's a wave of people. It's a wave of, there was no cutting to exist. There's no such thing as cutting.
Starting point is 00:13:57 No, you couldn't. There's also no cutting when you're just trying to get on the fucking L-I-R-R. No, right. No, but this was the platform before the platform. So it was like to let me. So there was no cutting. This is for the conductor to check the ticket. There was just a mosh of people.
Starting point is 00:14:11 There was no cutting existing. And the way they do it is like there's six rows where they have the metal barricades separating them. You couldn't even see it. Exactly. It's not like everyone's in a single file line to the barricade. It's a mob of people outside and then you kind of you shuffle in wherever you can. wherever you can. Wherever you can.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Yeah. So she's screaming, I swear to God, at the top of her lungs, this girl cut me. This girl cut me. I'm fucking sick of this shit. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:14:38 I was like, and I'm alone. So I'm like, how feisty do I want to be? Yeah. But I was in a mood after this. I was like, I didn't cut you.
Starting point is 00:14:46 I was just like, I didn't cut you. And she was like, no, you cut me. You cut me. I've been doing this for 60-something years and you fucking cut me. I said,
Starting point is 00:14:55 you sound pretty old. I said this. It just came out. I don't even know where that came from. It was one of those, you say something as a joke. Damn, you went with you old bag. Yeah, I literally, it just came out of my mouth. And one of those things, if I was with anyone else,
Starting point is 00:15:11 I don't know if I would have said that, but it was more like the comedic relief of the people around me. Like, maybe they would laugh, but they all were like, put their heads down. Like, we don't want to deal with this. So I was like, you sound pretty old. And she was like, I'm done. I'm done.
Starting point is 00:15:24 I'm sick of it. Like, scream your head off. Her husband goes, come on the Mets won. I guess it's offensive. To you or to his wife? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, the Mets won.
Starting point is 00:15:37 You're going to ruin the night? We got to win. Now you're going to ruin the night? Like, who cares about this? The Mets won. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? She's still screaming at me. Shoulder bumps me, okay?
Starting point is 00:15:48 Shoulder bumps me and goes, I'm going to stand in front of you because that's where I belong. I said, okay, go ahead. It doesn't matter. If I'm in front of you, you're behind me. We're not moving. They said close the gates. We're not moving.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yeah, yeah. So I'm all like, I'm like flustered at this point. Like, there's no movement. She then whittles her way up a little bit more to a few other people, starts pointing at them. They caught me. They caught me. And her husband goes, no one fucking caught you. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Fucking Christ. I was like, I literally. So then I said to myself, her husband was getting paid on this fucking bitch. And I'm like, oh my God, these two are going to get. They love each other so much. but they, one of those like couples where they scream, probably scream their heads off each other and then fucking attack each other and start having sex.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Like, I was, I wanted out. So I was like, okay, they close the gates. I'm not making this train. I see signs for rideshare apps. Yeah. I'm like, okay. I will bite the bullet. But I was like, the one time I'm taking public transportation by myself is not working out.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah. I'm going to go get an Uber. Long walk, okay? Yeah. I saw the signs Long walk to the ride chair place Yeah Now I'm going to tell a story that I didn't know if I should tell
Starting point is 00:17:04 But I'm going to tell it anyway because It's sad, whatever It also freaked me out so I walk all the way Okay long I wish I knew how long But it's a long way I show up I'm like oh my God This is a disaster
Starting point is 00:17:19 Like I have never seen Hundreds of people Hundreds of people I've never seen a ride share location like this. Trying to get Uber's. Trying to get Uber. Shit.
Starting point is 00:17:29 I call my Uber. It says two minutes. So I'm like, all right, maybe I'll see him, okay? I'm just getting really stressed out, okay? I get a call from a random number. And I'm like, this must be,
Starting point is 00:17:43 this must be the Uber. Get a call from a random number. And this woman is like, oh my God, is this chicks in the office? And I'm like, I'm like, uh, who is this? And she starts going on and on. My name is blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 You know, I creep. She got me using the word creep. I creep on chicks in the office all the time. I'm always looking on chicks in the office. I creep on chicks in the office all the time. And I noticed there was a number. I don't know how this happened. I noticed there was a number connected to the Instagram that you can contact.
Starting point is 00:18:14 So I called it and it's you. And I was like, I didn't say anything. And she goes, so anyways, I was kidnapped the other day. Let's make sure that that's turned off. It is, it is. It is. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:18:23 It is. I wouldn't tell the story. if it wasn't tough. She goes, so anyways, I was kidnapped the other day. As soon as I hear that, I hang up. Okay? Yeah. And now this sounds... I don't have time for this. This sounds awful, but a random number as I'm waiting for my Uber tells me I was kidnapped. Well, in your mind, it's also like, holy shit, and my phone number's been on Instagram. Right. I'm like how, all these things are running through my head. I'm waiting for an Uber. Yeah. I thought you were my Uber driver, so I answered. My number is public right now.
Starting point is 00:18:57 You're telling me over the phone so casually, she was so casual about it I got kidnapped the other day. I'm like holy, and now I'm terrified. So I hang up. She sends me this long message about how she is an Uber driver. She's an Uber driver.
Starting point is 00:19:13 And an Uber rider got in her car and basically held her to gunpoint. Oh my Lord. So I get this long message and now I'm like, oh my God, I'm waiting for an Uber right now. By the way, she asked, she did ask, I feel like the point of her was to spread awareness that happened, which you are doing. I am spreading awareness
Starting point is 00:19:31 that this happened. Yes. Um, like she was like, I'm not asking for anything. I just want this to be out there. And I felt, so then I look up the story because I'm like, is this fake? Like, right, right, right. I think anybody would have the same reaction where you get a random phone call. Yeah. Being like, I was kidnapped the other day and you're like, holy fuck.
Starting point is 00:19:47 And it has to do with Uber and you're waiting for your Uber and you're like, my mind was in a tizzy. So, um, I get this long message. I look it up. It's real. I feel awful now because I'm like, she just told me she was kidnapped and I hung up the phone. I just hung up the phone.
Starting point is 00:20:01 But now I'm spreading awareness that this did happen and it's awful. So please be extra careful in your Uber's and your lifts and just everywhere. Like, I feel so bad for her. But I also was like, she just randomly called my phone to tell me she was kidnapped. Like this is such a crazy thing that's happening right now. So then I felt awful after that. I was like, oh my God. I just hung up on this poor girl who was kidnapped the other day.
Starting point is 00:20:21 She's sending me this long message. This is awful. So I'm glad I'm spreading me. awareness now on that and I realized that it was a real story because there's so many stories nowadays that you hear like that's yes of like people tricking numbers and stuff they try and get your information or or just like you hear like stories of like people getting like young women to trick other young women and so I was like I didn't know what was going on I was really freaked out but I'm so sorry that this happened to this woman and you know I'm glad I'm spreading awareness now but I was
Starting point is 00:20:53 very taken aback so then I was to try to see if there's anywhere I can get by Uber. No, no, no. I bet that these people didn't get home until 2 a.m. last night because of how long. Yeah. There was no movement. Absolutely. No movement of getting an Uber.
Starting point is 00:21:09 So I say, okay, I'm going to walk back to the train. I'm going to go take the train, walk back. It was a confusing path from the ride chair back to the train. I couldn't remember where I came from. So I passed these cops. And I go, excuse me. in my nice, cute voice, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:21:28 do you know which way is the train station? Points me in one direction. I start walking in that direction. I end up across the highway. I took a picture, okay? Oh, no. I end up across the highway into a dark park.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Oh, good. Once I pass this highway, I said, I am not on my way to the transition. You're going the wrong way. Yeah. So I, this is the point where I almost broke down.
Starting point is 00:21:54 I said, get it together. By the way, at this point, I thought you were just on your way back. And I had no idea. No, I had, the only person who was hearing about any of this was Marty because I was texting him furiously, like, just venting, being like, I'm going to lose my mind. Yeah. And I was like, having talked to myself, like, you can't have a breakdown in the middle. You're alone.
Starting point is 00:22:15 People are going to think something happened to you. So just get yourself together and you walk back to the train station. So I'm walking back past the cops. And as I pass the cops, I hear another woman ask the cops Where the train is? Which way the train station is? And they point her in the wrong direction. And I said, no, no, that's not the direction
Starting point is 00:22:33 Because you just pointed me in that direction. You set me across the highway. It's actually this way. So if you want to follow me, I'm going in the right direction now. And then she goes, oh, my God. She starts yelling at the cops. She's like, oh, my God, you guys are the cops? How are you pointing this poor girl in the wrong direction?
