Chicks in the Office - Pete Davidson’s Special, Gigi Hadid & Jake Paul + Bachelor Recap

Episode Date: February 27, 2020

CITO Merch > http://bit.ly/citomerch. Pete Davidson jokes about Ariana Grande in new Netflix special (18:16-27:05). Gigi Hadid's amazing clapback at Jake Paul (29:31-45:36). We have joined the BTS Army (46:05-50:06). Bachelor fantasy suites recap with Luggage Guy Trent (52:30-1:42:26). Follow us on Instagram @chicksintheoffice and on Twitter @chicksintheoff + subscribe to our Snapchat show > http://bit.ly/thegroupchat & our YouTube > http://bit.ly/CITOYOUTUBE.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/chicks-in-the-office

Hey, Chicks in the Office listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. This is... What's up, everyone? It's Chicks in the Office with Rianne Fran, giving you that Friday energy on a Thursday per usual. It's been a great week. I hope you had a great week, like I said at the beginning of this week.

It's motivational. We're being motivated this week. We're getting shit done. We're working hard. because we are now entering the months where it's about to become warmer. February is going to end soon. March is right around the corner. Then we got April. Then it's May. And then all of a sudden it's June. It's warm. Things are happening people. Moving fast. We're moving fast. Leapier. Something about a leap year. Always just excited. You get February 29th. Yeah. You get paid earlier. If this is the week that you get paid. And right. You'll get paid on Friday instead of Monday. Shorter pay cycles in February. And what's also great. And I feel. feel for those people. There's people that are born on a leap year. Do you get to celebrate their birthday on their actual birthday this year? Super exciting. I have a friend born on February 29th. It stresses me out. Wouldn't that be so stressful? I would not want my birthday to be on February 28th,

March 1st. Both. I think it's fair. Yeah. If you were born on February 29th, you get to have both days. So that is true. You deserve it. Yeah, you were unlucky enough to be born on February 29th. Yeah. Yep. So you get both. Exactly. There's something I want to talk about because it's a personal, personal thing. Not that personal thing.

It sounds like I'm about to get real deep. It's not. My sister is getting married in June, right? I'm the maid of honor. Things are happening. I'm in charge of a lot of shit. I've been planning a bridal shower. I have a bachelor party in Vegas to plan, which leads me to.

If anyone out there can throw a great bachelor's party in Vegas, hit me up. If you got connections, let me know. If you've done it in the past, let me know. So we basically, we have a plan and we do have somebody, a party planner that is working on it. So I don't want to disrespect her because she's doing a great job. She's in charge of this. But any extra help, any little inside. You guys can throw our way in Vegas, I'll be open to.

Yeah. I will also be there. Fran will be there. Rea sent me the itinerary this week and I almost passed out. Should I read the itinerary right now? I almost passed out. I've never been to Vegas ever. Like even as a kid, I've never gone.

So now I'm going as an adult who will be able to party and drink and whatnot. And when you said me this, I was just like, I'm going to need to be hospitalized. I don't know if I can do it. It's a lot. I'm very excited. So like you said, it is your first time going to Vegas ever in your life. I have not been to Vegas as a 21-year-old, but I did go when I was younger. We have some family friends in Vegas, which I had a lot of fun even as a kid.

But I am very excited to be an adult. My parents, they love Vegas. They go every year. They're big into gambling. Yep. You know, just love to party, have a good time. So that's the vibe for this. My sister obviously is the same way.

Loves to party. Loves to have a good time. A lot of her friends will be there, of course. My friends will be there. There's like 15 girls in total, I think, that will be in attendance. I'm very excited. And this is in May. So the Mother's Day weekend.

Yep. So just keep that in mind if you are in Vegas and you have connections and you want to reach out to me. You let me know. This is the itinerary we have so far. Yeah. Thursday, because we get in Thursday in the day. Dinner at Tao at night, uh, the nightclub for Tiesto after. Friday, we have a brunch before the pool party. Pool party at 1 p.m. We're seeing Kigo at Encore Beach Club. After that, we have a dinner at the house so people can kind of nap. Then at night, it's, uh, Omnia for dead. And then Saturday, breakfast again. And then another pool party for Wet Republic for Tiesto again. Then a dinner at Beauty and Essex and then after that a Chippendale show or Magic Mike and then after that

another club so we'll be going to oh man multiple clubs multiple pool parties Fran we're going to stay alive because I'm going to get like IV stuff shout out to Liquid ID they've sponsored us before we'll have tons of that we're going to survive we're going to have the time of our lives Fran I promise you I'm already stressed you're not allowed to come on the trip if you if you are getting stress and getting and getting like I'm not going to survive you're not allowed on the trip. This is my sister's bachelor party and I will assure that she will only have fun and there will be no downers on the trip. There will be zero downage. Zero downage. Get it all out now. Girl, because you're not allowed to. I have none, none at all. I am very excited. But that's a grind.

It is a grind. It's going to be a lot for us. We're going to push through though with alcohol. When was the last time you party three days straight? I actually can tell you right now when we went to AC to the Borgata. Remember, we went to the club. The next day, remember, we didn't go to bed to like 5 a.m. The whole thing, next day I went to Rolling Loud in Queens, partied there. And then on Sunday, I went back and did it again. So that's the last time I partied three days in a row.

And I was on like an adrenaline rush after the second day. I didn't know I was going to go back for the third. And those were night. They were nights. And they were nights. but I'm saying they were night events. You weren't doing stuff during the day. Although, I know rolling loud, I started drinking at like 6 p.m.

So I got that's not during the day, but I stopped drinking at 6 a.m. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you really think about it. Which, oh, man. Which will still be the same thing in Vegas. To be honest, it'll just be 72 hours straight on. 72 hours straight of pure alcohol running through our veins, which I am ready for because this is, this kind of stuff and brings a tear to my eye of happiness.

because being with my friends and you and then having my sister's friends and then some family in the mix, it warms my heart. It is a dream come true. It really is a dream come true. It is going with all my favorite people in one place in Vegas. And it's Vegas, the people watching capital of the world. And I love people watching. I've always wanted to go.

I've always wanted to do the pool parties because I just, that's something that I want to experience. Oh, it's a scene. And I am, I'm very excited. That is very true. And it is nice when you just get to have all your people together. Exactly. This weekend, we're going to Florida. Yeah, we are.

So I'm going on a trip with the marianos. Here's the, here's the reverse. We're going to visit my parents. Jupiter, here we come. My brother and my sister are coming as well. My sister's 21st birthday is today, but it'll be, you know, yesterday, tomorrow. So we can celebrate and I'm just really excited. Your boyfriend's coming along.

Everybody's coming. Everybody loves coming. One set of my grandparents is down there. Fuck yeah. Where my mom's, we're doing a big barbecue Saturday night. Big barbecue Saturday night. You didn't tell me that. Yeah.

It's just, my mom was like, there's too many of us to go out. We're going to have a big barbecue. I have everybody at the house. I love a barbecue. I know. I'm very excited. That's going to be a lot of fun.

And guys, we are going to. Coachella. We could talk about this now because we officially booked it and I'm not going to book a house and not talk about going because it's expensive. So yeah, we don't really know any. Well, I've never been to Coachella, so I don't really know like what to say right now about it. I'm just excited to go. You'll have a great time. I have been one time. I went the year that Beyonce got pregnant and didn't perform. Oh, downer. Downer, but it was, it was, um, Lady Gaga and she was pretty awesome. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Upper. Yeah. It was, it was, it was great. It is an experience and a lot of fun.

I think it'll be different with, um, with you and Noah and I feel like, like I went, I went, um, as a very regular like Coachella trip, you know, very standard. Maybe this time. It's a little different. Hopefully. Maybe a little more, I don't know, could be more stuff going on. We know more people now. Hopefully. Hopefully. Hopefully people hang out with us. That's what I'm saying. Because if we get there and we're like, damn, so what? So what now? We have nobody to hang out with. I don't think that would be the case. I think eventually we'll find some people to hang out with. I think there'll be a ton of people

obviously going. I feel like everybody freaked out that Frank Ocean's performing. Oh, yeah. It'd be a big, big trip for everyone. If Frank Ocean wasn't performing, I don't think I would have pushed us hard. I'm really going to have to start listening, huh? Frank It's not something you should like Be like uh-huh It's not

It's Frank Ocean, he's great I'm really just kidding because I I just haven't listened to it It's not that I'm like not doing it Well what if I send you some songs later? It's the same way that you never listen to The Taylor Swift Reputation album

It's not that you hate Taylor Swift and you don't like Taylor Swift music you like it You just never listen to it I just have never listened to Frank Ocean Just listen to the entire blonde album All of a sudden you some songs that are my favorite, though, to like, you know, just like, like memorize those lyrics, France, so we can sing them together. Got it.

Well, I would definitely do that. Like, without a doubt, I will listen before going because that would be ridiculous if I didn't. Rage Against the Machine, that's going to be awesome. Another band that I have never listened to in my entire life. Killing in the name of. I'm going to go nuts. Rage Against the Machine is kind of scary, right? Like, when, like, I feel like that's a little moshed people.

But, yeah, we probably, like, I'm probably going to stand off to the side and be like, kidding in the name of, like, banging my head to the side and, like, get away from the crowd. Yeah. Well, what's funny is you and I have, like, different tastes. So it'll be interesting because there, I could see there being times when I'm like, oh, God, I really want to go see somebody else. You know, but, like, well, let's look at the lineup right now. Okay. We'll go through it.