Starting point is 00:22:47 Because she was an older lady. Yeah. And she was like, how are you pointing this young girl in the wrong direction? She's all alone. Yeah, the cops are. were frazzled and then Fair. I made it to the train and I made it home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:58 It was just on a train. It was just an hour later than the train she was supposed to get. It was so much later and I made it to the city and then Marty took my car and picked me up at Penn Station so I didn't have to go to Jersey because he was like clearly you're not navigating yourself in a way that will get you here in a peaceful... You're not great with directions. It's not that I'm not great with...
Starting point is 00:23:22 Okay, I'm not great with... directions. But more so, none of this had to do with directions is more like it was just I should have just stayed. I should have stayed at the train station. But because I was getting I should stay with Fran. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Everybody learns their lessons. Airports, train stations, they should stay with Fran. I strayed from the group, which I'll never do again. And I should have stayed at the train station but I was being heckled by a Mets fan. Yeah. And I'm a Mets fan. But I, this lady was of control. I didn't know what was going to happen next to me. I'm alone. I was like, am I going to
Starting point is 00:23:55 throw hands with this 65 year old bag. I truly was like, I think me and her are about to punch each other in the face. I called her old. I didn't mean to. I guess it. And you would have had a, come on, the Mets won. I was like, oh my God. You would have had even more of a journey, too, if you had, if you like got on the train or somewhere else or got an Uber from Penn Station too, because there was a, there was a Roger Walsh. concert at MSG last night. So when I got off the train at Penn Station, oh, there were some rowdy adults running around
Starting point is 00:24:32 outside 8th Ave, 7th Ave. They were having a great time. The concert had like just ended. Everybody was pouring out. Everybody's running, screaming to get their trains. There's a line of girls lined up, camping out for Harry Styles the next night. They're all intense.
Starting point is 00:24:47 No. This is chaos. Madness. I told them already don't even park in front of Penn Station park three blocks down. because I can't afford to not be able to find you outside the train station because I'm going to lose my mind. I walked out of Penn Station on the eighth half side
Starting point is 00:25:00 and I looked at this line of girls. And, you know, I had that time in my life where I wanted to do that. And I did it. That's no, I did it. You slept on the sidewalk? No, no, no. I just showed up really, really early in the morning for a Justin Bieber Today show. That's different.
Starting point is 00:25:22 For a today or morning show. Morning show is different. You actually do have to get there early. Yeah. When you have a ticket, like. This was, like, I stood on the sidewalk and just looked down the street for a solid three minutes just looking at what I was seeing. And I'm like, oh, my God. What's the average age of these girls?
Starting point is 00:25:42 They're young. It's young. Like, what parents are letting their kids just sleep on? No, there were some parents, you know, in the midst some places, but it's most. Mostly young girls. Out of all the areas, like, I would never sleep on TV. I know, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:25:57 And it's like, I was like looking at I'm thinking, God, they're lined up now. When is the show tomorrow? And it's just, I guess it's crazy because, you know, Re and I did do the pit for Harry Stiles. So we've experienced it. But we did it where we showed up, you know, when the gates opened. And yes, we weren't the number four person in there. But we were really close.
Starting point is 00:26:20 The difference, like, the difference. from being up against the barricade and being where we stood was also 10 feet maybe maybe how was the stage set and we could have pushed our way into the front if we wanted to you know like like 10 feet maybe and and and and and the difference between that is hours and hours and hours when you went how was the stage set up was it just like because when we went to the hair styles in l.A. you know how it was just like one stage no no it was in the middle this was set up like his show is still set up okay yeah because right now the stage is so long that you can pretty much be anywhere
Starting point is 00:26:53 and there's only like five rows of people like there's a lot of empty space in the pit which is why I don't understand why people are doing this because truly you'll be completely fine like me and Fran showed up we were like wait this is the amount of space we have also if you're we thought we were like oh well we're not camping out
Starting point is 00:27:09 so I guess we're going to be fucked and then we showed up and we're like oh my god this is amazing we're so close if you're that cutthroat that you're going to sleep on the sidewalk I would just be like show up and fight your way to the front like on the day. You could easily just get. No, no, no, no, no, no. You could push your way.
Starting point is 00:27:24 You could push your way. No. When you're, when you're there, yes. That's what I'm saying. I guess, but you'll, I mean, your head will be taken off. I'm not even kidding. It's, it's. There's always a way.
Starting point is 00:27:34 There's these girls and say like, I know someone like, I'm, no, no, no, that doesn't work. Maybe not to get the front row, but if you really want to get caught. I don't work. I've been on the other side of that where somebody has tried to push past me when I've been in that position and I'm like, absolutely. Yeah, you can. You throw up.
Starting point is 00:27:49 an elbow. You say absolutely not. And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I don't know. Like, I've, believe me, I've done it plenty of times. I saw, like, when I went the other night, it didn't look that rowdy. Like, when I went to the Tyler of the creative concert, I was like fighting for my life in the pit. Okay. Harry Styles concert, like. Very different. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. So I'm like, it didn't look like, I feel like you
Starting point is 00:28:10 could just kind of walk through the crowd. No. If you're like, they, but they, they, they give out numbers. They put it every, when you line up, like, people are giving numbers. Like, They have this whole system where they try and keep it as civilized as possible. Do you think Harry knows like the people that are in the very front have to be like the most insane people because they're here. Yeah, 100%. And a lot of it's the same people. I've seen people who are going like every night. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:28:37 A lot of it's the same people. So he probably knows them all pretty well actually at this point. Do you know where your seats are? You're going next week? Yeah. I'm not. Their seat. Is it a seat?
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah. Oh, shit. I got to try. to go. Yeah. September 7th. Yeah, yeah. Once his last show at MSG. The 21st, I think. If he does anything crazy tonight, I'm going to be mad because I was deciding between Sunday or tonight. So if he brings out, like, a guest tonight, I'll be like that. Always worried about a guest. He's always worried about the special guest. Number one, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's so wild to me. It's like, the concern is not for actually seeing the artist. It's for who could they potentially be
Starting point is 00:29:15 bringing out? He hasn't brought anybody out. I know. I know. That's why I'm like, if he does, tonight. I mean, it is funny that that is actually every concert you've gone to and you talk about, that's been like your biggest concern. I fantasize about any concert I go to, I'm like, who could they bring? I mean, instead of just being excited to see the person you're going to see this boozy. It's like, oh, Paul McCartney, like, I guess that's cool and all, but who could he be breaking out? Always want more.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Always wanted more. Beggers can't be choosers. Yeah. Yep. Does that make sense in this context? Yeah. Beggers can't be choosers. I think it does.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah. Yep. I'll say yes. Yeah, sure. Okay, let's get into the rest of today's episode. We're going to be talking about. What an intro that was. It was a lot.
Starting point is 00:29:59 For a second, I forgot we were pop culture podcast. I just thought we were just chatting. Oh, good. Thank God. We were really, really worried about your fucking haircut appointment. I'm sorry. Came off way more aggressive than you. Whenever I hope everyone, I see one of those things.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Oh, here's another, here's another warning. Whenever I joking, like talk to Noah about like that, I can't even talk. Whenever I talk to Noah in a very aggressive manner, I'm joking. I almost cut a clip. You almost can't see. We will repeat this again. Noah was not fired. Not fired.
Starting point is 00:30:31 And also when I tell Noah, he's stupid. I didn't to shut up and whatever. He laughs. I get a good laugh at him. So I know when I say it, he's going to laugh and I like to make people laugh. So by the way, nobody cry that I mean to Noah. Just seeing on the internet. People really did think that.
Starting point is 00:30:45 On the internet, more and more people think that you just, you've been fired or you quit. or you're gone. Yeah, people were texting you last night. I heard the rumors of you quitting were untrue. Like, who said you were quitting ever? People just ran with that. I hate to say I told you so, but putting just producer. I guess, but like.
Starting point is 00:31:02 It was clearly misleading. Yeah. I don't know. I wish we would have just had kept it. That would have been great. Yeah. People probably would have put two and two together when you just continue to be on this show. Or it's like, maybe it.
Starting point is 00:31:13 We would have, we would have, like, he has to do it for a few weeks. We would have had to actually kick you off the show for a while for people to believe it. Guys, imagine if I, we should have done that. Oh, yeah. Now it's like, oh, imagine I just, like, didn't have to work for three weeks. No, but if I just didn't, like, wasn't present and then people like, oh, mate, something's going on. No, they probably would have, but you're here talking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 And you're still here. So, all right. Now let's get into the topics. I zoned out. Okay, let's get into the topics. We're going to be talking about Leonardo de Capron and Camilla Moroni officially broke up. Liam Michelle did an interview where she talks about being hard to work with. and also she can't read.