Okay. No, well, obviously, like, rage against the machine. We've already discussed. I have, I've already said that I think I'm going to have to pay. If there are any stylists who listen to this podcast, reach out. And they want to curate some looks for free and I. Just let me know because boy, that's going to be the toughest part of this. Obviously, like the head, the headliners like, Rage Against Machine, Travis God, Frank Ocean,

everybody goes to those ones. Those are like they have their own time. own times. Hopefully there's not any conflict. But like on Saturday, when there's Flume Disclosure, 21 Savage,

DeBaby, Summer Walker, like... Oh, we're going to have some problems. I would want to see flume and disclosure. Ria probably would not. No, I would want to see 21 Savage and DeBaby if they're performing at the same time. Yes. Which is why we're going to need friends. So we're going to really have to map this out. Which is why we're going to

why we're going to have to contact like we're going to get friends specifically for this like yeah you want to go see that you go with friend you want to go see that you go with Ria yeah noah you go wherever your heart desires you guys getting lost no no no I think we um I think we maybe like each get our own GoPro yes each get our own GoPro for sure I think that is Fran cam and Ria cam I think that is great idea for content thank you Fran cam Ria cam done we're going to do that love that idea i think that we can also bargain with each other like

okay fran wants to see disclosure yeah but you also have to see deba baby with me bless you thank you you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah we could go see that but you have compromise while we go see compromise compromise compromise yeah yep yep i have i will not be missing debby this time remember remember i remember i won't be missing him this time yep yep so i'm very excited and then Frank Ocean Sunday night is just the perfect way to end the trip. I fucking love Frank Ocean. I'm really excited. Lil Nas X.

And Lil Nas X we're going to have a great time, guys. Are you excited? Let's go, let's go team. Let's go team. Woo-hoo! Okay. Just the three of us.

Yeah, just the three of us. Yeah. Don't worry. We have friends. We have friends. Do we know? But okay, whatever. We'll see when we're there.

We'll put on our Instagram story. That'll be a fun, like, celebrity watching thing, too. Oh, 100%. stand in the corner and just watch people like we said yeah this is just another one of those like everyone Kardashians everyone everyone everyone everyone Kendall Jenner will definitely be there everyone no like I said it's Coachella everyone everyone um moving on moving on we must get into the topics but before we do so I wanted to mention something that we didn't talk about on the podcast Trent and Noah both have not seen girls well now I told Trent and Noah which I can't

honestly that's already out the window Because I should have told him to stop speaking when he did speak. I told them both that they weren't allowed to speak on this podcast ever again until they watched Mean Girls. Trent went and watched Mean Girls. Right away. Right away. Right away. He watched it last night. He and Robbie watched last night. And he really liked it. Noah, I told him you're not allowed to speak. Yes. On this podcast in which he's been speaking this whole time. So I guess it didn't really, wasn't effective.

True. Okay. I'll give you a slide. I'll give you a slide. Pass. If you do not watch it tonight. One Hall pass. One hall pass. You will not speak when we record on Friday. Or from continuing on, you won't speak to.

However, that is a little bit less of a punishment, I feel like for Noah than it was for Trent. Yeah, I mean, I don't do that much anyway. Trent would be like a huge loss.

Right. Like I feel like Noah is like, oh, I don't have to speak this episode, okay. But the people listening will get upset if they hear that they'll never hear Noah's voice again just because he didn't watch me girls. True.

Yeah, Noah, you're not upset the people? As the chicks and not. watch it. Okay. I'll watch it. Okay. What did Trent think of it? He really liked it. He thought it was good.

Oh, really? Yeah. I was going to say I'm not going to promise that I'm going to like it. No, we don't need you to like it. We just need you to watch it. We know you're a little bit of a movie snob, so we'll see what happens, but it's, we just think. Watch it with Dana and you guys will have a great time. As the Chicks in the Office producer.

Yeah. I know. I should know what it is. You should know the references. You should know what I'm gross. I know like the big things, I think. You can't sit with us. Yeah.

You don't know why they're saying. But you don't know why. You can't see it with us. That's what I feel about Noah right now. The gym scene. Okay. Yep. See, all these things connect in the form of a movie.

Right. You only go. It's beginning to end. Yeah. Worth watching. Oh my God. What a terrible siren. Before we get into the topic, it's one more thing.

One more thing. One more thing. We started a YouTube series called The Story of where we will be going through many celebrity couples, huge Hollywood stories. We started off with Justin Bieber and Haley Bieber. Couples are probably what we're going to do first. First. And then we'll see where it goes if we run out of couples.

It's season one couples. Couples. So we did the entire background from beginning to end. It's like 15 minutes long, but it's every piece of information that you need to know about their relationship. It's all in there. It's on our Chicks in the Office YouTube. So go check it out. And they will be coming out.

Yeah. And subscribe to us. And they'll be coming out twice a month. So that's really exciting. Right. Noah did a great job editing it. And we're really excited to. see maybe we can become YouTube stars.

Who knows? Yeah. Or just, you know, if you run into somebody who is like, man, I really don't know how Justin and Ailey Bieber ended up married. And you could say, well, boy, do I have the video for you. The perfect video for you. Yep. This is the perfect video on YouTube that you see pop up on the side.

And you're like, the story of Aeney and Justin, what's that? You click it and you just go down a huge rabbit hole. You're like, wow, now I know everything I ever need to know. You'll start to finish. Yep. Perfect. So go check that out on you. YouTube, chicks in the office on YouTube, subscribe, watch us. It's going to be great. Let's get into

the topics. We have Pete Davidson's new comedy special on Netflix. Gigi Hadid absolutely roasted Jake Paul on Twitter over the weekend. We would have talked about it on Monday, but we recorded before it. And of course, we have the Bachelor Recap with Luggage Guy Trent. So let's get into it, starting off with Pete Davidson. And we're talking a little BTS. Oh, yeah. Oh, don't forget. The disrespect, I just gave them. How dare me? Yeah. I honestly feel like I should just walk away now because of the disrespect. We also talk about BTS. Thank you. So let's get into it starting off with Pete Davidson. As you all know, E is one of our favorite TV networks. They have Keeping Up with the Kardashians.

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he made some jokes about Ariana Grande that of course Ariana Grande fans were not happy with, but I understand it's his comedy special. He even prefaced it that way. Like, Ariana, she has her songs. The only thing I got, I got this. I don't have Twitter. I don't have Instagram.

I'm not allowed on the internet. So I can't tell people what I'm feeling. The only time I could tell, people what I'm feeling is right now during this special. It's kind of been like an extension of that. Like he did that full interview with Charlemagne and then it was in that came out before the special came out and now like the two obviously connect. Yes.

But the special is obviously all jokes and the show. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's way more serious. But it's an opening of like, yeah, I make jokes for a living and then here's me making jokes about it. And I think that's totally fair. He should be making these jokes.

He made a joke about Ariana Grande saying, you know, when they broke up, she went on to say that Pete was just a distraction, that she didn't even really know him and that she did this on the cover of Vogue. And he was like, what if I spray-painted myself brown and got on the cover of Vogue and was screaming about this? Like, my career would be done. But there's a difference when you're Ariana Grande and Pete Davidson. And I think he's aware of that and he's self-aware and laughing at that. He also said there was, he was like, there was no repercussions for her. she was like the top billboard woman of the year and I got called butthole eyes by barcel sports which was hilarious that that was mentioned in the same breath as like the Ariana Grande joke

I thought I honestly thought that the special was very funny and I don't know if I said this earlier I don't know if it's because I ate an edible beforehand but I was geeking out really hard. I also think the first five minutes he talks about smoking weed in his dressing room at S&L leaving, getting in the elevator

and this was in like 2015 gets in the elevator and Louis C.K. is there and he was like now this at the time Louis C.K. Very respected comedian that you look up to. And he said that Louis C.K. called him out in the elevator and was like, look at this idiot Pete. He's high as

fuck. All he does is smoke weed. and then he said the next day Lauren Michaels called him into his office and was like Louis C.K. It told on you. He said, you're smoking a lot of weed. And Pete was like, well, yeah. And then he said, Lauren wasn't mad at him. Like he wasn't. He was like, well, I'm fired. And Lauren was like, no. I just, you know, maybe just keep an eye on how much weed you're smoking. And Pete was like, yeah, I'll watch. I'll definitely, I'll definitely watch it. And so he was like, I was just so bummed at that this guy, Louis C.K. That this comedian I've always looked up to, he hates me. because I smoke weed. And then he said, and then one glorious morning, I woke up. And he was like,

of course, you don't want to hear this news about anybody. Right, right. But if it had to be anybody, I'm happy it was Lucy. And then this one really got me when at the end,

he was like, if only those girls knew, if they just whipped out a blunt when he was jerking off to them, he would have been like, no, no, just because he hates weed.

Yeah, yeah. So I was, I thought that was really funny. And then there was some other stuff that was like kind of awkward, honestly. But I think that happens in most Netflix specials nowadays.

There's going to be parts where awkward, they piss people off, and then there's going to be parts that people genuinely laugh at. But that's just comedians, comedy specials. People get offended at jokes. It's incredibly hard to be a comedian right now. It is because people get offended more easily. You don't know if you're crossing the line. Because some people were offended because he talked about being,

his girlfriend's having a lot of gay friends and that the gay friends could just like slap a girl's ass. like grab their boobs and it's like oh it's fun but like he's like I've had to work hard to do that yeah yeah which I obviously don't know what it's like to be in that position so I thought it was funny but I can see when you are gay and you get offended by that you know what I mean like it's just different people get offended by different things and then some people if you are gay you thought it was funny and then some people are like no it's not funny right it's a whole thing but that's every special nowadays it is it is I honestly haven't I haven't washed yet so I would

I can't really say like fully how I felt about it. I saw the, you know, this different Ariana Grande clips. I saw the butthole eyes comment. And I've always thought Pete Davidson stand up was, was good. It's always been intense. Like there have been jokes in the past that I was like, that one didn't really land for me, not going to lie.

And I'm sure that I'm sure there will be some in the special. But also, that's like part of being a comedian. Exactly. And I think he was aware of like when jokes weren't landing in the show. He'd be like, all right, that split the room. And I think it's when comedians address that. And then they make sure that like this is a joke. Like this is jokes.

Would you have to keep remembering when you, they're joking? Comedy. They're supposed to be up there making you laugh like this. Yep. So I thought it was funny. I thought it was good. Like I said, obviously there were some moments where I was like, okay. But I've never even really watched his stand up before, maybe like one other time.

Yeah. So I was pleasantly surprised. I actually was expecting to cringe throughout the whole thing and not like it. But I was like howling, laughing within the first five minutes. He is very funny. And also, he's just like hot. Like we, I know, I know this is like so typical, stereotypical for me to be saying this. But like, I was watching it.

I'm like, he is hot though. Like, why? Why do I feel that way? Why do I think he's hot? We were, me and Ellie were talking about this. Yeah. I don't know if this is mean, but he's hot. He's not handsome.

Okay. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I do get what you're saying. Okay, now it sounds mean. He's not handsome. That sounds mean. Traditionally.

Right. And I understand what you're saying. It sounds mean the way I'm saying it, but I think you can understand what I'm saying. In like the typical all American Chris Evans kind of. Right. It's not. But he's still hot. Right.

Well, there is a. a certain kind of like sex appeal to him but I also think that comes with just being really funny exactly you know what I'm saying like there's a certain like there's a certain sex appeal that comes with someone who is very funny regardless of what they look like

you become ten times hotter yeah and if you're not funny you become 10 times less hotter he has that for sure I think that's where it comes into play also He also talked about Ariana Grande shouting to the world that he has a big dick. And he said that instead, because we were all like, that's so nice now everyone's going to want to fuck be David's because he has a big dick. And he was like, it's actually quite the opposite because you all thought she was being nice, but she really did it so that everyone could be disappointed.

This is the only thing I didn't like that I got out of it, which is a common misconception. I don't like that she talked all this shit on like behalf of my dick. I thought that was like super weird. she was like yeah it didn't work out but like nice dick I thought that was really weird because like everybody was like oh that that's what a nice uh girl first of all just take a step back can you imagine if I said that shit you imagine I was like sorry it didn't work out nice put pussy but sorry

yeah it's it well he could not have done that no he couldn't that's what I think it's funny like making those jokes and making and being self-aware of that is very funny and obviously he said he wasn't going to make jokes about Ariana Grande, but he said once she went on the cover of Vogue and basically was like he was nothing. He was like, I think it's fair game

to make some jokes. So I enjoyed it. Yeah, well, how long was it like an hour? Yeah, it was like an hour. Standard. Standard comedy special time. Makes sense. Exactly. That's great.

He, I feel like with the drama in his life and him getting himself in check and all those things and kind of like being on SNL but not being on SNL all the time there hasn't been an opportunity for him to really like showcase

his chops his comedy chops so I thought I feel like this is like a great way for to remind everyone that like this guy is actually really funny instead of just kind of like the butt of every joke exactly so we're going to get into talking about Gigi Hadid absolutely roasting Jake Paul

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They were in Vegas at the fight. Oh, by the way, we didn't even talk about the fight. I just want to say, shout out to Tyson Fury for winning because I was rooting for him because of Tommy Fury. Yeah. I saw Tommy the background. I was like, woo. I know. I saw a lot of Tommy's Instagram.

So I was like, wow, I'm so proud that you. Because I'm, I wasn't really sure what kind of brother relationship they had, you know? Right. Because, like, were they close? Are they not close? They're not, you know, they're not full blood relatives and not. I wasn't totally sure what the relationship was, but seeing him included and everything. I was like, that's very nice.

Right. And Tommy and Molly May are not 21 yet. So Molly posted about how going to Vegas when you're not 21 is hard. That is absurd. Yes. They are not 21 yet. It's fucking crazy. They look like they're 35.

Did not realize that. Tommy's not 21? No. Tommy turns 21 in the beginning of June. And Molly turns 21 at the end of May. Isn't that nice how their 21st birthdays are like right near each other? It is, but that is really pretty crazy. Yeah.

Really pretty crazy. So they were dead sober the whole time. Well, that's not true. I'm sure they found ways to consume alcohol. Well, that's not legally drinking. I saw. Tom was in the club after, I feel like. Well, that's the thing.

I saw Tommy in the club after. So I was like, okay, they put that on their story. But, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah. really your brother wins that fight and they're they're making sure you are taken care of right um but anyways just wanted to say to grass at Tyson Fury yep yep because i was rooting because of Tommy Fury yes so all these celebrities were at their fight like usual a bunch of celebrities had down to Vegas and that's just the thing to do with the fights yep I one day aspired to be at one of these fight level yeah that just seems like so much fun yeah we just go to Vegas for the big fight that's always

what people call it They're just like, I'm going. Oh, we're going for the big fight. Big fight. Yep. Sounds like a dream. Never gives any more details besides that. Like there's always the Instagram story of the private jet headed to the big fight.

Exactly. So Jake Paul tweeted, it was late at night. It was like 2.40 a.m. I guess, Vegas time that Jake Paul had tweeted, almost had to clap up Zane from one direction because he is a little guy and has an attitude and basically told me to fuck off for no reason when I was being nice to him. Zane, I know you're reading this. Stop being angry because you came home alone to your big-ass hotel room.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. Then Gigi Adid had to reply and she wrote, LOL, because he doesn't care to hang with you and your embarrassing crew of YouTube groupies, home alone with his best friends, like a respectful king because he has me, sweetie. Unbothered by your irrelevant, ugly ass. Go to bed. Amazing work by Gigi Hadid. Amazing.

honestly, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this. Somebody had to say it to Jake Paul. And thank God it was someone like Gigi Adid because Gigi Adid, this gorgeous super bottle just told Jake Paul that he was in a relevant, ugly ass. Listen, I would say there's no way you can come back from that. But because of the embarrassing crew of YouTube groupies that Jake Paul has, he will stay relevant in the YouTube world because of his fans. He has these diehard fans.

Yep. But otherwise, I would have. I would say that Gigi Hade ended Jake Paul because he tweeted the next day. Fantastic. It really was. And he's, he has deleted the original Zane tweet. Um, one, he spelled Zane wrong multiple times. Z Z, Z, Z, A and E, not how he spells name. And I, like, right away, I feel like if I'm Gigi, that pisses me off right off the bat, right? I'm like, well, he spells fucking name, right? And we knew that Gigi and Zane were pretty much back together. We've seen pictures and whatnot of, of them.

being back together. And honestly, every single part of this tweet was fantastic. The LOL to begin, great. Embarrassing crew of YouTube groupies, like just see ya to his entire group of friends. It's like you're, you're all a bunch of losers. And, you know, home alone with his best friends. It seemed like Zane, you know, brought his buddies to the fight. It was one of those knights. And then she said, like a respectful king, because he has me, sweetie. Sweetie, amazing. If you call somebody sweetie, you are just tearing them down in any way you can. And I respect it. She called them a respectful king. That means that her and Zane's relationship right now is 10 out of 10. They're doing great. She would not call Zane a respectful king if he wasn't a respectful king.

And also, like, I feel like it just shades Jake for being, you know, the fake husband that he is or was, whatever you want to call it, but not, not, you know, treating women probably in the best way. And then she called him an irrelevant, ugly ass. Now, I'm not one for making fun of people's looks. We don't, on this show, we do not call people ugly. We do not make fun of their physical appearance. Yeah. But the fact that Gigi indeed took it to the level to call him ugly, ugly ass, like, I just, I just got to clap it up for Gigi because that's when you know you really piss somebody off is when. and they start calling you ugly and you deserve it. Yeah. Like you,

if you're going to be such a nuisance to this world and bother people who don't want to be bothered, then you deserve to be an irrelevant, be called an irrelevant ugly ass. Unbothered by your irrelevant ugly ass. And then go to bed is just, it's just, I know.

So emasculating. Like Jake Paul got 100% emasculated by Gigi Adit. Yeah. Just like, go to bed. Go to bed. What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing?

It's past your. bedtime. Lock it up. And then he tweeted the next day and he wrote, someone needs to take my phone when I'm junk because I am a fucking idiot. Clearly, Jake Paul regrets his decision of tweeting that tweet because he deleted it, which I think is such a pussy move. Like you, we already know Gigi Hadid responded to it.

Everybody has seen the tweet. Leave it up at this point. You can't take it back. Everybody's looking at it. You're now a pussy because you deleted it. Yeah. I understand he may be deleted it because of the amount of replies and hate he was getting mute the conversation.

Big Paul. You put that tweet out there. Gigi's response is still there, which I'm happy about because I think... I know. For a second, I thought she was going to delete it. Like, if maybe that was like a heat of the moment thing, just because celebrities do that. It's like they send out the clap back and then leave it up for like five minutes so people can screenshot it. And then they take it down. I was pumped that she left it up.

And really excited that a real celebrity finally said something to Jake Paul. Like, just shut up. And it's clear. Like I said, Jake Polly tweets this. someone needs to take my phone when I'm drunk because I'm a fucking idiot. He clearly regrets this decision. Also, using the drunk excuse, Jake Paul, you're big enough now where just put your phone away.

You don't have to be, don't use the whole, oh, I was drunk. Yeah, yeah. Like, just don't be an asshole. You don't have to tweet these things. I could see him probably bothering this shit out of Zane. Right. This YouTuber is all up in his face. Like, let me film you, let me film you.

Just annoying. And not only that, but he was, probably was, I could see Jake Paul, like, one, being very insulted if somebody doesn't know who he is. Like, Zane was probably like, who that heck is this squad of people? And also, I'm sure it's annoying as hell. I can, I can picture the video in my head of like Jake and his buddies and then being like, oh, Zane, like screaming something about one direction and, and the whole thing. And him just being like, hey, like, just here to, you know, enjoy my night, like everybody else. Yeah. Get out of my face, which is a super

favorite quest. Like if you're just, if you have somebody that, um, you know, you're not really trying to to talk to and you're, you know, you're a celebrity. Get over yourself, Jake Paul. Like if he did tell you to fuck off, he told you to fuck off. Like, don't complain about it and say you're going to fight him.

If Zane tells you to fuck off, then fuck off. Yeah. Also another thing, another tweet he tweeted, and people aren't really talking about this as much. He wrote, bro, he literally started yelling and freaking the fuck out. You want to test me mate. He put in quotes, oh well, I feel bad for childhood stars. Oh, all Zane said was you want to test me mate.

And you can't handle that. Zane probably was like stop filming me. What did you do to start this? Exactly. There wasn't like, Zane probably wasn't like, you want to test me mate because you were just genuinely being nice to him. You probably kept shoving the camera in his face when he said no. And then he said, you want to test me, mate. That's just, I wasn't there.

That's just one of assuming it happened. We are making assumptions. We're making assumptions. But if I could see how this thing went down, I can assume. and also just you are relevant ugly ass. That's got to hurt. You have to be like, damn, I'm ugly. If Gigi Adi calls you ugly, shit.