Starting point is 00:31:52 And Erica Jane was cleared. She's found not guilty, shocking events. We also have a great interview with Stephen Clutty talking all things at Laguna Beach. So let's get into it. Starting off, Leoneur de Caprio and Camille Maroney. Make the most of your weekend this weekend with slick frozen ice pops. I know I have them stocked up in my fridge.
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Starting point is 00:33:12 Camilla Moroni turned 25 in June and we all know Leonardo de Caprio cannot date anybody over the age of 25 Yeah, I know we sort of touched on this on Wednesday because the Daily Mail headline came out as we were recording. But there's just been some more talk about it in the last couple of days. And the memes have been absolutely incredible. So we're going to talk about it a little bit more. But that really has been the focus.
Starting point is 00:33:35 The memes, the jokes. It's just like one of my favorite ones that I saw was it was the picture of Kate Winslet and the Titanic and then the old lady from that Titanic. And it was like Leo's girlfriend's when they're 24 and it's Kate Winslet, Leo's girlfriend's when they're 25. They're very funny. You know what I'm most upset about? That I'm now too old to date Leonardo DiCaprio. Like, not that I was ever going to.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Yeah. You've aged out. But I just have aged out of Leonardo Caprio's range. It is absolutely ridiculous. And can we just stop pretending that Leonardo Caprio is still like Leonardo DiCaprio? I keep seeing those. Like Leonardo DiCaprio, we had this. conversation.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Leonardo Caprio. He's not what he once was. He's not at all. He's not really aging as well as Brad Pitt as Brad Pitt is aging. I mean he's going to have to start dating older girls.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Like yes, it's Leonardo DiCaprio and Leonardo DiCaprio in his prime is the best of the best. Yeah. Brad Pitt, who is a lot older than Leonardo DiCaprio, is aging a bit better. he just no thoughts yeah no I agree with you I do agree with you he just Leo just has this aura I feel like I love his voice yeah somebody actually disagreed with me on that was that you where I said I love Leonardo Caprio's voice I did a little bit and you said that's actually the one thing that you don't like about him yeah it's just like a little uh it's not so it has a different tone to it in the movies sometimes it makes sense but I think it's because in Wolf of Wall Street yeah people are going to call me toxic for this
Starting point is 00:35:18 that I like the way he sounds at Wolf of Wall Street. People are going to be like, oh, classic Rio, she likes Wolf of Wall Street. It's a good movie. Everybody likes that movie. I like the way he's talking in that movie. Yeah, because he has an accent you're familiar with. Is that what it is? Probably. God.
Starting point is 00:35:39 Feels like home. Just a yelling New York accent. Just like the smell of cigarettes. Yeah. I didn't even put that together. Of all the movies you could have named Where You Love His Voice, that's the one And he's Jordan Belfort
Starting point is 00:35:55 No I feel like I don't know the voice I don't know why this sounds stupid Because obviously people's voices Are the same as Once you kind of hit maturity They don't change that much
Starting point is 00:36:11 As you get older they get a little deeper Yeah Are you gonna say that his voice is too Like his voice matched him When he was 25 And now I feel like it doesn't As much You think his voice sounds like
Starting point is 00:36:22 young boy and he's a man yes yes okay i see i actually see your point i can't really think of his normal talking voice yeah that's kind of how i see it's kind of more soft it is soft and but now the thing is there's a lot of rumors he's um he's been seen around with giji hadeed she's older than 25 she's 27 oh my god god it's also like i get it but don't if you're just a beautiful 21st 1st1 year old model out there and Leo comes knocking, don't answer the door. It's past. The thing is they're going to, Fran, if they're just, if they're single,
Starting point is 00:37:01 if you're a single 21 year old girl. You're telling me of Leonard Capia you're walking here right now and said, Hey, Fran. I just don't think it's, a taken lady. I just say no. I'm just saying it's appropriate anymore. What, the age gap? Yeah, just, not that it ever was, but like, it just feels ickyer as he gets older.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I think the more over 20 the more 25 year old girlfriends he breaks up with it gets it yeah yeah like I think if this was a few girlfriends ago people wouldn't really be like blinking an eye yeah but now Montana Montana one was so goodbye she's saying goodbye it's like when his girlfriend's brain but now that it's such a trend that he legitimately has not dated anybody over the age 25 yeah it's it's kind of just alarming it's like really like you really that's kind of creepy all right I forgot that actually last night I did take a screenshot of this of the of the graph where let's see starting in 2000 from 99 to 04 he dated joselle boonchen she was 18 to 23 and he was 24 to 29 so he was only a few years older not crazy but that's what
Starting point is 00:38:12 I'm saying as you it wasn't crazy then because he was younger and now now as he gets older yes the lyric no no it is it's a from the Jake Jolenhall lyric too The girls oh is that? No no it's a line from Daze and Confuse Or stays the same You know what I like about high school girls I get older
Starting point is 00:38:31 They stay the same Yes that was Giselle Bar Raphaelie was 05 to 2010 Where she was 20 to 25 And then that ended at 25 Blake lively popped in there 2011
Starting point is 00:38:47 She was 23 Aaron Heatherton 2012 She was 22 Tony Garn 13 and 2013, 2014 she was 2021
Starting point is 00:39:02 Kelly Warbach 2015 she was 25 Nina Ogdahl 2016 2017 2017 24 and 25 and then been with Camilla since
Starting point is 00:39:16 2018 when she was 20 and now she is 25. I don't think the man is capable of settling down. Yeah, and it's not like, it would be a lot, it would be a lot more incriminating if all of these beautiful ladies dated him until they were 25, but it's like a lot.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Sometimes they didn't even get that far. Most of them. Yeah, I think he liked, I think he liked Camilla a lot. Yeah. It's crazy. It is really, it's nuts, but. But he's apparently been partying big time out in the scene with the guys in New York. Imagine being Camilla and thinking like, I might be the one to marry Leonardo Caprio, right?
Starting point is 00:39:57 Because they've been together. That's like his longest relationship. Chiselle Bucci and they were together five years, according to that graph. I don't know who made, I don't even know who made this, but. 99 to 2004. And Barr-Rofielli he was with for five years after that. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Okay. So he just gets, he just. Yeah. It's just can't time down. We never should have thought that he would. Nope, because maybe they'll get back. Like that would be the case. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It's like, now it's like, Gigi. I mean, Gigi Adid's, that's also another interesting thing. But apparently they've been friends for a long time. Yeah, I'm sure they're friends. We're not going to be friends. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure Leonardo Caprio and G. G.D. are besties.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Yeah. So very, I don't know. That's another one. one, another one bites the dust. I saw some ridiculous page six article that was like, Nina Ogdahl may be referencing ex-Leo because she posted a story. It was just her and it's like she just wrote like when he texts you with a heart. And I'm looking at this article.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I'm like, why would they insinuate that? And then like three lines in it says, now it could be that she's just talking about her boyfriend, Logan Paul. Yeah, she's like, oh yeah. no that's probably what it is Right But it was just funny because there's like three paragraphs Three paragraphs down
Starting point is 00:41:22 It was like now she could be insinuating That this is her boyfriend No crazy that that would You would just think it was her boyfriend Can you believe Logan Paul and you and I gal are dating? Yeah it is wild So those pictures of them holding hands Walking around town recently
Starting point is 00:41:36 I don't hate Logan Paul so good for him Yeah I feel like it's not that crazy No no I just I would never I would see him more with like a Influencer type of person But he said he grew out of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:51 So, Leah Michelle did an interview, and she addressed the rumors that she's hard to work with. And she also addressed the rumors that she can't read. And I still believe both of those rumors. I believe that she's hard to work with, and I believe that she can't read. Because her answers did not suffice, in my opinion. Yeah, I just, I think she's doing a lot of damage control, which makes sense. I've read on Dumas and things like. that that she's been overly nice and things while practicing for funny girl and, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:23 going through rehearsals and all those things, uh, which yeah, that's nice that she's aware of it now. Hopefully all of these things did actually help her realize that that's what was going on. But yes, when you have quotes like, this is in the New York Times. Is this article written? Uh, they wrote online hatred of her converge on gleeful and she fears that if she responds to criticism or a bizarre rumor that she is illiterate, it will fuel the fire. Which on it, it's, that does suck, though, because she's probably asked about it all the time. And then she's like, God, if I answer this, it's going to be what everybody talks about. And here we are talking
Starting point is 00:42:58 about it. So she said, I went to glee every single day. I knew my lines every single day. And then there's a rumor online that I can't read or write. It's sad. It really is. I think often if I were a man, a lot of this wouldn't be the case. I thought off. I didn't need to play that card. But I, yeah, shut up. I mean, this is the thing. to me that's somebody who can't make a joke about themselves. Right. Because if there was a rumor that you couldn't read on the internet, that is so utterly ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:43:23 It is, but there are, you know the people, we know how the internet works. And you know that there are people who definitely believe that. Right. No, I believe that. No, I'm just saying that. You know, like people can't, sometimes people can't actually decipher it. They see that as, they're like that, oh my gosh,
Starting point is 00:43:40 Le Michelle Cameron, right. And then they take that as fact. Right. But she, that is true. Some people take facts on the internet. when a lot of stuff is not true. Yeah. But there's not that many rumors
Starting point is 00:43:49 about people not being able to read. But it's more just like a joke, like if she made a joke about herself and was like, yeah, I definitely can't read. Then I think more people would be like, oh, ha, ha, she definitely can read. Yeah. But I think she takes herself very seriously.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And so I think that's what fuels it even more. And not to say that you need to make a joke about everything to be able to defend yourself because you could just defend yourself by saying, like, no, I obviously can read. She doesn't think it's that funny, apparently. No. but that it doesn't do anything for me
Starting point is 00:44:17 it still makes me not really likely I'm not sure and I just wish that in these positions like just don't pull them if I was a man nobody would be making comments about me not being able to read because there are plenty of guys they talk about not being able to read 50 cent Conspiracy theory is about everyone
Starting point is 00:44:36 but the I just think sometimes it would go better for if you just like humble yourself own up to what happened, say, you know, I definitely made some mistakes and I wish I could take those back. But instead, when she's kind of asked about the controversy over the last couple years and when the people were talking about how she was on Glee and her cast members are coming out talking about how difficult she was to work with, all these things, it wasn't like, oh yeah, like I want to acknowledge those things. She said, uh, I have a.