I'm ugly. And I also just love the fire from Gigi. You don't really like see this too much from her. You know, like I, and I think that just has a lot, maybe, you know, it's tougher with kind of just always being in the spot. and watching what you say most of the time and trying to be perceived in the best way possible. But once you see something like that and you're like, absolutely not. This guy is not going after my boyfriend and, you know, dragging his name for no reason.

And you just light off a amazing tweet. I do think that Gigi Adid has been more outspoken than other models. though. Like I have seen her clap back at people more often than I would like Bella or Kendall or yes. I agree. So I think that she does speak up not to that level. Not to, she doesn't call people ugly asses often. I don't think we see that. You're embarrassing crew of YouTube groupies. We don't see that

from people often anymore like just we I mean we see it from people random trolls on the internet of course going after people's looks. But when you fight with people nowadays you aren't really necessarily going for their looks. I feel like people are past that. They're like we're not making fun of people But the fact that GDD does really went there with it, I love it. You have to respect it. Yeah. And then Alyssa Violet,

Alyssa Violet wrote back to her like, Go off, sis, I love you. Which just adds fuel to the fire because then the YouTube people see Alyssa Violet commenting back and they're like, oh shit. This almost has a million likes on Twitter. Her tweet. Her tweet, which. Yeah.

Makes sense. How many retweets I said. Retweets does it have. Over 100,000. Yeah. And the wonder. direction fans, Zane fans, they have to be

fucking crazy, just like every other fan base. And more crazy than the YouTube fan base. If you get Jake Paul stands to fight with One Direction stands, one direction stands are going to take them down. They've just been in the game longer. Yeah, been in the game longer, they're older, more experienced. Exactly. Jake Paul

stands are younger, haven't been in for long, not dealing with like, and Jake Paul stands deal with it more because Jake Paul does more stupid stuff that they have to defend. So, you know, they're more practice in that way. But the, I mean, especially with One Direction, Stan, especially Twitter, it's, it is crazy because not only are you supporting the, the member that you love the most or whichever one, you know, you have picked if it's not just them as a whole, they fight within each other.

Right. Like, it's like, you know, Zane versus Harry versus. There's multiple layers. Yeah, because then it's, then it reaches that level where they're, they loved one direction, but then, you know, they actually start fighting with each other. So the, the experience, they have it as well. I could absolutely see Zane fans not standing for this at all. No.

See, now that we, like if I had to pick a Paul brother to side with, I think I'm going Logan Paul these days. And I know, and I know, what an impossible choice, but yeah. It's an impossible choice, but if you had to make the impossible choice, I think I'm going Logan Paul. You're probably right. Jake Paul just reminds my gears on a whole different level nowadays. He does.

The Tanna stuff, it piss me off. I like Tanna, though. I don't not like Tana. The fake wedding shit really was over the top. Right. And now he's dating Julia Rose, which I just think anytime somebody dates Jake Paul, I'm like, they deserve better. Yeah.

Like, what are you doing? Yeah. Yeah. And I know Logan says he's, turned over a new leaf since the bad videos in suicide forest and whatnot, but that still pops in my head every once in a while. I'm not full logan. No, no, no, but for sure.

Never go full logan. That is, it's really a tough decision. Yeah, it is tough. But at this point in time, especially, I mean, you want to be on the right side of history here with Gigi and I would like to think if Josie gave Logan even like a chance, maybe there is some kind of redeeming quality. Right, but the fact that she stepped out. also makes me think that there's not. Who knows, though? We don't know exactly what happened.

Exactly. Look at Stephen Chey with those damn legs coming down the stairs again. Of course. Every time. But it really was such, really just a phenomenal response. Phenomenal Twitter moment. Looking forward to more of these, I feel like we've been slacking in the Twitter world of good celebrity clapbacks

and GDD really just wanted over. The majority of celebrities just don't even go on Twitter anymore because they hate Twitter so much. I was thinking about that. Like, we're still on. on Twitter. And I don't know if the world is. Like I, in Hubble Bragg, I just got 200,000 followers on Twitter, right? In my

head, I was like, yes. I thought about it. I'm like, wait, people are like still on Twitter. People are not on Twitter. I don't know if I, because I definitely was a big Twitter user before I worked here. Yeah. But I'm wondering now if I didn't work here, if I would still be on Twitter. That's a fair question. I'm not.

I think Twitter is the funniest of the apps. I know. I think I would too, just because I also just consume majority of like news and breaking news kind of from Twitter. Exactly. And I also think it's good for, you know, gauging reactions of things. Also, I could never give up live tweeting The Bachelor. So I would probably still have my Twitter account regardless.

But, yeah, it's just one of those things because you do see celebrities a lot, even, you know, depending on various fame who hate Twitter. and don't go on Twitter at all, they just stick to Instagram. Yes, but then I do see the celebrities that are on there. Like, Meek Mill is tweeting constantly. Yeah, yeah. Like, if Meek Mill is tweeting constantly,

then there are people that love Twitter. There's more celebrities on there than what we think. People have a true love-hate relationship with Twitter. It's just one of those things. Like, I would say, like, half of my girlfriends don't use Twitter at all, like ever. Everybody's on Instagram. Yeah.

But, like, not everybody is on Twitter. Right. And I think because there are so many voices on Twitter. Yep. Like, whereas, you know what I mean? Like Instagram, you have the comments,

but whatever. Twitter is just strictly voices. Whatever is on people's mind. Yeah. Could be very fun. It's also way easier to be anonymous on Twitter. You know? Very good point, friend.

Yeah, like you can just, you can have an account that is an egg photo and no background, like you have no idea who that person is. Yeah, and all the stands. Which happens on Instagram, but it's like, Way less, way less. See it way less on Instagram.

It's only once in a while I see somebody pop up. I'm like, this isn't a person. Yep. This is what we would call an egg. A personal announcement. Okay. I think I am a BTS stand. I think I'm joining the Army.

Have you listened to the music? Yes. I love it. I really. Noah, he says he's in too. Can we play something? Can you play mic drop? And I know that this is, this is not the,

I've spent the last two hours on my... The actual song? Or from the Carpool karaoke? You can play it from the Carpool karaoke. The songs they played in the Carpill karaoke made me like... Damn, this is really catchy. I looked it up.

I also kept stop... I sit by Kate and Rone and every 10 minutes I was stopping them to tell them like what funny thing happened. And I watched all of the videos they did with Jimmy Fallon this week. Like they did a whole thing with Jimmy Fallon. I watched the Carpill karaoke.

I'm dipping into their... new album, this new album that they have out. But just from the Carpo karaoke, I was like, damn, these songs are pretty catchy. And I do like, like, I have listened to them on the songs that they are, that they've done with other artists. Like, Halsey has had them on a song before. I've heard them through that, obviously Old Town Road remix.

So you saw them there. But this was just an eye-opening experience. Do you mind if we listen to some music? Let's go. Are you ready? Here we go. It's also like an old song. All in.

The song is also, I think it's this version. My headphones just got off fire. Had to take them off. And their rapping is actually pretty good. And their beats are awesome. was a lot of me listening to their songs and being like, it's just super catchy because I obviously don't know what they're saying.

But there is a mix of like Korean and English together in separate songs. And I mean, yeah, boy, couldn't I be later to this train? They've been around for a long time. That's okay. It's never too late. Like mic drop, I was listening to it because I didn't realize I guess there's a song,

but then I think that version is a Steve Ayoki remix as well, which is awesome. and then they were on Jimmy Fallon and they performed their new song in Grand Central. Like they cleared out Grand Central and they performed in the middle of Grand Central.

It was really, really sick. Like all these dancers, the whole thing. And they're also unbelievable dancers. Like they're all really good dancers. And they're, it's great. Like, it is boy band choreography, but it's like boy band choreography on steroids. Like really good.

Well, I've, seen the videos on Twitter because if you have a viable tweet be sure that BTS fans are going to get in there and just reply with videos of them dancing. It's just like stream mic drop or something. Like every time. But I got to say I was very

impressed and this was the first time that I really fell down the rabbit hole of watching a ton of videos and it's good. I might have to go down the rabbit hole tonight. I love going down YouTube rabbit holes lately so I think maybe BTS will be the next one. The Carpoll Carrey The Carbocarioki is very cute.

Like, it's very funny because really one of them can speak English. The others are not really that great. So you can tell they're understanding, but it's harder. So it goes back and forth. But it is, it's just very entertaining. I'm going to have to watch for sure. We all don't have the same hair. So why should we all use the same shampoo and conditioner?

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You do. So Devlin, the guy who runs our Instagram, he came up to me and asked me for a bachelor take from last night. Happy to do it. he's like say whatever you want. And I said something to the effect of, I think Hannah Ann is the favorite right now because we don't know if Madison's coming back or not. But I'll tell you one thing,

Victoria F is definitely not going to win and I would be happy to take her luggage. Something to that effect. She then responded to the Barstool Instagram saying whatever Barstool Trent. Great. Honestly, great response. Pretty good response.

Not going to lie. This isn't the first time she's commented on something of mine. She said under the Luggage guy video, You're doing great, sweetie. So I don't know what to, I don't know what to think. I'm a little scared. But I was just telling, I was just saying what my opinion was. Yeah.

Tren, I want you to know that you should not be scared. Okay. Because that's your opinion. Yeah. And she knows that's what majority of America is feeling right now. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't think I said anything that controversial. I think I just said that there's no way she's going to win, which is true.

Yeah. She's not going to. Yep. Almost positive. And your job is as a luggage guys to take people's luggage. I mean, next man up. Yeah. If she's the next to go, you're taking her luggage.

It's not up to me. I'll take whose ever luggage is there. And if it happened to be Victoria F's, I would take it. That's my job. If you knew, if you knew beforehand that it was Victoria F's luggage, would you have grabbed the handle like a little more harshly? Just rub, like just kind of maybe threw it against the wall. No, no.

I would have been very professional. Again, it's not about me. It's about the bachelor. I'm simply a cog in the machine. Right. And if I go and get the luggage. I'm going to do it, whether it's Natasha's, whether it's Matasasas, whether it's whether it's Victoria F's, I would take it the same way every single time.