Starting point is 00:45:13 an edge to me. I work really hard. I leave no room for mistakes. That level of perfectionism or that pressure of perfectionism left me with a lot of blind spots. That's fine. I think that is fair. I do think sometimes when you're a perfectionist, you can disregard other people's feelings because you're just all you care about is being the best you can be. And that can totally leave you with blind spots. But it's like you can say that. But then also add on, you know, Yeah, I definitely mistreated some people and could have been better and I wasn't. So it's still not totally acknowledging everything that went down. She said that she thinks the psychology of that comes from her days as a child actress on Broadway
Starting point is 00:46:00 where she said the expectation to perform at a consistently high level often put her in a semi-robotic state. I don't really, here's the thing. I don't really love Liam Michelle for our own personal reasons. Right, right. How many times can we tell the story? Right, but we get new listeners all the time. Yeah, yeah. Cancell in our face.
Starting point is 00:46:22 She canceled right in our face. She was standing five feet away from us. Besides a point. An interview. Yep. I don't really care about when people are like so-called divas to work with though. Like I don't think that that's crazy of a thing. Like if you're a perfectionist and you like what you like, okay.
Starting point is 00:46:38 You know what I mean? Like I'm sure she's not the most. evil person on earth. But if you're trying to get people fired and shit. Right, wait, that's evil. There's a difference. I think there's a difference between you're a really hard worker and you're a perfectionist and you like everything done the way you like it versus like you are actually a piece of shit, evil human who tries to get people fired and is mean, genuinely goes out of your way to like be maliciously mean to people. I think there's a difference. But like when someone says someone is hard to work with because they're just such a perfectionist, I'm like, well, what's the problem
Starting point is 00:47:09 with that? You know what I mean? Unless you're actually going out of your way to be mean to people. Yeah, I don't know. I think because it wasn't just one person, right? Or it wasn't two people who talked about Liam Michelle like that. I think Leah Michelle is a mean person. That's why I don't think our answers are making up for it. Because for her to say she's a perfectionist, blah, blah, blah, okay, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:47:31 But when you're an actual mean person, because you could have someone be a perfectionist and really hardworking or whatever. But at the end of the day, they say thank you to everybody and go out of their way to be nice to everybody around them, even if in between all that, they're being a perfectionist. You have to be self-aware. If you're a perfectionist, you've got to know that you're like that. And then say, you know, I'm sorry, I'm being a perfectionist. Thank you. But this is how I like it's done.
Starting point is 00:47:54 This is how I need to be done. Whereas she just seems like she's just not nice. Yeah, let's not forget. When this all happened, you know, a couple of years ago, Heather Morris did tweet that she was very unpleasant to work with on Glee. And she said, for Leah to treat others with the disrespect that she did for as long as she did, I believe she should be called out. So it's like there's times when you have to acknowledge what happened. And you can say that she has acknowledged her or tried to. And I do think, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:18 it's not, it's something that took on a life of its own. And she apologized for that behavior when it all happened. But now when you have taken on a new role, you're back on Broadway, funny girls are going to be huge. Tickets are selling out like crazy. People are excited. Just you got to continue to just be self-aware. and own up to things you did. It's almost like Liam Michelle thinks she's the first actress ever to work hard.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Because think about how many other actors and actresses out there take their craft so seriously and they live and die by it and they want to be the best of the best and everyone acknowledges that their perfectionist and hardworking.
Starting point is 00:48:58 But then at the end of the day nobody's saying like have you heard how hard these. Some people you hear that they're hard to work with because you hear stories and they're like oh that's mean. Like there's a difference. So for her to be like, you know, there's blind spots because I'm just a perfectionist.
Starting point is 00:49:11 It's like, right, my blind spots being an asshole. Yeah, like that's exactly. So basically you're saying every actor-actress. Yeah. Doesn't work as hard as you. Like on Top Gun, that clip came out of him like yelling like at everyone. Yeah, but then nobody's saying Tom Cruise is so hard to work with. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Exactly. Because it just, I think, Lee and Michelle is self-over-self. Yeah, there's just a, you know, and like you said, there is a diva stigma that sometimes I think people unfortunately get and it's not deserved because they take that as in a negative way when it's not, it's used in a negative way when it's really just like, no, they're being, they're working hard. Like they're, they want what they want. They're working hard. And you, it's the same kind of thing like Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise gets what he wants. he asks what he wants. People aren't like, oh my God, Tom Cruise diva.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Like, it's like, no, Tom Cruise, he's working. But Liam is, I just wish that there were times when you just acknowledge, don't just say, I just have blind spots. I just work hard. I just have blind spots. So, I don't know. It's funny girl with her as a lead is going to be a massive success. People are going to go see that show 100%.
Starting point is 00:50:34 She is massively talented. but she still can't read. Yes. Yes. Big development for Erica Jane. It looks like one case. I don't know. This stuff is so confusing to me when it gets
Starting point is 00:50:52 down to like the actual nitty gritty and there are great Bravo lawyer accounts that break this down. But I feel like when I'm watching Beverly Hills or Erica's always like, I've got 50 million lawsuits going on. Like there's so many different ones. So it's like, oh, how many are still going on, how many are not. But there was a, quote, unquote,
Starting point is 00:51:12 big win for Erica this week because the tentative court ruling suggests that she had no knowledge of alleged financial crimes by her estranged husband, Tom Girardi. There's also another article that Tom had bought the judge, the female judge that he was with or bought her at condo or something that Erica did not know about. So the courts. concludes that the plaintiff suing Erica for aiding and abetting her estranged husband in alleged fraud failed to prove that the star had any knowledge of the alleged crimes. Documents obtained by people through Erica's lawyer state that no evidence exists to support an aiding and abetting claim against Ms. Girardi, which reinforces the propriety of summary judgment.
Starting point is 00:51:59 As the ruling is tentative, a final status conference for Erica's judgment is scheduled for Friday. People reach out to the plaintiff's lawyer for comment on the time. Intentive ruling but received no response. So in this case, this is a thing, like, it's all lawyer talk, right? When it comes down to aiding and abetting, they can't find any physical evidence to prove that in a court of law. Which does make sense. That would be pretty hard, I think, to actually find hardcore evidence of that. which I'm sure Erica Jane has been banking on.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Exactly. You could hear it from word to mouth, though. Totally. She could hear whispers or phone conversations or things like that, but the actual, to actually try her on these charges, I don't think they can do. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:56 I think she had her suspicions. She may have heard a couple phone calls, heard a couple conversations, kept herself because she's rich. Right. And her husband was giving her money. And she said, why am I going to
Starting point is 00:53:07 Why am I going to jeopardize my lovely life By opening up in my mouth I'm going to get this money Honey She posted a screenshot of the page six article That said Erica Jane Scorns win In $5 million fraud lawsuit Court finds no evidence of Ron doing
Starting point is 00:53:21 And she wrote thank you to my friends That have stood beside me All I asked for was time and understanding Link in my stories So she was making sure everybody was reading that article But like I said there are other cases. People also wrote this news comes after Erica was named in a handful of lawsuits
Starting point is 00:53:39 alongside her estranged husband for alleged embezzlement. However, there's been no public proof linking Erica directly to the alleged wrongdoing. So, like you said, this is one of, I think, many cases that she has been named in, but in this situation, $5 million fraud case, no link. can be made. So she's definitely very happy. Let me ask you both a question and more no, I'm looking for your answer because I know, I feel like I know what France answer is going to be.
Starting point is 00:54:12 Say you had a very wealthy, very, and now I'm talking wealthy, rich, rich, rich, significant other. You're married, okay? Super wealthy. You're living the fucking life. Like her family. No, you, like them.
Starting point is 00:54:25 No, I'm saying like, is her family wealthy or she's like independently? She's independently wealthy. And you get money from her. She gives you all anything you want in the entire world. Do I have a job? No. You can do whatever you want. Okay?
Starting point is 00:54:39 You can live your life. Truly, you are one of the richest people. You can do whatever you want. Do we have a pre-knap? I don't know if that matters. We'll decide after. And you are hearing suspicious conversations, right? And you're hearing rumblings that they may be up to illegal activity that is giving them
Starting point is 00:55:02 this money. Are you asking any questions or are you keeping your mouth shut because you're living the life? You may not even like this person. You may be living a totally separate life from them, but you are very, very, very comfortable. No is ignoring that 100%. Well, I think that's why I ask you, because I know you, I know you're going to say you would ask. No, but if you know, if you don't know, then you can't get like legally, I don't know anything. That, well, here's Erica Jane saying I don't know anything because working to her advantage. You know that series on Netflix
Starting point is 00:55:35 like untold about sports? I just watched last night the one on the referee who was illegally. Yeah, yeah. And his wife said that she went into his room like,
Starting point is 00:55:44 and like found a huge wadded cash in his jacket and just like put it back and didn't ask questions because she didn't want to know. Yeah. And then eventually got caught. Sometimes that's for you, like you said,
Starting point is 00:55:55 it's for your own self-protection. I have, I have a problem with just needing answers. Like it would drive me insane. I'm just neurotic like that where if I even saw a hint of something, I'd be like, well, what does that mean?
Starting point is 00:56:09 What does that mean? What does that mean? Like, I'm just, I'm nuts. Like, I would not be able to... I think I'm the same way. I would not be able to handle the unknown. It would drive me insane. Same.
Starting point is 00:56:18 Especially if I'm in love. Yeah. Like, if I'm in love with this person, I need to know everything about you and every detail. Especially if I got hit with like a honey, don't ask questions. I'd be, well,
Starting point is 00:56:27 what do you mean? What are you? What are in this relationship together? It would be more about the principle of you're not going to tell me that you're doing this. Right. Yeah, exactly. So what else are you hiding?
Starting point is 00:56:36 Are you cheating? Yeah. Yeah. They just lead. There's so many other questions. Yeah. Now in this case, you know, Tom was an old old man. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Erica and Tom were not in love. They didn't have a real relationship, in my opinion. They were not. It wasn't a true relationship. It was like, it was like, okay, we got married and now we're living totally separate lives. And so I don't even fucking care with this guy does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I don't even care with this guy does. But let's say that they told. they told you and then what would you do with that information keep my mouth shut you wouldn't go to the police no so then so i wouldn't go to the police but i would tell them they should stop let's say that he gets caught and like a year later something are you saying i didn't know anything or now unfortunately in that situation you you're going down too you're probably going down you're teresa judice like you're also going down but as long as all he did was like verbally tell you no it's still very it's still very hard to prove
Starting point is 00:57:30 in a court of law unless Teresa Judez is different because her like signatures was on short right right don't sign anything yeah no like text about it I wouldn't I'm not a snitch I'm not gonna go or rat my husband out to the cops yeah but I'm not gonna be happy with him you don't know how far the investigations go and maybe your house has been bugged what about
Starting point is 00:57:48 I may I may I may I may ask him for a divorce I may say if you're if you're so capable of hiding all this from me. You are hiding other things and I don't know if I want to be in this relationship. You should say it's fine then ask for a divorce. Get money and divorce before he gets caught. Erica filed for divorce before all this shit happens.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Oh, I don't know. Right. Yeah, yeah. So that's I'm saying like, I think I'd be like. So it was like that's what that's why people thought that she knew something. I'm not going to tell on you, but I'm going to do. I don't think we should be together. Blackmail. Here's the thing. I think we're in a situation where I I still believe that Erica had an inkling of something happening, which is why she divorced him. And she turned a blind eye,
Starting point is 00:58:31 and now she can get away with it because there is no hard physical proof. I'm sure with her closest, closest friends, she probably says, yeah, I knew something. You need to tell somebody that you knew something. And you need very concrete proof to convince a jury that you do know something. If a friend of a friend says, Erica told me she knew something,
Starting point is 00:58:53 it doesn't do anything. It doesn't do anything. or if people, if you just have people in the witness stand who say, she seemed like maybe she knew something. Like, that's not, that's not going to work. And then you wouldn't get nearly, like, you wouldn't get as much trouble as he isn't. So, like, no, no, no, I mean, for reason Judey didn't get as much trouble as Joe.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah. So, like, what would you have to jail? But, like, yeah, for how long, like, how long do you go to jail if you just knew your husband was doing illegal things? I mean, it's all, it's all, yeah. There's not, like, a standard. It depends on what the charges are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:26 All right. Well, hopefully none of us get into any of that. No, no, definitely not. But I think I have a feeling we're going to see a really righteous Erica Jane on incoming Real Housewives of Beverly Hills sees another season. Obviously, they're done with filming this season. But I don't think they filmed the reunion yet. So that'll be a big moment for her to be able to say, I told you all. I should might get in trouble for not doing my jury duty because I still have been ignoring this.
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Starting point is 01:01:08 That's spelled R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com for 20% off with the code Chicks. All right, everyone, we are here with a very special guest. We are joined by Stephen Coletti. Thank you for joining us, new podcast, Back to the Beach, talking all things Laguna Beach, which is just great for us fans out there that love to reminisce and get the juicy inside scoop to really what was happening during those days. Welcome back to the show, Stephen. Thank you. It's good to be here, guys. Thanks for having me on. And I'm glad to hear that you're
Starting point is 01:01:43 enjoying the podcast because, you know, we really, we didn't know, we thought some people would be interested, but we were hoping that people would be able to enjoy it, kind of have another experience with maybe what they watch back in the day. But it's also, it's been so much, many years. So I was feeling so much TV has come between now and them. It's like now and then where it's like, are they really going to be interested in listening to us? Tell the story of our high school life and 18 years ago. Well, I guess so. They are interested because it was such a unique experience for you guys, you know, like regular. Because it was one of the first shows like that, that so many fans rewatch. And I think so many fans now also look at what's on reality TV now. And,
Starting point is 01:02:25 and they say and they think like, oh, God, I wish we could just go back to the Laguna Beach days. Right. So I think people do have that feeling of like still so being so connected to that show. Yeah. There was this like early on, I think, I've always, even when the show first came out, it felt like, you know, no one's actually going to watch this thing, right? So it's, it's fine. MTV is going to, like, throw some parties for us. Maybe we'll get like a couple hotel suites and like it'll be on their dime.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Like, we're pulling one over them, right? little did we know but um yeah it's funny that even still going through the episodes and we enjoy kind of picking apart you know what is totally real and what is really kind of edited but you do see what these days in reality tv i can't even really watch reality tv because to me it seems so fake and of course i had like this crash course that is you know uh shocking in it in its own way so it maybe there's that where it's kind of painful to watch in a way but um you know there's still yeah these days it's just a lot of it is I feel like really really manufactured and I think people are wise to it now so I can understand the appeal of something that was more nostalgic and and pure right yeah yeah exactly and I feel like
Starting point is 01:03:37 what's funny is when you watch back it feels like you guys were so much older than you really were so to hear that you guys were and to know that you guys were in high school when we were watching it we were like wow these are full grown adults but then when you get older and you look back and you're like oh my god i can't imagine if my however old self was being filmed on tv you guys are drinking you're partying and it's just the the world knows about it and can see it i mean were you guys partying in high school yeah absolutely but i'm thinking about if if i had cameras on me how much trouble i would have been yeah we do discuss that a lot i think um yeah we i don't know we we we knew that well look it's not very it's not discussed of course on camera that we're drinking or anything
Starting point is 01:04:23 but it's pretty obvious. It's just kind of a given. But yeah, there's, I mean, Kristen talks a lot about, like, she was always really nervous of her dad's reaction to it. I'm the third child for my parents. So I think at that point, they're like, all right, just get yourself to college. Same. But yeah, Kristen, I remember was really worried about a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 01:04:41 And, you know, thankfully parents, I think, you know, they're strict. It's our senior year at that point. You kind of have a little bit of a longer leash. But, yeah, there were a couple things where it was my parents like, oh, so that's what you were doing that night. And, you know, it's like, they know we're going down to Cabo. It's like, all right, well, we know you're not going to just go down there and sit on the beach and tan for a couple days. We know it's going to have it.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yeah, you turned out all right, though. I mean, I hope so. I think we're still going to figure this out in the podcast, right? We'll see at the end of it. It remains to be seen. I loved hearing you guys talk kind of how it almost seemed like Kristen needed a little bit more convincing to, to, to, to, to, to, to, you guys. talk kind of of how it almost seemed like Kristen needed a little bit more convincing to do this that maybe you had this idea years ago because the rewatch podcast is very in right now.