That's a very, um, would you just a glare kind of guy? Yeah, it's admirable if I may compliment myself. Would you give a glare? Like a little, like a little side eye. A little side eye, maybe a side eye. Like we really know how you feel about this person. Yeah, I might give a side eye, but that would be the extent of it. Love it.

A little sad. So that's just a little update on what's going on. between me and Victoria F? Well, guys, we made it to fantasy sweets. It feels like it's been a very long season. There's been a lot of ups and downs. We've reached the point where I would say this show gets the most serious and people go into real life mode.

Right. Like this is, we've hit the point where instead of like, ha ha, funny commentary, we make jokes about the show, everyone turns into. to well, in real life, and then they say their opinion because now things have gotten, things have gotten serious and everybody's taking it really seriously. Yeah, I think that we need to start this off by saying, once again, we say this in our podcast all the time. You don't agree with us too bad. Somebody doesn't agree with you. Too bad. It's your own opinion. I also think that we don't need to take our feelings of the show outside into the real world of like your

personal friendships. You know what I mean? I see people personally fighting on Twitter. I'm like, it's just not that serious. It's a show we watch. We don't know these people. We're way to invested other than a show. We need to remember that this is a show for entertainment purposes. And we need to all relax and just like respect each other's opinions.

You know what I mean? Yeah. If you have a different opinion than me, that's fine. We could talk it out. But I don't need to be like, you are the worst human being on earth for thinking that. No. Right. We just, not everybody thinks the same one.

Right. And when it's, it's about a show where seven, out of the eight weeks, everyone is on the same page with that. Yeah. Where it's just like, these are all jokes. This is a ridiculous scenario that these people have signed up for, that they've found themselves in. And we all make jokes, you know, we all make jokes about it.

It just so happens that when something, when it gets this deep into the season, people start taking it a little more seriously, when it should just be sort of looked at as all the other weeks. It's funny because Twitter turns into like a different kind of beast. Like beforehand, it's like, great. Jokes, everybody's laughing. This is funny. We're having a good time.

if once you get to this point and you're like still in joke mode and people are like, how could you say that about them? I'm like, no, no, we're still joking around. I'm still kidding. It's still reality TV. You know, the, I had like three tweets in a row

that all kind of had different meanings to them. Like they all were different viewpoints because I was just like, I feel a bunch of different ways and I'm just going to tweet out like certain things because people will maybe you know, resonate with different tweets

and it was like, well, how can you say that after you just said that? I'm like, they're just tweets. And it's like, I'm not thinking about it that deeply. No, no, no. I'm firing off these tweets in this fan of two. Tweet was like initial reaction. Something happens and I tweet about it

15 seconds later. Like I haven't been like, hmm, let me ponder and think about what this means. And it could take 30 seconds for my opinion to change. I also, yes. I could be like, hmm, I actually don't think what I just tweeted. Right. I think that that's the biggest problem right now. because we do tweet our opinions right away, people think automatically that's what you think.

We haven't had time to settle in, think about it. Now that we have had time, I do know where I stand on it. We went on Caitlin Bristow's podcast this morning. Also shout out to her because she made me kind of drunk. So if you think I'm drunk during this episode, it's probably because I am. Just kidding, but not really. Anyways, I think that we can now come to the point where we can speak on where they're feeling from both sides. Yeah. Something that we talked about in Caitlin's podcast that I want to talk about on this one is that Peter and Madison both have values and stuff they believe in. Madison's is that she is saving herself for marriage and that she believes sex is very important in a way that she's saving it for marriage. Peter also thinks sex is very important, but in a way that he thinks he needs to have it with people to understand sexual chemistry and know where they're at.

Both are fine beliefs to have. That's what you think. Totally. And I think that everyone is coming from a place where they're like, oh, we're on Madison side. Oh, we're on Pete's side. When they're both kind of right. You know what I mean? Like we can't judge Peter for wanting to have sex with multiple people because it goes back to,

and I use as an example, I know it's not the same situation. But Hannah Brown's season where it was Tyler, Peter, and Jed. She did not sleep with Tyler. she had sex with Pete four times and she also, I'm assuming, had sex with Jed, right? Yep. Peter wasn't even the runner up. He went home before the other two and she didn't even have sex with Tyler.

So for people to be like, oh, oh, Peter knew that he wanted Madison. Nobody was saying that about Hannah. They weren't like, oh, she knew he wanted Jed. Why did she sleep with Peter? You know what I'm saying? I'm kind of seeing like a double standard when I think everyone should just be like, oh, he wants to have sex. That's normal.

Right. When it did, and it is, it's. Because they're forgetting that Madison, it's not that she doesn't want him to sleep with other people and then she'll have sex with him. She doesn't want to. There's no sex in sight for Peter right now. It's a very strong, you know, those are her values. It's a very strong belief that she has. And it also complicated things because of the timing of it.

And like this was, this was the producer's wet dream, right? Like, I don't know if there were somebody whispering in her. Fran. Yeah. I don't know if this was I also had a glass of wine so like I don't know if

they had little voices in Madison's ear like let's not talk about the virginity thing like let's not talk about because Madison I love Fran doing her producer voice right now

don't talk about don't talk about it yet hey sweetie let's just not mention the virgin thing later yeah let's just save that I feel like that's a great conversation for fantasy sweets so you should just save that for them

because it seemed like now Madison truly said it in so many different ways without actually saying it beforehand. And I'm like, why did she not just say it when she first had that conversation? But I mean, you never know. She also just could have, you know, maybe it was nervous about it and didn't want to say anything because the reality is that yes, Peter has had sex multiple times on this reality TV show. Yep. And she knows that.

So I'm sure that's in the back of her mind Like, oh boy, how is he going to react When I tell him that I'm saving myself for marriage When I know that he is someone who, you know, Davils in sexual relations. So it's like, She also might have just been really nervous to say it So she didn't.

But of course, the way they structured the fantasy suites Was that Hannah Ann and Victoria F got to go first because obviously the producers know that Madison has this bomb to drop and that, you know, she laid out this whole ultimatum and whatnot. So it's like you, there's definitely a structure to it that if Madison had maybe gone first from the Fantasy Suite dates, this wouldn't have happened. But, you know, then that then the drama doesn't happen. So you know that everything is kind of orchestrated from that standpoint.

But we can start from, I guess we can just start from the beginning of the episode and talk about the different fantasy sweet dates. It picked up in like the, you know, in the hangar and Madison pulled Peter aside just right after a rose ceremony. Smart girl, you know, she got the rose. And was like, all right, now let me give Pete this ultimatum. And basically said that she was really struggling and that she, it would be really hard for her to continue in this if he was to.

you know, spend the night with the other girls. And you could tell he was confused. Like he was like, well, what are you saying? Like, is this, so you're saying not to spend the night with the other girls? And she's like, well, no. Like, like, she, it was tough because she did not want to tell Peter what to do, right? Like, she didn't, it felt uncomfortable for her, but it was also something she had to say because that was how she felt.

But she kind of like jumped into the ultimatum, jumped out, jumped in, jumped out. Yeah. She very much wanted to be like, this is how I feel about this situation. And if you do happen to sleep with the other two girls, then it's my belief that I'm going to have a very hard problem handling that. But it's hard. It's an interesting line to walk to them be like, but I'm not telling you what to do. But I am a finalist on this show. At the end, we're going to get engaged if I end up being the one that you pick.

So it's, I could see how it gets lost in. coming off like, I'm not giving you an ultimatum, but I'm absolutely giving you an ultimatum. Yeah. And that's kind of what it's, it sounds like. Yeah. Yeah. She was. She absolutely was, but I feel like in that moment she, Madison, I respect because

she has these beliefs and she's sticking by them. So in that moment, she doesn't want to take back the ultimatum because she wants to stick by what she believes in. So she's kind of taking it back, but she's also like, but wait, no, that's how I feel. I don't want to take this back. She's falling in love with a guy that has different values. But once again, Peter does not know. the part where she has never had sex before.

I think that is what makes everything so different. If we're talking about somebody who just genuinely, she has had sex before and she's getting in her own head and she's like, I don't want you to have sleep with the other people. This is a different story because I feel like that's something, everything, everybody goes through on the show. The ultimate becomes way more serious. Right.

Everybody on the show, Hannah and Victoria, they do not want Peter sleeping with other people, but unfortunately it's the show. That's kind of what's going to happen. People bring up the point where they're like, in real life, I would never want my men. Of course not. My boyfriend is not dating to other women right now, though. So of course he's not going to fuck other people before he proposes to me.

I wouldn't want that because he's not dating other people. Your boyfriend, unfortunately, is dating other people because this is a show. I thought for sure the Virgin thing was going to come up in that conversation. Because then I think Pete really. That's why I really am like, was she forced to hold this in until fantasy suites? Like what was going on where she was like, yeah, I'm still not going to. Like if she had tagged that on to the ultimatum, I think it would have made way more sense to Peter and might have actually been not necessarily that he needed convincing, but I think he maybe would have understood the severity of what she was saying a little bit more if he had all the facts. Yeah, but she did not say it.

And I agree with you. I think if she says that, it clicks because it never totally clicked with Peter. It didn't seem like it, ever. And then if she finally says, oh, and it's because I have these beliefs and I have. I'm also virgin. I think he's like, oh, this is a very serious issue to her. But instead, she leaves him with a non-ultimatum ultimatum, and he goes away even more confused than before.

Yeah, exactly. So he is totally lost, it seems like. They're going into these fantasy sweet dates. They're in Australia, which looks fantastic. I mean, great place for them to have their fantasy suite dates. So they, for the first time that they've, you know, they've ever done this. And it's truly only because of Madison's beliefs.

They made them all stay in the same room, hotel suite, or wherever the heck they were, and then just forced them to like awkwardly sit with each other when they came on from dates, when they were waiting for dates. Like there was just so many awkward moments of them sitting in the room together. Hannah Ann, coming back from her fantasy sweet date, just sort of walking in and being like, hey, guys, what's going on? That was some of the most awkward television I've ever seen. You look so skinny.

You look so tan. Like, they're just throwing these compliments because it's like they like, they like, like, I feel like the girls like each other. I just feel like, if I was in that position, I would sit there and be like, guys, this is fucking awkward. Yeah. I just feel like you, you now know each other because you're all you have. You don't have TV.