Starting point is 01:05:32 Everyone's doing it. It's super popular. And what did it take to finally get her to agree to do this? You know, it's funny, it almost really actually didn't happen at all. And we haven't even really told the story, but we just briefly talked about it. And again, for years, I had been thinking about it and wanting to do it. And with really the only intention being like, I just want to know what's in those episodes. I don't remember much. You know, I totally locked them away. There was no like, I had no real bone to pick or anything. I knew that there were certain moments like, of course, like with Cabo and stuff, we're like, oh, this is going to be tough to watch. So I knew I had to sign up for that. But I was okay with it. I'm so much older now and you're so less emotionally attached to that time in your life where you can really laugh and appreciate like, oh my gosh, I've come so far. Thankfully, and I'm still here, you know. So I think in talking about it with Kristen, we briefly touched on it and she seemed interesting the idea. She right away, she was like, well, I do a podcast with you.
Starting point is 01:06:32 It could be really fun. I was like, cool. And then we taught. And it was like, honestly, that wasn't passing. And then it wasn't until almost like a year later. a COVID canceled trip to Australia to promote everyone is doing great. I was like, what am I going to do for the next few weeks? And it was just one of the first things on the list where I was like, let's just try to make this happen right now. Maybe this is a good time. So I hit up Kristen and she was like,
Starting point is 01:06:54 I don't know. I kind of got a lot of things going on right now. And I was like, yeah, I understand. Like I do want to keep it limited though. We don't want to go into it too far. She's like, yeah, I'm just like kind of really busy right now. And then I actually called her like an hour or so later to literally just kind of catch up. And I already kind of accepted that she, all right, she can't do it right now. Let's just have a little chat. And I just want to see how she was doing, right? And we started talking about the podcast right away. And she was like, I just, you know, maybe if it's like really only certain, something limited. And I was like, oh, wait, so she does want to do it. I'm like, okay. So we kind of like from there continue to kind of chat it out and say, yeah, let's just,
Starting point is 01:07:29 you know, we want to get in, be bold, get out. We're not trying to do 200 episodes of this podcast. And we'll just see how it goes. So from there, yeah, we got on the same page and found a partner in Dear Media that was on the same page. And, you know, I know she's mentioned it. And I am also very happy that we've done it. It's been a really fun experience being able to do it. Yeah. Thankfully, there's not that many episodes of Laguna Beach.
Starting point is 01:07:55 Right. Yeah, right? Is the plus side. Like, we just had some of the cast of Boy Meets World on our show. And they're doing a rewatch pod. And Daniel Fisional was like, well, there's like 200 plus episodes to watch. which is crazy when you have that many seasons. But Laguna Beach really just had that.
Starting point is 01:08:16 It was a short amount of time. It hit really hard. Right, because then it went right into the hills after that. And I think with you and Kristen, obviously there's always going to be that draw there where people are holding on to that. And they're like, oh, we want to watch them interact. And listen, I don't know exactly what happened.
Starting point is 01:08:31 You just see headlines. And you're like, oh, it's been revealed that they shared a kiss before the podcast and whatever it is. And you're like trying to gather all this information. but this may be a weird question and you don't need to answer it whatever. I don't even know if it's that weird. But did you feel like, okay, in order for us to do this podcast, we need to make sure there's nothing romantic going on here. There's going to be no, no fling that's happening so we could just focus on this work. No, we've been buddies. You know, our time came back in 2004 and everything. It's been good buddies who get to laugh about the past. So, yeah, no, it was nothing like that at all. Yeah. And we just, it's been a really good work and we're just, it's been a really good work and, relationship together. So yeah, it's all good. Yeah, the fans really hold on to it. I know. And then you're like, guys, because then as a rational fan, you're like, that was so long ago. Like they were in high school, guys. Like they're not the same people. Like you grow up and you grow out of these things and then you
Starting point is 01:09:26 could be friends with somebody you dated in high school. It's very normal. Yeah, Kristen did a Q&A recently that I think somebody had asked her that too. It was like, you guys have such great chemistry. She's like, yeah, we've known each other. That's what happens when you know each other for 20 years. Like you have good chemistry. All that bullshit behind us. And I think it's also makes for a unique opportunity with the show to be like, it's one thing to have your high school life taped for cameras, you know, when you're 18 years old.
Starting point is 01:09:50 But how about going back 18 years later with your ex from the show and going over it? But like we have all, we're so emotionally past everything that happened to us back in the day. And it's moved into that like, oh, what a sweet, innocent time in our life, you know? So that it's, it almost works perfectly for this because we can go over everything. We can take the piss out of it. We can give each other's shit. And there's just nothing else there. So it's good to have that.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Right. And those moments are now, they probably seem so miniscule to things that happen later in life when you become an adult. And there's some big deal in high school. There's some big things that happen. And then you look back to the high school shit and you're like, huh, I am wondering why I got so mad at that. But at the time, it seems so big. You would think so. But a lot of people keep reminding me of certain moments that happened because of the TV show.
Starting point is 01:10:38 So I'm like, oh, shit. shit, I really fuck that up. What an asshole I was. I was 18. Yeah, yeah. I know, I know. There's only so much of, you know, oh, wow, I was such a kid, you know, back in the day. I can really say at the end of the day, I still, I did some dumb shit.
Starting point is 01:10:53 And I will be the first to say it. And it is right there for those cameras on MTV. So, but yeah, look, we knew we were signing up for something. But, you know, be able to have, I think, the innocence and naivety of kids that are, you know, we were looking forward to an opportunity. Like I wanted to work on TRL. That was a goal of mine from before MTV coming around. I wanted to host. And so it was like, all right, we knew we'd get some connections here. But really what you see, I feel like today with a lot of people leaning into trying to be famous and like they've got the full agenda. And, you know, I totally get
Starting point is 01:11:26 it if that's their thing. But back then we were just kind of like, oh, this will be fun. Like, we're going to get some free trips from MTV, some free opportunities. And like, you know, that's just going to add to this more fun, like, let's have fun at this point in our life. Yeah. Yeah. Then no social media at that time. And that way, the way it is now. So it's like, oh, so many people.
Starting point is 01:11:45 I think that also ties into what you were saying about how some reality TV now feels so curated because these people are just using the show as a way to gain the Instagram followers and then make that their career instead of, you know, just doing a little TV show. I'm trying to think because obviously Laguna Beach, the Hills. it was truly you guys were on TV and you weren't we didn't go to Instagram and Twitter to go find your guys' handles and follow everybody and then I think Jersey Shore I think was probably the last bit of that and it was a cuss
Starting point is 01:12:24 because I know Twitter was around but still that was genuine and then it kind of turned into people were going on reality TV because they realized the social media following they can get and then you look back at those reality shows and they were all high quality reality shows. The Hill, I mean, the Hills is, I love the Hills, but we know how fake the Hills was. Yeah, that was a different.