You don't have any outside sources to entertain yourself. You have the people in this. home you should be kind of close with each other. I feel like you're saying shit out in the open that you just say. At that point I'd be like, guys, this is fucking awkward, but we have to do this. And you're right. I bet they're close and they talk about a lot of things. But they're saying, they're talking about everything except what happened on the fantasy

sweet date. That's the one topic they either couldn't talk about or just didn't ask her about. Yeah. Or they just didn't even really like want to know or how do you even go about asking. So Peter came into the room. They had their, uh, the first. Fantasy Sweet dates, obviously, you knew right away that Madison was going to go last. That's just the way this show works.

And so Hannah Ann left first. They went jet skiing, looked like that, a great time. Peter kept talking in an Australian accent that he did one time and it should have been one time only. Like when he was like, we should talk in Australian accents all day. I'm like, no. Both of them, no. Yeah, and I think both of them quietly and. To themselves, we're like, no, I'm definitely not doing that.

The jet skis looked fun, though. Yeah. Guys, when I saw these jet skis, I was so jealous. I would absolutely crush a jet ski date. People were tweeting to me like, Ria must be loving this. I was. I ate that shit shit up. What's your thing with jet ski?

I love them. I really do. If I can have on a jet ski, it presents itself to me. I will be hopping on and going as fast as I can. I get on there and I go as fast as I can. She does. There's an off chance now that Fran is brought to my attention. jet ski accidents,

Caitlin Beatles, Sean Kingston also had a bad jet ski accidents. Oh no. It's really hard though. It's hard to get her on a jet ski in completely open waters. Like you're going as fast as you can. If you go fast and you flip, which is very unlikely, you'll fall into the water.

True. No, like when we were in Miami, Ria was doing laps around me, like spraying me with water and shit. It was mean but necessary. You're trying to like haze her into it? I'm not going to sit there. No, but the thing is I wasn't going to sit there and act like I want to go slow. Like I want to go fast.

And just because you're going slow, I'm not going to go slow with you. So it looks like I'm like being a bully, being like, but it's really just because like I want to go fast. It was my first time driving my own jet ski. So I was just trying to figure it out. I think I wanted to spray her with water. I did. I did. She did.

Yeah. I, listen, I get carried away when I get into this like mode of. Imagine if Hannah Ann just like I'm a superhero slash supervillain. on a jet ski. That's your mindset? When I'm on a jet ski, I'm invincible. Truly, if I could be anywhere in the world right now, it would be on a jet ski in the Bahamas.

Because I don't want to get back into this, but when I went jet skiing in the Bahamas, and I've gone multiple times before, but it was just a feeling like I've never had before. Like the adrenaline felt like a drug. I'm not kidding. That's really interesting. I wish I could bottle up.

She's been a changed woman since that experience. I wish I could bottle up jet skiing and put it in IV into my veins. Every morning you're just like, Every morning. That's my coffee. This is what this feels like on a jet ski. Boom, you'll feel that all day.

I would do it. I like jet skis as well. I definitely don't like them as much as you like jets. No, I love it. I think it's because I love boats. I love being on a boat. But I'm not in control of the boat.

I love the fact that I'm the one giving myself this thrill. Do you have any interest in motorcycles? No. I would never get on a motorcycle. It's very hard to get her in open water where you fall into the water. When you go really fast, the water turns into conquels. concrete basically.

They do say that. But it's very hard to flip on a jet ski. Have you fallen off? Yes, I had fallen off. Going very fast. Not going very fast, but I have fallen off before on a jet ski. Let me tell you. Every time I got, I would get nervous.

No, the thing is, I'd slow back down. That's the trick. If you slow down and get all like janky with it, you'll, you'll probably make yourself flip. Where if you just ride it out and just follow it, you're good. Do you just slowly slow yourself down? and it'll slow down for you. I've gone really fast to the point where I'm not afraid of flipping over anymore.

I was at first, but I'm just not. It's very hard to flip over on a jet ski. They make them that way. So motorcycles is a whole different story. That's crazy. I would never get on motorcycle. What are out of your mind? I'm like, do I not know what's going on right now?

No, I understand. I understand you thinking I would go on a motorcycle because I went on a jet ski, but there's a way more of a chance that I would die on a motorcycle than a jet. I also feel like a jet ski you have just more open space around you. Yeah, it's the open water. You're not worried about like, you know,

running into something, hanging something. Like, Ria on a motorcycle, I would be afraid she's crashing her. I would never go to a motorcycle. Like if she's in traffic, hitting another car. No, that's fair. They seem like similar. They do seem like similar.

We want on ATV. ATVs are fun. Like a rough rider's video? I actually wouldn't because I know one of my good friends actually, like, destroyed her. This is not funny. She, like, really messed up her face from, like, falling into a whole big thing, honestly. So I don't know how I feel about them anymore.

Just just shiskely jetskies. I love water sports. You put me in the water? I love water sports. I'm fine in the water because it's the water. You splish, splash, taking a bath around. I know there's possibilities of drowning and whatnot, but I, I think I'm good. Okay.

Knock on wood. I don't want to die now. There's no wood right now. I can't knock on it. But, yeah. Things on the ground, like, is way more dangerous. You guys, are you not, you guys are looking at me like a 500 head. No, I get it.

No, no. I'm going to my mind. I know. I completely understand. But I think there are definitely, like, open water terrors that that compete with ground terrors. Right. If you're in the middle of.

in the middle of the open waters, you can't get back to land. Drowning, stranded, falling off a cruise boat. Sharks? Sharks. Okay. Now you guys are bringing up things that I have been afraid of in my life that I have tuned out now because you can't go on a jet ski and open water thing about sharks. And it can't be afraid of sharks.

You can't be scared the whole time. You can't ride scared. You can't ride scared. No. Boom. Tattoo. Yeah. I'm going to tagging.

Get it. Get it. Get it. It'll be like a outline of a jet ski along the bottom. You can't ride scared. Wow, get me a jet ski and print that on the side for my birthday. I was going to say if you ever... When at some point, if I become rich, that's the gift I want.

If you ever, like, yeah, if you ever own a jet ski, like cars have bumper stickers, that can be your jet ski bumper sticker. What is it? You can't ride scared. You can't ride scared. You can't ride scared. Damn, that shit's good. Okay, let's get back to the bathroom. The date looked fun.

Yeah, yeah. The jet ski date looked like a great time. So I'm sure they had a fantastic time. I was hoping for maybe like a hitch moment where, you know, Peter, because like they jumped on each other's jet ski at one point. Like they're on separate and then there was one lone jet ski. And I was like hoping that maybe Pete would just knock on it in the head like the movie. Not to get back to jet ski talk, but fuck on with somebody else now.

I've realized that now that single rider only. Okay. It's the only way to live. Double riding is that's riding scared. Yeah. I mean. Which is you can't do. Which is riding scared.

Not allowed. So, so, okay, like I said, this, watching Hannah Ann and Peter is tough for me. I said it to you guys last week. Each week, you know, they, it seems like their relationship is growing. Pete has feelings for Hannah Ann, but for some, for some reason, they just don't seem real to me. Like when Pete says, you know, I really like goofing around with Hannah Ann and we have this connection, I'm like, I don't see the connection. I'm like, I think you're lying to yourself.

It has to be because she's so young. Because I look at her and she's 23. It's not even that. No? It's not even that. It's just like the relationship that they have makes her seem younger. Like the relationship that they have makes her seem younger, makes her seem like she's like a little sister. She and Madison are the same age.

Yeah. See, they're very different people. Yeah. That's what's mind blowing because I think that Madison's screams. that she's so mature. Like she has these strong beliefs. She stands by them. Yeah.

The way she acts is very mature. So I don't see her as young. Whereas Hannah Ann, I just get very young vibes from her. Like, I feel like she's maybe because she looks like a doll. I just think of dolls. Like I don't,

I don't know. She truly does look like a porcel doll. And but, but, and that's not, it's not an insult anyway. She's beautiful. Like they're right.

Like she, um, she kind of got tearyied on the, on the date. Like, not fully crying. It was just like, watery eyes.

Yep. And I was just sitting on my couch like, she is so beautiful. Like the watery eyes almost made her even more beautiful. I was like, she is a beautiful crier. Yeah, I can't. Maybe we talked about it on the show last week, but she does. She's a beautiful cry. And I had noticed it.

And I finally watched last night's episode, like, let me see what this is all about. And it is. When she got like a little watery, it was like, damn. Yeah, it glistened. But what about the kissing? I didn't see it. I watched no tongue. No tongue.

None. None. None. But we talked about this, and we have come to the conclusion that making out on camera is weird. And I also wouldn't love to be filmed making out on camera. I don't want to see what my tongue looks like going into somebody else's mouth. I don't. Something that she could be thinking about.

Hannah's thinking about that. Like, my tongue will be all over the screen. And then people who do have a tongue wild and out, people they get made fun of. Meanwhile, like, that's normal. But if you see somebody making out a tongue, it's different. than actually doing it. Put your tongue away. Right, but like that's a normal thing.

But I don't remember ever critiquing tongue on this show. Not you. I have. No, but just, you have. I forget who. Maybe Josh Murray. Oh, I mean, that was a different thing. I think it was just his noises.

Yeah. And I'll critique a tongue if it's all over the place. But I think a normal makeout, I think is pretty. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to think of who. I forgot who it was, but I know that there was someone in the past. I remember being like I'm seeing way too much of their tongue like all the time.

The kisses between Hannah Ann and Pete, they're just really long, their lips are locked for a long time. Yeah. They're just sitting there like, their lips are locked and that's as far as it's going to go. I just, I cannot see the chemistry between them. I really can't. Like, and it blows my mind that she could be the winner here. Like, she could be the one that Pete picks. I just don't, I don't see it with them at all.

Like, at least Pete and Victoria F. I see, like, the sexual chemistry that they have. I don't see it at all with Peter and Hannah-Anne, like even a little bit. Yeah, do you think that Hannah-Anne and Peter had sex? Because I think Victoria and Peter, we definitely know had sex because of the way Victoria F was glistening in the morning, like a vampire in the sun. Hannah-Anne and Peter, maybe they just had a nice night of like kissing. Yeah, I mean, we got that.

Just spooning. We got the steamy, we got the steamy bathroom door moment. But sometimes I feel like when they give us those moments, it's because something bigger did not happen. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like to allude to them like really getting it on, but it's really just for us to think like they really got it on. You know? We're led to believe for, no, I got what you're saying.

Yeah. But they were definitely led to believe that he slept together. Like they want us to think that they were getting down and dirty in that bathroom. Because that makes them, then the Madison stuff even more like. salacious. So I hadn't really thought about it. I guess in my head I was just like, oh, they slept together. And then, you know, that's kind of it. But maybe they didn't. We don't have, I don't know. We never get confirmation for sure. I mean, the clothes on the floor of Victoria F, glistening like a vampire, things like that. But yeah, with Hannah-Anne, I just assumed that

happened. There were no bedroom shots in the morning of them, really. But that could have also been a thing because they made Hannah-Anne's poor, like, walk back to the other girls so uncomfortable. So uncomfortable. One of the more uncomfortable moments. But I live for those, those make me feel alive. It's just, it was so tough really watching them, like, come back to this room to talk to the other girls. Yeah, I'm trying to think like, well, first of all, Victoria F saying they were productive. That was all time. Just like, we were, it was productive. Oh, so you mean you fucked because Madison may be a virgin, but she knows what productive meets, especially when you say it like that. Yeah. Yeah. That was definitely a hinted

something for sure. But, you know, the whole time, you can see. Madison just like slowly freaking out more and more about this because she knows what she said to him but like you're probably thinking oh God did he listen to me I can't ask them directly I'm going to have to ask

Peter directly but now I just got to keep waiting like she kept talking to Hannah Ann Hannah Ann was giving her looks like I don't know what you want me to say I do wonder what Madison's expectations were after that conversation like is she going out is she sitting in that apartment or wherever they stayed and like oh, he's going to listen to me and this is going to be great and then we're going to get engaged. It's going to be awesome.

Or is she thinking he's probably going to sleep with these girls? I don't know. Windmill would probably lead you to believe that. That she would. That she would. Yeah. It was very intense. Of course, Victoria F got the second fantasy suite so that Madison is last.

He and Victoria, Peter and Victoria just had this kind of bizarre date where they really didn't say anything. but they didn't fight so it was technically progress kind of like there wasn't an argument but there wasn't really groundbreaking you know changes

no and we never we never got the conversation the one that started outside of the hometowns right that conversation is never happening no follow up on Victoria F's you know and if Pete even and if Pete even dares bring up right even he even dares bring up like

hey remember that weird hometown date that we had she goes very quiet and doesn't say anything it's just strange yeah they didn't fight and then she victoria made the joke like we haven't fought today isn't this great but we haven't fought yet it's like man this is this relationship is based on some strange things yeah they they fought too much for a couple that's not really a full couple yet right like if this is your fighting now imagine what it's going to be like every single day for these people yeah and pita's now started to say that he likes it he likes the fiery nature of it he's like i don't and this This part I actually agreed with what he said where he said, I don't like, I don't want a relationship to just be boring and monotone and it's very,

everything's all gravy all the time. That I actually agree with. But Victoria F, the way she talks to Peter is, is a little more combative than just like a playful. Let's keep an interesting relationship. Yeah. And I, and this is just, I mean, Pete's been kind of telling us this for a while. I remember, I think they might have been in a hot tub. I had like a memory of Peter and Hannah Brown

on a date where I think they might have been in a hot tub I could just I could just be making that Like a hot tub in the middle of nowhere? Yeah like one of those moments where Hannah was like joking about like kind of being crazy and Pete was like yeah I like I like crazy so it's that has definitely proved to be true now he

he was almost talking to her like a therapist when they were on this dinner date because she's saying, you know, I think because of my last relationship, I was never asked about my feelings. So I always feel like when somebody asks me about my feelings, like it sets an alarm off that something's wrong. Like I must be doing something wrong if you're asking, but I know that that's not true that you're just a great guy. And then Pete went on to like ask her to elaborate and to talk. talk about her feelings. And she was like, I don't know.

And then started to, you know, close up again. And Peter was like, please do not do this again. I tweeted it's talking to Victoria F is like diffusing a bomb. Yeah, yeah. Like you're looking at a bunch of wires and you're looking at red, green, blue wires. And you're like, all right. Let's just move forward and hopefully that this is the right wire. And you pick the green one and then she starts to shut down.

And you're like, no, no, no. You got to reattach it. You go back to the drawing board. Like that's how it is talking to Victoria F. And he seems to like that part of her, though. in a very strange way, but it is sort of the bedrock of their relationship in a weird way.

Fighting. Fighting. I'm just really trying to understand, Peter. I really am. I'm trying to understand why he is the way he is, why he likes, like psychologically, why he is attracted to somebody

who just causes problems. He just like chases after this. Meanwhile, it's not nice. Like, there's nothing nice about it. I don't know if he likes the chase. I have no idea what's going on. There's nothing about Victoria F where I'm like, yeah, that seems like it would be

good besides the sex. Like Victoria F, which they definitely had. She seems like she would be great to have sex with. And that's probably where this all happened. It was funny during the dates that they, or during last night's day where they do have that chemistry. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. No doubt about it. noticeable. That's why I say that. Yeah. It's very clear that

they seem like they would really have great sex together. Yeah. They kept saying everything, he kept saying everything's great except the communication part. Except the part where we got to like. Except the part we have to talk to each of. Hash things out. and figure out how this is going to work going forward. That part, not great up. But everything else, they do have a very serious physical connection.

Which happens to some people. Some people can have great physical connection, but when they try to talk to each other, it's just not going to happen. I love when Victoria F was like, okay, we need to have a conversation. I was blown away. I genuinely didn't know what I was watching.

I was like, does she say they have to talk? And then they started talking. And then Peter quickly was like, just started making out with her. He didn't say anything really. She was like, I'm falling in love with you. and he just started banking out with her, and then I'm assuming they had sex.

Yeah. I think that's a safe assumption at this point. They had sex. Just the after, you know, the morning shots, she was happy. They're there in bed. Plus, obviously, Pete telling Madison that he was intimate, whatever that means.

I mean, that might not mean sex. I feel like it does mean sex. He was just trying not to be like very crass about it. He didn't want to give details. Right. And also after hearing like, oh my God, this woman in front of me that I love because Pete,

has said that he is in love with three women. Boy. So he's like, you know, here's this woman that I love. And she just told me that she is saving herself for marriage. Like, how do I tell her in the, you know, nicest way possible that I had sex without, like, being gross? At one point, he was like, I'm just so uncomfortable right now. Oh, it was incredible. But anyway, Victoria F.

She comes back from, um, same situation, awkward moment, back into the room. they're all talking. She says, you know, it was a productive evening. It's just, it was so tough to watch. And then, you know, Madison gets her fantasy sweet date. And Hannah Ann and Victoria F are able to talk. And Hannah Ann tells Victoria what Madison's been saying about, you know, the kind of alluding to the ultimatum and that things would change for her if she had sex with the other girls. and Victoria F was like, well, that is just straight up unfair. Like, where does she get off telling Peter, like, how to maneuver his other relationships? Like, she's like, now that, like, affects us because those are our relationships. Right.

She's telling, she's telling him what to do when it comes to us. Right. She made it, that was a good point. That made it, like, when she. I know. Victoria F was right. She was right in that part. Yeah.

I hated that. I had to say she was right. You know, props for props are due. because that does affect them. If Madison is pulling him aside, essentially giving him an ultimatum, even though she said she wasn't, she was like,

do not sleep with these other women, or it's not going to work between you and I. And he clearly likes Madison a lot. I'm sure the other girls in the house and notice that as well. So they think that Madison has some sway over him. So that's going to affect their relationships. He still ended up being intimate,

we think, with both of them. But it does put the other girls in a tough spot. It sucks. And I think that when Madison talks to Peter and Madison finds out that because Peter had to tell Madison because this is the first time Madison mentioned that she's a virgin to Peter. Listen, she never mentioned that before. And like I said in the beginning when we started this, it's totally different circumstances where somebody is saying, hey, if you sleep with other people, I'm going to leave. Whereas, hey, if you sleep with other people, I'm going to leave because I have never had sex before.

And this is what it means to me. Like that is withholding information that Peter should know because maybe if he knew that information earlier on, it would have been a little bit different. And people want to say like sexes and everything, but also it clearly means a lot to Peter. And it clearly does mean a lot to Madison because she is waiting for marriage. So sex is a big factor in this show. And some people want to have it and some people don't. but she never even gave Peter that choice to even make that decision for himself to know whether or not he wants to be with a virgin.

Exactly right. Yeah. I couldn't put that any better. There's it. And I struggle with everyone being like, but he should have waited because he knew that he wanted to be with Madison. But like, did he, we've seen Peter this whole time. And we're going to think that he knows what he wants. Yeah.

He clearly doesn't. He's been all over the place this season. Yep. Making bad decisions left and around. Exactly. So like how are we supposed to expect that Peter knew Madison's the one? Yeah. And I think it's, I think it's unfair to absolutely say that Peter made the wrong choice and say like, look, Madison, you know, told him the terms and he did not follow and therefore she should leave because he, you know, did not listen to what she said because it sucks. And if sex is definitely an important, very important thing to Peter and, and his. relationships. And it could also be, I mean, don't know, I'm assuming, could also be important for the other women. So for like, for example, for Victoria, I have to be like, yeah, you know, sex with Peter would be a

huge thing for us to find out if like this relationship could work or that side of this relationship could work. It, you know, would explain a lot of things for us. And then to hear Madison say, like, well, you can't do that with her because this is how I. want my life to be is it's it's yeah no I don't think it's totally one isn't more right or wrong than the other like that's the thing and what we might be finding out and this happens in relationships that everything has been great between Madison and Pete the whole time everyone we've all said she's the frontrunner all season long but now they've come to this crossroads and maybe they just aren't compatible because of this thing I get that sex isn't everything but like rhea said it's clearly

important to Pete in a certain way it's clearly important to Madison in a certain way and if they just can't come to an agreement on that, then maybe it's just, it can't work. Yeah. That just might be what it is. And it's tough because she is the favorite and has been. Right. And people get so attached to the contestants on the Bachelor that they think, no matter what, Madison and Peter, they have to work out.