Starting point is 01:12:47 It's funny how over the years, how much it's blended and actually discovered, it's weird. Towards the end of season two in Laguna, you've got, Wirtallin basically dropped out of high school and moved up to L.A. And so he's hanging out with some of the kids in L.A. that wind up being on the hills. You've got, I think Frankie Delgado is there. Like there's an episode in Laguna and Heidi's already friends with Lorna at that point from when they met at Fittam. So because over the years it was like for me, it was like, all right, moved on from Laguna. And yeah, I came back and did one episode of the Hills where I took Lorna out to dinner.
Starting point is 01:13:20 But I was really trying to separate myself because I wanted to get into acting. And it's always been really funny where people are like, you're the dude from the hills. And I'm like, no, Laguna Beach. Yeah. Right. And one tree hill. Yeah. But they've totally blended together between the hills and Laguna.
Starting point is 01:13:36 and at some point I just had to accept it, but I kind of looked at them as something very, to me, it's very different because you had these kids that actually went to high school together, and then you have these kids up in Hollywood that were brought together. And it's just such a different world. But it really is interesting how they all blended together.
Starting point is 01:13:53 And, but yeah, seeing them on the show at the very end of Laguna, I was like, that's something. I was like, oh, okay, this really adds to why it's so easy for people to just sit all like, oh, well, the kids from the hills are also, you know, engaged with the kids from Laguna. And then Kristen comes on, later on in the Hill. So I think that's why. But I'm sorry if you guys have talked about this before,
Starting point is 01:14:11 but I think people are interested on how you guys were even approached to do a reality show when you were in high school. Like, you know, who did MTV have to go to to get that started? Yeah. So they were, I think they were trying to do something in LA for a little while. And then somebody, and I know they say they say they had the idea before the O.C. came. out. But I think it, I think as people started to float around where they weren't really finding the area in LA that they wanted and the OC started to air, like, let's go look down in Laguna or in Orange County. And they found, you know, Laguna and started looking there. And yeah, early on, it was through our school. It was at the high school. And rumors were honestly flying around
Starting point is 01:14:56 for months, if not, maybe a year. I remember it was around for a long time. And then all of a sudden one day, they showed up in like January. And they had, you know, everyone was. was filling out packets and some producers were there at break and lunch. And yeah, they just got a little information on everybody. And then they started bringing people in, getting more information, more details. And then that weekend was the Super Bowl, the performance with Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake. We had an or Joe malfunctioned. That was an MTV production. So for some reason, that's what was eventually the last flag for like the parents and the teachers association, if you will that the school board would be like actually you know what MTV maybe we get off campus you know
Starting point is 01:15:37 and so they had already met everyone but that's why you never see any of our high school or anything is because you know eventually the school I think after that production was like you know what maybe this is a bad idea and kicked them off campus meanwhile you know the kids that had already met everyone they'd already met all the kids yet we were all already on board so from there yeah it just they shot a lot of people they shot a huge you know man just just hours and hours of footage for like two weeks and then cut it all down and then they brought a few of us in with our parents to this suite at the St. Regis and Dana Point, I believe it is, and showed us a little presentation. This is not the pilot that eventually ended up on MTV, but this was the pilot
Starting point is 01:16:20 presentation for the parents. They made it look nice to the parents. They made it look like, oh, look at these wholesome kids in high school. I know. And then, you know, to my shock, the first episode, it's like me just straight up, like, in this like full-blown love triangle, cheating on these girls left and right thinking I'm getting away with it. And I remember watching that first episode like, oh, fuck. What did I get myself into? I can't even imagine if they brought the cameras into the school. It would have just been chaos. I know. I don't even, it would have been, it would have been probably a lot of like food flying through frame. Like, kids are so weird in high school. Could you like what's going on? Like, what? How would
Starting point is 01:17:00 would actually be able to shoot something. It would probably have to be after school. But the idea of a camera being in the corner of a classroom while Mr. Olney's teaching me Econ and the rest of my senior friends are just going to let it slide. Like, fuck no. I'm going to get crushed. We already got crushed around Laguna. They saw me sitting outside of Cafe with Lauren. I think this is this actually happened. One of my first time shooting a scene, a couple buddies I drove by and, you know, all the windows were down. They were hollering all sorts of things I can't repeat now. But yeah, they were laying into me, which was pretty fun. What I have found so interesting, too, when you guys talked about it in your kind of intro episode,
Starting point is 01:17:42 which is where you were talking about all this stuff, too, is that you then just went to college. And the show wasn't on. And you're just a freshman trying to fit in and make friends. And now all of a sudden you're the star of Laguna Beach on an MTV reality show. how did your peers see you in college at that time? Because I remember you said something, you had to move dorms. You moved dorms later.
Starting point is 01:18:08 I was on the waiting list of the dorms. So MCV actually got lucky with this because I first stayed in Trey, who's on Laguna, his parents, condo in downtown San Francisco, which is a very beautiful place. And no college freshman deserves to be living there. But they were kind enough to let me live in it for a month until I got off the waiting list. classic high school procrastinator over here.
Starting point is 01:18:30 I signed up for the dorms a little late. And so MTV got to shoot there. And of course it looks like me, this kid from moving to Beach going to, here's his condo that he's living in for college, which is not the case at all. And I got in there and I had my friend go and check out who my roommate was, seem like a cool guy. And I was like, all right, it seemed like it's all good.
Starting point is 01:18:50 And I walk in to meet my roommate. And he's like, holy shit, dude. Are you on the, are you on the? Are you on that Laguna Beach show? And he immediately goes to his computer, like, brings up, like, the little MTV website and just the smallest little profiles they have on everybody. And he goes, no fucking way. What the fuck?
Starting point is 01:19:08 It's so random. I can envision this. Yeah. And he was like, what the, like, how the, he just, like, wants to know everything. And then from there, you know, with other groups of friends, they were like, how does this all happen? They want to know, is it, how did this happen? Is it real?
Starting point is 01:19:22 And I'm like, it's complicated. Like, everyone's sit down, I grab a drink. Alex try to explain it all to you. But then from there, we had some pretty fun little watch parties where they wanted live commentary as the episodes aired, which we did. And sometimes I was seeing him for the first time. And I remember like, you know, the prom episode, they show like Chris and I kind of going in this hotel room. I was like, oh shit. Like Kristen's going to hear it from her dad on that one.
Starting point is 01:19:47 That's not good. Like he's going to be in a lot of trouble there. And so they definitely enjoyed that. But the funny thing was, you know, Ryan sat and. was my roommate. And he, the time he was working on acting and maybe he wanted to become an actor,
Starting point is 01:20:01 but he wound up switching gears and he wound up working for TMZ. And he's now a host for wrestling for Fox Sports, does some stuff for them. But it was kind of funny. We kind of did this 180 where I thought I was going to maybe do hosting
Starting point is 01:20:16 and, you know, work on that side. And then he was going to act and we kind of did this 180 after school. But it was just, yeah, random who I got paired up with. But we had a good time in college. Thankfully, I had a good group of people that took care of me because there were a lot of knuckleheads, of course, that would just want to kick my ass because I was on TV. Right. So going to parties was always a little bit of a difficult situation, but good group of kids that I'm always grateful for.
Starting point is 01:20:41 That's awesome. That sounds like you had a good experience because it could have went the other way where nobody wanted to be your friend. I know. I know. And I honestly went to school there. They're going like, all right, everyone's going to USC. People are going to San Diego. go, this is what you do from Southern California. I want something new. I want like a new experience.