They have to work out because we have been rooting for Peter. I mean, we have been rooting for Madison, which we have been. Madison's been our favorite. I still am rooting for Madison. Absolutely. But it could just be that they're not going to. They have just a different values. and they didn't figure it out until the end of the show.

Yeah. And I think it's fair for both of them. There's no reason to be like, Peter's wrong because he had sex with the other people. Then we could talk about Hannah Brown season where Peter literally was the third person. Like, Tyler, who was the runner-up, didn't even have sex with Hannah,

but Peter did and he went home before that. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't necessarily matter in that circumstance. No, it's certainly... Because you're trying to figure out the chemistry. No, it's not about right or wrong. Both people are right to feel the way that they want.

But the end goal of this show is for you to, for Pete to find someone to get engaged to marry. And if you're finding out now, it is really late and, you know, would it have been better had she brought the information to him sooner? Maybe. But we are now dealing with a situation where she didn't and they have to come to grips

with, are we compatible because we do have these large differences in this one area of our relationship? That's kind of what it boils down to. It's not about right or wrong. It's about whether they think they can figure it out. Because they, like you said, they just have,

they could potentially just have different visions of how, you know, their engagement, marriage would go. And they're now just reaching that point of having that conversation and, and being open about it and discussing those things. And now it's one thing. I know people are like, well, if Peter, you know, really knew Madison was the one, that he wouldn't have slept with the other girls.

Like we said, I don't really think Peter knew that. Like now, if Madison comes out after the show and is like week five, Peter told me he was picking me and to hold it out, you know, wait, wait, wait it out or whatever, then okay, yeah, maybe he shouldn't have slept with the other girl, the other girls, but if he's trying to figure it out in, in his own way, and so like Madison's values, she can speak up, those are important to her, she can tell Peter how she feels and how it will affect her relationship, but Peter still has to make his own decisions and navigate it the way that he wants to, you know, people might not like that because people love Madison so

much that it's like the reaction is like, well, Madison's so great. Why would he fuck that up by sleeping with the other girls? So it's, and I think that's what the problem is here is that people get so attached to people that they think that they can't separate their love for somebody to like step back and be like, okay, well, maybe that wasn't the correct decision. Maybe the other person's wrong. Like you could really be rooting for somebody and love somebody. be like, okay, I didn't really agree with that decision they made. I still like them, though. And that's kind of how I feel about Madison and Peter. Like, I don't agree with what Peter's doing. I don't agree with, listen, if Madison, if these are her beliefs, I totally agree with that. Like, you have your own

beliefs. You stand by those. And I really respect her for actually standing by them and saying, I'm not going to like change who I am. I'm really proud of the person I am. It takes a lot to come forward and stick your ground and say that. So I really respect that. I think it's the not telling part where is the problem. I know that it's her decision, but this all goes back to it being a show and people want to say it's real life. It's actually not. There's cameras around.

There's producers involved. Like it's not real life. Really at all. You just have to take these situations and think about how it's going to work in the real life. And that's what makes a show like this interesting in general is because you're looking, all of us we operate in the real world and we're like, this is how this relationship would work if it was in the real world. but that's what makes the show so crazy is,

oh my God, now he's dating three women. So how's that going to work? It's not the real world. He's going to probably sleep with other women, but I get that Madison has her views. Pete has his. And again,

it might just end up that they can't come to a conclusion or whatever, and they're just not going to work out between the two of them. And we keep forgetting because it's like everybody just kind of brushes over it now because we've heard it so many times on different seasons of people being in love with multiple people and it's just not as big of a deal as it was, you know, a la Ben Higgins. I remember what Ben Higgins said he was in love with Jojo and Lauren B. It was like, what is going on? Yeah, it was, it was explosive.

It was insane. You know, it was mind-blowing. And a lot of people were like, well, it was because he told both girls that he was in love with them. Peter's telling these girls that he's falling in love with them, in love with them. But even if he's not saying it to their face, he's said multiple times to the camera that he is in love with three women. Yep.

So it's like, if that's the case, then yeah, he's probably trying to explore every possibility with each relationship and maybe he really didn't know who he was going to pick. You know, like, people are like, well, if he knew he was going to pick Madison, well, he keeps saying he's in love with all the women. If he knew in his head, I would hope. If he knew in his head, like, I'm in love with Madison. I'm definitely picking Madison.

like at least say, oh, I have such strong feelings for these, you know, I wouldn't, I wouldn't keep saying over and over again, I'm in love with all three of these women, knowing that my future fiance could watch all these clips of me saying, I'm in love with three women. Because he's under no obligation to say he's in love with any of these women. Right. Right. And I think that if it was happening. He could have said none of that. Right. If it was, if it was happening with Hannah Ann, then everyone would be talking about Hannah Ann, like, everyone would be like, well, if you knew you were going to pick her, it just is because. this storyline is surrounding Madison. Everyone's like, you were going to pick Madison. If Hannah Ann did the virgin thing, everyone would be like, you were going to pick Anna Ann. It's just like now where this storyline is going. I think personally, my prediction is that Victoria, after she's gone, this is just going to be like a thing.

It's whatever. It didn't work out. They had sex. They move on. It's going to come down to Hannah Ann and Madison. I don't think he ends up with Hannah Ann, although I think he, like, is being, like, Hannah Ann is almost his only option at one point. but I don't think he ends up with Hannah-Anne.

I think he either is with Madison or he's single. Yeah. So it's tough because the episode ended with them still kind of arguing. And let me tell you, I was, I got kind of emotional towards the end. And I was like kind of super sad for both of them because the intense forehead speaking. Yeah. And with Peter just like. Have you done that with somebody?

Yeah. I don't think so. I have. I think I probably have. Not for that long. Like that was like a really long time. I don't know if I've ever done. That was a really long time.

But it felt, no, it felt so intense. And Peter's like, it almost like Peter was begging at that point. Like, please, like, don't, don't leave. Like, he really, like, it just got so. I don't have been like, I did think of somebody, but that's fine because he didn't know she, no. That sex meant that much to her. Right.

He thought like, okay, she's just getting in her own head. Like, she's jealous. I understand jealousy. I didn't want, like nobody wants the other person to be sleeping with other people. Nobody. It's like,

yeah, unless you're into that, cucking, whatever. And it's not like Peter's exactly been great at reading between the lines. Like we've seen this whole season.

Like that's just, he needs things like spelled out for him. And that's just, that's just not how it went. So I don't know. It's, it left on a cliffhanger.

We didn't see the preview. It looks like it's the rose ceremony. And Matt, Madison's not there. So maybe Madison never doesn't show up. I think that this is going to go. Madison does show up. Okay.

For the rose ceremony. All right. That's like a big tease. Like, is she going to show up? Is she not going to show up? Is she not going to show up? He keeps her in Han-Anne. Okay.

Then we go fast forward to finale night. And he's getting ready to propose. And we don't know who he's going to pick. and Chris Harrison comes up and say, we just found out that Madison's gone. She left. She wants out. Yep.

And he just is left with Hannah-Anne and is like, oh, shit, I don't want to propose to Hannah-Anne. Right. And then it's just over. Like, and this is what I'm envisioning it. The screen goes black and it cuts to the live audience. Yeah. And Chris Harrison is like, well, where do we go from here?

And they show Pete, like, they filmed Pete as he, you know, ran to Madison's house. He tries his tracker down. Yeah. Peter's mom telling him to go after Madison. Oh, yeah. That is, so we, we can confirm that. I'm, I'm like, I'm pretty positive. I'm pretty positive.

It's got to be Madison. It's got to be Madison. The connection is so strong and there's such, uh, it's likely, she's the most likely to, like, run away and like step away from the show that it couldn't be, it's not going to be Victoria F. There's, there's no way. I just also, I just know, you think Peter's mom's like, go get her. Victoria F, I'm sorry, but.

And I know Peter's mom. I know. And I know Peter's mom is like, you know, very emotional and we love her for that. But I just can't see that intensity for Hannah and or Victoria F. Like it's got to be Madison. It has to be. It has to be. Unless it's somebody that we've never even thought of like the producer, which is not the case.

Right. It would have to be something like that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Madison is the one who spent the most time with Pete's family, right? Because they had that date and all that. They met.

Right. They already met the family. They already have that established relationship. And we'll see because obviously with the top two, they meet Peter's family again. So if that happens, Madison could have more time with them, but then they also meet Han. So it's crazy. It really is crazy. Now, imagine if it's like Han Ann and Victoria.

That's not. Like if Madison never comes back. Yeah. Like if Madison's like I'm leaving. And then the whole final is him trying to pick between Hannah and Victoria F. I still think he takes off running. I still think he's leaving for Madison. But if those are the two that he's picking, like picking between, it just won't be believable

at all. There's no way that. That can't be what it is. You never know. I'm just so, like we said, there's no spoilers, nothing. Which I love. I'll admit what I admitted to you guys this morning on the group chat. As we end this recap, I did look up bachelor spoilers last night because I,

I did. You think you know somebody. You think you know somebody. I wanted to know what happened. But thankfully, there's no fucking spoilers anywhere. So I couldn't figure out what happened. That's the karma you deserve for going and looking. I'm actually happy.

Yeah. Trent, this is something we discussed with Caitlin. What do you think of this? ABC potentially paying off reality Steve to no longer spoil the show so that people get back into the bachelor not like not knowing. Spoilers. I like it. ABC just writing it like a flat check.

If they're not, if they're not doing that, they should. They should. I feel like that's what's happening because this man knows everything. And what did you say? What was the date on his last blog post? January something. Like we are nine. We're almost to March.

We're almost in March. If I, if I'm reality, Steve, I take that deal 100 times. Like you get to spoil like the whole season except for the end. That's a good idea. That's a good theory, actually. Who knows? Possible.

It's possible. I am ready for a woman tell all though. Oh boy. Women tell all is just going to be ridiculous. We've had quite a season of girls, so it'll be. Yeah, I can't even imagine the amount of screaming slash crying there's going to be. Stay tuned. All right, that wraps up today's episode. We hope you had a fantastic week and we hope you have a great weekend.

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