Starting point is 01:21:00 Yeah, didn't really think that one all the way through. It's different now because I'd imagine, and I'm not 100% sure, but, you know, we talked like she mentioned, the Boys Meets Worldcast and talking with them and how they were treated at school and, you know, some people picked on them. Now I feel like if you have a following or whatever it is on TikTok and then you go to college, like don't you feel like now those people, obviously there's going to be jealous? kids, but majority are going to want to be like, I want to hang out with that person because then they want the followers. It's a different game now, I feel. Yeah, it's, I actually would think it's pretty split because kids can still be mean. Yeah. So I'd imagine that like if you do have a following,
Starting point is 01:21:42 you could get really picked on. Like the jealousy part of it will take over, but then there's going to be the other part of it where people want those followers too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or is there's so much pressure with that these days. I mean, I even at my age, you feel it away in extent of, you know, in this industry, like, you know, are you doing enough online with social media? And I can only imagine when you're still trying to form your brain, you know, at 18 years old and going to this big new chapter of your life, we were really going to grow up the most in college. And, and I mean, I was actually, so my girlfriend just took me to her school down in Clemson. And we were there. It's kind of middle of August. And they would already, they were doing, I guess,
Starting point is 01:22:19 guess what it's called Spirit Week. And so there were some sororities really kind of like drumming up the noise. And like they talked about where they're like they were on their one hour break where it's understood that everyone's going on social media and talking about like what's going on on campus with their sorority. And so it feels like to what you're saying like I think that there's, you know, I'm sure that's a big part of recruitment for going into these, you know, college sorority fraternities and whatnot. That's crazy that they have a lot of time. Like, all right, everyone. Time to post. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:49 Post. Post in time. Oh my gosh. You know what we do. Here's our hashtags. Here's our tags. Make sure you do it. That honestly gives me the shivers. I mean, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:23:00 You've seen hashtag Bama Rush. No, I've seen it. I've seen it and it scares the shit out of me. I say it all the time. Oh, man. But Stephen, how much time was in between college for you and one tree Hill? So I went to, uh, I immediately. I did a year of college and then I started doing more hosting stuff with MTP.
Starting point is 01:23:23 And I got the gig to host TRL a little bit. And so I was going back and forth between L.A. and New York for about a year and a half. And at that point, it was actually doing the hosting. At that point, I was like, you know what? Like, there's something about acting. I'd done a little bit as a kid in middle school and always kind of found it interesting and wanted to just dabble. if it was something I'd kind of catch on to. And so I started taking some classes in L.A.
Starting point is 01:23:53 and I really kind of got the bug and just was like, all right, let me just try to consume as much as possible on this. Really was not interested actually in hosting anymore. I really wanted to focus on acting. So to me, you know, I had worked on a movie. I got a, I got to took, you know, I kind of stayed off of auditioning for a little while and it was like, all right, I need to study for a few months. And then we'll kind of, we'll take it from there. And after about a year of I landed a movie in Providence, Rhode Island called Normal Adolescent Behavior. It was great cast. And Hillary Burton was actually in that movie as well.
Starting point is 01:24:29 And I met her and spoke. And we had this crazy, these backgrounds. She was like, you work on TRL? I worked on TRL. And I was like, what the fuck? I didn't even know. What are the chances, you know, we come across each other. We both didn't know that we worked on TRL.
Starting point is 01:24:41 And she's talking about this show, One Tree Hill, that she's shooting down in this cute little, you know, Carolina town called Wilmington. and the life that she was living down there. I was like, oh, that's an awesome, you know, sounds like an awesome experience. And from there, the show just kept popping up. It was weird. We had some guests on from, I think Chad Michael Murray was on for an episode
Starting point is 01:25:02 when I was out there for TRL. And then I'd see it at like my hotel or my turn on the TV and ran on and be on and be like, what a work on this show. And then an audition came up. And in the audition, the character talks about Laguna Beach and says something about like, oh, those spoiled kids from Laguna or something,
Starting point is 01:25:18 which I kind of a little bit of, But I was like, we're not all spoiled. That's what MTV put out there. It's not everyone's just like. I remember that line. And I had always thought it was on purpose because of you. Well, that's what, here's the thing. There was that, that character didn't work.
Starting point is 01:25:33 And then that was later on. So I went up auditioning for them. And we're going in a couple times. They're like, oh, he was seated for that auditioning, have him come in and stand up. And I could tell it was like, oh, they're putting me through it because the kid from the reality show. It's like, Kenny asked, you know? You're the spoiled kid from a movie. Goona Beach. I know. I know. Let's put it. I just give this to him, right? And, uh, and then they're like, you know what? They're going in a
Starting point is 01:25:55 different direction with the character, but they really love you. Hopefully, I'm like, well, I don't know. I'd love to work on the show. And it wasn't too long after that. They called me in for another role audition process again. And then we booked it. And I was so happy. I was like, this is the show. I did, I really wanted to be on the show. And from there, uh, it continued on, uh, thankfully. And, and, um, yeah, there was a line down the road there where they asked me. They're like, all right, we want to make a Laguna reference here. How do you feel about it? I was like, let's do it. We got it. So, yeah, a lot of people remember that line. I think he says, yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:25 Let that dude from Laguna Beach. And it's like, no, that's some other douchebag or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's some other tool. Yeah. That's some other tool. Right. Oh, was that?
Starting point is 01:26:32 And was it the wedding? Was it a, I was at the bar. Because I think of, yes. Which was like one of my little regrets of the early days of One Tree Hill is, I made the choice to like have the bartender have his towel overshund. You were having around there. they're like belt loop or something or it's just there for a second. And it was just
Starting point is 01:26:51 like whenever I see a little shot or some sort of a picture from those early episodes, I'm like, dude, take the towel out of your shoulder, man, you're such a rookie. Right. Let loose. No, there are so many layers to one tree hill and we talk about this all the time the crazy storylines
Starting point is 01:27:07 that happened in the show. But I loved every part of it. Like, I truly was a huge fan of those later seasons that, you know, things got really wild but I was like this like I'm following like this is getting really crazy but I'm into it and those ladies now
Starting point is 01:27:24 do they you know they do their drama queens and that show is fantastic those three are just absolutely magic when they're all together I love them I think the idea for all of all these shows are so great because people are so invested and with streaming nowadays everyone can go back binge watch all these shows watch shows they've never seen before and then
Starting point is 01:27:44 you then become invested in your guys's lives and what happened behind the scenes. I think that all of it is so interesting. That's why the rewatch podcast has been so popular. Right. You said you had a funny story for us and we, we didn't get to hear it. So let's hear it. Oh, I was just going to say you just reminded me when you were talking earlier about the episode length of, you know, the podcast that the girls are doing with One Tree Hill, drama queens. And I gave them so much credit because I were, you know, getting through our episodes, we would have gotten through a majority of them. But I was like, man, doing 187 of them, which is the episodes of one tree hill there were.
Starting point is 01:28:16 I'm like, damn. I was like, I don't know how you guys do it. But yeah, so I, well, we were talking before we got on. And I mean, you guys were like, you know, I'm, I'm Ria. I'm Fran. I remember what we talked about. Everyone was doing great. Of course, I remember you guys.
Starting point is 01:28:32 But I also saw you guys in New York City having lunch. And I just walked by. And it didn't hit me until I was a few steps by. And I was like, I know them. That's Fran and Ria. I should have turned around and said something, but I just kept going. That would have made us look so cool. Were we alone or were we with other people?
Starting point is 01:28:55 It was just the two of you. Oh my God. We would have felt so cool. This was like a year ago. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. The last time we hung out. No, that's funny.
Starting point is 01:29:05 I wish you would have said hi. I mean, we would have really, you know, for the people around us, you know, what's cool? It's like, who, what? Oh, yeah. And then your name's immediately popped in my mind. No, that is funny. And I'm saying hello. Honestly, thank you for even telling us that because like he said when we said, hey, I'm
Starting point is 01:29:24 Ria, I'm Fran. I was like, you know, you were on the show. I just, we never know if people remember us because over Zoom, you just never know. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny. Not your interview, but there has, there was a couple like, right, that we did a bunch because everything was on Zoom at the beginning of COVID that now we're like, oh my God.
Starting point is 01:29:41 That person was on our show. We had them as a guest. I'll call him out. I don't know if you know who Wells Adams. He just got married to Sarah Highland. He was in the Bachelor franchise. And we're friendly with him now. We're close with him.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And it's very funny to look back on. But we had him on our show like once or maybe even twice. And then he came on our show in L.A. And he was like, thanks for finally having me on. And we were like, you've been on our show. So now we just still give him shit. But if we see you sitting down having lunch, somewhere, we will stop and say hi.
Starting point is 01:30:13 I owe you guys lunch. How about that? Perfect. Perfect. We'll have a lunch sometime. That works and you'll be able to come back on the show in the studio, which would be awesome as well next time you're in New York. Stephen, thank you so much for chatting with us. Back to the beach.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Everyone listen. It's really great guys. If you love Laguna Beach, it's a great way to rewatch and then listen to everything that Stephen and Kristen have to say about the show because it's great. Everyone remembers Cabo, but now we finally get. to hear your thoughts on Cabo. So it's the infamous trip. Yep, exactly.
Starting point is 01:30:46 It's everything the fans have always wanted. So we definitely appreciate it. Yes. And thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you guys. Appreciate it. See ya.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Awesome. All right. Thank you so much. All right. You guys take care. You too. Thanks. All right, that wraps up today's episode of Chicks in the Office.
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